Sigurd the Dragonslayer - A Viking Rune Stone 🇸🇪🐲
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- The dragonslayer Sigurd was an ancestral figure and archetype for Germanic aristocracy.
Sigurdsristningen in Sweden is the Ramsund carving (Sigurd stone) made in the early 11th century in memorial of a man named Sigröd by the command of his widow Sigriþr - the names of these aristocrats suggest that these people believed themselves descendants of Sigurd who was himself descended from Odin.
Sigurd’s story is famous around Europe, it is most well-known from the Old Norse sources Þiðrekssaga and Völsunga saga as well as the medieval German Nibelungenlied in which Sigurd is known as Siegfried - this was the inspiration for Richard Wagner’s Ring cycle opera. In Beowulf, Sigurd’s grandfather Volsung is referred to in Old English as Wæls.
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Gotterdammerung: Siegfriend's Funeral March, Finale
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>sliding on a snowy runestone to the sound of glorious Wagnerian strains
best channel
It seems crazy to me that this ancient stone is not at least given some shelter from the elements to help protect it, so it can last longer.
+Albert Ehrlichmann The stone in Sweden is very hard so the runes last a long time. If it was delicate i wouldn't have been scraping the snow off like I was.
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I know, but it will erode eventually from being out in the open like that.
the Runestones has been out in the open since they were risen. They are not easily destroyed. We have lots of These in scandinavia
+Albert Ehrlichmann some of them like the sparlosa stone have had shelter built around them, but most have survived over 1000 years in the open without maintenance.
Albert Ehrlichmann ....my thoughts exactly ....
Great tree in the beginning. Once again thank you for this. You sure are tuned in. Great spaces-great places. So much wood and steel lost to time. It's a good thing we've got a few rocks to help along the way. Have fun Gare
We may never know if Sigurd was ever real or not. But, he will be a great hero of our folk as long as Midgard exists.
Sigurd was real he was the King of Norway and Sweden his son was Ragnar Sigurdsson AKA Ragnar Lothbrok who in turn made Ivar the Boneless Bjorn Ironside and Sigurd Snake in the Eye Sigurdsson who married King Aillas Daughter sorry if I pronouced his name wrong alot of people in Mythology were real but their stories are often exaggerated to Godhood due to the Pegans belief in Ancestor Worship I have a line to where I'm actually related to Sigurd Ragnar and his Son Sigurd (Snake in the eye) Sigurdsson
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Fun fact:
In Beowulf, a poem from the 7th century, speaks of Sigemund the Wælsing, and it is him, not Sigurdr, who is said that he killed a dragon. Meaning the story of Sigmund aka Sigurdr is way older.
Daniel Kedney whats weird is my last name (English origin) may originate partly from the word wæl, but I wasn’t sure what it means...
The name originates from East Anglia, but more specifically Norfolk
So I guess I bear the name of the Völsungr :D
Woohoo Sigurdsristningen near Sundbyholm, Eskilstuna my hometown. I've been there many many times, its a lovelly setting and the stone is very well preserved :)
Some researchers say that Siegfried probably is based on a true event. He is seen as the Roman mercenary Hermann. He was from Germanic origin, actually Cheruscan. He fought and beat the Romans in the Battle of Varus in 9 AD. There is a big monument in Thuringia (Hermannsdenkmal) to honor Siegfried=Hermann. Hermann (lat. Arminius) became a legend among Germanic people after the victory, including Scandinavia. The battle is seen as the Romans' last effort to take Germania beyond the Rhine. It is considered as the greatest defeat of the Roman Empire.
The lindworm is seen as a metaphor for the Roman army platoon that Hermann lured into a trap in the Thuringian forest, where some of the germanic tribes attacked. Given that this was such a success for germanic people, the story of victory spread. The Nibelung Saga is known all over the Germanic world. Given that the saga also tells the exact places where things happened, it seems unlikely that this is just a saga without a real core.
The monument:
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Hermannsdenkmal is not in Thuringia, sorry, it's located at the border of two German states North Rhine Westfalia and Lower Saxony on top of a mountain in an area called Teuteburger Wald, ( former name Osning, close to the Externsteine, a remaining ice age rock formation, used for solstice rituals by ancient and neo pagans! The Osning with the Hermansdenkmal and the Externsteine is a true magical place and well worth a visit.
The tree in the opening scene is so wonderful. 1:37 is priceless. Thank you for the upload.
+KIM Fitness and Spirit I particularly liked that tree too. It was huge. Looks like an English oak to me
Just discovered your channel. Subbed. Relatively new to paganism and your channel helps me understand the beliefs. Thanks man.
Glad to be of service. Please share my videos with anyone else you think would benefit frm them
Survive the Jive Will do, my friend.
Truly a marvelous video once again Thomas, keep it up!
As a kid my father showed me the 1924 Austrian silent film 'Die Nibelungen: Siegfried', it's still my favorite film to this day and really spurred my fascination with our past. Needless to say I'd recommend anyone to watch it. I also just recently discovered the German song 'Sigurdslied' by Faun, and the old Faroese ballad Sjúrðarkvæði which is a cycle of 3 parts with a total of 617(!) verses all about Sigurd. Regin Smiður is the first part, second is Brynhildartáttur, third and last is Høgnatáttur. Fantastic stuff.
+Harald Nordmann I enjoyed that film too. I will have a listen to the music you've mentioned, thanks!
The Fritz Lang one, right? That's a great film and I watched that for my Germanic Mythology class. It's brilliant.
Harald Nordmann I love reading comments on STJ videos because I always find gems like this. Thank you, I've added everything you cited to a list I have of important books, texts, film and music.
I was born in Indonesia by a Dutch mother who was a Druid. It was interring when I met a man in Pennsylvania when I was in my 40’s and told me the story of Sigrid. I had at that time many parrots and Great Danes. I was a healer of wounded birds at that time. Many children in my home town thought I was a witch. I also am a descendent of a higher class people’s of Indonesian peoples that had to fee out of Indonesia when the revolution came in 1957. My mother married an Indonesian Dutch man. When I look at my name I fit it perfectly. She knew what she was doing. Coming from the Nordic families of the Netherlands. Thank you for this video. The USA has not a clue what the European nations are about and all they think is about money. I do not know where you are from. Thank you for information.
The shit he puts himself through for us
I came across him in my lineage, I’m not sure how accurate it is but this is pretty cool non the less
Very interesting video. The carving is beautiful, but perhaps it should be better preserved, covered with reinforced glass or plastic maybe, to prevent people from damaging it? Thanks for showing it.
To claim that for a king to claim descendance from a mythical hero or god is primitive is absurd for numerous reasons including because it isn't a uniquely ancient or pagan practice as the Christian Kings of Europe claimed to be descended from the same line as Jesus, a line that was claimed to be descended from Biblical Kings and Abraham.
There's a German film on this he kill's the dragon and gets covered in blood and it makes him invincible,But there is a floor in it because he had a leaf stuck on his back he did not see it.
can't believe such precious culture heritage exposed to nature without even any protection from natural erosion
All existing rune stones are out in the open air as far as I know. Also the big stone carvings at Tanum (Swedish west coast)
I wish i could go sledding on a rune stone someday 😜
I truly love how you presented the information in this video. Best wishes from Frank, Flanders/Belgium!
Very good video. Your exploring these sites make them physically come alive, just as the careful choice of music does the same emotionally, especially the timeless works of Wagner. How much of this divine progenitor tie in with euhemism and archetypes? My own Suebi tribe had an origin story where the ancient Germanic god Tuisto, who was born from the earth, had a son Mannus ("Mann" inherent within the name) who in turn had three sons of whom one was Suebi, from whom descent our tribe, while other tribes descended from his other two sons. There seems to be a deeper pan-Indo-European motif here, as the Vedic tradition had the story of Mani....Its not a stretch to also presume that the Christians' "Saint George the Dragon-Slayer" was a composite figure of these pre-Christian dragon-slayers like Siegfried/Sigurd. This motif seemed to also been common among Indo-Europeans, with the Greek mythos about Apollo and Herakles, and the Slavic Polish legend of Krakus and the Wawel Dragon. Clearly, this motif touched something deep within our collective souls and so the missionaries knew they had to co-opt our symbols for their own "saints".
Yes! I think the introduction of saint-worship into christianity during the time when it spread among indo-european pagans suggests that hero-worship was a part of pagan religion(s) as well as worship of the gods, as STJ proposes.
In Sweden we call it "hällristning"... but you know this :)
Yes but generally that's to refer to bronze age petroglyphs right?
@@Survivethejive I guess most people would refer to the petroglyphs, but I'm guessing this could technically also be called hällristning.
Häll is what we call that type of bare rock, which is a grounded/sanded down "mountain" by the ice age ice. And ristning means carving.
So I would rather call this a hällristning than a runestone at least. Since it is carved on a stenhäll and not a stone.
I don't know how the swedish carving appear before the saga, but to me this was a myth in response to christianity, to compete with it. Probably based on Balder.
Should have brought a broom. Interesting presentation. Have you read Tolkien's 'The Legend of Sigurd and Gudrun', incidentally? It's done as a poem in modern English but with the old style metre, and as far as I know it sticks quite closely to the story in the Eddas. Worth checking out. Also worth mentioning are the nineteenth century murals in Neuschwanstein Castle, which illustrate old Germanic myths including this one.
Why is it painted red? Did that color come down over the ages, or do some sort of cultural organization repaint it regularly?
Runestones were originally in many different colours such as black, red, yellow and so on. The red colour you see on all runestones today were painted in modern times. Various cultural organisations sometimes repaint them if the colour is fading off, they of course must have permission from the state first.
Sounds a lot like Von Herder’s concept of the Volksgeist
Makes me want to kill a shapeshifting dwarf dragon...then eat it's heart. A hell of a story.
Neat
“Levi” jeans? Not very Indo-European. Nice video though.
"eating the heart of a dragon gives wisdom"
i wonder if that refers to gaining knowledge from one of the ancient peoples that were called dragons. the ones who used the swastika all over the world.
The aryans or something of the like i can't remember what that one youtube said lol
Please realise how hilarious it is that you can just go for a walk in the snow, slap about a rock and say "this bad boy has some crazy stories".
Still one of my favourite StJ vids, beyond the long-form documentaries.
A kingdom for a broom :DD
Dude sliding on a rune that's hundreds of years old
Very interesting video! Thx for making these great videos. This is what kids in school should watch.Skål min vän!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Cool to find a vid about 10 km from where I live 😊
Shame YT throttles this channel in algorithms.. you do such a great service to our ancestors and to your subscribers and those who are not subscribed, and those who will come around.
This is 7 years old, and I’ve recently found your channel. You haven’t skipped a beat in decade of time.
You should be pride of your modern age work, I bet our ancestors are.
Much appreciated!
In a more modern common term, I think the phrase would be "More power to yer bollox!"
Neat stuff, gotta check this stone out myself on a trip to Sweden
Hello sir, great video! I've been watching several of yours the last few days so please keep it up! I'm working on telling the story of the Slaying of Fafnir for my Germanic Mythology class and I would be really honoured if you could take a look at it when I upload it here in a few days after it's complete.
Cheers!
sounds good mate. will do
Epic stunt of heroic archeology at 3:35!
I wish you handled the site with more care, just because you can risk damaging it doesnt mean you should please keep this in mind in future vids
this was 7 years ago and i have not slid on any other stones. I admit it was a little foolhardy but please do be aware that Swedish granite is incredibly hard and the cotton of my levi's was never going to do it any harm
1:33 lol looks fun
Best way to clear the snow!
I am a daughter of the Ring family and our ancestry goes all the way back to these parts of Europe. Thankyou for showing this! Truly beautiful!
Thank you for using Richard Wagner's music. He might be the greatest underappreciated composer.
He's literally one of the most famous and well-known composers of all time lol
@@Morphdog9819 Ofcourse he is, but still under appreciated compared to Mozart, Bach and Beethoven.
I'm curious how much the unjust WWII stigma on his music influences this.
Is this ragnar father
What a wonderful legend telling of Sigurds exploits way back when. This video is very enjoyable makes me want to visit then stone myself, and discover it under the snow perhaps.
Sigurd the mighty? Conqueror of Orkney... Didn't he die a "stupid death" on horrible histories?
Infection from a scratch from the tooth of his victim's severed head.
Perhaps not as wise as the dragon after all...
How about the svetovit ? Of temple in Arkona, island of Rugen?I believe also a precursor to Christian Saint George ?
Wow. Sigurd gains wisdom in almost the same way as Finn; one sucks his thumb to clean blood from it, and the other does it to soothe a burn and both sustained while cooking a sacred meal to give another the gift. Did Sigurd also bite or chew his thumb when in contemplation?
6 years late but fun vid... As a Gael it reminds me of Finn of the Fianna, who burnt his thumb cooking the Salmon of Knowledge for a sage. When he needed wisdom henceforth he would suck it like a child for inspiration
Undoubtedly the myths have a common source. The dragon is frequently conflated with a fish in Germanic and other cultures
Does not feel completely okay that he slides on our cultural heritage like that 🤨 Have some respect
Boars head snout position to force something open,used by cavalry normally from Alexanders time.
Skal...
1:25 - 1:30 I wonder if that’s where we get the expression “a little birdie told me”.
Where Wagner found his inspiration.)) (the funeral march)
Great Knowledge , great video ! One tip for uncovering something with snow , pour water all over it ! And maybe a broom , lol , the body side worked quite well though haaaa awesome ! Thanks again
Is Sigurd Most likely based on a real person?
Great video, you seem to be having a lot of fun sliding down there :P
could this be a reoccurring timeline possibly as well?
Is there anywhere I could get this as a tapestry or wall-hanging?
Where do you have the Othala cap?
Wow, where is that stone located?
Södermanland, Sweden
Isn't there the risk that someone would destroy it/paint over it?Shouldn't it be in a museum?
Menino Hulk It would be pretty damn risky trying to remove the piece since it’s carved into a ”mountain”. People vandalising runestones is not common here in Sweden, I think alot of people respect them too much. Our nature is our museum.
This dude sounds like Jude law in A Series Of Unfortunate Events
We need so much more of this kind of thinking. Thanks for your work.
what part of nibelungenlied is the song
perfect how it turned with the video
Visit the gravefild in Jordbro Haninge
If only we could get it back
Where did you buy that hat with the rune on?
Thank you for this!
I love runic scriptions!
So. I find Traditionalist paganism to be wonderful. It's interesting. It makes me feel connected to my heritage when I'm studying it. But, to my surprise, pagans turn Tail and run away from talking to me as fast as they can as soon as they find out I'm an atheist. Most religious people of any stripe feel threatened by atheists. But no one runs as fast as traditional pagans. Idk y. I'm not your enemy. I dont study religions to debunk them. (They usually do a fine job of that all by themselves.) I'm just here to learn. And to connect to my European heritage.
That cheeky little parenthetical you put in there is why no one wants to engage with you. People are sick of the New Atheists and their smug self righteousness.
@@ProfessorShnacktime u miss judge me friend. I am not a "new atheist" I do not want to strip anyone of their beliefs. But surely some are much easier to believe then others no? And btw people engage with me all the time. And each time it's a bit more enriching. So you can hold tight to your spite. As I continue my search for knowledge.
@@ProfessorShnacktime dare I say most atheists are not "new atheists". Or even identify as atheists at all. Every single one of us, including you was born this way. Faith must be cultivated. Many of us simply never had any religious cultivation whatsoever. New atheists are mostly ex-christians on a crusade to rid the world of their erstwhile beliefs. But most atheists are just people who dont believe. And when you have nothing but a secular education most religions and their practices do look silly. But I make a concerted effort to at least understand them. Surely you respect my right to disagree with what I find bears very little truth.
que increible pro
Where'd you get the hat from if I may ask?
just from a 2nd hand shop then put a badge on it
WOW!
This story sounds very similar to that of Finn McCool
evidently some relation
@@Survivethejive Maybe this could show for some Celto-Germanic connection. I was also wondering if you hold any spiritual/pagan beliefs and if so if you could do a livestream or meet up event based around these things?
My family claims descent from Sigurd (among other cultural heroes such as Wienand the Warrior, Ataulf King of the Visigoths, Marovetch King of the Salian Franks, Charles Martel, and Atli of the Hunna). The claim of Sigurd Fafnirbana as an ancestor was made by a woman called Aslaug who was an orphan. The overlord of Norway who was of Gothic and Danish stock was smitten with her and after a test of wits, she became his third wife and bore him a son named Bjorn. According to our tradition, Bjorn became a Varangian Guard, served his father's brother Earl Keitel in Kiev, and then returned to Norway a wealthy man. When his father was murdered, he was among the ones to take revenge and afterwords became a local king in Norway. Several generations later, his Descendant Rollo sacked Paris and was gifted Normandy. The rest should be common knowledge to English Speaking people. We conquered England in 1066 CE, ruled for a while, then somehow ended up as farmers in Nottinghamshire. The records we have don't say how that happened except that the throne was usurped. My ancestors joined the Puritain and Seperatist movement, fled England to the Netherlands, and came to North America in 1620 and founded the colony of Massachusetts. We have been here ever since. Family history is pretty wacky sometimes.
North amrrican mutt bullshit.
@@joonte1010 Even a mutt can have a purebred ancestor in the mix. And, dude, we're all mutts because on huge continents like Eurasia, people will travel and do their thing. I happily claim hybrid vigor from my mostly Northern European and Scandinavian ancestors, some of whom fought in the American Revolutionary war, and some who came later for the better opportunities the new world had to offer.
why sigurd and not siegfried'?
Because in the English-speaking world and thus the Germanic Pagan community in these countries, his Scandinavian name Sigurd is more well-known. But given my South German roots (Suebi and Alemanni), his name as Siegfried as well as our names for the gods like Wotan and Donar, are also what resonate the most with me. Danke Schon for pointing out his German name.
Where is that stone
close to Ramsund, Eskilstuna Municipality, Södermanland
Great video!!!
There is a spirits as a soul in my body from norse, from god loki familia. He exist in my body because the war of thor army vs loki army at the past time. It's war of gods, war of spirits. Now your gods and goddesses must help him, because he not our family and still get hurt by evil spirits. All people in this earth who life with bad faith are from norse, from loki familia. All muslim have spirits as souls from Norse. I live in kumai
Bad spirit are of devil's advocate where beloved was Gods and goddess religion many of paganism house BURN up Europe by Christians up rise charge old Norse myth Loki and Norse creations story mixture biblical principles of in how big bang theory started first man and woman form only by one God needless Norse and Christianity one thing in common Bagar got killed by acting by blind eye God because ticktiser Loki given mistoe to blind a god kinda dumb purpose rid of Bagar the God beauty while Jesus Christ taught how teach the gospels that his death rise up tomb because Jesus Christ died for pay for sin we served in our life since human learned to hate each other fallen disobey law enforcement.
This video got me thinking. Where do our legends of dragons, and hence dragonslayers, come from? Somewhere in the deep pre-historic past, some guy somewhere killed a really big lizard, and the story got around? I know that the huge serpents and dragons have come to be metaphorical, but there has to be a frsin of reality for them to have that form.
Also, thanks for the Wagner. I respond to Wagner, and it is time his music lost its unfortunate association with a group of unpleasant people.
I am sure it is about a comets and bolides look at the footage of the Chelyabinsk meteor with its two vortices and compare it to the Chinese New Year Dragons chasing a bright pearl. Everyone knows the story and yet can't see it : The shining hero fights the dragon to save the maiden or the sun is confronted with the dragon and saves mother nature. Its most ancient portrayal is in the Tiamat story and Gobekli Tepe.
Claiming to be related to divine heroes is no more primitive than the continued belief in magic and magical creatures like ghosts, angels, demons, elves, witches, gods. It all has just as much evidence behind it.
Profile pic of satan, subscribed to shitty lefty channels. Checks out
You look like Chetnik with that hat on lol/
glorious
Quite a bit late but all these years later I must thank you for the pain in the ass clearing that snow must have been.
never too late! cheers
Son of Hreidmar. He kills his father to get possession of the Andvarenaut. He afterwards changes himself into a dragon and guards the treasure on Gnitaheath. He is slain by Sigurd, and his heart is roasted and eaten. Norse
godfinder.org/index.html?q=Sigurd