Episode 1 ... Presocratic Philosophy - Ionian

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  • @cyanozoid2706
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  • @philmessina476
    @philmessina476 2 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    Pre-Socratic Philosophy - Ionian
    (c. 0:01) Preliminary Remarks
    (c. 0:49) Introduction
    (c. 14:27) Thales
    (c. 25:30) Heraclitus
    (c. 35:48) Democritus

  • @amandayu2050
    @amandayu2050 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Hey Stephen, just wanted to shout out and say a huge thanks for creating this series. I've gotten myself into a big existential rut, but these episodes make my day. I haven't felt this engaged for a long while (typing notes/thoughts as if I'm back at uni). I love the questions at the end of each episode, prompting me to look at life through various lens. Thank you and if there was ever a moment where you weren't sure about starting this, I want you to know that it's getting me out of bed and helping me ask questions to lead a happier and more fulfilling life. THANK YOU!!

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    @peccaret 5 ปีที่แล้ว +84

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    @khushbuk8288 ปีที่แล้ว +2

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    @gabrielakrasteva9798 5 ปีที่แล้ว +24

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  • @Human_Evolution-
    @Human_Evolution- 5 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    Thaaaales!!!! Violently headbangs!*

  • @markoslavicek
    @markoslavicek 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Great summary, I really enjoyed it.
    I'd just add one remark: the lives and personalities of presocratics are largely fictionalized to fit their philosophies. We have no reason to believe basically any of the anecdotes on Heraclitus or his misantropic behaviour and crazy death. For further reading I'd recommend a book Death by Philosophy by late Ava Chitwood.

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    You're a great person, thank you.

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    Thank you for recording these for us. You talked slowly in early episodes ! :)

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  • @seanpatrickrichards5593
    @seanpatrickrichards5593 4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    26:25 lol "He was an angry, Get Off My Lawn kind of guy"

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    @azeezfit 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great episode! Thank you for this!

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  • @dianeatkinson9113
    @dianeatkinson9113 ปีที่แล้ว

    So delighted to reach your first episode, and it is wonderful, like those that follow! A very engaging roundup of the preSocratic thinkers. I liked the look at people coming out of Africa and while I realise it was just a very minor point about how tough life was, and I don't claim to know much about paleontology, I do wonder whether people had more resources than we might think today. Just looking at the enormous range of skills that Australian Aboriginal people used and in many cases still use to navigate life I note that finding water is an artform for this culture. They can find water in the desert by understanding the types of vegetation that use underground water, to locate it near the surface. Then there is their knowledge of the seasons, that tells where food can be found at different times of year. It is recorded in stories and songs that hark back to times of scarcity. This is not to detract from your point about life being tough, it certainly was, but for people of our culture it would have been impossible. We have forgotten the skills that kept people happy and healthy in those times, and made them incredibly resillient. There is a movie titled "The Rabbit Proof Fence" that tells the story of a 14 year old Aboriginal girl who was stolen from her family and taken to an institution 1400kms from her home. She managed to escape, bringing her 8 year old cousin too, and because she recognised the same fence that ran past her home, used it to navegate her way back on foot. She managed to find food and water to keep her and her cousin alive for the 3 months that it took her to walk back. This was in central Australia, desert country, and country she was not familiar with. Imagine us trying to do that! Australian Aboriginal culture has many similarities to the bushman culture of South Africa, cultures that would be much closer to those ancient cultures than our own.

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    Thank you!

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    Felt identified with one of the examples. !
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    1. Pre-Jessica XD
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    @unholycritter3448 3 ปีที่แล้ว

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    Thank you so much sir for podcast as it helps a lot in my studies but please write the name of Philosophers as well as it is difficult to get the names due to accent issue.
    Thank you so much !

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    @standcamacho4139 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

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    @lubime10 3 ปีที่แล้ว

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    • @MrVicander99
      @MrVicander99 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      band is Bullet For My Valentine
      song is "cries in vains in"

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    @apostolisbloutsos7700 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for the content. I have just discovered your podcast and really like it and enjoy listening to it. However I noticed you talk about Lucretiuss' "De Rerum Natura" which is a comprehensive exposition of the Epicurean world view and not "the best version of atomism" as you falsely stated (although Epicurus further developed the Democritian theory of atoms). And it is "De Rerum Natura" and not "Nactura" as you pronounced it. Other than that I may have just discovered what I will binge on in this second round of lockdown.

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    @rebostray 5 ปีที่แล้ว

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  • @Over-Boy42
    @Over-Boy42 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    While I would agree that Democritus theory of atoms is definitely ONE OF the most significant ideas of the pre-socratics, the Pythagorean theorem I think has to take the title as THE most important.

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    @andthereisntone3454 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

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    @bhishek9973 2 ปีที่แล้ว

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  • @trobadour4991
    @trobadour4991 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Which book should I read to get more details in the pre-socratic philosophers?

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    @candymandan 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The music breaks fucking slap dude. All aboard the hype train!

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    @jednabadla6969 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is this avaliable on spotify or apple?

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    @BrandonJohnson-yb8xn 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Welp, here we go again brain. Thanks for all this content I’m about to gorge myself on.

  • @tentoutoften
    @tentoutoften 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    there is no eng captions 😭, anyone know, how to add auto english captions?

  • @scrantjokester
    @scrantjokester 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    love you.

  • @mothmommay2k
    @mothmommay2k 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Looked up this episode on TH-cam wondering if anyone knows the dubstep track at the end lol

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    @tylerspence7 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Bryan the kid callen sent me here

  • @camilaandreabecerraplata4550
    @camilaandreabecerraplata4550 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hello, everyone. Could someone tell me which were the philosophers mentioned during the podcast? English is not my first language and I'll love to read more about them but I couldn't catch all the names.

    • @baoanh.02
      @baoanh.02 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You can click the subtitle button to see. It's not 100% correct but when you search, google will find the correct name

    • @nicholasbray4854
      @nicholasbray4854 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Here you go in order mentioned I believe:
      Thales
      Anaximander
      Anaxamenes
      Heraclitus
      Parmenides
      Zeno (mentioned in passing)
      Democritus

    • @camilaandreabecerraplata4550
      @camilaandreabecerraplata4550 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@nicholasbray4854 thank you :D

    • @nicholasbray4854
      @nicholasbray4854 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@camilaandreabecerraplata4550 No problem. Happy learning my friend.

  • @Thomas88076
    @Thomas88076 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    "Why do you do the things you do?"

  • @rayneweber7636
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    Why a pink highlighter? It's just so descriptive.

  • @fazelally1049
    @fazelally1049 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This seems a bit faster than on Spotify

  • @ItsIDGAF
    @ItsIDGAF ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Joe Rogan sent me here from his interview with adam conover 2019. Im digging this podcast. Its excellent!

  • @KenDelloSandro7565
    @KenDelloSandro7565 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    OoAT ?? I read it's near the black sea, in Asia.

  • @laferrari3027
    @laferrari3027 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Philosophy and Bullet for my Valentine? What more could you want!

  • @Oirausu321
    @Oirausu321 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    hey man, what did you study?

  • @MrNasasak
    @MrNasasak 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice

  • @seanblack4779
    @seanblack4779 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Bring back the power metal interludes!

  • @danielholta5721
    @danielholta5721 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bullet for my valentine! That gave me some good vibes! 14:38

    • @beewills9492
      @beewills9492 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      What song pleaseee lol

    • @danielholta5721
      @danielholta5721 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@beewills9492 cries in vain

    • @beewills9492
      @beewills9492 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@danielholta5721 thx!

  • @junlee3515
    @junlee3515 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    So this is where all the musical modes come from . Ionian dorian aeoliam

  • @herhangibirisi8419
    @herhangibirisi8419 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    İ watched this episode in 0.75 speed it doesn’t mean i am stupid it means my english knowledge is not enough :)

    • @moe5346
      @moe5346 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      It means u are learning

    • @kendrakrust1244
      @kendrakrust1244 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Stupid is as stupid does.

  • @Ganyios
    @Ganyios 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It could be argued that Thales was a meta-physicist, whereas Socrates was the first philosopher because he cared about the natural world and Thales did not as much

  • @unholycritter3448
    @unholycritter3448 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    So, I can only under stand good by being evil, and evil by being good. Without one we would have no understanding of good and evil, nor word for it?
    Need to think on this

    • @unholycritter3448
      @unholycritter3448 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Self reminder rewatch this

    • @grambo7089
      @grambo7089 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I remember reading a quote by someone that said ~ you can only be a truly good person when you understand the depth of your darkness (or something like that). I think it was alluding to the idea that you can't really understand why it's good until you understand what can be lost. You can't understand the value of a life until you understand what is lost when you take one. An idea to ponder rather than an act to carry out I think :p

  • @Lily-sy5gz
    @Lily-sy5gz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    15:50

  • @KenDelloSandro7565
    @KenDelloSandro7565 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The funny thing is that ur ancestors had reason and they were not distracted by modern tv ,etc,they were just as smart as you, probably smarter Mr Darwin

  • @Llamasondeck
    @Llamasondeck 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    it was like living in modern day alabama 😂😂😂

  • @DaBeezKneez
    @DaBeezKneez 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So is thelis the father of philosophy?

  • @frankieg1865
    @frankieg1865 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    0:08:00

  • @marion5869
    @marion5869 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    wait thales like the theorem? wow
    maybe i'll be able to understand his philosophy better then his maths

  • @toyoffice
    @toyoffice 21 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Presocrates was the greatest

  • @changeyourmood8710
    @changeyourmood8710 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    add subtitles please , onwards atleast ........

  • @olgarodriguez2873
    @olgarodriguez2873 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    25:00

  • @brandonjimenez902
    @brandonjimenez902 5 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    @Philosophize This! I #emailed you to informed you that #JoeRogan been #shouting your #channel out on his #podcast

    • @alwayslfg791
      @alwayslfg791 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Also here because of rogan

    • @brandonjimenez902
      @brandonjimenez902 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@alwayslfg791 hope you enjoy his podcast the guy is real good at making it relatable so any one can make useful of the information 😉

    • @DaBeezKneez
      @DaBeezKneez 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Stop promoting joe rogan

    • @katerkarlo159
      @katerkarlo159 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Petes F Who cares if some of you don't like Joe Rogan. Even me writing this is less of a waste of time than you writing about how you don't like Joe Rogan.

    • @katerkarlo159
      @katerkarlo159 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DaBeezKneez Who cares if some of you don't like Joe Rogan. Even me writing this is less of a waste of time than you writing about how you don't like Joe Rogan.