I do believe the Book of Ruin has a section on letting one of the 6 main factions become Chaos/GeneStealer aligned. The Stealer alignment allows for your leader to have a Wyrd power and your Juves to join with 3 arms!
Correction at 8:08 : The Book of Ruin actually DOES give you rules for a normal gang becoming tainted by genestealer cult! Page 12: you can have a Goliath genestealer gang with a psychic leader, 0-1 aberrants and access to three-armed juves.
Same with Chaos corruption on the primary gangs. One of my friends over Discord apparently is having a blast with an Escher gang dedicated to Khorne for example.
Best way to start is by getting general rules online and clan reviews online to see which way you would like to go. As well the free PDFs for Chaos and Jeansstealer Cult are pretty good to get a feel, even if you don't want to play them.
The book of Peril sounds interesting, I'm having visions of a 40k western out on the barren hellscape of the surface. Maybe steal some rules for vehicles and go a bit Mad Max, but mainly I like the idea of warring bands, gangs, cartels and cults fighting for the soul of the wastes.
I was glad to see this video given i have spent the last few weeks trying to figure out what i need to play Necromunda without buying one of the box sets, because i have no interest in Corpse grinders, the Dark Uprising campaign or the included scenery. One thing this video misses out however, is what cards, tokens and dice are required and how to get them. I have the dice, but i have no idea how to get the required tokens and tactic cards.
I've debated it, but my biggest concern mostly comes down to how many books they've released. If you want everything currently you need the Rulebook, the Gang book, Book of Peril, Book of Law, Book of Ruin, and now with the current books teased, it looks like 6 more, one per original gang! That's up to 10 50-60 dollar purchases! I understand that you only need to buy one or two model set from it but on the other hand that's a lot of books. Maybe I'm just jaded so, after all, my current plan is catching up on the BSF expansions, and those are some pretty pennies too.
Also to correct Matt, the original Underhive War is still sold. 2 gangs (Goliath and Escher), Underhive tiles, the starter stuff like dice and templates, and a starter ruleset that's probably slightly more out of date compared to current one
Thank you so much for this video. Ive literally been stuck on what to buy as in the UK you can get both Underhive and Dark Uprising and i was confused if one book had updated rules etc. So thats cleared that up for me. I think in this case I'll go underhive as the gangs look more appealimg to me and its cheaper. Stay safe ❤️😊
I played the old game and i loved how i could customize my gang and especially how you rolled for what happened to your gangers, were able to capture territory and stuff in between games. Would i be disappointed if i bought the new one or is it still satisfying in those regards?
Thanks for this video. I believe the book of chains is out, so would like to see you do a review of it. Also, I'd like to see a video on how to run a Kill Team campaign. I see how to win, but I can't seem to find how you get points to replace or add to your team.
Great video. You should definitely do more of these. Especially under the circumstances. Quick question though. We bought the original box set from a few years ago where they reintroduced the game. Is the rule book from that box still valid, or the ones you show on this video updated versions of those older rules? Thank you. Love your work.
My understanding is that rulebook is obsolete - and you need the new hardcover rulebook. I was the same, and after getting the starter box (which is still great value) I got the new rulebook. I haven't compared them though.
Iam still unsure what you actually „need“ to play a game of Necromunda. I have the original boxset and the first gangwar book (both not mentioned in the vid), so do I need the new books or is there redundant info and rules in there? Like the vid and the idea is great but both products I assume most people bought when the where first released not mentioned at all :/
From what I've read online, the compiled rule book (the second book he picked up, the one with the escher gangers taking cover) has rules from gang war books 1-4 along with updates to the rules. So you could still play without that book if you have the original boxset, but there might be some balancing changes in the new book.
How does the cost compare to other Post Apocalyptic Skirmish games? I'm pretty sure Necromunda is the most expensive skirmish game, well, ever. I can't think of one skirmish game past or present that has a $150(US)+ basic buy-in.
Great video Matt! covered a bunch of stuff I was confused on. I did have one other question though, are the card packs needed? I've noticed some on ebay for quite a bit of money as alot of the sets are discontinued.
So here's the thing: the new "House of Chains" book acts as a sort of replacement for Gangs of the Underhive; in that every house gang will eventually have a sort of codex like House of Chains is the Goliath Codex. If you are just getting into the hobby now you just need a rulebook (How to play) and either Gangs of the Underhive/your House Book (Your gang composition, rules). HoC specifically lays the groundwork for a simplification of how the House Gangs work, including restricting weaponry by the fighters rank in the gang. Gangs of the Underhive, therefore, will be obsolete by the time the last house book comes out in a few years. For now it remains your main book for you gang composure unless you play Goliaths.
Is there a big difference between the existing rules for Goliaths in Gangs of the Underhive? Or does House of Chains just add new units, etc? Put another way, does House of Chains actually render the rules for Goliaths in Gangs of the Underhive obsolete?
@@callum5257 Sort of. It presents a brand new arrangement to the house list where every type of fighter has different access to the list. They also made it so we can buy Sump Krocs out the gate. It lets you count Prospects and Juves towards how many Champs/Leaders you can have, If they carries onto the rest of the books like I think it is, they are trying to get us to make more choices in gang creation.
@@robbiecousineau5595 Encouraging news. Glad it also didn't render the old rules useless. Sounds like you could keep playing with Gangs of the Underhive, but more options are available with House of Chains.
Question: If I have the older separate Gang War Books and the Delaque leaflet that came with the WD. Do these deviate from the Gangs of the Underhive Book and need Updates or is the Gangs of the Underhive basically just a reprint of the older separate books?
The Gangs of the Underhive book includes the Trading Post, so you’ll probably still want to buy it if you plan on running campaigns. If you’re just playing one-off games then you don’t need it.
If everyone in your group is using the original books then you're fine. If some have the newer hard covers there are enough differences in weapon profiles and campaign stuff that you will run into contradictions or completely different ways of doing something. We tried mixing the quasi-editions (2017 and 2018/19) in our group and it worked poorly.
At the moment I'm heavily debating what to get. I don't think the box is for me for a couple of reasons, I already have my Palanite Enforcers, I have no interest in corpse grinders, I don't really want to play the campaign and I plan to make my own scenery. So thinking just get a couple of the rule books. The big thing here is that that will limit my access to cards and templates, which isn't the end of the world I suppose.
so, why don't gamesworkshop work with PDF? I find ePub quite annoying to work with in whichever platform I'm using, and I've being distancing my self from Apple for quite a while now, so the Enhanced edition isn't really an option to me. I wonder why they don't work with PDF, which, as far as I know from a consumer-only point of view, is the best model to work with by a colossal margin
@@ApocryphalPress depends, they are quite easy to share around, but they are quite hard to edit, and most online shops that work with PDF will print your name on the pages on the PDF you bought, so if it gets pirated the company can just sue you for the ceasing profits caused by your piracy. It does take the effort of finding out pirated books and then initiating a judicial process though. I'm not sure if ePub s or "Enhanced Edition" (whatever format that is) are harder to share around, but I don't think they come with your name printed on them though
So if you have zero interest in the new box set (neither of the gangs), but don't have a playmat/board/counters. Whats the best way to get into the game? Or should you just buy the new box and try to sell the 2 gangs in it?
It’s tough because you can’t really buy the individual components unless you try eBay. I would still buy the starter boxes and attempt to sell the gangs.
Great miniatures but another game with to many books/rules etc costing you £€¥$¢. One Page Rules is simpler & way cheaper. For Necromunda: One Page Rules Firefight Gang Wars Enjoy. 😁
Theres a lot of great resources out there, especially on YakTribe for Necromunda, new and old. Downloaded the rules from there, built two frames of gangers (5 Delaque and 5 Escher) and got playing!
So i just did the math..if you wanna get all the necromunda stuff out there you're going to spend around 1000$. That's excluding the paints you'll need. Just the game, books and miniatures. As much as i'd like to play that game.. simply unaffordable for me. These prices are ridiculous.. holy shit..
@@tomryan3768 Really? I thought the cheapest possible route to playing this (assuming you already have minis) would be: download the community rulebook from Yaktribe (even if it is the OG '96 Edition, if you're against the legal issues of downloading the community edit of the current books) and play with proxied minis and the same terrain you use in any other skirmish game. Choosing the current edition and you wont even need to worry much about proxies since you can play them as venators - with that being the whole point of the venator rules. Honestly, the cheapest possible approach really isn't more expensive than literally any other game.
@@Lenriak I mean, just going on GW's other stuff, Farcry has far fewer expansions (as in not really any bonus all-encompassing rules I'm aware of) and if you have an existing AOS army you just got to buy the rules and a 10 buck statcard pack, and the original content's mostly self-contained. Killteam is kinda closer to Necro, but it's four books (rules/elites/commanders/annual patch) are at least mostly towards the lower end of the 40-60 dollars, Commanders is honestly skippable, and it's all 40k models in total with some odd exceptions, so most 40k players will have it and a basic box of models for most factions will fill you in for 100pts. I mean no matter how you look at it, GW's way to get money back on the skirmish games really is book prices, but I still say at least 3 books and some model variation are better than at least 6 books and one box of models
@@Lenriak the video is about the current edition. My comments are directly related to that. Do you think the current/in-print version of Necro is cheap? I think it is the most expensive skirmish game on the shelves today.
Finally someone did a vid like this.
Would love if you did a "how to play necromunda" series like you did with 40k in short episodes
I do believe the Book of Ruin has a section on letting one of the 6 main factions become Chaos/GeneStealer aligned. The Stealer alignment allows for your leader to have a Wyrd power and your Juves to join with 3 arms!
That is correct, for anyone looking for this rule, becoming chaos is on page 8 and becoming geanstealer is on page 12
This is great! I've been wanting to get into Necromunda for a while but wasn't sure where to begin so this is exactly the kind of thing I needed.
Correction at 8:08 : The Book of Ruin actually DOES give you rules for a normal gang becoming tainted by genestealer cult! Page 12: you can have a Goliath genestealer gang with a psychic leader, 0-1 aberrants and access to three-armed juves.
Same with Chaos corruption on the primary gangs. One of my friends over Discord apparently is having a blast with an Escher gang dedicated to Khorne for example.
Love to see more Necromunda!
Best way to start is by getting general rules online and clan reviews online to see which way you would like to go. As well the free PDFs for Chaos and Jeansstealer Cult are pretty good to get a feel, even if you don't want to play them.
Pretty wild that the release model for this game has been so appalling that a third party produced a video explaining 'how to buy Necromunda'.
As a copyright lawyer I confirm GW is less smooth than record companies where the first five (5)? years with music online.
10+ years later.
The book of Peril sounds interesting, I'm having visions of a 40k western out on the barren hellscape of the surface. Maybe steal some rules for vehicles and go a bit Mad Max, but mainly I like the idea of warring bands, gangs, cartels and cults fighting for the soul of the wastes.
Well you certainly will like the freedom, granted Gangs and Cults are really cool due to the depth of character, lore and characters.
What we NEED is more Crossbones. ;)
We need more crossbone cause The vest is best, but in more serious topic plz burn your dice vito, the ones you roll haught my dreams
Absolutely, cannot wait to see what happens next
HEY VEGEETA WHENS THE CAMPAIGN OUT!!!
I was glad to see this video given i have spent the last few weeks trying to figure out what i need to play Necromunda without buying one of the box sets, because i have no interest in Corpse grinders, the Dark Uprising campaign or the included scenery.
One thing this video misses out however, is what cards, tokens and dice are required and how to get them.
I have the dice, but i have no idea how to get the required tokens and tactic cards.
Please do more Necromunda videos!!! I love the batreps and campaigns
I've debated it, but my biggest concern mostly comes down to how many books they've released. If you want everything currently you need the Rulebook, the Gang book, Book of Peril, Book of Law, Book of Ruin, and now with the current books teased, it looks like 6 more, one per original gang! That's up to 10 50-60 dollar purchases! I understand that you only need to buy one or two model set from it but on the other hand that's a lot of books.
Maybe I'm just jaded so, after all, my current plan is catching up on the BSF expansions, and those are some pretty pennies too.
Also to correct Matt, the original Underhive War is still sold. 2 gangs (Goliath and Escher), Underhive tiles, the starter stuff like dice and templates, and a starter ruleset that's probably slightly more out of date compared to current one
The original box set rule books are obsolete. It's $200+ in books if you want everything to run a campaign
Thank you so much for this video. Ive literally been stuck on what to buy as in the UK you can get both Underhive and Dark Uprising and i was confused if one book had updated rules etc. So thats cleared that up for me. I think in this case I'll go underhive as the gangs look more appealimg to me and its cheaper.
Stay safe ❤️😊
I played the old game and i loved how i could customize my gang and especially how you rolled for what happened to your gangers, were able to capture territory and stuff in between games. Would i be disappointed if i bought the new one or is it still satisfying in those regards?
That is still there, rolling for territories, gear, injuries etc
Been wanting to get into Necromunda for a while, This video helps.
Bit late to the game, but I was able to get a hold of Dark Uprising. Still confused on what else I needed, but you've set me right. Thanks!
Thanks for this video. I believe the book of chains is out, so would like to see you do a review of it. Also, I'd like to see a video on how to run a Kill Team campaign. I see how to win, but I can't seem to find how you get points to replace or add to your team.
Great video. You should definitely do more of these. Especially under the circumstances. Quick question though. We bought the original box set from a few years ago where they reintroduced the game. Is the rule book from that box still valid, or the ones you show on this video updated versions of those older rules? Thank you. Love your work.
My understanding is that rulebook is obsolete - and you need the new hardcover rulebook. I was the same, and after getting the starter box (which is still great value) I got the new rulebook. I haven't compared them though.
Thank you. 😃
Maybe you could do a profile on each of the gangs? Would be cool to know what style each uses
Great idea, Goonhammer has a lot of tactics to read into. Yaktribes allows for some great gang design online.
How can you get the new rules with the scenarios and campaign if you want the $125 box set instead of the $290 box set?
Iam still unsure what you actually „need“ to play a game of Necromunda. I have the original boxset and the first gangwar book (both not mentioned in the vid), so do I need the new books or is there redundant info and rules in there? Like the vid and the idea is great but both products I assume most people bought when the where first released not mentioned at all :/
From what I've read online, the compiled rule book (the second book he picked up, the one with the escher gangers taking cover) has rules from gang war books 1-4 along with updates to the rules. So you could still play without that book if you have the original boxset, but there might be some balancing changes in the new book.
You're gonna need to spend another $200 in books if you want to run campaigns.
Time to hit and download the old original necromunda PDFs lol cheaper as well 😆😆
But what if you wouldn’t want the models in the boxed set? Is there an alternative?
Necromunda is the greatest example of GWs Book Bloat.
Please do a how to play necrominda series
Buy all the books and play a mega-campaign. Got it.
What about dice and cards?
How does the cost compare to other Post Apocalyptic Skirmish games? I'm pretty sure Necromunda is the most expensive skirmish game, well, ever.
I can't think of one skirmish game past or present that has a $150(US)+ basic buy-in.
Great video!
how do you go about gettign templates/dice if you don't do the big box set?
vlogging from your pantry is kind of a weird flex. You're rubbing in that you still have foodstuffs?
Great video Matt! covered a bunch of stuff I was confused on. I did have one other question though, are the card packs needed? I've noticed some on ebay for quite a bit of money as alot of the sets are discontinued.
So here's the thing: the new "House of Chains" book acts as a sort of replacement for Gangs of the Underhive; in that every house gang will eventually have a sort of codex like House of Chains is the Goliath Codex. If you are just getting into the hobby now you just need a rulebook (How to play) and either Gangs of the Underhive/your House Book (Your gang composition, rules). HoC specifically lays the groundwork for a simplification of how the House Gangs work, including restricting weaponry by the fighters rank in the gang.
Gangs of the Underhive, therefore, will be obsolete by the time the last house book comes out in a few years. For now it remains your main book for you gang composure unless you play Goliaths.
Is there a big difference between the existing rules for Goliaths in Gangs of the Underhive? Or does House of Chains just add new units, etc?
Put another way, does House of Chains actually render the rules for Goliaths in Gangs of the Underhive obsolete?
@@callum5257 Sort of. It presents a brand new arrangement to the house list where every type of fighter has different access to the list. They also made it so we can buy Sump Krocs out the gate.
It lets you count Prospects and Juves towards how many Champs/Leaders you can have, If they carries onto the rest of the books like I think it is, they are trying to get us to make more choices in gang creation.
@@robbiecousineau5595 Encouraging news. Glad it also didn't render the old rules useless. Sounds like you could keep playing with Gangs of the Underhive, but more options are available with House of Chains.
Question: If I have the older separate Gang War Books and the Delaque leaflet that came with the WD. Do these deviate from the Gangs of the Underhive Book and need Updates or is the Gangs of the Underhive basically just a reprint of the older separate books?
The Gangs of the Underhive book includes the Trading Post, so you’ll probably still want to buy it if you plan on running campaigns. If you’re just playing one-off games then you don’t need it.
If everyone in your group is using the original books then you're fine. If some have the newer hard covers there are enough differences in weapon profiles and campaign stuff that you will run into contradictions or completely different ways of doing something. We tried mixing the quasi-editions (2017 and 2018/19) in our group and it worked poorly.
So?? What about under hives ???
The big question, what you playing as on ESO?
At the moment I'm heavily debating what to get. I don't think the box is for me for a couple of reasons, I already have my Palanite Enforcers, I have no interest in corpse grinders, I don't really want to play the campaign and I plan to make my own scenery. So thinking just get a couple of the rule books. The big thing here is that that will limit my access to cards and templates, which isn't the end of the world I suppose.
Looking at the back, I see lots of beans, canned food and two rebreathers? Damn, some questions there lol
Hoping to see this for killteam and warcry
This is the best tabletop game out there
very cool! and necessary video!!
so, why don't gamesworkshop work with PDF? I find ePub quite annoying to work with in whichever platform I'm using, and I've being distancing my self from Apple for quite a while now, so the Enhanced edition isn't really an option to me. I wonder why they don't work with PDF, which, as far as I know from a consumer-only point of view, is the best model to work with by a colossal margin
Marcelo Silveira I’m probably completely wrong, but aren’t PDF’s really easy to pirate?
@@ApocryphalPress depends, they are quite easy to share around, but they are quite hard to edit, and most online shops that work with PDF will print your name on the pages on the PDF you bought, so if it gets pirated the company can just sue you for the ceasing profits caused by your piracy. It does take the effort of finding out pirated books and then initiating a judicial process though. I'm not sure if ePub s or "Enhanced Edition" (whatever format that is) are harder to share around, but I don't think they come with your name printed on them though
I had problems with the epub files too, not very reliable, but the Kobo reader app seems to work with them.
So if you have zero interest in the new box set (neither of the gangs), but don't have a playmat/board/counters. Whats the best way to get into the game?
Or should you just buy the new box and try to sell the 2 gangs in it?
It’s tough because you can’t really buy the individual components unless you try eBay. I would still buy the starter boxes and attempt to sell the gangs.
Mind doing kill team next ?
Thx.
I am sure it’s a great game like age of Sigmar but I am only a 40k player and old school talisman
Спасибо за видео, есть представления зачем и с чего стартовать)
first time this has been explained... lol most people have said you need all the books...
Great miniatures but another game with to many books/rules etc costing you £€¥$¢.
One Page Rules is simpler & way cheaper. For Necromunda:
One Page Rules Firefight
Gang Wars
Enjoy.
😁
Cheaper to down load the original Necromunda game rules lol 😆😆
Theres a lot of great resources out there, especially on YakTribe for Necromunda, new and old. Downloaded the rules from there, built two frames of gangers (5 Delaque and 5 Escher) and got playing!
Money Pit
So i just did the math..if you wanna get all the necromunda stuff out there you're going to spend around 1000$. That's excluding the paints you'll need. Just the game, books and miniatures. As much as i'd like to play that game.. simply unaffordable for me. These prices are ridiculous.. holy shit..
$200 just to get rules... Easy pass
Most of the cost is for all the plastic terrain, more than GW has ever put into a single box.
Even if you skimp in buying ALL the books this is the most expensive Skirmish game being produced today.
@@tomryan3768 Really? I thought the cheapest possible route to playing this (assuming you already have minis) would be: download the community rulebook from Yaktribe (even if it is the OG '96 Edition, if you're against the legal issues of downloading the community edit of the current books) and play with proxied minis and the same terrain you use in any other skirmish game. Choosing the current edition and you wont even need to worry much about proxies since you can play them as venators - with that being the whole point of the venator rules.
Honestly, the cheapest possible approach really isn't more expensive than literally any other game.
@@Lenriak I mean, just going on GW's other stuff, Farcry has far fewer expansions (as in not really any bonus all-encompassing rules I'm aware of) and if you have an existing AOS army you just got to buy the rules and a 10 buck statcard pack, and the original content's mostly self-contained. Killteam is kinda closer to Necro, but it's four books (rules/elites/commanders/annual patch) are at least mostly towards the lower end of the 40-60 dollars, Commanders is honestly skippable, and it's all 40k models in total with some odd exceptions, so most 40k players will have it and a basic box of models for most factions will fill you in for 100pts.
I mean no matter how you look at it, GW's way to get money back on the skirmish games really is book prices, but I still say at least 3 books and some model variation are better than at least 6 books and one box of models
@@Lenriak the video is about the current edition. My comments are directly related to that. Do you think the current/in-print version of Necro is cheap? I think it is the most expensive skirmish game on the shelves today.
Omg, first comment. Also thanks for this invaluable information video.
So wierd watching covid videos from a free state where we never locked down or had mask MANdates.