Rivian feels dang promising. I've been impressed by how dynamic they've been to keep the company alive. I appreciate what-from the outside at least-appears to be a stable and rational management style. (Which gives me the impression that they will continue to be so impressively dynamic.)
@@ed8018 They have quality issues though, and I know I wouldn't want a giant touch screen instead of a proper gauge cluster and, in the case of the Cyberjunk, rear view mirror.
I think it's the only real scenario for Volkswagen. Development costs would be majorly reduced. Like Rivian R1&R2, Scout is primarily a US-focused product.
VW has the *Scout* brand... I bed they will be badge engineered Rivians... I was worried Rivian was not going to survive long enough to build the R3... but if they can be co-dev'd with VW... wow... that sounds like it could happen.
Financially, Rivian is quickly becoming bullet proof. With Amazon and VW as major investors, but also customers, that's sales revenue too. I am damn sure there are things that VW can help Rivian with on the productioneering side. Sales outlets too?
@@k9killer221 VW already have access to similar technology from Xpeng and Rimac. Is the Rivan technology better than what they could acquire from existing partners?
@@almac9203 Is the software better tho? Rivian has great software. Also, maybe they want a partner in each significant continent? Xpeng in Asia, Rimac in Europe and Rivian in America.
@@almac9203 I believe that's what it is, that it is better than what they currently have with other partners. You can have the same feature, but how well and optimized the technology will vary by company. That's where, I believe, Rivian is far ahead in. That's why VW is partnering with RVN.
I said this a while back but the moment Rivian partners with another huge company they're locked in. They're doing such a good job on their own, with any help I can tell they're very promising.
Lol, yeah, how many billions did VW blow on Cariad? 1 billion for adequate software is a steal for them. Doubt they care too much about Rivian COGS either way.
Yes! Thanks for noticing. Just another indication of the excellent leadership team and technical team Rivian has, along with their innovative approach to automotive systems. They have demonstrated over and over that they are thought and implementation leaders in BEV design, development, production, and brand management. There's no doubt they will continue to exhibit these characteristics.
I want them to survive. And I want one. But I am still so disappointed with how Rivian really blew the advantage they had to watching Tesla's production experiences for 8 years on the sideline. They seemed to have ignored battery Innovations, Battery plant building, Money issues (Covid supply lines and crazy inflation/gouging not withstanding.) Ford dropped out, will VW? Who knows. The cost of these vehicles for most consumers is prohibitive. So was the model S, initially, I know. But how Tesla survived is the lesson here. So as I said, I want Rivian to survive it all.
My guess on that covered up R1 platform/price point is a Jeep body style vehicle akin to a Wrangler. Shorter wheel base than the R1S and R1T and even more off-road oriented. There's room for it in the market, and a pretty clear demand for them given the popularity of the Wrangler and Bronco. It also fits the Rivian Lifestyle brand better than an elongated Suburban style rig. But who knows.....
I was thinking kind of similar, but more of a Suzuki samurai, small jeep. They’ve got the retro thing down, right? Love their style. All the 80’s cars we loved are coming back in retro future EV’s
Too bad almost their stock has almost entirely pulled back from it's high at $18 back down to $13/share. I don't understand why people hate Rivian so much. I love them. I support them. I've sat in their vehicles and they are a QUALITY PRODUCT. Who f*cking cares what a market report says. Let's hope they succeed.
Although this seems like a relatively minor partnership at first glance, there are some significant potential synergies here. VW badly needs a partner for their Scout start up and Rivian could provide a lot of the platform development. It wouldn't surprise me if Rivian finally moves ahead with their Georgia factory plans which could also produce Scout models. Non-union factory!
I never thought it would be VW. I was thinking Honda would be a good fit for EV vehicles. Rivian could do the square look and Honda could do a rounded EV look, off the same Rivian platform. But the software issue is important also. VW needs help because of the many EV software issues it has had. If Rivian can solve that, they may partner on some EVs also. The Scout brand would have been a perfect partnership for Rivian to build at its new future plant in GA. They could share platforms with different EV looks to save cost.
When you were saying about the stock market being based on people's perceptions more than anything else is very correct. If people were being a little more objective rivian stocks should be soaring on this news. They've already partnered with Amazon to make all of their electric final mile delivery or whatever they call it, to build all their vehicles and have built a bunch of electric infrastructure at their distribution centers. Now 5 billion from Volkswagen...
So let's get that straight. An American car company that cannot make cars profitably joins forces with a German car company that cannot make evs profitably.
The stock experts were thinking Rivian was going to need money and assuming they would issue more stock to get it. So VW investing helps, pushing out the timeline. That bumps the stock price until the next Fox Business headline.
Ummm...why is no one talking about the R2 Pickup on that chart!? This is the first time there's been anything about an R2 pickup. They've only ever shown off the R2 SUV and R3...but now there's an R2 pickup? Like a Ranger-sized electric pickup!? This is huge news!!
I think they want to build the Scout and Amarok on the Rivian platform, Ford pulled back on using the MEB platform I would not be surprised if VW is now less interested in building the Scout and Amarok on the platform of the Ranger.
No, Volkswagen is from Germany and the second largest car manufacturer after Toyota. Multiple brands belong to VW, like Audi, Porsche, Skoda, Seat, Lamborghini, Navistar etc. Volvo was a Swedish car manufacturer, but got bought by Ford and then sold to Chinese Geely.
Even if they plan to go that way, succeeding is a completely different ball game. I hope they will but it is not easy. Tesla has been talking about it for more than a decade but they have nothing to show. Rivian is focused on becoming profitable and if they are having problem making money off of a $90K vehicle, competing with Chevy Bolt or worse yet Chinese low price EVs if the floodgates open, would be a lot more difficult. Affordable EV needs to be produced in large volume and Rivian has a chicken and egg situation with a factory for that. A truly affordable EV is one that is affordable to own as much as it is affordable to buy. Looking at R1 repair costs, Rivian has a long way to go on that front too.
Rivian feels dang promising.
I've been impressed by how dynamic they've been to keep the company alive. I appreciate what-from the outside at least-appears to be a stable and rational management style. (Which gives me the impression that they will continue to be so impressively dynamic.)
Would be great to see both companies bring prices down to more affordable levels.
Takes time man
Scale. It's all about scale, that's what made cars affordable in the first place.
To me, Rivian is Tesla with nicer vehicles and without Elon and his bullshit. If there is an EV company I can get behind, it is this one.
Yeah, I really hate all that free speech and saving the Republic and stuff. You must be really virtuous!
Absolutely, Rivian doesn't carry the stigma Musk has put on Tesla. It's a shame too because Tesla's are good vehicles.
@@richardfolden3860 LOL
@@ed8018 They have quality issues though, and I know I wouldn't want a giant touch screen instead of a proper gauge cluster and, in the case of the Cyberjunk, rear view mirror.
@@ericwood3709 I accept your surrender.
Rivian stock looking nice for the first time in a while! love to see it.
Volkswagen is going to make a new Scout suv. The Scout may be a rivian with a differnt body on it.
I think it's the only real scenario for Volkswagen. Development costs would be majorly reduced. Like Rivian R1&R2, Scout is primarily a US-focused product.
Elon Bros are triggered LOL
VW has the *Scout* brand... I bed they will be badge engineered Rivians... I was worried Rivian was not going to survive long enough to build the R3... but if they can be co-dev'd with VW... wow... that sounds like it could happen.
Financially, Rivian is quickly becoming bullet proof. With Amazon and VW as major investors, but also customers, that's sales revenue too. I am damn sure there are things that VW can help Rivian with on the productioneering side. Sales outlets too?
I wonder what Rivan offers VW?. VW already has EV technology from it's partnerships with Rimac and Xpeng.
@@almac9203 The video already explains this. It's the advanced electronic software and hardware integration and multiplexing. Not the car itself.
@@k9killer221 VW already have access to similar technology from Xpeng and Rimac. Is the Rivan technology better than what they could acquire from existing partners?
@@almac9203 Is the software better tho? Rivian has great software.
Also, maybe they want a partner in each significant continent? Xpeng in Asia, Rimac in Europe and Rivian in America.
@@almac9203 I believe that's what it is, that it is better than what they currently have with other partners. You can have the same feature, but how well and optimized the technology will vary by company. That's where, I believe, Rivian is far ahead in. That's why VW is partnering with RVN.
A major vote of confidence in Rivian.
It's spelled: Volkswagen....
Hope Rivian uses this to accelerate and scale R2 & R3.
Main thing is to become profitable. The risk of bankruptcy needs to be eliminated.
Elmo will be mad! lol
I said this a while back but the moment Rivian partners with another huge company they're locked in. They're doing such a good job on their own, with any help I can tell they're very promising.
Well the R3 looks a modern MK1 VW
volkswagEn
Let the great rebadging begin!
5:16 Drew having "certain" flashbacks😏
about another automaker.
The Exact Latest Option that I was considering.
which one?
@@marcdoyon8840 a pickup like telo's.
Or so I think. It' been more than a month, not gonna watch it again😅
This validates RIVn’s efforts to reduce costs. Of course Volkswagen wouldn’t have invested or promised RIVN if the COGS were way higher
Lol, yeah, how many billions did VW blow on Cariad? 1 billion for adequate software is a steal for them. Doubt they care too much about Rivian COGS either way.
Yes! Thanks for noticing. Just another indication of the excellent leadership team and technical team Rivian has, along with their innovative approach to automotive systems. They have demonstrated over and over that they are thought and implementation leaders in BEV design, development, production, and brand management. There's no doubt they will continue to exhibit these characteristics.
I want them to survive. And I want one. But I am still so disappointed with how Rivian really blew the advantage they had to watching Tesla's production experiences for 8 years on the sideline. They seemed to have ignored battery Innovations, Battery plant building, Money issues (Covid supply lines and crazy inflation/gouging not withstanding.) Ford dropped out, will VW? Who knows. The cost of these vehicles for most consumers is prohibitive. So was the model S, initially, I know. But how Tesla survived is the lesson here. So as I said, I want Rivian to survive it all.
My guess on that covered up R1 platform/price point is a Jeep body style vehicle akin to a Wrangler. Shorter wheel base than the R1S and R1T and even more off-road oriented. There's room for it in the market, and a pretty clear demand for them given the popularity of the Wrangler and Bronco. It also fits the Rivian Lifestyle brand better than an elongated Suburban style rig. But who knows.....
I was thinking kind of similar, but more of a Suzuki samurai, small jeep. They’ve got the retro thing down, right? Love their style. All the 80’s cars we loved are coming back in retro future EV’s
vw still didnt look at the 48v binder from tesla
5:16 what was that? 😂
Too bad almost their stock has almost entirely pulled back from it's high at $18 back down to $13/share. I don't understand why people hate Rivian so much. I love them. I support them. I've sat in their vehicles and they are a QUALITY PRODUCT. Who f*cking cares what a market report says. Let's hope they succeed.
Although this seems like a relatively minor partnership at first glance, there are some significant potential synergies here. VW badly needs a partner for their Scout start up and Rivian could provide a lot of the platform development. It wouldn't surprise me if Rivian finally moves ahead with their Georgia factory plans which could also produce Scout models. Non-union factory!
I never thought it would be VW. I was thinking Honda would be a good fit for EV vehicles. Rivian could do the square look and Honda could do a rounded EV look, off the same Rivian platform. But the software issue is important also. VW needs help because of the many EV software issues it has had. If Rivian can solve that, they may partner on some EVs also. The Scout brand would have been a perfect partnership for Rivian to build at its new future plant in GA. They could share platforms with different EV looks to save cost.
Nothing beats Cybertruck’s zonal architecture right now though. I’m excited to see what Rivian can come up with to compete with Tesla’s etherloop.
When you were saying about the stock market being based on people's perceptions more than anything else is very correct. If people were being a little more objective rivian stocks should be soaring on this news. They've already partnered with Amazon to make all of their electric final mile delivery or whatever they call it, to build all their vehicles and have built a bunch of electric infrastructure at their distribution centers. Now 5 billion from Volkswagen...
Does that mean we'll soon see ID 4s with software that actually works?
hopefully
Sounds like it!
Refreshed ID4 software is great. Useful, smooth and snappy, excellent route planning...
VW don't need Rivan for software. They have a partnership with Xipeng.
"Fisker" lost this opportunity, who's next "Lucid" , Cool video 😊
no lucid is a good product fisker isnt
@@rishinarang9966 Yeah it's a good product true but like
So let's get that straight. An American car company that cannot make cars profitably joins forces with a German car company that cannot make evs profitably.
Amazing vehicles, I’d love a R1S or R1T. But the front end needs to get slightly better looking..
Wow, definitely didn't see this coming. I guess it makes some sense, since VW and Rivian target different market segments (not direct competitors).
It will go up to $50 soon. Love Rivian car but myself is driving Tesla, bought the car when it first came out.
Might want to check if SEC enforced Trading window is open to employees before assuming there is insider trading going on
Funky acoustics / audio 😕 Better mic 🎤 / placement might help
Love zone-al electronics, whatever that is, help to suffering stock holders is appreciated.
They should rebadge the R1S and change the face to make it the Scout that VW has been working on
Zonal electronics sounds like what Aptera has been doing.
The reaction about the small truck is funny. Not good for Telo.
Eh, game on
I think VW also has a similar investment with XPeng.
The stock experts were thinking Rivian was going to need money and assuming they would issue more stock to get it. So VW investing helps, pushing out the timeline. That bumps the stock price until the next Fox Business headline.
It’s a convertible note, so they are now paying interest and diluting the shares.
You misspelled Voltswagen.
Dumb and dumber partnership
Ummm...why is no one talking about the R2 Pickup on that chart!? This is the first time there's been anything about an R2 pickup. They've only ever shown off the R2 SUV and R3...but now there's an R2 pickup? Like a Ranger-sized electric pickup!? This is huge news!!
*Volkswagen 😉
Look at Rivian’s stock lol. Watch it dump tmrw. Also, it’s spelled Volkswagen!
Nah bro it’s going to the 20s soon. More good news Friday
@@oscaravila6748 we’ll see.
Lol 😂
Need more trolls like this. That validates buying
@@deej628 👀
I wonder if this relationship would convince Foxconn to give Rivian a better deal!?🤯 or the reverse ha!?!?
Rivian is going to bought out by VAG and may be integrated with the Scout brand
No way homie googled zonal architecture for the squad. Huuuuuuuge W #DubYa
😭
VW is not a brand I like at all but I’m in the stock
They found their sugar daddy.
You can't beat them, join them.
Will come in handy when VW tries copying rivian w the scout brand?
I think they want to build the Scout and Amarok on the Rivian platform, Ford pulled back on using the MEB platform I would not be surprised if VW is now less interested in building the Scout and Amarok on the platform of the Ranger.
Is Volvo and Volkswagen the same? I’m confused didn’t Volvo stop with Polestar?
No, Volkswagen is from Germany and the second largest car manufacturer after Toyota. Multiple brands belong to VW, like Audi, Porsche, Skoda, Seat, Lamborghini, Navistar etc.
Volvo was a Swedish car manufacturer, but got bought by Ford and then sold to Chinese Geely.
Volvo is a Swedish company that is owned by China. VW Group is a German conglomerate. Completely different.
Desperation meets desperation
Great news!!!
R2T please 🙏
I dont think they plan on going more affordable. What we are seeing may just be a pickup version of the r2
Even if they plan to go that way, succeeding is a completely different ball game. I hope they will but it is not easy.
Tesla has been talking about it for more than a decade but they have nothing to show. Rivian is focused on becoming profitable and if they are having problem making money off of a $90K vehicle, competing with Chevy Bolt or worse yet Chinese low price EVs if the floodgates open, would be a lot more difficult.
Affordable EV needs to be produced in large volume and Rivian has a chicken and egg situation with a factory for that.
A truly affordable EV is one that is affordable to own as much as it is affordable to buy. Looking at R1 repair costs, Rivian has a long way to go on that front too.
@@Tooradj im not saying they will make a 90k vehicle, but I'm just saying they likely wont make anything less than around 40k
@@rishinarang9966 I agree.
Don’t FOMO