Toyota is far better then german machine, better motorisation,i had both Yaris and a golf,and beliveme,toyota all day long,even if the germans made nice cars,the engine quality is not like the ones we had before,on the other side, Toyota is doing a good job
I’ve got a GR and my son has a golf 7.5 he drove my GR and was blown away at the grip the feel and and speed, what people don’t understand is usability the GR usability in all weathers and conditions is astounding, a golf R would struggle to keep up, it’s not about drag races or top speeds anymore it’s about driving the thing!
@@ericmarshall9262 never heard that from a toyota ownerbefore'' hahaha it seems that u hate it to much??? the build quality of toyota is really good, I dont think that upgrade puts a lot of stress on the engine by the sound of it, they squeeze more power and but still on a safe side. All I can say is drive one, it might surprise u...ps golf owner here
I can see why you (all) like the Yaris but people buy Golf R's because they want/need a fun daily car with rear doors and a boot. In which case the Yaris is not even an option, so probably not much cross-shopping between these two
I think the video is just demonstrating the difference between a lightly warmed over boring car, and a truly exciting, fun, homologation special. It is a shame that cars like the Golf have failed to acheive a concept that was pretty much already nailed 20 years ago by things like Evos and WRXs.
I see the Golf R as a compromised hot hatch because it has tried to offer all of what you mentioned whereas the GRY has no compromises and it's up to the owner to make the compromises to make it work as a daily. I'm happy with the sacrifices I have to make in order to enjoy the GRY daily.
Also bear in mind that most people who comment on here have never driven either car. On Dan’s remit I have no doubt, as a drivers car, the GR seems universally the best (I haven’t driven one) - manual gearbox, purpose built...but as a daily the Golf R all day long (which I do own) - more space, plenty fun for a commute, comfortable, and launch control never gets old 🤣
Golf R is not a fun daily car though, no car can be fun and daily.... it's an oxymoron. You are arguing for a jack of all trades, and that is why people still buy an MX5 to get away from that A to B side....
@@zakelwe What we’re saying here is living with the compromises... the GR is too small for my needs....would love a go in one for sure... An MX5 is an even greater compromise....It’s probably why James on TH owns an S4 and an MX5 I guess. But people who say a Golf R isn’t a fun daily 🥱 have probably never driven one 😒
He's absolutely right. The Yaris is no fun driven slowly. When I am having fun on public roads I usually find myself driving in the middle of the night, no traffic, way above the speed limit on curvy country roads here in germany, or drifting up serpentines. It is just too grippy and stable. Driving fast on the Autobahn is a bit of fun, but it isn't where this car really shines.
Big fan of the Golf, but this Yaris is something special. It stands out and we likely won’t be getting one like this again. I guess it depends on what you’re after, but I’d love both. Yaris will also be worth more down the line and it’s kinda like the 911 Gt3 of the Toyota lineup. I’d take one over a supra.
@@1anre they’re both homologation cars, they are both more special than anything else in the current lineup. The gt3 has one hell of an engine and one you’re not going to find anywhere else, save for the gt4rs, also a homologation car. The Yaris has an awesome inline 3 that you also won’t find in any other cars. They both aren’t made for straight line speed, but do well in that regard. More importantly, they offer feedback and communication to the driver that most other cars don’t. These are special cars
@@1anre do you mean in the case of homologation cars? Or do you mean similar cars in the sense that they give the driver feedback and communication? That’s mainly what I was referring to. The Yargis GR some other cars like the 400z and older cars like the E92 M3 give you that feedback and connection that most other new cars done give you. It makes you feel connected to the car like you’re the one making the power and moving the car. That connection makes you feel like you’re the one in control and you have a much better time than a car that’s numb like many new BMW’s.
@@Gamgam4843n Strange when I sat in one (I'm a 6ft 1 lanky stickman) I fitted perfectly only issue I had (and this is splitting hairs) was the seat a little bit high but even then I still fitted in perfectly fine.
GR Yaris has a manual gearbox, that makes it a winner in this comparison from the point of view of being a driver's car. I considered the GR, but bought a Golf R manual mk7.5 instead as I need the space for my daughter and my dog.
that seems the other way round, in uk and germany people buy Golf Rs like hotcakes as they are very cheap to lease, but even the list price isnt much higher, the Yaris is sold out and can only be bought for about 10k more than the list price
@@tedt7991 yaris too expensive here like all cars. Niche market here for the R now since vrt changes but has more of a chance the the GR due to its practically
@@1anre More like "supprised". I had to get used to the response and power. My "quickest" car I drove was my Corolla Touring Sport GR 2.0l. It was, due to the EV support, quite snappy. But very linear and not aggressive. The very quick response of the turbo of the Yaris is another story. I had the Yaris for 1 day and after 1h or so I drove 160 MPH on the very rainy Autobahn. The stiff chasis, AWD etc makes the car extremly controllable and boosts your confidance. I drove around 10min on the Autobahn and entered back roads to enjoy the movability of the car. Unbelievable expierence. When my job goal is at it's peek, I will buy my a Lexus GS450h or the Yaris for sure. The Yaris CAN be a daily. The problem is, that you don't want to drive slowly or "normal" with the Yaris. The Lexus on the other hand is luxurious can more for the soul If you know what I mean.
@@VampirusX thanks for breaking it down. For a first brand new car; the M2, MkV Supra, Yaris GR are all topping my list, but still trying to think of if these are the best I can get for $40K max
@@1anre Get the Yaris! The Supra is a BMW as the M2 is ... and both are more expensive than the Yaris (even with the performance pack). You buy a serious car with the Toyota reliability. Or wait for the new 2.4l GR86. Not the same performance ... but a better transmission than the Yaris and a sports car (beautiful handling, shifting etc) instead of a track car like the Yaris. The Yaris is a street warrior you will never get with a Supra or M2 (IMO)
Golf R for me, I know the GR Yaris is not really a Yaris, but still...also couldn’t fit the kids in the back as easily as the R, so overall just feel the R is the more complete package...courses for horses
Plus you can take it to a proper Stage 1 remap (cost about £1000) and it is pushing 400BHP. I've seen a video somewhere, that Golf was 398BHP on the roller. 🙂
Another superb video Dan, thanks so much. Would be interested in comparison of the Yaris against your Alpine A110? Very different cars for sure, Alpine only a bit more expensive, but which is more fun and engaging?
The GR Yaris sounds amazing! That's a ton of HP per cylinder @ 100 hp per cylinder! Too bad it's not coming to America but apparently some form of Gazoo racing Corolla will debut in the US.
@@johnnyng8527 Exactly, and that’s why these electric cars are so unappealing at the moment. They may be quick but I doubt there driving dynamics is anywhere near ICE sports cars
Exactly, ever a stage 1 would really waken up the R. Cost is the R biggest weakness, €70k here in Ireland, madness. So here, it would be Clubsport or GR Yaris
Depends on the road and driver. Most people buying a Yaris GR will be younger and prepared to spank it, the older Porsche blue rinse brigade less so. When you get older you get more money, but then slow down driving wise. I know from experience.
Its not, the guy who posted the video is on crack, a golf R is 1.3 sec faster then the 5.3 second yaris, buddy is just blowing smoke out his ass and the noncar guys are eating it up
I'm in a position that I can have the GR Yaris as a daily driver for free, however I drove it one weekend and realized that I must have nine lives on my driving license for it to work.
Fair review. I think it’s agreed the Yaris is more fun but that the Golf has more all-round ability. More practical and when you’re not in the mood, it’ll be a more refined comfortable car.
@@lucienpetrus9432 no one is jealous on a yaris... or on a golf for that matter unless the yaris is your second car for track days and for the price you can get a used exige which actually creates jealous and has a lot more road presence not to mention is a fun car to drive
Both cracking cars but the yaris is only applicable to people with no friends or family or as a second car for the lucky few. All I know is my R with PP is coming in July 😎
The YARIS GR is logical to feel faster as it is lighter but probably it should be less conformable than the GOLF 8 R. I would like to see a real comparison between these two vehicles on track to observe which one is actually better.
Ikr, my Mazda 2 is turning 10 this year and probably only has around 2 years left, and I am actually panicking over what car I’m going to get next. Everything is big and stupid
How does the suspension on the Litchfield compared to the Ford Focus RS? I had an RS for 8 months and had to get rid of it because the suspension was way too firm.
@@dougmaverick3287 Hang on, i just realised you asked what lichfield was like. I haven't driven that. I thought you were asking about normal circuit pack suspension so forget what i said. Sorry.
Not a fair comparison but probably the closest there is. Yaris gr is a homologation car. The only one in the market. It was made for wrc and then for the public. It's a beast and might just be the last of its kind.
In my opinion.. A hot hatch is a 3 door, small and fast car that gives you a smile from ear to ear every time you drive it.. That's a hot hatch! I don't like how the yaris looks but it is a hot hatch and still better looking(aggressive) then the golf, the golf is just a boring family car. And the money is ridiculously high for a car like this.. I'd pick the yaris over the golf anytime.
@@Dave-gl6jb the most dull choice, RS3 & A45S are better and more exciting. Plus at the price point of 44k you can buy plenty of better dailys than a Golf 👍
@@relentlesspursuit6894 not sure where you live but RS3 or A45s are well over 100k euros base model here whilst near full spec R 70k, big price gap. Also not sure where you are getting your information. Have you test driven both yet? I sadly haven't due to restrictions around here. Really it comes down to comparing apples to oranges. I personally bought the R (arrives first week July). I need a car that is a hot hatchback and not a super mini. Have family and gear to shift around. Also I'm never going near a manual again. These are just person preferences/practicalities. Sure they are both cracking cars in their own areas
why would you want lower mounted seats in the Yaris? Is visibility not cool? Better to have the beltline and dash at eye level to look cool and lower your center of gravity?
I don't know, I think the Yaris is more of a 'special' car that older folk can get away with owning, because of what it is. I'm in my 40's and kick about in an Audi A8 and I want one! I think the Golf R has the boy racer vibe more than the GR Yaris.
Does the corbeau seat keeps the heating option and are they still easily ajustable? (Do you need some tools to set it?) After that video I am really hesitating to take just the seats for my yaris😬
Pretty sure it's legal in the UK if the seatbelts still work with the seat, you just take the risk that if you crash the airbags won't be there. Also I think Corbeau makes a heated version.
In my eyes, GR has only two problems. Too much tire noise with PS 4s tires and needs a proper lower reclinging seat. Other than that it is much better daily than Golf R. New Golf infotainment is worse than the hideous Toyota systems. At least Toyota system is easy to use. Golf materials are also not what they used to be.
@@KarlkEst You can not get the toyota with beter sound/infotainmentsystem and trackpack. The ride comfort, the back seats.... trunk space... And me i prefer a DSG in my DD over a manual. Ye i also hate the touch button and so in the mk8 but that i can live with, not be able to ride 4 adult in it is a deal braker.
Great job on this Dan as always! Driving bits aside, the VW Golf R is off my list no matter what as the interior and its awful tech interface has me running to the Yaris GR. I'd much rather have a down spec interior that functions.
So true on the tech interface on the golf. I've heard even VW dealers aren't happy with it. My colleagues daughter bought a new golf, drives them mad trying to work it out.
One of the best cars Toyota has made oh and the 10 year long LFA project that didn’t sell too well due to price! They tried with the Lexus RCFs etc but failed however, I’ll have the all round, very refined R thanks.
@@relentlesspursuit6894 Depends on who your trying to hide it from I guess... - Insurance company - find an insurer who doesn't mind or you won't be paid out in an accident, cos you won't be able to 'remove' the box. - Car maker - You mod it then you take the risk of failures because vehicles nowadays have performance logs up to 30 days long. If your car is only meant to boost at 0.5bar max and your car has been boosting at 1.1bar in the last 30 days, you'd be caught out. *_Try being as honest with others as you would want them to be with you_*
@@YusufGinnah well said. Wish more people would do their due diligence and accept the risks and responsibility instead of trying to sneak around. If your remap blows the turbo, own up to it. If you remap and your water pump dies odds are the manufacturer will honor their drivetrain warranty. That's been my experience.
Lightness is very important, on paper the Golf has a bit more power but the litchfield Yaris has a superior power to weight ratio of 0.2327hp/kg vs the Golf 0.2035hp/kg. For comparison a 911 Carrera S has power to weight ratio of 0.2786hp/kg which is still far superior than the Yaris but the Yaris does have similar power to weight ratio as a 718 cayman S which has a power to weight ratio of 0.2364hp/kg
The supra is OK... tho combining the reliability of Toyota with the BMW's lack of reliability was just DUMB. The should have learned from the GT86 head gasket desaster... the Supra is ugly too... it has NOTHING to do with the original.
I have had VW Golf's since 1990. i just sold my golf R.stage 2 i don't think that yaris would have got anywhere near it. but i understand.the yaris looks fun. standard form it would probably not be so cut and dry. a bit silly.i would not under any circumstances be throwing 40.000 on a yaris. but i hate this new golf R it looks like its had too many pies. so my answer i purchased one of the last GTI TCR's and it feels special!,
@@vwgti3414 although you realise they are 33k new - ofcourse if you want a used on itl cost you 36k+, they go up in value unlike a Golf which gets discounted even from new
Idk if I am missing something but the Golf looks more playful, so it’s weird the Yaris won this comparison on fun despite Dan mentioning multiple times it’s not playful enough
Yaris had an extra tuning package as well.......seems a bit unfair to judge against a stock R. Tune the r and we have a different discussion..I take the r all day.
@@ajh5552 these are options from the factory + you don't get a power increase with the performance pack On the other hand, the Yaris literally got its warrenty voided
Not present here, but they can also do a Milltek resonated and non resonated systems with the map to take account of them. I'll be running mine stock for a while before heading down to Gloucestershire.
@@TassieLorenzo thats where you got it wrong, less than 1 percent of the buyers will be taking them to the circuit, but l can tell you all of them will drag race and some roll race, in public and private places
@@mthunzidube1423 i had 2 STIs, m140i and Golf 6 R, and i never drag raced my cars cuz i am adult, so no majority of owners of these kind of cars dont do drag races
@@misa664 why get those performance versions if you not going to use what they were meant for, its like a person that buys a Bugatti but never takes it for drag event, why not get a comfortline then or GTI instead of an R and a 120i because clearly you don't know what the high end specs were meant for
So, I have a GTI and want a second car as the fun car. Would the GR Yaris or the GR86 will be an amazing car? I am not a Toyata fan in particular, but I just want a sports car that has plenty of option for aftermarket parts, and a hand brake for motor sports. Hope anyone is kind enough to asnwer my question lol.
I know I’m 8 months late but I’d take the Yaris over a 86 without batting an eye. Sure the 86 is fun in the corners and all but you have to bag the piss out of it and they’re still quite slow, especially compared to your GTI. I think you’d be disappointed in the GR86, the Yaris is just a better car. Still amazing in the corners, faster in the straights, a really nice manual gearbox and far more unique. And now with the GR Corolla being released within the year here I think we’ll be seeing much more aftermarket for these cars
It depends if you can actually get your hands on one of these Yaris'! it's bonkers how the lack of GT86 sales in the UK were compared to the rest of the world but this has uterly hit the right spot. The premium in the classifieds is absurd. Hopefully it shows Toyota there still is a demand in the UK for enthusiast cars. Just to note on a few drive the deal websites I've seen the golf R on sale for £33/34k. Not used so can't say it's an unfair comparison there between new Vs used. Love your comparison Dan and really valid points. If it was my own money I'd agree with you on the GR Yaris but I'd add one of the main contributing factors will be total cost of ownership. Although all the parts for the golf will be easy to get and modify, there's no doubt the values of these Golfs will drop significantly over the next few years. The Yaris on the other hand looks to me like this generations BMW 1M.
And surely it proves beyond all doubt, once and for all, that if they'd made the GT86 more powerful they would have sold like hot cakes. The new GR86 is what the GT86 should have been in 2012, minimum. The GR86 should now be launching with about 240 bhp and 1100 kg. That would be perfect.
@@pjay3028 I think the GT86 has the right power for what people NEED but nobody WANTS. Nobody wants a sports car that's slower than your completely average diesel rental car. 240 with a bit of fettling and weight reduction will make the new one an absolute weapon on back roads.
Never thought I’d hear someone compare a Yaris to a 911, Toyota did a brilliant job with gr Yaris
litchfield done a great job... the regular gr yaris is waay worse than the golf R
@@alexandremello963 golf r is amazing but has issues with electronics. GR Yaris would be a stress free ownership
@@maxmorris4562 ooh come on... I'm talking about performance here!!
Toyota is far better then german machine, better motorisation,i had both Yaris and a golf,and beliveme,toyota all day long,even if the germans made nice cars,the engine quality is not like the ones we had before,on the other side, Toyota is doing a good job
@@mikesa9325 comparing performance . not reliability. Two different things
To all the GR Yaris owners out there, never sell them, they will never make a car like this again. Oh and I hate you lol
Spent more money on a slower car with less storage and the yaris will cost more in repairs seems like a smart move to me LOL
@@ericmarshall9262 wdym but it cost more?
@@ericmarshall9262 I think you never heard about Golf service cost. Yaris is like your regular car. Golf on the other hand..
@@ericmarshall9262 yaris Is Toyota
Have u driven one they’re not that great tbh. Still awesome Toyota made it though..
I’ve got a GR and my son has a golf 7.5 he drove my GR and was blown away at the grip the feel and and speed, what people don’t understand is usability the GR usability in all weathers and conditions is astounding, a golf R would struggle to keep up, it’s not about drag races or top speeds anymore it’s about driving the thing!
Totally agree on that.. i bet driving the car with 6mt is far more involving the driving.. hence more fun...
Lost my gr due to crap dealer
Got a new golf r
Glad to be home
But steering crap and fuvk it heavy
Don’t miss crap Perth Toyota dealers though
It's seems Toyota is getting back to making fun and affordable cars. Great review.
Its slower by 1.3secs... has less storage... and will cost more in repairs... toyota really hit it on the head huh?
That Toyota isn't stock @Zak
@@ericmarshall9262 never heard that from a toyota ownerbefore'' hahaha it seems that u hate it to much???
the build quality of toyota is really good, I dont think that upgrade puts a lot of stress on the engine by the sound of it, they squeeze more power and but still on a safe side. All I can say is drive one, it might surprise u...ps golf owner here
3 cylinder engine is just too weak
@@lilripsta911, and because of this Toyota gaves 5 years of warranty .. of course :D
Always wanted a Nissan Sunny/Pulsar GTIR. The Yaris GR reminds me so much of that car!
I’ve had a few over the years...should have kept my last one...but ya can’t keep em all....a car that should have been copied long before now.
The same but with a modern chassis, suspension and brakes ... not to mention safer in a crash.
Yeah they were go karts I had mine stage 3 400bhp was mad but 1 day my brother took it and crashed it😕
The GR Yaris reminds me only of the Mitsubishi Evo. That's the only reason why I don't get an GR Yaris. 😄
good shout that
I can see why you (all) like the Yaris but people buy Golf R's because they want/need a fun daily car with rear doors and a boot. In which case the Yaris is not even an option, so probably not much cross-shopping between these two
I think the video is just demonstrating the difference between a lightly warmed over boring car, and a truly exciting, fun, homologation special. It is a shame that cars like the Golf have failed to acheive a concept that was pretty much already nailed 20 years ago by things like Evos and WRXs.
I see the Golf R as a compromised hot hatch because it has tried to offer all of what you mentioned whereas the GRY has no compromises and it's up to the owner to make the compromises to make it work as a daily. I'm happy with the sacrifices I have to make in order to enjoy the GRY daily.
Also bear in mind that most people who comment on here have never driven either car. On Dan’s remit I have no doubt, as a drivers car, the GR seems universally the best (I haven’t driven one) - manual gearbox, purpose built...but as a daily the Golf R all day long (which I do own) - more space, plenty fun for a commute, comfortable, and launch control never gets old 🤣
Golf R is not a fun daily car though, no car can be fun and daily.... it's an oxymoron. You are arguing for a jack of all trades, and that is why people still buy an MX5 to get away from that A to B side....
@@zakelwe What we’re saying here is living with the compromises... the GR is too small for my needs....would love a go in one for sure... An MX5 is an even greater compromise....It’s probably why James on TH owns an S4 and an MX5 I guess. But people who say a Golf R isn’t a fun daily 🥱 have probably never driven one 😒
He's absolutely right. The Yaris is no fun driven slowly. When I am having fun on public roads I usually find myself driving in the middle of the night, no traffic, way above the speed limit on curvy country roads here in germany, or drifting up serpentines. It is just too grippy and stable. Driving fast on the Autobahn is a bit of fun, but it isn't where this car really shines.
Big fan of the Golf, but this Yaris is something special. It stands out and we likely won’t be getting one like this again. I guess it depends on what you’re after, but I’d love both.
Yaris will also be worth more down the line and it’s kinda like the 911 Gt3 of the Toyota lineup. I’d take one over a supra.
I owned one of the early Supras.I had early serious rust problems
Why like GT3?
@@1anre they’re both homologation cars, they are both more special than anything else in the current lineup. The gt3 has one hell of an engine and one you’re not going to find anywhere else, save for the gt4rs, also a homologation car. The Yaris has an awesome inline 3 that you also won’t find in any other cars. They both aren’t made for straight line speed, but do well in that regard. More importantly, they offer feedback and communication to the driver that most other cars don’t. These are special cars
@@PapiAndrey ah I got it. For $40K which other brand new cars do you think one can consider in this bracket ?
@@1anre do you mean in the case of homologation cars? Or do you mean similar cars in the sense that they give the driver feedback and communication? That’s mainly what I was referring to. The Yargis GR some other cars like the 400z and older cars like the E92 M3 give you that feedback and connection that most other new cars done give you. It makes you feel connected to the car like you’re the one making the power and moving the car. That connection makes you feel like you’re the one in control and you have a much better time than a car that’s numb like many new BMW’s.
This guy's singlehandedly done half of the new golf r reviews on youtube!
And half the stuff he says is wrong
@@ericmarshall9262 What do you mean wrong?
Great video with an explanation and conclusion that actually describes the differences well. Excellent work chaps!
Yaris any day, every day. Thank you
yeh if ur a midget
@@Gamgam4843n Strange when I sat in one (I'm a 6ft 1 lanky stickman) I fitted perfectly only issue I had (and this is splitting hairs) was the seat a little bit high but even then I still fitted in perfectly fine.
@@Gamgam4843n what a stupid comment
Pay more for a slower car, with less storage, and cost more to repair, way to go toyota!
@@ja2688 With the low mount rear view mirror and high screen the central view across the dash is compromised if you're 6ft.
I like the R - seems like a very good, if somewhat conservative hot hatch but would take a GR Yaris every single day - probably because I own one...
Oh and I use Arch btw...
GR Yaris has a manual gearbox, that makes it a winner in this comparison from the point of view of being a driver's car. I considered the GR, but bought a Golf R manual mk7.5 instead as I need the space for my daughter and my dog.
Dam PlayStation and Xbox generation how don’t know how to use a clutch is making manual car becoming extinct.
Leave your manuals ffs
Yep GR Yaris all day long 👍👍
I bought a Yaris circuit pack for 39.900 euros. A Golf R in italy is almost 60k
€57k euro in Ireland and a spec'd R is €70k
@@davidbrady1551 Absolutely too much
@@mariobotti1952 You can thank your governments for those high taxes.
that seems the other way round, in uk and germany people buy Golf Rs like hotcakes as they are very cheap to lease, but even the list price isnt much higher, the Yaris is sold out and can only be bought for about 10k more than the list price
@@tedt7991 yaris too expensive here like all cars. Niche market here for the R now since vrt changes but has more of a chance the the GR due to its practically
I drove the Yaris for 1 day and it was IMPOSSIBLE to drive slow... it is such a sweaty (for real) drive!
“Sweaty” meaning uncomfortable?
@@1anre More like "supprised".
I had to get used to the response and power.
My "quickest" car I drove was my Corolla Touring Sport GR 2.0l.
It was, due to the EV support, quite snappy. But very linear and not aggressive.
The very quick response of the turbo of the Yaris is another story.
I had the Yaris for 1 day and after 1h or so I drove 160 MPH on the very rainy Autobahn.
The stiff chasis, AWD etc makes the car extremly controllable and boosts your confidance.
I drove around 10min on the Autobahn and entered back roads to enjoy the movability of the car.
Unbelievable expierence.
When my job goal is at it's peek, I will buy my a Lexus GS450h or the Yaris for sure.
The Yaris CAN be a daily. The problem is, that you don't want to drive slowly or "normal" with the Yaris.
The Lexus on the other hand is luxurious can more for the soul If you know what I mean.
@@VampirusX thanks for breaking it down.
For a first brand new car; the M2, MkV Supra, Yaris GR are all topping my list, but still trying to think of if these are the best I can get for $40K max
@@1anre Get the Yaris!
The Supra is a BMW as the M2 is ... and both are more expensive than the Yaris (even with the performance pack).
You buy a serious car with the Toyota reliability.
Or wait for the new 2.4l GR86.
Not the same performance ... but a better transmission than the Yaris and a sports car (beautiful handling, shifting etc) instead of a track car like the Yaris.
The Yaris is a street warrior you will never get with a Supra or M2 (IMO)
Golf R for me, I know the GR Yaris is not really a Yaris, but still...also couldn’t fit the kids in the back as easily as the R, so overall just feel the R is the more complete package...courses for horses
Me too. If was without kids...different story 🤣
Plus you can take it to a proper Stage 1 remap (cost about £1000) and it is pushing 400BHP. I've seen a video somewhere, that Golf was 398BHP on the roller. 🙂
I'll suggest you buy a Golf Diesel. Is also more fuel efficient.
Golf R is cheaper, bigger, easier to maintain, ALOT faster and it dosnt look like a girls car, also a quick 600-1000$ tune and your near 400HP
@@ericmarshall9262 Pobably didn't see the smile on his face while driving the Yaris. That s what it is all about...
Another superb video Dan, thanks so much. Would be interested in comparison of the Yaris against your Alpine A110? Very different cars for sure, Alpine only a bit more expensive, but which is more fun and engaging?
They are very different, but they appeal to the same people, I think.
Awesome! As an X Daihatsu Charade GTti owner and having had a couple of Golf R's as demo cars this was an exciting video to watch. Great content 💪💪💪
the Yaris needs a exaust upgrade. But it looks like a fun little car :)
It needs fake sounds turning off.
the issue is the OPF filter. lookup videos of OPF deleted Gr's. It's beautiful
@@andrxito that’s due to European rules?
The GR Yaris sounds amazing! That's a ton of HP per cylinder @ 100 hp per cylinder! Too bad it's not coming to America but apparently some form of Gazoo racing Corolla will debut in the US.
What does that look like?
I’ll keep my R, just because I’m biased
I’m keeping my R7,and eagerly awaiting delivery of R8.
Agree mate. Will keep mine. Does everything well, fast, great on the highway and comfortable around town.
Haha fair play, it's a fantastic car!
Golf got good resale values I own a 8 GTI hardly lost its value
If you’re a petrol head the GR Yaris is the winner, no questions asked.
Car enthusiast, not exactly is a speed enthusiast
@@johnnyng8527 Exactly, and that’s why these electric cars are so unappealing at the moment. They may be quick but I doubt there driving dynamics is anywhere near ICE sports cars
Golf R 1.3 SECs quicker and cheaper then a toyota... yea seems like a win huh? LOL
@@ericmarshall9262 Point confirmed. 0-62mph has little relation to how fun a car is...
The next question is, what if you tuned and modded the Golf R as much as the Yaris from the GR base model?
Exactly, ever a stage 1 would really waken up the R. Cost is the R biggest weakness, €70k here in Ireland, madness. So here, it would be Clubsport or GR Yaris
Then it would even cost more than it already does..... wake up
@@armsoldtoys6278 true if you’re price sensitive, but stock versus stock, the R would take it...not saying the Yaris isn’t better value
In straight line not disputing that..
@@armsoldtoys6278 lol. Of course it would. Modding it isn't gonna make it cheaper. Lol.
As fast as a Carrera S...must be proven ;)
Depends on the road and driver. Most people buying a Yaris GR will be younger and prepared to spank it, the older Porsche blue rinse brigade less so.
When you get older you get more money, but then slow down driving wise. I know from experience.
Its not, the guy who posted the video is on crack, a golf R is 1.3 sec faster then the 5.3 second yaris, buddy is just blowing smoke out his ass and the noncar guys are eating it up
Nowhere close.
Even with all the mods and losing the warranty, the Yaris isn't gonna be anywhere close to the Golf R
@@ericmarshall9262 There's more to life than 0-60 times, my friend.
@@YusufGinnah Not on a small winding road.
Golf is dull,Yaris GR is the Hott in the Hot hatch segment, thanks for the video, my GR track pack is on its way 👏🏻👏🏻 can’t wait
Put the Michelin PS4S on the golf and you’re gonna have a amazing grip also...
put a semislick on it and you'll experience the true meaning of body roll. The suspension just can't cope with higher levels of grip.
it‘s a golf. it‘s never gonna have a chance against the yaris
Drift mode should be useful on the way to school.
Absolutely will be!
@@backseatdriver8902 especially when doing fast handbrake turn to get to an empty car park space out front of the school
Tarquin and Henrietta and going to love it.
All the freshman girls will love it!!
When my Evo 9 finally dies, I'll get this GR Yaris, it looks mint and tough as hell
I'm in a position that I can have the GR Yaris as a daily driver for free, however I drove it one weekend and realized that I must have nine lives on my driving license for it to work.
Huh?
CARWOW tested the mk8 Golf R 1/4 mile at 12.3 and thus tuned Yaris @ 12.9. So the mk8 R is 0.6 seconds quicker in the qtr mile.
Wow, cool. Take the Golf R to rally :DD
@@timuryaroshenko3697 wow cool. The Yaris isn’t In the same league as the golf r
12.3 modded golfR not stock
@@mattsamuels3607 the golf is flat out boring & I own one
Ye it can go quick in a straight line but round the bends it's not exciting
@@mattsamuels3607 Yeah the Yaris just way better in so many points lol
Fair review. I think it’s agreed the Yaris is more fun but that the Golf has more all-round ability. More practical and when you’re not in the mood, it’ll be a more refined comfortable car.
Jealous maybe
@@lucienpetrus9432 no one is jealous on a yaris... or on a golf for that matter unless the yaris is your second car for track days and for the price you can get a used exige which actually creates jealous and has a lot more road presence not to mention is a fun car to drive
got a test drive in the morning, i can't wait
Thanks Dan. As always, another top review!
Yaris by a mile.
Thank the lord for Toyota having the balls in the first place to actually go ahead and produce this road going rally car. Absolutely incredible 👍
Stunning little car. My partner has an old VVTI and that is fun. This must be an absolute rocket.
Golf R during the week, Yaris for weekends/Trackdays ;)
But why spend so much gas tho? In this case, is better to have a diesel for the week and a sports car for the weekend.
@@achilleconte4385 to have some fun during the week? ;) Diesel is boring
@@HotHatchTV an Alpina D3 is not boring 😉
Both cracking cars but the yaris is only applicable to people with no friends or family or as a second car for the lucky few. All I know is my R with PP is coming in July 😎
How’ve you been finding it?
All this GR needs is the exhaust that Shmee has just had fitted & it's done!
A lot of people like GR Yaris on paper but bought Golf in reality.
Makes so much sense. I predicted this outcome before watching the video.
The YARIS GR is logical to feel faster as it is lighter but probably it should be less conformable than the GOLF 8 R. I would like to see a real comparison between these two vehicles on track to observe which one is actually better.
No Yaris GR in the US if I'm not mistaken. We never get anything small and good. 😥
Ikr, my Mazda 2 is turning 10 this year and probably only has around 2 years left, and I am actually panicking over what car I’m going to get next. Everything is big and stupid
@@Leviathan1216 yes they even killed the Honda Fit, and Yaris. So honestly not much to choose from brand new.
Superb video Dan. Great to know the Litchfield package is a winner.
Are there other tuners that’ve done the upgrades as well as Litchfield?
How does the suspension on the Litchfield compared to the Ford Focus RS?
I had an RS for 8 months and had to get rid of it because the suspension was way too firm.
The yaris has really hard suspension. Going over speedbumps and potholes will literally knock your fillings out.
@@davidshurterfoundermembero2885 thanks that's exactly what I thought, so it's not for me.
@@dougmaverick3287 Hang on, i just realised you asked what lichfield was like. I haven't driven that. I thought you were asking about normal circuit pack suspension so forget what i said. Sorry.
Presumably the Lichfield remap will void the warranty for any drivetrain related claims on the Yaris?
Yes, definitely.
Would it void the warranty on everything?
It's a tuning box, not a map! Any engine modification risks the drive train warranty, just like every 7.5R being mapped
Just remove the tuning box if you have a problem, then book it into the dealer.
GR for me no doubt or question.
Not a fair comparison but probably the closest there is. Yaris gr is a homologation car. The only one in the market. It was made for wrc and then for the public. It's a beast and might just be the last of its kind.
In my opinion.. A hot hatch is a 3 door, small and fast car that gives you a smile from ear to ear every time you drive it.. That's a hot hatch!
I don't like how the yaris looks but it is a hot hatch and still better looking(aggressive) then the golf, the golf is just a boring family car. And the money is ridiculously high for a car like this..
I'd pick the yaris over the golf anytime.
Great video guys, thanks 🙏🏼
The GR is 911 S quick - now that's some compliment. The 5 door auto Golf is just that, dull dull dull!
You seem to really hate VW as you posted on tons of VW videos about how horrible and dull they are 🤷♂️
@@shiugen676 the Golf is dull - that's just a fact!
I would get a GolfR for everyday use. They are nice cars. Yeah little dull at times but not that bad.
@@Dave-gl6jb the most dull choice, RS3 & A45S are better and more exciting. Plus at the price point of 44k you can buy plenty of better dailys than a Golf 👍
@@relentlesspursuit6894 not sure where you live but RS3 or A45s are well over 100k euros base model here whilst near full spec R 70k, big price gap.
Also not sure where you are getting your information. Have you test driven both yet? I sadly haven't due to restrictions around here.
Really it comes down to comparing apples to oranges. I personally bought the R (arrives first week July). I need a car that is a hot hatchback and not a super mini. Have family and gear to shift around. Also I'm never going near a manual again. These are just person preferences/practicalities.
Sure they are both cracking cars in their own areas
Yep the yaris is that good. Great job.
why would you want lower mounted seats in the Yaris? Is visibility not cool? Better to have the beltline and dash at eye level to look cool and lower your center of gravity?
Nice comparison! Personally I would take the Golf R, The Yaris is a bit of a youngsters car! But I can imagine how fun that Yaris is though
I don't know, I think the Yaris is more of a 'special' car that older folk can get away with owning, because of what it is. I'm in my 40's and kick about in an Audi A8 and I want one! I think the Golf R has the boy racer vibe more than the GR Yaris.
@@roodoff2411 As a second car that’s totally fine! I would take one also
Can't go wrong with either one but I'd choose the Toyota anytime
Does the corbeau seat keeps the heating option and are they still easily ajustable? (Do you need some tools to set it?)
After that video I am really hesitating to take just the seats for my yaris😬
Legalities of no airbags will make it unroad worthy in probably 99%of country's. Very stupid advice
@@yeahmateyeah good point... surely it will be in Switzerland...
Pretty sure it's legal in the UK if the seatbelts still work with the seat, you just take the risk that if you crash the airbags won't be there. Also I think Corbeau makes a heated version.
Great review!
The GR Yaris is one of the best Car's for fast Driving since the Mitsubishi Evo.
Depends, as a 2nd car for tack and fun, The Yaris.
But for a every day car/only car and some time fun/track driving, The golf every day.
In my eyes, GR has only two problems. Too much tire noise with PS 4s tires and needs a proper lower reclinging seat.
Other than that it is much better daily than Golf R. New Golf infotainment is worse than the hideous Toyota systems. At least Toyota system is easy to use.
Golf materials are also not what they used to be.
@@KarlkEst You can not get the toyota with beter sound/infotainmentsystem and trackpack.
The ride comfort, the back seats.... trunk space...
And me i prefer a DSG in my DD over a manual.
Ye i also hate the touch button and so in the mk8 but that i can live with, not be able to ride 4 adult in it is a deal braker.
I agree, If you have friends or family the GR isn't much use as an only car to do car things which is why I have a GR & GTI
I’d keep it stock and for decades if I had one.
If you like driving, get the gr. If you live in an urban area and have a business selling goods in small plastic bags, get the R
Great job on this Dan as always! Driving bits aside, the VW Golf R is off my list no matter what as the interior and its awful tech interface has me running to the Yaris GR. I'd much rather have a down spec interior that functions.
So true on the tech interface on the golf. I've heard even VW dealers aren't happy with it. My colleagues daughter bought a new golf, drives them mad trying to work it out.
The in to the cabin filming is cool.
One of the best cars Toyota has made oh and the 10 year long LFA project that didn’t sell too well due to price! They tried with the Lexus RCFs etc but failed however, I’ll have the all round, very refined R thanks.
i am a pure VW head , but i would go for the yaris GR
oh the new Golf R awd system can't compare with the GR Yaris Thorsen diff's front and rear.
IMO the GR Yaris is in a league of it's own.
So why was the golf not remapped...
Give me that Yaris every single day. Even in stock form. Brilliant machine
Is it legal to change the seats in the UK?
The standard seats have side airbags and I assume that the aftermarket seats don't.
Does the Litchfield pack void warranty on the GR Yaris?
Only the parts of the car which it has changed
Motor warranty is void
@@YusufGinnah remove the tuning box 😎
@@relentlesspursuit6894
Depends on who your trying to hide it from I guess...
- Insurance company - find an insurer who doesn't mind or you won't be paid out in an accident, cos you won't be able to 'remove' the box.
- Car maker - You mod it then you take the risk of failures because vehicles nowadays have performance logs up to 30 days long.
If your car is only meant to boost at 0.5bar max and your car has been boosting at 1.1bar in the last 30 days, you'd be caught out.
*_Try being as honest with others as you would want them to be with you_*
@@YusufGinnah well said. Wish more people would do their due diligence and accept the risks and responsibility instead of trying to sneak around. If your remap blows the turbo, own up to it. If you remap and your water pump dies odds are the manufacturer will honor their drivetrain warranty. That's been my experience.
Yep, homologation special rather than the generic (quick) hatchback for me please
I wonder if the yaris just feels fast but actually is not (mx5 effect) than the mk8r. It would be nice is they went against each other in a circuit.
The Yaris will feel faster because it is faster.. it's nearly 270kg's lighter and in this state of tune has pretty much the same power as the Golf.
Lightness is very important, on paper the Golf has a bit more power but the litchfield Yaris has a superior power to weight ratio of 0.2327hp/kg vs the Golf 0.2035hp/kg. For comparison a 911 Carrera S has power to weight ratio of 0.2786hp/kg which is still far superior than the Yaris but the Yaris does have similar power to weight ratio as a 718 cayman S which has a power to weight ratio of 0.2364hp/kg
th-cam.com/video/drlN2nqq92c/w-d-xo.html stock yaris, stock R
Will you guys be reviewing the Cupra Leon anytime soon? The 300hp one preferably.
Can you write which corbeau seats are in this Yaris GR. please? Any link for it?
Found it. Here www.corbeau-seats.com/product/rs2-reclining-bucket-seat/
Forget the BMW Supra
This is Toyota’s GOAT 👍🏻
The supra is OK... tho combining the reliability of Toyota with the BMW's lack of reliability was just DUMB.
The should have learned from the GT86 head gasket desaster... the Supra is ugly too... it has NOTHING to do with the original.
Just mentioning 911 in a GR Yaris is sacrilegious, but I do get it.
the akrapovic exhaust option is atleast 2k on the R..
Lol! All i did was add a tuning box now running 330hp. I stick to my Golf R 7.5... Why spend money on a mk8?
Just as much fun.
Where's the VS part?
I’d buy the Yaris if I could get it in Canada in a heartbeat just a cool little car
Nurburgring Setting sounds so exciting
I have had VW Golf's since 1990. i just sold my golf R.stage 2 i don't think that yaris would have got anywhere near it.
but i understand.the yaris looks fun. standard form it would probably not be so cut and dry. a bit silly.i would not under
any circumstances be throwing 40.000 on a yaris. but i hate this new golf R it looks like its had too many pies.
so my answer i purchased one of the last GTI TCR's and it feels special!,
Go look at how much a used GY Yaris is.
It holds its money way more than a fucking VW.
@@v4skunk739 because nobody buys a toyota for 40k....
@@vwgti3414 Yeah that's why the GR Yaris is sold out and selling used above retail.
@@v4skunk739 i don't give a fck...🥳🥳🥳
@@vwgti3414 although you realise they are 33k new - ofcourse if you want a used on itl cost you 36k+, they go up in value unlike a Golf which gets discounted even from new
atlesst I know my kids will have fun cars as there first cars in the future, GR brought back driving
Oh, it’s a tuner car like Dinan for BMW or Brabus for Benz. Golf R is a spicier Audi S3, nice, and easier to live with than Lichfield’s Yaris.
Idk if I am missing something but the Golf looks more playful, so it’s weird the Yaris won this comparison on fun despite Dan mentioning multiple times it’s not playful enough
Yaris had an extra tuning package as well.......seems a bit unfair to judge against a stock R. Tune the r and we have a different discussion..I take the r all day.
@@KC-lg8qf It wasn't a stock R though. It had the performance pack. Not to mention the Akrapovic exhaust 😉
@@ajh5552 these are options from the factory + you don't get a power increase with the performance pack
On the other hand, the Yaris literally got its warrenty voided
Silly bias comparison
@@ajh5552 You clearly have never discussed stock versus modded before...
0 to 60 tuned? 🤔
The Yaris makes me excited for the Corolla GR here in the USA.
Still getting the Golf R regardless though. Just way more heritage and experience.
Lol
All well and good but i couldn't pay 40k for a yaris
What are the model of seats ??
Corbeau but they don’t really match the rest of the interior.
The gr looks more fun. But if it was my money for a daily it would be the golf r
When Toyota really leans in, they do such a phenomenal job. Best manufacturer for the money. 👍🏻
What a car. I mean the GR Yaris
Excellent video, but, your audio level is really low.
does the litchfield tuned yaris come with an updated exhaust?
Not present here, but they can also do a Milltek resonated and non resonated systems with the map to take account of them. I'll be running mine stock for a while before heading down to Gloucestershire.
Availability, availability, availability. Enough said. Good luck getting a hold of the GR Yaris.
what kind of car comparison does not have a drag race or roll race?
Those are pointless. Track laptimes are far more useful to compare the abilities of vehicle, since they have corners! :)
@@TassieLorenzo thats where you got it wrong, less than 1 percent of the buyers will be taking them to the circuit, but l can tell you all of them will drag race and some roll race, in public and private places
@@mthunzidube1423 i had 2 STIs, m140i and Golf 6 R, and i never drag raced my cars cuz i am adult, so no majority of owners of these kind of cars dont do drag races
@@misa664 why get those performance versions if you not going to use what they were meant for, its like a person that buys a Bugatti but never takes it for drag event, why not get a comfortline then or GTI instead of an R and a 120i because clearly you don't know what the high end specs were meant for
@@mthunzidube1423 They're not meant to drive in a straight line you dunce.
So, I have a GTI and want a second car as the fun car. Would the GR Yaris or the GR86 will be an amazing car?
I am not a Toyata fan in particular, but I just want a sports car that has plenty of option for aftermarket parts, and a hand brake for motor sports.
Hope anyone is kind enough to asnwer my question lol.
I know I’m 8 months late but I’d take the Yaris over a 86 without batting an eye. Sure the 86 is fun in the corners and all but you have to bag the piss out of it and they’re still quite slow, especially compared to your GTI. I think you’d be disappointed in the GR86, the Yaris is just a better car. Still amazing in the corners, faster in the straights, a really nice manual gearbox and far more unique. And now with the GR Corolla being released within the year here I think we’ll be seeing much more aftermarket for these cars
Golf R has Akrapovic exhaust from factory too 👌🏼
Which is a £3300 cost option…not included in performance pack all of which puts RRP of R at £46k!
It depends if you can actually get your hands on one of these Yaris'! it's bonkers how the lack of GT86 sales in the UK were compared to the rest of the world but this has uterly hit the right spot. The premium in the classifieds is absurd. Hopefully it shows Toyota there still is a demand in the UK for enthusiast cars.
Just to note on a few drive the deal websites I've seen the golf R on sale for £33/34k. Not used so can't say it's an unfair comparison there between new Vs used.
Love your comparison Dan and really valid points.
If it was my own money I'd agree with you on the GR Yaris but I'd add one of the main contributing factors will be total cost of ownership.
Although all the parts for the golf will be easy to get and modify, there's no doubt the values of these Golfs will drop significantly over the next few years. The Yaris on the other hand looks to me like this generations BMW 1M.
New golf r for 33k really?
@@richiebtime489 yep. Got an email a while ago. Sign up to drive the deal, a high amount of VAG cars are 15-25% off.
And surely it proves beyond all doubt, once and for all, that if they'd made the GT86 more powerful they would have sold like hot cakes. The new GR86 is what the GT86 should have been in 2012, minimum. The GR86 should now be launching with about 240 bhp and 1100 kg. That would be perfect.
@@pjay3028 I think the GT86 has the right power for what people NEED but nobody WANTS. Nobody wants a sports car that's slower than your completely average diesel rental car. 240 with a bit of fettling and weight reduction will make the new one an absolute weapon on back roads.
@@SteezyG wow that's a very good deal