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Accidentally Taking Off with Wings Still Folded in Half
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In August 1960, a US Navy pilot took off from Naples, Italy, and climbed to about 5,000 feet. It was a routine operation-nothing unusual for the day.
When he leveled off, he found he needed an unusual amount of pressure on the stick. It was strange. The F-8 Crusader he was controlling felt a lot heavier than expected. It was also unresponsive. Something was definitely off.
At first, he cursed the crew in maintenance. They had surely missed something.
Looking around for the cause, he analyzed the control panel. Maybe a switch was off, but everything seemed OK.
That was until he glanced outside the cockpit window. For a second, his entire body felt a shock than ran down his spine. He was flying with the Crusader's wings folded up.
Keeping his head cool, he managed to dump fuel to make the aircraft lighter. After 20 minutes of dangerous flying, the pilot made it back to base unharmed.
When the engineers at Vought heard the story, they were both pleased and perplexed to hear that their aircraft could fly with the wings folded.
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I got Magellan on your recommendation and it’s rubbish.
Even more impressed when Stevie wonder pointed it out !
What a load of crap.
They got lucky the Tip vortices effect evened out the drag component and gave a bigger lift component. This would explain the flight characteristics. The ailerons not being effective and giving a sluggish performance. The winglets pushed the control sweet spot to the outside I bet.
I bet the engineers were even more impressed when the crusader transformed into a phantom on landing. 😳
I noticed that while looking at the thumb nail
Yes!!! ... Over and over again :)
Well.. its an F-8.. with the wings folded it looses half its wingspan, so consequently becomes an F-4 🧠
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@@jjed300 Possibly the best aviation nerd quip of all time 😂 Bravo
You would think “Check the wings” would be one of the top things on the pre-flight checklist
Hahahaha!!! for real!!!!
How many people besides the pilot missed this?
Sounds like it needs to be one of the first on the list, and the last item aswell.
It the plane captain was working in the 6 pack, he is not to blame, maybe the finale check.
well. just a simple glider pilot here: before any takeoff i had to check each mechanism on my wing like ailerons and airbrakes...
somebody messed up.
“For a brick, he flew pretty good!”
-Sergeant Johnson, Halo 2
I was waiting for ifr clearance short of the runway in an A-1 Skyraider
I was holding short of the runway in an A-1 Skyraider when the tower said they had vip transport ac that had priority for takeoff and I was blocking it from taking the runway. I decided to fold my wings to let it get by. Shortly after I was cleared for an immediate takeoff. I taxied on to the runway and began adding power for a rolling takeoff when something in my peripheral vision caught my eye. It was my left wing tip bouncing around. I stop the takeoff unfolded my wings and lived happily ever after. Guess that is why Navy pilots have to pass stringent eye tests.
Pilot: "permission to buzz the tower"
Tower: "your wings are still folded"
Piot: "permission to land immediately"
Tower: "negative the pattern is full"
LOL
👀 🤣
@@KoobLis100 p
I think there’s a saying that the f-4 it’s the proof you can make a brick fly if you put enough power
That brick could absorb a lot of damage and still bring the crew home. My uncle was 1 of them with a 3 foot hole in the port wing and outer 2 feet of it completely gone
I think it is more aerodynamic than that.
Thats also a saying for the A-10 i think is it?
@@aviationfilms5601 it does in fact also apply to the A-10 😂
"The F4 is proof with enough power, a brick can go supersonic."
Two big engines with afterburner.
Wings with canted tips.
Elevators canted down.
"Hey, Hot Shot. The CO want's you in his office. NOW."
Waltham1892 "Looks like I'm finally going to get to fly that cargo plane full of rubber dog shit out of Hong Kong." - Probably Maverick if this happened to him
@@blitzmakesunevenmm4323 The only thing you'd end up flying is the toe of the CO's size 13 boots.
I would have loved to hear that Ass Chewing...lol
Yeah. I remember that. 😁
My thought
When I first went into the Air Force in 1966, my first field assignment was at Edwards Air Force Base in California. My job was personal equipment specialist which means that I worked with the pilots survival gear and safety equipment. One of the aircraft that was being tested at that time was the F 111, also known as the aardvark. We had an incident while I was there of the two man crew trying to land that swing wing airplane with the wings folded. I never did find out if it was intentional or an accident, but the result was tragic. The plane crashed short of the runway. it simply pancaked in. After hitting the ground the plane started on fire. One of the pilots got out and started to run, then realize that the second pilot was still inside the aircraft, so he went back to help get him out. Unfortunately they both died in the fire. The squadron commander brought the pilots helmet back to our shop for us to rebuild so it could be presented to his wife. It was a sad assignment since the helmet was all charred and burned. I recall seeing the aircraft sitting in the salvage yard upside down with the wings still folded, and looking quite intact except for all of the scorching on the outside. It looks very strange, and poignant.
I don't know for sure if this is relevant to the theme of this video, but I thought I would include it anyway.
Thank you for your service. I remember the F111's as I was growing up here in the UK during the 70's and 80's. That must've been quite a duty to have to carry out on behalf of that lost crew. Blue Skies to both of them, Per Ardua Ad Astra, as we say over here.
@@restojon1 Thank you very much for your reply. This was my first duty station, and it was quite an introduction. I arrived at Edwards Air Force Base shortly after the incident with with the B-70 crash. The salvage yard was right near the gate when I entered for the first time, and the first thing I saw what's the wreckage of the B- 70 that I had just read about. That was very interesting duty, very very interesting base. While I was there they took the second B 70 bomber that they stripped parts off of to get the first one flying and then had to replace those parts to get the second one operational. The SR-71 was also going through testing at the same time while I was there, and I had the rare opportunity to watch both of them flying right over my house in formation. I was struck by how it looked like a Swan flying formation with a Crow, at least that was the impression I got. They were both quite low so I got a really good look at them. That B 70 supersonic bomber was one of the most beautiful airplanes I've ever seen.
"We had an incident while I was there of the two man crew trying to land that swing wing airplane with the wings folded."
Gee, I can't imagine how that could have happened.
Apparently someone got confused when asked if the wings were "folded" or not.
That's a sad but interesting story thank you
@@allanmerritt2151 You're welcome.
While driving my car once, the trunk lid popped up. So I know exactly how that pilot felt.
Timo - You're lucky because your car could have been violently pulled to that side.
I'm glad you're ok.
Had the bonnet pop semi open on my old MGB GT sports car, luckily there's a big catch so it couldn't open any further than an inch.
My brother had an old Jeep CJ5. Riding down the highway at speed in heavy traffic the hood popped up and smashed his windshield, LOL.
Maybe not “exactly” how the pilot felt…
@@roysheaks1261 No, I think it was. 😉
In the 1970-s the Navy safety magazine, 'Naval aviation News" described an incident of a Marine pilot taking off in an F-8 with the wings folded. this was in the "Grandpa Pettibone" segment. The pilot took off from a land base and quickly realized the wings were still folded. he declares an emergency, carefully circled the field and touched down on the runway. It was then he realized he had made a second mistake. He failed to extend the landing gear.
too busy arming his weapons for a strafing-run on the tower
“Oh my aching ulcers!”
"Engineers felt pleased that their plane can fly with wings folded"
Lol
A test no one dared to try? 🤔
An OOF but with more steps
Why not? We have a f14 come back missing a wing. And an a10 missing half a wing...
Fixed wing aircraft are extremely stable, with way more lift, than necessary.
My experience is with helicopters... They do not keep flying on sheer will. I can't believe we still use them, considering how precarious their ability to fly is... Except for the Chinook. Who is still very threatened by mechanical issues. But avoids the other bull shit smaller ones have to deal with.
Think about how many issues you might have had with a car, and still be able to drive it to the shop...
Helo can't park on the nearest cloud and call for a tow, and it sure as fuck is done flying at the smallest problem.
... Like a BMW!!!
"and impressed" compared to the plane crashing I am sure they are glad those are very expensive. My brother builds planes like that the wings fold up so they can fit on ships you can't even be off more than the width of a hair in making parts for them.
When I was teaching flying back in the late 1970s, there was a poster on the wall saying: “An exceptional pilot is one who uses his exceptional skills and exceptional knowledge to keep from getting into situations where he needs to use his exceptional skills to save his exceptional ass.” That having been said, although it was a boner to taker off with the wings folded, all credit to the pilots who brought them back safely onto the deck of a carrier in that state!
I missed that saying when I was learning to fly in the mid-1970s. The one I do recall is, "Flying consists of long hours of total boredom interspersed with brief periods of abject terror." The F-8 pilot wasn't aloft long enough for the former, but I bet he got his share of the latter.
That was a ground landing, no way you can do a carrier landing with all the extra speed needed and unresponsive aircraft.
yes, he doesn't become a pilot in the first place
Ground Crew: **Gets yelled at by pilot for "Poor maintenance"**
Pilot: **Screws up and gets praised**
Ground crew: 👁️👄👁️
the pilot doesn't flip the wings down himself...you know that right. it was absolutely the flight crews fuck up one so bad they probably weren't a flight crew anymore
No joke! In 1998 F-14 pilot screwed the pooch after takeoff from Cherry Point and they had to punch out. There was a safety standown and pretty much the entire base lost Memorial Day 96. We built the road to the crash and when the pilots showed up the investigators stood there and freaking applause them for like 10 min. I want to say it was the 1st female Tomcat pilot trainee too. I was fuming especially after two of my guy almost died when we ran into part of the fuselage hidden in the swamp and cut their thigh muscles down to the bone. Good times
I was always impressed when the tomcat returns with wing missing... Or that thunderbolt with no wing.... My kinda plane
@@mikearakelian6368 You forgot the F-15 with no wing.
@@theolschoolblues choosing only one link in a chain of failures to place blame is a sure way to guarantee the failure happens again. Ground crew obviously failed, but any pilot from Piper Cherokee to Boeing 747 knows to do a basic walkaround looking for inevitable dumbass human mistakes because the people in the plane are the ones who will die if the worst happens. That's piloting 101 and survival 101. That pilot should be ashamed to have missed something so obvious and fundamental as folded wings.
Iif I had a nickel for everytime I did this, I would not be rich.
I would be dead.
...and poor
"I would have a nickel, which is not a lot but it is weird that is happend"
Wisdom
How many nickles is needed to be dead?
USAF UPT does not address this much.
I did that to my paper air planes when I was a kid.
Yup added stability with a loss of lift
Oh man, my parents used to hate it when I'd use a whole pack of printing paper to make every form of paper airplane I could possibly imagine
Sounds like you where destined to become a Navy pilot. Did you? :-)
@@marcbrasse747 I can't spin and I don't like falling. I can fold a good plane though.
Thanks for sharing
Hard to believe a crew would miss such an obvious problem, even at night.
Not only did he land successfully but his aircraft had magically turned from an F8 in to an F4.
@Opecuted genius!!!
Seems like this should be part of the checklist
Rather obvious too.
there is a point where you have superiors ORDERING you to get sorties and drills done IMMEDIATELY and there is no time for checklists, this is something that had to change from he top down
You are assuming it was pilot error... Maybe a mechanical/electrical failure? Much more likely IMHO.
ground launch crew also runs this check they were sleeping
" My Wings are folded?. When I get my hands on the guy......."
"Yet, more than a dozen times, F8 Crusader fighters took off with their wings unfolded."
You mean "folded."
“Un folded-down” I suppose.
was gonna say this. 3:27
original comment poster please add the timestamp (see a comment reply)
Semantics! Let's call it "semi-unfoldered" then. :-)
Yeah! I'd agree it was a whole lot more than a dozen times.
3:30 "More than a dozen times, Crusader crews took off with the wings un-folded" Um... that's how it's supposed to be. Folded is when they're up. Extended is when they are full span.
F-14: "I can fold my wings to increase speed!"
F-8: *_"Hold my fuel..."_*
F-14 has swept wings.
It was an F-4.
@@roylavecchia1436 bruh watch the video
@@roylavecchia1436 it was an f-8 crusader
There are warning lights on the instrument panel for all kinds of things.
Hard to believe there isn't a huge blinking red one for "wings folded," especially after it had happened a few times.
Confucius say: Bird that fly with folded wing, may end up "Extra Crispy".
I prefer original recipe
“ *It’s finger burning fuel* “
-Colonel Crusader
🤣🤣
BAHAHAHAAH!!
Its amazing with all the stress and force on the section of wing that folds, that they actually stay locked in place during high G maneuvers.
'know when to hold em; know when to fold em'
" .. and know when to run."
LOCK S FOILS IN ATTACK POSITION!
Shields ‘ up , double front !
Guess what guys / gals, A wings folded CAT launch off a carrier happened to a F-4 Phantom in 1989 as well. I knew a ex Navy/Army guy whose buddies on his last carrier told him that on one of the very last CAT of the F-4 before being retired from the Navy, just before the steam built up to launch the pilot accidently hit the wings fold switch and down the deck they went with the wings folded. They had to keep the afterburners on the whole time around to come back for a trap. Amazing Airmanship.
The F-4 doesn't have wings to begin with. It's a brick with booster rockets.
It's the pilot's job to make sure the plane is airworthy before taking off. No exceptions.
I don't see how this is possible. I was a final checker on the cats and we always pushed up on the wing tips to make sure they were locked down. That aircraft is under several sets of eyes on launch. If the wings folded on takeoff or launch....that's another matter but the weight-on gear switch should have prevented that.
It happened at night. And I'm not sure how the gear switch applies to the wing config...gross weight is unaffected by wing config on the ground
From any perspective. That had to be a "WTF" moment!!! :)
Yeah, probably the Worse 'Oh Shit' of a lifetime! Yall Take Care and be safe, John
In mid flight the pilot must be like:
"did I unfold the wings?"
**looking back**
"Oh shit I forgot"
3:30 "More than a dozen times pilots took off with their wings UNFOLDED" I would hope so, considering that is the correct orientation.
During carrier operations or land operations, the air and ground support do the exact inspections of the aircraft from start up to launch. It's amazing on how many eyes are on each aircraft before it gets launched (add even more eyes on the carrier), and they still make simple mistakes. On a similar note, let's talk about how many military aircraft land with the landing gear still up.
I was at NAF Atsugi back in the day, and observed an F-4 on approach. He landed long and fast, popped the chute, and it streamed, and he wasn't slowing down. With about 3,000 remaining he added full power for a go-around. Over the upwind numbers the chute inflated, and he somehow made it around the pattern with an inflated chute. High pucker factor ?
because he couldn't release the chute?
Pilot, "Christ these F4's handle like shit' I'm never flying one of these again" Mechanic: "Try it again now, with the wings unfolded"
Pilot probably thought during take off "I must be getting popular, everyone on deck is waving at me to have a good flight"
I had that happen once while driving a taxi. Wound up my customer jumped in my taxi after he stabbed somebody in front of downtown crowd.
@@pcb8059 did you stop? Or did you find out later on the news or something?
@@hellosir4249 the cops pulled the taxi over a few blocks away. i stopped and jumped out of my taxi to get away from suspect.
Today is the day after tomorrow already
There's a reason for the checklist, and the checklist has a reason... Every line of the checklist exists for a reason... Aircrew always know this.
So no one thought to put a warning light on the panel that says "Wings up?"
I'm with you but thinking 'what was the guy doing or looking at', that cleared him for take off? Yall Take Care and be safe, John
I guess they figured the 50 or 60 Flight Deck personnel, as well as the pilot, would notice something so obvious
Yep, right next to the lights that say "Engine On" and "Windows Closed".
Natural selection failed & this pilot lived to reproduce?
It’s right next to the „turn engine on“ and below the „don’t retract gear until airborne“ light. Also you can only start the Engine when you press and hold the „ I brought my brain and eyes“ button for 3 seconds....
I like the fact that some French F-8s are visible in this video. It actually happened too in the French Navy.
I bet the engineers were curious about whether the plane could fly with folded wings, but never wanted to try it.
Yup, the test nobody dared try!
They knew some pilot would test it eventually!
3:34. The wings are supposed to be unfolded for flight. They took off with them folded, not unfolded.
pilot when he noticed the wings were folded:
“Oh no!”
“Anyways...”
Suddenly he understands why flight suits are sometimes called 'Poopy Suits.' 😂
If you want to REALLY impress me...
do it with only _one_ wing folded.
Lol
You’ve got a fold in your right wing!
There is a video of a pilot landing a plane with only one wing.
@@trentallman984
Also called "falling".😂
@@hashtag415 look it up, he landed it, it was at an airshow. It was the definition of Wing and a prayer.
The splash pic looks like an F-4 Phantom
‘tis
The miracle of fighter plane in-air conversion 😎
What they learned was the “lifting body” concept, that the body of an aircraft can act as a wing and create “lift”. This was before REAL computers and planes were designed on slide rulers.
You know when the wings are folded, they still generate lift right? Only the wing tips were folded, the majority of the wings was still generating lift
@@thegamingcat3202 The pilot said the plane "felt heavy." I bet that his next immediate thought was, "Oh, shit... the wings." "Felt heavy" exactly describes what you said.
But........ Aren’t the ailerons on those sections of wings that were folded? The flaps and speed brakes on the inner sections.
I have seen the effects of a pilot and flight not noticing that ALL the anti skid sensors hub caps were missing on a C-141 . Eight ( 8) brand new Thompson airtreads flat spotted. Flight complaint aircraft shakes on taxi!
@@thegamingcat3202 mmmm but we don't know if the odd angle of the folded tips cause severe turbulence that counteracts the lift generated by the horizontal wing surface 🤔
Apparently, it's an unstable situation in which the pilot needs max skill and cold blood to bring the fighter to land
"Mayday! Mayday! Mayday! Something's wrong!"
"Did you forget to unfold your wings?"
"Aw, crap!"
Its like what they say at NASA: "You can make a brick fly if you give it enough thrust".
^.^
the space shuttle is a famous example of a flying brick
The F-4 Phantom
That's not just saying, especially if you are using vectored thrust. Air itself can hit like a brick if you're going fast 'nuff.
Stolen
Ahhhhh that's terrifying lol what a great plane though, wings are just a luxury apparently.
Pilot: Flies with wings folded and still lands safely
Me: *God damn that skill*
That's a very US of A reaction indeed. "Remember the Alamo, Custers Last stand Vietnam, Somalia!" I'm sure there where a lot more.
Where they leave u to die if u can't afford healthcare-or make sure billionaires don't pay any of that nasty tax?
Erm, did you fail to spot the fact he TOOK OFF with wings folded???
You love that?.
We Europeans are cringing at your stupidity.
@@NiSiochainGanSaoirse I dont awe at the fact that they took off with the wings folded, I awe at the courage and skill they use to safely land with the wings folded on to an aircraft carrier at night.
Pilot to tower: "uhm, what about landing, should I ditch?"
CO now in tower: "you took it up in one piece..."
Me: searches up people being left by cruise ship
TH-cam: wanna see a plane with funni wing?
Me: uh ok sure why not
I just read your comment. Now, I'm going to look up people being left by cruise ships.
@@johnyoung9649 @William Linn Me too. On cruises I am always the guy with the watch, that the rest of the family gets pissed at for trying to make sure we don't miss the boat.
He probably found some writing on his airplane next day. "Must be airforce!"
The razzing you'd get from everyone!
That's just crazy. I'm glad the pilot was able to make it back.
There are three cases of this occurring, that I know of. Amazing, they all landed safely!
Pre-flight check: Pliot: "Got wings?" Co-pilot: "Yeah, we got 'em, let's go"
Kick the tires and light the fires...
Not sure on F-8’s not even sure on F-4s ( I worked on D models in Okinawa)
But there is a red plug that sticks up on the wing when the wing fold lock is not locked. Not knowing if an indicator is in the cockpit. But would hav been a great idea.
@@stevenwaller192 I believe the FW-190 had a similar indicator to show that the landing gear was down. Not as immediately pressing as making sure the wings were unfolded and locked (although I believe that there was an F4 that was launched with the wings folded, and managed through sheer power to land again), but useful in keeping the pilot's anxiety level down.
I'm impressed that you can make a 6:51 long video out of a 15 second story.
f-4 flying with folded wings , f 15 flying with one wing , man those desepticons have some skill .
3:03 The F-14s wings don't fold to save space. The wings sweep back to reduce drag at high speeds and forward to increase lift and maneuverability at low speeds. It's called a variable geometry wing. Saving space is only a secondary benefit.
I had to scroll way too far down to find someone else pointing this out.
@@drunk3n_m0nk12 IIRC, there's a "storage" position that's even more swept than the maximum flight sweep.
3:40 “unfolded” is said, when it should be “folded”; apparently a common mistake when wings and words aren’t checked off a list.
Isn’t it spread out or extended not unfolded; folded is when the wing outer parts are either folded upwards or backwards ? Either way we get the git of what he means unfolded or unfolding, it was just a minor spelling error okay ?!
I hate when some one talks about one aircraft type and shows another.
In 1971, this type of mishap occurred at NAS Miramar. The F-6 crashed at the onramp for I-805 and Governor Drive. The pilot bailed out and landed on the roof of a house, which contained a classmate at home sick (she was slightly injured by debris from the pilot going through the roof). I was 5 years old and counted dozens of fire trucks rolling past my school. Coincidentally in the same neighborhood several years ago about 1 block from where I lived, an F-18 ran out of fuel and the pilot bailed out. The F-18 crashed into a house and destroyed it, the pilot landed safely and was videoed talking to someone over a cell phone immediately after landing.
The F14 isn't really applicable for this video since it uses variable sweep wings instead of folding wings. They're designed to move in flight to change the handling characteristics of the plane. They do not fold vertically like the F4 and F8.
They're supposed to take of with the wings unfolded, right?
Glad they landed safely despite their mistakes...
Why the HELL would an aircraft be “allowed” to take off with the wings folded?
No clue for Navy/Marine aircraft, but USAF F4s were manual fold and lock with the only indicator that the was locked down was a 1" post at each fold point. If wing was down but not locked and indicator was missed by ground crew and aircrew the craft would look normal until enough lift was generated to fold wing. If both wings folded aircraft could go arou d and land. If only one wing folded the aircraft would uncontrollably roll to the folded wing. If the aircrew was fast on the eject the back seater could survive the ejection, front seater would eject inverted due to roll rate and impact the ground.
In the case of the Crusader, it would be most common to happen from a land base. Early morning flight. still dark on the flight line. they taxi out there with the wings still up. And oops! Normally this was not as dangerous as it sounds. As for most planes with the wings still up, on a long concrete runway, the pilot is going to reach the decision point, realize he's not getting any lift, and throttle back to abort the takeoff run. It's embarrassing, but it is a survivable screw up. (note this differs from the situation where the wings are in the down position, but not properly locked). Someone please correct me if I am wrong, but I believe the folding mechanism on the Crusader was fully powered. As the Crusader had a very high mounted wing. It was not one ground crews could reach to manually unfold and lock the wings. This differs from the F4 which had a low wing within reach of the ground crew. Now most manufacturers would say that you could not fly with the wings folded. You simply would not get enough lift when accelerating down the runway. But the Crusader was insanely powerful. It was just a cockpit strapped to a massive engine. It had enough raw power to brute force its way into the air aerodynamics be damned. It was essentially a missile with a pilot. Actually the more impressive part of the story wasn't that he got a Crusader off the ground with the wings folded. It was that he managed to land the sucker successfully with the wings folded. Staying airborn with the amount of thrust he had wasn't the issue. It was going low and slow to land.
If I remember this Crusader story correctly, the pilot in question eventually went on to make Admiral. And he would tell the story frequently as part of his lectures.
@@tonyv8925 Thanks, I didn't make the eject sequence clear in my post. Your right about the sequence. It's why the front seater(pilot) ejects inverted, my understanding is the rear seater (USAF WSO) going out first would go out at about 45 degrees from vertical while the delay for the pilot would put him out at about 135 degrees due to roll rate with the difference of lift between wings. AGL at ejection would not be enough for chute deployment and the pilot would impact the ground. The USAF F4E were manual wing fold, and took 4-5 people to safely fold/unfold. Where I worked on them we often folded 1 wing when putting into a hanger for maintenance. This allowed additional aircraft in the hanger at once. Going into the hanger was about the only time we folded wings.
PILOT : Why this plane so heavy
*wings folded
PILOT : NANI !
1970’s cars even have an indicator if the door is ajar.
'Damn ground crew forgot to unfold my wings again..."
How do you take off with the wings folded when you have 30 PEOPLE LOOKING AT YOU AND THE PLANE!
Exactly thankyou XD
I think it was a take off from ground, not a carrier launch, you have much less people then. Besides, what were the SOP’S back then? Do you unfold your wings during taxi? If so, no one is here to tell you you forgot.
I’ve heard of a similar event in the French Navy with the crusader. They made it back safely too.
Actually, I think the A-8 Crusader is an aircraft that gets overlooked.... it's got a decent combat record and was a pretty potent machine.
Military Aviation- hours and hours of boredom interrupted by a few minutes of sheer terror.😂
I never was a fan of the F-8 Crusader, but it has definitely grown on me as I get older.
You too? I always thought it was ugly as hell, but the more I learn about it, the more badass it becomes. It looks NOTHING like what it is. It's HUGE, has that tiny bubble cockpit all the way forward with the gaping mouth underneath, and a goddamn hunchback. Kinda like a slightly-frumpy girl that knows her shit about sports, guns, and (insert male interest here).
@@fkerpants 🤣🤣🤣🤣
And thats why we have preflight check list!
Pilot error? Why not mechanical or electrical error? Plus I suspect the wings re-folded AFTER take off, the catapult crew are not stupid? "Hey sir! you forgot something!"
Pilot forgets to lower folded wings; blames ground crew.
Officers in a nutshell.
I find it IMPOSSIBLE to believe that this actually happened. ALL the people staging aircraft, in the cat; folks on the island; the air boss, the shooter, THE PILOT, etc.
NOBODY saw fit to note the wings configuration and scrub the launch? Amazing.
2:33 what’s that sailor doing w/ his hands in his pockets 🤣
playing pocket pool
Practicing tying knots...
What’s more amazing is the Crusader turning into and F-4 Phantom
LOL yeah I noticed that too
I was a Navy Aviation Electronics Technician and one of our Dad Jokes was the complaint on the MAF (Maintenance Action Form) was, "Does not work in On For Flight position."
My father watched a fully loaded F-4 do this at Cam Ranh Bay in Vietnam. It was on alert in a revetment at the end of the runway. The scramble came, and the pilot pulled out with afterburner on (standard procedure) but never unfolded his wingtips. He struggled out over the water, dumped his ordinance and came back in to land. A week later, it was said that the pilot was flying cessna bird dogs.
"pull up" except it's "hey your wings are still folded you imp"
A pilot that is said to have the "right stuff", if he has great skills, daring, and nerves of steel, but he also has to have luck too.
I would think the right stuff might have been to do a flight check.
It should be pointed out that the aileron/flaps on the F-8 Crusader were located inboard of the wing fold. This greatly increased the likelihood that the plane would be controllable with the wings in the folded position. Stall speed must have been quite high though.
@@ChrisHarmon1 ~ Good point. but at least the pilot talked about in the video had good luck and sense in not making his situation worst.
@@scootergeorge9576 ~ F-8 was called the last gun fighter, definitely a MiG killer, it may have been a better fighter than the F4 Phantom, but the Phantom was for multi-roles and more useful for the Navy. In my mind all Navy pilots are pretty special.
@@martentrudeau6948 - The only Navy ace of the Vietnam War flew the F-4 Phantom II. And while the Crusader is known as the last gun fighter, the F/A-18A has a gun. I know. I was a member of VFA-305. we were VA-305 till we traded in the A-7B for the Hornet. And yes, Naval Aviators are special. their job demands it.
He basically changed F4 to F 104
In the late 80's at Clark Ab, Philippines, and F-4 took off and the wings folded up on takeoff. The back seater punched out, the pilot was ejected into the ground.
The maintenance teams had been on 12 hour shifts , pressured to hurry wing-fold inspections. That phantom's wings were not locked back down.
I bet his flight pants had to be thrown away after that magical ride😂
Amazing vids on all your channel bro. Keep it up! Mistake in narration at 3:34 stating that "yet more than a dozen times, F-8 Crusaders fighters took off with their wings Unfolded". Meant to say "still folded" I think.
Well, in the 70' I was in the military, my bud who was a jet motor mechanic said "the F4 was proof that if you put a big enough engine on a brick,it would fly".
3:30-3:35 "Yet more than a dozen times, F-8 Crusaders took off with their wings unfolded"
I suspect they took off more than a dozen times with unfolded wings. It's the folded-wing takeoffs that worry me ;)
Heard anecdotal story about same thing happening with one F8 of the Philippine Airforce, sadly the forum where the story was on is now gone.
They had a F4 crash at Clark in the mid 70's while I was there. Stupid pilot didn't do his walk around and it cost him his life....tips were unfolded but not locked. There is a bright orange locking pin that sticks up to tell you it is NOT locked. Unless he was blind, he should have seen it....
@@davidmcpherson9260 I'm guessing it's USAF pilot since you mentioned Clark. Sad to hear the pilot died.
Shit happens. It’s not about being perfect…it’s about how you recover from a setback.
Pilot: Tower, I could use some help up here.
Tower: What's the nature of your problem?
Pilot: Well, I took off in the wrong airplane. I could have sworn this was an F-8. Can you get me the approach speeds for this thing? It flies like crap.
Tower: Sure... Have you been drinking again, sir?
That's cool, I know of an Israeli F-15 that flew with one wing completely torn off to the wing root. Both just prove that with enough power you can make a brick fly.
Did these planes not have wing indicator lights in the cockpit? I mean indicator lights are standard for landing gears so I would assume that they should also be standard for folding wings.
No #! My 1999 Honda Accord had a dash warning light for every dam light bulb on the freakin' car...
Tom Cruise as Maverick leading his Naval Air Wing the Folding Wings in a new exciting out of control combat flying roles..
So THAT’s what the red flashing
“WARNING
HEY DUMMY
YOUR WINGS
ARE FOLDED”
button meant!!
Perlease!!! Because one cat responded that way?!? Again again again again!!! 😂
Speaking of the USS Bonhomme Richard, you should do a video on the fire that rendered it a loss.
The ship was lost?
@@MotoroidARFC yup the navy deemed it non-worthy of repair and it’ll be scrapped
@@kenyonworthenii7389 😡 that fire was convenient. Even if the ship hadn't been lost, she'd be unavailable for operations for quite a while. Did they find out who started the fire?
You are talking about TWO different ships. The BHR referred to in this video was a CV. The BHR that caught fire in San Diego was a LHA.
@@michaelparr3928 we are aware of that.
3:30 "Yet, more than a dozen times, F8 Crusader Fighters took off with their wings unfolded..." Don't you mean "folded"?
The voiceover guy is probably a riot at parties.
Taking off with wings folded is just another day that ends with “y” for me.
wait, it happened a doze times??? Was no-one responsible for checking that?
Just the pilot. Who knows every switch, button, lever, dial and indicator light in the cockpit. And has a complete checklist which includes folding the wings down.
And has no excuse. Which is OK, since none would be accepted.
And if something bad happens, the Captain is responsible too.
@@jfan4reva you are telling me no-one from the flight deck crew did a final inspection of the plane before lift off?? I thought they were the ones giving the go-ahead?
"inspection" because this kind of little detail should be rather apparent
@@louisazraels7072 Right! No one was like 'hey DA, Don't take off your wings aren't down!' IDK...
2:30 START Thats shocking in a less than 7 minute video.
Have some patience its only 2 mins
Yep... crazy... suicide for YT.
People subscribe and pay for no ads, so they make them part of the video as well...
Almost unwatchable.
I know Dark Docs etc need to make money... but this is ridiculous.
Reminds of the Larson (Far Side) cartoon, where "disaster is narrowly averted" when the passenger doesn't select the "wings fall off" switch.