The Tau Empire Is WAY Stronger Than We Think! | Warhammer 40k Lore
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Weshammer pls make a video on Dornian heresy and Roboutian Heresy. Please 🥺🥺.
"and an art style that makes them look exactly like the miniatures" Look, I don't blame you for needing cash, we all gotta eat, and it's not like the in-game models look bad or anything, but it's super obvious you're reading from a script GW made for you when you say things that are blatantly untrue.
I actually gave Tacticus another shot and I’m having a lot of fun with it! Spoke to several people who found it via your videos, just like me. Great video mate, keep up the good work 👍
Hey Wes I assume you heard about GW & Amazons new plans for 40k with Cavill.
What do you think of him playing the big E or one of the Primarch.
He's been a 40k fan boy for years & is the executive producer of the project.
It'd be nice to increase the 40k fanbase with a popular celebrity & Amazon $$ behind it.
Cavill wants to keep the storyline close to the lore.
I'm wondering how long will it be before those twats at the top start screwing everything up.
Tau have one big advantage: very little infighting. Also consistent tech advanments
By very little do you mean just one.
and he's not even fighting them. just existing outside the empire last i checked. just having a target on your back for commiting treason is a lot less of a hassel than actually fighting a war to increase the severity of that treason.@@SordidusFellatio
@@SordidusFellatio Even with the Farsight Enclaves there’s very little conflict, Farsight himself doesn’t want to fight the Tau Empire at all
@@____Carnage____Their empire is also rather small. Come back to me once they have half the words of Imperium.
So... Two big advantages?
I love the Tau because it's like they found a hard drive full of mecha anime and were like "That, we need to build that! Someone build that!"
Row Row Fight The Powah!
"Haha the taus are weebs"
"Yes."
@@gianfrancofassio1367 yesss
Tau Anime is probably lit.
"we can make a religion out of this"
I think the Tau's lack of connection to the warp is one of their biggest strengths
True but their faster than light travel is much slower than warp travel, which is either good or bad, this can be a problem if the tau want to expand to other systems
If Tau will reach an agreement with the Craftworlds to get access to the web in return turning the elves into mechanical beings to save them as a faction if their specie is dyeing this alliance will be the number one force in the galaxy
@@ovidiufarcau243, those arrogant space elves will never willing to make an alliance and share their technology to other races that they consider inferior, they call human something equivalent to monkey or in their language: mon-keigh
@@anhquantran712 well yeah cause humans are monkeys right now the eldar have seen the humans at their peek at the dark age of technology when they were a race that were only second to the eldars godlike tech at that time and I think they would they trade with the dwarves and those are a subspecies if human so we cant rule out the possibility of Tau and eldar twaming
@@ovidiufarcau243 the eldar have no good reason to make deals with a race of upstart galaxy-craving ugly blue fish people, with a pretentious false weakling ideology, that acts as a cover for their dreams of galactic domination
The eldar can't even get along with humans who are phenotypically identical to them
The whole idea that unites the eldar as a race, is the dream of returning the aeldari to their dominant status in the galaxy
They aren't gonna give up their ambitions of a grand return to destiny, and settle for less
Why would they, why would anyone settle for less, when they know they can fight for more, especially when they are good at fighting...
The Tau empire definitely sounds like a better place to live
You are 100% less likely to eat your re-processed grandma as rations whilst living under the Tau, compared to the very real chance of such if living in the Imperium. And I feel like that's a positive aspect to Tau civilisation.
You sounding mad heretical rn bro
The Tau sound like a better place to live than most sci-fi factions ever. I really can't understand any downsides.
@@salsicha5305 well you would be mind controlled, brainwashed, 50% chance of being sterlized from having children, pressed into a random job and remember if ya fail to do what they say its brain worm time.
I would defect in an eye-blink.
I've always viewed the Tau as a armadillo/porcupine. Small but such a pain to kill that no faction can deal with them without catastrophic losses
Good point. Does not apply to the Orcs or the Tyranids, though.
The orc way of infesting a world means they will always pop back up.
The tyranid fleets don't try to hold territory and make resources from the fallen, foe or friend, and may well outnumber every faction in the galaxy.
Tau ingenuity may win out, but that is far from certain.
Chaos presents similar problems for the Tau as well.
@@Exxeron-ob3tv The thing is that the tau know how to deal with the orcs, there is no other races they fought against more often. And chaos just doesnt really get a lot of oppertunities to attack the tau.
Interestingly enough the tau ae decent against the tyranids. Sure if they get hit by a larger hive fleet they would lose to numbers but they can defend against splinterfleets and smaller arms very well due to their diverse tactics. The nids have a hard time keeping up since adapting takes them a while
@@Exxeron-ob3tv i have a queston, what if the Szarekhan dynasty were to ally with the Tau empire because the Szarekhan dynasties main goal currently is to wipe out tyranids and chaos and the Tau do pretty well against tyranids, not as well as the necrons because the necrons counter the tyranids in every single way but useful help
@@Exxeron-ob3tv i thought that chaos really had no sway on the tau as they have tiny souls lol
@@roberonin7400 Soul size doesn't matter. It's how you use it. And stop stereotyping T'au males.
I believe that the Imperium could beat the Tau in an all out war, but that it would take up so many resources, that the effort would leave the Imperium open on other fronts. Plus, both Tau and Imperium share many enemies.
FOR THE TOW!!!
thats literary why Tau still alive. Every fraction is dont extincted tau yet 'cause due to excessive power and resource usage, other fractions is not willing to sacrifice that much power for some brainwashed fish cows
there is also the fact that Mechanicus have...taken an interest in Tau tech and them, i mean if the imperium was a bit more progressive im pretty sure the Tau would be turned into cogitator like servitors or just enslaved, while not ideal for them, its suprisingly progressive for the Imperium.
This also gave me an idea, imagine Tau civilians and soliders picked off by giant titans with mechatendrites, War of the Worlds style, and their brains being dumped into giant think-tank type water tanks.
I believe that The Tau Empire would be able to win a war,provided it was on their terms
If the Tau is on the defensive the cost would be unthinkable for the imperium.
I'm here because Witcher and Superman is now crating a show about a sci-fi universe I barely knew existed. And I'm immediately absolutely fascinated
it'll take a while for you to understand the gist of things, start with weshammer's 40k timeline video, then watch some videos explaining each faction like the ncrons, tyranids, tau, imperium, eldar, and chaos because these are the main factions, the important guys, then learn each factions history, after you have officially become a beginner in 40o lore
You got 30 years of lore to catch up on.
We have been waiting for you
Welcome young scholar, you have alot of study to do
you mean Henry Cavill
I'm late here but in the Farsight series of novels, a Tau water cast did in fact become possessed by a daemon. It's a major part of the story. Maybe it's bias because the Tau are my faction and O'Shovah is my favorite 40K character and I know a lot of people aren't fans of Phil Kelly's writing, but I thoroughly enjoyed the Farsight books and I highly recommend them to anyone interested in his story or the Tau in general.
A few others pointed this out, super interesting stuff! I've added them to my too read list 😃
Came here to say the same thing
The tongue scene and fruit scene with Water Spider still makes my stomach churn a bit. Just how it was explained gets me.
The Tau are also very interesting because they have to play such a careful balancing act. They have to be very careful about the rate they take worlds, they have to expand while not being seen as too much of a threat by the imperium to warrant a massive response while also being seen as just dangerous enough to not be worth the resources.
The Tau are in the unfortunate position of being between Ultramar and the Sautekh dynasty. That's some terrible real estate to try and expand into.
@@marinesinspace6253 Not counting tyranids fleet,a craftworld and a massive ork empire... Yeah they are close to everything because they want to be able to fight everyone but that also mean their place is a shit hole
its like microsoft trying to buy activision-Blizzard
Make it look good enough to investors to dont make em think 60bil is a crazy expense but also make regulators think this is by no means a large enough acquisition to warranth bothering with
There is an example of a Tau being possessed by a daemon of Tzeench and even developed psychic powers when he touched an unshielded imperial warp drive in the novel Farsight: Crisis of Faith
Oh yeah. It was a water cast Tau named Por Malkor or something like that. The other water cast Tau tease the fuck out of him cause his demon is cursed to tell nothing but the truth, in which case it would be incredibly difficult for water cast members. They even call him "The Water Spider" cause like those bugs, he only can skim the surface of double meaning and nuance, but not go down deep into it. It really makes you feel bad for Por Malkor as you watch his suffering under possession.
It could potentially be one of the reasons why the Ethereals suppress knowledge about chaos: maybe the Tau actually can have Warp abilities naturally in a small way or be possessed by demons willingly which could directly endanger the Ethereals rule
@@user-ui8nx8ul9dthis makes sense. Being 40k, if the tau civ dosent believevin warp stuff then it has no vulnerability to it. If however it was revealed that thry are just as succeptuble to the warp as any human… and as a society they start believing it.. no bueno. So the tau could just be under some mass latent psychic created “placebo” effect.
keep our precious blue babies from the warp
Ew. Phil kelly
It's always nice to hear T'au lore from someone that doesn't have audible contempt in their voice
Tau win just cause, that's the main problem. The second is they aren't human, so I hold contempt for anything that isn't human in 40k including that one primarch that is blue.
One interesting thing about the Ethereals is that after returning to the T'au Empire to help Farsight and his soldiers were still immune to whatever influence Ethereals possess, meaning that either individual T'au are affected differently or the influence isn't as strong as some think. There is also the possibility that being away for so long weakened it's effect on T'au from the Enclaves.
Or maybe the fact that the whole Mind Control was too far fetched to be real.
@@apolloknight9521 no unfortunately in one of the Farsight books Crisis of Faith I believe Aun'va literally tells a water caste member to kill themselves and they do.
@@apolloknight9521 vastly more likely that if they do have it within their presence it acts similar to things like chaos corruption.
once you know that it's there trying to manipulate or force something on you it loses alot of it's teeth
I am of the opinion that the ethereal mind control isn't a downside to the tau but actually that would 100% make me willingly defend them. If they *didn't* do it I'd think they are lesser good guys
@@apolloknight9521 I don't think it's quite "Mind control" but highly advanced Deep Suggestion. Which would be a reason why Farsight's incredibly disciplined troups are immune.
One fun comparison I’ve seen is that the Tau are basically like the Dominion from Star Trek. Such comparisons inevitably conclude with “That’s right; the 40k universe is so grimdark, it makes the DOMINION look like GOOD GUYS!” xD
That's a pretty good comparison, as the Dominion was very friendly and positive to its own worlds, as long as they saw themselves second and the grand plan of the Dominion first.
Woe to any who switched those priorities 💀
There is a fun alternate universe named Brighthammer where every faction become its idealized mirror (space marines really are noble space knights, eldars trustworthy sage aliens, etc etc)...
Meanwhile, the Tau are the biggest bad guys of the setting because they stay exactly the same lol.
@scarocci7333 yeah. You put the Tau in any other setting and they're the bad guys but since the Tau are in 40k the stuff they do isn't as bad as the stuff other factions do.
As a Tau player I'm excited to see you cover them well! You made a lot of good points that a lot of players don't realize. One possiblecorrection, in the first Farsight novel, I believe there was one singular Tau who became corrupted. Its been a while since I read the book, but I believe he was a water caste who ended up either going crazy or being corrupted by touching some artifact.
A couple other people pointed this out and I have added it to my reading list! It sounds really interesting! :)
I fairly recently read this one. It was a water caste that got possessed from a artifact but it took awhile because of how small a presence the tau actually have
Is Farsight a good spot to start reading some Tau novels it sounds like? This video has me wanting to read some of them. :D
@@spikebeargrin1617 Yes! It is THE book to start with Tau!
I know this is and old comment but I think it's cool that wes generates a community that promotes all faction supporters in to watch. Feels better than the standard lore channels.
One main thing I would also like to point out. They are easily the youngest empire out of pretty much every faction. I feel that they are a glimpse of what the dark/golden age of technology was like before the AI revolt.
We’ve seen glimpses of pre fall humanity
A canon that fires black holes and sends its target afew seconds back in time
A canon called by the fans the continuity gun that erases all memories of the person shot from everyone
I think that the first faction that can recognise their own shortcomings will be the first to truly rise above the rest
They do learn from their mistakes, the Tau in the current setting is vastly different from the Tau when they are first brought into the fold.
Tau are like the anime protaganist at the start of a story.. everything is happy , great and going well.. untill something horrible is bound to happen that makes it all come crumbling down. The core Tau species might be immune to warp influence but what about all the other species, including humanity that come into their Empire.. ? That could spell disaster down the line.
Tau already had a horrible test that really stroke them hard and that was the Damocles crusade
I feel like Tau and Imperium can be described like this:
*Tao* despite being smaller in number of combatants, they are much more advanced technologically and can negotiate with other species in order to gain victory at lower or possibly no casualties.
*Imperium* is much bigger number-wise and their path of constant warfare makes them more combat hardened, but also unwilling to negotiate under the mindset of "You're with me or against me" and their stagnation or even regression technology wise caused by both fear of the past and the power of the church, makes them unable to go above, learn and advance and instead see people as a resource in a never ending war against everyone that isn't human.
Imperium are more like "you're with me until that dude/demon/bug is dead"
@@RandomPerson-tz7wk well that was until gman came back and while depressed is currently unfucking the inperium posthaste
A major benefit of the Tau is that due to their smaller size and Caste structure, they can focus on bringing up the forces and populations they do have to far better standards than the average Imperial counterpart. So long as they match the pace of any future expansions with the ability to reliably consolidate and cement their gains and bring everything up to spec, they can deal with most things that come their way and expect reasonable odds of victory.
I wonder what happened to those 2022 Twitter-HomoChimpanzees species in 40k , did they evolved into a completely seperate human species , or did they get wiped out ?
So. Basically. RUS vs. UA.
The way I got into Warhammer 40k was a game called fire warrior all the way back in 2003. They were the my favorite race from that day forth.
That game was terrible, but it got some kind of charm, I still remember a good chunk of it
Surprised you came out with a good impression of the series after that, I heard it’s a buggy mess
I remember it aswell, had to play through the entire thing in one sitting since m memory card was broken back then.
My buddies were in disbelief when I shared fighting an aspect of Tzentch 😂
Thats exactly how I got into Tau too, that game has stuck with me, people say its bad but I can't remember if its good or not lol, I just remember loving the Tau... but that chainsword sound scarred me lol
dark crusade and Dow 2 retribution where the only games for 40k I had for years I thought it was just a RTS series for years until 2017 or 2018 when Russian badger put out his space marine video and talked about lore
GW should definitely put some emphasis on the Tau auxiliaries as a sort of neutral alien faction. Empires under the Tau doing their own thing as a collective army of the Tau
Agreed the kroot and vespids are awesome I'm honestly disappointed that GW hasn't expanded them yet.
kroot used ot have a codex back in... i think 5th edition.@@rickysullivan7584
@@rickysullivan7584 It's sadly always been their Achilles heel when it comes to developing factions. It took forever for GW to make the Sisters of Battle and Inquisition a proper line of models and we were begging for almost 20 years. They introduce some amazing subfaction models and then just leave the concept hanging to deliver some new Space Marines. As someone with a Tau army, I would absolutely love to see the Kroot, Vespid, and Humans given major updates and the other species in the Tau Empire on par with what Kroot/Vespid have now. I would love to see Galg merc bands and Thraxian squads to rush the enemy and go toe to toe with Khorne Bersekers. There are some great opportunities to balance out the Tau playstyle to put them on par with Imperium factions, where players can choose what style fits their personal taste.
This is the first T’au video I’ve seen that really delves into the strengths of the T’au and puts them in a positive light… am I dreaming?
Because this seems too good to be true! While I don’t disregard the other T’au videos from other TH-camrs that attempt to show the T’au in a positive light, there’s really not that much.
So far, Weshammer is the only TH-camr that delves into the strengths and weaknesses of the T’au.
I love your chaos AI theory. It's far more interesting and thematic than just "AI too smart, therefore AI turn into murderhobos" for the 100th time. It's a great way to use what 40K has to make it unique, interesting, and make sense.
And there used to be old Chaos Androids from 3ed which had models that looked like old Necrons.
@@PeachDragon_ that's why we have Tyranids, orks, and the origin of all fuckery in the galaxy: Necrons
Yup. Also made me think of the Sentient from Warframe - AIs that became advanced enough to gain souls. Since if cognition in a biological mind can gain a soul, why couldn't a machine's?
Personally i like to think that they directed the AI to eradicate Chaos, and the ai concluded that was only possible by eliminating every warp sensitive species. This also explains why the Eldar helped with the wars.
Isn't there a C'tan shard of the Void Dragon chilling in the core of Mars that started the A.I uprising by basically hacking them?
The Imperium won't commit itself to wiping out the Tau at least as long as the Orks, Dark Eldar, Tyranids, Chaos, and Necrons are still around, which is forever. In other words, the Tau is safe.
I always saw the Tau as a very powerful but also very regional faction that the Imperium could probably defeat but it would never be worthwhile, given that they're good neighbors as Xenos go and their interests line up with the Imperium more often than not.
Whenever people say this about the imperium being able to defeat the Tau if it really tried, I always find it weird that nobody mentions the Damocles Crusade.
The Imperium launched a full blown Crusade to try and destroy the Tau, and they were repelled.
I know that whilst the Tau had fought the Crusade to a standstill on Dal'yth, the Imperium only withdrew because of the arrival of Hive Fleet Behemoth.
But that sort of demonstrates the point. The Imperium is so vast and disunited, with so many threats to deal with, that even when they try their very hardest to exterminate the Tau they still can't manage it.
If the Imperium had gone for broke on destroying the Tau then *maybe* they could have taken Dal'yth, a single Sept world, with heavy losses. Then they would be deep in Tau territory, heavily damaged with no reinforcements, and with hundreds of Tau worlds still ahead of them, some of them considerably more fortified than Dal'yth.
And on top of that, had they not withdrawn and instead continued the Crusade and focus on the Tau, Ultima Segmentum would have been absolutely devastated by Hive Fleet Behemoth, Ultramar would almost certainly have been destroyed, and the Imperium would have been decisively weakened for millennia to come.
At the end of the day that was a bare minimum crusade with little effort they underestimated the tau yes but saying the imperium maybe able is idiotic if the imperium could put even a 1/30th of their forces to just the tau the tau are done simply the tau arent enough of a threat to focus on
@@TheYopogothat “crusade” was barely a fighting force to begin with… stop just copying what you hear online. The fighting force the imperium sent to deal with the tau was minuscule. A fart by imperial standards and made the tau crap themselves. A million planets give or take lest you forget… the imperium has simply too much for the tau to ever be a threat in the current setting, and they are mostly only around thanks to the luck of the nids, orkz and other very annoying factions mostly focusing the biggest faction at the moment (well aware that orkz and nids have fought tau on a few occasions but again… small scale comparably)
@@targitausrithux2320 But that's the point.
Those things which you're writing off as luck aren't actually incidental, they're structural weaknesses of the Imperium.
The Imperium is simply too disparate, fighting on too many fronts, and too internally chaotic to be ABLE to send a force bigger than The Damocles Crusade.
*That* is what a full Imperial Crusade looks like going forward, because the Imperium can't aford to pull any more forces away from the task of simply *not* collapsing.
The Imperium mustered what force it could without weakening their other fronts too much, and it tried to destroy the Tau Empire, and it failed.
@@targitausrithux2320Way to miss the point, champ.
Regarding Tau AI, I wonder if it hasn't been such a problem for them because some of their "Greater Good" philosophy gets naturally imparted onto their AI? If they were to have some sort of robot uprising, my money is on it being a corruption or inversion of that philosophy.
That would make for a super interesting story line
I would see a rebellion from them as them interpreting the greater good being the destruction of all higher life forms to stop them from destroying a planets natural recourses etc
@@bensugden1586 Or maybe they see through the Ethereal's BS and decide they gotta go, triggering a sort of civil war.
This makes a lot of sense. Each piece of software written bears a certain resemblance to its author. Just like a novel.
So basically what happened in the film version of I: Robot? AI rising up and conquering their creators... for their own good.
I think if the imperium stopped focusing on stcs and took a page out of the teachings of death watch by using the tech of their enemies as well inventing new things would help it immensely
No that would cause problems amounting to corruption of what ever technology they try develop. The dark mechanicus is proof of going to hog with tech advancements is not a good idea. The imperium will also absolutely wipe out the Tau with sheer numbers if the latter over step their mark.
Sounds like some heresy to me.
More so the Tau. Like Tau plasma weapons making the imperiums version more stable, or more likely not to fail/breakdown than yes. (Heresy from me, but if somehow the Tau ended up helping people of the Imperium that they somehow slowly work together. That'd be neat. >_
@@adtrlthegamer7449 If the Tau and Imperium started working together the galaxy would be safe and the setting would be ruined. So yes, that's 100% pure heresy. But I like your optimism.
@@Seoul_Soldier True, and yeah. I'm sure there'd be more fighting between the two as always.
Thanks.
"Our AI is safe", "We never had corrupted code" and "Nothing bad ever happened" is exactly the type of hubris that might bite you in the ass at some point in time. 😏
The Tau have been my favorite faction since they were first tintroduced. It's sad they don't get more love from the fans (or GW for that matter lol) Based on their progression of technology per amount of time, the more time goes by the bigger of a threat they will become. I think even if they just gained faster travel capabilities, or maybe some warp based travel like the other races, even that alone would increase their threat level.
Man I love your videos. As a long time 40K player and lore nerd, they strike a great balance between informative, fun, and just the right amount of silly in my opinion.
The way I saw the Tau are like a more militaristic version of Stargate Earth. They started out as generally inferior in many ways than most of the powers of the galaxy, but they don't suffer nearly as much from most of the major pitfalls of the major powers and can leverage their localized strength concentrations to better take advantage of any local situation. This, combined with the inertia, disunity or other problems with their various enemies allowed them to learn about other civilizations and reverse-engineer a lot of their technologies and deal with their tactics after initial contact. Additionally, their willingness to do things that the powers wouldn't for various ideological or historical reasons, like making prolific use of AI and being open and inviting to other species, gives them opportunities to grow that other powers simply don't have.
13:06 I think it's important to note that one of the main reasons for this was the outbreak of the Horus Heresy screwing up the developmental trajectory of the Imperium. During the Great Crusade, the Imperium expanded at gratuitous rates, but they somehow managed to keep the entire operation sufficiently stable. There were many issues popping up that they either had to bear for the short term or far more often just patch up with temporary solutions, but it was always the intention to properly fix all of these issues once the galaxy was pacified of any serious threats to Humanity. However, due to the outbreak of the Heresy and the subsequent millennia of decline and decay that happened after, the Imperium could never reach a position where they had the power to actually do any of that. Problems that were once fixable would grow out of control, and what were once simple stopgap measures (I distinctly recall a quote by some Crusade-era Ultramarine captain about how the Thunderhawk was most likely just a temporary stopgap design due to resource constraints and after things stabilize or become more profitable, the Imperium will replace it with a newer, better ship)became the only ways the Imperium knew to deal with a problem, and many times said measures and procedures would decline in effectiveness due to stagnancy or loss in resources, knowledge and frankly any tolerance for creativity.
Prospero Burns - the book talks about Thunderhawks & Dropfalcons being cheap mass produced to supplement the Stormbirds
The problem with this kind of thinking is everyone is so busy looking at their rise that many don't stop to think about the possible plateau. Yes people like the Tau and SGE can reverse engineer technology and get along with alien races but at a certain scale you can't just replace everything willy nilly, you'll run into a technology that you just can't figure out, and there's bound to be an alien race that's gonna be a thorn in your side because surprise surprise they believe different things. I'm sure the Imperium Pre-horus heresy , the Eldar pre-Slaanesh, and he Goa'uld when they were on the rise seemed unstoppable too but other factors and time lead them to plateau on very different levels. Pretty high levels but still they plateaued
Growth is not infinite
Wes: "tau might be stronger than the imperum because of their advanced technology"
Tyranids: "interesting. They taste good though"
Laugh Tau biologist
I’ve always used the Tau in the RTS and upgraded them so they have long range rifles. I was literally shooting my enemies outside of my fog of war lol
Dawn of War I presumed?
@@apolloknight9521 the only one that was good yes.
I would definitely say that the Tau’s goal of the “Greater Good” definitely lends itself to AI better than Humanity’s generally selfish or war-mongering goals, so legitimately their AI may just never see them as dangerous or useless because they agree with the Tau way of life
That and there are quite a few examples of AI not being regarded as tools. Sure standard drones are used as equipment but you have examples like oblatai 08 from the farsight enclaves and ghoskeel pilots prefering the company pf their suits ai and you start to see ai in the tau may not have reason to turn on their creators. Even standard drones are consodered essential helpers rather than canon fodder
@@carlzerris6566 true. And if I remember correctly, there are some instances where the T’au Battlesuit Pilots start bonding or forming friendship with the Battlesuit’s AI. Similar to how the League of Votann treats their Mens of Iron, they treat each other like kin.
@@apolloknight9521 yup that was what i meant when i mentioned the ghostkeel pilots. I might be wrong but i think the keels are the onpy suits with proper ai
Depends on what decisions the AI does. Computers are great at clear objectives, tell them all the rules of chess and they can´t lose, but the more info is required (and often missing) the worse it gets. Tau themselves don´t have a clear idea of what following greater good means, so who knows what their AI does with that, it might follow aetherals like the others, try to rebel against them, start investigating warp technology or just give itself to chaos, anything it consideres "good" for Tau, playing a game it can never know all the rules for.
Plus, AI doesn’t necessarily have to be self-conscious. The ability to think and problem-solve in a creative manner doesn’t require it. Their AIs may just never even have the capability to view themselves as separate entities from the Tau. And you can’t rebel against yourself.
Video idea: how would the galaxy look in 45k or 50k? What would change and who would be the new dominant power?
My own theory, probably heavily biased:
The Eldars are extinct or practically extinct. The Drukharis still survive though. The Imperium is but a shadow of himself, centered around powerful strongholds like Terra or the home planets of some chapters of the Space Marines that were not directly hit by a crisis. A large portion of the galaxy is ruled by the Taus, but far from the majority.
Most of the galaxy is divided between dead worlds left by a tyranid hive-fleet and part of one of the necron empires. In the near future, the galaxy will probably divided between different necron dynasties fighting each other ^^
@@krankarvolund7771 you forgot the ever evolving Orks who will have nothing but gud fights!!
@@Stylenwavin Oh yeah, I thought about talking about the Orks and then forgot XD
@@Stylenwavin wouldnt the orks be devolving considering that they started as krorks and have downgraded to where they are now?
@@plaguedoctor5145 with the increasing threats and rerise of the Necrons, I would like to believe that this will drive the orks to be bigger and stronger to match them. Like they once were. Especially with 'Grazskull Thraka??' leading the main battlefields.
Love these vids, a great narrative and I love how passionate you talk about 40k
As a new player I’ve been using these videos as a crash course in warhammer lore and honestly they are so good!! really easy to understand, interesting and engaging, and I appreciate the clarity on opinion vs fact. These videos are defo a big part of why I’ve gotten so hooked on the world haha
If you want another good channel to look at who goes really in depth about everything and looks at more obscure things but also does shorter videos, then I’d recommend Grimdark Narrator, he makes great videos about 40k.
To summarize: the Tau have potential where the Imperium has stagnation, meaning that given enough time they could grow to be more powerful.
Great video. Definitely liked and subscribed.
so it's at the same "lore-stage" it was when Tau got introduced into the universe... Nothing new tbh
The Tau are on a constant technological incline
The Imperium looks more and more like it's emperor by the day
I'd say the Tau are much stronger than others give them credit for
Until Cawl starts reigniting the Mechanicus’ innovation and invention, like the Primaris and experimenting with Necron tech
@@evanlight2550 He'd be executed for tech heresy within the week
@@evanlight2550 that's a big fucky wucky for the Tau ngl
@@evanlight2550 the moment cawl get the engine running only necrons and nids would be able to slow down the humanity
humans rules xenos drools
Another thing is the Tau aren’t trying to kill their citizens every nine seconds
As a Tau player from the beginning, I have a few theories regarding a lot of the mysteries around them. I'm also working on my own chaos tau kitbash. One of my theories is that the ethereals, or at least the original ones. Are a group of old ones that have survived the war in the heavens. Learning from mistakes of having the physic presence of the Eldar, and the willingness to fight of the kroks. Mellowed out the kroks, and stayed around to keep the tau fighting as one instead of constant infighting and the eventual devolution to the orks we know today. Without the huge physic presence through the warp they are better attuned to prevent chaos corruption. As it is still possible for selected members recorded being possessed or at least influenced by chaos. By direct involvement of an already possessed object/creature/entity. Tau lore even states during the ethereals came out of really nowhere to stop the infighting of the castes. This presence of the ethereals also occurred almost immediately after the fall of the eldar and birth of Slannesh. Now the tau could have already existed and slowly changed to what we now know or Old ones created them during the war of the heavens, being to weak at the time forgotten about.
I believe the only thing truly keeping the Tau from being considered more of a threat than the Eldar (ALL Eldar as one faction) is that the Tau don't have true warp travel or anything else to match it.
They have quality over quantity. In a number of factors they hold the advantage. The thing is from numbers alone the Imperium has it.
Yeah, the fact that the Tau are so small and relatively concentrated in their area of space and their vastly less corrupt and more efficient system, they can actually afford to bring up all of their forces and colonies to better standards than the Imperium ever could.
@@fadelsukoco3092 Plus you are comparing the Tau that just can deal with their own shit to the empire that's basically holding the whole galaxy against the horrors that would destroy it.
It only takes one book of GW to completely throw their complete balance out of order. As soon as they can't govern their planets in relative peace and would need to increase their planets outputs to counter a bigger nid invasion or a big chaos invasion or a massive Waagh then I doubt that their systems would look that happy anymore.
But… but… they don’t even take part in glorious melee combat!!!
@@willyboy7141 well yeah, why else do you think they are marked for purging? Big E was all for diplomacy till he found out from the chief banana that his waifu is allergic to swords.
They still have a lot of room to grow and has a lot of potential among other races.
I say that they're the strongest one, considering their age of civilization and what they achieved, but they just still young.
As a long time Tau fan, I see it like this. The Tau is the thematically the last hope the milky way has to produce an empire. I don't think after the Tau any other civilization will be lucky enough to grow out of this war torn hell hole that is the milky way galaxy. So, will the Tau follow the same path as the Eldar, Necrons, Humans that came before it? Rise up, just to come crashing down and become husks of their former selves? Or will the unity of the Tau stay strong and be a beacon of hope for the races of the galaxy to rally around and break the cycle that seems to plague every sentient race in the galaxy?
We both know the answer:
The T’ua will rise above all on the wings of the Greater Good.
Mind control
its not like they already have rebels occupying whole planets when theyre just at 100 worlds, imagine how divided they will be at a million
Leagues of Votann are younger than Tau and got their sh*t together.
nah screw that ENDLESS STALEMATE WAR FOREVER WOOOO
Finally, someone who can articulate Tau superiority
I’ve also done a thought exercise along these lines. One of things you missed is the fact that the imperium can react faster through warp communication and travel, whereas the Tau still stuck with the slow, deep, sleep through deep space.
I would love to see some lore come out with the Tau and the empire teaming up against the Tyranids. The ethereals meeting the hive mind/primarchs would be sick.
Most probably impossible
I wonder if the new Daemon demigod of Technology/Invention had something to do with Humanity’s Dark Age of Technology and the revolt of the Men of Iron.
hi captain you lost me please can you explain it to me ???
@@jonathanmora8208 There's a new demigod coming out with this whole Arks of Omen storyline, and its whole thing is technology/innovation. I'm just pondering the idea of maybe part of why the Men of Iron turned on humanity had something to do with humanity at the time giving that innovation demigod a lot of power by accident.
@@HadrosaurHero he's not necessarily a daemon because the chaos gods didn't create him. He's more like a mini chaos god kind of like drachnyen. I think he makes lots of advance tech for chaos like an arms dealer combining the warp with science.
Honestly this dark of technology doesn't seem like the utopia that people think it is.
Maybe there was more to it that just men of iron/ ai rebellion. There may have been multiple rebellions. Or maybe there was a civil war that had humanity and machines on both sides so it's not a cut and dry rip off of terminator or x men days of future past or dune.
Lol, Wes knowing his audience so well, he literally puts in trigger warnings, I can't even xD
When you’re in the Warhmmer Fandom and your faction happens to be the least favorite you should expect who you’re dealing with.
@@apolloknight9521 People getting triggered over other people preferring another set of plastic figures is still hilarious at the very least.
The Tau sound more and more like the Federation adding worlds and peoples to their union.
I always thought the fact that the Tau drones look like helmets and the servo-skulls are... skulls, was not an accident. Making the Tau as a society overall was an allegory for a humanity before its fall.
Tau average life span of 40 is one of the most major issues when compared to all other factions
And tbh the aeldari aligning with the Tau would be there best bet because other then psychic defence and advisory positions, they could co-exist well
You forgot one important mention. Their space travel is very slow compared to the Imperiums. It takes them much longer to go from world to world (they don't use warp travel). The Tau is usually outnumbered by all their enemies on most battlefields. If a large Tyranid fleet decided to hit Tau worlds it stops their expansion by a large percentage.
Only way I can see the Tau actually coming out on top is actually working with the Imperium. Which seems more and more likely with Gulliman's open minded ideas.
Problem is i think for that to happen, Farsight will need to launch a massive coup on the main Empire to bring them to how he operates the enclaves which is basically keeping their noses out of others buisiness and only make waves when it really effects them.
Actually, Tau do quite well against the Tyranid fleet. So well that many Tyranid fleet actually briefly stop going into Tau territory due to how much biomass they lost over gain
@@toheekang174 was it because of the Plasma eating way their biomass? Also where did you get this tidbit of information? Just curious. I would like to read about it.
@@apolloknight9521 it is the way they fight. They prefer long range combat which is bad enough for the Tyranid. What more is that since their presence in the warp is dim, the Shadow in the Warp don’t have much effect on the Tau. Though that doesn’t mean they don’t struggle with them at all.
Unfortunately Wes loves to leave out half the details that prove him wrong in his videos especially with the tau. And the other 50% is basically him just making s*** up
this just makes the tau sound OP, and i love it.
i just recently started collecting T'au, so seeing them get some love really makes me feel nice
Imperium: Throws bodies at problem.
T'au : Punch above weight class.
Like Wes said you gotta remember 2000ish years ago they were effectively cavemen and are now on par with technology from mankind that's wild progress if given 10,000 heck even another 1,000 years they may very well be on par with mankind's golden age.
Dude, a hundred years ago we were bayoneting each others all over Europe and we got drones and a spacial station now. The Tau tech improvement is just average and it was thanks to the League, not themselves.
@@jamie_d0g978 the point is that it took humans 7000 years to get where we are now after we left the stone age (never mind how long we stayed in the stone age). Meanwhile the Tau in far less time than that build an interplanetery multi species Empire made out of atleast 700 planets (yes the 100 planets is incorrect and the number is most likely way larger than 700).
Not only is Wes way f****** off on his timeline, but about half this video is provably made upm It gets so old watching him make these f****** videos because he gets butthurt that the entire fan base makes fun of him constantly, and then if you knew people that watch him end up spewing his shit to everyone else as if it's true
@@jamie_d0g978 his whole point of the tau having allies is dumb , what race would choose to fight the empire, the votan?
@@_NIKOS9_NIKOS 7000 thousand years ago stone age? Fir real? Look, yes, the Tau are supposedly hyper fast developing technology, it's just that the numbers are fuckin dumb. They are not impressive at all and that makes the case for the biblical amount of plot armor needed to keep them not only alive but relevant in the galaxy.
Quick Question, are you gonna do more deep dive videos again? I enjoy getting to know a faction I’m unfamiliar with in one video
I plan on it but I had to mix the content up a bit to keep from getting burnt out. I'll be back to them soon
@@weshammer variety is good to stay healthy. i too love the deep dives. im satisfied with having one every month or two with smaller content in between. looking forward to your future content.
@@weshammer Your health is totally more important than any video ^^
Big Tau fan, played mostly them in DoW1 and they are badass. To me, they are a much needed addition to the universe, as a faction that introspects rather than expand mindlessly, and doing things the right way before choosing to march further. Don't even need to expand that much because it's only going to be a liability, as observed by other factions. Efficiency, high-tech, and a hope for the future is what makes them tick, but they are cool exactly because they live in such an universe, and choose to an alternative way to prosper.
Ok if I ever start playing table Warhammer I'll definitely play tau
25 billion Crisis Suits vs 1 kriegsmen seems like a pretty balanced fight to me.
Math is off anyway; it assumes the 4 castes are evenly distributed, and no one, not even the Imperium have one quarter of its entire population as soldiers, I would put it closer to 10% and even that is pretty generous.
And even if 10% of a hunter cadre may be wearing a crisis suit, it's highly unlikely that the quartermasters, trainers, creche minders, military police, cooks, and all the other small, non-combat roles that makes a military force operate would not. The number would likely be closer to a billion. And this is only pilots, it doesn't mean there are one billion battlesuits available for every single one of them to use.
@@SH-qs7eenot adding the kroot and the other xeno races under their banner.
@@SH-qs7ee Actually all pilots have a suit given to them and gets replaced or fix depending on the damage. worse still is thats one billion on one world. if you add all the worlds they own then ya space marines are completely screwed.
@@SH-qs7ee Unlike us the Tau specifically designate people to do 1 job and just that one. Outside of the Air caste nobody else but the Fire Warriors ever even touch the military and we have already seen plenty of times smaller countrys mobilise huge portions their population even in medieval times through simple recruitment like "oldest son of each family"
It's never kriegsman vs. enemy's it krirgsmen vs lack of Health and Safety Protocols
There has only been one instance in which a Tau was possessed by a demon, though it was a technicality. Por Malcaor, a member of the Tau's Water Caste (the diplomats, linguists, and merchants of the Tau Empire) interacted with part of a marchine that produces Gellar fields for Imperial ships and got blasted with Warp energy as a result.
I would call that case of possession an isolated incident. It is very rare for a Tau to have access to Gellar field tech as that would mean being on a human ship and most humans can't stand to even be on the same planet as another alien in this universe.
In recent history with tau finally experiencing the warp and choas I dough they'd be as immune as people thing. The wrap doesn't affect them because they don't notice them but because the tau has started using the wrap they will and have attracted the deamons. Farsighted already has khorn trying to influence him
they do have an alternative to warp travel, which is their lightspeed travel. its significantly less efficient than the warp but is completely safe
You're a bit off tho, the warp doesn't effect them but it does effect certain auxillary races like the humans. The part you're referring to is when they attempted warp travel and were attacked by daemons on their auxillary races but said races actually created a god/entity which is Tau'va. Also no Farsight himself isn't influenced by Khorne, Khorne just has a interest in Farsight because to put it in laymans terms, he's red and uses a demonic sword to fight and extend his life. Tzeentch is interested in the ethereal because since the tau is in unity Tzeentch decided "I wanna fuck around with them and cause disorder".
@@shekstein8396 no tau does have a presence in the wrap, it's very small but there is a presence, theyfucked around and found out when they traveled though hells back yard. I never said he is influenced, I said khorne is trying to, and no one at this point knows why or how greater good has manifested if those rumours are true, but a collective strong believe of anything even by a race with a tiny presence would also manifest a god if there is no god to represent it.
If the empire gave the tau a couple worlds in exchange for help with their everything they'd be chillin but ya know
I feel like the Tau have an incredible potential for growth as a species. They'll easily outpace the self-sabotaging empire in the next 10k years.
They don’t have 10,000 years though. The Tau would be lucky to get a couple hundred years before the Necrons or Tyranids could wipe all life from the galaxy.
@@Nobleheart111 necrons may not. While they have a large amount of soldiers now, they don't have a reasonable way to increase their numbers. Every battle is a unrecoverable loss of "life" which leads them to always getting weaker and weaker and with their war with every other force in the universe they may not make it all that far either. The tyrids will take over. They are unstoppable especially if there is more outside the galaxy and the current ones are just the scouts
@@dmrollings You should check Dead Men Walking, it was a while since I read it. It's focusing on Death Korps of Krieg but it shows the Necrons as unstoppable force. They are taking their wounded / dead back into their furnace coming out as new again :).
@@dmrollings necrons have the luxury of being very uninteresting for the tyrids at least. They have the best odds of stopping them, or just being ignored,.
@@dmrollings Necrons could have 1 Necron left and still have the potential for wiping out all life in the galaxy. So long as their level of technology is intact and available, they have the potential of eradicating everything. The Star Tide Nexus remains. Who knows what else they may have up their living metal sleeves.
I think if the imperium and the enclave can somehow tolerate each other to work toward a common goal, that would be a book I am willing to buy. Imagine a rag tag bands of imperial guards, fire warriors and stealth suits team try their hardest to cross the battle between other factions, like Ork vs Tyranids or Necron vs Eldar.
Bro I love your videos, thank you!
25:56 I actually have a theory on this. The tau were saved by a warp storm when they were first discovered and have been shielded from many invasions by similar storms.
We know there are entities in the warp that are trying to restore the war into the Paradise at once was.
With the low to almost nonexistent warp presence. entities in the immaterial would definitely want to replace human populations with tau populations.
I feel like if the imperium Fell the Tau are mostly likely going to be the New Dominant Super Empire
Their ftl is even worse than the imperiums, they would grow, but most territory would be taken by other factions far before the tau can reach the planets
@@randomimperialguardsmanfor9342 Seems like you arent considering the obvious. Tau could easily in couple of years to just have human drivers for their warp drives. Lot of humans seem to like em in the corner of the imperium
@@Jebu911 they tried, they failed, the tau can't really perceive the warp and techpriests aren't exactly flocking to them, they captured an imperial ship intact and tried to use it, i'll give you 3 guesses on what happened to the ship
Don't they mean simply let humans fly the ships? The worst that could happen is exactly what happens on human ships now
yeah it's definnitely hard to understand how something works when you ask the people who run it how it works and they're like "sooo we pray to it and talk to it real nice and hope we don't blow up" and the tau are like "hold up wut? that doesn't make any sense." @@randomimperialguardsmanfor9342
I'm so glad you made this video. The Tau is lowkey my fave faction
I have my own head-lore faction consisting of some Imperial Guardsmen, Tau, and Eldar, who after a lengthy period on some planet cut off from both the Tau and Human empires, making temporary alliances to fight off forces from other factions (Drukhari, Chaos, Orks, etc.), decide to make their alliance a more-or-less permanent thing and slowly begin to put aside their mutual xenophobia. It's the most natural long-term alliance possible in the WH40K universe. The Orks will simply fight, the Tyranids and Necrons want to kill everything else, Chaos wants to subvert everybody, the Drukhari want to torture everyone to death, and the Space Marines and Sisters are too indoctrinated. If I didn't have so many irons in the fire right now I might write a novel or two to explore the topic.
You can write some short stories and “imaginary extracts” basically make point in time chapters acting as if it’s a completed book that you’ve taken part of and post it online.
If it takes off you may have collaboration.
I always loved the design of the Tau
My running idea is that the T'au are chronomancy outshot of Necrontyns and even if not, I kinda like the T'au.
I would love to see the Squats make an alliance with the Tau. That team up would be amazing to see in action
You can see it in the game Gothic armada 2. The T'au have one Demiurge ship.
I think that would make the vast majority of 40k fans suddenly like the Tau. Either that or they'll react the same way they did to Ward's Blood Angels.
they sorta do that with the demiurg, which now are retconned into being kin, but i feel like most brotherhoods would... not fully ally, but start trade partnerships with the tau that would be hella profitable for bogh. the tau wouldnt dare to attack them to assimilate them since the kin would warn them about doing something like that would be idiotic
@@michelecastellotti9172 that’s the idea. They do have trade partnerships, which is one of many reasons why the T’au has Ion Weaponry.
@@apolloknight9521 i know. The Kin gave them their unreliable weapons, cut forward a few hundred years and the tau upgraded the ion weapons to be nearly on par with necron weapons of the same caliber.
I love that you dropped a heresy warning lol
The T'au need to have miniatures that represent the many, many Xenos races under their command.
One thing who will make you fear the Tau, imagine if they meet a necron dynasty with a leader who not so racist (after all, every overlord has his own personality so we can imagine one who is nicer), or the overlord think it’s good idea to use this species for his plan, and they make an alliance, so the Tau obtain some necron technology and with that they can boost all their machines. Imagine a species efficient like the Tau withe Necron technology. It will be wild
Yes! The Xenos alliance of my dreams!
The thought of that made me shake.
That’s amazing!
You know that there is a theory that the Tau are actually an offshoot of the necrontyr (probably the no nose situation xD)
The 40k version of forerunners.
It would ultimately result in diminishing returns, but I believe you overestimate how deeply The Imperium would need to commit to wiping out The Tau. The Damocles Gulf Crusade only failed because of the more pressing threat of the Tyranids necessitating a withdrawal. Last I checked, The Tau don't have a ready answers for any titan larger than a warhound either.
Didn't they start building bigger mechs after they saw actual titan.
@@RandomPerson-tz7wk they Built a Big mech for Defense for "The unknown" the T'aunar supremacy armor, that and they're very much relying on low orbit bombardment from Smaller capital class ships
The T'au do actually have counters to Titans in recent lore, usually sending Manta drop ships to deal with the problem, but mostly Capital ships shooting that thing from low orbit
@@RandomPerson-tz7wk Right, but I remember learning somewhere that for Stormsurges to even reasonably take on a Warhound, it has to be three-on-one with the benefit of an ambush. Void shields are stupidly OP in the lore.
When titans first showed up yes the tau didn't have a response except for asking for orbital support from Manta drop ships. As time passed the tau experimented on making their own large suits (these became the Stormsurge and Tau'nar, both of which by earth caste and fire caste standards were inefficient) due to the fact losing Mantas was starting to become costly.
Eventually they decided on creating a dedicated aircraft that hunts titans which became the AX-10 Tiger shark which were infinitely cheaper to produce and by sheer numbers could wear down even a warlords voidshield before the crafts twin rail cannons tear into the undefended target. Sure they'd lose what 3-4 tigersharks to the engagement nut that nothing compared to losing a warlord.
Thank the Emperor, you've lost the bandana! Now I can finally watch your videos.
In the grim darkness of the far future, there is only Weshammer's logic.
And verily, it is excellent.
I would love to see more of the allied species get some attention in the model categories, some of the lore on them is old but modified to include the Tau but even a few elite shock troops or just the Vorgh to give them another giant unit.
Then GW has to explain why these species are not used in tabletop or the lore.
@@apolloknight9521Unfortunately the lore on them is incredibly scattered but a few go back to the early lore so like the Squats could be brought up to modern standards. It's tiring seeing such units popping up from 3rd printed rip offs.
There was one tau I think known as the spiderwalker who was a water tribe member. He was considered a failure due to his inability to lie to people and was possessed by an exiled demon of tzeentch. Though the demon remarked that he would have to sacrifice alot of tau to make up the difference in their warp signature.
As an austrian I can safely say
amassing a ton of different cultures in your nation is not the best idea
As a human on planet Earth, I can agree. Empires fall when they incorporate too many cultures.
Yeah, yeah inquisitor that’s him right there heresy that’s all I need to say ( phenomenal video by the way excellent editing, and quality your channel )
I feel like the current "United" imperium under g' man can smack the tau hard enough that they won't ever border the imperium for a few hundred years, but defeating the tau is a way different story
I feel it’ll take a second primarch to even attempt to take the tau out and either would do if any would come back
Considering that one of the most sane primarchs is running the Imperium there wouldn't be any major conflict between them, maybe some minor skirmishes and maybe a temporary form of alliance
@Дмитро Дорофеєв Yeah, I feel he would see a group that has most of the same enemies and won't strike first against the Imerium as at worst a non issue, and a potential ally at best.
A tau did get possessed, it was a water caste member but for it to happen the tau literally touched a warp drive. I recommend reading the Farsight novels for more details. and it not a spoiler happens in the first quarter of the first novel
Wish I could see a chaos tau faction, like a Tau Ethereal gets warped by chaos and then spirals from there
For those that do not know, the sikatrix maledictum is a giant wrap storm scar that created a giant impassible reef from the northwest to the southeast corners of the map. It was created when the anti-warp barriers overloaded and the planet Cadia exploded.
Great video Wes. If i was living in the 40K era I'd straight up make a bee line for the Tau territory and live there. Yeah the Imperium may be bigger but bigger don't all ways mean better. At least living on a Tau world would save me from having to eat Corpse Starch 🤮 I know if i was forced to eat that stuff I'd live in a state of constant rebellion.
When it comes to AI, I like the idea that it was a genuine AI rebellion without Chaos involved, but as we've seen, AI can be as different as people but they can individually have a higher impact. A single, super powerful AI can orchestrate an entire war effort, Galaxy wide, especially considering the capacity of ancient humanity. Not saying that it was a single AI, but that it would only take a few bad apples to really cripple the Galaxy. Thus, I would love to see a story of the Tau fighting against a rogue AI of their making and dodging the bullet, but coming out of the event VERY shook and more understanding of the Imperial Embargo on AI and in true 40K fashion, the event is shortly ignored and "lost" in order to maintain the status quo.
It would probably be buried but the Earth Caste would be given the 'task' of finding a way to ensure that it doesn't happen again...and probably lead them to attempt to copy Necron Command Protocols (or reverse engineer them if they ever got an intact Necron to examine)
It makes a lot of sense that the AI rebellion had nothing to do with Chaos,
Now that we know there are still a ton of Men of Iron, living as equals with the Kin
Its just that the Kin treat them like friends and family, as such...they did not rebel
That was some major heresy I just watched
This video definitly contributes to the greater good!
Dude I Fucking love your videos
There’s a bunch of reasons why but it mostly comes down to your love and enthusiasm for the lore
Your passion and dedication makes your videos hit different
Keep it up I can’t wait to see where you go from here 🖤🖤
In my opinion I think the Tau's empire works because it is as big as it is, but as it gets bigger I believe that their strengths could and would eventually become weaknesses. Thanks for another good video and thought experiment, with a grimdark 40k flavor
That's honestly a really original perspective on the Tau. If their civilization exponentially grew their doctrine for the good of all could easily be bastardized The same way the emperor's word was after the heresy.
But just to play the devil's advocate I see them being more similar to humanity during the Golden age of technology before the men of iron rose. The main difference being that the tau have the hindsight of seeing what humanity did during that period of time and avoiding those mistakes. If you're looking at it that way just imagine what humanity would have been if they never created opened Pandora's box by creating true AI. And on top of that the towel embody an anti-materialistic lifestyle of the craft world eldar which is another variable that would decrease the likelihood of them straying from the path of "good"
If the tau took this path I could definitely see an interesting future where they could have a much smaller force than the imperium of Man would be so advanced that they could actually give them run for their money in all out war. Almost as though they were a fledgling spiritual successor to humanity in the Golden age of technology.
God I would love to see how that scenario played out...
I think both of these potential futures are equally as likely for the Tau but thanks for prompting me to think about these possibilities with your interesting thought experiment.
@@StrengthScholar0 thanks. I appreciate it.
It works because it's not real. All economic principles are ignored in 40k
@@bobjohnson1633 if you say so
Great video
I may not play Warhammer 40k but I really enjoy the tau. From their day to day life and their military weapons and equipment
The Tau are underrated. It seems they run their empire more efficiently run but have yet to deal with the growing pains of an expanding empire or the issues of advancing tech which might force them into a similar trajectory of other factions. Realistically I don't think Imperium of Humanity will wipe them since they are more useful as an ally of convenience for the near future. Now to see if the Tau join the other factions in their fall to the Darkness side or a darker side.
Its sort of already happened with the farsight enclaves.
Though thats more of a civil war via difference of opinion but its a major one as the enclaves dont trust the ethereals. I think its a good source for a future book on how the ethereals affect tau society.
It almost makes you wonder if the ethereals have actual warp psychic powers that allow them to influence the other tau.
Also the imperium will never wipe them out cuz there is little to gain from it. It would cost too much and unlike most xeno races, you can actually negotiate with them.
Not that the imperium will in most cases but as xenophobic as the imperium is, they arent completely stupid.
The only reason the Imperium doesn't wipe out the Tau is that the plot won't allow it. That's it.
GW cares not from whence the money flows, only that it flows and the Tau makes it flow
The Emperor protects!
Unrelated note, looks like you've been losing weight Wes, congrats bud. You look great!
i feel you when you said " i am very professional " i say that alot at work lol
I think the Tau Empire will eventually save humanity in an epic battle.
they dont have to tho, theres already billions of humans in the tau empire, they could start from scratch.
No