That's what I was just thinking they shouldn't be doing. I was thinking, "There goes the non-thinking USA Zombie approach to fireplaying! "we going in.!!!!!!!"
@JB91710 It's a single storey wooden dwelling with fire coming out of every window and the roof. It's upwards of 1100 degrees inside and nothing to be saved so why would you risk firefighters lives for nothing. Madness.
27 and 12 both were. One of those days lol. In the video you can hear at one point 30, 7, and I think engine 15 get another reported house fire nearby around Lockwood and Lyons. That wasn’t working
It happens all the time but they did get the pressure they needed as far as I can tell. It really rarely happens to have a kink like that but it depends on how you stretch it, how close your truck is to the hydrant, and the hose placement. Those supply lines are heavy dry and way heavier wet. So like I said if you can’t get the proper intake pressure then you address the supply line and if you’re by yourself to move it grab a civilian to help drag it so you’re not straining or injuring yourself. 9 times out of 10 a civilian is always willing to help in anyway possible.
And what was the purpose here??? The house is clearly untenable for anyone still inside, and it's clearly already structurally unstable. This should've been a defensive fire until it was completely knocked down, and an assessment of the structural stability can be made. Why are we risking lives to save nothing??
@@ffjsb I’ve said this many times and I’ll say it here and I’m not here to argue I’m just trying to help people understand that every fire department does things differently. The purpose was likely to reduce heat and flames as quickly as possible to prevent any spread of fire. And every structure fire you go to always think and ask… Is it truly unoccupied? Is there any signs of possible occupancy?… always assume there could be life inside and if you can get to them safely and quickly even if the structure is unsafe there’s a lot of different tactics and procedures that you will find everywhere. Like I said earlier I’m just trying to help people understand better if tactics and decisions made by the fire department and I don’t look for any trouble and if we can’t agree that’s ok. Everyone has their own opinions and stand points on things so I hope you don’t find me trying to argue.
@@goldengaming7036 I only base my statements on 40 years on the job, and a major in Fire Science... There's absolutely NO reason to go interior on this house, because the conditions are completely unsurvivable for anyone that may have been inside.
@@ffjsb see 40yrs as full service and a fire science major now that’s impressive and I salute you. I did 4yrs as a Jr Firefighter and learned a whole lot in those 4yrs and I’m still learning. Like I said always think that life is a possibility inside. I do agree with you and I feel like they went in where they felt safer to try to knock it down quicker and prevent another building from going up. And honestly you and I weren’t there from the second the first apparatus arrived so it’s difficult to 100% understand what decisions and why those decisions were made. I mean if you look at the FDNY they’re known as the most aggressive Fire Department in America and I know that they would’ve possibly done something similar but I always see these videos and think what were they told to do and if command or an officer said to get in there and get it down quickly and be careful it’s something to learn from if something did happen. Now I know we both can agree that we weren’t there and don’t have all the facts and full visibility of what’s truly going on so we just hope that anytime something like this happens it’s a learning experience.
Most likely they knew it was vacant - might not have been the first time it burned. Also, given that it had as much advance time on it, it was very likely that if someone was in there, they wouldn't survive. This is a pretty run down part of the city. It's better days were in the 1920's and 1930's. It has been in a steady state of decline since. When 19's newer station was built, it was designed as a mini-training facility for surrounding stations. I have been there early in the year when it was cold and climbed the 6 flights of stairs to the top of the smoke tower. From up there looking around you could see a number of houses that were missing the siding in places and it was just covered in plastic. I asked one of the firemen why and he said that the people were so poor, that during the winter, they would peel siding off to take inside and burn for warmth. Then once summer came, the plastic would slowly come down and new siding would go up. Mad me sad. I had escaped that level of poverty when I was younger. I was allowed to climb the tower at the time because I was a volunteer in the Houston Fire Department. It was a small, barely known about part of the county civil defense system. 40 plus years later, I still have my gear, and due to someone doing an okay job of measuring, somehow it still fits.
@@hvfd5956 You attack every fire as if it were your home, everything you had was in there and you had no insurance. If nothing else, you are practicing your trade in a real-world environment. That's if you want to be a real firefighter. That pretty much doesn't exist in the USA and these videos prove that. Mediocrity rules!
@@williamedwards1528 You didn't read my last comment, did you. I suggest you do so I don't have to repeat myself like I have had to do for the past 14 years.
Currently training at Lonestar College Fire Academy. @1:40 in this video....much respect, stay safe out there!
Seeing tower 18 lean into that corner on Clinton Dr is amazing how good the suspension is.
Now that is some serious firefighting
Good. Job. God. Bless❤😊
Great job 👍
I like this department,we going in.!!!!!!!
Why ?
That's what I was just thinking they shouldn't be doing. I was thinking, "There goes the non-thinking USA Zombie approach to fireplaying! "we going in.!!!!!!!"
@@andyoxleyonhistravels Yeah, right? Aren't there enough windows to safely give them access? "Let's play hero and unnecessarily risk our lives!"
@JB91710 It's a single storey wooden dwelling with fire coming out of every window and the roof. It's upwards of 1100 degrees inside and nothing to be saved so why would you risk firefighters lives for nothing. Madness.
Don't compare to fdny though
This is a busy district!
Sick!
Fine job Lads. It's what we do. NEVER FORGET 343
Nice work everybody keep it up
The power of a 2.5 inch line blowing out the roof from the inside is impressive.
It’s a lot I’ve opened one at 1/4 of the pressure and I was like wtf 😂
That's an 1 3/4" line, not a 2.5.
You don't do an attack with a 2.5 it would be way to much to haul around. A 1.5 or 1 3/4 is what they used.
@@timeversman9804 You can do an INITIAL attack and knockdown with a 2 1/5, but then use the 1 3/4 to go interior.
@@scooterdog13 A fireman runs a boiler, a firefighter fights fires...
E-12 and E-27 should have both been on this box before E-9. Unless both were assigned other incidents.
27 and 12 both were. One of those days lol. In the video you can hear at one point 30, 7, and I think engine 15 get another reported house fire nearby around Lockwood and Lyons. That wasn’t working
Can not believe they people into the house to put out the fire. Nothing could be done. Fight the fire from the windows.
Now this is what I like to see. Aggressive interior fire attack. Hate seeing kinks in supply lines.
It happens all the time but they did get the pressure they needed as far as I can tell. It really rarely happens to have a kink like that but it depends on how you stretch it, how close your truck is to the hydrant, and the hose placement. Those supply lines are heavy dry and way heavier wet. So like I said if you can’t get the proper intake pressure then you address the supply line and if you’re by yourself to move it grab a civilian to help drag it so you’re not straining or injuring yourself. 9 times out of 10 a civilian is always willing to help in anyway possible.
And what was the purpose here??? The house is clearly untenable for anyone still inside, and it's clearly already structurally unstable. This should've been a defensive fire until it was completely knocked down, and an assessment of the structural stability can be made. Why are we risking lives to save nothing??
@@ffjsb I’ve said this many times and I’ll say it here and I’m not here to argue I’m just trying to help people understand that every fire department does things differently. The purpose was likely to reduce heat and flames as quickly as possible to prevent any spread of fire. And every structure fire you go to always think and ask… Is it truly unoccupied? Is there any signs of possible occupancy?… always assume there could be life inside and if you can get to them safely and quickly even if the structure is unsafe there’s a lot of different tactics and procedures that you will find everywhere. Like I said earlier I’m just trying to help people understand better if tactics and decisions made by the fire department and I don’t look for any trouble and if we can’t agree that’s ok. Everyone has their own opinions and stand points on things so I hope you don’t find me trying to argue.
@@goldengaming7036 I only base my statements on 40 years on the job, and a major in Fire Science...
There's absolutely NO reason to go interior on this house, because the conditions are completely unsurvivable for anyone that may have been inside.
@@ffjsb see 40yrs as full service and a fire science major now that’s impressive and I salute you. I did 4yrs as a Jr Firefighter and learned a whole lot in those 4yrs and I’m still learning. Like I said always think that life is a possibility inside. I do agree with you and I feel like they went in where they felt safer to try to knock it down quicker and prevent another building from going up. And honestly you and I weren’t there from the second the first apparatus arrived so it’s difficult to 100% understand what decisions and why those decisions were made. I mean if you look at the FDNY they’re known as the most aggressive Fire Department in America and I know that they would’ve possibly done something similar but I always see these videos and think what were they told to do and if command or an officer said to get in there and get it down quickly and be careful it’s something to learn from if something did happen. Now I know we both can agree that we weren’t there and don’t have all the facts and full visibility of what’s truly going on so we just hope that anytime something like this happens it’s a learning experience.
Will need the carpets shampoo'd and some new shingles for sure
I wish you could catch 45’s house
With him trapped
@@psdesert7907 bad karma coming your way.
102 Daron Walk
Another kink in a supply line what gives?
Omg
Any less hustle and I would have fallen fast asleep!
No doubt, they were in slow motion mode.
Most likely they knew it was vacant - might not have been the first time it burned. Also, given that it had as much advance time on it, it was very likely that if someone was in there, they wouldn't survive. This is a pretty run down part of the city. It's better days were in the 1920's and 1930's. It has been in a steady state of decline since. When 19's newer station was built, it was designed as a mini-training facility for surrounding stations. I have been there early in the year when it was cold and climbed the 6 flights of stairs to the top of the smoke tower. From up there looking around you could see a number of houses that were missing the siding in places and it was just covered in plastic. I asked one of the firemen why and he said that the people were so poor, that during the winter, they would peel siding off to take inside and burn for warmth. Then once summer came, the plastic would slowly come down and new siding would go up. Mad me sad. I had escaped that level of poverty when I was younger. I was allowed to climb the tower at the time because I was a volunteer in the Houston Fire Department. It was a small, barely known about part of the county civil defense system. 40 plus years later, I still have my gear, and due to someone doing an okay job of measuring, somehow it still fits.
@@hvfd5956 You attack every fire as if it were your home, everything you had was in there and you had no insurance. If nothing else, you are practicing your trade in a real-world environment. That's if you want to be a real firefighter. That pretty much doesn't exist in the USA and these videos prove that. Mediocrity rules!
@@JB91710 The house was a total loss before they got there
@@williamedwards1528 You didn't read my last comment, did you. I suggest you do so I don't have to repeat myself like I have had to do for the past 14 years.