@jeremymklinger It seems like the movie versions of these characters have weaker lungs compared to their mainline game counterparts (at least, from what I've seen) and also keep in mind, they may be alien like, but they don't actually come from space. Just different worlds. As for Sonic breathing on the moon, it's possible the emeralds were keeping him safe and had enough power to do so. Also, the Ark probably, most likely, has some form of air locks, as it would make Gerald look pretty stupid if he were to build the ark and then just forget that he needs to breathe
@@jkspeed3677I only saw them needing to breathe in space when Super Sonic breaks in and the door closes, and the part where Gerald was about to drop Eggman into the Earth, but my guess was his technology
I was glad the movie didn’t treated knuckles as a complete Joke and actually showed that he is the power and muscle of the team. And he was pretty wise as well
I don't think Walters was *THAT* bad in this film. It was revealed in his younger years, he actually had a good relationship with Gerald, Shadow, and Maria before the incident. He tried to stop and talk the GUN soldiers out of casually shooting Maria, likely the cryofreeze solution was meant to help protect Shadow from becoming eliminated or be treated as a rogue by the outside world, he seemed to actually greatly sympathize with Shadow's situation way more than other GUN members when he was speaking to Sonic about him, and even admits GUN was in the wrong for what happened, all of this allowing Sonic the info he needed to sympathize with Shadow and possibly the reason Sonic hesitated to pierce his chest at the end of their fight. I'd bump him up one tier higher for that.
My Personal Rankings: ELITE - Sonic, Shadow, Robotnik, Gerald Comes in Clutch - Knuckles, Tails, Agent Stone Barely Does Anything - Tom, Maddie, Maria, Commander Walters, Director Rockwell (You forgot about her) WORTHLESS - Wade, Rachel, Randall
(Spoilery moments mentioned in case) Maria being worthless even though her presence and death was the driving force for Gerald and Shadow to do everything that got them in elite sounds so sad. She is the reason Shadow probably didn’t do something crazy 50 years ago. She taught him to have fun, to smile, and enjoy the little things and make him feel home in a world he just crashed into. Her conversation about the stars with Shadow is what helped made him connect with Sonic when they both were on the moon before making an alliance. Her destroyed items and room helped Sonic realize early on that Shadow had a connection with someone, and is hurting, so he kept trying for a peaceful tactic til Shadow hurt Tom, and in fact, when Shadow hurt To, and Sonic was panicking, he immediately thought of Maria and that made him realize the gravity of what he and Gerald were doing, and he questioned their choices to Gerald who was too far gone. Even Gerald’s betrayal to Eggman, saying “you are no Maria” like, oh my god deep cut. Maria may not have been around and only in flashbacks, but her impact on the characters should give her more than the worthless tag, even if the other tiers titles don’t make sense.. cuz like in a way their memories of her do be “coming in clutch” haha.
This video seems to be missing KEY STORY DETAILS that even explains why the characters do the things they do & not being the "Most Badass Fighter," which is what Maria's whole shtick is, but a MOTIVATOR/MORAL COMPASS/CATALYST to both Shadow & Gerald & the events of the story is anything BUT "Worthless." I think Characters like Maria should be in a category of their own like "Catalyst Category."
Man, putting Maria in 'worthless' tier. Shadow's going to break out of Elite tier, kill you, and carry her to Elite tier himself, literally stepping on everyone else in the process XD
Only disagree with tails, he did come in clutch at points. Although Maria is super important, not worthless the catalyst for the movie plot. I also think sonic only won against Shadow at the end as Shadow felt bad about Tom and was doing his "I'm a weapon and terrible" thing.
I feel like Walters actually deserves barely does anything. Sure, he froze Shadow for 50 years, and died really early, but he trusted Sonic with the key, made a serious attempt to stop GUN from killing Maria and almost succeeds, and per GUN's orders at the time it was either kill Shadow or else, and Walters came up with the cryofeeeze solution as an alternative to keep Shadow alive. Barely Does Anything tier seems more appropriate to me.
Walters didn't even truly freeze Shadow if what Shadow said is true: Shadow said, even when he was in "Stasis," that he was still CONSCIOUS-enough to still keep THINKING of the WORST MOMENT of his LIFE. FOR 50 YEARS (Unlike Movie Shadow, Game Shadow was truly frozen.). Walter's unintentionally, CAUSED so much MENTAL ANGUISH for Shadow that death might've been possibly a better fate. It's a MIRACLE Shadow didn't go INSANE from that alone.
I have to make an arguement for Maria. Maria shaped Shadow into who his is; a hedgehog with many layers. His character and contrast to Sonic is defined by how he deals with grief. He has a kind heart (thanks to Maria) but is consumed by the trauma of loosing her. Without Maria's presence, Shadow (and Gerald) wouldn't have a motivation, and the audience wouldn't have connected with Shadow or felt sympathetic towards him. Maria humanized Shadow. She doesn't need a lot of screentime. The impact she had is present throughout the entire film. That's enough to justify putting her in the Elite tier. At the very least the Coming in Clutch.
My favorite part is “spoiler alert” When “shadow said” oh your friend said well you betrayed them “Sonic said” don’t say his name “Shadow” Tom- Sonic was like 😡👊 Shadow was almost dead I think Omg l’m famous 96 likes
I'm pretty sure Shadow saying Tom's name wasn't for him being a jerk for the sake of being a jerk. I'm pretty sure Shadow actually had a "Death Wish" by that point. Remember Shadow actually looked guilty after hurting Tom because he mistook him for Walters.
Jim Carrey had to retire eventually and I'm glad they gave him the amazing send off. If he was younger then he would have stayed alive and came back for future roles.
The way she looked at them before the ambulance door closed made me think she regretted something regarding the boys. Which thankfully wasn’t the case but I was scared she was going to later say or do something that would mean Sonic, Tails, and Knuckled would be on their own. Idk why that was in my head considering she is a pretty sweet character to them
In tails defense if he didnt slow sonic down even a bit knuckles wouldn't have saved them But TBH i wouldn't say sonic was stronger than shadow, sonic hit him off guard BUT MAN THAT ACT 3 SCENE IN SPACE🔥🔥🔥🔥 live and learn playing+the power up scene+moon shot
BASE FORM Shadow knocked Sonic out of his Super Form, I think you can be knocked out of your Super Form if you're not 100% on your Guard & I think by bringing up TOM, Shadow was purposely trying to get Sonic to kill him somehow (I don't think Shadow wanted to beat Sonic in this fight.): Like in Shadow Generations, I think Shadow THREW THE FIGHT (For a different reason, though.): The fact Shadow brings up TOM, after looking guilty for attacking the wrong person (Walters) just moments earlier, tells me Shadow only did that to get Sonic MAD ENOUGH to WANT to KILL HIM. I think Shadow was feeling very morally conflicted & guilty for everything he did by that point & even WANTED Sonic to kill him because he probably thought he had nothing to "live for," anyway (Shadow knew Gerald's Plan meant he would die, anyway.). It's also the only time Shadow "wastes time" to taunt Sonic during a fight with him, too. Add to the fact Shadow actually looked "happy" asking Sonic to finish him makes me think Shadow didn't really care all that much to win the fight (Like Shadow never considers taking off his Limiters Rings if he really wanted to win.). Shadow, even at his most "Evil" in this Movie, I don't think he would be bringing up Tom just for the sake of "being heartless," unless there was an ULTERIOR MOTIVE behind it (Wanting to get Sonic to want to kill him because he wanted to die.). Remember before Shadow goes Super for the 1st time, Sonic said "I'm nothing like you," to which Shadow responds, "We shall see," suggesting Shadow was already 'testing' Sonic to see if he would go down the same path of vengeance as he did (Kill those who wronged you or your loved ones.).
I don't count as to Tom and Maddie barely does anything list especially when it's needed for them to infiltrate G.U.N's headquarters and prior the advice Tom give to Sonic later on in his fight with Shadow. Heck even in the 2nd movie that same advice he gives to Sonic help with his fight against Knuckles as well. Also sidenote and while this has nothing to do with this movie, in Sonic 2 while the wedding scene was almost not necessarily it does help by providing Tails to get the X tornado plane use in Rachel's wedding to go after Sonic.
Knuks being the only one who can re-enter the atmosphere without passing out, and also being able to shatter through a force feild that would usually fry somebody into ashes, makes him very OP in his own respect
Shadow intentionally let Sonic win in the end to prove that his path of revenge is not wrong. Also Shadow didn't remove the limiter rings against Sonic to show his full power.
@Hany_RL_YT Okay sonic fanboy with sonic pfp. You clearly didn't see the second credit scene in Sonic 3, Shadow's survive the eclipse cannon when he takes off the inhibitor rings. And Shadow definitely did let him win, do you seriously think him saying "do it, end me, get your revenge!" when he could have just teleport or removing the limiter rings as a last resort? 😂
@@lightchaos4204 i deleted 3 replies about what u said but i will just to give u this 1- if shadow is so powerful without the rings why doesnt he take them off 2- how is getting punched to the moom and all places on earth a plan from shadow 3- If you have an opinion why are you attacking any other opinion that doesnt statisfy you 4- Why do you care so much 5- no one is like the other 100% 6- whats wrong with having a sonic pfp? I can say the same about your description but i wont bec u have an opinion
@@Hany_RL_YT I also agree Shadow wanted to lose/die. And are you talking about the Punch that Knocks Shadow out of his Super Form? Shadow looked surprised/shocked, to me. And Shadow looks happy asking Sonic to kill him, too, so I think, whether or not Shadow was scared of actually dying, Shadow 'mainly' wanted Sonic to kill him. Note: Base Form Shadow is able to knock Sonic out of his Super Form & then Super Sonic knocks Shadow out of his Super Form. I think it's a matter of luck/catching the other Super Being Off Guard & that Shadow wasn't keeping his guard up (Because I don't think Shadow cared about keeping his guard up because he didn't really care to win in this fight.), which allowed Sonic to catch Shadow off guard & knock Shadow out of his Super Form. 1. The Movie never even brings up Shadow's Limiter Rings & why they exist, so we can't say for now, either way. But Shadow is able to sustain a Laser from the Eclipse Cannon without getting knocked out like Sonic & seems okay gathering his missing Rings at the end. And again we don't know if Shadow needs his Rings to live or it's just to help him to not be a danger to everyone else or both. I'm going to assume, Shadow can function for a long enough time without them since we've yet to see him dying from missing his Rings in the Movies so far. And Shadow does take 2 Limiters Off once he realizes what's worth fighting for & starts taking the fight 100% seriously. 2 things you can't really say for Shadow during his Super Fight with Sonic (When Shadow's Super for the 1st time. Not for the 2nd time.) for my reasoning below. 2. Before Shadow goes Super for the 1st time, Sonic says, "I'm nothing like you, to which Shadow says, "We shall see." This sounds likes Shadows not really wanting to beat Sonic in a fight so much but to see if Sonic will go down the same path of vengeance like his did. The Super Fight is basically a stalemate but it only changes once Shadow basically stops fighting anymore: Shadow looked guilty for hurting Tom earlier (And even has a flashback that compares himself to Sonic.) & then in their Super Fight, wastes time to taunt Sonic & then brings up Tom's name (Shadow's never wasted time to taunt his opponent during a fight in any previous fights with Sonic or anyone else.). I don't think Shadow was doing this just to be heartless, but was trying to encourage Sonic to be homicidal & do something that would potentially kill him. Doesn't mean Shadow knew what Sonic would do once he got him really angry, though. Hence, Shadow looking surprised/shocked. But ultimately, I think Shadow felt Morally Conflicted & Guilty for everything he did by that point & knew Gerald's Plan involved him getting killed anyway, so Shadow wasn't even fighting to live anymore & would rather waste his life to prove a point to Sonic (That Sonic can be vengeful like Shadow, too.) while also feeling like he deserved to die because he felt guilty, too. So I would also argue the Super Fight wasn't really a real fight to begin with since Shadow was only trying to get Sonic mad enough to want to kill him because Shadow didn't really care to live anymore.
4:31 I looked it up on Google and i found that everyone survived even doctor eggman and shadow. I dont know how but if Google says it then I belive that
Oh hell naw. I dont even agree with Tails on barely does anything. He came in clutch like 3 times in the movie, which is very sizeable for him. To be in the same tier as Tom? Nahhhhhh. Tom didnt do jackshit the whole movie except for Sonic emotional scenes
Um, she managed to incapacitate both Sonic and Robotnik's teams simultaneously only being stopped by a surprise attack from knuckles. She then fought against multiplied gravity and got the key before Eggman. Barely does anything would be more fair.
In my opinion they nerfed shadow During the fight when they left the moon Shadow could've Punched the emeralds out of sonic Again and end him but no they just let him accept not fighting back
fhe thing is super shadow was actaully much greater than super sonic in the movie, altho equal in power, shadow was far more experienced with chaos energy which gave him the ability to hold his super form much better than sonic, also, super shadow has chaos control and chaos spear while super sonic doesn't, we also saw super shadow giving super sonic a lot more blows than sonic did against him, like the first time shadow transformed he easily stopped sonic's punch with his hand, then he did a huge combo on him, he also knocked super sonic out first however, the reason why super sonic won is simply because shadow held back at the end, we can clearly see that shadow was intentionally trying to make sonic angry so sonic could feel what he felt (and questioning sonic about how he abandoned everyone), which in return, sonic was enraged and got a huge increase in power
@@a_silent_plume I'd add Shadow had a "Death Wish" by bringing up TOM & actually WANTED Sonic kill him. Shadow by this point feels like he has no reason to live after Maria's death, feels guilty for hurting Tom instead of Walters (Shadow literally had a Flashback paralleling himself with Sonic.), & is very Morally Conflicted, & Gerald's Plan, which Shadow knew about, already involved Shadow dying in it, too, so Shadow wasn't even fighting to survive by that point (Which is supported by Shadow looking happy when asking Sonic to kill him.).
This video doesn't explain it (It also puts Maria in the "Worthless" Category despite being the REASON for Shadow & Gerald being the way they are, for better or for worse. Maria should be in a category of her own, like "Catalyst Category."), but I don't think Shadow actually cared to beat Sonic in this fight: Before Shadow goes Super for the 1st time, Sonic said "I'm nothing like you," to which Shadow responds, "We shall see," suggesting Shadow was 'testing' Sonic to see if he would go down the same path of vengeance as he did, that being kill those who wronged you or your loved ones. Like before Sonic knocks Shadow out of his Super Form, Shadow purposely was getting Sonic really mad & by bringing up TOM, that tells me Shadow wanted Sonic to get so mad that he would potentially kill him somehow. Shadow looked guilty for attacking Tom, thinking he was Walters, just moments earlier, so it makes no sense for Shadow to suddenly act like that he was okay with that by bringing up Tom's name to purposely enrage Sonic instead of just 'continuing' to fight Sonic. So, arguably the Super Fight wasn't a real fight if Shadow wasn't even giving it his all (Shadow's very Morally Conflicted & Guilt-Ridden for his involvement in Gerald's Plan & even knows Gerald's Plan is gonna kill him, too. So, Shadow was already okay with being killed off by the time Super Sonic comes to fight him.).
Walters was not the bad guy. If you paid attention at the little details, Walters did everything he could to protect Shadow and Maria. He deflected the gun that was aiming for them but she sadly still died. If it wasn't for Walters, GUN would have killer Shadow. He was the one that convinced them he was too valuable to kill which is what saves him in the end.
I think Eggman deserves elite. Gerald needed him to break into GUN headquarters, to the point where Gerald was legitimately impressed with Eggman’s inventions. And without him, the Eclipse Cannon would’ve destroyed the earth in two different ways (the blast and the explosion).
If Dr. Stone is in the clutch category, Tom deserves to be there with him. Let me break it down: -He got Tails' USB device to sync with Gun's main computer after it failed the first time by blowing in it -Was able to talk the GUN lady out of holding the 2nd key by impersonating someone he's only met and seen twice. -His voice of reasoning from the beginning of the movie is what kept Sonic from killing Shadow -Lived from taking a 100% blow by Shadow Tom was clutch, c'mon now
I'd put Tom and Maria higher. Maria set up the whole plot of the movie and if not for her death, Shadow would've not been what he was in the movie. Tom set up the ending scenes of the movie. If not for being injured, Sonic wouldn't have gone extremely mad. Also, Commander Walters too. You sorta just ignored them because they weren't useful by themselves, but by being hurt or dying, they set up plots throughout the movie.
I feel like the directors didn’t know what to do with Maddie and Tom. I feel like the only purpose was planting that usb because the rest of the movie, I felt that every time they were on screen they were just saying corny jokes and shit and just being side characters
maria doesn't deserve worthless, she is literally the main reason why shadows is like that, and without her, the whole movie would just look like shadows being mad for no big important reasons
I wouldn’t really say Maria is “Worthless” Obviously, physically, she doesn’t do anything in the main story of the actual film’s plot, and perhaps that’s the criteria, but her role as a character is more of a personal influence for another character than an actual moving piece in the story. Perhaps she kinda belongs in her own category. Cause it’s not really fair to judge a character for not doing anything in the main story…when they exclusively exists in flashbacks, and CAN’T POSSIBLY do anything in the story to begin with.
fun fact : jim carey was retired but he read the script and thought it was so good that he decided to do the movie, but now that he’s dead in the movies he is not coming back as jim is retired
Funny thing is the moon being cut in half could cause some end of the world ahh scenarios anyways, so they didn't entirely save the planet they just made it slightly less horrible
Man, Maria in Worthless feels *really* off. I understand the logic that she's technically long dead by the time the movie happens, but it still feels deeply wrong, considering that without her none of this movie would have happened
Tails did come in clutch, he saved Sonic from getting incinerated by the forcefield, his planning and technology helped get the infiltrate GUN operation off the ground in the first place, he helped robotnik destroy Gerald after saving him, and helped redirect the eclipse canon, but other then Tails everyone else is pretty accurate, well except Maria but that’s mostly because of her importance to shadow more then anything else
Tails might gotten whooped by Shadow twice, but there was this scene where he flushes him and Agent Stone away and he makes the pun of it. (Payback Shadow)
You guys all dont understabd storytelling if you belive a character is useless if he or she doesnt do a cool fight. I sugest non of you watch movies again
He also flew up Robotnik from falling into space. Without Tails. Robotnik wont stabilise and steer the cannon off before it blew up Definitelt clutch moment
I still hope we get a good Knuckles vs Shadow fight scene in the next movie. Sonic can go toe to toe with Sonic. So he also should be able to land some hits on Shadow and not let it be a total beatdown.
Consider this: even though Maria is dead most of the film, she has the most impact on Shadow’s character. She is thus more impactful than the other characters in worthless tier. She could thus be “high” worthless or even low Barely Does Anything.
I’ve not watched any of the Sonic movies as of yet (even though my wife & daughter have). But I’ll get to it… maybe 😂. Jeremy, I enjoy these videos on how useless characters are. One of my faves was the Luigi one. This one ranks up there for me. A fun series. Have a great holiday season and thanks for the laughs too!
I haven't seen the movie yet, but I really want to so badly! Also, I don't know which Sonic the Hedgehog Movie 3 Characters are really useless, at least we know that a certain pink hedgehog in the credits is definitely not useless. At least we know Sonic and Shadow are in an Elite Tier.🤩🤔😏💕
Sonic was a complete loser throughout the entire film. He gets one good hit on Shadow and manages to change his mind. Might as well just make Shadow the main character if you're going to be so pitiful.
I'm pretty sure Shadow loses against Super Sonic because he mocked Sonic by bringing up Tom which enraged him to the point of a surprise punch which clearly did alot.
Gerald was the goat in the film. I didn't think I would like his character as much as I do. If only he didn't tell Ivo that he didn't care for him as family or at least anywhere near as much as Maria.
(1:33) "Sonic Somehow pulls through to defeat Shadow" I don't think Shadow actually wanted to win the fight. I think Shadow actually WANTED Sonic to kill him. Like in Shadow Generations, I think Shadow THREW THE FIGHT (For a different reason, though.): The fact Shadow brings up TOM, after looking guilty for attacking the wrong person (Walters) just moments earlier, tells me Shadow only did that to get Sonic MAD ENOUGH to WANT to KILL HIM. I think Shadow was feeling very morally conflicted & guilty for everything he did by that point & even WANTED Sonic to kill him because he probably thought he had nothing to "live for," anyway (Shadow knew Gerald's Plan meant he would die, anyway.). It's also the only time Shadow "wastes time" to taunt Sonic during a fight with him, too. Add to the fact Shadow actually looked "happy" asking Sonic to finish him makes me think Shadow didn't really care all that much to win the fight (Like Shadow never considers taking off his Limiters Rings if he really wanted to win.). Shadow, even at his most "Evil" in this Movie, I don't think he would be bringing up Tom just for the sake of "being heartless," unless there was an ULTERIOR MOTIVE behind it (Wanting to get Sonic to want to kill him because he wanted to die.). Remember before Shadow goes Super for the 1st time, Sonic said "I'm nothing like you," to which Shadow responds, "We shall see," suggesting Shadow was already 'testing' Sonic to see if he would go down the same path of vengeance as he did (Kill those who wronged you or your loved ones.).
Maria literally is the reason the movie happened. Without her shadow wouldn't have been the way we saw him in the movie and Tom also was important because when he got injured that made sonic go super saiyan and also he Tom infiltrated the gun headquarters with maddie
"Sonic *SOMEHOW* pulls through to defeat Shadow" I mean, could you even say Shadow was really trying to win the Super Fight in the 1st place? Sonic only "wins" in the Super Fight because Shadow literally CHOOSES to STOP fighting, makes Sonic mad (Especially, by bringing up Tom.), & lets his guard down which leaves him 'open' for a 'critical hit' from Sonic that takes Shadow out oh his Super Form (Like how Base Form Shadow punched the Super Form out of Sonic earlier.). Before the Super Fight happens, it's 'suggested' Shadow was more trying to prove an "idea" ("Revenge is everything in life."/"You're just as vengeful as I am.") to Sonic rather than to beat Sonic in a physical fight. (Sonic: I'm nothing like you. Shadow: *We shall see.*), while also Shadow probably feeling like he deserved death for everything he did, like attacking Tom (Innocent Person) earlier by mistaking him for Walters & having a Moral Conflict within himself for being involved in Gerald's Murder-Suicide Plan (Shadow knew he was already going to die before Super Sonic drags him down to Earth. So Shadow isn't exactly fighting to survive, either.). Add to this that Shadow seems WAY TOO HAPPY asking Super Sonic to punch his heart out, "Mortal Combat" Style.
Sonic didn't defeat Shadow in the film, it was Shadow who decided not to fight Sonic because he wasn't sure if what he was doing is right. He could've easily killed Sonic if he wanted to, but he doubted whether he was doing the right thing. He wasn't sure Maria would've wanted this. Not to mention Shadow just fooled Sonic like he did in the original game. Sonic was so obsessed with revenge that he forgot about the Eclipse canon.
"Sonic Somehow pulls through to defeat Shadow," this video doesn't bring up Shadow didn't even need to live to beat Sonic in the end, so Shadow didn't even have any REAL motivation to beat Sonic in the fight to begin with: Shadow's original scheme with Gerald would've killed everyone on Earth including Sonic (And Shadow & Gerald, & Shadow KNEW this.), if it wasn't for Shadow realizing destroying everything for Maria's death was wrong. Because only Shadow had enough power to stop the Eclipse Cannon in the end, not Sonic.
That’s true, I thought about putting that into consideration, same with Tom changing sonic to go on that rampage at the end, but I decided not to factor that in much since the character themselves isn’t doing it
The reason tails didn't save sonic flying in space is because tails is 8 years old and can't handle falling 300mph to earth.
That’s fair enough, but he runs fast enough to keep up with sonic, so his body should be used to moving at insanely fast speeds, idk
@@jeremymklinger Not when your traveling through the atmosphere. Going from a place of no oxygen to high oxygen in a madder of seconds 😭
@RyderSpielman True, but do they breathe oxygen? They’re all aliens breathing fine on the space colony, sonic was on the moon fighting 🤷♂️
@jeremymklinger It seems like the movie versions of these characters have weaker lungs compared to their mainline game counterparts (at least, from what I've seen) and also keep in mind, they may be alien like, but they don't actually come from space. Just different worlds. As for Sonic breathing on the moon, it's possible the emeralds were keeping him safe and had enough power to do so. Also, the Ark probably, most likely, has some form of air locks, as it would make Gerald look pretty stupid if he were to build the ark and then just forget that he needs to breathe
@@jkspeed3677I only saw them needing to breathe in space when Super Sonic breaks in and the door closes, and the part where Gerald was about to drop Eggman into the Earth, but my guess was his technology
I was glad the movie didn’t treated knuckles as a complete Joke and actually showed that he is the power and muscle of the team.
And he was pretty wise as well
The second movie already portrayed Knuckles well tbh
That’s why he’s 1 million percent muscle.
One of the things I feared most was them sidelining Knuckles to make Shadow look cooler, but fwiw, he was handled much better than I was expecting
He literally BROKE GLASS IN CASE OF EMERGENCY
@@Harryourbuddy facts.
I don't think Walters was *THAT* bad in this film. It was revealed in his younger years, he actually had a good relationship with Gerald, Shadow, and Maria before the incident. He tried to stop and talk the GUN soldiers out of casually shooting Maria, likely the cryofreeze solution was meant to help protect Shadow from becoming eliminated or be treated as a rogue by the outside world, he seemed to actually greatly sympathize with Shadow's situation way more than other GUN members when he was speaking to Sonic about him, and even admits GUN was in the wrong for what happened, all of this allowing Sonic the info he needed to sympathize with Shadow and possibly the reason Sonic hesitated to pierce his chest at the end of their fight. I'd bump him up one tier higher for that.
@@highlandave8507 that’s a pretty compelling case for him ngl
@@jeremymklinger Tails still many useful things, regardless if he screwed up momentously in the end. I think he should be higher
I get what you are saying, but Walters Didn’t sponsor Olive Garden in this movie sooooo…
@@bms2374 i guess that makes sense
Walter white
Bruh after listing all of Tails' achievements, "Barely does Anything" is too harsh 😂
I was kinda hard on him lol, but it didn’t feel right putting him in the tier above next to Eggman and knux 🤷♂️
@@jeremymklingerWhy tho? Just hacking G.U.N. and saving Sonic from certain death are pretty major contributions by themselves.
@@keedounanTails even gets rid of the crab and stone too
@@jeremymklinger He saved sonic and defeats agent stone. Tails and knuckles are definitely even in my opinion
There's also saving Eggman's life and helping redirect the eclipse cannon.
Dang, putting Maria on the bottom? I sure hope Shadow doesn't hear about this.
Shadow: what did you said
@@Denise-jm1cz*dashes agressively*
Sh## I’m dead
My Personal Rankings:
ELITE - Sonic, Shadow, Robotnik, Gerald
Comes in Clutch - Knuckles, Tails, Agent Stone
Barely Does Anything - Tom, Maddie, Maria, Commander Walters, Director Rockwell (You forgot about her)
WORTHLESS - Wade, Rachel, Randall
Solid 👍
I think Gerald needs to be above Elite dude would have accomplished his goal if it wasn't for Shadow betraying him in the end
@@Jman-lh3ll tbf shadow was a big part of the reason he was so close to accomplishing it in the first place
(Spoilery moments mentioned in case)
Maria being worthless even though her presence and death was the driving force for Gerald and Shadow to do everything that got them in elite sounds so sad.
She is the reason Shadow probably didn’t do something crazy 50 years ago. She taught him to have fun, to smile, and enjoy the little things and make him feel home in a world he just crashed into. Her conversation about the stars with Shadow is what helped made him connect with Sonic when they both were on the moon before making an alliance. Her destroyed items and room helped Sonic realize early on that Shadow had a connection with someone, and is hurting, so he kept trying for a peaceful tactic til Shadow hurt Tom, and in fact, when Shadow hurt To, and Sonic was panicking, he immediately thought of Maria and that made him realize the gravity of what he and Gerald were doing, and he questioned their choices to Gerald who was too far gone. Even Gerald’s betrayal to Eggman, saying “you are no Maria” like, oh my god deep cut.
Maria may not have been around and only in flashbacks, but her impact on the characters should give her more than the worthless tag, even if the other tiers titles don’t make sense.. cuz like in a way their memories of her do be “coming in clutch” haha.
This video seems to be missing KEY STORY DETAILS that even explains why the characters do the things they do & not being the "Most Badass Fighter," which is what Maria's whole shtick is, but a MOTIVATOR/MORAL COMPASS/CATALYST to both Shadow & Gerald & the events of the story is anything BUT "Worthless."
I think Characters like Maria should be in a category of their own like "Catalyst Category."
Man, putting Maria in 'worthless' tier. Shadow's going to break out of Elite tier, kill you, and carry her to Elite tier himself, literally stepping on everyone else in the process XD
Only disagree with tails, he did come in clutch at points. Although Maria is super important, not worthless the catalyst for the movie plot.
I also think sonic only won against Shadow at the end as Shadow felt bad about Tom and was doing his "I'm a weapon and terrible" thing.
I feel like Walters actually deserves barely does anything. Sure, he froze Shadow for 50 years, and died really early, but he trusted Sonic with the key, made a serious attempt to stop GUN from killing Maria and almost succeeds, and per GUN's orders at the time it was either kill Shadow or else, and Walters came up with the cryofeeeze solution as an alternative to keep Shadow alive. Barely Does Anything tier seems more appropriate to me.
Walters didn't even truly freeze Shadow if what Shadow said is true:
Shadow said, even when he was in "Stasis," that he was still CONSCIOUS-enough to still keep THINKING of the WORST MOMENT of his LIFE. FOR 50 YEARS (Unlike Movie Shadow, Game Shadow was truly frozen.). Walter's unintentionally, CAUSED so much MENTAL ANGUISH for Shadow that death might've been possibly a better fate. It's a MIRACLE Shadow didn't go INSANE from that alone.
I have to make an arguement for Maria. Maria shaped Shadow into who his is; a hedgehog with many layers. His character and contrast to Sonic is defined by how he deals with grief. He has a kind heart (thanks to Maria) but is consumed by the trauma of loosing her. Without Maria's presence, Shadow (and Gerald) wouldn't have a motivation, and the audience wouldn't have connected with Shadow or felt sympathetic towards him. Maria humanized Shadow.
She doesn't need a lot of screentime. The impact she had is present throughout the entire film. That's enough to justify putting her in the Elite tier. At the very least the Coming in Clutch.
7:25 Knuckles deserves respect for being so true about the promise with the fox and the blue blur
Facts, that’s why he got a great ranking 👍
5:52 Walters didn’t kill Maria he tried to save her in the flash back
He never said Walter’s killed Maria.
Gerald deserves elite for one line “in terms of grandchildren, you’re no Maria” Jim Carrey ATE with that line
The line was “Oh Ivo, you’re no Maria.”
Jim got to deliver that line *AND* react to that line in the same moment, lol.
@@Fang1st yeah bro was delivering that line to himself lol
My favorite part is “spoiler alert”
When “shadow said” oh your friend said well you betrayed them
“Sonic said” don’t say his name
“Shadow” Tom-
Sonic was like 😡👊
Shadow was almost dead I think
Omg l’m famous 96 likes
He really decided to rub salt in the wound by taunting/mocking him fr 😭😭
“What was his name? Tom?🙄🙄😒”
Shadow is amazing but did he have to do my boy tom like that 😭
@@Cuphead203 Shadow poked the bear lol
Sonic raged frfr
I'm pretty sure Shadow saying Tom's name wasn't for him being a jerk for the sake of being a jerk. I'm pretty sure Shadow actually had a "Death Wish" by that point. Remember Shadow actually looked guilty after hurting Tom because he mistook him for Walters.
Jim Carrey had to retire eventually and I'm glad they gave him the amazing send off. If he was younger then he would have stayed alive and came back for future roles.
Yeah, I think they handled it as well as they could
i think if sonic 4's script is even better he would tell himself "just one more film"
@@TheTrueBlueOne true that
Maddie’s look after Tom got hurt really set Sonic off tho.
Reminded me of Jada looking at Will when Chris rock made that joke lol
Sonic was really mad. Anyways, im confused about a part… um… why was tom pretending to be commander walters?
@@claralazi It was to trick Director Rockwell into giving him the second key
The way she looked at them before the ambulance door closed made me think she regretted something regarding the boys.
Which thankfully wasn’t the case but I was scared she was going to later say or do something that would mean Sonic, Tails, and Knuckled would be on their own. Idk why that was in my head considering she is a pretty sweet character to them
@@irkenpony17pretty sure that was meant to reassure them that it isn’t their fault and it will be ok
8:33 Make Sense Because in this Movie, Sonic And Shadow are the Stars of the movie. (Mostly shadow for most people)
2:57 OH MY GOODNESS
In tails defense if he didnt slow sonic down even a bit knuckles wouldn't have saved them
But TBH i wouldn't say sonic was stronger than shadow, sonic hit him off guard
BUT MAN THAT ACT 3 SCENE IN SPACE🔥🔥🔥🔥 live and learn playing+the power up scene+moon shot
BASE FORM Shadow knocked Sonic out of his Super Form, I think you can be knocked out of your Super Form if you're not 100% on your Guard & I think by bringing up TOM, Shadow was purposely trying to get Sonic to kill him somehow (I don't think Shadow wanted to beat Sonic in this fight.):
Like in Shadow Generations, I think Shadow THREW THE FIGHT (For a different reason, though.):
The fact Shadow brings up TOM, after looking guilty for attacking the wrong person (Walters) just moments earlier, tells me Shadow only did that to get Sonic MAD ENOUGH to WANT to KILL HIM. I think Shadow was feeling very morally conflicted & guilty for everything he did by that point & even WANTED Sonic to kill him because he probably thought he had nothing to "live for," anyway (Shadow knew Gerald's Plan meant he would die, anyway.). It's also the only time Shadow "wastes time" to taunt Sonic during a fight with him, too. Add to the fact Shadow actually looked "happy" asking Sonic to finish him makes me think Shadow didn't really care all that much to win the fight (Like Shadow never considers taking off his Limiters Rings if he really wanted to win.).
Shadow, even at his most "Evil" in this Movie, I don't think he would be bringing up Tom just for the sake of "being heartless," unless there was an ULTERIOR MOTIVE behind it (Wanting to get Sonic to want to kill him because he wanted to die.).
Remember before Shadow goes Super for the 1st time, Sonic said "I'm nothing like you," to which Shadow responds, "We shall see," suggesting Shadow was already 'testing' Sonic to see if he would go down the same path of vengeance as he did (Kill those who wronged you or your loved ones.).
Rachel should’ve been in her own tier at the top called “Gettin Ultra Nasty”
“Nasty Nasty!” 💀
Lol but that wasn't even rachel though🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I don't count as to Tom and Maddie barely does anything list especially when it's needed for them to infiltrate G.U.N's headquarters and prior the advice Tom give to Sonic later on in his fight with Shadow. Heck even in the 2nd movie that same advice he gives to Sonic help with his fight against Knuckles as well.
Also sidenote and while this has nothing to do with this movie, in Sonic 2 while the wedding scene was almost not necessarily it does help by providing Tails to get the X tornado plane use in Rachel's wedding to go after Sonic.
0:41 I think it’s because he’s in shock, he didn’t see anyone teleport before
5:53 crushing a kids sand castle bro is the true villain that kid probably took so long on it just for him to wreck it
Maria worthless? She's the entire reason for the movie. Lol.
Exactly!
But does she do anything?
@@Silver-Fan She shows Shadow true friendship and makes him feel welcomed in the world. Without her, Shadow would probably be pure evil.
@Tails-The-Smartguy sonic helps shadow in the end by reminding him that he must save humanity for maria so she does play a role
@@Silver-Fan she is the main character for shadow’s flashbacks
Knuks being the only one who can re-enter the atmosphere without passing out, and also being able to shatter through a force feild that would usually fry somebody into ashes, makes him very OP in his own respect
yes hacking gun is barely anything
This is the best video game movie I’ve ever seen next to the super Mario Bros movie
tys.
Shadow intentionally let Sonic win in the end to prove that his path of revenge is not wrong. Also Shadow didn't remove the limiter rings against Sonic to show his full power.
Chill bro we know you like shadow so much
@Hany_RL_YT Okay? I'm correct
@Hany_RL_YT Okay sonic fanboy with sonic pfp. You clearly didn't see the second credit scene in Sonic 3, Shadow's survive the eclipse cannon when he takes off the inhibitor rings. And Shadow definitely did let him win, do you seriously think him saying "do it, end me, get your revenge!" when he could have just teleport or removing the limiter rings as a last resort? 😂
@@lightchaos4204 i deleted 3 replies about what u said but i will just to give u this
1- if shadow is so powerful without the rings why doesnt he take them off
2- how is getting punched to the moom and all places on earth a plan from shadow
3- If you have an opinion why are you attacking any other opinion that doesnt statisfy you
4- Why do you care so much
5- no one is like the other 100%
6- whats wrong with having a sonic pfp? I can say the same about your description but i wont bec u have an opinion
@@Hany_RL_YT I also agree Shadow wanted to lose/die. And are you talking about the Punch that Knocks Shadow out of his Super Form? Shadow looked surprised/shocked, to me. And Shadow looks happy asking Sonic to kill him, too, so I think, whether or not Shadow was scared of actually dying, Shadow 'mainly' wanted Sonic to kill him.
Note: Base Form Shadow is able to knock Sonic out of his Super Form & then Super Sonic knocks Shadow out of his Super Form. I think it's a matter of luck/catching the other Super Being Off Guard & that Shadow wasn't keeping his guard up (Because I don't think Shadow cared about keeping his guard up because he didn't really care to win in this fight.), which allowed Sonic to catch Shadow off guard & knock Shadow out of his Super Form.
1. The Movie never even brings up Shadow's Limiter Rings & why they exist, so we can't say for now, either way. But Shadow is able to sustain a Laser from the Eclipse Cannon without getting knocked out like Sonic & seems okay gathering his missing Rings at the end. And again we don't know if Shadow needs his Rings to live or it's just to help him to not be a danger to everyone else or both. I'm going to assume, Shadow can function for a long enough time without them since we've yet to see him dying from missing his Rings in the Movies so far.
And Shadow does take 2 Limiters Off once he realizes what's worth fighting for & starts taking the fight 100% seriously. 2 things you can't really say for Shadow during his Super Fight with Sonic (When Shadow's Super for the 1st time. Not for the 2nd time.) for my reasoning below.
2. Before Shadow goes Super for the 1st time, Sonic says, "I'm nothing like you, to which Shadow says, "We shall see." This sounds likes Shadows not really wanting to beat Sonic in a fight so much but to see if Sonic will go down the same path of vengeance like his did.
The Super Fight is basically a stalemate but it only changes once Shadow basically stops fighting anymore:
Shadow looked guilty for hurting Tom earlier (And even has a flashback that compares himself to Sonic.) & then in their Super Fight, wastes time to taunt Sonic & then brings up Tom's name (Shadow's never wasted time to taunt his opponent during a fight in any previous fights with Sonic or anyone else.). I don't think Shadow was doing this just to be heartless, but was trying to encourage Sonic to be homicidal & do something that would potentially kill him. Doesn't mean Shadow knew what Sonic would do once he got him really angry, though. Hence, Shadow looking surprised/shocked.
But ultimately, I think Shadow felt Morally Conflicted & Guilty for everything he did by that point & knew Gerald's Plan involved him getting killed anyway, so Shadow wasn't even fighting to live anymore & would rather waste his life to prove a point to Sonic (That Sonic can be vengeful like Shadow, too.) while also feeling like he deserved to die because he felt guilty, too.
So I would also argue the Super Fight wasn't really a real fight to begin with since Shadow was only trying to get Sonic mad enough to want to kill him because Shadow didn't really care to live anymore.
2:57 Why did you put that there?
fr he curse us with a gay demon bruh
4:31 I looked it up on Google and i found that everyone survived even doctor eggman and shadow. I dont know how but if Google says it then I belive that
Way to spoil sonic 4
@@jasonravichandran266 then why'd you comment? We already know that sonic 4 is happening
We all knew shadow was still alive it showed it at the end credits after it showed Amy and metal
Oh hell naw.
I dont even agree with Tails on barely does anything.
He came in clutch like 3 times in the movie, which is very sizeable for him.
To be in the same tier as Tom? Nahhhhhh.
Tom didnt do jackshit the whole movie except for Sonic emotional scenes
Bro idk why. But the funniest moment for me was when eggman jumps on “Santa” 😂
No way bro placed Maria in worthless
He’s put in the same spot as *THE FLAMES OF THE DISASTER* 😭💀
You sonic related content is ELITE!!
Thank you so much!
@@jeremymklinger You're welcome! Your Sonic content is on another level-like a Chaos Emerald of creativity! 💎💙
I’m surprised you didn’t mention Rockwell. I’d put her in worthless. You?
Honestly forgot about her lol, probably a worthless though, since she didn’t end up getting the key and wasn’t seen much beyond that
Um, she managed to incapacitate both Sonic and Robotnik's teams simultaneously only being stopped by a surprise attack from knuckles. She then fought against multiplied gravity and got the key before Eggman. Barely does anything would be more fair.
In my opinion they nerfed shadow During the fight when they left the moon Shadow could've Punched the emeralds out of sonic Again and end him but no they just let him accept not fighting back
fhe thing is super shadow was actaully much greater than super sonic in the movie, altho equal in power, shadow was far more experienced with chaos energy which gave him the ability to hold his super form much better than sonic, also, super shadow has chaos control and chaos spear while super sonic doesn't, we also saw super shadow giving super sonic a lot more blows than sonic did against him, like the first time shadow transformed he easily stopped sonic's punch with his hand, then he did a huge combo on him, he also knocked super sonic out first
however, the reason why super sonic won is simply because shadow held back at the end, we can clearly see that shadow was intentionally trying to make sonic angry so sonic could feel what he felt (and questioning sonic about how he abandoned everyone), which in return, sonic was enraged and got a huge increase in power
@@a_silent_plume I'd add Shadow had a "Death Wish" by bringing up TOM & actually WANTED Sonic kill him.
Shadow by this point feels like he has no reason to live after Maria's death, feels guilty for hurting Tom instead of Walters (Shadow literally had a Flashback paralleling himself with Sonic.), & is very Morally Conflicted, & Gerald's Plan, which Shadow knew about, already involved Shadow dying in it, too, so Shadow wasn't even fighting to survive by that point (Which is supported by Shadow looking happy when asking Sonic to kill him.).
Idk why shadow lost to somic in the end, cuz my noy shadow literally PUNCHED super sonic so hard(in base form) the emeralds left his body
This video doesn't explain it (It also puts Maria in the "Worthless" Category despite being the REASON for Shadow & Gerald being the way they are, for better or for worse. Maria should be in a category of her own, like "Catalyst Category."), but I don't think Shadow actually cared to beat Sonic in this fight:
Before Shadow goes Super for the 1st time, Sonic said "I'm nothing like you," to which Shadow responds, "We shall see," suggesting Shadow was 'testing' Sonic to see if he would go down the same path of vengeance as he did, that being kill those who wronged you or your loved ones.
Like before Sonic knocks Shadow out of his Super Form, Shadow purposely was getting Sonic really mad & by bringing up TOM, that tells me Shadow wanted Sonic to get so mad that he would potentially kill him somehow. Shadow looked guilty for attacking Tom, thinking he was Walters, just moments earlier, so it makes no sense for Shadow to suddenly act like that he was okay with that by bringing up Tom's name to purposely enrage Sonic instead of just 'continuing' to fight Sonic.
So, arguably the Super Fight wasn't a real fight if Shadow wasn't even giving it his all (Shadow's very Morally Conflicted & Guilt-Ridden for his involvement in Gerald's Plan & even knows Gerald's Plan is gonna kill him, too. So, Shadow was already okay with being killed off by the time Super Sonic comes to fight him.).
Walters was not the bad guy. If you paid attention at the little details, Walters did everything he could to protect Shadow and Maria. He deflected the gun that was aiming for them but she sadly still died.
If it wasn't for Walters, GUN would have killer Shadow. He was the one that convinced them he was too valuable to kill which is what saves him in the end.
I think Eggman deserves elite.
Gerald needed him to break into GUN headquarters, to the point where Gerald was legitimately impressed with Eggman’s inventions.
And without him, the Eclipse Cannon would’ve destroyed the earth in two different ways (the blast and the explosion).
If Dr. Stone is in the clutch category, Tom deserves to be there with him.
Let me break it down:
-He got Tails' USB device to sync with Gun's main computer after it failed the first time by blowing in it
-Was able to talk the GUN lady out of holding the 2nd key by impersonating someone he's only met and seen twice.
-His voice of reasoning from the beginning of the movie is what kept Sonic from killing Shadow
-Lived from taking a 100% blow by Shadow
Tom was clutch, c'mon now
Shadow my GOAT, where he should be.
Tails. I'd put in comes in clutch.
For some of the others reasons listed in the comments
I'd put Tom and Maria higher. Maria set up the whole plot of the movie and if not for her death, Shadow would've not been what he was in the movie. Tom set up the ending scenes of the movie. If not for being injured, Sonic wouldn't have gone extremely mad. Also, Commander Walters too. You sorta just ignored them because they weren't useful by themselves, but by being hurt or dying, they set up plots throughout the movie.
just remember, dr eggman has survived the stupidly obvious life ending explosions so he always comes back
I feel like the directors didn’t know what to do with Maddie and Tom. I feel like the only purpose was planting that usb because the rest of the movie, I felt that every time they were on screen they were just saying corny jokes and shit and just being side characters
Sich is ther purpose ther thervto leaviate the tension.
maria doesn't deserve worthless, she is literally the main reason why shadows is like that, and without her, the whole movie would just look like shadows being mad for no big important reasons
Where are metal and amy (i know they are only in the credit scene but still where are they?)
I wouldn’t really say Maria is “Worthless”
Obviously, physically, she doesn’t do anything in the main story of the actual film’s plot, and perhaps that’s the criteria, but her role as a character is more of a personal influence for another character than an actual moving piece in the story.
Perhaps she kinda belongs in her own category. Cause it’s not really fair to judge a character for not doing anything in the main story…when they exclusively exists in flashbacks, and CAN’T POSSIBLY do anything in the story to begin with.
fun fact : jim carey was retired but he read the script and thought it was so good that he decided to do the movie, but now that he’s dead in the movies he is not coming back as jim is retired
Funny thing is the moon being cut in half could cause some end of the world ahh scenarios anyways, so they didn't entirely save the planet they just made it slightly less horrible
Man, Maria in Worthless feels *really* off. I understand the logic that she's technically long dead by the time the movie happens, but it still feels deeply wrong, considering that without her none of this movie would have happened
Tails did come in clutch, he saved Sonic from getting incinerated by the forcefield, his planning and technology helped get the infiltrate GUN operation off the ground in the first place, he helped robotnik destroy Gerald after saving him, and helped redirect the eclipse canon, but other then Tails everyone else is pretty accurate, well except Maria but that’s mostly because of her importance to shadow more then anything else
I find it weird that you didn’t mention Gerald died, cuz he disappeared when he got electrocuted
Ranking How Useless Daisy In Every Mario Game Please?
The movie WAS FIREEEEE
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Tails might gotten whooped by Shadow twice, but there was this scene where he flushes him and Agent Stone away and he makes the pun of it. (Payback Shadow)
doubt that affected shadow much lol. He can teleport
Also knuckles, trusting Wade with the master emerald is kind of smart because no one would suspect Wade to have it
He said that Jim Carry carried the sonic movies lol
If it wasn't for maria, shadow would be a full-on villain she's at least gotta go in, comes in clutch
You guys all dont understabd storytelling if you belive a character is useless if he or she doesnt do a cool fight. I sugest non of you watch movies again
tails deserves the "comes in clutch" rank he saved sonic from getting killed by a laser shield
He also flew up Robotnik from falling into space.
Without Tails. Robotnik wont stabilise and steer the cannon off before it blew up
Definitelt clutch moment
yeah💀💀
I still hope we get a good Knuckles vs Shadow fight scene in the next movie. Sonic can go toe to toe with Sonic. So he also should be able to land some hits on Shadow and not let it be a total beatdown.
Tails come in clutch
Yes bro he was trying to keep the team together when Sonic and knuckles were about to fight
@B-ballpreachers2 in the end knuckles stopped himself because he is too loyal to attack sonic since he did help him before
Favorite film of 2024 indeed.
This is a good ranking
That goodbye to stone also felt like saying goodbye to everyone with it being his final movie
Well you never know with Jim especially since they cut out something that was in the storyboard with time travel so who knows if he’s really gone
@ACinemafanatic He can't keep doing more films when he is supposed to be retired. We have got metal sonic as the villian now no need for eggman
Consider this: even though Maria is dead most of the film, she has the most impact on Shadow’s character. She is thus more impactful than the other characters in worthless tier. She could thus be “high” worthless or even low Barely Does Anything.
Sonic and shadow talking on the moon made me cry 😭
WAIT THERE WAS A POST POST CREDIT SCENE NOOOO
Were you living under a rock
2 of them btw
After amy there was more😭😭❓❓
@@juiceykiidzyt9950post POST credit scene, incase you guys missed it. SPOILER ⚠️
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@ I DIDNT SEE I LEFT AFTER AMY SHOWED UP
I’ve not watched any of the Sonic movies as of yet (even though my wife & daughter have). But I’ll get to it… maybe 😂.
Jeremy, I enjoy these videos on how useless characters are. One of my faves was the Luigi one. This one ranks up there for me. A fun series. Have a great holiday season and thanks for the laughs too!
I haven't seen the movie yet, but I really want to so badly! Also, I don't know which Sonic the Hedgehog Movie 3 Characters are really useless, at least we know that a certain pink hedgehog in the credits is definitely not useless. At least we know Sonic and Shadow are in an Elite Tier.🤩🤔😏💕
Sonic and Shadow are both Elite
This whole movie is CINEMA
But I'm here to support this banger channel
Appreciate you as always!
Sonic was a complete loser throughout the entire film. He gets one good hit on Shadow and manages to change his mind. Might as well just make Shadow the main character if you're going to be so pitiful.
7:50 this line always give me chills
I'm pretty sure Shadow loses against Super Sonic because he mocked Sonic by bringing up Tom which enraged him to the point of a surprise punch which clearly did alot.
Gerald was the goat in the film. I didn't think I would like his character as much as I do. If only he didn't tell Ivo that he didn't care for him as family or at least anywhere near as much as Maria.
2:53 I love how you added this sound effect
(1:33) "Sonic Somehow pulls through to defeat Shadow"
I don't think Shadow actually wanted to win the fight. I think Shadow actually WANTED Sonic to kill him. Like in Shadow Generations, I think Shadow THREW THE FIGHT (For a different reason, though.):
The fact Shadow brings up TOM, after looking guilty for attacking the wrong person (Walters) just moments earlier, tells me Shadow only did that to get Sonic MAD ENOUGH to WANT to KILL HIM. I think Shadow was feeling very morally conflicted & guilty for everything he did by that point & even WANTED Sonic to kill him because he probably thought he had nothing to "live for," anyway (Shadow knew Gerald's Plan meant he would die, anyway.). It's also the only time Shadow "wastes time" to taunt Sonic during a fight with him, too. Add to the fact Shadow actually looked "happy" asking Sonic to finish him makes me think Shadow didn't really care all that much to win the fight (Like Shadow never considers taking off his Limiters Rings if he really wanted to win.).
Shadow, even at his most "Evil" in this Movie, I don't think he would be bringing up Tom just for the sake of "being heartless," unless there was an ULTERIOR MOTIVE behind it (Wanting to get Sonic to want to kill him because he wanted to die.).
Remember before Shadow goes Super for the 1st time, Sonic said "I'm nothing like you," to which Shadow responds, "We shall see," suggesting Shadow was already 'testing' Sonic to see if he would go down the same path of vengeance as he did (Kill those who wronged you or your loved ones.).
Maria literally is the reason the movie happened. Without her shadow wouldn't have been the way we saw him in the movie and Tom also was important because when he got injured that made sonic go super saiyan and also he Tom infiltrated the gun headquarters with maddie
Maria worthless? Bro she builds the whole good side of shadow she’s not worthless soooooo?
Knuckles could have put up a good fight in the second encounter he had with Shadow but it was just a Boo and a scream.
Damn i felt bad for Agent Stone at the end 😕
Felt bad for him in the middle he was the only one who loved eggman and got dumped by him😢
2:57 WTF 💀
“Order your bleach bottle here” bouta go crazy🗣️🔥
I bet shadow used chaos control to teleport Dr. eggman to safety
Sonic wolud DIE if it wasn’t for tails😭did you watch the movie
All jokes aside do yall remember when the trailer for sonic 1 and how he looks liked 😂
"Sonic *SOMEHOW* pulls through to defeat Shadow"
I mean, could you even say Shadow was really trying to win the Super Fight in the 1st place? Sonic only "wins" in the Super Fight because Shadow literally CHOOSES to STOP fighting, makes Sonic mad (Especially, by bringing up Tom.), & lets his guard down which leaves him 'open' for a 'critical hit' from Sonic that takes Shadow out oh his Super Form (Like how Base Form Shadow punched the Super Form out of Sonic earlier.).
Before the Super Fight happens, it's 'suggested' Shadow was more trying to prove an "idea" ("Revenge is everything in life."/"You're just as vengeful as I am.") to Sonic rather than to beat Sonic in a physical fight. (Sonic: I'm nothing like you. Shadow: *We shall see.*), while also Shadow probably feeling like he deserved death for everything he did, like attacking Tom (Innocent Person) earlier by mistaking him for Walters & having a Moral Conflict within himself for being involved in Gerald's Murder-Suicide Plan (Shadow knew he was already going to die before Super Sonic drags him down to Earth. So Shadow isn't exactly fighting to survive, either.). Add to this that Shadow seems WAY TOO HAPPY asking Super Sonic to punch his heart out, "Mortal Combat" Style.
Since you’re not doing a Mario ranking I will do it next week
Bro I didn't even watch the movie and I already know that they turned super from the video
I feel like maria and tom deserve a higher tier in terms of how they affected the characters
Sonic didn't defeat Shadow in the film, it was Shadow who decided not to fight Sonic because he wasn't sure if what he was doing is right. He could've easily killed Sonic if he wanted to, but he doubted whether he was doing the right thing. He wasn't sure Maria would've wanted this.
Not to mention Shadow just fooled Sonic like he did in the original game. Sonic was so obsessed with revenge that he forgot about the Eclipse canon.
Average Shadow Glazer:
"Sonic Somehow pulls through to defeat Shadow," this video doesn't bring up Shadow didn't even need to live to beat Sonic in the end, so Shadow didn't even have any REAL motivation to beat Sonic in the fight to begin with:
Shadow's original scheme with Gerald would've killed everyone on Earth including Sonic (And Shadow & Gerald, & Shadow KNEW this.), if it wasn't for Shadow realizing destroying everything for Maria's death was wrong. Because only Shadow had enough power to stop the Eclipse Cannon in the end, not Sonic.
I love the part where shadow scares knuckles,tails and agent stone and when he watch some romance Italian show with agent stone
how could you,i loved maria but i understand,but she was useful bc didnt she change shadow.
That’s true, I thought about putting that into consideration, same with Tom changing sonic to go on that rampage at the end, but I decided not to factor that in much since the character themselves isn’t doing it
If we're including Shadow's post credit scene I feel like Amy and Metal Sonic could have maybe been included in this as well.
Were did you got the scene that show us Wade training?
(I don't speak too much english, so sorry if I made a mistake)
The Wade & Knuckles (pun intended) show
is it strange that knuckles the guy on the team who's know for fight really didn't have a fight at all in this movie
I watched sonic 3 yesterday in the cinemas and it was a solid 9/10. The final fight between sonic and shadow is epic
wait there was a post POST credit scene?
0:03 2ND favorite, Transformers One is better imo
I just watched sonic 3 so now i can finally watch this video