Whitewashing 101: How To Rewrite Black History

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  • It's Black History Month, so it's about time we talked about the recuperation of Black radicals like Dr. King and Nelson Mandela. Everyone and their mother likes to claim MLK as their own, and use his words as a rhetorical weapon, but what did he actually believe? This one could have been so much longer, but I guess that just leaves room for a part two in the future. Hope you enjoy!
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  • @GTAVictor9128
    @GTAVictor9128 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10720

    Fun fact: The one and only time when the NRA actually advocated for stricter gun control was when the Black Panthers expressed their second amendment rights.

    • @revolutionaryape7568
      @revolutionaryape7568 2 ปีที่แล้ว +456

      Lmao
      Nice observation

    • @curocurovic6675
      @curocurovic6675 2 ปีที่แล้ว +278

      for the same reason South Africa did give up on their atomic bombs

    • @baraghy3627
      @baraghy3627 2 ปีที่แล้ว +148

      @@curocurovic6675 can you elaborate please sounds interesting

    • @NRobbi42
      @NRobbi42 2 ปีที่แล้ว +708

      @Leila Namer South Africa denuclearized only because they were afraid of black people getting nukes.

    • @curocurovic6675
      @curocurovic6675 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @Canuk Kun is anything i did write wrong ?
      if nukes have been kept in SA ..how do you think would that story end?
      what assumptions have been made and what do we see today in SA?
      same for europe ...to keep the offensive capabilities some nations of europe today have despite the intended demographic changes would not only be problematic ..it would be a crime

  • @BlindMellowJellyInc
    @BlindMellowJellyInc 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1626

    "If you're studying history and you are never ashamed, you're studying propaganda."

    • @chronikhiles
      @chronikhiles 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +36

      Sounds like a pretty extreme statement really.

    • @laodes
      @laodes 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +33

      Some of us lives in countries that are comprised entirely by a historical underclass, no colonies ever, no self governance, oppressed by neigbouring nations and empires. The bad stuff only started happening after independence, when we fully adopted a neoliberal economic model

    • @laodes
      @laodes 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      @@chronikhiles it is a sweeping generalization and thus quite inaccurate

    • @pallingtontheshrike6374
      @pallingtontheshrike6374 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@laodescountries that are the underclass inevitably have compradors, though? like, of course the magnitude won’t even approach that of nations with an imperial period, but you’re sure there was never a revolutionary group stalled or stopped by compradors?

    • @justanotherweirdo11
      @justanotherweirdo11 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +40

      ​@@laodes Fair enough. But if you're from a country that did have colonies, commit war crimes, oppress their citizens/residents/indigenous people, and you don't feel ashamed when learning about the history of your country then there is a problem.

  • @alex_blue5802
    @alex_blue5802 ปีที่แล้ว +699

    It really opened my eyes reading King's writing as an adult. Every major city has a street named after him but we're never taught about his real politics.

    • @edwinamendelssohn5129
      @edwinamendelssohn5129 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Which are? Certainly not the hatred being spewed today

    • @alex_blue5802
      @alex_blue5802 ปีที่แล้ว +101

      @@edwinamendelssohn5129 opposing the war in vietnam and instead advocating to use the money to eradicate poverty within the US. Advocating for economic justice as well as equal rights. Wanting rich countries to give money to poor countries.

    • @edwinamendelssohn5129
      @edwinamendelssohn5129 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@alex_blue5802 always the money

    • @omegaduck2955
      @omegaduck2955 ปีที่แล้ว +57

      @@edwinamendelssohn5129 what else would it be then. Please inform me

    • @Iloveswedes
      @Iloveswedes ปีที่แล้ว +2

      They'd rather black people live on a street named after him than to make sure black people own a house on any street.

  • @ilduce5874
    @ilduce5874 ปีที่แล้ว +72

    The original Black Panthers accomplished a lot in their lives including the first successful national campaign to raise awareness of sickle cell anemia; Free People’s Medical Clinics (Oakland’s Harriet Tubman clinic is still open); the first free breakfast program for school children; and much more.

  • @grapentine739
    @grapentine739 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1850

    Could you imagine being black in the 60s and saying the things MLK was saying? MLK was one incredibly brave dude.

    • @Ayyeeeooo
      @Ayyeeeooo ปีที่แล้ว +167

      Now imagine being Malcolm & Farrakhan

    • @Astarrrrr
      @Astarrrrr ปีที่แล้ว

      And they paid the price for it. Everyone knows the government killed mlk, Malcom x, and Fred Hampton.

    • @ryanwalters1649
      @ryanwalters1649 ปีที่แล้ว +113

      He was beyond brave. He gave his life to say the things he said. We haven't seen anyone like him since.

    • @dianalord5825
      @dianalord5825 ปีที่แล้ว +66

      Malcolm was braver, MLK came around years AFTER the Drean speech.

    • @FASBLAQUE
      @FASBLAQUE ปีที่แล้ว +3

      We have Chris Hedges today. They're mad at him too.

  • @taylorswan8587
    @taylorswan8587 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2505

    I still think the most wild example of white washing from the civil rights movement is Rosa Parks. The fact that she’s portrayed culturally as just “an individual who decided out of nowhere one day that she would take a stand and then never did anything else ever again” is beyond satire

    • @Nemo12417
      @Nemo12417 2 ปีที่แล้ว +46

      She wasn't the first to refuse to give up her seat, but was chosen as a test case by the civil rights movement specifically because they knew their enemies would ruthlessly search for any reason to discredit the face of their boycott, even digging up irrelevant dirt, kinda like how Andy Ngo's favorite hobby whenever a black person gets shot is to dig up something from years ago that has nothing to do with the situation.

    • @ErutaniaRose
      @ErutaniaRose 2 ปีที่แล้ว +298

      @@Nemo12417 Yup. They needed the “purist” person to idolize. I’m glad that people recognize and know/acknowledge she wasn’t the first. And, while I hate that they had to choose someone based on the morality of others, I understand why they did it.

    • @christopherjohnson9167
      @christopherjohnson9167 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      how tf is she “white washed” yall are awash in your own wack ass leftist ideology.

    • @mechanomics2649
      @mechanomics2649 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      @@christopherjohnson9167 Why are you going throughout the comments seething? lmao

    • @christopherjohnson9167
      @christopherjohnson9167 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@mechanomics2649 because Im a righteous internet warrior fighting on the front line of the information wars. Try to catch up.

  • @KylarEllis32
    @KylarEllis32 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +82

    When MLK and Malcolm X started to get on the same page, it was to much for the US government. That's a real trend for the Government. You can see it throughout history. Challenge the status quo and things never ended well.

    • @rafa.frqnz1188
      @rafa.frqnz1188 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      On top of Cesar Chavez was supposed to meet MLK within that time frame as well

    • @andrejamison2723
      @andrejamison2723 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They were never on the same page. King was a socialist

    • @tamiausten873
      @tamiausten873 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I just watched the first season of Justice league as an adult. I realize that the US government has gone to great lengths to look good in every story even in the minds of kids. I'm Nigerian and I watched a lot of Hollywood (still do but I know a little better). They say the victor writes history, the US has been the one with the pen. Even with the Nazis, I've started to wonder, how much better were the Allied Forces ? I know how Africa was shared like cookies for Europe except for Germany.

  • @moe3235
    @moe3235 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +228

    When the øppressørs are writing the books, evil is good and good is evil

  • @rept7
    @rept7 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2898

    I feel like every week, I'm learning more about how Reagan was terrible.

    • @carrieullrich5059
      @carrieullrich5059 2 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      He destroyed lots of things that protected citizens. Insane Asylums used to be funded by the federal government, now we no longer have permanent care for people that need it most.

    • @cf5397
      @cf5397 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@carrieullrich5059 i agree we need better facilities but the 'insane asylums' of that day used pseudoscience and were on a whole detrimental to the health of those placed in their care.

    • @thowl7065
      @thowl7065 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@cf5397 Reagan closed those in the 80s and they were institutions, not insane asylums. I think you are thinking about way further back in time. There were some bad ones, but most of them weren't a detriment to people's health. Now those people are in jails, prisons and homeless. That isn't better.

    • @wrestlinganime4life288
      @wrestlinganime4life288 2 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      "Jesus was black, Ronald Reagan was the devil and the government is lying about 9/11"
      -Huey Freeman

    • @Matt_Fields_29
      @Matt_Fields_29 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@cf5397 Reagan's solution was clearly a failure. And that's because Reagan did not actually give a shit about the abuses in state mental hospitals (he didn't even really pretend to, that wasn't a thing the public talked about then).

  • @danceamasta424
    @danceamasta424 2 ปีที่แล้ว +990

    I was literally taught in middle school (2013) that the Black Panthers were the black equivalent to the KKK, in my US history class at my small private Catholic school…. absolutely crazy

    • @saintbrush4398
      @saintbrush4398 ปีที่แล้ว

      Pretty much the same. Just a violent cult of black nationalists when they were really fighting for liberation.

    • @chompythebeast
      @chompythebeast ปีที่แล้ว +239

      Trusting Catholics with social education is like trusting fascists with the same. Mostly because zealous Catholic politics are largely indistinguishable from fascism

    • @JtotheUdith
      @JtotheUdith ปีที่แล้ว +14

      wow

    • @tylerlormand5644
      @tylerlormand5644 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      ya school lied

    • @HercuLync
      @HercuLync ปีที่แล้ว +36

      The KKK at it's peak also did social out reach. Many violent gangs have started doing community projects in the areas they "control" to boost their reputation. The Black Panthers were militant and violent. They did do good things and were not at all the Black KKK, but they weren't saints either.

  • @pangean2986
    @pangean2986 ปีที่แล้ว +430

    I didn't know we were taught a false narrative about Nelson Mandela, mostly because I was never taught about him at all in school

    • @jjaa_joyjoyartist
      @jjaa_joyjoyartist ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Same, when he started the segment I was like "checks out" and then had to go "ohhh..." later on

    • @HercuLync
      @HercuLync ปีที่แล้ว +15

      This guys version of history is skewed to fit his own narrative. I find it amusing that he is pointing the finger at other that do the same.

    • @zilesis1
      @zilesis1 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      considering there's a tem called the "Mandela efect" which literally stands for people collectively believing something that isn't actually true, i'm not surprised
      (yes i know the term comes from the fact many people believed he dies in prison in the 80s and not the misrepresentation of his political career, but it's still broadly applicable)

    • @HercuLync
      @HercuLync ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@natbrownizzle1387 The economy of the South was absolutely built on the backs of slaves and had a hard time recovering after slavery ended for a variety of reasons. The northern states with the exception of Vermont, were all slave states when the country was founded and Vermont only escaped that distinction by a few years. The northern colonies also relied heavily on slaves until industrialization which just happened to be starting about the same time our country was being founded. The groundwork for capitalism in the US was definitely build on slavery and shortly after slavery was abolished capitalism failed and it took socialist policies to repair it. These policies often excluded aid for blacks. MLK was not wrong about that. A much as he spoke out against capitalism and in favor of socialist reforms, he also recognized the benefits of capitalism. He described himself as socialist leaning. He said that slavery and other policies had created an unjust wealth gap and that those that had were actively working to prevent those that have not from gaining. This is still true. He wanted government intervention and socialism not to eliminate capitalism, but to ensure that it remained a just system that provided opportunities for all people. Most of his economic ideas were designed to reset a corrupted capitalist system and prevent that corruption from returning. His ideas were not socialism like USSR, China, or even Cuba. He was a pacifist to his core and would never have promoted ideas that he felt would lead to killing fields. He was advocating socialist policies to correct a system that was and is failing an increasing large portion of the population and work to make sure that it doesn't fail again. I have trouble finding any area where King was wrong in his message. He was an extremely intelligent and moral man and is rightly remembered and honored as such.
      There is nothing wrong with King's I have a dream speech. There are people that are abusing it and pretending the dream has been realized (it has not) and there are those that want to down play it so they can pretend King was a leader that was on par and agreed with leaders like the Black Panthers or Malcom X. He was greater than them and he did disagreed with their methods. Anti-racist is a buzz term most often used by people racists and people that want to pretend they care. The same people that donated millions to the BLM Organization which was known by people paying attention before 2020 to be run by morons. Their 2019 campaign was to try and stop a rich well known rapper from being deported back to his home country of England for crimes he actually committed while trying to build his street cred rather than speaking out against the trend of criminal records being seen as a positive.

    • @resphantom
      @resphantom ปีที่แล้ว

      @@HercuLync I can tell you now, the whole movement in South Africa made sense. It's best to provide everyone with equal opportunity, however the current ruling party was in ruling for almost 30 years. Infrastructure only went backwards, due to extreme amount of corruption and the fact that no-one in the ruling party actually seem to care about the people of their country. People or mostly older folk seems to be stuck voting for the same party that keeps stealing their money because of the whole Mandela legacy. We are at the brink of total blackout, up to 82 murders a day, some of the most holiest of roads and ancient degrading government systems that's still stuck on paper trail even though we have/had some of the best Software Engineers in the world. The country has been bleeding engineers and educated skilled workers. Generally we are fucked.
      Eskom the "public" power provider effectively shuts down any request for private energy generation, even though the country's economy needs it. The Government wants to set up a "state of disaster" even though they caused the problem in the first place, was warned about the power problem since the year 2000, just so they can quickly twist the rules and steal more money. Which is dumb since the problem could've and can still easily be fixed by opening up power generation to the private sector. Oh yeah, did I mention the military drills with Russia and China...I guess I didn't, did I? Because of that, USA effectively sanctioned this country by blocking off Uranium rod deals, which means the only Nuclear power station that produce a reasonable chunk of power will eventually run out of uranium by end of this year.
      And now they want to implement National Health Insurance by 2025, with what money or system? Governments should not run businesses, they should only govern and regulate various sectors and incentivize growth where needed. Socialism doesn't work, just like Communism and Capitalism. I effectively saw all 3 systems in my country fail at once. It's a mess.
      Capitalism's flaw - Greed
      Socialism's flaw - Sloth
      Communism's flaw - Oppression

  • @anitanielsen1061
    @anitanielsen1061 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    “Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere...whatever affects one directly, affects all indirectly.”

  • @DarknessUnresolved
    @DarknessUnresolved 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1294

    Since you referenced both The Black Panthers and Reagan here, it should also be noted that in 1967, [then CA governor] Reagan passed the Mulford Act, prohibiting the public carrying of guns. This was a DIRECT response to the Panthers conducting neighborhood watch patrols (cop watching) to ensure police gestapo didn't harm Black people. It was literally the only time in recorded history that conservatives actually supported gun control!
    And of course this was a selectively enforced law, whose sole aim was to disarm Black people in CA. This should be common history, but most folks probably know nothing about it.

    • @4knewt505
      @4knewt505 2 ปีที่แล้ว +86

      I knew it happened but didn't know it was under Reagan 😱 history is slowly unfolding the true nature of the president that so many adored

    • @DarknessUnresolved
      @DarknessUnresolved 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@4knewt505 All that mystique attached to Reagan is completely false. Thing is, as much of an absolute bastard as he was, Reagan would be considered a moderate by the standards of today's GOP.

    • @DarknessUnresolved
      @DarknessUnresolved 2 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      @@james_chatman Facts are FACTS. It's really not a "liberal" thing.

    • @Matt_Fields_29
      @Matt_Fields_29 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@james_chatman the NRA became uber right wing in the late 70s. They have made zero efforts to attract minorities. Idk where this alternate history you got here came from.

    • @Acidfunkish
      @Acidfunkish 2 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      @@Matt_Fields_29 This. The NRA's origins were much more moderate. That changed long before most of us were even born.
      And, now, they almost seem ashamed of their past. And their founder would absolutely be ashamed of its modern state.

  • @Fenthule
    @Fenthule 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3774

    *sips coffee* Ahh yes. Another Friday, another chance for Second Thought to solidify my disdain for society. Excellent.

    • @Aunt_Aoife
      @Aunt_Aoife 2 ปีที่แล้ว +174

      I too like to start my weekend with some depressing clarity and a cup of hot bean water

    • @alexphillips1797
      @alexphillips1797 2 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      I get a latte🙂

    • @axch2983
      @axch2983 2 ปีที่แล้ว +47

      tea here ...
      chai

    • @Smithius
      @Smithius 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      I've got a Macchiato over here

    • @theaccountable
      @theaccountable 2 ปีที่แล้ว +42

      Had my French roast and pre roll to start my daily observations of a falling empire.

  • @cosmicdib4823
    @cosmicdib4823 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    The way MLK speaks bro... He says such strong and forward-thinking words in this soothing yet strong voice.

  • @meatrackgames
    @meatrackgames 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

    i was born in south africa, lived there for 14 years (as a white afrikaner).
    mandela was absolutely labeled a terrorist by the nationalist press. my grandfather would not shut up about him being a "terrorist". he believed the propaganda hook, line and sinker.

    • @HakimButSouthAfrican
      @HakimButSouthAfrican 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I'm south african (black) and the "mandela is a terrorist" talking point is the easiest way to spot a racist
      hope you're doing well

    • @BigWhitePig
      @BigWhitePig 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Mandela was a Sellout

  • @rellie_90
    @rellie_90 2 ปีที่แล้ว +954

    The Civil Rights Movement was a very *volatile, tense, death-ridden, anxiety filled and uncertain* time. And the way it’s taught in school will have you believe it lasted maybe 4 years. That movement started in the late 50s up to the mid-70s. That’s a long ass time to sustain a movement until the government effectively squashed any semblance of equality or equity to produce a real Democracy. They would rather spend massive amounts of tax dollars on that, instead of actually funding communities more effectively. How Stupid! 😒

    • @ah_libra
      @ah_libra 2 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      @Rellie I agree, although I'd argue that it started way before the 50's. Crash Course Black History is where I learned that the 50's is where it really gained momentum (in response to the racist backlash of Brown v. Board of Education).

    • @nopenope1186
      @nopenope1186 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @Mateo Hodge redlining was way before Nixon

    • @nopenope1186
      @nopenope1186 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @Mateo Hodge nah most of it was from the 1930s

    • @meyou3772
      @meyou3772 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Many jobs were created with that tax money. They had to solidity the middle class and servant class. Just my opi

    • @nonconformist9930
      @nonconformist9930 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      i would argue the fight started on 7/4/1776 when slavery was enshrined into the constitution in the fugative slave clause at the founding of our nation. (fun fact, the first person to use the fugative slave act was washington himself to reclaim "property" in the form of a blk female slave) and continues to this day as we are still not equal or free. racist hemogeny is ingrained into our national dna. it will always be a problem so long as racists can hide behind the first amendment to continue to push racist ideology. we cant legislate away racism. the struggle isnt over 400 unarmed blk folk murdered by police last year ..... the struggle aint over

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    @tayzonday 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1000

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      @SecondThought  2 ปีที่แล้ว +176

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      @goblinbabe 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

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      @user-ij5sw7fd6x 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

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  • @nemoquodeus8119
    @nemoquodeus8119 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    "True compassion is more than flipping a coin to a beggar; it comes to see that an edifice which produces beggars needs restructuring."
    - MLK, 1968, "Beyond Vietnam" speech

  • @Simzoid
    @Simzoid 2 ปีที่แล้ว +118

    As a British history student, I find it bizarre how one of the most iconic figures in American history is so poorly understood. Great video and fantastic analysis.

    • @Tarnz93
      @Tarnz93 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      As a Black British person. I also find it crazy that the only person we hear about re: black British history us Mary Seacole. Our British black history doesn't include the brixton riots, Bristol bus boycotts, history of nottinghill carnival etc

    • @LonDanDoc
      @LonDanDoc 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's cos the British establishment never wants to look at itself. So it just points at the Americans and goes "see , baaaad. Us , good" ​they won't discuss how they threw ppl in concentration camps in Kenya or how the British Raj east India tea company economic policies led to more than 30 million killed through famine. No large scale famine has occured since the British left. Funny that @@Tarnz93

    • @SiyabongaZulu-hh5hu
      @SiyabongaZulu-hh5hu 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Whats more crazy is as a south african i've never heard about black history in Britain how did that pass by

    • @dpeasehead
      @dpeasehead 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @Simzoid: Anything that challenges the notion that America is uniquely moral and righteous is either disappeared or distorted. That has always been the case.

  • @andilezulu292
    @andilezulu292 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2952

    As a South African it's always interesting to hear American leftist and American perspectives on Mandela and your analysis was great! But there were some missing pieces that I think more American leftists should understand. A lot of born free South Africans have been questioning and in some instances totally rejecting the legacy of Mandela's ANC. In fact the ANC is considered by a lot of South Africans to be an obstacle to the country's progress and overall stability. Some go as far as to call Nelson Mandela a "sell out".
    Mandela and ANC abandoned their socialist tradition in the transition to liberal democracy during the years leading up to the first democratic elections. Due to its own strategic blunders, the collapse of the Soviet Union (a big diplomatic and financial ANC supporter), militant white supremacists, the persuasion of American diplomats and pressure form domestic + international capital...the ANC embraced neoliberal capitalism when it came into government. And in varying degrees it has clung to a neoliberal framework in terms of how it manages the economy.
    28 years since the end of apartheid and half a population of 59million lives in poverty, 34% is unemployed, corruption has almost destroyed state capacity and we are statistically the most unequal country in the world. The people who suffer the most are the black poor and working class that the ANC and Mandela made a secondary concern when they came to power. This isn't to say the ANC has not improved life at all. There have been great advancements in the provision of vital services ,social support and political freedom is immensely valuable. Mandela, alongside the millions who fought to liberate SA, deserves deep appreciation for their struggle. But their stories should be told with a critical eye.
    Also Mandela's legacy of racial reconciliation is very questionable. By advocating that black people reconcile with white South Africans, in the absence of economic justice and redistribution or honest national education on what transpired during Apartheid, inequality persists and it is highly racialized. This has led to a lot of explosive resentment in some instances but its also allowed populists and xenophobes dominating politics. So we should be precise and critical when retelling or analyzing Mandela's legacy.
    The Political Economy of Race and Class in South Africa by Bernard Magubane, Elite Transition by Patrick Bond and South Africa's Corporatized Liberation by Dale T. McKinley are good resources to understanding our country since Apartheid.

    • @Octoberfurst
      @Octoberfurst 2 ปีที่แล้ว +115

      Thank you for your insights. I remember being very disappointed when the ANC, instead of implementing socialist policies, implemented neoliberalism. They missed a golden opportunity. I had read that even today whites own 75% of the land and most blacks still live in poverty. It didn't have to be this way.

    • @andilezulu292
      @andilezulu292 2 ปีที่แล้ว +184

      @@flippydaflip5310 I don't think that's entirely accurate and neither was my initial statement. I think it's more accurate to say the ANC consisted of different ideological bents. Yes, there were liberals and social democrats in the ANC who embraced bourgeoisie ideology. However there were also immensely influential communists like Chris Hani, Joe Slovo, Moses Kotane and Ronnie Kasrils. There were also Pan-Africanists and so on and on.
      I think it's more effective to understand the ANC's embrace of neoliberalism as produced by a collision between objective factors (soviet union collapse, economic instability) and their own bad strategic choices (submitting to negotiations, seizing political power without some economic power, abandoning popular struggle which could have been used as leverage against capital and national party etc)
      Also to say the ANC was always and totally a bourgeoisie organization ignores years of militant struggle both in the jungle and within the labor movement

    • @lu881
      @lu881 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@andilezulu292
      I'd like to understand what you mean by it [ANC] having not sized economic power.

    • @gtone1always
      @gtone1always 2 ปีที่แล้ว +66

      OMG thank you all for this amazing discord here. It was incredibly illuminating. And being "Merican'", We don't get taught much about anything and especially without nuance. Well, as we are learning, we weren.t taught about OURSELVES. SMH

    • @qjtvaddict
      @qjtvaddict 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Now their failure makes sense

  • @chadsloog9649
    @chadsloog9649 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2746

    As a biracial male, who grew up in a primarily white area, I feel embarrassed by how recently I learned the truth about how black history is taught. A few years ago I felt uncomfortable by how my education never seemed to line up with the realities i experienced and heard from my friends growing up. Thanks again for doing the good work you do! History is history no matter how we feel, and I respect that you make sure we know

    • @CBPfilm
      @CBPfilm 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      You should've talked to me i would tell you the more of the truth.

    • @takyrica
      @takyrica 2 ปีที่แล้ว +128

      🙋🏾‍♀️ I’m not biracial and I was so wrong about black history. I didn’t realize how bad black history was taught for most of my adult life. It’s ok though! We’re here now.

    • @cetriyasArtnComicsChannel
      @cetriyasArtnComicsChannel 2 ปีที่แล้ว +75

      I'm not supprised, and yeah I'm just learning a lot too. Also as a haitian, I'm really just now beginning to understand just how bad things are and has been.

    • @JOGA_Wills
      @JOGA_Wills 2 ปีที่แล้ว +52

      Being a halfy in this country (im in AZ) is quite the experience aint it!! You are dipped in both worlds' experiences yet are really shunned by both.

    • @chadsloog9649
      @chadsloog9649 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@CBPfilm I just looked at one of the playlists you have up. I’ll definitely check some stuff out!

  • @nabihaahmed1738
    @nabihaahmed1738 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

    I remember disliking mlk’s whole philosophy when I was a kid and preferred Malcom x. turns out this whole time I actually agreed with him my school just didn’t want me to know the truth 🤷🏿‍♀️

    • @joefes7409
      @joefes7409 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Based

    • @prim.an.propher1505
      @prim.an.propher1505 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It was the other way around for me. All we spoke about was MLK but my school hid Malcolm X, but I went to school in the south

  • @rustyshackleford2605
    @rustyshackleford2605 2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Back in the day people who went against the powers that be were demonized. Today, they're demonetized.

    • @dpeasehead
      @dpeasehead 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @rustyshakleford2605: Or more likely, both.

  • @inf3rnalis804
    @inf3rnalis804 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2490

    Listening to MLK’s anti-capitalist speeches really help me feel like I’m not crazy. It gets to me sometimes, they way everyone treats you like you’re insane for being anti-capitalist.

    • @randomlygeneratedname7171
      @randomlygeneratedname7171 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      You’re not supposed to be anti captilism your supposed to be anti big Government by enacting radical measures to stop that political class rigging things for their friends in business.

    • @mrbyzantine0528
      @mrbyzantine0528 2 ปีที่แล้ว +62

      @@randomlygeneratedname7171 While that's a start, the end goal is anti-capitalist.

    • @randomlygeneratedname7171
      @randomlygeneratedname7171 2 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      @@mrbyzantine0528 What system do you propose that is superior to private ownership?

    • @Alex_Barbosa
      @Alex_Barbosa 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@randomlygeneratedname7171 lol communism of course. You know this is a communist channel right?

    • @inf3rnalis804
      @inf3rnalis804 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@randomlygeneratedname7171 capitalism relies on exploitation. Capitalism will never be efficient and truly sustainable. The workers collectively owning the means of production is our only chance. MLK was anti-capitalist. You should be too.

  • @detheater128
    @detheater128 2 ปีที่แล้ว +444

    The MLK speech in the middle was very poignant. When talking about racial equity with others, they often dislike the idea of reparations. I always say “if a systemic problem is created along racial lines, the only solution to that problem lies along those same racial lines.” It’s impossible to create equity without addressing the root of inequity.

    • @joeyginise6051
      @joeyginise6051 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Do you mean equality?

    • @Briggsian
      @Briggsian 2 ปีที่แล้ว +60

      Really demonstrates the importance of critical race theory in addressing racial inequality. You can't fix the problems if you are unwilling to look at them closely and critically

    • @tradeprosper5002
      @tradeprosper5002 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      With only 1 out 8 Americans being black and less than that descended from slaves, not sure you are going to progress with that. I think that basic rights for all workers, universal healthcare and an increase in the minimum wage would have a better chance. How much are you going to pay the Amerindians who suffered genocide?

    • @carrieullrich5059
      @carrieullrich5059 2 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      Seriously Amerindians? Are they from India? 🙄
      Hard to believe that question was asked in gofundme d faith with the most racist thing to say about indigenous Americans.
      How about we honor the promises in our treaties? That would greatly improve the lives of indigenous people and its already something America said we would always do at minimum standards.

    • @carrieullrich5059
      @carrieullrich5059 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Good faith... Sorry kindle auto correct is horrid.

  • @zoegoode4388
    @zoegoode4388 ปีที่แล้ว +69

    i discovered this channel yesterday and have probably watched in total 5-6 videos. i can safely say i've learned more from these videos than i've learned in any of my social studies/ history classes at school.

    • @HercuLync
      @HercuLync ปีที่แล้ว

      If you had learned more in Social Studies/History you would be a lot less impressed with the historical accounts of his extremely bias videos.

    • @anabang1251
      @anabang1251 ปีที่แล้ว

      Maybe you would have paid attention in school if it was on video as well…

    • @general_o1
      @general_o1 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@HercuLync “extremely biased”? is that not what the american education system embodies in a whole ?

    • @HercuLync
      @HercuLync ปีที่แล้ว

      @@general_o1 No. That's view of liars trying to pretend the worst are the norm.

    • @SwiftJustice
      @SwiftJustice ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@HercuLyncKeep licking those capitalist boots

  • @coena9377
    @coena9377 2 ปีที่แล้ว +79

    I grew up in an affluent liberal suburb that was 97% white (according to the 2010 census, taken when I was 8). Thank you so much for this. Your channel has helped a lot with unpacking the capitalist whitewashed version of history I was taught.

  • @dave_riots
    @dave_riots 2 ปีที่แล้ว +126

    Historical revisionism is one of Facism's favorite tools.

    • @curocurovic6675
      @curocurovic6675 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      and we can observe it on this channel very precisely

    • @Nai-qk4vp
      @Nai-qk4vp 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@curocurovic6675 "Nope, you are hypochloritical and hypocrite, I win , bye bye"
      -SirCocksuckerTheThird

    • @TechMik3LP
      @TechMik3LP 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@curocurovic6675 pls care to explain, i thought he presents historical factums?

  • @jonathanwilson5355
    @jonathanwilson5355 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1048

    Ah yes, I love to learn about the actual history of the civil rights movement.
    Second thought is honestly the goat.

  • @The_Story_Of_Us
    @The_Story_Of_Us 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    The only comfort I find in all this is that history cannot be overwritten. Nothing can ever erase what heroes like MLK said, they can only be shouted over and lied about.

  • @FrostburnICS
    @FrostburnICS 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    i really appreciate how you change your format to showcase long multi paragraph quotes and large parts of speeches to avoid yourself doing what you are criticising.

  • @LiminalAlice4417
    @LiminalAlice4417 2 ปีที่แล้ว +970

    I’ve noticed that especially since around the podcast started it feels like there’s been a fair bit more humor in your content and I love it. I’m glad my college schedule still lets me see these as soon as possible (when I don’t sleep through class of course).

    • @SecondThought
      @SecondThought  2 ปีที่แล้ว +232

      Glad you’re enjoying it!

    • @guyfauks2576
      @guyfauks2576 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Dank Memes: JT edition

    • @balu.92
      @balu.92 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      I've been a long-time fan of the channel as well. I do prefer the usual style however, i.e., minus the humour. That felt more concise and gave the entire content a more point-of-authority feel.

    • @TheScottishBOLSHEVIK
      @TheScottishBOLSHEVIK 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yes they have its Turing into Wendover productions which I hate.

    • @SecondThought
      @SecondThought  2 ปีที่แล้ว +54

      Can’t please everyone 🤷‍♂️

  • @MakNCheese88
    @MakNCheese88 2 ปีที่แล้ว +628

    I posted in January about MLK's fervent anti-capitalist rhetoric, to which my MAGA friend replied "Nobody's perfect". Unknowingly both acknowledging that King's legacy is whitewashed, and admitting that they stand against what King fought for. Conservative self-owns never cease to please.

    • @christianbarrett3040
      @christianbarrett3040 2 ปีที่แล้ว +57

      I once had someone tell me that MLK was drunk when he wrote a letter to his sister endorsing democratic socialism

    • @zakurn1086
      @zakurn1086 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      So, not agreeing with anti capitalism is agreeing on white washing and being against everything they fought for?

    • @mikhailzikry6227
      @mikhailzikry6227 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I am glad that you take other peoples opinions into account but uh he should probably read on some youtube videos not us textbooks because I dont know if those textbooks talk about Mlk detailed

    • @just_a_turtle_chad
      @just_a_turtle_chad 2 ปีที่แล้ว +80

      @@zakurn1086 Basically yeah. Not being anti-capitalist means supporting a white supremacist system.

    • @1MarkKeller
      @1MarkKeller 2 ปีที่แล้ว +45

      @@just_a_turtle_chad Careful, dude is a consistent troll.

  • @kellykerr5225
    @kellykerr5225 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I have a dream that some day people will realize I had more than just one speech.

  • @micheleholley9730
    @micheleholley9730 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    My Dear amazing Vanilla Brother, this segment was FIRE. You unpacked so much. I love this segment, this is my second time listening, it is just that good.

  • @sherkhead9638
    @sherkhead9638 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1168

    As a black American, I am always skeptical when someone outside of the black community covers our icons. But you did an excellent job.

    • @M00NL9GHT
      @M00NL9GHT 2 ปีที่แล้ว +152

      Same. My experience with none black people talking about black history or anything that has to do with black people wasn't nice. They always give opinions and force them unto us as if we they were facts, and are like “this *white person's name* was bad, BUT-" leave out the bad parts, twist the story to make innocent people look bad and make it look like they got what they deserve, etc.

    • @AJ-sw8uf
      @AJ-sw8uf 2 ปีที่แล้ว +52

      Facts lol I was ready to hate

    • @tonyarmstrong5527
      @tonyarmstrong5527 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Yea this was a good video

    • @angelofdeath275
      @angelofdeath275 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      same. glad he disappointed me ❤️

    • @eggzzdee
      @eggzzdee 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      I really wish Asian people in North America have more of this kind of attitude...

  • @gspaulsson
    @gspaulsson 2 ปีที่แล้ว +527

    I'm a historian, and questions like "why do history books lie" are irksome. There are official historians who write the stuff you learn in school, tame historians who cater to an audience, narrative historians who tell entertaining stories; pseudo-historians who make stuff up. Then there are analytical historians, who do all the hard work and write academic books and papers that only other historians read. There is no lie that goes unchallenged, no point of view that cannot find a voice. What you really mean is that true history is often a hard political sell, especially when cranks and bigots of every kind have their own tame or pseudo historians who tell them what they want to hear. The problem is the information bubbles, not the history. BTW, history is constantly written and rewritten, legitimately as new evidence turns up. No history book or article of any worth would be published unless it had something new to propose. Whitewashing 101 isn't rewriting history, it's crafting fiction.

    • @Matt_Fields_29
      @Matt_Fields_29 2 ปีที่แล้ว +59

      A big reason history books across the country have this problem is because of Texas. They're one of the biggest clients and textbook companies write their textbooks to satisfy the Texas education boards. And Texas uses that ideological leverage unabashedly. When Texas orders a large enough number of textbooks to justify the costs of manufacturing, they sell the same textbooks to smaller less demanding states.

    • @rogerforsberg3910
      @rogerforsberg3910 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      "...BTW, history is constantly written and rewritten, legitimately as new evidence turns up. No history book or article of any worth would be published unless it had something new to propose."
      Thank you for your insightful observation, Mr O! For those of us whose interest in history is merely recreational -- although seriously recreational -- it's always beneficial to hear opinions from legitimate practitioners.

    • @playablue
      @playablue 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This write here
      Is comepelte w…e supremacy

    • @NopeUghUghAbsolutelyNot
      @NopeUghUghAbsolutelyNot 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      So whats the excuse for the whole daughters of confederacy taking over southern schools? Those books were published and widely used.

    • @mechanomics2649
      @mechanomics2649 2 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      Yet history books and articles absolutely are published, with false information. As the other person said, the Daughters of the Confederacy is one of the best examples of this.
      You're, in your own words, crafting fiction.
      The rest of the comment appears to not really say all that much and is pedantic at best.

  • @JackHagar
    @JackHagar ปีที่แล้ว +134

    I’m a white and as I get older, I find I’m becoming more liberal. I used to be a major advocate for capitalism and believed those who didn’t do well under it simply weren’t working hard enough, but learning about things like this where critics of capitalism are being silenced just makes me realize how mislead of I’ve been this whole time.

    • @sogghartha
      @sogghartha ปีที่แล้ว +40

      hate to break it to you, but liberal means pro-capitalist. liberal is not the left. they are right wing. you know, pelosi, obama, clinton, those people.

    • @Diovanlestat
      @Diovanlestat ปีที่แล้ว

      @@sogghartha Think much depends on the country you come from. All them people are Americans. But Liberal thought is older than America and rooted in Europe and the UK. The first Liberal party was created in the UK and were noted for giving more people the vote and creating many laws to help workers and the poor. Even now in Britian the Liberals are seen as social democrats, centre left not right. American political parties and definitions are very different to how they are used in Europe and the UK.

    • @bpoydras1503
      @bpoydras1503 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      I am a long time black Conservative/Republican and think of how I feel, after having come to this same conclusion as you. The sellout I must be. 🤦🏾‍♂️

    • @PilzFarm
      @PilzFarm ปีที่แล้ว

      @@sogghartha you are confusing Liberal with liberal my dude. A liberal is not conservative, they are about liberties and for most people that means for everyone. Capital L Liberals are about freemdom from any regulation which targets the injustice and therefore thretening their status quo.

    • @garyfookins9968
      @garyfookins9968 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bpoydras1503 be kind to yourself, we were all victims of psychological abuse at the hands of the capitalist regime. Now we can work together to change things and complete MLK's and other's plan for true justice.

  • @jonahholdsworth5079
    @jonahholdsworth5079 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Im a south african and I feel like ive learned more about mandela in this video then 12 years of school ever taught me

  • @InsightfulZen
    @InsightfulZen 2 ปีที่แล้ว +170

    Even as a teenager I always questioned why Nelson Mandela was always included in American history textbooks when talking about the Civil Rights Era. It always felt a little off because until that point, South Africa's history is a complete mystery up until Mandela's presidency and it was never made clear how bad Apartheid was, just that Mandela ended it. This is a really good observation and wow does it explain a lot.

    • @ninyaninjabrifsanovichthes45
      @ninyaninjabrifsanovichthes45 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      Also Mandela was a huge friend of Fidel Castro and did not like the US at all lmao.

    • @SciFi2285
      @SciFi2285 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      Most westerners are genuinely perplexed as to why South Africa always seems to side with China and Russia over them whenever there is a crisis. But it is not hard to understand why. The West (America, Britain, France, West [later unified] Germany, Israel, New Zealand, and Australia especially) had a tendency to speak out of both sides of their mouths. Simultaneously claiming to abhor apartheid while providing diplomatic cover, economic support, and even arms to the white minority regime. Demanding that blacks cease resistance and initiate “constructive engagement” with whites even though they were the ones being brutalized.

    • @InsightfulZen
      @InsightfulZen 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@SciFi2285 Ohhh that makes a ton of sense. That's why our history books don't really talk that much about South Africa. Thank you for sharing that context

    • @johnindigo5477
      @johnindigo5477 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Same. I bet a lot of kids thought Mandela was american.
      I learned about apartied on my own in middle school and it's interesting seeing how counties can run parallel

  • @crevail
    @crevail 2 ปีที่แล้ว +606

    I've learned more about history and politics in two weeks of binging every single one of your political videos than I have in 16 years of formal American education

    • @TheSundownState
      @TheSundownState 2 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      It’s a rush isn’t it? Hmu if you want some books to read

    • @Social_Pugatory
      @Social_Pugatory 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      @@TheSundownState I want some books to read. Preferably from some black authors too.

    • @189Blake
      @189Blake 2 ปีที่แล้ว +52

      You misspelled American propaganda

    • @falkorornothing261
      @falkorornothing261 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Have you checked out any from Adam Something or Saint Andrew? Those are 2 other great video essayists. I know there are more but my mind is blanking.

    • @guy-sl3kr
      @guy-sl3kr 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@falkorornothing261 Saint Andrew's cool but Adam Something is a lib. Look at his community posts, they're half pictures of trains and half think tank talking points. If you're looking for a channel that talks about public transport, Not Just Bikes is better imo.

  • @skore9975
    @skore9975 2 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    I'd really recommend everyone to read Stokely Carmichael's Black Power. It is an enlightening work and really sets out plainly the whitewashing of the Black radicalism that actually made progress in civil rights. Revolutionary Suicide by Huey Newton and Dark Ghetto by Kenneth Clark are also great reads in that regard.

    • @nonconformist9930
      @nonconformist9930 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      dont give wi folk accolaids but i am impressed by your depth of reading. i wish more blk folk would read these works. id add ..Im not your negro and The nigga theorey.

  • @freethinker3083
    @freethinker3083 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    Man, you are the Goat! As an African American to see you using your platform to educate others on this matter is amazing. I think often when it comes from a black person it can be interpreted differently or from a place of bitterness. Thank you.

    • @hoodboyzAtl
      @hoodboyzAtl ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Black America not African

    • @GaryTisdaleFungkSta1
      @GaryTisdaleFungkSta1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@hoodboyzAtl Too many don't know that our history has been redacted and revised since Reconstruction
      Also I always notice how conveniently they'll skip MLK's speech in regards to Reparations and that the march to Washington was going to be a march to get our checks and probably the main reason they took him out and to this day they're dodging that subject

    • @hoodboyzAtl
      @hoodboyzAtl ปีที่แล้ว

      @@GaryTisdaleFungkSta1 Exactly it's a lot of untold history that they are hidden from us.. Martin his i have a dream speech he said he had a nightmare.... That nightmare is what's happening too us getting killed by the pig police getting a Lynch Etc. That government set up with the black lives matter had governments informants holding them black umbrellas starting unprovoked riots

    • @GaryTisdaleFungkSta1
      @GaryTisdaleFungkSta1 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@hoodboyzAtl MLK later stated he led his people into a burning house in regards to integration, along with he was taken out because of his talk on reparations and that Coon James Clyburn, been to the one in Charleston SC
      Black Lives Matter was a facade cause it was basically White LGBTQ in Blackface, them and the Trans community benefitted the most off of it, besides whatever the 3 lesbian Marxist didn't pocket themselves and BLM.org is a faction the "Liberal Imperialism" agenda
      The grassroots had warnings to distance themselves from the organization but they chose not to listen, especially with ANTIFA's involvement cause they're basically the Jack Booted Thugs of the LGBTQ community
      Also any Black American that bought into what's known as "The Great White American Lie" of European's brought Blacks to the America's via the infamous European Cruise and is the sole reason for Blacks being in the America's, has gotten their ass faked out the gym and clueless to their actual history, which has been redacted and revised since Reconstruction and the Global Blanqueamiento of History into His Story!!!💯

    • @edwinamendelssohn5129
      @edwinamendelssohn5129 ปีที่แล้ว

      He's a commie using you.

  • @penzlic
    @penzlic 2 ปีที่แล้ว +180

    I grew up in (socialist) country that no longer exist, and being a bookworm, I also read some encyclopaedias and school books from time when my dad was my age ( from 60' and early 70') and there was a lot about liberation struggle in Africa, mostly about Lubumba, Sese Seko, Kenyatta, etc but not many (if few) even mentioned MLK rather than general "USA treats people bad" narrative.
    Many years later and having internet, whole idealistic picture of USA that is served by mass media abroad begun to crumble, and by crumble I mean landsliding into the depths of WTF ocean.

    • @ah_libra
      @ah_libra 2 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      As an american, this kind of awakening has happened to many of us too. And hopefully it happens to more and more people.

    • @jonashardenhaug179
      @jonashardenhaug179 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      USA, I have a lot of bad news for you and 90% of them was your very sorry fault.
      Let us start with something simple, meeting your pops base necesities. While you you pump out loads of amenities from your clerks, moguls and merchants jobs and other corporate jobs, those amenities are at large channeled to your specialists and rulers, while leaving the workers behind, only giving them measly +5% happiness. While your specialist and rulers can keep tabs on 5 and 9 workers each, as your living conditions are set to strattified economy. this alone will make your amenities yo-yoing from hundreds to minus hundreds in any given state, thanks to economic crashes every 5-7 years, thus sliding to my next bad new: Massive neglect and reluctance to improve your infrastructure and provide your workers with food, water, housing, meds and education.
      Talking about food, water, meds, education and housing; they all fall into a similar problem: You have plenty of avaible food, water, housing, education and meds, but thanks to fully privatized resource handling, a market based economy with trade value being unreliable as ever for energy and alloys and said stratification of said resources, means that you rely heavly on your rulers and specialists to keep your stability above 50% in any states at any given time. Not only will your workers be less productive and extremly unhappy, thanks to you clinging on limit working hours policy, using labour age and blessings edicts (nation wide campaings that change how your empire works and alters amy stats from simple resource upkeep increase/decrease to more abstract stats like edict cap, admin cap and more), but you will pump out loads of resources, especially raw resources like minerals, food and energy. If you thought that the happiness malus was bad, those workers are much more likely to catch diseases, thus running the risk of having flues, tropical diseases like the West Nile virus to camp within your borders and eventually become immune to your treatments and meds you so desperatly tries to profit of. Those diseases will send your pop growth to abyss, or at least slowing it down by 10-40%, as your workers your main bulk of your pop count, and your specialists and rulers reproduce somewhat slowly, like 2-3 kids in 40-50 years.
      Thus leading to my third bad new; utterly unprepared for any climate and geological distasters like tornadoes, earthquakes, droughts, storms and ao on. Those will inflict at least 10% devastation on the inflicted states, reducing your amenitiy, resource production, housing and jobs upkeep by 10%, eat those every 5-6 months, in one of your 52 states. That in addition to their respective effects, like drought reducing your food and water production by at least 20% (multiplicative, so forget about using stacking modifiers to said resource production to "escape" the malus, or tornadoes and storms to shred cities, resource districts, pipeline and telecoms with ease, costing you 1000s of minerals to fix, if ever done. That will happens more often as the climate changes amplify or even alters each states climate and weather. Unemployed pops, in particular workers will send your state happiness down the drain as 1 ruler per 1000 workers will have little impact on pop approval (how content are your populations with your currents policies and ethics), so expect to see alot of unrest and even outright protests. Your exorbitant amount of enforcers will at least keep the crime rate down to comfortably 20-30% where you still can extract your so beloved prisoners to your poor camps.
      While you are busy trying to vassalize/ turn China to a capitalistic, zenophobic, militaristic, authoterian and insutrialistic trade partner or otherwise flex your military muscles, your pops, especially in the worker classes and to some degree specialists as well, rapidly shift their ethics over to cooparatism (any degree of collectivism, usually to socialism, the fanatic version of collectivism and economic equality), zenophilia (love of the unknown, especially in term of cultures and intelligent lifeform), ecosentrism (nature over human made environments like cities, mines, factories and more, as well as emphazis on sustainable resource production), libertarianism, also known as egalitarianism (political equality) and many more, bur mainly those afformentioned ethics. This cause even more unrest and unhappy pops, which in turn cause your empire sprawl (the administrative strain your pops, districts, buildings; can be called infrastructure, territory in terms of numbers of cities, states, communes, star system and colonies in space age) to increase as unhappy pops will do whatever they can to make it harder for you to gains intel on them and organize them. While you are doing splendid resource wise and still doing decently on the sciences, your unity production is crap, as you may have seen and noticed as rise in conspiracy theories, increasingly divided pops and cultural products of subpar quality.
      So even if your facism awakening will buy you time, you will eventually splinter up before year 2100, while China regain their former gory as a trade powerhouse and enter the World stage. Good luck with your decay, Merica.

    • @charlestonianbuilder344
      @charlestonianbuilder344 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@jonashardenhaug179 all empires will fall, and it seems the clock is ticking on america, but i dont think china would be the next superpower, as america will do anything to be number one, rip

    • @estacion7386
      @estacion7386 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@ah_libra That vision of "murica" world police, must die and rott in hell

    • @grmpEqweer
      @grmpEqweer 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I am 🇺🇸. Some time in high school (I was about 16) I found out about the death squads we inflicted on El Salvador. I stopped pledging allegiance to the flag. We had to stand for the pledge, but I didn't have to say it. I didn't.
      American school children are generally supposed to stand up and pledge allegiance to the flag every morning, which is brainwashing.

  • @OMAOILRIAN
    @OMAOILRIAN 2 ปีที่แล้ว +162

    I had an amazing high school teacher that knew he had to teach the textbook, but also knew I loved history and had questions that the book didn't answer. He killed two birds with one stone and had me do weekly research papers on the lesson plan he made each week. Every Friday, I was able to teach actual history to my classmates through my papers. While I still love history and teach it via tutoring friends children and my nieces and nephews, I decided against teaching as a profession because I didn't want to teach propaganda to kids. Seeing the current climate in America, I am happy with my decision.

    • @Briggsian
      @Briggsian 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      You had a great teacher!

    • @ah_libra
      @ah_libra 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @OMAOILRIAN very smart decision! I'm proud of you! :)

    • @user-gi3uw2th6m
      @user-gi3uw2th6m 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @Mateo Hodge He would have been censored by the government, though

    • @tayxxmonster
      @tayxxmonster 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I decided to do the same, tutor, bc I will not have parents/guardians and the government breathing down my neck as I teach the truth lol

    • @soversetile
      @soversetile ปีที่แล้ว

      Good choice

  • @Wet_n_Soft
    @Wet_n_Soft ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I know the seriousness of the topics discussed here but that throwaway Flat Stanley joke was genuinely one of the best chuckles I’ve had in a while. A+ material

  • @samerm8657
    @samerm8657 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    What an eye opener for me! Thank you greatly.
    I knew about the BlackPanthers, but the MLK speech lines gave me shivers.

  • @dirtypagan5793
    @dirtypagan5793 2 ปีที่แล้ว +189

    I’ve only realized this recently, but a similar narrative applies to Canadian history in the oppression of First Nations people(aka. American Indian, Métis and Inuit). My First Nations coworker made it apparent that they were still being not being allowed into businesses and police were raiding and burning down some houses on the reserve as late as the 90’s in some places. When you think about the history of human nature in these types of situations it’s pretty odious that this would be the case but I never thought about it because I think a part of me didn’t want to believe it. Of course a big issue happening here right now is the court cases trying to get compensation for residential schools, but the government has focused on it to make it look like it was the only big problem, and now they’re in the middle of fixing it. People want to settle in the more comfortable narrative that their country has no major problems, and the ones around are being or are mostly fixed.

    • @Briggsian
      @Briggsian 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Canada's treatment of First Nations people is easily one of its biggest failings.

    • @leighhennessy8212
      @leighhennessy8212 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      We have the same issues in Australia with our First Nation peoples. We are taught aboriginal customs but we aren't taught about the stolen generation and a multitude of other things that are essential.

    • @GeteMachine
      @GeteMachine 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Canadian history is surprisingly much more culturally whitewashed than American history, even without CRT scare. Somehow they're more willing to acknowledge institutional racism and history in Canada, but yet at the same time its far more pre-censored. Like Canada supporting anti-abolitionists, its very explicit white supremacist roots against indigenous people from its early priministers, the support of the SS Nazis, and some segregation elements that also historically existed though mostly retained politically with reservations. The sorely homogeny of their own music industry, and sports history. A lot. Its just retended that everything was fine but just lacking in visible representaton rather than history. Read any history book in Canada and all you get is the war in 1812 and pretty much the "whitest" centered history you'll ever see.

    • @Y0utubeIsFuckingHomo
      @Y0utubeIsFuckingHomo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      The problem is people like you who are lead to the water and accept the drink are in the vast minority. Most people refuse the water and truth and don't accept or care about the suffering of others if it even ever so slightly inconveniences them.

    • @Y0utubeIsFuckingHomo
      @Y0utubeIsFuckingHomo 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@leighhennessy8212 "White Australia" be like

  • @SecondThought
    @SecondThought  2 ปีที่แล้ว +325

    Howdy, friends! I hope you all enjoy the video. This one could easily have been twice as long, so maybe I’ll do a part 2 at some point. If you’re enjoying the videos I put out, please consider supporting me on Patreon! I haven’t had a sponsor in a while and I don’t have any on the horizon, so every donation helps. Every patron gets early access to each video, plus access to our patrons-only Discord server. It’s a lot of fun! We even have a book club. Either way, thanks for watching, and I appreciate your support!
    Patreon.com/secondthought

    • @honestreviewer4864
      @honestreviewer4864 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      PLEASE DO A PART 2!!! IF YOU SEE THIS COMMENT!😭😩

    • @captaincorleone7088
      @captaincorleone7088 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Yes, please! As soon as you said that the video was shortened because of constraints, I immediately thought to visit the comments and ask that you produce a 2nd part. I cannot speak for others but I would've watched a video that was twice as long. 🙂

    • @goutamboppana961
      @goutamboppana961 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      So the world has 193 countries how many countries do you think are spiralling down in the same level as America? And a request:- make some science videos while you can

    • @_Jaybefaunt
      @_Jaybefaunt 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Please do a Part 2. We are the Revolutionary Blackout Network talk about this all the time and it's nice to see others (especially non-black people) talk about this accurately.

    • @MishaFlower
      @MishaFlower 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      When a e you gonna make a video about your fbi document?

  • @avirei98
    @avirei98 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I remember when I was a kid and I learned about the Black Panthers I was told that they were a terrorist group, And then I found out in my late twenties there was a whole world of false history that we were taught. I I was already aware of this but how deep it went I was not aware of. And it's thanks to videos like this that paints the full picture Martin Luther King is painted in such a great light but it's like they completely ignored most of what he said I remember them playing his speech in school. I remember hearing about Nelson Mandela or whatever the dude in South Africa and about him being arrested and blah blah blah blah, and him ending apartheid. But I also heard he wasn't a great person and that was a false history and he was a terrorist. Thanks to your video I find out he tried to start things off peacefully and then had to escalate it to get them to listen and it wasn't even all him. (This sounds very familiar because when people were trying to condemn the riots for the BLM and I don't even support BLM but when people were trying to condemn those riots as if throughout our history white people have never rioted to make out change)

  • @Dud-in9iu
    @Dud-in9iu ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I love how the author links MLK and the BLM movements together. So many people try to say they are opposite, but they are surely one in the same.

    • @Superb_Legend
      @Superb_Legend ปีที่แล้ว

      Yep each gave way to exploitation of civil unrest to line pockets.

  • @jakjam300
    @jakjam300 2 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    "Malcolm X never lived to see the government fall, but the state he opposed made him a stamp. And that's the best you can hope for if you never give up, your enemies will teach your corpse to dance." - Pat the Bunny

  • @DCMarvelMultiverse
    @DCMarvelMultiverse 2 ปีที่แล้ว +383

    My mostly black coworkers at an old job were quizzed by being asked who said the first half of what was later revealed to be the IHAD speech. I was the only who actually had read the whole speech. My coworkers shouted me down as the ignorant non black dude. The speaker who read the first half was shocked I knew it was the IHAD speech. Her mouth literally dropped open. So, yeah, you are right about MLK being one dimensional in America.

    • @DarkNJuju
      @DarkNJuju 2 ปีที่แล้ว +91

      Because the white people who decided what is taught in school decided to reduce MLK to the small one line. IF I am not mistaken in my life time he occupied ONE page in my history book.

    • @1MarkKeller
      @1MarkKeller 2 ปีที่แล้ว +59

      I have a similar experience whenever I have to correct Whites about their history I think they should know.

    • @johnallenbailey1103
      @johnallenbailey1103 2 ปีที่แล้ว +77

      I routinely have to tell white people that "being judged by the content of your character," is one excerpt from one speech out of hundreds of speeches.

    • @tommyellenbecker4786
      @tommyellenbecker4786 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      And so did pretty much everyone else lol

    • @GeteMachine
      @GeteMachine 2 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      Not everyone really knows about it in full. Including a lot of black americans I listen to today. If they did, there wouldn't still be so much fall back support these corporate democrats. The intergration of marxism anti-capitalism and the root of racism from capitalism isn't well taught, but understood by MLK. I don't know if it was said but he was often infering it.

  • @jonathanguzman3044
    @jonathanguzman3044 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You approached this controversial topic really well. Thank you for putting out dope ass content like this

  • @chawaphiri1196
    @chawaphiri1196 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I live in a third world country and I find the content of this channel very educational and inspiring. Keep up the good work

    • @HercuLync
      @HercuLync ปีที่แล้ว

      This is not an educational piece. It's a persuasive piece that very much cherry picks information to push it's narrative. He's not even pretending it is.

    • @Superb_Legend
      @Superb_Legend ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@HercuLync ppl love confirmation bias

    • @archusrtm6325
      @archusrtm6325 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Isn’t the accepted term nowadays “developing nation” or “imperial periphery” ?

    • @bacicinvatteneaca
      @bacicinvatteneaca 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Those teo terms have polar opposite implications. The only thing "wrong" with 3rd world is that it implies the rxistence of a 2nd world of preachers, provided for by the 3rd world, just like it provides for the 1st world of military aristocratic exploiterd

  • @makai5749
    @makai5749 2 ปีที่แล้ว +61

    I don't think they teach you that mlk didn't like capitalism in school or that the black panthers where Marxist Leninist and you only learn about one chairman.

  • @Rwhalt
    @Rwhalt 2 ปีที่แล้ว +182

    “The most effective way to destroy people is to deny and obliterate their own understanding of their history.” -George Orwell

    • @samage2
      @samage2 2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      Even tho he was a plagiarist and a bad person, he got it right with that line

    • @luc6284
      @luc6284 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      And ironically he himself contributed so much to this distortion of history.

    • @Rwhalt
      @Rwhalt 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@luc6284 IKR? Hard to tell if this quote was a warning or a mantra. 🙃

    • @luc6284
      @luc6284 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@geekyradical4985 Animal Farm and 1984 are excellent propaganda pieces still used by the state to demonise communism to this day. Orwell was a snitch who gave names of communists to the British police state in the middle of WWII when comrades throughout Europe were fighting to the death against the Nazi beast. He was a sellout and an opportunist.

    • @luc6284
      @luc6284 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@geekyradical4985 Animal Farm is shitty critique though. It is not a real thing. Real history is a lot more nuanced and complex and this book certainly does not reflect real events in the USSR at the time. In my eyes it's pretty clear. If you work with the feds, you're not a comrade.

  • @Justlurkin_lol
    @Justlurkin_lol 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love some more news! Cody’s showdy keeps me going
    I’m new to this channel, and I think I’ll be sticking around ☺️

  • @brooklyn3905
    @brooklyn3905 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    That was incredible. I learned so much. Thank you for being a source of knowledge because knowledge is power Power to the people!

    • @HercuLync
      @HercuLync ปีที่แล้ว

      He's presenting an argument here, not history. He complains about one side cherry picking, but he cherry picks himself to make his point. This is not a history lesson, it's political piece pushing a narrative.

    • @blueskythinking6674
      @blueskythinking6674 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@HercuLync ,. No it isn't, what are you even doing here?.

    • @HercuLync
      @HercuLync ปีที่แล้ว

      @@blueskythinking6674 he absolutely is.

  • @alarimbaud3155
    @alarimbaud3155 2 ปีที่แล้ว +163

    Specific focuses aside, MLK/Malcolm X/James Baldwin/etc... were all effectively consciously condemning capitalism (and the systems around it) with warnings society ignored, and here we are. Similar to the condemnations/warnings of Wilde, Dickens, Marx, Rousseau, etc... before. Which were similar to those of basically every major religious figure of antiquity (Jesus, Buddha, Moses, etc...). Which were similar to most major philosophical schools of antiquity (Diogenes was a student of Socrates, after all). Etc... Core idea: keep your own biases and anxieties in check before projecting them onto others (not to therefore ignore the core issue because you, personally, "don't see color"). Stop exploiting others; stop exploiting each other; stop feeling others have the right to exploit you.
    Put that on a t-shirt (made by kids in Malaysia)!

    • @joeanthony7759
      @joeanthony7759 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Even establishment leaders from Eisenhower to Carter warned the country of a voracious military-industrial-complex (Eisenhower) and our hyper-consumerism/environmental devastation (Carter)

    • @auroch8335
      @auroch8335 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      .

    • @voxomnes9537
      @voxomnes9537 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@joeanthony7759 And yet both still perpetuated those systems. Don't talk about those presidents as though they weren't part of the problem

    • @katherinehenley2008
      @katherinehenley2008 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That is the truth

  • @rontom3405
    @rontom3405 2 ปีที่แล้ว +303

    Thank you for this... This is the stuff I tell people but refuse to believe because it destroys what they learned in school.. as an African American male.. I say you did amazing in explaining things... Happy black history month.. and for others,please read more about our history outside school

    • @ErutaniaRose
      @ErutaniaRose 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I wholeheartedly agree. Some of things I have found didn’t shock me so much as they made me angry. I just don’t understand why people let fear and ignorance get so far up their a$$ That it hits their brain. Like, how hard is it to just...not hate people, or to value people more than money or false reputation. Why is a false reputation and fake equality so much “better” than a true and good reputation and real equality and equity??? Like...WHY? I can’t.
      And thank you. Education of Black historia and/or women’s historia should not be confined to a single (and the shortest) month.

    • @Neogears1312
      @Neogears1312 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      People choose truth off of identity. It’s only true when someone more popular or famous says it. Even if you say it first. Clout decides facts. And that fact, disgusts me

    • @hithere748
      @hithere748 ปีที่แล้ว

      🙄🙄🙄🙄

  • @saulziyech9710
    @saulziyech9710 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I've learned more from youtube in 2 years than i have in school for 15yrs

  • @Mohamed-dj7qf
    @Mohamed-dj7qf ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Most honest presentation I've seen in a while. All the best

  • @PhilSFreep
    @PhilSFreep 2 ปีที่แล้ว +294

    Every opportunity to de-mythologize and knock down that truly awful president Reagan is appreciated - thanks

    • @johnl6176
      @johnl6176 2 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      I hope history removes his image and literally replaces it with a 6'1" flake of dandruff. That cracked me up.

    • @icyx9268
      @icyx9268 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Wiimeiser well if that is what it takes for true justice because see alot of ppl dont realise this But we are living through just as much mind control as north korea But because we are super power we cant and dont look at it that way we look at it as the reality of all current realities for humans eventhough it is still a delusion created by a small amount of thoughtless ppl that are willing and that are sending humanity into death spiral for short turm selfish greed of getting most amount of control as possible even if it destroys everyone and it is because 90+% of ppl are stupid and so there is a pretty good chance if someone becomes rich they will be stupid and Not disciplined or thoughtful enough to fight toddler like primal instincts and will just drool and cave to and at first sight of whatever thoughtless split second in moment thing that apeals to primal instincts and Not only Not fight them But actively go agains't greater good which in long turm is greater good for them aswell it is like a child getting parents credit card and thoughtlessly spending it all on a toy or first toy that there primal instincts that have been psychologically manipulated by the toy and will thoughtlessly buy it even if it is either dont pay rent your family go's homeless or buy that toy they will still choose to buy that toy Not because they are making that decision or even doing that calculation because they are not they are buying that toy without any consideration of rent or going homeless and a complete dissmissal of it because they dont even realise they are technically from broad spectrum unknowledgable to know that that is happening

    • @curtisthomas2670
      @curtisthomas2670 ปีที่แล้ว

      He took part in the Hollywood blacklisting, anti-sgemitic and anti-gay witchu ts, McCarthy era Red Scare.
      He was involved in the Nixon scandals.
      His campaign team negotiated delaying the release of hostages in lran so as to avoid giving Carter a pr boost and possibly election victory.
      Btw there's rumors of him and Rock Hudson ........

    • @chompythebeast
      @chompythebeast ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@Wiimeiser Capitalism's failure is built into capitalism itself, it isn't some world-ending cataclysm you seem to be implying. That's just your programming talking: The world existed long before capitalism and _will_ exist even longer after it. It is ideological zealotry and naivete to assume otherwise, like a Roman assuming Rome would last forever

    • @Az-dc4nu
      @Az-dc4nu ปีที่แล้ว

      💯

  • @chrisbacos
    @chrisbacos 2 ปีที่แล้ว +137

    In my high school US History class on the first day, our teacher announced "we won't use that piece of crap called a textbook, that's for the birds.

    • @mikhailzikry6227
      @mikhailzikry6227 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Good because its whitewashed I am glad that you guys get an actual history class

    • @chrisbacos
      @chrisbacos 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@mikhailzikry6227 for the most part in high school I didn't "learn" anything worth a damn.

    • @tonyjones1560
      @tonyjones1560 2 ปีที่แล้ว +57

      Sounds like my Black History teacher, Mr. Gillum. He'd start out with the textbook but he'd turn around and say, "Okay, now here's the rest of the story, the parts that are deliberately left out, glossed over or just flat lied about." He did that with history across the board, BTW.

    • @qjtvaddict
      @qjtvaddict 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@chrisbacos America doesn’t educate people it brainwashes them

    • @guidedexplosiveprojectileg9943
      @guidedexplosiveprojectileg9943 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@tonyjones1560 he get fired?

  • @timstewart9026
    @timstewart9026 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Very well done. I remember the man you speak of, not the one so often mis-(or only partially) quoted.

  • @natividadfamiliapereyra3742
    @natividadfamiliapereyra3742 ปีที่แล้ว

    Please, continue to produce the series on these topic....this truth needs to be known..🗣

  • @jayDee92133
    @jayDee92133 2 ปีที่แล้ว +200

    I would have loved to see a video about Fred Hampton or Malcolm X because the lies that conservatives spew about them is disgusting.

    • @SecondThought
      @SecondThought  2 ปีที่แล้ว +99

      Yeah, I’d like to do a full episode on the Black Panthers

    • @stonemclaughlin7455
      @stonemclaughlin7455 2 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      @@SecondThought Malcolm X is such a Hidden gem

    • @tonyjones1560
      @tonyjones1560 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      The circumstances surrounding the death (state-sanctioned assassination, really) of Fred Hampton would be worth a video IMO

    • @rickeybernard8156
      @rickeybernard8156 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Everybody does it honestly. Never the full story.

    • @ecoRfan
      @ecoRfan 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      MX in particular is used by conservatives in the bootstrap argument

  • @_Jaybefaunt
    @_Jaybefaunt 2 ปีที่แล้ว +155

    Thank you! This was on point and needed. Many times people don't listen to us black leftists when we try to talk about the civil rights leaders of yesteryear. Thank you for doing this.

    • @1MarkKeller
      @1MarkKeller 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Yep, and just doing a quick read of the comments I can tell that there are plenty of White people who still aren't quite getting it.

    • @nicolasleroux5302
      @nicolasleroux5302 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@1MarkKeller No, YOU people don’t get it. MLK’s movement has devastated this country. Every city in this country led by ⚫️ Americans has third world poverty/crime rates. It’s absolutely disgraceful that cities like Detroit (once referred to as America’s Paris) now look like giant ghettos. And to make matters even worse, now we have to listen to you people lecture use about justice even though your community is overrepresented in every single category of violent crime.

    • @voxomnes9537
      @voxomnes9537 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@nicolasleroux5302 Yikes 🤫

    • @nicolasleroux5302
      @nicolasleroux5302 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@voxomnes9537 Having a homicide rate worse than the narco state we border is the real yikes.

    • @1MarkKeller
      @1MarkKeller 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@nicolasleroux5302 PLEASE cry more and cry louder.

  • @gloriaf6971
    @gloriaf6971 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Nothing irks me more than to hear racist Republicans quote MLK 's "content of their character " statement.

    • @Tra982
      @Tra982 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Democrats are the real racists who btw founded and backed the kkk and voted against every civil rights act of legislation

  • @ReubenAStern
    @ReubenAStern ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks for telling me about Mandella. You mentioned a tonne of stuff I didn't know.

  • @Pridetoons
    @Pridetoons 2 ปีที่แล้ว +68

    I'd love to see these people try to whitewash Malcolm X, the Black Panthers, or the Black Liberation Movement, however we all know why they're not going to try that one.

    • @Fafnd
      @Fafnd 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      The powerful will just try to erase it or make them out to be the bad guys so brainwashed right wingers and centrists will commit violence against them.

    • @georgekostaras
      @georgekostaras 2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      Usually they vilify the likes of Malcolm. I was going through my old comic book collection and the black panthers were painted as being no different from Nazis. The propaganda is real

    • @CreationsFlare
      @CreationsFlare 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      They don't try to convert those, they simply view them as terrorists so they must be wrong. Don't listen to them, they're bad people!

    • @Dhumm81
      @Dhumm81 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Didn't that recent CIA/Marvel flick attempt to whitewash the BPP in a round about way? Seems they basically copied their name and aesthetics, but made them foreign techno-feudal fuckwads, and that latter bit presented as supposedly a "good" thing.
      (I'm going on previews and critical reviews; I haven't watched it, and I never will.)

    • @wildernessisland2573
      @wildernessisland2573 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Dhumm81 which movie is this? I don't follow Marvel movies closely

  • @NWKBricks1
    @NWKBricks1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +95

    Great content, as usual. I believe Dr.Cornel West called this the "Santa Clausification "of MLK.

    • @smiller2114
      @smiller2114 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Love Dr. Cornell West!

    • @edwinamendelssohn5129
      @edwinamendelssohn5129 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What? Pointing out that he was a man of principle unlike the black leaders today? 😊

  • @waynesworld2938
    @waynesworld2938 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you for this video! I admire your honesty and courage!

  • @connorjacobs1148
    @connorjacobs1148 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    This TH-cam channel is awesome and has really opened my eyes and helped me change politically so thank you for that. I used to be ultra conservative or even worse than. Just to get to the point I’m really happy I found the correct side to be on and change my ways.

    • @jager8148
      @jager8148 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Very nice :). Politics are so difficult right now becasue neither side cares about you, its just which cares about you a tiny bit more.

    • @zunfix1194
      @zunfix1194 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I was the same way when i was young, I considered myself center-right but after graduating high school and entering the working environment I started questioning things then i discovered second thought he really opened my eyes and i learned so much in such a sort amount of time. I realized everything i was taught was a lie, capitalism is an evil and corrupt system and im glad this channel was able to change my politically views

  • @KaelGen
    @KaelGen 2 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Second thought - The shit you should've learned in history class but didn't

  • @yenziwemotha3049
    @yenziwemotha3049 2 ปีที่แล้ว +97

    Living here in South Africa I can say that documents were released that showed that Mandela and the ANC negotiated with the apartheid regime to basically keep everything the same and just remove the "Geen Swartes toegelaat" or "No blacks allowed signs". Yes I am a black South African who can perfectly speak the oppressors language and it's embarrassing

    • @Y0utubeIsFuckingHomo
      @Y0utubeIsFuckingHomo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      God bless Africa and African people, we are the cheap prostitute of colonialism and accept it gladly.

    • @curocurovic6675
      @curocurovic6675 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      "n who can perfectly speak the oppressors language "
      europeans that created the nation are the oppressors and west africans that came to enjoy the well being created from european men are the oppressed
      soon to be seen in Sweden

    • @mateot215
      @mateot215 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@curocurovic6675 hey pal, you just blow in from stupid town?

    • @wrestlinganime4life288
      @wrestlinganime4life288 ปีที่แล้ว

      Basically they advocate for a colorblind society without retribution of wealth?

    • @yenziwemotha3049
      @yenziwemotha3049 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@wrestlinganime4life288 pretty much. That's the reason for the whole rainbow nation rhetoric

  • @michaelRay2576
    @michaelRay2576 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I enjoy viewing this channel as credible & informative.
    Thank you for producing this documentary 👍🏽👍🏾😀

  • @akken2112
    @akken2112 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    "The greatest purveyor of violence in the world, my own government, I cannot be silent."
    --Dr Martin Luther King, Jr.

  • @thankouf01
    @thankouf01 2 ปีที่แล้ว +55

    At least I will get to see this whitewashing video before it gets age restricted. Again

    • @IronKnight2402
      @IronKnight2402 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Same lol

    • @ashj_2088
      @ashj_2088 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Before it gets pulled 🤯🔫

  • @traposucio2944
    @traposucio2944 2 ปีที่แล้ว +57

    Watch Some more news's video about this; it's a wonderful, longer version of this. This one synthesises the thesis better, although the other shows more original clips of MLK and arguments. I totally recommend it.
    As a Spaniard who was raised by people who know what fascism is, allow me to apply some positive condescending and europeanness here so my fellow proletariat American friends get to understand one thing.
    The MLK whitewashing with the single line from a single speech thing fits COMPLETELY the definition Goebbels gave for propaganda. I strongly advise anyone, particularly when living in the anglosphere, to study with attention the 11 principles of propaganda Goebbels described.
    As I see it, during the cold war both the Soviets and, particularly, the Americans perfected the method and applied it widely, particularly Americans (and as freaking globally as they could), since. You have to understand it was mixed with marketing and other social science, including leftist staff as Foucault and Derrida. I cannot empathise enough that, even though Spain under franco was an militar autocracy product of a genocidal civil war, the levels of propaganda I see in America since Reagan and mostly since Trump, are WAY more propagandistic than anything I know of the Franco dictatorship. If not even before. Truly. I hate freaking Franco, don't get me wrong. But I despise Fox News even more. It's unbelievable how they sell the population that they defend that's liberty and freedom. Or that freedom is a tradition to be preserved rather than an objective. Or how perverted all enlightened liberalism and notions such as individualism seem to be now in the US and rest of the anglosphere. Also in the rest of the world, but not as delusional or widespread. Here in Spain we at least we can compare to all systems, pretty much. We invented WWII after all. And it was going on here, up to a certain point, even before fascism became a thing in Italy.
    I insist because I've had many discussions online with pretty educated and rational Americans who would show to be simply deluded under certain arguments and realities only due to that veeeeeery hard propaganda they've lived under for their whole lives. Which applies to the American "left" too except for people considered as "radical" everywhere, like this community I suppose. So beware. This isn't new. No country has ever been as fascistic in the marxist sense as America is now. The Nazis didn't live in a global society with internet, big data and AI. And in the end, even though many Americans react to opinions such as mine with a nationalistic "who's asked you, you foreigner", the world is global and I live in the same machine. I suppose that's why we Europeans can be so arrogant with yanks online. There's some messages Americans so totally need to get from us for humanity's sake and the machine doesn't let you get totally out of Plato's cavern.
    I am optimistic, though. The youth is waking up slowly. Trump and such are just a reaction to it, IMO. And the fuckers are deemed to die off and lose. But we gotta fight for that. I applaud the efforts of this channel as education is absolutely necessary for that end and I can't think of a better 101 format than the one I see in this videos. There's no better form of activism nowadays. Gotta fight propaganda with education and using the same technological tools. Congrats.

    • @rellie_90
      @rellie_90 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      This American believes you. Idk if that’s saying much though, since typically the most oppressed doesn’t get the option or luxury to opt out of reality, but some try. 🤷🏾‍♀️

    • @mannysilver211
      @mannysilver211 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Well said my friend, well said.If only more over here had your kind of perspective.But then I guess they would be new here wouldn't they?Anyway hope you have a good week.

    • @traposucio2944
      @traposucio2944 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@rellie_90 sure! There's still relative freedom and relative access to information. It's not like here, that I can access about half public university libraries content in Europe for free, got (nearly, tho. I am still exploited) a Law degree just because I wanted and such, but the internet is quite something when you are critical and know how to research. Much of my education comes from American moocs, tbh. I don't think there would be an antiwork movement in the US without the internet, for instance. Or a Bernie. And that's massive. When the first international met, they couldn't have dreamt of something like that. As I said, the fuckers are about to die off, for sure! And allow me being a bit cynical for a bit, but your point about the tendency of the oppressed to see reality is a horrible fact and yet makes me feel optimistic nowadays. Isn't pretty much all the world's population clearly oppressed now? The disappearance or reduction of privileged white middle classes in America and Europe has a lot to do with the so called "woke" trend of trying to understand and feel empathy towards oppressed groups that were the main radical activists before, like ethnic and racial minorities, LGTB and so on. Things look pretty promising to me, in a way. Let me take god out of the equation here and say that progress acts in mysterious ways. Not sure if that makes any sense. We just gotta fight, be coherent and educate our kids properly. Every purchase is a vote too, as it was brilliantly explained in the carbon footprint video.

  • @haroldalston3349
    @haroldalston3349 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This video was so insightful I'm glad I stumbled upon it

  • @elpmasnet
    @elpmasnet ปีที่แล้ว +1

    And I only like your video, but I’m also enlightened by it, and I also appreciate it

  • @85CCM75
    @85CCM75 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    As a joke I thought I would just post a comment saying this is all Reagan’s fault and lo and behold it was bro I can’t how many things that Reagan has fucked up

  • @nastynate534
    @nastynate534 2 ปีที่แล้ว +86

    Bro, we don't perfectly mesh on every subject, but your work is so clever, and so in-depth, incredibley well organized, orated and with such integrity.... keep up the awesome work! Thank you.
    P.S.- the new editing is fun.

    • @SecondThought
      @SecondThought  2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      Hey, thanks so much! I’m glad you enjoy it

    • @kholeka8475
      @kholeka8475 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SecondThought Nelson Mandela got caught and send to prison, because the CIA told the South African Government where he was hiding.

  • @thomasb.smithjr.8401
    @thomasb.smithjr.8401 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    'Now that he is safely dead, we can yet praise him, can't we ? For the dead make such convenient heroes. We can make them say whatever we wish them to speak, since they cannot rise up to refute it. Nor can they debunk or clarify what the history books may write. After all, it is far, far easier to build a monument to a man than it is to build a movement.'

  • @elijahclaude3413
    @elijahclaude3413 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    It's channels and videos like this that inspires me to keep going learning about what it means to be 'left' and continue critiquing the american (and global) indoctrination of history. Absolutely love it!!

  • @theaccountable
    @theaccountable 2 ปีที่แล้ว +58

    Black liberation is THE PEOPLES liberation. You restore society from the bottom up.
    From now on it's Black Future Month ✊🏽

    • @ah_libra
      @ah_libra 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      One thing the racists and greedy corporatists don't understand is that "a house divided amongst itself cannot stand." If the bottom of the hierarchy is ailing, it's going to reach the "top" of the hierarchy eventually.

    • @Y0utubeIsFuckingHomo
      @Y0utubeIsFuckingHomo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@ah_libra A rising tide does not life all boats if the boats were not made equally.

    • @ah_libra
      @ah_libra 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Y0utubeIsFuckingHomo Facts!!! And knowing America's history, we all know many "boats" were sabotaged and and intentionally set up to "sink."

    • @bruhinator5756
      @bruhinator5756 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ah_libra And then we get to start all over. So much for “progress”.

    • @Nai-qk4vp
      @Nai-qk4vp 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ah_libra That's the thing about pyramids. You take the top piece off, nothing happens, you take a bottom piece and it all comes down. So you keeo the bottom of the pyramid, afraid, fed and distracted enough so they will not gang up on you and rip your nuts off.

  • @kommit-456
    @kommit-456 2 ปีที่แล้ว +91

    Hey there Second thought, I’m a conservative (as of now) who wants to learn about socialism and I must say that your videos are very informative and I appreciate that have a nice day Second thought and second thought fans

    • @GeistInTheMachine
      @GeistInTheMachine 2 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      A conservative named Commie Penguin? That's the internet for you.
      Edit: Does anyone know if the video creator is ACTUALLY a Socialist or just a Social Democrat? In America, that becomes interchangeable because they don't nuance worth a damn.

    • @SgtLion
      @SgtLion 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Respect for branching out and learning about things outside yer own alignment. Given the actual class consciousness exhibited by the creator, I think we can say relatively certainly that they are some form of socialist.

    • @TheMrQuepe
      @TheMrQuepe 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@GeistInTheMachine he's a marxist-leninist

    • @just_some_random_guy3133
      @just_some_random_guy3133 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@evanmurphy5874 full on communist, it is quite visible is his podcast

    • @kmtgoddess7793
      @kmtgoddess7793 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      One of the best ways to think of capitalism vs communism is would u rather work 8hrs for a wage u may be able to live on and use 90 percent of it to pay bills. Or would u rather work 15hrs a week in a job or jobs you like and have free access to everything in the community. This includes free healthcare housing education child services elderly services

  • @twinjones4
    @twinjones4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you. Please continue what you are doing

  • @michaelgambles6771
    @michaelgambles6771 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow! Thank you for producing this.

  • @TheLittlebut
    @TheLittlebut 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    It also somewhat makes me sad that even if we upgrade and improve our textbooks to be more up-to-date, plenty of public schools across the US either are unable to or are unwilling to update their textbooks. I remember my textbooks in high school being ones from the 70-80s, so I can clearly see where the disconnect come from older teachings vs what I’ve been learning in Uni and on social media. It shouldn’t be surprising that defunding the education department really disappoints younger generations (as a baby millennial/old genz; 1997) by neglecting to stay relevant.

  • @whyphy2213
    @whyphy2213 2 ปีที่แล้ว +71

    I learned alot more about black history from listening to Akala songs, Dead Prez songs and Immortal Technique songs. They are more than what schools teach us.
    Second Thoughts always make good videos

    • @kmtgoddess7793
      @kmtgoddess7793 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Nas i can 3rd verse is really good too

    • @yangasidziya3245
      @yangasidziya3245 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kmtgoddess7793 That 3rd verse went over our heads when we are kids, but educated us alot as teens

  • @sebastianpeady5850
    @sebastianpeady5850 ปีที่แล้ว

    Back watching this a year later because it's just so good

  • @p.loveConLimonYSal
    @p.loveConLimonYSal ปีที่แล้ว

    God this is heartbreaking. Thank you for making this.❤

  • @andersonneil2293
    @andersonneil2293 2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    I'd love more on Malcolm X, and I guess that means I need to do independent research. When I was growing up he was portrayed as "evil" MLK, like killmonger from black panther

    • @nonconformist9930
      @nonconformist9930 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      🤣🤣🤣 because to racists and imperialists that excatly what he was. he was a direct threat to their power in a way few other people were. having said that, there are two distinct X identities when he went to mecca. the X that returned was more polished, refined and astute having learned he had been deceived by the nation of islam and taught to hate. X is complex, your going to have to read a lot about him to wrap your head around him. but he was always on point once he "woke" up pre or post mecca

  • @adamsmith5207
    @adamsmith5207 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    6'1" dandruff flake to describe Ronald Reagan is my new favorite thing ever.

  • @robertschmus9943
    @robertschmus9943 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Amazing mini doc!! Well done, Second Thought!!

  • @54dks2447
    @54dks2447 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You learn something new every day: Thank you!😊😊😊