February 21 - The Execution of St Robert Southwell

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  • 🌹 Unveiling the Martyr: The Untold Story of St. Robert Southwell | Tudor Chronicles 🕊️
    Join me on a poignant journey through Tudor history as I delve into the captivating life of St. Robert Southwell, the Jesuit priest, poet, and writer who left an indelible mark on the era of Queen Elizabeth I. 📜🕰️
    On this day in 1595, Southwell faced a fate that echoed the complexities of faith, loyalty, and political turmoil. 🌐👑 Discover the extraordinary tale of his early life, from being sent to the renowned Catholic seminary at Douai to becoming a Jesuit in Rome at just sixteen.
    Betrayed and tortured by Queen Elizabeth I's infamous priest-hunter, Richard Topcliffe, Southwell's resilience during his three years of imprisonment in the Tower of London speaks volumes. 🏰🗝️ Experience the harrowing journey as he faced the cruel realities of his confinement, from a disgustingly dirty cell to the deepest corners of Newgate's Limbo.
    Witness the stirring scene on 21st February 1595, as Southwell, drawn on a hurdle through London's streets to Tyburn, delivered a powerful speech invoking Romans 14. 🗣️🙏 His poignant words and unwavering faith left a lasting impact, even on the Protestants present at the execution.
    Explore the profound influence of Southwell's poetry on literary giants like Thomas Nashe, Ben Jonson, and even William Shakespeare, who paid homage to him in Macbeth. 📖🎭 Uncover the intricate web of Catholic loyalty and political upheaval that led to the Act against Jesuits in 1584 and the subsequent execution of nearly 200 Catholics during Elizabeth I's reign.
    As I unravel this chapter in Tudor history, ponder the profound question: How did a man of faith like Southwell end up facing the executioner's block? 🤔👁️ Subscribe now for an intimate exploration of St. Robert Southwell's untold legacy and the complexities of religious persecution in Elizabethan England. 📺🔍 #StRobertSouthwell #TudorMartyr #historicaljourney
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  • @CherylGormanAuthor
    @CherylGormanAuthor 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    What a story! So sad and horrifying at the same time. Elizabeth I has always been my favorite Tudor and I must admit I have always put her on a kind of pedestal. This casts a shadow on her reign.

  • @EnglishVirgo
    @EnglishVirgo 5 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I don't know if you time your videos to coincide with the bells ringing, but it always makes me shiver a little bit, like heaven is ringing out for you sharing these stories. I know, silly, but it makes me smile :) xx

  • @niccoarcadia4179
    @niccoarcadia4179 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    First the looting of the churches by the Queen's father Henry VIII, then the persecution of the priest, followed by open hostile acts of violence to common practitioners of Catholicism. My family relocated to Munster in 1599 and became part of the Anglo-Irish community living in exile.

  • @jeanroughley1126
    @jeanroughley1126 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Thank you so much for this video and for the book recommendation. I really look forward to this read. I don't know whether my ancestors during Elizabeth's time were Protestant or Catholic but I'm here today so the pertinent ones survived long enough to send generations into the future. My family today is made up of both. My heart breaks for this Jesuit who died for his faith and for all of the Protestants and Catholics who valiantly did the same. I believe that Elizabeth would have preferred to let her subjects relate to their Maker as they wished just as she said. Traitors had to die however and so they did. The Pope did what he thought he must. So Protestants were cut off from a Church they didn't belong to and Catholics were put in a torturous position.

  • @lhzook
    @lhzook 5 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    First... I have never understood religious persecution. Look into your heart and believe in where it leads you. Keep it to yourself and don’t expect anyone else to follow.

    • @EnglishVirgo
      @EnglishVirgo 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I don't understand it either and I feel the same as you do, believe what you want to believe, but keep it in your own heart and life and leave others to theirs. Unfortunately, there are plenty of 'religious' folks that feel evangelical about their faith and try to convert others to their beliefs. Luckily many just let it go when they can't. Unfortunately, there is still death and suffering in the name of deities and beliefs, though not in the same way. I wish the world could just live and let live.

    • @leanie9660
      @leanie9660 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It was all about the greed of organized religion. The pope wanted all of his disciples.....obviously, all of the money. He did not want to share, so he set his religious nutbags against anyone who dared to set out on their own. Simple greed.

    • @anneboleynfiles
      @anneboleynfiles  5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I agree with you but in those days religion drove everything. Mary I burned heretics because she saw them as a danger to her people, to their souls, and in Elizabeth's reign, Catholics were seen as potential traitors because the head of their church had released them from their duty to their queen. Religion wasn't something that was personal to you in those days, unfortunately.

    • @ElizabethF2222
      @ElizabethF2222 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      ​@@EnglishVirgo Don't get it either. As a Catholic, I've had some preachers of different faiths come up and proselytize to me their beliefs and why i should not be Catholic At least this day and age, we are not burned or beheaded for following a certain faith!

    • @ElizabethF2222
      @ElizabethF2222 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@anneboleynfiles Thanks for your comment! It is just very hard for me (and obviously others as well) to imagine what it was like back then when, like you wrote, religion drove everything.

  • @Slinkynuts
    @Slinkynuts 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Hi Claire, I found this video very interesting-what a brave man! Was glad to learn about him and of the recommended book. God's Traitors I will definitely put this book on my reading list.I also love how you present your topic in an unbiased manner, even if it is Queen Elizabeth I. Catholics of that era really were in a dilemma over who to serve- Pope or Queen. Thanks again for this interesting presentation.

  • @christinakav5029
    @christinakav5029 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Poor Robert! Shocking death.

  • @Ladybug-uf7uh
    @Ladybug-uf7uh 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    What horrendous brutality. We, today, aren't any better, but this is gut wrenching. Like lhzook below, I don't understand religious persecution. Thank You for another class in history, Claire.

  • @CronesBones
    @CronesBones 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    4:00 mark ....”I don’t think he had rats dropping off him” - 🤣😂 Glad you clarified that vision for me.

  • @beverlyfletcher4458
    @beverlyfletcher4458 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for such a clear exposition of Elizabeth's position as regards Catholic priests and subjects; hopefully followers of your interesting videos will understand the context now.

  • @RiDER-RHYTHM
    @RiDER-RHYTHM 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    well done Tara beautiful work!

  • @jillniemczynski5517
    @jillniemczynski5517 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The book you recommended looks very interesting. That's another addition to my list!

  • @aimee2234
    @aimee2234 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you, for yet another informative be it so gruesome video! Really loving this channel, Claire!

  • @jaimeunwin8278
    @jaimeunwin8278 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It’s really interesting to watch this Robert southwell was my ancestor and my grandad southwell always told us the story about him but didn’t go into as much detail as this

  • @cristinajerry4141
    @cristinajerry4141 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It was amazing that William Byrd well known English composer (1539-1623), who remained a catholic, managed to survive without coming to too much harm, although he was often fined for recusancy. He was a friend of fellow catholic, Lord Petre, and was known to attend and compose latin mass for the Petre household.

  • @joanrankin2827
    @joanrankin2827 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Thanks for the book review! I will have to get "God's Traitors". Please share your top ten books! I would love to know!🤓

  • @almontepaolilli4909
    @almontepaolilli4909 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Sorry, was not clear on the religious threat. I accidentally transmitted before I finished my thoughts but in retrospect, I just think that all Christian Churches should come to a workable relationship in the spirit of a loving Christ. I hope that makes some sense. Thanks for responding to the previous entry.

    • @anneboleynfiles
      @anneboleynfiles  5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I just wasn't sure about the Russia mention as the main religion there is Orthodox Christianity, so it's Christian.

  • @samwright8599
    @samwright8599 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm going to have to go through every video again and write down your recommendations.

  • @RoyalSnowbird
    @RoyalSnowbird 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you - very interesting presentation - most informative! I wish there were better sources of the Southwell family ancestors online (I have a Southwell lady among my ancestors who may well be related to this Saint). Too bad the good online 'sources' die out and go no further that the late 1500s!

  • @sarahperkins2340
    @sarahperkins2340 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love learning something every day something about the Tudors love the period and love this channel

  • @Kaytecando
    @Kaytecando 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for the book recommendation!

  • @joycegentile8552
    @joycegentile8552 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I am Catholic , and wish this whole episode in history had never happened it only served to separate the Body of Christ on earth more and break the heart of Christ more!

  • @ginkat1318
    @ginkat1318 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I do love the book recommendations

  • @TheAuntieBa
    @TheAuntieBa 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What a particularly interesting video! It’s one thing to know the political and religious climate of those times, but this information really nails down the specifics. Glad I wasn’tthere then...never having beenlikely to hold my tongue 😏.

  • @nomine4027
    @nomine4027 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love the often used British phrase "rip roaring." Not that it's unused here in the States, but it seems to be very much entwined in the Queen's English because I hear it all the time from my British compatriots.

  • @annm.7176
    @annm.7176 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you I'm a history buff and a genealogy buff. Enjoy your videos.

  • @buddasquirrel
    @buddasquirrel 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video! So much great information I usually watch them several times in a row. I'm curious, was 'Limbo' an oubliette?

    • @anneboleynfiles
      @anneboleynfiles  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      In one source it is described as a hole and in another as just a deep prison cell, so I don't think it was an oubliette.

    • @buddasquirrel
      @buddasquirrel 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@anneboleynfiles Thank you!

  • @LaPetiteBoulin
    @LaPetiteBoulin 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It's my birthday & what better way to start it than by hearing '♡ On This Day in Tudor History!♡'
    I have a question: when did the myth start about Anne's father & uncle forced her onto Henry VIII?

    • @anneboleynfiles
      @anneboleynfiles  5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Happy birthday! Enjoy your day!
      I'm not quite sure when that myth started, probably Victorian times, though, as they wanted to see Anne (and also Catherine Howard) as tragic heroines and innocent victims.

    • @jillniemczynski5517
      @jillniemczynski5517 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Steel Magnolia Happy Birthday! Many more! 🎉🎂💥🎈😃🎁💙

    • @LaPetiteBoulin
      @LaPetiteBoulin 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Elizabeth Frantes I dont know if that is true of a society as a whole? Wouldn't it be more natural for a father to love his daughter and care about her happiness? So, it seems hard to believe you could get a whole society of men not to care about their daughters.
      Who are the "elite?"

    • @aryiastark4698
      @aryiastark4698 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Happy Birthday

  • @maryannlockwood3961
    @maryannlockwood3961 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    🇺🇸If the Pope had stayed out of it so many people could’ve had more peaceful lives. What a shame. It does seem the people who are safe & far away cause the most trouble for the everyday person. 🇬🇧

  • @rivinius1
    @rivinius1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Pray for us

  • @ElizabethF2222
    @ElizabethF2222 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    And all those innocent people who "confessed" under torture. How did they expect to find out the truth if the interrogations were just torture sessions? When did all this change?

    • @astrinymris9953
      @astrinymris9953 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Torture was banned for most cases under English Law, but in cases of treason the ruler could order it to gain information about purported plots and uprisings. The logic was that civil wars caused so much harm to the body politic that the needs of the many outweighed the individual rights. I read somewhere that individuals were able to recant confessions under torture afterwards.

    • @stevekaczynski3793
      @stevekaczynski3793 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@astrinymris9953 In relation to Guy Fawkes, a letter by James I survives in which he instructs Fawkes to be tortured with the gentler stuff first and to make it worse and worse later. Fawkes' signature is very shaky on his confession, suggesting the torture left him barely able to write.

  • @niccoarcadia4179
    @niccoarcadia4179 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Tudor reformation of the is one of England's greatest shames. Thankfully we have more tolerance today. Also the Catholic church has become much more progressive.

  • @Slinkynuts
    @Slinkynuts 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    You moved the camera so we can't see any Kitty Kameos. :(

    • @6falconsue
      @6falconsue 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I love kitty photobombs and always look for them :-)

    • @anneboleynfiles
      @anneboleynfiles  5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Sorry, I wanted to show Tara's kind gifts. Actually, the cats were having too much fun elsewhere, I think they were testing gravity with a few items upstairs!

    • @crankyoldperson6871
      @crankyoldperson6871 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I too would miss kitties.

    • @Slinkynuts
      @Slinkynuts 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They were worth showing too. Loved the B necklace.

    • @stevekaczynski3793
      @stevekaczynski3793 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Who do you think was operating the camera?

  • @crankyoldperson6871
    @crankyoldperson6871 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Hi Claire,
    My question isn’t related to today’s post, but I’m curious to know if Catherine Parr could have refused the kings offer of marriage?

    • @anneboleynfiles
      @anneboleynfiles  5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      She would have risked causing offence but I think she could have refused and perhaps excused herself on the grounds that she was recently widowed.

    • @Kaytecando
      @Kaytecando 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Parr also risked coming under the blade with Henry VIII because of her religious reading with her ladies-in-waiting.

    • @angeliapittman4776
      @angeliapittman4776 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Poor queen Parr she was in love with Thomas Seymour I agree with the the question of queen turning Down marriage proposal, I think the king was not the type being told no I would have been
      Afraid king would take it for treason I'm glad I wasn't born in that time.

    • @lizmunt9116
      @lizmunt9116 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Bollox

    • @stevekaczynski3793
      @stevekaczynski3793 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Kaytecando The religion of the six wives, as I see it, was as follows:
      1. Catherine of Aragon - devout Catholic.
      2. Anne Boleyn - Protestant-inclined.
      3. Jane Seymour - whatever Henry wanted her to be.
      4. Anne of Cleves - ditto. Her father was a smaller-scale German analogue of Henry as he was a Catholic who fell out with the Pope. This resemblance was one reason she was considered suitable as a marriage partner for Henry.
      5. Catherine Howard - probably indifferent to religion but the Howards as a group were Catholic-inclined though they did not openly defy Henry.
      6. Catherine Parr - Protestant-inclined.

  • @ElizabethF2222
    @ElizabethF2222 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I am now shocked that Elizabeth I took part in religious persecution. Was always told the opposite! Such shameful actions back then.

    • @leanie9660
      @leanie9660 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Religious zealots forced her to react against insurrection. The pope told every Catholic that they should murder her. The real problem was always the leaders of the churches..they wanted everyone's money.

    • @6falconsue
      @6falconsue 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Bloody Mary I's much shorter reign was no picnic either, with all the burnings of heretics. Yes, all such religious persecution was, and still is, horrifying.

    • @ElizabethF2222
      @ElizabethF2222 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@leanie9660 Agreed!

    • @Cissy2cute
      @Cissy2cute 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Jesuits and other Catholics were calling for her assassination. She was walking around with a target on her back, so to speak.

    • @janbadinski7126
      @janbadinski7126 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      She was almost as bad as bloody Mary.

  • @anitarichmond8930
    @anitarichmond8930 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Well, you got a chuckle out of me, when you said" you didn't think he had rats jumping off of him."how I did laughed 👑

  • @wcfheadshots240
    @wcfheadshots240 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Elizabeth said she would not make windows into men's souls so why did she persecute Priests? Did she not learn how cruel her sister's behavior was?

    • @anneboleynfiles
      @anneboleynfiles  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      It was following her excommunication. The pope released English Catholics from their allegiance to her, brander her a usurper, ordered them to disobey her and rebel against her. See my video th-cam.com/video/sS__T7HLURM/w-d-xo.html for an explanation of this.

  • @elizabethspedding1975
    @elizabethspedding1975 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The tapestry looks great.😼

  • @aryiastark4698
    @aryiastark4698 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Kit Harrington an actor on game of thrones is actually an old nobel his ancestor was involved in the gun powder plot. He married a fellow actress from ireland last name leslie i am wondering if she is a kin to the irish nobel house of leslie

  • @stevekaczynski3793
    @stevekaczynski3793 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Early on, Roman Catholic priests were barred from being ordained in England. Elizabeth seems to have hoped that Roman Catholicism would die out if there were no priests as Catholicism depends on them. The ordination of Catholic priests in Douai and Rheims was a challenge as they prevented this gradual disappearance of Catholicism from happening.
    Puritans were seen as another threat. A writer named Patrick McGrath wrote an interesting book in the 1960s on Papists and Puritans in the reign of Elizabeth I. I attended a talk he gave in the 1980s, concentrating on the Catholic aspect.

  • @ElizabethF2222
    @ElizabethF2222 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I love Elizabeth I because she did not believe in religious persecution, unlike Mary who was, seemingly enough, happy to burn Protestants because they didn't believe as she did, thus her nickname "Bloody Mary." Gee, Mary, I see why you earned that name! Love this series and look forward to every notification from the Anne Boleyn Files and Tudor Society. Thank you, Ms. Ridgway!

    • @mercy8406
      @mercy8406 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Actually, this execution is from Elizabeth I's reign. They both were guilty of religious persecution, Although Mary has gotten most of the blame for it. Claire talks about the sometimes unfair villanization of Mary I in a recent video. Not saying she was innocent, She was obviously wrong and committed cruel acts, but so did most of the other monarchs in Europe, including her father, and sister, who killed just as much, if not more, people than she did.

    • @6falconsue
      @6falconsue 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I mentioned "Bloody Mary" in response to a comment you made above before I saw this comment. I read Alison's Wier's book The Children of Henry VIII and the descriptions of the burnings were so disgusting I had nightmares.

    • @ElizabethF2222
      @ElizabethF2222 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@6falconsue I most likely would have nightmares as well. That age was so cruel in their punishments!

    • @ElizabethF2222
      @ElizabethF2222 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@mercy8406 I was shocked. I thought Elizabeth once said something to the effect that it wasn't up to her to "look into men's souls." Saw that on a BBC documentary about the Tudors with David Starkey. I think it was called "From the Prison to the Palace." I'm so glad I found Ms, Ridgway's channel, as she seems to have way more knowledge being an author herself.

    • @ElizabethF2222
      @ElizabethF2222 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@mercy8406 Yes, I'm learning more and more about this subject. I guess Mary has carried most of the blame. Wonder why that is, though?

  • @lyndybinder4733
    @lyndybinder4733 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Love the cross stitch... always cross stitching something!!!! Never miss your channel. Love it. Just as an aside kit Carrington is a direct descendant of Robert Catesby on his mother's side!!!

  • @pat412pear
    @pat412pear 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Why was he not beatified and canonized until the 20th century? And what was the impetus for it to happen then? Any thoughts?

    • @annettefournier9655
      @annettefournier9655 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @Elizabeth Frantes mother Teresa bought and paid for her sainthood in cold hard cash to the Vatican. She was vile to the poor , sick and suffering. It was an old Catholic doctrine of be happy in your suffering it is God's will and it will be over soon enough. The old Catholic churches did nothing to help their parishioners in need but always demanded two and three offerings of money from them every Sunday to support themselves like kings.

    • @stevekaczynski3793
      @stevekaczynski3793 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I believe a large number were beatified in the 1880s. Published accounts of Catholic martyrs by Bede Camm and others date from around the end of the 19th century, probably as part of the preparation to beatify others. More and Fisher were not canonised until 1935, and Southwell and 39 others were canonised in 1970 as the 40 Martyrs of England and Wales. In 1987 there was a large number of new beatifications.
      The rather swift beatifications and canonisations of people, especially under John Paul II, have been criticised in comparison with the slower processes of the past.

    • @stevekaczynski3793
      @stevekaczynski3793 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@annettefournier9655 She considered poverty a perfectly natural state - the political right wing certainly shares this view and liked her more than the left did. She certainly did little to relieve poverty.

    • @frumaatholoid
      @frumaatholoid 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@annettefournier9655 ah good old anti-catholic bigotry.

    • @annettefournier9655
      @annettefournier9655 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@frumaatholoid Not at all. But I call a spade a spade.

  • @michaellyon9220
    @michaellyon9220 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    ✨📚 cool 😎, i’m not much of a reader but I enjoy audiobooks so I looked up -gods traitor -- now it’s on my want to read on audio 👍🏻.
    I’ll have to look up the Edward VI book as well, hopefully it’s on audio as well 📚✨
    UUUPDATE !
    Found the Edward book in audio
    ✨👌🏻

  • @territ7952
    @territ7952 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Yeah my Claire fix💕💞💓💗

  • @leanie9660
    @leanie9660 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love Claire, but I have to speed up the narrative...1.25 is pretty good

    • @anneboleynfiles
      @anneboleynfiles  5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That's fine, do whatever you need.

  • @orlando1a1
    @orlando1a1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I can think of another Tudor Southwell - Sir Richard, who somehow escaped execution and really was a low life.

    • @stevekaczynski3793
      @stevekaczynski3793 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      He was a relative of Robert Southwell.

    • @stevekaczynski3793
      @stevekaczynski3793 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      According to Nichol, there was an even more striking case of the same extended family producing a martyr and a scoundrel. A certain Thomas Drury was caught up in the intrigue about atheism around the time of Christopher Marlowe's death and seems generally to have been an unsavoury type. He died of the plague at the Swan Inn in Southwark in 1603. Robert Drury, a Catholic priest, was hanged, drawn and quartered in London in 1607. Nichol describes them as related to one another though Wikipedia does not confirm this. The Drurys do seem to have been influential - Drury Lane is named after one member of the family.

  • @MegaAnimalcare
    @MegaAnimalcare 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am janey brown and I live in fort Collins Colorado and I love history all kinds but my favorite is British

  • @facetedperspectives9950
    @facetedperspectives9950 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The barbarism that occurred in English history in the name of religion really quite disgusting. This country was the embodiment of civilization⁉️⁉️⁉️ Gross.... just plain disgusting😖😖😖

  • @uncatila
    @uncatila 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Saint Robert Southwell
    Would that I was hunted now to shut my well of ink.
    long ago a pen could slay the lies that men would think.
    Cast me then a highwayman
    who robbed men of their pride
    I would not then to their tavern go to prais nor to deride
    While counting there my treasures new
    The old ones all forsaken
    Those wears of trash that I would spew
    upon the road less taken
    It can be said that stolen theft will never be a sin
    By cutting at the root of that by which
    the thief would win.
    The purse that's filled with usery was stole all with glee
    while the bounty of good fortune there was singing in the trees
    So do not make provision for that which will not fly
    It weighs you down in ditches here wherin your sure to die.
    Henry 8th her father looted 900 years of accumulated Church property than made it the foundation of a usurious system of money lending which led to the American Revolution and Dickens necessary treatment of England's social ailments
    brought about by the Protestant revolt.

  • @stevekaczynski3793
    @stevekaczynski3793 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think modern interpretations of characters in Shakespeare's often fail to take account of the time he lived in. Isabella in "Measure For Measure", a novice preparing to become a nun, becomes angry with her brother Claudio when he begs her to have sex with the judge Angelo in order to save his life. She later says, "More than our brother is our chastity", and tends to be criticised nowadays, yet her behaviour is typical of the religious - Catholic or Protestant - of her age.

  • @colinlavelle7806
    @colinlavelle7806 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Once again Claire a very fair and well balanced event in Elizabeth's reign. It really was a ghastly form of execution. Perhaps the Pope should have stayed out of the English political scene. And I can understand that the Queen had few options. At least priests were given the opportunit to leave England but many would have seen it as their duty to stay and minister to the catholic community. catholic

  • @annm.7176
    @annm.7176 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The Tudors were terrible. What I thought was interesting many of the people that they killed had names like our forefathers that came in as pilgrims.

  • @annettefournier9655
    @annettefournier9655 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    So very nice of the pope to condemn his innocent followers to persecution and horrific deaths.

  • @h.calvert3165
    @h.calvert3165 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very disappointed in the virulent anti-Catholic comments. We don't all believe alike, but I think hate speech is uncalled-for on a channel like this which aims for civil educational exchange. Makes me re-think being a subscriber to an extent. And just to be clear, I would feel the same no matter which religious group was being slammed. 😞

  • @annm.7176
    @annm.7176 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    A lot of priests were executed

    • @stevekaczynski3793
      @stevekaczynski3793 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Approximately 120 in Elizabeth's reign.

  • @lisajames2729
    @lisajames2729 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    These people are very barbaric in those days

  • @marymoriarity2555
    @marymoriarity2555 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    All these executions for nothing I do not admire this society at all. The papacy was just as radical and disgusting. Little wonder people left to travel to the new world. However they brought their prejudices with them. These things continue today.
    Aren’t these any pleasant things tgat happened then? The videos are interesting but many are so steeped in Marymount and murder.

  • @Imnothighpromise
    @Imnothighpromise 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Imagine how much death and violence could have been avoided if there weren't any religions..

    • @Imnothighpromise
      @Imnothighpromise 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Strefanasha I mentioned nothing about wars. I merely stated about death and violence in the name of religion.
      How many people have died in the name of religion?
      "This question is impossible to answer. I'm not being fatuous or dodging the question - it's literally impossible.
      Sure, you can get rough estimates from the Crusades, and we know pretty close to exactly how many people died in 9/11 attacks. I also disagree with Toni Shuma: it doesn't matter what the supposed root cause was: if religion was used as the tool of choice to get people to do the killing, then it was done in religion's name. It doesn't matter that the actual reason was politics or money - the killing was carried out because of religion.
      It's a moot point, however. Young girls were allowed to be burned alive in Saudi Arabia because they weren't wearing the right clothes; although we've got the numbers for the most recent event, how many times has this happened in the past? Due to the constant pressures of religion, there have been many homosexual women and men who have taken their own lives - how many? On a similar note, many (if not most) gay-bashing that has ended in death was fueled, if not by religion, then by the prudery and prurient interest in the sexual activities of others that religion injects into culture. The KKK was (is?) a religious organization, fueled by what even I see as a gross misinterpretation of the words of the Bible - but it's still religious belief, so how many people have they killed?
      In short, we have no numbers. Sure, we've got the numbers on religious wars; what we don't have is the collateral damage. Things like the spread of AIDs in Africa: we'll never know how much of that was caused/influenced by the Catholic Church's condom doctrines. It's just impossible to know.
      In the interest of fairness, I want to point out that the opposite is also true: we can never know how many lives religion has saved, either."