The best part of Jiddu’s talk is that it is very Cartesian and Spinozan, if I may say so. Follows through definition, axiom and logic!!! Can’t go wrong.
Very informative answer. Thought is human beings unique ability to solve problems in the outer world creatively - science, math, arts. However JK is pointing out it doesn’t work well in the domain of inner world. It’s best to be attentive with our memories and emotions (and that attention dissipates them - this he encourages us to try out for ourselves) and not act/react to them with thoughts as that causes conflict and disorder.
It is so simple and clear yet I always do the opposite, i.e. whenever I feel anger I condemn it and don't want to feel it. I struggle and fight it and try all kinds of ways of thought to battle the anger inside me so I can maybe end it (by rationalising it, justifying it, etc.). But this never works and only makes me more hopeless! Like Krishnamurti says: thought cannot change what you are. I wonder why we all have this same mechanism that is not working? (fighting negative feelings, creating conflict in ourselfs).
U dont have to fight it,yust know that is not u,it is inside u,it is part of u,but it is not u,it will come and then it will go,if u stay as yourself it will go,if u look at it u will know what it is,u are the weakness of it,when u see it it looses its power over,everything that comes to u cannot be u,ca sif it comes it must go,and u never come and never go.
Anche a me e' successa lo stesso ...si apre un mondo nuovo tutto da esplorare ...un terreno sconosciuto che mi libera dal conosciuto ...preziosi messaggi che arricchiscono ogni momento della mia giornata ....grazieeeeee ❤
We are infinite beings who came from light . Everything our ancestors ate was born of the light of the sun . We are Eternal light beings who came from something truly powerful . The power lies before us and in us and beyond us . Blessed be the ones born of light eternal
I think the anger will end, when we realise that we are anger, because usually we tend to fight anger as if it's something different from us, you can't fight your own self, have you seen anyone cutting own thier own limbs ? No, right ? When we understand that anger is not the external enemy but we are the anger itself , when we fight with anger, we are basically cutting off our own limbs, then the anger will completely end once and for all
I am lonely and I find myself trying to stay active to avoid that sensation... I would like to be able to observe the root of this loneliness and understand it
If I am aware of my disorder, causing conflict, and remain with my disorder without any attempt to bring order, then order will happen on its own. Only then I can understand my relationship with the cosmos.
What everyone are doing is adding numbers like 12345.....infinite....means adding more memory to get another life means rebirth and birth is always suffering. So in order get rid of this suffering one must stop adding and start subtraction of numbers which are in simple terms our memory...this happens through Supra mundane Jhana which us cessation of mind and this can be attained through vipassana...after subtraction of all numbers is what you experience in nibbana which is beyond mind and matter....this can done only in human birth or higher so never waste human life chasing useless things
If you are angry and you trying to suppress it using thought which means you are being apart from it, analysing it and trying to control it. But what K is saying is If you are angry which is a Fact. So you dont try to control it you just be it and once you be it, Then you become the fact so you dont try to control it you just be it(the anger) once you be it you are Incharge of it if you want to become more angry or suppress it you are Incharge of it. Fact cannot be changed and if it cannot be changed then there is no opposite side of it hence no duality so no conflict which means Order. So If i am the Order(The fact) which means I am the Cosmos (The Order).
The cosmos includes yourself. I didnt know kosmos means 'order'. Then that means there is no such thing as a dissorder. Its an illusion in your own mind, because all creation is perfect.
Dear Official Channel, Why is it the auto generated subtitles are full of errors, can we do something about it ! its good not to give such errors in the video !
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Yes sirs, one cant be bound on minor hiccups, your message is clear and feel unbound gratitude for the service you render on the greatest of teachings of K. walking together !
When there's order , there's no " i " . In other words , the statement " i'm in order ... " is still functioning in knowledge and duality . " i am " is still still trying to imitate or simulate or create the illusion that it is having some kind of relation with the cosmos , which is a delusion and disorder .
When you're in order to cosmos then your no longer separate from it . And the sense of present me is false when your in order there is no question of ingnoring . Sorry for poor English
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"What you are can never be changed by thought"... love it! Thanks for sharing.
I would hug him with tears if he's alive . He opened the world in front of me which I had not observed or watched before.
the moment you stop the dream of becoming good or bad you awake from the dream of life, the dream of life is the play of becoming, then there's order.
The best part of Jiddu’s talk is that it is very Cartesian and Spinozan, if I may say so. Follows through definition, axiom and logic!!! Can’t go wrong.
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What a treasure that humanity has privilege to see. Thank you.
Must be shared to all social media. Thank you for uploading.
The master will appear when the student is ready.
Blessings 👐 💚
The fact has no opposite! Thank you 🙏🏽 so much for all this wonderful work together
Very informative answer. Thought is human beings unique ability to solve problems in the outer world creatively - science, math, arts. However JK is pointing out it doesn’t work well in the domain of inner world. It’s best to be attentive with our memories and emotions (and that attention dissipates them - this he encourages us to try out for ourselves) and not act/react to them with thoughts as that causes conflict and disorder.
So profound and timeless."K's Silences were very rich...his silent spots were anticipatory
How beautifully explained!!!
Thank you guys for spreading this gentleman'S teachings🙏🙏🙏😌
I could see supreme order speaking out
It is so simple and clear yet I always do the opposite, i.e. whenever I feel anger I condemn it and don't want to feel it.
I struggle and fight it and try all kinds of ways of thought to battle the anger inside me so I can maybe end it (by rationalising it, justifying it, etc.). But this never works and only makes me more hopeless! Like Krishnamurti says: thought cannot change what you are. I wonder why we all have this same mechanism that is not working? (fighting negative feelings, creating conflict in ourselfs).
Why dont you act, as K says it !
U dont have to fight it,yust know that is not u,it is inside u,it is part of u,but it is not u,it will come and then it will go,if u stay as yourself it will go,if u look at it u will know what it is,u are the weakness of it,when u see it it looses its power over,everything that comes to u cannot be u,ca sif it comes it must go,and u never come and never go.
Answer it your self why is it like that, repetition? Imitation? Conformity? Habit?
what I do is try to look at the anger and the condemnation both
@@henryreese7236 that's it! keep observing all the movements and the roots of every movement, don't make a conclussion. :)
Love you! Thank you so much! I am so so grateful for the channel officials to keep his speech preserved till today ❤️
Wow what a beautiful answer ❤
Thank you for this excellent video. So grateful to K, this noble human being.
Anche a me e' successa lo stesso ...si apre un mondo nuovo tutto da esplorare ...un terreno sconosciuto che mi libera dal conosciuto ...preziosi messaggi che arricchiscono ogni momento della mia giornata ....grazieeeeee ❤
He has explained everything in this single video ❤
What an amazing video, worth watching ... thank you. The clarifies the observer is observed better ....
He seems to be a philosopher of the highest order
We are infinite beings who came from light . Everything our ancestors ate was born of the light of the sun . We are Eternal light beings who came from something truly powerful . The power lies before us and in us and beyond us . Blessed be the ones born of light eternal
I think the anger will end, when we realise that we are anger, because usually we tend to fight anger as if it's something different from us, you can't fight your own self, have you seen anyone cutting own thier own limbs ? No, right ? When we understand that anger is not the external enemy but we are the anger itself , when we fight with anger, we are basically cutting off our own limbs, then the anger will completely end once and for all
I am lonely and I find myself trying to stay active to avoid that sensation... I would like to be able to observe the root of this loneliness and understand it
his true holiness, God has blessed hes soul
Thanks for this treasure❤️💞
Accept what is true and be it.
🌹🙏Thanks to U and gratitude TO shree KRISHNAMURTI 🙏🌹
I'm on course to make such man with his truth happy. Thanks to them xxxx
He is ultimate
A great teacher
If I am aware of my disorder, causing conflict, and remain with my disorder without any attempt to bring order, then order will happen on its own. Only then I can understand my relationship with the cosmos.
Cprofound eye opening revolutionary thanks
🌷🙏Thanks and gratitude 🙏🌷
Thank you so much!!!!
Thank you
8:44 one can feel the laughter within him when he said that!
'I' is the wick that needs to be set on fire to light the candle, to lift the sun. Man is his own star.
If you are the fact then there is no duality therefore no conflict which means Order. So I am the Cosmos. Entire video in a nutshell.
Thank you so much.
So precious
Love you JK
Can you please translate such precious speeches in urdu or hindi
I am beyond relation, beyond myself, beyond cosmos, beyond memory and ultimately beyond WHAT.
Beyond nothing 🙏
@@SL3315 nothing becoming everything,
Development of mind is required for you to understand. Learn vipassana.
Creative expression
I’m not the memory I’m awareness going to the different area of the memory 😊
Give it - all your energy he says.... How?......
All tangible matter are, of Time~ Timing Elements
Forgive me, but I've been listening to some of these videos and it's amazing how many people keep coughing in his audience.
Belissimo!
Awesome
What everyone are doing is adding numbers like 12345.....infinite....means adding more memory to get another life means rebirth and birth is always suffering. So in order get rid of this suffering one must stop adding and start subtraction of numbers which are in simple terms our memory...this happens through Supra mundane Jhana which us cessation of mind and this can be attained through vipassana...after subtraction of all numbers is what you experience in nibbana which is beyond mind and matter....this can done only in human birth or higher so never waste human life chasing useless things
The self is the cosmos.
Chandru Alpha you dont understood then
@@monaimziani608 then what is self according to J.K..pls rpl..I donot understand clearly
If you are angry and you trying to suppress it using thought which means you are being apart from it, analysing it and trying to control it. But what K is saying is If you are angry which is a Fact. So you dont try to control it you just be it and once you be it, Then you become the fact so you dont try to control it you just be it(the anger) once you be it you are Incharge of it if you want to become more angry or suppress it you are Incharge of it. Fact cannot be changed and if it cannot be changed then there is no opposite side of it hence no duality so no conflict which means Order. So If i am the Order(The fact) which means I am the Cosmos (The Order).
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His words I feel myself
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My sweetheart.
Cosmos vs. Chaos
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The cosmos includes yourself. I didnt know kosmos means 'order'. Then that means there is no such thing as a dissorder. Its an illusion in your own mind, because all creation is perfect.
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Dear Official Channel, Why is it the auto generated subtitles are full of errors, can we do something about it ! its good not to give such errors in the video !
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Yes sirs, one cant be bound on minor hiccups, your message is clear and feel unbound gratitude for the service you render on the greatest of teachings of K. walking together !
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Hallo filósofos!!
Krishna Krishna..
Consciousnes is not a thing ... hihihi....be free ....
When I'm in order I don't get any questions in mind but does it reveal the relationship with cosmos.. May be still I can be ignorant as ever..????
It's an interesting question. I think there are several questions like this which really have no satisfactory answer.
When there's order , there's no " i " . In other words , the statement " i'm in order ... " is still functioning in knowledge and duality . " i am " is still still trying to imitate or simulate or create the illusion that it is having some kind of relation with the cosmos , which is a delusion and disorder .
When you're in order to cosmos then your no longer separate from it . And the sense of present me is false when your in order there is no question of ingnoring . Sorry for poor English
Where is the question of relatioship when the self has ceased??!!
I bet he met a lot of stupid people his whole life so he keeps doubting if the audience understand him
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