Wait, I only have like 1 sec in this ? lol I guess youre saving the same word catalog you used on stonetoss to talk about me in another video, because gotta milk old stuff for clicks.
They aren’t milking you or anyone for views though?… they’re just explaining an old iceberg about infamous controversial figures in the art community…where are you getting the milking from😭
on shadman, tbh it really is oddly satisfying to me to see someone who made that kind of material(you know what) and openly shared it online and bragged about it turn out how he did, a loser on the streets.
I honestly find it boggling how this video went from you average fetish material on DeviantArt, to Chris-Chan, to Ctrl+Alt+Del, to actual criminals still roaming the streets, to actual cruelty like Racist Mario, to the infamous Zootopia abortion comic. The internet is pretty insane, and quite bizarre if you will. I await Part 2 and 3 so we'd get to more illegal shit.
@@WaffelWuffelChris-chan is so high up cause it's the most recognizable, hell they were even in news broadcasts, do you not know how icebergs vids work?
I think one that could fit in this list is JM, a pretty talented chinese artist that unfortunately did.... R-18G things and got caught by chinese authorites
Don't know she was on the intro pic all they did was have a different art style but real the Internet can be anything just not usually a very good version of that
she went on to purposefully expose her underage followers to NSFW content and encourage them to create p*rn of her fursona. so she's a predator now too
The fact that john bob self-exposed himself for being a groomer is crazy because he was like friends with every single twitter artist ever. He collabed with them, they appeared in his video game, and he made a huge rise in the art community, but everything starded to fall and it's because of him, he hid his true colors just to admitt his crimes after.
i think my favorite lil fact about myself is that i met Hotdiggidydemon in person when i was 12-13. At the time he had a booth over at one of my local cons and he was really chill when i met him. I even have a signed commission he did. he’s now one of the reasons I wanted to be an artist. As messed up as that sounds.
That's really cool, I never had the chance to meet Max in real life but if I ever did I'd be so overwhelmed with emotion because his work was my starting point too.
The only reason he fell as hard as he did was when he crossed the one line no artist should cross less they get skewered. He traced over and based two drawings on actual people.
@@bubbakins18 Despite max having his severe edgyness "say bad word = funny" past, he still kinda rocks with the new edgyness he rebuilt with most recent animations. Way better built up. I love it. Plus its not just edgyness anymore, it got more put into it than just jokes. Khyle on the other hand puts his own randomness on his art, which i find amazing. Each piece i see from him will make me realize something unexpected. You get presented with a theme and somehow it all changes when you look at a detail in the corner.
I genuinely really do like Khyle, mainly because of how good their art style is, and also because they add little details to their pieces which whenever you notice it, it'll catch you off guard for how shocking it is
Yeah nah hes the least worst idk why hes so low in the iceberg, yeah it's offensive/edgy/inmature but like, people have done way worse things, hes alright, bit of a gooner tho
As someone that's a NSFW artist, I'm always afraid of what people think about me as a person. My main focus was never really about smut, I wanted to make my own animated series, tell stories and make people laugh. If I do make my show and people look at my smut art, people would just call me a scumbag. Also there are so many things that people that can't stand about humor in adult shows, and things you can't say, I'm starting if I should still continue you on in this line of work.
You're completely fine as long as you're not hurting anyone. NSFW art has a huge market so if that's something you want to do then by all means go for it. Obviously, some people won't like it, but at the end of the day you should do what you want to do.
@@Ryychii please do major cloog next even before the grooming drama he's had some other drama in the past(ex. the GraffitiAlopia drama speaking of which who you should include also)
@@ba6tatz I once saw a comment under a major cloog video that said something like this "Major's fans loved him and now major loved them back" Something along the lines
Honestly i love how well made this video is! You include the right amount of info and the editing + visuals are rlly nice to look at. The mic quality is also pretty good. Also love the stills you have!
If there's one infamous online artist I really want to have in the very bottom tier iceberg in a future video, it has to be Horade or Horadeart from Buenos Aires, Argentina. He’s not quite the most well known, but he's infamous for his private erotic roleplays grooming with female vicitms towards their underage OCs exposing his catalog of kinks and paraphilias(I was his earliest), his very aggressive predatory incel behavior towards boyfriends with girlfriends, women and minors (online and offline) for over 15 years since the mid 2000's. He’s well known for that Legend of Korra letter for season 3's Earth Queen episode that lied towards the fandom going after minors. What got himself finally cancelled on twitter on October 10, 2020 is the infamous commission request of his very first self-insert OC, Quiton Loomis, going after HellOnEarthIII's two OC's as 5 year olds and then the babies inside of them, then Horade sent him the drawing of naked babies "reference" that HOE instantly refused to do back in 2019 on a private facebook chat. Shuttermask asked about the worst commission which HOE strongly refused for fun, leading to one of the most surprising exposures to end off 2020.
@@Ryychii A recent artist that got outed as a werido creep was SynniBear03. Important people to watch for information are Birdie,KenyRZ,SophTheNeko and if you got the time Onlyplatonicirl , a stream going over some chat logs between Synni and a child that she groomed and a google doc. Most other people who made videos on this are just spectors or ex-fans.In short she's a groomer, a gooner, an unconsenting person toucher and a doctor disrespect of boundaries in gerenal
@@thisonlyexistforminecraftthe word gooner is one of the many gen z terms that have ruined this generation on the internet 😂 gen alpha has serious competition
there are three docs one with a kid named "Eno" , one with "Emo boy"(that one is the worst for Synni's case) and the one about how she was inresponsible with her discord server
I actually think he's a genius! His realisation that "wait... people like seeing characters in my tragic story happy? then I'll make them pay me to do it!" is honestly pretty clever for a small artist! I love his artwork and I'm a sucker for a good tragic story.
As a person who wants to become both sfw and nsfw artist, i feel bad for the nsfw artists, ever since that shadman art, i feel like it created a domino effect for a bad rep for some nsfw artists am i in the wrong?
It's just that adult content just gets frowned upon by a lot of people, As with most things, porn is destructive if you consume too much of it But I still don't feel like harassing somebody just because they have an exceptional hobby and are trying to get the bag Also, I feel like there's a lot of controversy with smaller NSFW artists who think they know how to run a space but end up flipping the bird As most communities, we're still growing...
Maybe I'm dumb but I just don't get the pattern that they're going for. They're not going for "least fucked up to most fucked up" nor "popular to obscure." It's seems to be at random.
It's not even an iceberg. The subject matter isn't something that gets "deeper" as you get into it. It's one red thread that is only connected by "questionable artist." You'll notice there's not even levels. Frankly, I only kept watching to find new artists of interest, as some just make content that piss people off...and other's are names I need to avoid for peace of mind...
The video is just bad. He intentionally or unintentionally left out details on the wrongdoing of many artists, having straight up false information, and worst of all brushes off hate crimes as only "offensive to some people" as if they don't affect real people.
When you got to Hotdiggitydemon and started talking about how some people don't like him due to edgy jokes he made in the past, I honest to god thought I was going to see Mexican Sweatshop leading Rarity, only to get blasted away with the Steven Universe images
Damn where did TH-cam's energy go after they told flashghitz to change that thumbnail??? Like, I see even worse ones from supposedly "kid friendly" content farm channels which constantly use click bait thumbnails with literally cropped po rn or traced p orn, etc. And yet that shit stays and even gets monetized.
ive somehow managed to get tossed around so much in the last decade ive been on the internet that im familiar with all the people/phenomena in all the layers. im gonna touch some grass and maybe draw something nice.
Nicholas Federov - An internet guy who made very authentic and really interesting 90-2000s CGI style and primitive 2D animation. He was the one that made “The Computer” animation, at only 16 years old. He’s able to perfect the mood of 90s outdated animation by not only spending a ridiculous amount of time studying it, but also using era-accurate software, too! However, a youtuber named Chadtronic made a video providing commentary on his animations, which Nicholas didn’t really like, as he felt uncomfortable with his newfound fame, and left the internet for a while, settling under the name “Proxima64”. This is where my concept of the story gets a little hazy, though. To begin, Nicholas was alleged of being horribly transphobic and wishing death against trans people, as well as bragging about his ego and was alleged to have sent malware to his underage fans. However, a TH-camr named Sweguin talked about Nicholas on another iceberg called the Massive TH-cam Iceberg, which Nicholas got in touch with Sweguin and confirmed some things; Nicholas only acted like an asshole to impress the bad friend group he was in, as well as some info being outdated. Nicholas has sort of come out and reclaimed the dickish behavior he had in 2023, which kinda sucks, because this guy seemed kind of admirable at first. Synnibear03 - An art commentary/animation meme TH-camr who was the roommate of another TH-camr named Birdie, with both of them being seemingly very good friends. However, Synni was exposed to have groomed minors, and Birdie/Jack set up a Gofundme for someone to help him get out of the environment around Synni, as Synni had been sexually harassing and groping Jack. Synni originally published an “apology” to everyone, before backpedaling and making claims that Jack was a scammer and focusing on how Jack was evil more than her grooming kids. TH-camrs like Turkey Tom and Kumo, the latter of which being Synni’s friend, made videos reacting to the situation and cracking jokes all the while, which is incredibly disrespectful. Kumo privated his stream, which was misgendering Jack and victim-blaming him while meatriding Synni. Synni deleted that video she made and straight-up left the internet. Emily Youcis - The creator of Alfred Alfer, Emily Youcis was an incredibly messed up person; she started uploading animations on Newgrounds centering around Alfred Alfer, a mentally ill dog with a dissociative disorder who has the trauma of SA, and the first series, Alfred’s Playhouse, explores this really well. However, Emily started to soak up more and more right-wing ideologies, and she made the Alfred movie, which was more or less shock value for the sake of it. Emily eventually became an alt-right white supremacist, and was fired from her job as the Pistachio Girl due to her ideologies, and is active on Tiktok, as well as some social media sites that approve her hateful ideologies. This is a huge oversimplification, but some people have made much more expansive videos on Alfred’s Playhouse and Emily Youcis.
Chris-chan is definitely not high functioning. With John Bob many of his collaborative works later on didn’t really cite the source for many of the characters he used in his works which really upset some of the artists of the characters, especially when they’d get bugged a lot about how they stole the characters from John Bob. If I remember correctly at the time of the JB drama, Chocovania was still on a hiatus at the time cause of the harassment. Also it’s best not to call something a theory that’s been confirmed to be true, but thAT’S JUST- my two cents on probably unfortunate editing.
Want to correct you, Chris chan is not high functioning autistic as far as I'm aware of. His diagnosis was made in the late 80s-early 90s and during that time autism was equivalent to having AIDS as it carried a stigma and a long history of misconception and stereotypes that were pushed by groups like autism speaks. Take it from someone who is autistic, by the standards of the time Chris was diagnosed I wouldn't be considered autistic because I'm high functioning Also btw technically he's not trans, Chris says he's a woman because he thinks being a trans woman will get him more girls Lastly the incest thing is a claim that was never proven and was based on a out of context recording of a phonecall that was led by a sociopathic sadist bitch who admitted to getting sexual gratification from killing small animals (hampsters in a microwave) and sexuality assaulted her roommate and who admitted she was trying everything in her power to ruin Chris's life and drive him to killing himself.
@@Ryychii np, yea there's stuff that get overlooked or brushed under "Chris chan bad" stuff. I mean he's no saint however the internet made him the way he is and is an example of why laws protecting the mentality ill need to be more strict. I speak from experience also Actually a person who deserves to be on this list would be a former SFM artist named "the informant" it's a long story but she was a former SFM artist who scamed, lied, (failed) doxing, suicide and sympathy baiting etc. I'll link a video about her and her behavior (actually she had a personal grudge with me) Anyway, I like your oc reminds me of something from markiplier XD,
@fractalcounty doesn't mean much and doesn't mean he's a high functioning autistic, there are people outthere who have really high IQs but still are unable to do basic things. Like I said he was diagnosed during a time where autism was not well understood even when I was first diagnosed (2003ish) it was still misunderstood not to mention in the past autism and schizophrenia were classified as 1 in the same (autism being classed as a type of schizophrenia before the word autism was used post ww2) Idk if he was ever reevaluated (likely was for court) but if he was his original diagnosis would of been scraped also should note during his original diagnosis they didn't factor in alot including the fact his mother was an alcoholic during and after she gave birth to him and the trauma/abuse he went through prior to his diagnosis
But...why though? I never understood that. Isn't the main reason why CP is bad is because I forces children to be molested for financial gain and thus, the children have lifelong trauma or just flat out get murdered afterwards. I don't see how drawing it is just as bad?
@@thedesensitizedsympathizer5307 because they’re children my bro doesn’t matter if it’s real or not. That stuff could eventually lead someone to do bad things to irl children..
@@YoonieToonie Really? Then how does someone get the thoughts of doing that to children in the first place? Are you just afraid that you think that a person watches so much porn, that they exhaust themselfs out of every genre of porn..before you know it, nothing gets them off anymore. So they seek out different things to get off to, and then they discover lolicon or artwork of Characters. So they get addicted to that until they become too tolerant and then they decide to go after children drawings because it's the only thing they haven't gone to and then it escalates from there.
But how does that work? wouldn't it be easy for those people to just claim that "this character is actually an immortal 1000 years old being that just looks (and acts) young"?
Hyojin scared the hell out of me even prior to the controversies, when I saw her streams I just felt anxious the whole time, if you're making me feel that way and I'm not even in person with you then I'm staying FAR away from you.
@@thedesensitizedsympathizer5307 She's said she was abused all her life so maybe that's why. Of course not all abuse victims turn out to be abusers but it can explain her being a piece of shit to people.
The whole "CalArts" stye thing is ridiculous because many of the shows accused of using it were made by people who did not even attend CalArts. Some went to SVA and some did not attend art school at all. The diagrams people would use to claim every style was the same also had to draw the characters super off model to make them look even remotely similar. Couple that with the fact that lots of designs within each show are very distinct, the creators of shows like Powerpuff Girls, MLP: FiM and Dexter's Laboratory attended CalArts, and that if you took screenshots from each they would all stand out against each other, and the whole outrage starts to look silly. It's one thing to dislike how a show looks but its another to argue in bad faith that "everything these days looks the same" when its easy to prove that that's false.
That doesn't really change anything, CalArts is just a Term. Remember, we use to call a lot of 50s animation the "UPA Style", despite the animations not even being made by UPA, same goes for "The CalArts", it's just a word used to describe a certain style trend so like. Wuss the big deal, ya know what i mean, the schools that these creators went to is just, irrelevant and has nothing to do with what people say when referring to the style so i don't personally understand why people get upset when using the term "cal arts style"
@ I just rarely even see the “trend” people claim. If you took screenshots from Steven Universe, Amphibia, Star vs. the Forces of Evil, Kid Cosmic, Ok KO, etc. and you put them side by side, you would never think they look the exact same
@@diegoproductions7926 But they do look similar, not the same, but similar indeed! Except Kid Cosmic. That's the most unique looking "cal-arts" show in the modern day!
I remember Shadman almost following me in the early deviantart days, but his edgy style made me block him because he gave me weird vibes. Oh boy, did i do right .
in comparison to the people that were included in this iceberg, I'd say he's the lesser of two evils and "evil" is really stretching the term in this case since his art is just edge, it's not anything significantly harmful to anybody
I know its literally the opposite topic but Id love to see someone talk about that weird guy that commissioned tons of broke artists for the same weirdly specific scenes to the point where even though it wasn't explicit - people knew it somehow had to be absurdist fetish stuff so they stopped taking his commissions lmao. If i remember it usually included a blonde lady shopping for wonder bread and there were always themes of like the apocolypse/nuclear war?
OK, here's my Zootopia head canon for interspecies breeding: Just like in real life, hybrid offspring can only occur with animals belonging to the same family (examples: A horse and a donkey can have a mule, a lion and a tiger can have a liger, a pig and a boar can have an Iron Age pig, and a dolphin and a false killer whale can have a wholphin). However, many of these offspring are sterile, so when they grow up, they need to adopt kids IF they really want kids of their own. Which makes more sense than hybrids of unrelated animals like a fox/rabbit hybrid, since the sequel will introduce reptiles (I mean, come on, a FOX/SNAKE HYBRID? (shudders in fear))
Ok, you can find Lolicon weird. Trust me, I find it weird, too But Shadman drawing REAL children in EXPLICIT ways is considered child sexual exploitation material (CSEM) Lolis are strictly fictional, no real human has big anime eyes and a head that's bigger than their entire body. They're all stylized to not look like real human beings, no one is hurt when someone is drawing them, as long as you don't show unsuspecting loli images to strangers who probably didn't ask to see it and you kept it in your bubble, its fine. But Shadman drew MULTIPLE REAL CHILDREN in sexual ways and that is that is the most fucked up thing he did along with other things he did relating to drawing real people in questionable ways. He did drew the real children in a stylized way, but that does not mean the real children he drew AREN'T real. And oh, do NOT call real children Lolis, again, Lolis are strictly fictional and do NOT compare CSEM (where real children are actually harmed and traumatized) to Lolicon (drawings of petite and young looking anime characters that aren't real)
@Xeorboom well at least one of them isn't a literal crime (and I'm using literal in its literal way because people keep watering down the term pedophilia lol)
I loved shadman's art as a kid. He stopped uploading when I was 15 or shi. It never had any effects on me except maybe it made me want to fk a dude. Ppl that I knew who were into anime, hentai shit like that are now chris chan tier
The fact that there's people that refers Chris Chan as a woman is crazy to me, like, y'all people don't realize HE took that choice for horrible porpuses
Those damn purposes. But seriously though, Chris Chan is a man and the fact that we live in a society that demands you *respect* the pronouns of a literal mother fucker is insane.
Just a tip, there seems to be a the occassional audio pop (eg around 11:47 ). Maybe someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but I think you can avoid that by ensuring you fade in and out each audio cut (or overlap them) but avoid sudden silence between two audio clips. Might make it a little nicer to listen to. Either way, nice work!
19:21 this confuses me. I mean, the interpretation that she's sad because learned about the holocaust makes the most sense. You didn't enter Auschwitz wearing nice clothes or school uniforms. You didn't stop casually at the gate. You can now, however. This also lines up with the timeframe of the show. The pickaxe doesn't make any sense, no matter the interpretation.
I had a bond with her too, you aren’t alone bro. I’m still disappointed in Hyojins actions it’s so disheartening to go through watching someone you look up to be revealed to be someone you don’t know anymore.
Wait, I only have like 1 sec in this ? lol I guess youre saving the same word catalog you used on stonetoss to talk about me in another video, because gotta milk old stuff for clicks.
They aren’t milking you or anyone for views though?… they’re just explaining an old iceberg about infamous controversial figures in the art community…where are you getting the milking from😭
He’ll get to you in part 2 be patient
Goontoons❤
please touch me
Friendly reminder this guy is literally subscribed to Major Cloog, another very controversial artist
Being reminded of Hyojin's existence through an iceberg video is wild.
It’s so disappointing to me because I loved their art before I learned what they did
@@Weewoo988y'all how they weren't cancelled earlier years prior still baffles me
I still feel bad for what happened to Slazo
@@Weewoo988her art was mid anyway
Hey yall, was Kwite part of the Slazo hate campaign? I'm asking because of the screenshots shown in the video.
on shadman, tbh it really is oddly satisfying to me to see someone who made that kind of material(you know what) and openly shared it online and bragged about it turn out how he did, a loser on the streets.
It is good it’s fitting
Same for Dorontabi (😭💢).
did you see that Shinji ?
god and i cannot stress this enough BLESS
@@madmouse4400who?
Just from your talking sprite I can clock you as a former Eddsworld fan
I've been caught!!!
funnily enough not the first eddsworld style persona to present an iceberg
@@Ryychii good taste!
First thing I thought when I saw his avatar lol
Heck yeah
I honestly find it boggling how this video went from you average fetish material on DeviantArt, to Chris-Chan, to Ctrl+Alt+Del, to actual criminals still roaming the streets, to actual cruelty like Racist Mario, to the infamous Zootopia abortion comic. The internet is pretty insane, and quite bizarre if you will.
I await Part 2 and 3 so we'd get to more illegal shit.
Chris-chan IS a criminal and I dont understand why is he so high up in this iceberg .-.
@@WaffelWuffelChris-chan is so high up cause it's the most recognizable, hell they were even in news broadcasts, do you not know how icebergs vids work?
Chris Chan is a criminal though...
@@WaffelWuffel Do u know how iceberg videos work?
“A little bit of everything, all of the time.”
I'd love to see you talk about the animation meme community drama in part2, because OH MAN it's such a rabbit hole
The animation meme community's constant drama when I was younger helped plant the seeds of moral OCD in me I think
that deserves its own iceberg series
They should've put minus8 on the iceberg
I think one that could fit in this list is JM, a pretty talented chinese artist that unfortunately did.... R-18G things and got caught by chinese authorites
the sans fangirl niche in the animation meme community has boatloads of lore on its own
this the type of video to get like 800k views max and then never again
So specific but so true
Like the thug shaker ice berg
@@theduck7346 THE WHAT!?
Come on dude, give me the thug shaker@@Wickit774
I wonder why
I remember Puppychan, she should've learned that Twitter is a social media sight, not a emotional support tool.
Don't know she was on the intro pic all they did was have a different art style but real the Internet can be anything just not usually a very good version of that
"a pup's gotta eat"
“I have consumed it”
And yet some people never learned that
she went on to purposefully expose her underage followers to NSFW content and encourage them to create p*rn of her fursona. so she's a predator now too
The fact that john bob self-exposed himself for being a groomer is crazy because he was like friends with every single twitter artist ever. He collabed with them, they appeared in his video game, and he made a huge rise in the art community, but everything starded to fall and it's because of him, he hid his true colors just to admitt his crimes after.
i think my favorite lil fact about myself is that i met Hotdiggidydemon in person when i was 12-13. At the time he had a booth over at one of my local cons and he was really chill when i met him. I even have a signed commission he did. he’s now one of the reasons I wanted to be an artist. As messed up as that sounds.
That's really cool, I never had the chance to meet Max in real life but if I ever did I'd be so overwhelmed with emotion because his work was my starting point too.
What did he draw for u?
HE DREW WHAT OF EDD GOULD WHAT THE FUCK
I know i hate it
@@jazzratoon yep i have come to the conclusion he is pure evil
unrelated but i know what you are :33
@@FiSH-iSH homestucnk
Nah that shits fucked up fr 😞
Shadman ending up as a drug addict is pretty on brand considering his mascot is an SS officer
Oh yes, because of the medical experiments. Real and imagined.
@@septimiusseverus343 no, because most of the nazi leadership were drug addicts (including hitler)
@@septimiusseverus343 more so because of the fact that most of the nazi leadership was addicted to drugs including hitler himself
@@septimiusseverus343 more so because a big chunk of the national socialist high command was addicted to drugs (especially by the end of the war)
If I remember correctly author of Ren and Stimpy didn’t like calarts style and he made the term
That guy doesn’t like a lot of stuff…
Also, nobody should agree with any opinions the Ren and Stimpy creator has
@@phosp1083 but he sure does like children
@@etasjo You beat me to the punch. Man suuuuuure does love minors and scamming people on kickstarter
Not only that he also hates anime as well most notably downplaying Neon Genesis Evangelion
I simply call them the bean mouth style, because of that reason.
the fact that i recognize 90% of the names makes me feel seasoned.
“Seasoned” over internet shit award
I know 100% of these
I’m starting to realize more and more how F’d up my brain is from what I saw on the internet in middle and high school.
same, but try being an actual kid.
First time huh? 😂
@YanoLBPhuh?
It’s crazy, I was John Bob’s LAST commission, a DAY after he finished it, he ousted himself as a pedo. insane times.
What did you commission him?
@@sc3nes4uce10 a 3D model of my OC.
@@finn_4761 do you have a picture of it?
@ yeah, I have the .OBJ too.
Do you still have it?
It’s honestly insane how long Shadman was able to get away with what he was doing
The only reason he fell as hard as he did was when he crossed the one line no artist should cross less they get skewered.
He traced over and based two drawings on actual people.
This is why people need to stop giving “Edgelords” or “Dark humor” Mfs a platform. They’ll ALWAYS end up being p3dos, racists, both or more.
Khyle and hotdiggedydemon will always be one of my favorite "infamous" artists.
Based
@@bubbakins18 Despite max having his severe edgyness "say bad word = funny" past, he still kinda rocks with the new edgyness he rebuilt with most recent animations. Way better built up. I love it. Plus its not just edgyness anymore, it got more put into it than just jokes.
Khyle on the other hand puts his own randomness on his art, which i find amazing.
Each piece i see from him will make me realize something unexpected. You get presented with a theme and somehow it all changes when you look at a detail in the corner.
hotdiggedydemon is also my favorite artist
@@quimicalkirby th-cam.com/video/SYt3kFIFezs/w-d-xo.htmlsi=uNdlmSkrNY_RsmdF
Khyle humor sucks ass it's mostly just boring edgy middle school humor
chris chan and "high functioning autism" should never be uttered in the same sentence ever again. chris chan is NOT high-functioning.
I genuinely really do like Khyle, mainly because of how good their art style is, and also because they add little details to their pieces which whenever you notice it, it'll catch you off guard for how shocking it is
Yeah nah hes the least worst idk why hes so low in the iceberg, yeah it's offensive/edgy/inmature but like, people have done way worse things, hes alright, bit of a gooner tho
Knowing almost everything on that iceberg and thinking its common knowledge is how i know im online too much
I genuinely thought Shadman was dead or something, I was actually surprised to find out he's not
not yet atleast...
You're really really underrated. Can you make a super cut after the whole iceberg is covered?
Thank you! And yes, I'm planning to do that!
@@Ryychii Yipppeee!
My god you're so terrified of offending anyone or going against the Correct Opinions™ that you end up sounding like an AI.
As someone that's a NSFW artist, I'm always afraid of what people think about me as a person. My main focus was never really about smut, I wanted to make my own animated series, tell stories and make people laugh. If I do make my show and people look at my smut art, people would just call me a scumbag. Also there are so many things that people that can't stand about humor in adult shows, and things you can't say, I'm starting if I should still continue you on in this line of work.
You're completely fine as long as you're not hurting anyone. NSFW art has a huge market so if that's something you want to do then by all means go for it. Obviously, some people won't like it, but at the end of the day you should do what you want to do.
this is why my two accounts have no connection to each other
@@Ryychii"as long as you're not hurting anyone" 🤨ඞ
@@Ryychii>you should do what you want to d-ACK!
Max design pro being with all of these "people" is INSANE
Some controversies are more tame than others lol
@@Ryychiithis list has a random order, you shouldn't call this an actual iceberg. But still somewhat informative
@fupoflapo2386 it's sorted from well-known to least known entries. At least I tried to make it that way
@@Ryychii please do major cloog next even before the grooming drama he's had some other drama in the past(ex. the GraffitiAlopia drama speaking of which who you should include also)
@@ba6tatz I once saw a comment under a major cloog video that said something like this
"Major's fans loved him and now major loved them back"
Something along the lines
1:16 oh thats gore…. Thats gore of my comfort character….
How is that gore?
I think she means vore@@TM_Em0lga
@@TM_Em0lga Its a meme!
@@soosoodu What does that even mean?
@@TM_Em0lga You’ll find it on know your meme
Shadman is a vile individual along with his so called friends. Just a cruel and disgusting monster
Boo hoo
@@jepstein3207 least obvious rage bait account
@@theunkman still ate it up
@jepstein3207 "still ate it up" so pointing out a bait account is considered eating it up? what a shitty thought
@theunkman keep seasoning mf
Shäd isn't really roaming the streets. He still draws stuff on Twitter. He even did some colabs with Belle Delphine.
he hasnt drawn anything in years its just reuploads
@@etasjobury pink....
Trash attracts trash, I see
I mean green aura with flies attract others with the same aura
Honestly i love how well made this video is! You include the right amount of info and the editing + visuals are rlly nice to look at. The mic quality is also pretty good. Also love the stills you have!
If there's one infamous online artist I really want to have in the very bottom tier iceberg in a future video, it has to be Horade or Horadeart from Buenos Aires, Argentina. He’s not quite the most well known, but he's infamous for his private erotic roleplays grooming with female vicitms towards their underage OCs exposing his catalog of kinks and paraphilias(I was his earliest), his very aggressive predatory incel behavior towards boyfriends with girlfriends, women and minors (online and offline) for over 15 years since the mid 2000's. He’s well known for that Legend of Korra letter for season 3's Earth Queen episode that lied towards the fandom going after minors. What got himself finally cancelled on twitter on October 10, 2020 is the infamous commission request of his very first self-insert OC, Quiton Loomis, going after HellOnEarthIII's two OC's as 5 year olds and then the babies inside of them, then Horade sent him the drawing of naked babies "reference" that HOE instantly refused to do back in 2019 on a private facebook chat. Shuttermask asked about the worst commission which HOE strongly refused for fun, leading to one of the most surprising exposures to end off 2020.
I was very caught off guard by the acronym I thought you were insulting them and I got confused
I would have expected to see Popopoka and his blind girl art series here
Been looking for the name of that artist, I'm adding it to the bonus section of part 3, thank you!
@@Ryychii A recent artist that got outed as a werido creep was SynniBear03. Important people to watch for information are Birdie,KenyRZ,SophTheNeko and if you got the time Onlyplatonicirl , a stream going over some chat logs between Synni and a child that she groomed and a google doc. Most other people who made videos on this are just spectors or ex-fans.In short she's a groomer, a gooner, an unconsenting person toucher and a doctor disrespect of boundaries in gerenal
@@thisonlyexistforminecraftthe word gooner is one of the many gen z terms that have ruined this generation on the internet 😂 gen alpha has serious competition
there are three docs one with a kid named "Eno" , one with "Emo boy"(that one is the worst for Synni's case) and the one about how she was inresponsible with her discord server
I actually think he's a genius! His realisation that "wait... people like seeing characters in my tragic story happy? then I'll make them pay me to do it!" is honestly pretty clever for a small artist!
I love his artwork and I'm a sucker for a good tragic story.
As a person who wants to become both sfw and nsfw artist, i feel bad for the nsfw artists, ever since that shadman art, i feel like it created a domino effect for a bad rep for some nsfw artists am i in the wrong?
No, you're right. I'm somewhat of an NSFW artist myself and trust me when I say, we're not all like Shadman.
@@autism-chan2517 oh thank goodness.
Nah, the west sphere of internet artist has a bias against nsfw artists as whole.
@NOIDEDU really, why so? I'm a westerner myself.
It's just that adult content just gets frowned upon by a lot of people,
As with most things, porn is destructive if you consume too much of it
But I still don't feel like harassing somebody just because they have an exceptional hobby and are trying to get the bag
Also, I feel like there's a lot of controversy with smaller NSFW artists who think they know how to run a space but end up flipping the bird
As most communities, we're still growing...
>talks about soyjackDOTparty
>omg they got offensive!
>doesn't talk about the doxxing and swatting
ok then
this is heccin weird
They heckin doxxed people or something
they're on the same level as the uttp and need an investigation too
The anonymous racist known as Soy Wojak dot Party
>expects a TH-cam iceberg video to go in depth
>uses greentext outside of 4chan
back to b/ with you
Khyle being deeper than Shadman is crazy
Probably cuz it's like common knowledge at this point
Just people overreacting to kyle
Nothing new
Because that's how an Iceberg video should be, most known topics at the top, less known at the bottom
Honestly this is more a tier list of the kinds of people that show up in 20 minute artist callout slop videos. Gotta dig deeper.
I gotta be honest, the content of this iceberg and the placement of people on it is kinda shit.
Maybe I'm dumb but I just don't get the pattern that they're going for. They're not going for "least fucked up to most fucked up" nor "popular to obscure." It's seems to be at random.
It's not even an iceberg. The subject matter isn't something that gets "deeper" as you get into it. It's one red thread that is only connected by "questionable artist." You'll notice there's not even levels. Frankly, I only kept watching to find new artists of interest, as some just make content that piss people off...and other's are names I need to avoid for peace of mind...
The video is just bad. He intentionally or unintentionally left out details on the wrongdoing of many artists, having straight up false information, and worst of all brushes off hate crimes as only "offensive to some people" as if they don't affect real people.
Fr like why is chippledipple that far down
Dude, you’re so underrated and hope you well successful in life. And thank you for letting me know on Squizxy, I unsubscribed to that crazy lady 🤡
Took you 3 years 😂
@@helga____1130 I know, I’m kinda dumb 😅
>these incomprehensible woahjacks or something
Oh my Fauci they're so h*ckin incomprehensible
When you got to Hotdiggitydemon and started talking about how some people don't like him due to edgy jokes he made in the past, I honest to god thought I was going to see Mexican Sweatshop leading Rarity, only to get blasted away with the Steven Universe images
Didn't care for the Zootopia comic, but I liked your yapping bout it. Also I thought this would be alotttt more deeper for how fetish was brought up.
Not much to talk about for fetishes without getting demonetized lol. Things do get deeper in parts 2/3 though, stay tuned.
literally all I care for about that comic is the Arby's bonehurtingjuice version
Surprised the legend Creepshow Art didn't make this
I would suggest Emily Youcis and Mistystuffer to this iceberg
Damn where did TH-cam's energy go after they told flashghitz to change that thumbnail??? Like, I see even worse ones from supposedly "kid friendly" content farm channels which constantly use click bait thumbnails with literally cropped po rn or traced p orn, etc. And yet that shit stays and even gets monetized.
Dude Hot Diggidy Demon Was My CHILDHOOD😭😭😭😭
ive somehow managed to get tossed around so much in the last decade ive been on the internet that im familiar with all the people/phenomena in all the layers.
im gonna touch some grass and maybe draw something nice.
For me i know a good few of them but alot of them its i dont know the name but see the pfp's and its just an oh moment.
So much wasted art skills in one video
How unfortunate
the Edd Gould shadman art snapped me out of it and I genuinely felt so disgusted when I heard of that like ughhhh what the 🙁
Exactly and I hate when people excuse it going "it's dark humor" no bro you're just an asshole
I now hate him more than I already did
I'd take MaxDesignPro over all of them anyday
Banned on every tf2 community server because of troonjack decal award
womp womp troon
@no-disrespect womp womp
@@nnattonatto2063 womp womp
@@no-disrespect womp womp
@@nnattonatto2063 womp womp
Nicholas Federov - An internet guy who made very authentic and really interesting 90-2000s CGI style and primitive 2D animation. He was the one that made “The Computer” animation, at only 16 years old. He’s able to perfect the mood of 90s outdated animation by not only spending a ridiculous amount of time studying it, but also using era-accurate software, too! However, a youtuber named Chadtronic made a video providing commentary on his animations, which Nicholas didn’t really like, as he felt uncomfortable with his newfound fame, and left the internet for a while, settling under the name “Proxima64”. This is where my concept of the story gets a little hazy, though. To begin, Nicholas was alleged of being horribly transphobic and wishing death against trans people, as well as bragging about his ego and was alleged to have sent malware to his underage fans. However, a TH-camr named Sweguin talked about Nicholas on another iceberg called the Massive TH-cam Iceberg, which Nicholas got in touch with Sweguin and confirmed some things; Nicholas only acted like an asshole to impress the bad friend group he was in, as well as some info being outdated. Nicholas has sort of come out and reclaimed the dickish behavior he had in 2023, which kinda sucks, because this guy seemed kind of admirable at first.
Synnibear03 - An art commentary/animation meme TH-camr who was the roommate of another TH-camr named Birdie, with both of them being seemingly very good friends. However, Synni was exposed to have groomed minors, and Birdie/Jack set up a Gofundme for someone to help him get out of the environment around Synni, as Synni had been sexually harassing and groping Jack. Synni originally published an “apology” to everyone, before backpedaling and making claims that Jack was a scammer and focusing on how Jack was evil more than her grooming kids. TH-camrs like Turkey Tom and Kumo, the latter of which being Synni’s friend, made videos reacting to the situation and cracking jokes all the while, which is incredibly disrespectful. Kumo privated his stream, which was misgendering Jack and victim-blaming him while meatriding Synni. Synni deleted that video she made and straight-up left the internet.
Emily Youcis - The creator of Alfred Alfer, Emily Youcis was an incredibly messed up person; she started uploading animations on Newgrounds centering around Alfred Alfer, a mentally ill dog with a dissociative disorder who has the trauma of SA, and the first series, Alfred’s Playhouse, explores this really well. However, Emily started to soak up more and more right-wing ideologies, and she made the Alfred movie, which was more or less shock value for the sake of it. Emily eventually became an alt-right white supremacist, and was fired from her job as the Pistachio Girl due to her ideologies, and is active on Tiktok, as well as some social media sites that approve her hateful ideologies. This is a huge oversimplification, but some people have made much more expansive videos on Alfred’s Playhouse and Emily Youcis.
Chris-chan is definitely not high functioning.
With John Bob many of his collaborative works later on didn’t really cite the source for many of the characters he used in his works which really upset some of the artists of the characters, especially when they’d get bugged a lot about how they stole the characters from John Bob. If I remember correctly at the time of the JB drama, Chocovania was still on a hiatus at the time cause of the harassment.
Also it’s best not to call something a theory that’s been confirmed to be true, but thAT’S JUST- my two cents on probably unfortunate editing.
Chris-Chan is high functioning. He’s had jobs, can drive, has a girlfriend etc
Want to correct you, Chris chan is not high functioning autistic as far as I'm aware of. His diagnosis was made in the late 80s-early 90s and during that time autism was equivalent to having AIDS as it carried a stigma and a long history of misconception and stereotypes that were pushed by groups like autism speaks.
Take it from someone who is autistic, by the standards of the time Chris was diagnosed I wouldn't be considered autistic because I'm high functioning
Also btw technically he's not trans, Chris says he's a woman because he thinks being a trans woman will get him more girls
Lastly the incest thing is a claim that was never proven and was based on a out of context recording of a phonecall that was led by a sociopathic sadist bitch who admitted to getting sexual gratification from killing small animals (hampsters in a microwave) and sexuality assaulted her roommate and who admitted she was trying everything in her power to ruin Chris's life and drive him to killing himself.
There's so much I don't know about Chris-chan, and so much I don't want to know as well. Thanks for the clarification though.
@@Ryychii np, yea there's stuff that get overlooked or brushed under "Chris chan bad" stuff. I mean he's no saint however the internet made him the way he is and is an example of why laws protecting the mentality ill need to be more strict. I speak from experience also
Actually a person who deserves to be on this list would be a former SFM artist named "the informant" it's a long story but she was a former SFM artist who scamed, lied, (failed) doxing, suicide and sympathy baiting etc. I'll link a video about her and her behavior (actually she had a personal grudge with me)
Anyway, I like your oc reminds me of something from markiplier XD,
Oh no, he definitely was abusing his mother. He went into detail on how he would perform oral on her.
Chris Chan has a drivers license, graduated high school, can dress himself, etc… he’s definitely high functioning
@fractalcounty doesn't mean much and doesn't mean he's a high functioning autistic, there are people outthere who have really high IQs but still are unable to do basic things. Like I said he was diagnosed during a time where autism was not well understood even when I was first diagnosed (2003ish) it was still misunderstood not to mention in the past autism and schizophrenia were classified as 1 in the same (autism being classed as a type of schizophrenia before the word autism was used post ww2)
Idk if he was ever reevaluated (likely was for court) but if he was his original diagnosis would of been scraped also should note during his original diagnosis they didn't factor in alot including the fact his mother was an alcoholic during and after she gave birth to him and the trauma/abuse he went through prior to his diagnosis
15:18 ] i would like to add onto this part saying that drawn CP is actually just as illegal to own as real CP
But...why though? I never understood that. Isn't the main reason why CP is bad is because I forces children to be molested for financial gain and thus, the children have lifelong trauma or just flat out get murdered afterwards.
I don't see how drawing it is just as bad?
@@thedesensitizedsympathizer5307 because they’re children my bro doesn’t matter if it’s real or not. That stuff could eventually lead someone to do bad things to irl children..
@@YoonieToonie Really? Then how does someone get the thoughts of doing that to children in the first place? Are you just afraid that you think that a person watches so much porn, that they exhaust themselfs out of every genre of porn..before you know it, nothing gets them off anymore. So they seek out different things to get off to, and then they discover lolicon or artwork of Characters. So they get addicted to that until they become too tolerant and then they decide to go after children drawings because it's the only thing they haven't gone to and then it escalates from there.
@@thedesensitizedsympathizer5307 I'm fairly sure that if you're in this situation, dealing with these thoughts, therapy would be the best choice
But how does that work? wouldn't it be easy for those people to just claim that "this character is actually an immortal 1000 years old being that just looks (and acts) young"?
Hyojin scared the hell out of me even prior to the controversies, when I saw her streams I just felt anxious the whole time, if you're making me feel that way and I'm not even in person with you then I'm staying FAR away from you.
Never seen her streams. How'd she make you anxious?
I wonder what could'of happened in her life that made her like this?
@@thedesensitizedsympathizer5307 She's said she was abused all her life so maybe that's why. Of course not all abuse victims turn out to be abusers but it can explain her being a piece of shit to people.
@@Madjichen well you can't expect EVERY single abuse victim to break the cycle.
@@thedesensitizedsympathizer5307Never do.
The whole "CalArts" stye thing is ridiculous because many of the shows accused of using it were made by people who did not even attend CalArts. Some went to SVA and some did not attend art school at all. The diagrams people would use to claim every style was the same also had to draw the characters super off model to make them look even remotely similar. Couple that with the fact that lots of designs within each show are very distinct, the creators of shows like Powerpuff Girls, MLP: FiM and Dexter's Laboratory attended CalArts, and that if you took screenshots from each they would all stand out against each other, and the whole outrage starts to look silly.
It's one thing to dislike how a show looks but its another to argue in bad faith that "everything these days looks the same" when its easy to prove that that's false.
That doesn't really change anything, CalArts is just a Term.
Remember, we use to call a lot of 50s animation the "UPA Style", despite the animations not even being made by UPA, same goes for "The CalArts", it's just a word used to describe a certain style trend so like.
Wuss the big deal, ya know what i mean, the schools that these creators went to is just, irrelevant and has nothing to do with what people say when referring to the style so i don't personally understand why people get upset when using the term "cal arts style"
@ I just rarely even see the “trend” people claim. If you took screenshots from Steven Universe, Amphibia, Star vs. the Forces of Evil, Kid Cosmic, Ok KO, etc. and you put them side by side, you would never think they look the exact same
@@diegoproductions7926 But they do look similar, not the same, but similar indeed!
Except Kid Cosmic.
That's the most unique looking "cal-arts" show in the modern day!
Wait til you get to The Loud House fandom. Prepare yourself before you go research it for the next iceberg video.
And the Bluey fandom...
Being an Artist can be both a blessing but also consequences
I remember Shadman almost following me in the early deviantart days, but his edgy style made me block him because he gave me weird vibes.
Oh boy, did i do right .
Your opinions are flawed, I’ve already drawn you as a soyjak and me as a chad. (Someone please end me)
"unfortunately, I've portrayed myself as the sleek electric engine and you as the seething coal locomotive"
Postal dude done made another GREAT video!
Dont forget Khyle's "April fools" post
Ah a classic
oh hey nice video my guy ! keep it up!
No mention of the guy who makes art about abusing a blind girl
Popoka is not that bad
whatever pays the bills man
Last I checked, a fictional girl being abused is just that. Fictional.
in comparison to the people that were included in this iceberg, I'd say he's the lesser of two evils and "evil" is really stretching the term in this case since his art is just edge, it's not anything significantly harmful to anybody
“Born as a legend, grown as a villain”
really underrated channel wow
I know its literally the opposite topic but Id love to see someone talk about that weird guy that commissioned tons of broke artists for the same weirdly specific scenes to the point where even though it wasn't explicit - people knew it somehow had to be absurdist fetish stuff so they stopped taking his commissions lmao. If i remember it usually included a blonde lady shopping for wonder bread and there were always themes of like the apocolypse/nuclear war?
@@forthefrogs that's murrlogic1, and he will be talked about
@@Ryychii oh my god thank you!! omg I felt like I was going crazy :') I'll defs be tuning in!
13:48
I did not expect Shadman to look like that
Great video, can't wait to see part 2😁👍
the way i know all the entries on the list is fucking horrible bc i was a kid 😭 a kid online with no parental control,,
20:18 correction, the post wasn't deleted by backlash it was deleted because his lover wanted him to
I still can't believe the storyboard for the okko pilot reference FREAKING Chris Chan
I love that show
@@Xeorboom me too :3
Thomas Jefferson Miku binder gave me war flashbacks
I realized the more wholesome or cute the art is, the more demented and fucked up the artist is
That would mean that people who draw soyjaks are mentally healthy and well adjusted individuals which is TRVE
@@4ndr00med4 sarcasm?
@@mr.x2567TRVTH NVKE
not always!
@@deponq troon goon
Nobody:
Racist Mario: *Heavy breathing*
nusoicacas.... our response?
I highly doubt 0 people knew he drew real children like that. He posted that everywhere.
3:56 the gem that saved the sharty
Not even a minute in, I get jumpscared by Animated James.
The brony fandom has left me with scars that will never heal.
OK, here's my Zootopia head canon for interspecies breeding:
Just like in real life, hybrid offspring can only occur with animals belonging to the same family (examples: A horse and a donkey can have a mule, a lion and a tiger can have a liger, a pig and a boar can have an Iron Age pig, and a dolphin and a false killer whale can have a wholphin). However, many of these offspring are sterile, so when they grow up, they need to adopt kids IF they really want kids of their own. Which makes more sense than hybrids of unrelated animals like a fox/rabbit hybrid, since the sequel will introduce reptiles (I mean, come on, a FOX/SNAKE HYBRID? (shudders in fear))
The line between pretentious museum artists and Twitter fetish artists gets thinner every day😂
Ok, you can find Lolicon weird. Trust me, I find it weird, too
But Shadman drawing REAL children in EXPLICIT ways is considered child sexual exploitation material (CSEM)
Lolis are strictly fictional, no real human has big anime eyes and a head that's bigger than their entire body. They're all stylized to not look like real human beings, no one is hurt when someone is drawing them, as long as you don't show unsuspecting loli images to strangers who probably didn't ask to see it and you kept it in your bubble, its fine.
But Shadman drew MULTIPLE REAL CHILDREN in sexual ways and that is that is the most fucked up thing he did along with other things he did relating to drawing real people in questionable ways. He did drew the real children in a stylized way, but that does not mean the real children he drew AREN'T real. And oh, do NOT call real children Lolis, again, Lolis are strictly fictional and do NOT compare CSEM (where real children are actually harmed and traumatized) to Lolicon (drawings of petite and young looking anime characters that aren't real)
I agree with you here! Loli is weird and a little depraved but atleast it's not actual people!
...neither are good though
@Xeorboom well at least one of them isn't a literal crime (and I'm using literal in its literal way because people keep watering down the term pedophilia lol)
I loved shadman's art as a kid. He stopped uploading when I was 15 or shi. It never had any effects on me except maybe it made me want to fk a dude. Ppl that I knew who were into anime, hentai shit like that are now chris chan tier
That and shota are definitely flipping weird. But, as long as no one is hurt, then ok.
@veggsbacon1891 nice confession dude
The fact that there's people that refers Chris Chan as a woman is crazy to me, like, y'all people don't realize HE took that choice for horrible porpuses
Those damn purposes. But seriously though, Chris Chan is a man and the fact that we live in a society that demands you *respect* the pronouns of a literal mother fucker is insane.
I really don’t get how a famous but cliche “mario but edgy?” animation is a deeper layer than stone toss and shadman
@@Alecations Sorted by popularity, not by depravity
Stonetoss isn't a nazi and anyone who thinks he is doesn't know what the word nazi means
Just a tip, there seems to be a the occassional audio pop (eg around 11:47 ). Maybe someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but I think you can avoid that by ensuring you fade in and out each audio cut (or overlap them) but avoid sudden silence between two audio clips.
Might make it a little nicer to listen to. Either way, nice work!
>It's incomprehensible soy woahjacks...
oh my science these wokejack are very epic
>horse walks in
This is a fantastic video!!!!! Eeeeeee!!!!!!
evan doe soyjaks are based and wholesome...
Chris-Chan is certifiably insane
First time watching ya, and No damn WAY you used tiger flute from Y0 for the outro music, Good stuff either way my man 👍
No way he called chris chan a woman
the fact that shadman is near the top terrifies me
Not even 2 minutes in and i see art of my favorite character that i never wanna see again im gonna need a long break
Thanks was too lazy to find my favourite artists myself
19:21 this confuses me. I mean, the interpretation that she's sad because learned about the holocaust makes the most sense. You didn't enter Auschwitz wearing nice clothes or school uniforms. You didn't stop casually at the gate. You can now, however. This also lines up with the timeframe of the show. The pickaxe doesn't make any sense, no matter the interpretation.
The artist always draws weird offensive stuff so I don't blame people for assuming the worst
>le incomprehensible woah jack o algo
I remember going through videos and find squizzy's channel, thinking it was quite funny and forgetting about it until this hits dude...
I had a bond with her too, you aren’t alone bro. I’m still disappointed in Hyojins actions it’s so disheartening to go through watching someone you look up to be revealed to be someone you don’t know anymore.
Puffs on cigarette 🚬…. RCDART… haven’t heard that name in years
I kinda fw the Calarts style (probably because of bias, but whatever).