Really appreciate the video. I would really like to see a more in depth video of exactly how different quality and rated javelins actually translate to distance for different skill leveled throwers
In general, the flex (bending ability) or stiffness of the shaft and the shape of the point are the biggest things that vary. The old meter ratings today are another way to judge flex, others use a flex number where the lower the number, the stiffer the shaft. Usually, less skilled or beginning throwers should use a softer, more flexible javelin to avoid stress on their elbow or shoulder from poorly aligned throws. As the athlete gains skill, a less flexible javelin can be used, and if that athlete has skill to throw a javelin with little vibration, you might consider looking into a javelin with a more blunt point than sharp. At about 50m/women, 70m/men a blunt point javelin can be an advantage over a sharp point by keeping the point "up" longer- the javelin does not turn over to the ground quite as fast. This can be a meter or 2 difference on a throw where all other aspects are equal. You will notice national level athletes: 55m+/women, 75m+/men almost exclusively throw blunt point javelins with a very little flex. The design of the javelin- shaft taper and balance point- can have very little variance in today's javelins. If you are skilled at "flying" the javelin ( throwing power directly along the axis of the spear) like Rohler, you can throw a softer flex javelin and still get good results, as there is little vibration to damper. That can save money, if that is an issue- stiff javelins do not always equal long throws.
@@Gorski213 I keep hearing that stiffer javelins fly further because less vibration means more aerodynamic, but I have yet to see a video of someone actually comparing the two with the same throw.
@@Dah_J Other than shooting them out of a javelin gun, you can't get exactly the same power and flight angles from a human to compare the two. Yes, stiffer will reduce vibration, but so does throwing with skill so your release does not produce vibration. It's pretty normal to see athletes throwing stiff javelins they do not have the power or skill to use to advantage: 65m guys should not be using a carbon implement, but you see it often and they gain nothing from using such an unforgiving spear. There is something to be said for the feel of the release: some athletes have told me that carbons feel "dead"....they don't "jump" out of your hand on a good throw like they feel with a steel or aluminum javelin. At the end, the selection of the javelin is up to the athlete, but knowing some basics can narrow the selection process to a few good options.
@@Gorski213 thanks for the insight. I’m only throwing 50 meters right now so it’s probably not worth investing in a higher flex until I’m throwing 60-70. Does that sound right
@@Dah_J I think that's a good plan. Once you are regularly throwing 64-65m, then look at a 6-8 flex javelin with a blunt point. That can serve you well until the next upgrade in distance thrown. Good luck!
Sandvik pointed style rather than Nemeth blunted ends. Tried both and just found the feel and flight of the Sandvik much smoother. About 2m further throwing with the Sandviks as well.
My son is in middle school and we live in Florida. He is throwing 600g how do I know what to buy, because I see some ask something like 50m and 40m along with 50 and 40RT.
The rating 50m or 40m are the distance the Javelin is balanced for so if your son is throwing over 40m then go with the 50m. Any Javelin marked RT = Rubber Tip, certain state rules designate the type of Javelin allowed for competition.
No, proper weight would not be achieved with 100% Carbon. Carbon Fiber is used to add light weight strength, rigidity, and dampening to the steel or aluminum javelin. To add those factors to steel or aluminum without using light weight materials like Carbon Fiber would also change the weight (on the heavy side) and measurements.
@vsathletics1883 I make foam tipped javelin and other weapons to fight with at larp battles, and full length carbon fiber cores are hard to come by for long weapons like pole arms, spears, etc. Just always keeping my eye out for possible cores.
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Really appreciate the video. I would really like to see a more in depth video of exactly how different quality and rated javelins actually translate to distance for different skill leveled throwers
In general, the flex (bending ability) or stiffness of the shaft and the shape of the point are the biggest things that vary. The old meter ratings today are another way to judge flex, others use a flex number where the lower the number, the stiffer the shaft. Usually, less skilled or beginning throwers should use a softer, more flexible javelin to avoid stress on their elbow or shoulder from poorly aligned throws. As the athlete gains skill, a less flexible javelin can be used, and if that athlete has skill to throw a javelin with little vibration, you might consider looking into a javelin with a more blunt point than sharp. At about 50m/women, 70m/men a blunt point javelin can be an advantage over a sharp point by keeping the point "up" longer- the javelin does not turn over to the ground quite as fast. This can be a meter or 2 difference on a throw where all other aspects are equal. You will notice national level athletes: 55m+/women, 75m+/men almost exclusively throw blunt point javelins with a very little flex. The design of the javelin- shaft taper and balance point- can have very little variance in today's javelins. If you are skilled at "flying" the javelin ( throwing power directly along the axis of the spear) like Rohler, you can throw a softer flex javelin and still get good results, as there is little vibration to damper. That can save money, if that is an issue- stiff javelins do not always equal long throws.
@@Gorski213 I keep hearing that stiffer javelins fly further because less vibration means more aerodynamic, but I have yet to see a video of someone actually comparing the two with the same throw.
@@Dah_J Other than shooting them out of a javelin gun, you can't get exactly the same power and flight angles from a human to compare the two. Yes, stiffer will reduce vibration, but so does throwing with skill so your release does not produce vibration. It's pretty normal to see athletes throwing stiff javelins they do not have the power or skill to use to advantage: 65m guys should not be using a carbon implement, but you see it often and they gain nothing from using such an unforgiving spear. There is something to be said for the feel of the release: some athletes have told me that carbons feel "dead"....they don't "jump" out of your hand on a good throw like they feel with a steel or aluminum javelin. At the end, the selection of the javelin is up to the athlete, but knowing some basics can narrow the selection process to a few good options.
@@Gorski213 thanks for the insight. I’m only throwing 50 meters right now so it’s probably not worth investing in a higher flex until I’m throwing 60-70. Does that sound right
@@Dah_J I think that's a good plan. Once you are regularly throwing 64-65m, then look at a 6-8 flex javelin with a blunt point. That can serve you well until the next upgrade in distance thrown. Good luck!
I always loved the javelin with the sharper points than the more thicker metal points, as THEY were more bulkier around the tip.
I always loved the SANDVIK BRAND in javelins
Sandvik pointed style rather than Nemeth blunted ends. Tried both and just found the feel and flight of the Sandvik much smoother. About 2m further throwing with the Sandviks as well.
My favourite as a youngster was the SANDVIK DIANA IN 600GRAMS, AND IN 800GRAMS THE SANDVIK SUPER ELITE AND CHAMPION N 100
Anyone else go to their online shop and when looking for javelins none were popping up?
Link in description works www.vsathletics.com/store/Javelin/ and all Javelins in stock are show and viewable online.
Hello sir
This is Ranjith from India 🇮🇳..my boy 12 years old ..pls suggest which is perfect one for him..
I love the javelin it's a shame long New York don't have anymore competition for it
My son is in middle school and we live in Florida. He is throwing 600g how do I know what to buy, because I see some ask something like 50m and 40m along with 50 and 40RT.
The rating 50m or 40m are the distance the Javelin is balanced for so if your son is throwing over 40m then go with the 50m. Any Javelin marked RT = Rubber Tip, certain state rules designate the type of Javelin allowed for competition.
What's the difference between practice javelin and competition?? Why don't I wanna practice with what I compete with?
Hi sir,what's does it mean "800g 90mts javelin & 800g 85mts javelin"?
Are there any shafts that are 100% carbon fiber with no metal?
No, proper weight would not be achieved with 100% Carbon. Carbon Fiber is used to add light weight strength, rigidity, and dampening to the steel or aluminum javelin. To add those factors to steel or aluminum without using light weight materials like Carbon Fiber would also change the weight (on the heavy side) and measurements.
@vsathletics1883 I make foam tipped javelin and other weapons to fight with at larp battles, and full length carbon fiber cores are hard to come by for long weapons like pole arms, spears, etc. Just always keeping my eye out for possible cores.