I don't really believe that I have ever heard such an amazing and sublime sound, on violin. Absolutely sublime violin playing. Pianist, is very pure magic, as she always is!!!!!!!!
Franck Violin Sonata: 00:21 - I. Allegretto ben moderato 06:33 - II. Allegro 14:16 - III. Ben moderato: Recitativo-Fantasia 21:38 - IV. Allegretto poco mosso
To be too critical and finding fault to satisfy your own taste takes the joy out of your music, I just sit back and enjoy their music! They both played beautifully! 💓
C'est tout de même merveilleux de voir de tels immenses artistes se donner mutuellement du temps, s'écouter avec une minutie, une attention passionnées à suspendre le souffle, puis se provoquer, se soulever mutuellement de terre par des tsunamis, sans jamais chercher à dominer l'autre mais toujours en jouant ensemble, comme des enfants ivres de joie et de liberté. Comment ne pas en être complètement ébloui ? Ce concert en plus est extraordinairement bien filmé - et enregistré.
Тоже был на том концерте и тогда воспринял его с энтузиазмом... Сейчас - несколько переосмыслил трактовку Кремера, особенно, что касается сонаты Франка: слишком много ненужной виртуозности, сильно выпячиваются неуместная экспрессивность и вычурное интонирование, хотя технически и интонационно - всё на высшем уровне... Аргерих мне и тогда и сейчас в этой сонате нравится. Суть этой сонаты - гениальная мелодичная простота с французским флёром и лёгкостью, не требующая никаких надуманностей и всяких "-измов"... (послушайте как играет Тибо с Корто, Ойстрах и из молодых - Борисоглебский; такая интерпретация больше соответствует духу и замыслу произведения...)
These are superb performances, both are masters of their instrument. I've known of Argerich's performances but this the first time for Gidon. I remember he won the Tchaikovsky violin competition and he's from Germany. But this the first time I've been enamored by his playing.
Extraordinary violin tone. Sounds like Heifetz. The rubato may not be to everyone's taste but a great work lends itself to multiple interpretations. Check out Chung/Lupu.
Franck escribe esta sonata utilizando hasta con exasperación todos los recursos del romanticismo y esta versión recrea a la perfección sus conceptos !!!! Una Grandiosa Version !!!
The Franck keeps me coming back despite some awkward choices in tempo and rubato at times. This is not meant to sound like steady Oistrakh, this is Kremer and Argerich. To me it is uniquely invigorating! And by the way they performed this work many times together before this recording in concert....so it is not under-rehersed, when your that good you often choose to try spontaneous artistic ideas---which they are both known to do, and do well!
Grandes musicos son el maestro Kremer y la formidable Martha Argerich. Que gran interpretación de la sonata de Cesar Frank. Esta interpretación y la Shlomo Mintz con Yefim Bronfman son mis preferidas.
-- La Sonate de César Franck est un morceau sublime. Schumann est un ravissement. Deux des meilleures interprètes que la musique ait enfanté. Et presque 30 ans après ce magnifique concert, ils continuent, tous deux, à nous ensorceler par l'excellence de leurs talents et l'amour de leur art. --
Kremer has certainly given a different approach to violin playing, his own style. A lot of violinists can't say that. He is always compelling, always genuine whether he's your favorite or not. The moving around on stage is ridiculous, though.
Пчёлка Перина постели - цветка лепестки. Бутон белой розы на лоне рассвета. Белейшие складки, снежинки, пески. А ты в ней, как пчёлка медового цвета. Слегка копошишься иль смирно лежишь, наевшись нектара и лучиков солнца, и в утренних снах безмятежно кружишь, вкушая последние зёрнышки порций. Смиренная сонность и лёгкий пейзаж приятны очам молодого флориста, уму апиолога, впавшему в раж, витающим грёзам простого софиста. Как будто Дюймовочка в чистом плену, глядишь милый сон под сухим одеялом. А я в наблюдении нежно тону, гадая о том, что ты смотришь с начала...
My favourite tape: Kremer plays Paganini for violin solo (vinil). But chamber sonatas... I prefer other players. First of all - Oistrakh - teacher of Gidon.
Where is the time when Russia was so cultivated and full of hope for their future? As a Polish I long for democracy of the old "mother Russia". She could definitely give the world the most of her genius, if only she wouldn't invade other countries and let her own people just live.
dc m No estoy de acuerdo. Como esperas perfección en una presentación en vivo. Es de mal gusto criticar un recital en vivo, donde muchos factores inciden en la presentación.
I agree - it isn't bad the ensemble but it seems they are playing two different interpretations of the FRanck and they haven't really agreed how to handle the rubato and tempi - Gidon seeking a far more flexible tempo while Agerich seems to want to keep things a little bit more agitated and therefore she seems to be trying to pull back . Anyway, it sounds simply they did not have enough rehearsal time together - maybe 2 more rehearsals to improve ensemble would have made it stellar. The Franck is a difficult work - the piano part especially.
@@chrissahar2014 I like to hear when two performers play differently. It makes the work more interesting, like a real conversation. Their interpretation isn't uniform but I actually prefer it like that. It makes the moments of pure synchrony even more delicious.
I have to say, I've never gotten Kremer. To me he seems to have an unsteady bow in soft passages, tuning is sometimes a problem and his approach to romantic music often seems graceless to me. Here, the Franck sounds pretty under-rehearsed, particularly the 2nd mvt. I do acknowledge mine may be a minority opinion though...
I agree, there’s often no musical reason for her to speed up so much when playing alone, then have to slow down again when the violin comes back in. He may be reveling in the music at times and she wants to rush through it, like two totally different interpretations, or like she’s showing off how fast she can play, or like she’s bored otherwise.
Тяжело слушать. Я понимаю, что это концертное выступление, очень эмоциональное и Кремер выкладывается по-полной. Но такое количество брака в звуке, местами просто песок и треск, что недопустимо для скрипача русской школы. Особенно зная как Кремер может играть, это далеко не лучшее выступление. В Сонате Франка весьма спорные темпы, на грани. Но все равно любопытно, спасибо за видео.
meh... Martha needs to remember that the violin is a part of the performance too... so many periods of unnecessary piano dominance and tempo fragmentation across the piece. And speed is not always a characteristic of the performance. Also, the piano is performed at warp speed in some intricate sections, diminishing the audibility and of necessary articulation entirely. Sorry - but as a disciplined student, I notice this.
Actually pretty bad. Piano part in Franck 2nd movement... For a pianist of such calliber it sounds rushed, making it really unprecise and chaotic. Schumann 4th movemenet, the bow technique is outrageously out of control making it slip and sometimes miss, emotions go their way but for a proffesional to struggle with such an elementary issue, is just saddening. I'm just guessing both musicians had their bad day.
Such fantastic musicians. No airs and graces. Just two wonderful players
Dos grandes músicos de talla mundial.
I don't really believe that I have ever heard such an amazing and sublime sound, on violin. Absolutely sublime violin playing. Pianist, is very pure magic, as she always is!!!!!!!!
Franck Violin Sonata:
00:21 - I. Allegretto ben moderato
06:33 - II. Allegro
14:16 - III. Ben moderato: Recitativo-Fantasia
21:38 - IV. Allegretto poco mosso
Я был на этом концерте!!! Это было невероятно!!! ❤❤❤❤
Тоже была тогда.❤Вы тогда студент,какого заведения?
@@M-L969 я учился тогда в Консерватории! А вы?
@@MaestroCadena,тогда еще в Гнесинском уч-ще
To be too critical and finding fault to satisfy your own taste takes the joy out of your music, I just sit back and enjoy their music! They both played beautifully! 💓
C'est tout de même merveilleux de voir de tels immenses artistes se donner mutuellement du temps, s'écouter avec une minutie, une attention passionnées à suspendre le souffle, puis se provoquer, se soulever mutuellement de terre par des tsunamis, sans jamais chercher à dominer l'autre mais toujours en jouant ensemble, comme des enfants ivres de joie et de liberté. Comment ne pas en être complètement ébloui ? Ce concert en plus est extraordinairement bien filmé - et enregistré.
素晴らしい、一番好きな曲です、もう何回聞いたでしょうか
Delicate, exquisite, unique! Two amazing artists painting beauty with sound.
Чудо - как хорошо! Восторг!
Тоже был на том концерте и тогда воспринял его с энтузиазмом... Сейчас - несколько переосмыслил трактовку Кремера, особенно, что касается сонаты Франка: слишком много ненужной виртуозности, сильно выпячиваются неуместная экспрессивность и вычурное интонирование, хотя технически и интонационно - всё на высшем уровне... Аргерих мне и тогда и сейчас в этой сонате нравится. Суть этой сонаты - гениальная мелодичная простота с французским флёром и лёгкостью, не требующая никаких надуманностей и всяких "-измов"... (послушайте как играет Тибо с Корто, Ойстрах и из молодых - Борисоглебский; такая интерпретация больше соответствует духу и замыслу произведения...)
Kremer's kind of raspy style is very poignant and beautiful. And I always love listening to Martha Argerich's fine playing. Thank you for posting.
Фантастические ансамбль и сплочённость!!!! Единый музыкальный организм!!
These are superb performances, both are masters of their instrument. I've known of Argerich's performances but this the first time for Gidon. I remember he won the Tchaikovsky violin competition and he's from Germany. But this the first time I've been enamored by his playing.
C'est sublime. Ça vas direct au coeur. Quelle performance. Bravo !
Quel son. C'est rare.
MERCI MILLES FOIS POUR LE CONCERT,IMMENSE ARTISTES.
Завидую тем, кто слушал вживую. Рад, что могу слушать так. Браво!
Of immeasurable intensity and genius.
Kremer's violin sounds like the voice of his soul.
洋阿相
ついに私好みの演奏に遭遇することができました！ここ数週間折につけ好みのフランクを尋ねてもう10数名の演奏を聞いてきたのです。特に第３楽章にこれといった演奏がなかったのですが、この組み合わせのファンタジックな演奏が素晴らしかったと思います。お二人が40歳代の脂の乗り切った演奏はこの曲の定番となることでしょう。
Siempre vengo aquí cuando hay algo difícil que afrontar.
Extraordinary violin tone. Sounds like Heifetz. The rubato may not be to everyone's taste but a great work lends itself to multiple interpretations. Check out Chung/Lupu.
Franck escribe esta sonata utilizando hasta con exasperación todos los recursos del romanticismo y esta versión recrea a la perfección sus conceptos !!!! Una Grandiosa Version !!!
The Franck keeps me coming back despite some awkward choices in tempo and rubato at times. This is not meant to sound like steady Oistrakh, this is Kremer and Argerich. To me it is uniquely invigorating! And by the way they performed this work many times together before this recording in concert....so it is not under-rehersed, when your that good you often choose to try spontaneous artistic ideas---which they are both known to do, and do well!
クレーメルはクセがある。し、それに価値を見いだせない場合は、ある意味、聴衆を選ぶ音楽性なのかもしれない。
或いは、聴く側も感性を研ぎ澄ませて聴かないといけないかもしれない。
しかし、こんな繊細かつ美しい音楽をできる人間がかつて居ただろうか。
只々ヴァイオリンのヴィルトゥオーソとしてだけではなく、音楽家として、ただならぬ価値をもっている、他の音楽家とは一線を画しているヴァイオリニストだと信じて止まない。私はそう思う。
Bella, juvenil y genial. Marta Argerich tenía 48 años en 1089
1989, quise decir.
super, danke
what a wonderful franck
Grandes musicos son el maestro Kremer y la formidable Martha Argerich. Que gran interpretación de la sonata de Cesar Frank. Esta interpretación y la Shlomo Mintz con Yefim Bronfman son mis preferidas.
-- La Sonate de César Franck est un morceau sublime. Schumann est un ravissement. Deux des meilleures interprètes que la musique ait enfanté. Et presque 30 ans après ce magnifique concert, ils continuent, tous deux, à nous ensorceler par l'excellence de leurs talents et l'amour de leur art. --
Sublime - yes, morceau? - it lasts 1/2 hour !
You are absolutly right. I shall have said "œuvre" instead of "morceau". Worderfull piece indeed.
Ben Cuevas) и 33
sublimes musiciens quel son de génie Kremer !!!
ВЕЛИКОЛЕПНО!
Encontré a kremer por casualidad y me encanto que quede prendido
Stunning!
Frank voilin sonata
1. 0:21
2. 6:33
Bravo!!!!!!!!!!!!
Großartig! Vielen Dank!
Deux génies ❤️
What a gem.
never know, that kremer could play kreisler such intense.
00:21 Ⅰ楽章
6:32 Ⅱ楽章
14:17 Ⅲ楽章
21:39 IV楽章
Браво!
Kremer has certainly given a different approach to violin playing, his own style. A lot of violinists can't say that. He is always compelling, always genuine whether he's your favorite or not. The moving around on stage is ridiculous, though.
💜💙🧡
Martita ya arrancando Mas rapido como diciendo "movete nene "....
I'm a pianist so I can hardly judge the quality of one's violon technique, but his sound is absolutly insane, so charming
La meilleur version avec Ferras
And Alexander Rabinovitch is turning pages to Martha?
good spot. You can see she likes him.
They made great music together....for the Teldec Label. ;)
I thought it was Javier Bardem
Do you have the Bartok?
Незабываемый,великолепно!Идеальный ансамбль!
They play devilishly good!
14.15 3rd movement
Пчёлка
Перина постели - цветка лепестки.
Бутон белой розы на лоне рассвета.
Белейшие складки, снежинки, пески.
А ты в ней, как пчёлка медового цвета.
Слегка копошишься иль смирно лежишь,
наевшись нектара и лучиков солнца,
и в утренних снах безмятежно кружишь,
вкушая последние зёрнышки порций.
Смиренная сонность и лёгкий пейзаж
приятны очам молодого флориста,
уму апиолога, впавшему в раж,
витающим грёзам простого софиста.
Как будто Дюймовочка в чистом плену,
глядишь милый сон под сухим одеялом.
А я в наблюдении нежно тону,
гадая о том, что ты смотришь с начала...
Sublime
Пришельцы!оба...
Una colisión entre dos asteroides..
Where is the Bartok sonata?
I don't know, why don't you email Kultura? :)
Did you get this recording by sending an e-mail? :) Plus my russian is terrible :)
21:39
My favourite tape: Kremer plays Paganini for violin solo (vinil). But chamber sonatas... I prefer other players. First of all - Oistrakh - teacher of Gidon.
36:00
I was going to listen to them in Frankfurt at that time, bought a ticket and you know what? Martha cancelled! And guess who played instead of her?
umm....Oscar Peterson? Or Keith Jarrett? :)
itchy2345 Afanassiev?
Ha!
+punkpoetry Ta-daah!
+ADGO haha, close.
Did anyone notice Richter at 54:37?
nice one
В сонате Франка местами - джигитовка откровенная. Как в народной музычке. Я не против, но это другой жанр.
Where is the time when Russia was so cultivated and full of hope for their future? As a Polish I long for democracy of the old "mother Russia". She could definitely give the world the most of her genius, if only she wouldn't invade other countries and let her own people just live.
Спасибо Вам за слова о России! Всё, что происходит сейчас, то, чему виной Россия - ужасно!
Total fucking crap
World renowned violinist and pianist but the musical ensenble is not the best...Too wild and not harmonious that well each other in Franck sonate
dc m No estoy de acuerdo. Como esperas perfección en una presentación en vivo. Es de mal gusto criticar un recital en vivo, donde muchos factores inciden en la presentación.
I agree - it isn't bad the ensemble but it seems they are playing two different interpretations of the FRanck and they haven't really agreed how to handle the rubato and tempi - Gidon seeking a far more flexible tempo while Agerich seems to want to keep things a little bit more agitated and therefore she seems to be trying to pull back . Anyway, it sounds simply they did not have enough rehearsal time together - maybe 2 more rehearsals to improve ensemble would have made it stellar. The Franck is a difficult work - the piano part especially.
@@chrissahar2014 I like to hear when two performers play differently. It makes the work more interesting, like a real conversation. Their interpretation isn't uniform but I actually prefer it like that. It makes the moments of pure synchrony even more delicious.
こんな気の抜けた様なバイオリン聴けるか‼️
I have to say, I've never gotten Kremer. To me he seems to have an unsteady bow in soft passages, tuning is sometimes a problem and his approach to romantic music often seems graceless to me. Here, the Franck sounds pretty under-rehearsed, particularly the 2nd mvt. I do acknowledge mine may be a minority opinion though...
gtimny
????
Menuhin is good for Franck (Perlman is best)
It seems Schnittke is not impressed by their performance. I wonder if you noticed the allusion I'm making in my first sentence.
Pauvre con
Was Schnittke in the audience?
Great playing, at least partly, but nothing beats Oistrakh and Richter in the Franck sonata. Then comes - Cortot and Thibaud!
Try Ferras as well! I love Oistrakh though.
I like Cortot and Thibaud much more then anybody else. They where so authentic in the french repertoire.
Le parole non servono...
I don(t laike so much the paying of Kremer in Franck's sonata. It should be a bit softened, especially in the two extreme movements.
Her tempo was too fast. She always plays the piano in that way even if she has companions playing the same work.
I agree
He was annoyingly slow
I agree, there’s often no musical reason for her to speed up so much when playing alone, then have to slow down again when the violin comes back in. He may be reveling in the music at times and she wants to rush through it, like two totally different interpretations, or like she’s showing off how fast she can play, or like she’s bored otherwise.
Тяжело слушать. Я понимаю, что это концертное выступление, очень эмоциональное и Кремер выкладывается по-полной. Но такое количество брака в звуке, местами просто песок и треск, что недопустимо для скрипача русской школы. Особенно зная как Кремер может играть, это далеко не лучшее выступление. В Сонате Франка весьма спорные темпы, на грани. Но все равно любопытно, спасибо за видео.
Mr Kremer really wasn't good at Franck's style lol.
meh... Martha needs to remember that the violin is a part of the performance too... so many periods of unnecessary piano dominance and tempo fragmentation across the piece. And speed is not always a characteristic of the performance.
Also, the piano is performed at warp speed in some intricate sections, diminishing the audibility and of necessary articulation entirely. Sorry - but as a disciplined student, I notice this.
Gidon kremer never reached the level of Philippe Hirschhorn.
Always envy and mistreating poor Philip Hirschorn
カントロフさんのと聴き比べたらやはり薄っぺらいな。アルゲリッチさんとカントロフさんの組み合わせなら良かったのかもな。
Actually pretty bad.
Piano part in Franck 2nd movement...
For a pianist of such calliber it sounds rushed, making it really unprecise and chaotic. Schumann 4th movemenet, the bow technique is outrageously out of control making it slip and sometimes miss, emotions go their way but for a proffesional to struggle with such an elementary issue, is just saddening. I'm just guessing both musicians had their bad day.
21:39