freddie hall ...they are idiots and that would be enough to anger anyone !..Just like what was done to my infant daughter and myself ! Terrorizing and torturing for entertainment ! Sick, twisted, psychopathic, clinically /criminally insane !
@DG WASPs didn't have a trust fund but they had slaves and indentured servants to do all their hard work for them. WASPs steal all their wealth from other people. First they stole from the Irish, then when the Irish had nothing left on their little island to steal, the WASPs went to America to steal from the Native Americans and they brought along their black slaves and indentured servants to do all the hard work for no pay. WASP elites dominated American society, culture, and politics for most of the history of the United States, maintaining a monopoly through intermarriage, inheritance, and nepotism. Learn your history buddy!
How does everyone know that he was screwing with them. I didn’t get it. That went right over my head. I feel like a lot of the jokes in this show either go right over my head or I can’t hear them or decipher the words they are actually saying. It’s one really frustrating part about this show to me. Idk if it’s like 2000’s audio or the italian American lingo/acting but fuck it is so frustrating
People do the exact same thing with war veterans, asking about how many people they killed and the worst thing they've seen. It's so common but yeah, to a mob boss it's pretty dumb.
There is a sadness to this scene. Tony thought that these guys were his friends. They only care about him because he is in the mafia and they know that he is connected to people who are in the big leagues of organized crime.
Spit-Shine Philly hey sorry u feel dat way but how bad u want me to feel about that? How u think Africans feel when most people consider the continent one big fuckin country? Or anyone of Arabic or indian decent gettin called a terrorist? Hate to sound like some SJW but the consolidation of CAUCASIANS isn’t nearly as damaging what other ethnicities face.
Most mobsters, made men dont want a lot of people knowing who they are and most of them really would take offense to some wise ass talking around it like that. If you KNOW who they are, its because they are grooming you, marking you, or you are a cop. If its someone who isnt in the mob but has given you reason to think they are, you shouldnt be standing so close to posers, gun fire isnt always so carefully aimed and a bad reputation can be contagious.
@Costa Zambaras The Point is that stories like that are part of the in universe characterization. I know People who can make stuff like that up on the spot. Hell, I can do it on a good day. I was appreciating that Tony was written to be a "troll Genius". Or do you bash People for calling fictional characters badasses because "They ain't!!! They don't exist and are just written that way!!"
There probably was an older wise guy, who wasn't well known to civilians, who outbid Tony for the last Bungaloo Truck. Tony probably just told these guys it was Gotti just to mess with them.
It this scene we are presented with a matured Tony, who has finally accepted the fact that he does not have the makings of a varsity athlete and decided to pursue a career in golf.
Tony looks hurt because he realized that he could never get anyone to respect him who didn’t also fear him. He can never escape the reputation of being a mafia don, and different people will interpret that differently. People can say, “he should put them in their place,” but he doesn’t want that. He just wanted some respect and he knows that the only thing intimidating them would do is alienate himself further. They’re just from a different world.
As a chef it can feel the same way with some people. Obviously not as dark. But people will hound you "What's it like?" "Do you know how to cook steak?" Or my favorite "What's your signature dish?" Chefs haven't had "signature dishes" since like the 70s. I feel bad for military guys that gotta go through the same stuff.
@@JG-id5vi my best friend served 23 years in Marine Recon. He did a lot of covert stuff all over the world. Tony toward the end here so reminds me of how my friend would deal with questions from military fan boys. 😂
at least they are sucessful, youtube boys here are just a bunch of wannabe italian mobster, some wannabe comedian *random shit + SHINEBOX/varsity athlete shit and the wost ones, the motherfucker who "ohhg this scene that it really tries to do is/ohh this scene what the author tried to say was" cocksuckers pieces of shit i fucking hate you all hahahah
What I love about this scene is how the guys were expecting that story to be something badass or whatever, something more akin to the image of mafiosos. And when Tony just tells them a rather innocent and playful story that just involved John Gotti, they're all so confused because they can't correlate any sort of humanity towards Tony or the mob life in general - just stories of killing and mayhem. I don't know if the story was true or not, but I don't think that was the point. It's the same as when Dr. Melfi hears a scream coming from the Soprano household in the same episode. She, along with us, would've assumed it to be some poor guy getting tortured or something just like in the movies, Dr. Cusamono even talks about the brutal torture scene from the movie Casino. When the reality is it was Tony just aggressively working out like a normal person.
@@ehabel-nagar2169 If your from the US..it would mean “jerk off”…if you were from UK it would mean “wanker”…I’m sure there is a translation for every culture/language!
It’s just like when they were barbequing sausages and Tony asked the other one about the stock market. He replied with “ it’s always fucking changing Tony.” They went from pretending like they were content with their pretentiousness, on their high horse with a baseball bat up their ass; and thinking they were above Tony. They pretended like they weren’t interested in him as an alleged Mob figure who they knew of and not interested in impressing him. They were dying to know all the details of the mob life like fans who watch A&E. As for the swearing, I’ve been swearing since I was 7-8 years old. It rolls off the tongue naturally unlike them.
Tony took that pause to look around to create the fake tension of that story they wanted a story and he gave them one and while doing it he was able to intimidate every one of them simultaneously pure genius
The quality of acting in The Sopranos never ceases to amaze me. You later see Tony discussing this experience with Melfi, and for all his gangster toughness and bravado, you could see his hurt at being used as an object of ridicule by Cusamano, someone he had considered to be something of a friend.
Aside from the "ringing the bell" part, I love how Tony makes it sound like they are going to hear a real juicy story, but instead leaves them hanging.
This is my favorite scene. It can teach you precisely how to not care for others. There is nothing wrong with asking people questions and showing interest in their experiences. In fact it is the BEST way of bonding with others and gaining trust and showing that you care. However, the lack of depth and the timing of the questions is what communicates that his experiences are not something they respect as a human experience. My brother went to prison for 2 years. You have no idea how much of the "did you drop the soap?" questions he got when he got out. If any of his friends would make fun of him that way it would cut deep. We actually have great conversations about his time in prison and how prison life mirrors the outside world. I've brought up gay relationships in prison, asking how often it really happens and stuff, but it was certainly not the first thing I greeted him with. It's hard for people to not take this kind of oversight personally, but I think a lot of the time people just don't realize what they are doing. They haven't ever even vaguely tried to put themselves into the other person's shoes. In this scene that's illustrated perfectly by the fact that the questions were way too general to be able to answer in a meaningful way, and when he tries to narrow it down he realizes the guy didn't bother to think about things 1 step into the question.
Cusumano, unlike Tony, was hard working and disciplined. He entered a profession that helps others. In his own way he trys to make the world a better place. Tony had as much opportunity as Cusumano. He could have been a contributing member of society. Instead he chose to be a parasite. He and his associates definitely do not make the world a better place. Calling an Italian American "wonder bread" or whatever is a sign of envy.
This has to be my favorite scene in the Sopranos because Tony doesn’t show anger or his wealth but instead gives them an unreal expectation that they didn’t expect coming.
This scene demonstrates that despite Tony’s ruthless and undeniably evil behavior, he’s hardly a pure sociopath. That type of individual would consider every relationship to be purely transactional and wouldn’t be capable of craving authentic human connection.
Tony Soprano - I remember when I was a kid, there was this guy in my neighborhood. We used to call him Jimmy Smash. Now he wasn’t retarded, but we thought he was because he had one of these, uh, whatchamacallits. “Hey, how the fuck are ya?” What do you call that? Dr. Melfi - Cleft palate. Tony Soprano - Yeah. Well, we was kids, right? So what the hell do we know? Every time he opened his mouth, we’d piss ourselves laughin’. But Jimmy didn’t mind, because he got to hang out with us. Popular crew. Although we only called him when we were bored. Called him, we’d say, “Hey, Jimmy. Sing ’Mack the Knife’.” And because he wanted to hang out with us, he’d belt it right out. We’d fuckin’ roll on the floor laughing. And then, you know, when the laughs got old, we stopped callin’ him. Wasn’t till years later that I found out the poor prick was goin’ home every night and cryin’ himself to sleep. When i found out, you know, I felt bad. But I never really understood what he felt. To be used, you know, for somebody else’s amusement like a fuckin’ dancin’ bear till I played golf with those guys.
They are not trying to be nice. They are treating him like some separate oddity to be watched and poked at for their entertainment. I really hope you are just trolling.
@@andrewbecker9062 The comment is from 7 years ago, they were probably replying to someone else's comment. Now on modern TH-cam, it appears as its own independent comment.
I once had a case involving a fire in a laundromat that the insurance company thought was arson. I was at the deposition of the owner. An Italian fellow, dressed incredibly well, said a lot but said nothing. Every word was considered before he said it. Unbelievable discipline. You just knew the guy was connected. Scared the crap out of me just being in the room with him. I barely dared to breathe too loud. These guys are no laughing matter.
I imagine some part of Tony possibly hoped they would realize it was just a joke and laugh, but they didn’t, leaving him there realizing he was surrounded by a bunch of completely oblivious morons.
@aileen wournos what a pretentious child pretending he’s a lot more mature than he actually is by insulting people for no reason. That it’s a joke and he’s trolling them with the story is what I already said if you were actually reading. What I was referring to as my reasoning is the drawn out pause at the end when he makes that bell ringing hand gesture and waits for their reaction, it seems like he could be giving them the opportunity to realize that it was way too ridiculous to be true. You see this in other pieces of cinema too, especially thrillers, where the characters feign seriousness to create an awkward pause, only for it to be revealed it was all bs. You saying he’s past caring and doesn’t want them to be in on it is just your opinion since your not inside Tony’s head. And to be clear I’m sure he doesn’t care too much either way. All I was saying was some small part of him may have been curious how far he could push the stereotypical view they had of him before they started to disbelieve. It seems he never found that limit.
@aileen wournos okay this is just a waste of my time. First you were saying they aren’t in on it and he doesn’t want them to be, now you’re saying they do get it and they’re just too scared to say anything. How about you figure out which story to go with before you start telling me I’m the one who doesn’t get it?
@aileen wournos oh so your made up your mind that’s nice. It is possible to figure out somethings a joke even when it’s at your own expense. I don’t know why being the butt of a joke and being in on the joke would be mutually exclusive in your mind but ok. You can interpret the jerk off gesture however way you want. Personally, I don’t think it’s necessarily directed at them, but rather the absurdity of the conversation. Essentially saying “this conversation/story is a jerk off” not “you’re all jerk offs.” But again that’s up to you. One physical gesture does not tell you everything you need to know about someone’s mindset and intentions. That’s not how people work and it’s not how the show was written either. Maybe your just shallow enough that you just want the satisfaction of seeing people being openly insulted to their face even when it may not be necessarily happening that way.
@aileen wournos “He doesn’t want them to be in on the joke. They are the joke.” “I said that they aren’t in on the joke because they are the joke.” Are you not aware of what the phrase “in on the joke” means? It only means that your aware of it, not necessarily cooperating with it. So you not only said that they weren’t aware that they were being had twice, you also said at first that Tony himself doesn’t want them to figure out that it’s a joke, which would defeat the purpose of your entire jerk off theory as a whole. you calling my analysis childlike is laughable at this point when your own is inconsistent to the point of being hypocritical. How’s that for apt? Everything else about your analysis is just your opinion. The tone of the scene does not prove anything about whether they were aware the joke or not nor does Tony telling melfi that they were using him and he was messing with them mean anything either. We were always in agreement that they didn’t care about him and he was having fun at their expense, but perhaps you forgot. The fact that they were using him for entertainment and prodding him because of his alleged mob ties does not necessarily mean he wanted to insult them to their faces either. Obviously he wanted to have some fun of his own, but burning his bridges with them would mean not being able to visit that exclusive golf club he wasn’t a member of and defeat the purpose of going out with them as a whole. Why would he go out of his way to hang out with them, if he intended to ruin their relationship by directly calling them jerk offs? Plus one of them is both his neighbor and family doctor, not someone in one’s life one tries to have a problem with. That’s why I think it only makes sense that the joke was an inside one and that it was only intended for his amusement. Their reaction slightly supports this in my opinion because instead of looking hurt or shocked as someone’s who’s been insulted might look, they just seemed baffled and confused to me, in true oblivious fashion. Also for the record, an insult is an insult. You could have easily disagreed with me in more mature and constructive way that didn’t sink to name calling, but you chose not to. So really there’s nothing for me to consider, you were just behaving poorly.
Tony had them goin the whole facking game-a, ...Fugeet-dabout ittt! ....Such a great actor, James Gandolfini you are and always will be missed and loved my friend, those 1hr series I watched until the last season I enjoyed every minute, thank you, Rest in eternal peace my friend, from a true fan, always.
I love the unspoken words in this scene and how Tony's story was an expression of how he was feeling. More or less saying go ahead keep ringing that bell and see what happens
Best part of this entire episode is Tony getting denied admission to the club. For all the wealth and power he has in "his world", he has nothing in the world of "real" business and "real" social circles. Class trumps wealth in a world outside the Bada Bing club.
Not sure I'd call it class. If someone is extremely wealthy they didn't get there by being totally ethical. I don't care what anyone says. It's a very short step from corporate boss to gangster. There are other ways to kill people than with weapons. Killing a persons spirit is arguably worse than killing them physically, not to mention enslavement to debt. Worth asking who the real criminals are. As always, The Soprano's raises more questions than it gives answers. I think that's kind of the point. Brilliant series.
No real thinking providing gangster wants to be around the same scene everyday. Tony could have mingled with bosses in his world of this type of status. But who wants to have to be guard all the time?
I don't what's worse, the fact that these guys were cluelessly mocking Tony, or that these upper-middle class professionals cared so little for the violence and suffering in organised crime that they were cool hanging out with a mob boss.
Mount Plymouth golf course. I used to play there all the time. It was "cabbage patch". More weeds than greens. It was fun to play though. It closed about 15 years ago. The residents who lived around it loved the open space....It got sold to a developer a couple of years ago...nothing but houses now.
I have known a couple mob guys, both Capos. They both looked like typical grampas, incredibly polite, deferential. I would never have even considered mentioning the existence of LCN to them.
Great comment, though I'll add we also laughed at him, not just with him. For all the gritty intensity he bought to the role, Gandolphini was arguably equally as gifted a comedic actor, and he blended it will so expertly with the serious nature of the role. Such a great actor and sadly departed.
In jersey we had a small ice cream spot.every once in awhile a guy in a suite would come around. He would check on the supplies and had the same guys with em all the time. All of em dressed in nice shirts and the like. They collect from the safe. The boss was a nice guy or so we think. Never gave us any issues , these guys would come buy and sometimes bark orders we weren’t even sure who they where we assumed they owned the place. They always talked with the boas alone and just hung out with em for awhile. Like i said our boss was a nice guy but he held himself differently and the guys who would drop by even more so. Confidently and somewhat menacingly. Didnt say much to us employees, but never gave us a hard time. If the kids where around and customers where forming a line, no matter how many people. They bought ice cream for everybody in cash. Always cash. It turns out that they ran the bagel shop on the same strip. All im sayin as that this shit went on for years, we employees talked about it and wondered. None of us dared ask or even imply shit. We weren’t the only ones in town who suspected either. My sister in Brooklyn ran a Mandys out there. She said that on occasion a shit storm of beautiful Russian woman would storm the store and buy a shit ton of clothing damn near running the inventory empty. She said one man who spoke Russian would hand her a card and pay for all of that shit. He tipped generously and didnt except refusal. She said it aint none of my business i aint sayin shit. Her boss asked her what had happened to the inventory. She explained and he checked the income when cooperate office called and asked. She explained to them too. She pretty much told em. All of your best clothes have been purchased by one Russian man. They said i know hes done this before. Same guy same card. We just needed to check with you too. My sister flat out told em you can check all you want. I dont know who this man is, i dont know what he does, and im not tryin to find out. I wasn’t either. When you suspect guys like that are in the midst, you dont ask stupid questions.
@@Effenent its a made-up story the whole thing, and its like he's just obviously making fun of the guy (to himself) - imagine a big crime boss in an iced cream van driving around with the stupid music on, its just a ridiculous thing to imagine he's just making fun of those guys because he thinks theyre lame he's doing the hand sign for jerk off ringing the bell saying they are lame and by the end of the story they understand what he's saying but he was insulting them indirectly for being disrespectful of him asking all the stoopid-a-fucking-qustions! - hope that helps : Wagooairlines was my old youtube account!
@@straightletterz2596 Thanks a bunch for the quick reply! That clears it up for me, it's been bugging the hell outta me since I started to binge the show. I'm realizing that a lot of it went over my head the first time. The show is genius!
@@Effenent haha no worries :) yea sopranos is awesome, great acting and script, can defiantly watch it more than once.. "the wire" is also an absolute classic show from HBO defiantly recommend that if you're looking for something else to watch! they dont make good tv shows like these 2 anymore! have a great life dude!
I met a former capo from the New Orleans mob, his name was David 'blackie" giordano, his father was the boss Anthony Giordano of St Louis ...David had to change his name to David Steece and leave st Louis as a kid because his father didn't want the mob to hurt him.....now a days he sells his documentary and books about his mob life at stores . I met him during a book signing and I asked him that exact same question about if The Godfather was realistic lol...he told me " No it's compete bullshit, I'm full blood Sicilian we do things our own way". Then I asked his wife who was there if she had any idea that her husband was a capo in the Mob and she said she had no idea until he told her". He was an intimidating guy in real life, even at old age.
The Godfather was old school though. Either way, it's a masterpiece. And they did do things their own way in the godfather so idk what that's supposed to mean. Either way the mist realistic movie imo about the Mob was Gatti
Doc Cousamano was clearly embarrased at times by his friends, and tried numerous times to stick up for or clarify T's position. So clearly he as Tony's neighbor had genuine good will and respect toward Tony.
First they ask Tony about if the Godfather was realistic, which tells a story takes place in the late 1940s where Tony was probably a vitamin of an orange, then they mention Carmine Galante hit which was 1979 where Tony was probably a kid, soon they talk about John Gotti who was arrested in the 1990s where Tony was probably just an errand boy for the mob. Totally makes no fucking sense and hillarious :):)
They were just fishing for any info on the mob. Usually squared white collared guys tend to idolize certain illegal activities. Everyone wants to be a gangster until it comes time to do gangster shit.
Tony died of a heart attacks in Italy at least 20+ years ago, he was good on jury, Captain crunch, and Liam nessen on a train movie, very nice folk, rip 51, sorry folks
Tony just realized he was there for entertainment
He says as much later in the episode 😉
That he did. So he decided to play the game, the real game.
@budsmoke bunny J-just... y-you know, he's funny.
freddie hall ...they are idiots and that would be enough to anger anyone !..Just like what was done to my infant daughter and myself ! Terrorizing and torturing for entertainment ! Sick, twisted, psychopathic, clinically /criminally insane !
Saddest part ever. Realized he was nothing more then a sideshow freak to them when he thought it was one place he could just chill out and be himself.
3 mafia fan boys who had zero clue what a dangerous, sociopath they were golfing with.
WASPs are all stupid. They live off generational wealth and never have to do any real thinking.
@@PatrickPierceBateman Oh Patrick.
@DG WASPs didn't have a trust fund but they had slaves and indentured servants to do all their hard work for them. WASPs steal all their wealth from other people.
First they stole from the Irish, then when the Irish had nothing left on their little island to steal, the WASPs went to America to steal from the Native Americans and they brought along their black slaves and indentured servants to do all the hard work for no pay.
WASP elites dominated American society, culture, and politics for most of the history of the United States, maintaining a monopoly through intermarriage, inheritance, and nepotism. Learn your history buddy!
@@PatrickPierceBateman You're really not doing a single thing to dispel your image as just another type of ignorant bigot.
@@PatrickPierceBateman You tell others to learn history, yet you have such a primitive concept of it that it's not even worth engaging you.
HBO execs hanging out with Tony.
+bodeswell35 oh vey !!
No, they have too small noses for that.
step up jew
@@1MpUrO internet tough guy.
Cusamano looks jewish as hell
I love how tony goes from trying to avoid their mob related questions to just completely screwing with them at the end.
Yet they were too dumb and dense to get it!
@@timothyernest6429 They were actors.But you get the plot.
Probably thought to himself "They ain't gonna stop asking so might as well have a little fun"
How does everyone know that he was screwing with them. I didn’t get it. That went right over my head.
I feel like a lot of the jokes in this show either go right over my head or I can’t hear them or decipher the words they are actually saying. It’s one really frustrating part about this show to me. Idk if it’s like 2000’s audio or the italian American lingo/acting but fuck it is so frustrating
Ummm how we was he screwing with him?
If they actually think he is in the mafia, how stupid is it to pester him like this....
Idiots..
They're too arrogant & stupid to know what they're doing.
They're too arrogant & stupid to know what they're doing.
+Joe Scopelite Ignorant would be the proper word of choice
People do the exact same thing with war veterans, asking about how many people they killed and the worst thing they've seen.
It's so common but yeah, to a mob boss it's pretty dumb.
vtrmcs But a war veteran is not dangerous. Irritating a high-ranking mafioso is...
There is a sadness to this scene. Tony thought that these guys were his friends. They only care about him because he is in the mafia and they know that he is connected to people who are in the big leagues of organized crime.
he played them well though lol..
It secures his fate as an "other"
Moltisanti 040 the other golfers were Albanian? They seemed more like classic WASP douchebags 😂😂
Spit-Shine Philly hey sorry u feel dat way but how bad u want me to feel about that? How u think Africans feel when most people consider the continent one big fuckin country?
Or anyone of Arabic or indian decent gettin called a terrorist? Hate to sound like some SJW but the consolidation of CAUCASIANS isn’t nearly as damaging what other ethnicities face.
@Spit-Shine Philly Russians are not wasps neither are Albanians they Slavs
The way he looks around like he's about to reveal some big inside scoop before he trolls them. Priceless.
Seriously, let's say you had a hint someone was involved in the mob...the question you do NOT ask them is how real was The Godfather.
If these guys were from lower classes backgrounds they wouldn't have been arrogant enough to ask such stupid questions.
only if you talk to christopher moltisanti...
and he will tell you some stuff :D
Of course u don't ask if the Godfather was real, DUH....U ask if "Analyze this" is real. Everybody knows that
Especially because we all know Goodfellas was more authentic.
Most mobsters, made men dont want a lot of people knowing who they are and most of them really would take offense to some wise ass talking around it like that. If you KNOW who they are, its because they are grooming you, marking you, or you are a cop.
If its someone who isnt in the mob but has given you reason to think they are, you shouldnt be standing so close to posers, gun fire isnt always so carefully aimed and a bad reputation can be contagious.
If Tony made that up on the spot, he was a troll genius
Well why would he have planned it
Costa Zambaras what the fuck this show is scripted ??
@Costa Zambaras The Point is that stories like that are part of the in universe characterization. I know People who can make stuff like that up on the spot. Hell, I can do it on a good day. I was appreciating that Tony was written to be a "troll Genius". Or do you bash People for calling fictional characters badasses because "They ain't!!! They don't exist and are just written that way!!"
Costa... can I call you Cooze? Shut the fuck up, Cooze.
There probably was an older wise guy, who wasn't well known to civilians, who outbid Tony for the last Bungaloo Truck. Tony probably just told these guys it was Gotti just to mess with them.
It this scene we are presented with a matured Tony, who has finally accepted the fact that he does not have the makings of a varsity athlete and decided to pursue a career in golf.
vlid0 hahahaha
The point of the whole show: coming to terms with the fact that he'll never be a varsity athlete.
Don't remember this episode. What season?
Leevonne Henley
One of them.
I'll tell you one thing, a varsity athlete woulda picked a better seat in that diner.
These guys are a meta reference to the viewer, who's own fascination with the sociopaths in the mafia motivates them to watch the Sopranos
nailed it
Funny thing I had no fascination with the mafia when watching this.
Still don't actually.
Ooow, take it easy! Wassa matter with you?
@@blorkpovud1576 okay
Mayans M.C had that idea when the two Swole Boys tried messing with Angel and EZ, Angel was having none of that bs and puts em in their place
Great writing - as always. Tony makes it demonstrably clear at the end of the clip that he thinks they're a bunch of jerk-offs.
Yes, and in my comment I am going to make it demonstrably clear that I think YOU are a jerk-off.
Boo hoo, let me play a sad song on the world's smallest violin.
@@MrRhurbarb why tho
@Dan Look at the non-verbals right at the end of the clip.
Well they are
“You know he rang that bell, the whole way home.”
That still makes me laugh.
what means this
@@saidmertknkloglu6438wHaT MeAnS tHiS
That scared the shit out of them.
@@saidmertknkloglu6438he was calling them jerkoffs (hand motion)
Tony Legit felt normal for a while then they dropped the ball on asking all those questions Tony’s true only friend was Artie
And Sil
Artie, Sil and maybe Johnny Sack.
@@ARGZY Johnny Sack? lmfao
Artie, Sil and agent Harris.
@@ARGZY you didn’t watch the show if you seriously think Johnny sack was his friend
Tony looks hurt because he realized that he could never get anyone to respect him who didn’t also fear him. He can never escape the reputation of being a mafia don, and different people will interpret that differently. People can say, “he should put them in their place,” but he doesn’t want that. He just wanted some respect and he knows that the only thing intimidating them would do is alienate himself further. They’re just from a different world.
He was hurt he later reveals to Dr. Melfi how he felt like a kid they used to expose cause of his speech and how now he feels like thay kid felt
Tony told melfi that he felt like a zoo animal around those guys.
I told Melfi you made me feel like a zoo aminal. Small world.
Melfi told me she felt like a zoo animal when I hog tired her like a pig.
@@nickb2208 i wouldnt mind hog tying Lorraine Bracco myself
As a chef it can feel the same way with some people. Obviously not as dark. But people will hound you "What's it like?" "Do you know how to cook steak?" Or my favorite "What's your signature dish?" Chefs haven't had "signature dishes" since like the 70s. I feel bad for military guys that gotta go through the same stuff.
@@JG-id5vi my best friend served 23 years in Marine Recon. He did a lot of covert stuff all over the world. Tony toward the end here so reminds me of how my friend would deal with questions from military fan boys. 😂
Woh, this guys are just like youtube commenters !
Rofl exactly
lel
Fuck you
Like you, but not rich
at least they are sucessful, youtube boys here are just a bunch of wannabe italian mobster, some wannabe comedian *random shit + SHINEBOX/varsity athlete shit and the wost ones, the motherfucker who "ohhg this scene that it really tries to do is/ohh this scene what the author tried to say was" cocksuckers pieces of shit i fucking hate you all hahahah
What I love about this scene is how the guys were expecting that story to be something badass or whatever, something more akin to the image of mafiosos. And when Tony just tells them a rather innocent and playful story that just involved John Gotti, they're all so confused because they can't correlate any sort of humanity towards Tony or the mob life in general - just stories of killing and mayhem. I don't know if the story was true or not, but I don't think that was the point.
It's the same as when Dr. Melfi hears a scream coming from the Soprano household in the same episode. She, along with us, would've assumed it to be some poor guy getting tortured or something just like in the movies, Dr. Cusamono even talks about the brutal torture scene from the movie Casino. When the reality is it was Tony just aggressively working out like a normal person.
The story wasn’t true!!!!
What do you think the motion of his hands ringing the bell was supposed to mean?!! Lol!
@@its_rick_james_bich2575 what it supposed to mean ?
@@ehabel-nagar2169 If your from the US..it would mean “jerk off”…if you were from UK it would mean “wanker”…I’m sure there is a translation for every culture/language!
@@its_rick_james_bich2575 Tony _did_ hijack an ice cream truck back when he was a teenager.
You didn’t get it lol
"You know he rang that bell the whole way home" That's just perfect writing
Tony sad on one ass cheek the whole way ova!
"Whoa...FUCK!" He sounds like a kid saying the word for the first time in front of his friends trying to sound cool hahah.
+Vladimir Horowitz Kurwaaaaa
Lmao
It was a genuine reaction
It’s just like when they were barbequing sausages and Tony asked the other one about the stock market. He replied with “ it’s always fucking changing Tony.”
They went from pretending like they were content with their pretentiousness, on their high horse with a baseball bat up their ass; and thinking they were above Tony.
They pretended like they weren’t interested in him as an alleged Mob figure who they knew of and not interested in impressing him.
They were dying to know all the details of the mob life like fans who watch A&E.
As for the swearing, I’ve been swearing since I was 7-8 years old. It rolls off the tongue naturally unlike them.
This scene shows that Artie is Tony's only true friend. Artie doesn't care about Tony's mafia background, they're friends just because they are.
Could Davie Scatino not be another one?
@@michaelcain721 No because Dave's whole story arc is based around Tony's gambling card game hustle
@@michaelcain721 Just compare at how Tony acted when Davey owed him 40k vs when Artie owed him 40k.
Tony took that pause to look around to create the fake tension of that story they wanted a story and he gave them one and while doing it he was able to intimidate every one of them simultaneously pure genius
Golfing buddies: "Tell us Tony, how real was the Godfather?"
Tony, almost crying: "It was real to me, damn it!"
you're breaking my heart... it's a movie
Doesn't tony prefer Goodfellows?
Good one lol!
“YA MEAN IT WASN’T REAL?!”
The quality of acting in The Sopranos never ceases to amaze me. You later see Tony discussing this experience with Melfi, and for all his gangster toughness and bravado, you could see his hurt at being used as an object of ridicule by Cusamano, someone he had considered to be something of a friend.
Norman Cook yeah now he knows how the people feel he terrorizes
@@NN-lh6id Yes, and a unique scene - I never thought I'd find myself rooting for a mobster over a doctor
I like how at first Tony is pissed by all the questions, then after a while I think he says to himself, "I'm just gonna fuck with them."
John Gotti probably would have loved this scene and laughed his ass off.
John Gotti never subscribed to HBO.
He read the script n was laughing
He did
Yeah laughing from hell lmfao
Omerbrooklyn87 Gotti was still alive at the time, this premiered in 1999, Gotti passed away in 2002
"you know, he rang that bell the whole way home"
Lost it hahahahaha
Aside from the "ringing the bell" part, I love how Tony makes it sound like they are going to hear a real juicy story, but instead leaves them hanging.
This is my favorite scene. It can teach you precisely how to not care for others. There is nothing wrong with asking people questions and showing interest in their experiences. In fact it is the BEST way of bonding with others and gaining trust and showing that you care. However, the lack of depth and the timing of the questions is what communicates that his experiences are not something they respect as a human experience.
My brother went to prison for 2 years. You have no idea how much of the "did you drop the soap?" questions he got when he got out. If any of his friends would make fun of him that way it would cut deep. We actually have great conversations about his time in prison and how prison life mirrors the outside world. I've brought up gay relationships in prison, asking how often it really happens and stuff, but it was certainly not the first thing I greeted him with.
It's hard for people to not take this kind of oversight personally, but I think a lot of the time people just don't realize what they are doing. They haven't ever even vaguely tried to put themselves into the other person's shoes.
In this scene that's illustrated perfectly by the fact that the questions were way too general to be able to answer in a meaningful way, and when he tries to narrow it down he realizes the guy didn't bother to think about things 1 step into the question.
underrated comment
Well put
Most are either selfish, ignorant, or mildly sociopathic themselves.
"I see you watch A&E" he says as I watch this episode on A&E
I expect this ride in The Many Saints of Newark
Oh dear god this made me laugh out loud
tony's got that boss walk.
all i know is he never had the makings of a varsity athlete.
@@deathrager2404 small hands that was his problem
I love how after the guy asks how real the Godfather was, with a long pause Cusimano turns around to make sure Tony isn't choking the guy to death..
"Cusumano is what my old man used to call a Wonder Bread Wop, he eats his Sunday gravy out of a jar."
What's a WAP? You mean WOP?
yes .
Wop means without papers term used for immigrants coming over on the boat back in the day
Cusumano, unlike Tony, was hard working and disciplined. He entered a profession that helps others. In his own way he trys to make the world a better place. Tony had as much opportunity as Cusumano. He could have been a contributing member of society. Instead he chose to be a parasite. He and his associates definitely do not make the world a better place. Calling an Italian American "wonder bread" or whatever is a sign of envy.
Sauce, not gravy. Only stupid tards call it gravy.
Trolling at its best.....
bahahaga
Roguemember whatsa troll?
I still love when he gave Cooz the box to watch LOFL.
i don't think i'll ever be done with this show lmao. so many scenes like this, the perfect juxtaposition of funny and sinister
That's *exactly* what I was thinking. This show is a crime thriller with an unintentional dark humour.
That 'whoa, FUCK!' gets me every time lol.
Me, too.
Read your comment right when that came up lol.
I think he got moist.
This has to be my favorite scene in the Sopranos because Tony doesn’t show anger or his wealth but instead gives them an unreal expectation that they didn’t expect coming.
they where like a second away from asking him if he cooka the pizza
I would love to see Tony bump into them when he visited the course with Furio to deliver a message to doctor Kennedy... :)
Artur Czerwiński Stupida facking game
Tony could just kill his children as Terrorists do
This scene demonstrates that despite Tony’s ruthless and undeniably evil behavior, he’s hardly a pure sociopath. That type of individual would consider every relationship to be purely transactional and wouldn’t be capable of craving authentic human connection.
"The criminal's sentimentality reveals itself in compassion for babies and pets."
Tony Soprano - I remember when I was a kid, there was this guy in my neighborhood. We used to call him Jimmy Smash. Now he wasn’t retarded, but we thought he was because he had one of these, uh, whatchamacallits. “Hey, how the fuck are ya?” What do you call that?
Dr. Melfi - Cleft palate.
Tony Soprano - Yeah. Well, we was kids, right? So what the hell do we know? Every time he opened his mouth, we’d piss ourselves laughin’. But Jimmy didn’t mind, because he got to hang out with us. Popular crew. Although we only called him when we were bored. Called him, we’d say, “Hey, Jimmy. Sing ’Mack the Knife’.” And because he wanted to hang out with us, he’d belt it right out. We’d fuckin’ roll on the floor laughing. And then, you know, when the laughs got old, we stopped callin’ him. Wasn’t till years later that I found out the poor prick was goin’ home every night and cryin’ himself to sleep. When i found out, you know, I felt bad. But I never really understood what he felt. To be used, you know, for somebody else’s amusement like a fuckin’ dancin’ bear till I played golf with those guys.
1:05 Everything you need to know about Tony Soprano in one look.
"Oh, they're wavin' at us."
You can hear how much Tony just wants to enjoy the game with his "normal" friends in that line.
Tony got his own back by telling them the Gotti story. And later by giving the smug neighbor a "package" to hold. He took the piss out of them all.
Tony soprano was the greatest character ever
Either Tony or Marlo Stanfield
zelle908 Marlo Stanfield? He wasn’t in the same league as Tony. Hell he wasn’t the best actor on The Wire.
You're Right you said character not actor lol
@@zelle908 HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
Archie Bunker changed Television
They are not trying to be nice. They are treating him like some separate oddity to be watched and poked at for their entertainment. I really hope you are just trolling.
Talkindurinthemovie they should of tickled him with feather dusters
@@andrewbecker9062 The comment is from 7 years ago, they were probably replying to someone else's comment. Now on modern TH-cam, it appears as its own independent comment.
I once had a case involving a fire in a laundromat that the insurance company thought was arson. I was at the deposition of the owner. An Italian fellow, dressed incredibly well, said a lot but said nothing. Every word was considered before he said it. Unbelievable discipline. You just knew the guy was connected. Scared the crap out of me just being in the room with him. I barely dared to breathe too loud. These guys are no laughing matter.
Typical, a well dressed italian and you immediately think he was mobbed up! All these negative italian-american stereotypes
Doesn't take much to scare you does it?
He was trolling them with that John Gotti story
“WOAH FUCK!!!”
Oskar Bravo hahaha
Oskar Bravo straight up white boy lol
These dudes are like Film Twitter come to life. lol
..."you know he rang that bell; the whole way home"...
Hahaha! Love this story, cracks me up to imagine John Gotti and Tony Soprano riding in an icecream truck with the chimes going.
I imagine some part of Tony possibly hoped they would realize it was just a joke and laugh, but they didn’t, leaving him there realizing he was surrounded by a bunch of completely oblivious morons.
I think they were afraid because he was calling them jerk offs in a "figure of speech" way.
@aileen wournos what a pretentious child pretending he’s a lot more mature than he actually is by insulting people for no reason. That it’s a joke and he’s trolling them with the story is what I already said if you were actually reading. What I was referring to as my reasoning is the drawn out pause at the end when he makes that bell ringing hand gesture and waits for their reaction, it seems like he could be giving them the opportunity to realize that it was way too ridiculous to be true. You see this in other pieces of cinema too, especially thrillers, where the characters feign seriousness to create an awkward pause, only for it to be revealed it was all bs. You saying he’s past caring and doesn’t want them to be in on it is just your opinion since your not inside Tony’s head. And to be clear I’m sure he doesn’t care too much either way. All I was saying was some small part of him may have been curious how far he could push the stereotypical view they had of him before they started to disbelieve. It seems he never found that limit.
@aileen wournos okay this is just a waste of my time. First you were saying they aren’t in on it and he doesn’t want them to be, now you’re saying they do get it and they’re just too scared to say anything. How about you figure out which story to go with before you start telling me I’m the one who doesn’t get it?
@aileen wournos oh so your made up your mind that’s nice.
It is possible to figure out somethings a joke even when it’s at your own expense. I don’t know why being the butt of a joke and being in on the joke would be mutually exclusive in your mind but ok.
You can interpret the jerk off gesture however way you want. Personally, I don’t think it’s necessarily directed at them, but rather the absurdity of the conversation. Essentially saying “this conversation/story is a jerk off” not “you’re all jerk offs.” But again that’s up to you.
One physical gesture does not tell you everything you need to know about someone’s mindset and intentions. That’s not how people work and it’s not how the show was written either. Maybe your just shallow enough that you just want the satisfaction of seeing people being openly insulted to their face even when it may not be necessarily happening that way.
@aileen wournos “He doesn’t want them to be in on the joke. They are the joke.”
“I said that they aren’t in on the joke because they are the joke.”
Are you not aware of what the phrase “in on the joke” means? It only means that your aware of it, not necessarily cooperating with it.
So you not only said that they weren’t aware that they were being had twice, you also said at first that Tony himself doesn’t want them to figure out that it’s a joke, which would defeat the purpose of your entire jerk off theory as a whole. you calling my analysis childlike is laughable at this point when your own is inconsistent to the point of being hypocritical. How’s that for apt?
Everything else about your analysis is just your opinion. The tone of the scene does not prove anything about whether they were aware the joke or not nor does Tony telling melfi that they were using him and he was messing with them mean anything either. We were always in agreement that they didn’t care about him and he was having fun at their expense, but perhaps you forgot.
The fact that they were using him for entertainment and prodding him because of his alleged mob ties does not necessarily mean he wanted to insult them to their faces either. Obviously he wanted to have some fun of his own, but burning his bridges with them would mean not being able to visit that exclusive golf club he wasn’t a member of and defeat the purpose of going out with them as a whole. Why would he go out of his way to hang out with them, if he intended to ruin their relationship by directly calling them jerk offs? Plus one of them is both his neighbor and family doctor, not someone in one’s life one tries to have a problem with.
That’s why I think it only makes sense that the joke was an inside one and that it was only intended for his amusement. Their reaction slightly supports this in my opinion because instead of looking hurt or shocked as someone’s who’s been insulted might look, they just seemed baffled and confused to me, in true oblivious fashion.
Also for the record, an insult is an insult. You could have easily disagreed with me in more mature and constructive way that didn’t sink to name calling, but you chose not to. So really there’s nothing for me to consider, you were just behaving poorly.
I can’t imagine 3 genuinely successful, mature, relatively smart dudes would behave this way with an actual mafia member on Tony’s level.
everyone is a kid at heart
Clearly you’ve never met white people.
@@righteousduke2704 tony is also white so yeah
@@rankoss3437 Nah us Italians are not as "white" as these WASPS.
@@righteousduke2704 Go fetch me something to eat redskin
this is commentary on the postmodern condition and on the viewer themselves. genius!
They’ve got balls to question him like that. I wouldn’t question a psychopath about anything.
Actually they don't these guys are entitled pricks. It's more about personal arrogance then balls if they on there turf they would be scared of Tony
I wouldn't be playing golf or having anything to do with one.
you guys are pussies that sounds like fun
Such an awesome scene. RIP James Gandolfini , sorely missed.
This was one of my favorite scenes of Tones he was so subtle i had to explain it twice to my friends
I love how Tony flips it on em.
I actually felt sorry for Tony in this scene there was no need in how they were treating him like he was the guinea pig
It's funny, cause everyone in the mob acts like the mob doesn't exist, but everyone in the world knows the mob exist.
Oh man. I need to binge on this again. Just so great
James, rest in peace
Damn they asking the most police questions ever lmaoo
That's a whole bunch of questions I'd never ask a friend who was connected...
Tony had them goin the whole facking game-a, ...Fugeet-dabout ittt! ....Such a great actor, James Gandolfini you are and always will be missed and loved my friend, those 1hr series I watched until the last season I enjoyed every minute, thank you, Rest in eternal peace my friend, from a true fan, always.
Love that ringing the bell gesture, basically slyly calling them jerkoffs *just kept ringing that bell*
James Gandolphini....just one of the best....rest easy.
The first time I watched this episode I was blown away by the genius of that joke, the dancing bear bites hard.
I love the unspoken words in this scene and how Tony's story was an expression of how he was feeling. More or less saying go ahead keep ringing that bell and see what happens
Best part of this entire episode is Tony getting denied admission to the club. For all the wealth and power he has in "his world", he has nothing in the world of "real" business and "real" social circles. Class trumps wealth in a world outside the Bada Bing club.
Replace class with "bitchassness"
Not sure I'd call it class. If someone is extremely wealthy they didn't get there by being totally ethical. I don't care what anyone says. It's a very short step from corporate boss to gangster. There are other ways to kill people than with weapons. Killing a persons spirit is arguably worse than killing them physically, not to mention enslavement to debt.
Worth asking who the real criminals are. As always, The Soprano's raises more questions than it gives answers. I think that's kind of the point.
Brilliant series.
I meant "social class" vtrmcs. All the wealth and power Tony has does not buy him into their "social class".
Ah indeed. Reminds me "An Inspector Calls" by JB Priestly. A masterwork of literature about that very subject.
No real thinking providing gangster wants to be around the same scene everyday. Tony could have mingled with bosses in his world of this type of status. But who wants to have to be guard all the time?
I don't what's worse, the fact that these guys were cluelessly mocking Tony, or that these upper-middle class professionals cared so little for the violence and suffering in organised crime that they were cool hanging out with a mob boss.
you got it
I love how he just makes fun of them with a fake story
Mount Plymouth golf course. I used to play there all the time. It was "cabbage patch". More weeds than greens. It was fun to play though. It closed about 15 years ago. The residents who lived around it loved the open space....It got sold to a developer a couple of years ago...nothing but houses now.
I have known a couple mob guys, both Capos. They both looked like typical grampas, incredibly polite, deferential. I would never have even considered mentioning the existence of LCN to them.
one of the greatest moments of the entire show
Great comment, though I'll add we also laughed at him, not just with him.
For all the gritty intensity he bought to the role, Gandolphini was arguably equally as gifted a comedic actor, and he blended it will so expertly with the serious nature of the role.
Such a great actor and sadly departed.
Thats it time to watch The Sopranos again
In jersey we had a small ice cream spot.every once in awhile a guy in a suite would come around. He would check on the supplies and had the same guys with em all the time. All of em dressed in nice shirts and the like. They collect from the safe. The boss was a nice guy or so we think. Never gave us any issues , these guys would come buy and sometimes bark orders we weren’t even sure who they where we assumed they owned the place. They always talked with the boas alone and just hung out with em for awhile. Like i said our boss was a nice guy but he held himself differently and the guys who would drop by even more so. Confidently and somewhat menacingly. Didnt say much to us employees, but never gave us a hard time. If the kids where around and customers where forming a line, no matter how many people. They bought ice cream for everybody in cash. Always cash. It turns out that they ran the bagel shop on the same strip. All im sayin as that this shit went on for years, we employees talked about it and wondered. None of us dared ask or even imply shit. We weren’t the only ones in town who suspected either. My sister in Brooklyn ran a Mandys out there. She said that on occasion a shit storm of beautiful Russian woman would storm the store and buy a shit ton of clothing damn near running the inventory empty. She said one man who spoke Russian would hand her a card and pay for all of that shit. He tipped generously and didnt except refusal. She said it aint none of my business i aint sayin shit. Her boss asked her what had happened to the inventory. She explained and he checked the income when cooperate office called and asked. She explained to them too. She pretty much told em. All of your best clothes have been purchased by one Russian man. They said i know hes done this before. Same guy same card. We just needed to check with you too. My sister flat out told em you can check all you want. I dont know who this man is, i dont know what he does, and im not tryin to find out. I wasn’t either. When you suspect guys like that are in the midst, you dont ask stupid questions.
Sorry to bother you I just like to have my girls dressed nice
I wish Johny Sack was in this scene ;DD
you know he rang that bell.. all the way home LOL
I'm a little slow sometimes, can anyone explain this line to me? It seems like he's insinuating danger somehow but I can't really place it.
@@Effenent its a made-up story the whole thing, and its like he's just obviously making fun of the guy (to himself) - imagine a big crime boss in an iced cream van driving around with the stupid music on, its just a ridiculous thing to imagine he's just making fun of those guys because he thinks theyre lame he's doing the hand sign for jerk off ringing the bell saying they are lame and by the end of the story they understand what he's saying but he was insulting them indirectly for being disrespectful of him asking all the stoopid-a-fucking-qustions! - hope that helps : Wagooairlines was my old youtube account!
@@straightletterz2596 Thanks a bunch for the quick reply! That clears it up for me, it's been bugging the hell outta me since I started to binge the show. I'm realizing that a lot of it went over my head the first time. The show is genius!
@@Effenent haha no worries :) yea sopranos is awesome, great acting and script, can defiantly watch it more than once.. "the wire" is also an absolute classic show from HBO defiantly recommend that if you're looking for something else to watch! they dont make good tv shows like these 2 anymore! have a great life dude!
@@straightletterz2596 Yeah I've heard "The Wire" is fantastic too. I'm enjoying having access to good TV for once, I'll check it out! Thanks again :)
Brings me right back to 99 early 2000s
I met a former capo from the New Orleans mob, his name was David 'blackie" giordano, his father was the boss Anthony Giordano of St Louis ...David had to change his name to David Steece and leave st Louis as a kid because his father didn't want the mob to hurt him.....now a days he sells his documentary and books about his mob life at stores . I met him during a book signing and I asked him that exact same question about if The Godfather was realistic lol...he told me " No it's compete bullshit, I'm full blood Sicilian we do things our own way". Then I asked his wife who was there if she had any idea that her husband was a capo in the Mob and she said she had no idea until he told her". He was an intimidating guy in real life, even at old age.
12345balla12345 did you both ring the bell all the way home
You telling us you are a jerk off like the guys in the clip. Maybe not something you want to brag about. Go get your shine box.
The Godfather was old school though. Either way, it's a masterpiece. And they did do things their own way in the godfather so idk what that's supposed to mean. Either way the mist realistic movie imo about the Mob was Gatti
love that "shut the fuck up" look Cusamano gives to the other golfer at the start. Quality.
Doc Cousamano was clearly embarrased at times by his friends, and tried numerous times to stick up for or clarify T's position.
So clearly he as Tony's neighbor had genuine good will and respect toward Tony.
One of the best scenes in the show.
i miss the sopranos and tony .He died to young in real life great actor.If it ever comes back i wonder who would reprise the role?
The best series ever in the history of television! The Sopranos💯💯💯💯💯
Breaking Bad/Better Call Saul
Now HBO will do one about ISIS, same material different actors
@@davedrust6378 They're not even close
First they ask Tony about if the Godfather was realistic, which tells a story takes place in the late 1940s where Tony was probably a vitamin of an orange, then they mention Carmine Galante hit which was 1979 where Tony was probably a kid, soon they talk about John Gotti who was arrested in the 1990s where Tony was probably just an errand boy for the mob. Totally makes no fucking sense and hillarious :):)
They were just fishing for any info on the mob. Usually squared white collared guys tend to idolize certain illegal activities. Everyone wants to be a gangster until it comes time to do gangster shit.
Yeah totally, I see that. Just the irony of the dates got me so bad :)
"vitamin of an orange"
ingilizce pek uymuyor birader :D
That bell could have been a GREAT character. I wish they had done more with it.
Excellent character actors.
"What's the first thing you think of when you hear the phrase 'Mulberry Street'?"
Dr. Seuss. But that's me.
This show emphasizes real ny NJ Italians and wonder bread pops to a tee
Cosell: "These small minds are from Darien."
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Epic one of the best shows i seen
Got to make a show like this again
Nerds: “How real was The Godfather?”
Tony: “How the fuck would I know?! Do I look like my Uncle Junior?!”
To this day, they tell their grandchildren about the time Gotti outbid T on an ice cream truck. Rang the bell the whole way home
they forgot about it after lunch
0:10 Tony's reaction remind me of Ralph Kramden when the guy mentioned making him a member lol
Tony died of a heart attacks in Italy at least 20+ years ago, he was good on jury, Captain crunch, and Liam nessen on a train movie, very nice folk, rip 51, sorry folks
? 20 years ago? He died in 2013. 51 one years old at the time.