Every animal is a vicious murderer. Moose kill more people in Canada every year than bears or cougars, combined probably. Chimps cannibalize enemy chimp babies. Dolphins gang rape female dolphins. Nature is brutal.
With that thinking, may i suggest the following video of the "casual geographic" channel?:th-cam.com/video/BJel-OwGCtw/w-d-xo.html We humans aren't among the top "homicidal" animals on our planet, even considering WW1 and 2! (If you do the calculation of how big the population was and how many died ect. as surprising as it sounds we are not the most violent ones.)
The description about mustard gas being tested before WW1 seems wrong. Mustard gas was develloped in germany after the french had used tear gas (relatively uneffectively) during WW1 not before. So the testing and devellopment did not occur months before WW1 started but after. Also about WW2: the USSR by the time germany attacked them had attacked poland from the east and taken the other half (the other half of what germany took) and the USSR had attacked Finland. So they were not "non intervening".
Also the soviet's were planning on invading Germany as well, just in 1943/44. Hitler beat them to the punch. Also the US wasn't gonna get involved with the European conflict due to how close US Congress was with Germany at the time.
@@ValacircaTN True; I had also read about the can food. I thought it was a lie, seriously, but they actually threw canned food that exploded into the German trenches. I hope this doesn't mean I am a horrible person for doing so but reading up on what the Canadians did and knowing how nice they are (from my own personal experience with Canadians) I couldn't help but smh and laugh.
So I'm not the only person to note some historical inconsistencies, but here's one that caught me: In a field battle during the Napoleonic era, the artillery wouldn't be using solid shot. Solid cannonballs would be fir use against naval vessels or fortifications. They would have used explosive shells which would explode above the enemy and rain down shrapnel. Then, when the enemy got closer, they would switch to grapeshot, which is essentially a shotgun.
WW2 in Europe was liberalism versus totalitarianism. Liberalism represented by the functioning democracies with civil rights, separation of powers. Totalitarianism represented by the governments of communism and fascism, both of which despised liberalism and democracy.
Why not another 50 to 80 years of observation? But that could be put to a better use as the beginning of a part 2. (The real reason for dumping the SaturnV rocket ;•). *🚀🏴☠️🎸*
The Zombie Army happened at this time a large group of French soldiers for gas and they knew that they were dead so they climbed out of the trenches and charged the Germans and they had all the burns and scars in the Terrible Things That mustard gas does to a human they were The Walking Dead this is a true story
That was a terrifying tale made even worse by the fact that the story was, embarrassingly and disgracefully, was our own.!!😣😖😵😯😧😮💥😲😳😬😬😬😬😬🙄🙄 What impression would we make on a n alien race.?? I cannot think of a single thing that I would hold up them that would say to them, " see !!, this is what makes us unique and special enough to be further uplifted by said alien race".!! It makes me feel very, very sad😢😭 for Earth. 👽🖖
Meh, I give this one a 2/10 This was a bit of a wasted story. They ate scones on their space station for centuries, but they never figured out how to synthesize bread until the 20th century? If I wanted to learn about medieval warfare, the American Civil War, or WW1 and WW2, there are plenty of channels for that already. And aliens being so unaware of the creative atrocities of war is an unbelievable premise. If it was told with more alien perspectives and terminology and references then maybe it would've been worth listening to.
Stay with me for a moment... Ritualistic warfare, where even the combat is nothing but a glorified stage show, is not unknown. In Mesoamerica, there was a time when (put simply) a couple of armies would line up, shake their weapons at each other, maybe have a couple of 1 on 1 duels and a minor scuffle with melee weapons (ranged weapons were only used in what we would call real war), then they would exchange hostages/prisoners and everyone would leave. Extremely ritualized, in plain sight and with the minimum of bloodshed. I am describing the so-called flower wars of the Aztecs. They of course did engage in what we think of as proper/real war, but had this secondary form of warfare as well. It might be hard to reconcile it with what we consider warfare to be today, but thats just it. What we consider to be warfare today, is what we consider warfare to be today. Not yesterday, not tomorrow and not anyone else. Just us, today. Now, if you take that basic idea and run with it, it isn't hard to imagine an entire planetwide civilization that has been shaped for the longest time by that type of warfare. To the point where other ways of waging war are nothing but stories or entirely forgotten. I can accept that an isolated alien race could develop such a society. That is fine by me. What I cannot accept is that any species with the ability to move between the stars to observe others would think their way is the only way. As that very act of observation implies that whatever they are observing, is an unknown of some degree. A big problem I have with so many of these stories is that they seem to start with an idea and then shoehorn tons that the writer really has no clue about into the story created around that idea. To the point they end up a mess like this one. So many of these stories have a core idea or ideas that could make for a good story, but like you say, are wasted.
btw, I like the juxtaposition of sci-fi and history, in theory anyways. At the very least, writing from the perspective of an outsider is a great exercise. If done well (unlike this story), such writing can be a way to open up the realm of real history to someone who has otherwise shunned it. As the great stories from history are at least as interesting as the great stories from fiction, if not moreso (e.g. march of the ten thousand) Also, you can't tell me it wouldn't be awesome to actually get an aliens perspective on the Battle of Cannae, along with some actual footage of the battle.
Honestly, I'm up voting this because it's a non-ai-generated story. The story itself is pretty bad, and feels like a seed of many bad AI-generated stories. Peachy with bad history and weird knowledge gaps (they have scones, and know the word bayonet, but haven't picked up a single book) Generally a well written inconsistently researched but ultimately bad story. And one more thing - there was no 60 year peace before world war one.
This story clearly perceives why more advanced alien species would not have any motivation to contact humans. Especially when channels like this one revel in the thought of extending human brutality to life among the stars
Was everybody trying to guess the different years they were describing? As they were describing each of the conflicts. I'm a bit of a history nerd so I was like trying to find all of the different moments and match them to the year of the conflict.
this makes me realize that there are not many species on Earth that will fight to the death amongst themselves. Are we the violent ones? lol
Every animal is a vicious murderer.
Moose kill more people in Canada every year than bears or cougars, combined probably.
Chimps cannibalize enemy chimp babies.
Dolphins gang rape female dolphins.
Nature is brutal.
With that thinking, may i suggest the following video of the "casual geographic" channel?:th-cam.com/video/BJel-OwGCtw/w-d-xo.html
We humans aren't among the top "homicidal" animals on our planet, even considering WW1 and 2!
(If you do the calculation of how big the population was and how many died ect. as surprising as it sounds we are not the most violent ones.)
@@nirfz Thanks for that video, I wouldn't of suspected the number one animal to be that lol.
@@brianallen1839 :-) me neither.
Nope, not even close. We are by far the least violent primate.
The description about mustard gas being tested before WW1 seems wrong. Mustard gas was develloped in germany after the french had used tear gas (relatively uneffectively) during WW1 not before.
So the testing and devellopment did not occur months before WW1 started but after.
Also about WW2: the USSR by the time germany attacked them had attacked poland from the east and taken the other half (the other half of what germany took) and the USSR had attacked Finland.
So they were not "non intervening".
@@dennisivan85and "smoke pots"
Also the soviet's were planning on invading Germany as well, just in 1943/44. Hitler beat them to the punch.
Also the US wasn't gonna get involved with the European conflict due to how close US Congress was with Germany at the time.
The Christmas ceasefire between Britain Germany true story
iirc Germany approached the Canadian lines for another attempted Christmas ceasefire but was attacked instead.
@@brianallen1839 what on Christmas Day!!! I laughed, but sad really they were just a normal man stuck fighting
@@brianallen1839 canada didn't take german prisonner during ww1 there is a good reason for that
@@ValacircaTN True; I had also read about the can food. I thought it was a lie, seriously, but they actually threw canned food that exploded into the German trenches. I hope this doesn't mean I am a horrible person for doing so but reading up on what the Canadians did and knowing how nice they are (from my own personal experience with Canadians) I couldn't help but smh and laugh.
@@ValacircaTN Which is?
Hang in there, we ain't done trying to resolve ourselves 😂
Whoever wrote this story has a 13yo perspective of war and history, its sad how consistently incorrect it was
which maybe the targeted viewer age or intellect.
@@Curtislow2 In this day and age... You just might be correct.
Ai with a MARXist slant. condemns Fascism but can't even mention the USSR
May you give some examples
I gave up part way through. The historical inaccuracies were amateur level.
So I'm not the only person to note some historical inconsistencies, but here's one that caught me:
In a field battle during the Napoleonic era, the artillery wouldn't be using solid shot. Solid cannonballs would be fir use against naval vessels or fortifications.
They would have used explosive shells which would explode above the enemy and rain down shrapnel. Then, when the enemy got closer, they would switch to grapeshot, which is essentially a shotgun.
Aliens invented scones is legendary tier humor
Wow!!!! I mean this was a great story blending in WWI and WWII into a sci fi story. I loved it.
Dam this was a really Deep story i listened to the whole thing.
Time traveling observatory? That would explain the lifespans of the observers.
Amazing history lesson from the eyes of an aliens perspective. 👍🏽👍🏼
WW2 in Europe was liberalism versus totalitarianism. Liberalism represented by the functioning democracies with civil rights, separation of powers. Totalitarianism represented by the governments of communism and fascism, both of which despised liberalism and democracy.
Man, at least use a Wikipedia timeline for the things you're going to write about
Is there a part 2
Sounds like the Battle of Waterloo
Why not another 50 to 80 years of observation? But that could be put to a better use as the beginning of a part 2. (The real reason for dumping the SaturnV rocket ;•).
*🚀🏴☠️🎸*
Lol I can sense american propaganda working on this poor American writer
The Zombie Army happened at this time a large group of French soldiers for gas and they knew that they were dead so they climbed out of the trenches and charged the Germans and they had all the burns and scars in the Terrible Things That mustard gas does to a human they were The Walking Dead this is a true story
they were Russians not French, also the story of Osowiec fortress its a very real one
August 6th, 1915 Osowiec fortress. An incredible counter attack where the fallen through sheer will went back into the fight
That was a terrifying tale made even worse by the fact that the story was, embarrassingly and disgracefully, was our own.!!😣😖😵😯😧😮💥😲😳😬😬😬😬😬🙄🙄
What impression would we make on a n alien race.?? I cannot think of a single thing that I would hold up them that would say to them, " see !!, this is what makes us unique and special enough to be further uplifted by said alien race".!!
It makes me feel very, very sad😢😭 for Earth.
👽🖖
Crappy tale
Either aliens have short term memories or live so long that one year is equivalent to fifty galactic years.
Yeah, IK it feels so weird how d-day and the battle for Berlin happend within like ten seconds of one another😂
Meh, I give this one a 2/10
This was a bit of a wasted story.
They ate scones on their space station for centuries, but they never figured out how to synthesize bread until the 20th century?
If I wanted to learn about medieval warfare, the American Civil War, or WW1 and WW2, there are plenty of channels for that already.
And aliens being so unaware of the creative atrocities of war is an unbelievable premise.
If it was told with more alien perspectives and terminology and references then maybe it would've been worth listening to.
Stay with me for a moment...
Ritualistic warfare, where even the combat is nothing but a glorified stage show, is not unknown. In Mesoamerica, there was a time when (put simply) a couple of armies would line up, shake their weapons at each other, maybe have a couple of 1 on 1 duels and a minor scuffle with melee weapons (ranged weapons were only used in what we would call real war), then they would exchange hostages/prisoners and everyone would leave. Extremely ritualized, in plain sight and with the minimum of bloodshed.
I am describing the so-called flower wars of the Aztecs. They of course did engage in what we think of as proper/real war, but had this secondary form of warfare as well. It might be hard to reconcile it with what we consider warfare to be today, but thats just it. What we consider to be warfare today, is what we consider warfare to be today. Not yesterday, not tomorrow and not anyone else. Just us, today.
Now, if you take that basic idea and run with it, it isn't hard to imagine an entire planetwide civilization that has been shaped for the longest time by that type of warfare. To the point where other ways of waging war are nothing but stories or entirely forgotten. I can accept that an isolated alien race could develop such a society. That is fine by me. What I cannot accept is that any species with the ability to move between the stars to observe others would think their way is the only way. As that very act of observation implies that whatever they are observing, is an unknown of some degree.
A big problem I have with so many of these stories is that they seem to start with an idea and then shoehorn tons that the writer really has no clue about into the story created around that idea. To the point they end up a mess like this one. So many of these stories have a core idea or ideas that could make for a good story, but like you say, are wasted.
btw, I like the juxtaposition of sci-fi and history, in theory anyways. At the very least, writing from the perspective of an outsider is a great exercise. If done well (unlike this story), such writing can be a way to open up the realm of real history to someone who has otherwise shunned it. As the great stories from history are at least as interesting as the great stories from fiction, if not moreso (e.g. march of the ten thousand)
Also, you can't tell me it wouldn't be awesome to actually get an aliens perspective on the Battle of Cannae, along with some actual footage of the battle.
I think the South African tribes before chaka zulu did as well (based on watching an American mini series 30-40 years ago)
The first rocket did not fall on Paris but on London!!
Better editor is greatly needed. Learning the difference between ideal and idea would help also.
Not quite sure how they knew what the word for bayonets was, in an uncontacted race pre-radio broadcasts
Honestly, I'm up voting this because it's a non-ai-generated story. The story itself is pretty bad, and feels like a seed of many bad AI-generated stories. Peachy with bad history and weird knowledge gaps (they have scones, and know the word bayonet, but haven't picked up a single book)
Generally a well written inconsistently researched but ultimately bad story.
And one more thing - there was no 60 year peace before world war one.
No radio intercepts? I guess they missed ussr , famine Purge and invasion of Finland
Bit preachy
This story clearly perceives why more advanced alien species would not have any motivation to contact humans. Especially when channels like this one revel in the thought of extending human brutality to life among the stars
21:18 1914 Christmas in Europe
Was everybody trying to guess the different years they were describing? As they were describing each of the conflicts. I'm a bit of a history nerd so I was like trying to find all of the different moments and match them to the year of the conflict.
Battle 2 sounded like Waterloo.
Or a USA civil war battle. Same tech.