Veronica Mars walked so Riverdale could- well,,,like, crawl weakly out of a storm drain, covered in mud and shit and then immediately get hit by a truck and driven around for three miles
She was given the gift that only people of color have, I like you have never watched i this show but now I will check it out, Just to see if it still stands up as a good show or at that time period it was a good show
Veronica went to high school with Valkyrie and Jessica Jones, her bf's friend's stepmom was Cordelia Chase, her bf's adopted sister was Willow, she dated Schmidt from New Girl and her dad was a mob boss on Person of Interest. They had some great casting tbh.
Well shit. I completely had the wrong idea. I was an idiot who could explain how babies were made. You take small animal parts and stitch them together at Build a Bear. Voila! A baby exists.
And I'll add on by saying, its cool when you make the most hated teacher seem incompetent. Those condescending teachers who don't care if kids fail or not are funny when you knock their ego down a bit
It's cool to be smart AND hot. All there is to it. Of course the girls are gonna be rolling their eyes, millionaire's daughters, 8 out of 10 chance they're stuck up af.
Fun fact: Veronica goes undercover at another highschool in season 1 episode 16 "Betty and Veronica".... she literally pretends to be a transfer student named Betty from Riverdale, so i would say the similarities are possibly intentional, or at least the writers were very aware of it
Another fun fact: At the time the episode aired, Riverdale was not a thing but Archie comics definitely were. The detective angle wasn't a Betty Cooper thing at that time. So while Riverdale might have taken traits from Veronica, Veronica wasn't taking traits from Riverdale's Betty. She was using the name and place of someone she knew from a comic book.
breathlesscharm veronica mars making an archie comics reference doesn’t mean the riverdale writers are aware of the similarities...infact when someone on twitter said they liked the nancy drew from the new cw show bettter, he said “no need to make comparisons...especially when ours came first” so i doubt he knows about veronica mars 🤦♀️ plus, the reference wasn’t about how similar veronica mars is to archie comics betty bc they’re really not. veronica mars is more similar to the “bitchy” personality of archie comics veronica lodge and her “sweet goody-two-shoes” persona undercover being called “betty” is similar to bettys personality in the comics hence it was supposed to reference the dichotomy between betty and veronica. riverdale made a lot of changes...archie comics isn’t about murder so betty doesn’t even have that detective angle there
cchase Maybe I’m biased but I think Veronica Mars is an entirely original character of her own. Any human being in the world has attributes that are similar to one another. It doesn’t mean they are similar enough to be the same thing or that the writers were inspired that deeply by it. Thats just my two sense as a Veronica Mars fan from 2007.
cchase And reading your statement I think you may have meant to speak to the original commenter, I said something very similar to what you did minus a couple things.
The dark teen noir concept has become popular these days, but what sets Veronica Mars apart from them, is that it actually has good writers. These shows like Riverdale have really bad writers that have obviously gone "Well, we have 15 episodes left of the season, as well as a contract for another 5 seasons. Lets just write a list of weird, funky story lines and pull them out of a hat"... I really loved the way that a few of these female driven tv shows from the 90s to early 2000s used a new thing to solve each episode, as well as an over-arching thing. For Veronica it was cases (with something like the Lilly Kane case - one that she just couldn't let slide), and for Buffy it was a new baddy (and then there was the big-bad each season, like the Master in the first season). Plus, these shows had a phenomenal cast and fantastic humour weaved through the drama. I don't know... Thats just the way I see it...
I agree. I think Riverdale tries to make up for it in tone with moody lighting and leather jackets. It comes off as trying too hard and the storylines are absolute cringe and not based in reality.
I totally Agree with you. It really feels that great writing for a show has to be an over abundance of sex or sexual tension between characters in order to make a believable show. I really do miss the 90s and early 2000s.
Cat Arya D And it all started with Buffy.....Veronica Mars took its concept of high school teenagers with a strong female lead solving mysteries from Buffy. Smallville also copied Buffy.
“My parents were always talking about how they used to be cool, back before they had kids or whatever. And I was so worried that I’d end up like that, but I had nothing to worry about. I was never cool in the first place.” 7:17 That is such a mood.
Such a missed opportunity to mention that during his Audible spiel! I was expecting him to tie in the VM books to the audio books on Audible. Why didn't Alex do it?
Watching "Veronica Mars" again just shows how Riverdale got it wrong and yes they are on the same network but let's be real here one has Rob Thomas, Veronica Mars, Keith Mars, Weevil, Wallace. Basically they are likeable characters but have that dark past. It's a you-have-to-get-the-formula-exactly-right sort of thing and Riverdale, whereas it has the characters that most of us love Archie, Betty, Veronica it gave them the darker past but didn't do it in the right way. They should have actually been fighting the supernatural from the beginning instead of solving the mystery.
Sharks The devil S1 of Riverdale shares ridiculous amounts of plot points with s1 of veronica mars, only with very much worse execution. VM S1 is utterly brilliant
The first season of Veronica Mars really is a classic...the 2nd was dope...3rd was a little convoluted. But that first season is one of the best seasons of teen drama ever...it had everything and Kristen Bell might be one of the best leads in a teen drama series ever...definitely in my top 3.
you know thats what they do in these kinds of movies. symbology IS KEY.... even in music like Pink Floyd they make symbology to alert the people of flat earth. Nasa has lied to us , the gov and the freemasons are behind it and we've all been duped for hundreds of years........ these things go back far.
I feel like the third went off the rails because they knew the show was losing viewership/on the chopping block and were trying to save it but they went about it in a really bad way. Also the totally unexpected season 3 finale cliffhanger still makes me mad
Same here. Season 1 is my favourite because the murder mystery and most standalone episodes are top notch. My top 3 teen drama (Netflix's Sex Education & Buffy the Vampire Slayer).
Duncan and Veronica didn't break up because of Lilly's murder, in fact they broke up before Lilly's murder as we see some flashback of Lilly consoling Veronica about it, telling Veronica that she would talk to Duncan about it, and then telling Veronica to move on after apparently confronting Duncan, probably cus she found out the real reason and didn't want to crush and gross out Veronica. Duncan and Veronica broke up because Duncan's parents told him Veronica was his sister. Which is why they end up back together in season 2 after Keith had revealed the results of his paternity test to Veronica.
But thank god they weren’t actually siblings. I never liked Duncan even in season 2 when they got back together. However the best character (other than Veronica Mars) was weevil
Do they actually STAY together?? Or do they just break up again? Or do they break up and start doing that on and off stuff. Doesn't sound like Veronica but you know what happened to Gilmore Girls! Why would Rory go to Yale AND THEN quit it FOR A GUY! KNOWING HOW SHE WAS BORN! But you know whatever no underlying hatred there....
Zeianaire Diamond ew no. Veronica and Duncan start dating again until something big happens and he has to leave. Then she starts dating everyone’s favourite character (not weevil).
"Veronica Mars, shes a marshmallow" "I don't know what that means" ...alex...you clearly didnt watch all of the first episode if you dont understand what that means. Its something Wallace says to her
He also said that Duncan broke up with her because of her dad . Even though those events were totally reversed, and Duncan’s break up was a huge plot point.
She's 100% synthetic & not of this world..... the elites are artificially inseminating lab grown egg sacks to create a cocoon of synthetic human antromorphs which serve as an empty vessel for the reptilians , that then possess the bodies to interact with our 3D reality..... the gloves are on, the annunaki , who built the moon.
Deltath Riylaan You clearly read that very incorrectly. They were defending the show not hating it. thats why they said “You watch your mouth sir!!” Because they thought he was talking trash about the show.
@@heavenlystar292 Actually, it's you who read it incorrectly. He said, and I quote, "..Oh, you weren't not talking shit?" Weren't not. Let me rephrase it. Double negative. If he had just said "Oh, you weren't talking shit?" You'd be right. But he said weren't not. That means he's saying "Oh, you WERE talking shit? My bad.. Proceed." So he's telling him to continue talking shit. So.. no. The issue is not that I "clearly" read anything incorrectly. If anything, the issue is I read it CORRECTLY.
Veronica Mars is still one of my favorite shows of all time. Not saying that you should make videos about the whole series, but you should definitely watch it (or, at least the first 2 seasons). It's so good, the mysteries are so well thought out and planned but at the same time when they're revealed the answers are very unexpected, it's just... So great
@@Nuggie1999 I enjoyed the 3rd, but even I can admit that it was objectively not as good as the first 2 seasons, so when I'm recommending it to someone I tend to give that as a disclaimer--the 3rd season can be skipped, if they want (though in my personal opinion it's still worth watching). And I haven't seen the 4th yet.
My husband just watched the season one finale for the first time. I loved watching him see the reveal. He’s a writer so he really appreciates the writing.
@@Muslimah33 yessss! I honestly can't think of another show/movie that did mysteries so well. Usually the reveal either makes no sense/is very underwhelming (like on Lost) or the mysteries/storytelling are great but you can figure it out before the show actually reveals it (Psych did this a lot, and most crime dramas I've seen are like this). Veronica Mars is the perfect combination of loveable (but still flawed) characters, intriguing mysteries, smart and unexpected reveals, and good character development.
10 reasons from the top of my head why i love Veronica Mars: 1- Kristen Bell 2- She helped me fufill that space in my heart left by Buffy The Vampire slayer 3- She was the wicked cool underdog 4- I was growing up as a weird, lonely kid and these cool girl gave something to look up to 5- Veronica was a regular cool human girl that got her way simply by beign smart 6- Love the way she have great relationships with her best friends and her dad 7- Duncan Kane and Veronica 8- Logan and Veronica 9- Celeste Kane and Veronica 10- KRISTEN FREAKING BELL
"My so called life", "Buffy the vampire slayer", and "Veronica Mars", probably the 3 best teen dramodies ever made, and all three with kickass girls in the lead.
yeah but that's a spoiler we find out later and he's analyzing the first episode. although he is still incorrect, as far as we knew, we had no idea why Duncan ended things with her because it was before Lilly died and Keith hadn't accused his father yet
I frickin love Veronica Mars, it has everything I want. Mystery, a cute father-daughter relationship, humor, overcoming racism and classism, and grade A acting. I just wanted to make sure all the best elements of the show were in the comments somewhere b/c while Kristen Bell is great, she isn’t the only reason to watch the show.
I know right? Some of the twists and drama in that show had me hooked since episode 1 and i was soo mad then it got cancelled after season 3. That show was so good. 😭 But to be realistic we were all about that detective, drama and mystery with strong female leads. 👀
Why people enjoy Veronica Mars so much- because it’s a great television show. She’s a modern day Nancy Drew who’s the smartest one in any room and who takes no shit from anyone. 🤗
@@luminaorchis4376 But still has an ego. See, the problem with someone who won't take flak from anyone, is the fact that she ends up oozing out nothing but her own "flak". Sees it everywhere but in herself.
Wing Penguin Yeah, that episode was really fun, and because Veronica was undercover on another school, the episode was pretty different and refreshing! I really liked it too :)
back then the division between girls and boys interests r really distinct.. only girls allowed to publicly show love for make up, glitter, pink stuffs, boybands etc etc no boys would ever dare to admit they watched Sailormoon when they were little and was excited to watch Charmed every Friday today nobody cares if a boy likes any of that a straight man today won't even feel ashamed/feeling demasculinized to publicly show love for female-centric TV shows or musicals or chick flick movies
The pilot episode is a flipping work of art. Everything you need to know about who these characters are and how they interact is laid out in episode one. If you watch episode one, your reaction is the correct one. If you loved it, you will love the rest of the series. If you hated it, you will hate the rest of the series. There is no retooling of the show later in the first season or the second. The show was born perfect in the pilot. You can't say that about many shows.
DUDE I AM LITERALLY WATCHING VERONICA MARS RN. also i'm obsessed i've watched it once and i'm rewatching it because i need background sound while i'm working
I just watched all of Veroncia Mars and I was curious as to how you were going to make it seem "bad" because it is one of the best shows, storywise and written that I've seen in this genre in a long time. I'm glad you also liked it, and while there are some cheesy bits, like with any show, it was so well done, and every episode brought you closer to the truth, even if it didn't seem like it.
Oh my gosh you actually did it!!!! XD Also the marshmallow thing is a callback to what Wallace called her when she helped him out. You barely scratched the surface of the show but I hope once you watch more of it that you will do another video, because oh boy it’s a ride!
Kristen Bell has maintained her stunningly great looks because,from what I understand,she's never been much of a party girl and has taken care of herself over the years.
I wasn't even going to watch the video as I'm a huge fan of the show. Figured this was bashing it. But curiosity got the best of me and I started watching it expecting to shut it off soon after but then it didn't trash the show so I watched it all.
I just finished this series last night. For some reason, I forgot you said that the show ended and then had a movie and a new season so I was all kinds of worked up over the fact that the CW canceled such a good show. As someone who watches the Dollar Store Betty Show, VM was ahead of their time. They talked about real taboo topics (many still taboo), while still making a kickass, mind-blowing helluva show! The cast was phenomenal and the storylines and arcs were so well written. I can't wait to rewatch it.
Life is an illusion , time, money & the material world.... everything you think you are is a lie. You are living a lie because you are still in a deep trance. You are watching these highschool movies they're dumbing you down [ they = technocratic globalist elites who rule the world ]. Go do the research , wake yourself up.... you are more than your mind, you're more than your body.... and you are not of this world. Have a great temporary existence.
My kids, now grown, LOVED VMars. It was a must watch tv for us and we own the dvds. We’ve had some binge sessions on all four seasons and the movie, more than once. LoVe.
I watched Veronica Mars because I wanted something similar to Riverdale Season 1 (after Season 2's absolute flop). Veronica Mars was recommended- murdery mystery, small town, sarcastic on-again-off-again boyfriend. However, VM blows Riverdale out of the water. It tackles some serious issues, Kristen's acting is phenomenal, the father-daughter relationship is one of the best in TV, and Veronica is...well a total badass. If you haven't seen it, I can't recommend it enough.
Thank you for not trashing Veronica Mars, I LOVE this show, I have been a Marshmallow since 2005, (yeah, that ‘weird bit of monologue’ you were a little disingenuous about sprouted the name for ‘Veronica Mars’ fans.) I discovered it as a sophomore in college and I still love it. Even the soundtrack for the episodes really expanded my musical tastes, I played the season albums constantly bc the song selection was so damn good. ***”A long time ago, we used to be friends...”*** ❤️
This is my mom’s favorite show ever and she convinced me to watch it. It’s definitely not the best show ever, but it gave off the best “quirky teen drama show vibes” and I loved it.
idk i feel like his videos focuses less on the positive things (i'm new here it's kind of just what i noticed) and i love b99 i'm scared that my opinions might change aksjsksk
This was an incredible show. I watched it through the first time after I heard about how big the kickstarter was after it happened. It reminded me of my own high school experience in a very visceral way. Kristen Bell, Jason Dohring, and Enrico Colantoni were all incredible with amazing chemistry. Season 2 in particular does not hold back its dramatic punches and I absolutely love it and the first season. Unfortunately, the show pulled a Buffy (In many many ways, I often associate them together) and stopped being nearly as interesting when they went to college. Season 3 was just... okay? At best? It has some good episodes but I feel like it lost what made the show great. Then the movie happened, which was pretty good, a fanservice-y film that was very enjoyable. Then you've got the two books (The first one's audiobook being narrated by Kristen and she /kills/ it), and now the Hulu season, which was good, mostly. What I mean is that for the most part the season is better than season 3, but worse than the first two and then absolutely slips at the finale. There were a million ways to end that season in a satisfactory (And even depressing) way, and they bungled it. I'm pretty sad about that, though honestly this series is still in my top five favorite shows, even including its failures.
Growing up it was literally the only "teenage drama" show I watched. I tried some others like One Tree Hill, but the fact that most of the time the teen drama was basically, more or less, all that was going on, and the rest was really there to drive that or allow it to happen, bored me fast. Veronica Mars is basically a mystery/crime solving show, but with teen drama mixed into it. And it's really good imo, I think it holds up to this day.
Veronica Mars walked so Riverdale could- well,,,like, crawl weakly out of a storm drain, covered in mud and shit and then immediately get hit by a truck and driven around for three miles
i love this
Zoe MH this was beautiful
A true work of art. 👏
You forgot, then smoke a crack pipe twice every day for 15 years and then be addicted to every illegal substance ever made, and never recovered
😂😂😂😂
Alex: I didn’t watch Veronica Mars because the main character was a girl
Also Alex: was a fan of Glee and Gossip Girl
And vampire diaries 😂
*Insert thonking*
To be fair, the show was in 2004 and he was a freshman. Glee was what 2007? So was the vampire diaries 😁 I guess he changed his mind
White don't crack she probably a healthy actress
Raven M he for sure did lmaoo this was a joke. Just to poke a little bit of fun
This video convinced me to bingewatch the whole series and now I'm mad because the final episode made me cry like a baby
ally Silman the oh or reboot
Same happened to me, all that binge watching, just to get your heart broken.
plz spoil it for me im too lazy
Did you watch the movie?
I know but no spoilers since I haven't watched the last 2/3 episodes. All I know is that they die and I'm not ready for that right now (or ever).
"How does Kristen Bell look exactly the same 15 years later?"
She a vampire, like Avril Lavigne. _Duh._
She's not a vampire. She's a goddess.
ScionStorm she’s at least mine 🤩
She was given the gift that only people of color have, I like you have never watched i this show but now I will check it out, Just to see if it still stands up as a good show or at that time period it was a good show
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Why does everyone like veronica mars so much
Because it has kristen bell duhhh
Teri photo aadhi kyu hai?
she is a queen
Yes, Kirsten Bell makes everything she's in 1000% better. I adore her in "The Good Place" and "Frozen"!⛄
Yas love her
Bcz veronica mars is awsome
When he says “Betty cooper is the just the dollar general version of Veronica Mars” I was dying
I remembered an episode from season one where she pretends to be Betty cooper from Riverdale it's kinda funny 😀
same!
I haven't watched Veronica Mars but only heard about it. I guess Alex is here to inform me to why everyone loves this show.
I recommend this show it is really good
I recommend watching this show, i really liked it and i think you should give it a shot
Haven’t heard of it until today
it's really good in its second, third and fourth seasons. you should give it a watch
Really awesome
Veronica went to high school with Valkyrie and Jessica Jones, her bf's friend's stepmom was Cordelia Chase, her bf's adopted sister was Willow, she dated Schmidt from New Girl and her dad was a mob boss on Person of Interest. They had some great casting tbh.
Jax the Ripper this is the greatest comment I’ve ever seen 😱
When they cast Jessica Jones, I literally thought "I can't believe they cast Chlamydia flowers as superpowered VM"
I knew her dad looked familiar! Can't believe that guy played Elias on Person of Interest! 😀
😂
She dated Schmidt?? Back when he was fat? That's awesome.
Veronica Mars is so badass back then, even now actually. I remember memorizing her witty come backs so I can use it later.
No, she’s a Captain Marvel of Hulu. Living in a world that adores her more than she deserves.
@@sonicinfinity1871 CM living rent free in your head still huh
Omg same. “If I wanted to hear from a cockroach I’d wave a sausage over your nose.”
“Betty Cooper- The dollar store version of Veronica Mars”
I still think river dale should include your Archie’s abs musical
Yes to that!! 😆
WHEEZE
And I OOP
And Veronica is the discount Blair Waldorf
make a petition 2 add the musical
Kristen Bell and Anne Hathaway have the same magic potion 😗😂
Money and good genes
I think Julie Andrews gave it to them.
Don’t forget Paul Rudd
Keanu Reeves too
and jennifer aniston
I loved Veronica Mars so much that I copied her first season haircut back in high school
....9 years after the first season aired.
The Veronica Mars first season haircut is one of my all-time favorite haircuts too bad I could never pull it off
As long as you didn't wear those pants with it. Sheesh.
I had it too! It was my favorite haircut ever!
Same! *high five*
Ive done Duncans haircut before. It kinda works.
From a nerd to another nerd, Alex, it is apparently not cool to be smart but it IS cool to make a teacher seem incompetent.
Ya welcome uncle Alex!
Because all the cool kids usually like to blame their shitty grades on the school system and not their lack of effort?
@Domi Berthoux Musta seen some different cool kids than I have then
Well shit. I completely had the wrong idea. I was an idiot who could explain how babies were made. You take small animal parts and stitch them together at Build a Bear. Voila! A baby exists.
And I'll add on by saying, its cool when you make the most hated teacher seem incompetent. Those condescending teachers who don't care if kids fail or not are funny when you knock their ego down a bit
It's cool to be smart AND hot. All there is to it.
Of course the girls are gonna be rolling their eyes, millionaire's daughters, 8 out of 10 chance they're stuck up af.
The greatest thing about VM, besides VM, is Logan's character arc. Powerfully written.
ExActly. I live for that kind of character development!
i was trying to find a comment like yours omg
Yea
Yes may he forever Rest In Peace 😭❤️
Exactly!
Fun fact: Veronica goes undercover at another highschool in season 1 episode 16 "Betty and Veronica".... she literally pretends to be a transfer student named Betty from Riverdale, so i would say the similarities are possibly intentional, or at least the writers were very aware of it
So you infer that it was maybe not intended to be a reference to Archie comics?
Another fun fact: At the time the episode aired, Riverdale was not a thing but Archie comics definitely were. The detective angle wasn't a Betty Cooper thing at that time. So while Riverdale might have taken traits from Veronica, Veronica wasn't taking traits from Riverdale's Betty. She was using the name and place of someone she knew from a comic book.
breathlesscharm veronica mars making an archie comics reference doesn’t mean the riverdale writers are aware of the similarities...infact when someone on twitter said they liked the nancy drew from the new cw show bettter, he said “no need to make comparisons...especially when ours came first” so i doubt he knows about veronica mars 🤦♀️ plus, the reference wasn’t about how similar veronica mars is to archie comics betty bc they’re really not. veronica mars is more similar to the “bitchy” personality of archie comics veronica lodge and her “sweet goody-two-shoes” persona undercover being called “betty” is similar to bettys personality in the comics hence it was supposed to reference the dichotomy between betty and veronica. riverdale made a lot of changes...archie comics isn’t about murder so betty doesn’t even have that detective angle there
cchase Maybe I’m biased but I think Veronica Mars is an entirely original character of her own. Any human being in the world has attributes that are similar to one another. It doesn’t mean they are similar enough to be the same thing or that the writers were inspired that deeply by it. Thats just my two sense as a Veronica Mars fan from 2007.
cchase And reading your statement I think you may have meant to speak to the original commenter, I said something very similar to what you did minus a couple things.
Wait now you HAVE to do the Good Place.
I love that show
oh heck yeah
Yas yas PLEASE!!
He watched it but Idk y he made a video about it
Now that is an amazing show
The reason everyone liked this show is because the main character is played by the legendary Kristen Bell
"Legendary?" What are you smoking?
Bruh the only people who are watching that show only came for Kristen Bell, and I would definitely be one of them.
Legit don't know who she is
chinesecigarettes 00 She voices Anna in Frozen, along with other roles in other things
true
Marshmallow is from earlier in the episode. Wallace calls her marshmallow when they are sitting together at lunch
Actually it was at the beach before Logan and the 09er boys rocked up and smashed her lights.
"You're a marshmallow Veronica Mars...a twinkie!"
@Morro Did you watch the episode? Don't you don't get the context
@Morro yeaaah the attempt at humor often in this show's dialogue is pretty fucking awful holy shit.
It's also why fans of the show are called Marshmallows.
The dark teen noir concept has become popular these days, but what sets Veronica Mars apart from them, is that it actually has good writers. These shows like Riverdale have really bad writers that have obviously gone "Well, we have 15 episodes left of the season, as well as a contract for another 5 seasons. Lets just write a list of weird, funky story lines and pull them out of a hat"...
I really loved the way that a few of these female driven tv shows from the 90s to early 2000s used a new thing to solve each episode, as well as an over-arching thing. For Veronica it was cases (with something like the Lilly Kane case - one that she just couldn't let slide), and for Buffy it was a new baddy (and then there was the big-bad each season, like the Master in the first season). Plus, these shows had a phenomenal cast and fantastic humour weaved through the drama.
I don't know... Thats just the way I see it...
I agree. I think Riverdale tries to make up for it in tone with moody lighting and leather jackets. It comes off as trying too hard and the storylines are absolute cringe and not based in reality.
I totally Agree with you. It really feels that great writing for a show has to be an over abundance of sex or sexual tension between characters in order to make a believable show. I really do miss the 90s and early 2000s.
Also the show has redeemable villains, good ones, and that’s really hard to do
PandaBear905 although, Aaron Echolls can never be redeemed - nor should he ever, really.
Cat Arya D And it all started with Buffy.....Veronica Mars took its concept of high school teenagers with a strong female lead solving mysteries from Buffy. Smallville also copied Buffy.
“My parents were always talking about how they used to be cool, back before they had kids or whatever. And I was so worried that I’d end up like that, but I had nothing to worry about. I was never cool in the first place.” 7:17
That is such a mood.
Crisis averted 🥲
He used this same joke in another video and I still die
You forgot to mention the two books that took place after the movie! But Veronica Mars is everything Riverdale tries to be but will never achieve.
SHADE! but man, it’s definitely true tho.
Such a missed opportunity to mention that during his Audible spiel! I was expecting him to tie in the VM books to the audio books on Audible. Why didn't Alex do it?
Isn't both kinda different shows and stories?and they both are from the CW right?
Watching "Veronica Mars" again just shows how Riverdale got it wrong and yes they are on the same network but let's be real here one has Rob Thomas, Veronica Mars, Keith Mars, Weevil, Wallace. Basically they are likeable characters but have that dark past. It's a you-have-to-get-the-formula-exactly-right sort of thing and Riverdale, whereas it has the characters that most of us love Archie, Betty, Veronica it gave them the darker past but didn't do it in the right way. They should have actually been fighting the supernatural from the beginning instead of solving the mystery.
Sharks The devil S1 of Riverdale shares ridiculous amounts of plot points with s1 of veronica mars, only with very much worse execution. VM S1 is utterly brilliant
Alex: "Why did people like Veronica Mars?"
Me: "We used to be friends..."
XD...
100% this.
A long time ago.
But I haven't thought of you lately at all
Hahaha yes
Veronica and Wallace Friendship is one of the top 10 friendships in TV history
Yessss
@@persephonechapko9466 👍🏿 Lucas and Hayley from One Tree Hill and Clark and Chloe from Smallville in there too
@@c.j.c7919 I havent seen smallville, but yes I love Hayley and lucas friendship in OTH.
@@c.j.c7919 Scott and Stiles from Teen Wolf 👌🏾
@@squidwardtentacles7144 I guess
Veronica Mars is one of the most brilliant mystery shows on television.
The first season of Veronica Mars really is a classic...the 2nd was dope...3rd was a little convoluted. But that first season is one of the best seasons of teen drama ever...it had everything and Kristen Bell might be one of the best leads in a teen drama series ever...definitely in my top 3.
What are the other top 2?
you know thats what they do in these kinds of movies. symbology IS KEY.... even in music like Pink Floyd they make symbology to alert the people of flat earth. Nasa has lied to us , the gov and the freemasons are behind it and we've all been duped for hundreds of years........ these things go back far.
I feel like the third went off the rails because they knew the show was losing viewership/on the chopping block and were trying to save it but they went about it in a really bad way. Also the totally unexpected season 3 finale cliffhanger still makes me mad
Same here. Season 1 is my favourite because the murder mystery and most standalone episodes are top notch. My top 3 teen drama (Netflix's Sex Education & Buffy the Vampire Slayer).
Duncan and Veronica didn't break up because of Lilly's murder, in fact they broke up before Lilly's murder as we see some flashback of Lilly consoling Veronica about it, telling Veronica that she would talk to Duncan about it, and then telling Veronica to move on after apparently confronting Duncan, probably cus she found out the real reason and didn't want to crush and gross out Veronica.
Duncan and Veronica broke up because Duncan's parents told him Veronica was his sister. Which is why they end up back together in season 2 after Keith had revealed the results of his paternity test to Veronica.
Chase don’t spoil it for people who haven’t rewatched it in yearsss
But thank god they weren’t actually siblings. I never liked Duncan even in season 2 when they got back together. However the best character (other than Veronica Mars) was weevil
Do they actually STAY together?? Or do they just break up again? Or do they break up and start doing that on and off stuff. Doesn't sound like Veronica but you know what happened to Gilmore Girls! Why would Rory go to Yale AND THEN quit it FOR A GUY! KNOWING HOW SHE WAS BORN! But you know whatever no underlying hatred there....
Zeianaire Diamond ew no. Veronica and Duncan start dating again until something big happens and he has to leave. Then she starts dating everyone’s favourite character (not weevil).
@@tapititytap Ew no to what? Also who does she start dating?
The fictional "Neptune High" was filmed in my high school!
You went to Oceanside?
It was always funny to me because Oceanside high school was like the opposite of Neptune high
Alan Mendoza the writer lived in my home town
That’s amazing!
Cool 😎 lucky 🍀
“betty cooper is the dollar store version of veronica mars” BAHAHA SOOO TRUE
Maimuna Moon no not true
I died when he said that!!
"Veronica Mars, shes a marshmallow"
"I don't know what that means"
...alex...you clearly didnt watch all of the first episode if you dont understand what that means. Its something Wallace says to her
I mean seriously dude 😂
He also said that Duncan broke up with her because of her dad . Even though those events were totally reversed, and Duncan’s break up was a huge plot point.
@@ethancarly4996 during those few moments where you think what duncan thought was true… it was so unnerving i felt so uncomfy. good thing it wasn’t
@@user-ib1is7ny7r the scene of her vomiting in her car after meeting abel was one of the most tense moments by far !!!
It was for comedic purpose, I am sure :)
I thought Kristen Bell did a great job with her role as veronica mars.
i think she did too, her voice is very sardonic.
She's 100% synthetic & not of this world..... the elites are artificially inseminating lab grown egg sacks to create a cocoon of synthetic human antromorphs which serve as an empty vessel for the reptilians , that then possess the bodies to interact with our 3D reality..... the gloves are on, the annunaki , who built the moon.
@@imodium438 wtf did I just read
BETTY COOPER IS THE DOLLAR STORE VERSION OF VERONICA MARS I SCREAMED FACTS
bro same
But the Archie comics has been longer than the fucking Veronica Mars bitch
Strangerxx xxThings triggered
Tagesreste I’m not triggered it’s just really stupid that no one knew that lmao
Meme Queen It’s not “really stupid” as, it’s not at all common knowledge.
no one:
literally no one:
not even aliens:
me: oMg ItS kArEn FrOm MeAn GiRlS
me too XD
me but OmG iTs SoPhIe FrOm MaMmA mIa
Meanwhile I was like, “hey it’s lily from Veronica Mars!”
sammee
Me but OmG iT’s CoSeTtE fRoM lEs MiS!
"Why did everyone like Veronica Mars so much?"
You watch your mouth sir!!
..Oh, you weren't not talking shit?
My bad.. Proceed.
So you hate Veronica Mars and you wanted him to talk shit?
Deltath Riylaan Thats not what they were saying at all
Deltath Riylaan You clearly read that very incorrectly. They were defending the show not hating it. thats why they said “You watch your mouth sir!!” Because they thought he was talking trash about the show.
@@heavenlystar292 Actually, it's you who read it incorrectly. He said, and I quote, "..Oh, you weren't not talking shit?"
Weren't not. Let me rephrase it. Double negative. If he had just said "Oh, you weren't talking shit?" You'd be right. But he said weren't not. That means he's saying "Oh, you WERE talking shit? My bad.. Proceed." So he's telling him to continue talking shit. So.. no. The issue is not that I "clearly" read anything incorrectly. If anything, the issue is I read it CORRECTLY.
@@DeltathRiylaan Actually Heàvenly XX is right.. You read my comment incorrectly.
Veronica Mars is still one of my favorite shows of all time. Not saying that you should make videos about the whole series, but you should definitely watch it (or, at least the first 2 seasons). It's so good, the mysteries are so well thought out and planned but at the same time when they're revealed the answers are very unexpected, it's just... So great
What abt the last 2???
@@Nuggie1999 I enjoyed the 3rd, but even I can admit that it was objectively not as good as the first 2 seasons, so when I'm recommending it to someone I tend to give that as a disclaimer--the 3rd season can be skipped, if they want (though in my personal opinion it's still worth watching).
And I haven't seen the 4th yet.
My husband just watched the season one finale for the first time. I loved watching him see the reveal. He’s a writer so he really appreciates the writing.
@@Muslimah33 yessss! I honestly can't think of another show/movie that did mysteries so well. Usually the reveal either makes no sense/is very underwhelming (like on Lost) or the mysteries/storytelling are great but you can figure it out before the show actually reveals it (Psych did this a lot, and most crime dramas I've seen are like this). Veronica Mars is the perfect combination of loveable (but still flawed) characters, intriguing mysteries, smart and unexpected reveals, and good character development.
Didn’t Duncan break up with Veronica Bc he thought they were related which happened before Lilly’s death???
Yes!!!
But then we found out they were not related :)
yeah ithink alex was mistaken but we all make mistakes pooweepoo
You would have to watch the whole season to know any of that It’s not clear in the beginning
Yes all this is why Veronica’s mom was meeting with Duncan’s dad, and yeah crazy shit
10 reasons from the top of my head why i love Veronica Mars:
1- Kristen Bell
2- She helped me fufill that space in my heart left by Buffy The Vampire slayer
3- She was the wicked cool underdog
4- I was growing up as a weird, lonely kid and these cool girl gave something to look up to
5- Veronica was a regular cool human girl that got her way simply by beign smart
6- Love the way she have great relationships with her best friends and her dad
7- Duncan Kane and Veronica
8- Logan and Veronica
9- Celeste Kane and Veronica
10- KRISTEN FREAKING BELL
Lol never seen blurry the vampire
@Enigmystical premise just part of an argument are you stupid that’s not even a premise
Uh Duncan and Veronica were terrible
I love both Buffy and Veronica, but you lost me at Duncan
I despise Bell.
Veronica mars is awesome. You should definitely binge watch it. There's a lot off twists.
Logan and Veronica is the only tv ship that i cried for.. Like for a while.
Who? Who's Logan? No spoilers! 1st season! Unless the answer to my question is a spoiler then that's cool.
Zeianaire Diamond Logan was Lilly’s boyfriend we learn that in like episode 2...
@@zeianairediamond6863 Logan is the guy who dies in a car explosion.
Didn’t Logan rape her?
@@bonnevillebagger9147 no
Therapist: Realistic Alex can’t hurt you
Realistic Alex: 9:20
Yasss still one of my fave shows ever. Just actual well written characters and stories.
"My so called life", "Buffy the vampire slayer", and "Veronica Mars", probably the 3 best teen dramodies ever made, and all three with kickass girls in the lead.
Bleh.
Duncan didn't dump Veronica because he thought her dad blamed his dad it's because Duncan thought that he and Veronica were half-siblings!
yeah but that's a spoiler we find out later and he's analyzing the first episode. although he is still incorrect, as far as we knew, we had no idea why Duncan ended things with her because it was before Lilly died and Keith hadn't accused his father yet
@BangtanObsessed spoiler for a 15 year old show. I feel like it's allowed :p
🙃
@@jarlhenrik Not for those who loved the show, want to re-watch it after all these years and forgot everything about it 🥺😢
@@myaokane1337 Well, can't expect people to consider every single commenter.
Why? You ask me why? Because she was ahead of her time, like 10 years ahead.
please I wish there was shows this good now.
"Why does everyone love Veronica Mars so much?"
Two words: Kristen Bell.
I frickin love Veronica Mars, it has everything I want. Mystery, a cute father-daughter relationship, humor, overcoming racism and classism, and grade A acting. I just wanted to make sure all the best elements of the show were in the comments somewhere b/c while Kristen Bell is great, she isn’t the only reason to watch the show.
I know right? Some of the twists and drama in that show had me hooked since episode 1 and i was soo mad then it got cancelled after season 3. That show was so good. 😭 But to be realistic we were all about that detective, drama and mystery with strong female leads. 👀
Why people enjoy Veronica Mars so much- because it’s a great television show. She’s a modern day Nancy Drew who’s the smartest one in any room and who takes no shit from anyone.
🤗
And that is her biggest problem. In the end, she’s egotistical, and I’m basically expected to believe she has a right to be.
@@sonicinfinity1871 She’s not egotistical so much as she’s confident in her skills.
@@luminaorchis4376 But still has an ego. See, the problem with someone who won't take flak from anyone, is the fact that she ends up oozing out nothing but her own "flak". Sees it everywhere but in herself.
@@sonicinfinity1871 I mean, perfect characters are boring lmao why can't they have some flaws? Also you seem very pessimistic
@@kdmac8110 Oh I am
Veronica Mars is awesome. That's all I have to say.
Preach!
Funny that you should mention Betty Cooper, as Veronica once claimed to be her while undercover as a nod to the Archie Comics
I do remember her being betty cooper, never got the reference XD
Wing Penguin Same, it was only when I rewatched it earlier this year that I got it because of Riverdale XD
@@BearlyAwake13 To be honest, the betty cooper episode is one of my favorite (that is not main storyline related). Loved V's Marshmellow personality
@@BearlyAwake13 th-cam.com/video/y9Y1VmTQk1w/w-d-xo.html she says "Riverdale high school" and I still didn't get it! this is hilarious
Wing Penguin Yeah, that episode was really fun, and because Veronica was undercover on another school, the episode was pretty different and refreshing! I really liked it too :)
How did you not mention Logan Echolls once in this entire video 🙃 (but other than that I agree that Veronica Mars is a masterpiece)
Logan's presence in this pilot is not as pronounced as in the later episodes. So it's understandable.
@@bibiQQ while that is true Jason Dohring has an amazing presence that just can't be ignored.
BeCaUsE tHe mAiN ChAraCtEr iS A GurL
~Alex 2019
Edit: over 500 likes wow tysm
@brandon roberts yet he watched gossip girl lol
@@marys1032 gossip girl was a boy
In 2019 Everyone knows men don’t want to watch any movies or tv shows simply because the main character is a. Guuuurrrrlllllll
@@AndreNitroX well sometimes the gurl is just annoying
back then the division between girls and boys interests r really distinct.. only girls allowed to publicly show love for make up, glitter, pink stuffs, boybands etc etc
no boys would ever dare to admit they watched Sailormoon when they were little and was excited to watch Charmed every Friday
today nobody cares if a boy likes any of that
a straight man today won't even feel ashamed/feeling demasculinized to publicly show love for female-centric TV shows or musicals or chick flick movies
Wow, this pilot episode actually feels so early 2000s! lol!
The pilot episode is a flipping work of art. Everything you need to know about who these characters are and how they interact is laid out in episode one. If you watch episode one, your reaction is the correct one. If you loved it, you will love the rest of the series. If you hated it, you will hate the rest of the series.
There is no retooling of the show later in the first season or the second. The show was born perfect in the pilot. You can't say that about many shows.
"Veronica's not one to sit around watching stuff at 1 in the morning"
Me literally sitting on my bed watching this at 1 in the morning
To be fair, they didn't have TH-cam back then
DUDE I AM LITERALLY WATCHING VERONICA MARS RN.
also i'm obsessed i've watched it once and i'm rewatching it because i need background sound while i'm working
I just watched all of Veroncia Mars and I was curious as to how you were going to make it seem "bad" because it is one of the best shows, storywise and written that I've seen in this genre in a long time. I'm glad you also liked it, and while there are some cheesy bits, like with any show, it was so well done, and every episode brought you closer to the truth, even if it didn't seem like it.
I still don’t like it.
@@sonicinfinity1871 Good for you?
“We have beds... maybe” is the best motel name I have ever heard 😂
Veronica Mars IS the best show out there. It really is amazing
VERONICA MARS IS MY FAVORITE SHOW AND SHE WAS SUCH!! A!! ROLE!! MODEL!! TO ME
Jowana ikr. Makes me wanna be a PI. 🙂
Not a good one.
@@sonicinfinity1871 maybe not for you
@@j-a4161 No, just not in general.
@@sonicinfinity1871 according to you
“I never was cool to begin with” *i felt that*
keith mars response is oh wait that wasn’t me, starched that i was never cool
@@cyndiwhitakereiw5280 what
4:50 HE MISSIS THE OPPORTUNITY TO SAY “A long time ago”
Oh my gosh you actually did it!!!! XD Also the marshmallow thing is a callback to what Wallace called her when she helped him out. You barely scratched the surface of the show but I hope once you watch more of it that you will do another video, because oh boy it’s a ride!
Hey, you should do H20 Just Add Water!
This Bitch I used to love that series😌
My primary elementary school life right there
@@thesunrises7756 Me too! 😍
@@psaikoneve43 Same!
YESSS
Kristen Bell has maintained her stunningly great looks because,from what I understand,she's never been much of a party girl and has taken care of herself over the years.
Bleh.
Hahaha that’s not iiiit.
😂😂😂
“look at this girl knowing stuff...what a loser”
nooooo don’t come after veronica mars I actually like this one
Surprisingly this is one of the few that has been only praised and basically not mocked at all
@@tpsam gen lock was praised too
Don’t worry he says its good
Dude... do you even watch the whole video? He's obviously praised this show
I wasn't even going to watch the video as I'm a huge fan of the show. Figured this was bashing it. But curiosity got the best of me and I started watching it expecting to shut it off soon after but then it didn't trash the show so I watched it all.
Veronica:Veronica Mars she’s a marshmallow...
Alex: WAT?
He should do a video about the duff or 16 wishes
Like if u agree so he can see it
Edit: thanx for all the likes never got that many❤
16 wishes just bc of how weird it is
UFF HECK YES
We are speaking of the Disney channel version of 16 candles, yes?
@@dianevanhoozer6071 yup😂
@@dianevanhoozer6071 that's what I'm thinking of
Me: Dad, can I go to a creepy motel and investigate a suspect?
Dad: BuT iTs A sChOoL nIgHt
I just finished this series last night. For some reason, I forgot you said that the show ended and then had a movie and a new season so I was all kinds of worked up over the fact that the CW canceled such a good show.
As someone who watches the Dollar Store Betty Show, VM was ahead of their time. They talked about real taboo topics (many still taboo), while still making a kickass, mind-blowing helluva show! The cast was phenomenal and the storylines and arcs were so well written. I can't wait to rewatch it.
I think you explained perfectly why it was such a good show. Hope the new season is just as good.
"I used to be cool!!"
"When?"
*"77'"*
"Does this haircut say I'm a quiter to you"😂😂😂😂
Anyone else think Alex should do Teen Beach Movie?
That would be great! I loved that movie when I was younger but even then I knew it was ridiculous
[Pretending to get the 2004 nostalgia jokes even though I was still a baby]
Same
lol i wasn't even born yet
Yeah same I was 1
I was born then, lol
Betty from Riverdale is literally how Veronica introduced herself when she went "undercover" to another high school.
Let's just pretend season 4 never happened. IT never HAPPENED.
Deal?
Deal.
Can't we just pretend the last 10 minutes didn't happen and allow the rest to live?
@@vespers.c952 Yep
@@vespers.c952 That wedding was the perfect ending to the show~ (Nothing else happened... NOTHING ELSE)
Life is an illusion , time, money & the material world.... everything you think you are is a lie. You are living a lie because you are still in a deep trance. You are watching these highschool movies they're dumbing you down [ they = technocratic globalist elites who rule the world ]. Go do the research , wake yourself up.... you are more than your mind, you're more than your body.... and you are not of this world. Have a great temporary existence.
Please do Merlin on bcc I love that show
I like the show but did not like the end.
@@josephmucciolo301 who likes the end
End was crap
I'm so planning on watching it this summer because I've already tumbled into the fandom..
Miss merlin it was binge worthy
My kids, now grown, LOVED VMars. It was a must watch tv for us and we own the dvds. We’ve had some binge sessions on all four seasons and the movie, more than once. LoVe.
You should do more seasons of Once Opon a time. It gets so weird hahaha
I don't wish this upon my worst enemy 😂😂😂
@@SunnySummerSeasons I did this to myself voluntarily. Liked Lana Parilla's outfits. :D
Proud Marshmallow.
Thanks for the video.
3 seasons
1 movie
2 books
A new season
Yes, thank you for doing this TV show justice. It’s my favorite of all time!
I watched Veronica Mars because I wanted something similar to Riverdale Season 1 (after Season 2's absolute flop). Veronica Mars was recommended- murdery mystery, small town, sarcastic on-again-off-again boyfriend. However, VM blows Riverdale out of the water. It tackles some serious issues, Kristen's acting is phenomenal, the father-daughter relationship is one of the best in TV, and Veronica is...well a total badass. If you haven't seen it, I can't recommend it enough.
Thank you for not trashing Veronica Mars, I LOVE this show, I have been a Marshmallow since 2005, (yeah, that ‘weird bit of monologue’ you were a little disingenuous about sprouted the name for ‘Veronica Mars’ fans.)
I discovered it as a sophomore in college and I still love it. Even the soundtrack for the episodes really expanded my musical tastes, I played the season albums constantly bc the song selection was so damn good.
***”A long time ago, we used to be friends...”***
❤️
I just ended series and yeah music track is so good, first episode of season one is a masterpiece
This is my mom’s favorite show ever and she convinced me to watch it. It’s definitely not the best show ever, but it gave off the best “quirky teen drama show vibes” and I loved it.
Veronica Mars is incredible and I dont want to talk about season 4 it didn't happen 😭
I just hope that the thing we think happened didn't actually happen.
Truly 😞
It did, Rob Thomas is a...well, you know
I haven't watched this show yet but I plan to. Was season 4 bad?
@@jeremiah8080 It's what happened at the end of season 4 that's bad. The season shows were very good actually. There's a petition against it.
The thing with Veronica Mars is you watch the first few episodes for the mystery and you end up staying cause you love the characters
It is the one of the greatest shows I've ever seen. I miss this series. 🥰
Can u do Brooklyn 99 its on Netflix but it's not a Netflix original
idk i feel like his videos focuses less on the positive things (i'm new here it's kind of just what i noticed) and i love b99 i'm scared that my opinions might change aksjsksk
brooklyn 99 is amazing- lmaooo why would you want a video telling you why it’s bad to spoil it
No it's not on Netflix it's on HULU fixed
It’s not on Netflix in the US
Its on hulu
I cant wait till Decandants 3 comes out so he can do a video about that
This was an incredible show. I watched it through the first time after I heard about how big the kickstarter was after it happened. It reminded me of my own high school experience in a very visceral way. Kristen Bell, Jason Dohring, and Enrico Colantoni were all incredible with amazing chemistry. Season 2 in particular does not hold back its dramatic punches and I absolutely love it and the first season.
Unfortunately, the show pulled a Buffy (In many many ways, I often associate them together) and stopped being nearly as interesting when they went to college. Season 3 was just... okay? At best? It has some good episodes but I feel like it lost what made the show great. Then the movie happened, which was pretty good, a fanservice-y film that was very enjoyable. Then you've got the two books (The first one's audiobook being narrated by Kristen and she /kills/ it), and now the Hulu season, which was good, mostly. What I mean is that for the most part the season is better than season 3, but worse than the first two and then absolutely slips at the finale. There were a million ways to end that season in a satisfactory (And even depressing) way, and they bungled it. I'm pretty sad about that, though honestly this series is still in my top five favorite shows, even including its failures.
Kevin Thompson the season 2 beaver twist was so fricking good
“Sorry, is that a bit mushy? You know what they say: Veronica Mars, she’s a marshmallow.” LOL I DIEDD
Okay but Veronica Mars is *really good*
Being smart is only cool when you embarrass the teacher that nobody likes
Veronica Mars will forever be one of my favorite TV shows.
Alex: Why Does Everyone Like Veronica Mars So Much
*Also Alex: Oh yeah, they also got canceled.*
If I could change my habits, I’d be able to listen to an audiobook about changing my habits
I just love hearing your stories from high school. So relatable😂
These videos are amaaaaazing lol. I see shows from different angles now, thx to Alex & CinemaSin. *OH MY GOSH THEY SHOULD DO A COLLAB!*
Growing up it was literally the only "teenage drama" show I watched. I tried some others like One Tree Hill, but the fact that most of the time the teen drama was basically, more or less, all that was going on, and the rest was really there to drive that or allow it to happen, bored me fast. Veronica Mars is basically a mystery/crime solving show, but with teen drama mixed into it. And it's really good imo, I think it holds up to this day.
I felt personally attacked 😂 my boyfriend has a picture of himself holding fish and quotes Borat 🤣❤
This actually kinda sort-off reminds me Nancy Drew.
Because she kinda is but more noir.
@@DrGregoryHouseIT Yeah.