DIY waste oil fireplace insert! Replacing the propane burner.
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 18 ม.ค. 2024
- I built this for a friend to replace his propane fireplace insert. I will post a video on the installation of this burner when I get over there to do the job. Thanks for watching!
Well, i built a super simple burn pot last night using some 1/4" wall 6" pipe, and a plate on the bottom, with an air inlet angled into the burner like you did for the 'anyone can make this' video, and holy crap, what a difference! Easiest she's ever lit, able to add air right away, and gets hot enough to burn any amount of oil i drip into it. Thanks for making these videos! I've learned a lot :)
Awesome, I'm glad to hear that! This is why I put the videos out! I appreciate the kind words as well. You should be able to heat just about anything you want now! Have a great day, and happy burning!
The fumes from burning oil are toxic. Must vent
Servirá para colocarlo en una estufa hogar ?
For 2 years I have been looking at different burners,,,,,
I think I just found the best one 👍👍👍
Thank you!
Probably the best design i've seen!!! And I've been looking at this stuff for years
Thank you!
I think that's about the best design I've seen yet
Know karl personally,
I have been kicking around the idea on converting my wood boiler for the last 6 months. Didnt know how to build a burner didnt know if i could even hear my boiler.
Then i came acrost this video and didnt realize it was karl at first.
Seen how simple it was and after watching all his videos and 2 weeks later. I did my first test fire of my boiler on oil and it works :).
I made a smaller version of this after watching......it works great ❤❤❤
Awesome, I'm glad to hear that! I will be using this and building an outdoor fire pit. I made some improvements since this video, so I'll show that as well. Thanks for watching!
this would be a great removable insert for my shop wood burner furnace !!! Keep up the great work .
That's how it will be installed in his fireplace. Throw it in when you need it and remove it when you don't. Thanks for watching!
Maverick would be proud of you 👍... initiate the afterburner!
Saludos desde Uruguay: muy buen trabajo, voy a intentar hacerlo., gracias por tus aportes
Awweee crap lol!! I thought I found my favorite burner design on youtube last week then I saw this!!! Great job brother!! THIS is the one I will be building to heat my shop with!!
simple but works ... great job Sir.
Clever design ! I still prefer a simple wood stove , less mess, no need for pressurized air , no worry of oil smoke fumes, etc. I also have easy access to all the firewood I need on my property.
Yeah, I agree. However it wouldn't hurt to have one on hand. Though probably might be better to get a mechanical diesel vehicle and be able to run it in that. Much easier than converting it over to run on wood gas.
Excellent video
Thank you!
WOW! First copy of the burner I did 8 years ago I have seen and you did it really well!
I'd almost forgotten about this one myself but seeing it again reminds me of a couple of applications I have I could use this design for. I'll have to go whip up another one myself
I fed the oil in with the air as per usual and the reason for that was some preheating when it got into the burner proper. Where you have yours on the other end it's not getting that warm up and where you had it running on the castle blower, those little smoke streaks were unburned oil. I would suggest trying feed the oil in the air tube or that end into the burner tube. I think you will find an improvement.
For your friends propane burner, if it's running black it's a lack of air. tell him to make sure the jets or aiy inlet mixers are clogged which I am sure something will be.
Great to see this design again. I used it for a large BBQ hotplate which was why I made it wide and it worked great. Always fun to tell people it was running off used Fish and chip oil.
Well done yet again mate!
I have previously tried to run the air and oil together and had meltdown problems on the air tube. I was running it in my boiler, so it would run for days. I might be able to get away with it in this case because he will only run it for an hour or two at a time. The burner was definitely nice and clean after the castle blower!
Very neat idea looks like it will work awesome
Very nice design 👍
Holy crap @ that bonus footage! THAT THING IS BLASTING!
Definitely putting out the heat! Lol
And please I love to see how that works out that looks really good
Best design!!! Will make like this and attached to oven! ❤❤❤
Nice desing!!
Very nice setup.
I think you could get away with a smaller air insert pipe and this will allow the fire to "breath" a little bit better.
I was going to use a 1.5-inch pipe,but I didn't have any left. I have some now,so I'll be tinkering with this design. I could go smaller if I have to. I'll post an update if I make any improvements. Thanks!
Dude, recycle a few sets of heat exchanger units from gas furnaces , mount them to the back of hole filled plate steel panels on either side of the flames add an air intake and it's a for real furnace. Cool design. I'm gonna try a variant to yours. Thanks
Wow, looking good, Karl 🙂
Thank you!
@@karlsoffroad8609 Looking forward to your next video.
i took some time off work and built a big waste oil burner for my shop, and have been having so many issues with it... i was using N/A and i think thats my biggest problem... i need to install a blower onto the intake to fully utilize the thing's potential... i could get it absolutely rippin hot and make the whole burner section of the stove glow red hot, but it was burning so incredibly dirty doing that... i made a small "injector" using some tiny air line shoved into the oil supply line, and was able to turn the oil flow down by about 1/3 and it burned just as hot. im definitely adding some forced air to this thing ASAP... theres no reason to freeze my arse off in the shop when i have this unit in there... i had almost given up on it too... but another thing, i replaced my old wood stove with this burner i made, and now im thinking about building a small device like this that i can stick inside the wood stove, and then be able to run both wood or oil... subscribed, and will follow for more of this awesome stuff! cheers!
This is awesome you earned a subscriber! I am going to build this for my barrel stove in my shop!
Awesome, thank you! I came up with a new design that I've never seen anyone else make, and I'll be working on that build for the next video. Have a great day, and best of luck on your build! If you have any questions, feel free to reach out.
@karlsoffroad8609 post your email and I'll send you pictures.
That's cool as anything on the net!! I'm going to make something like that!!
Thanks, and good luck with your build!
The ratio between burnable oilgas and air is not good enough in this burner to get a proper blue flame and complete combustion. You need to reduce the surface area of the oil to get a better fuel to air ratio. You can see that when you put on a bigger fan at the end. Since it pumps in a lot more air, you can burn off more oil fumes. It's a good burner, but it would be way more fuel efficient if you somehow reduced the amount of oil fumes.
Hey really would love to see this in your buddies stove . I want to try that in my 20 x 20 shop. Should keep it toasty. Want to build something that can heat my shop hot tub and a 20x20 greenhouse.
We never ended up installing it in his fireplace. I think I'm going to use it in my outdoor fire pit. I did make a few improvements since the video. Maybe I'll do an update?
Nice idea thanks 😊
I have a old crowne boiler that is to small to really heat my house efficiently, wonder if I could adapt it to something like this
really nice looking job man. cheers
Thanks,I want to start casting some aluminum after watching your videos! I will be trying to make some wheels for my generator. The solid rubber wheels get flat spots,they can't handle 450lbs.I hoped they would, considering they came with it! Lol,I'll have to build a melting furnace first.
@@karlsoffroad8609 right on man. ill be looking forward to that. the casting is good fun for sure.
nice design Karl, insert pipe sitting kitty-wonkus is not allowed, kinda looks like something I took off the ol`dodge exhaust... smiles...
It's FANTASTIC ! ! ! I was just about to put a comment up while the video was running saying you may want to get more air into the system and even thought about suggesting a bouncy castle blower and you are one step ahead of me.! Yep I could see the blue flames inside the chamber, pity the camera angle wasn't a bit more over but hell yehh what a machine you have built. It looks incredible with on the lower setting and that would suit many peoples needs. I'm trying to think of how it could be installed as a heater so you could see the flames in action behind glass maybe or in a kind of fire place. Plus of course if you want to give it some adrenalin it could be used as a very useful burner for melting all kinds of stuff. It could do with making sure that inner pipe can be removed for cleaning as even though you can burn most of the clinker if you put it on the nuclear setting but you will get some hard dust residue after a while. Maybe have the inner pipe on some sort of flange that bolts on instead of welding it? The quality of the entire build though is absolute top job!
I'll cut it off,clean it, and weld it back on! Lol
Good job bro
Thank you!
Ur a true talent my man. Been fighting with my oil burner for a bit not wanting to cooperate. You've definitely given me a new idea. Thanks and God bless. Stay warm
Thanks! What kind of problems are you having? I might be able to help. I have quite a few videos about different burners. I still have quite a few designs I'll be building as well. Let me know if there is anything I can help with!
My main issue is getting the body of the heater hot. I've discovered that the blower that pushes the air out into the shop completely drains it. I've recently stopped using it and went took the outside body off of it and used it as radiant heat with a box fan. It seemed to help. It's on my channel if you would like to see it run. Like u said we gotta learn to see what it likes and don't like. I really like this setup you did. Only thing I'm curious about is how do we plan to clean it when it comes time for it? It's seems very efficient and would possibly like to do it for mine.
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@karlsoffroad8609 you may see something I don't. It did pretty well in the with the weather in the 20 and up degrees but si ce we have had single digits and negative windchill it doesn't seem like it's performing like it think it should
@bluef2501989 ,I just dumped it upside down, and the ash fell right out. I think the burner you want is a few videos back. This one is definitely efficient, but if your stove is cooling down, you'll need more heat from the burner. I had the same stove you have once upon a time, and I really had to put the boots to her to get good heat. I was using wood back then. Do you have the stove blower on a thermostat attached to the fire box? Mine did, but I ended up bypassing that for more heat output. Check out the video titled ,Anyone can build this. That should get her hot!
The propane was burning black soot because it needed air. An air entrainment valve would fix that
Im gonna diy it 😎 thanx bro the best 👌 one
Thank you!
@karlsoffroad8609 what is diameter of 2 pipe ??
@shadi.y , the outside pipe is 3 inch,and the inner pipe is 1.75 inch.
Nice good job sir😊new friend from the Philippines ❤ Done subscribed 👍
Thank you!
Great looking, but is this cleanable? Knock it out and fish around with a bend wire and a brush maybe? Have you tired to clean it yet?
I just turned it upside down and dumped the ash out. You could scrape it if you needed to. The slot is fairly large. I just tapped it on the ground a few times and dumped it in the garbage can.
What about taking a small turbo from the exhaust to provide your air flow?
You'd still have to spin the turbo with something. I don't think it would have anywhere near enough draw to get it spooled up.
WHAT!? you didn't use the eye-crometer for the holes that you drilled?🤨
Great working burner.
Lol,no,I went with a traditional measuring device!
We had our kids’ school cancel mid day a bit ago and they made all the parents come get the kids and had the busses running during the most dangerous part of the blizzard. When school was supposed to be over the roads were clear and it was barely snowing.
Same thing that happened here. I don't mind driving in it,but a lot of people should just stay home when it's bad out!
Nice build ! You gonna run it in waste oil ? Hope it does not clog up because it may be hard to clean
It was running on waste oil in the video. I just dumped the ash out afterward. I can get in there to scrape it out through the slot if needed.
Definitely a great design! Everything still going good on your home boiler this heating season?
Yes,it's -10 this morning and still nice and toasty warm! I have my shop at 80 and the house at 72,wouldn't even know it's cold out! Lol
I do have a question about waste oil... how do you separate or filter your waste oil? There's been 3x now where I've collected waste oil from a business, and the first few gallons that i collect are no good (stuff from the bottom of the barrel or tote) and i end up stalling out my burner, and having to clean it out, run the oil from my reservoir into another receptical until i get what looks like good black oil again, then try to restart my burner. I end up spending about an hour dealing with it every time it happens, which ends up costing me shop time. Ive got a 55 gallon drum i filter everything into (run it through a fine mesh screen with shop towels to pull out dirt and debris) then it goes into a water separator on the output of the drum that i fill 1 gallon jugs from to fill my reservoir. I don't have any additional filtration, and 90% of the time, im fine, but there have been 3x now that I've been burned hahaha. When i collect from businesses, i tend to pull about 40 gallons at a time, and its sometimes only the first 2 or 3 gallons that are mixed with something that doesn't burn...
I don't filter it at all for my gravity fed burners. That's why they sizzle and flare up quite a bit. I do filter the oil when I pump it,but only for debris, I still burn whatever else goes through the line. I get quite a bit of coolant in my oil,but the burner just burns a bit sporadic as it burns through it. I'll be posting a video this week showing that exact situation. I've only had one time in three years of burning waste oil where the burner actually went out. The last 300 gallons I picked up have been some of the most contaminated and nasty oil I've ever used. Lol, it still burns,just a bit cranky!
@@karlsoffroad8609 one of the places i gather oil from is a tire shop, and they use beet juice for ballast in tires. back when i worked there, i set up a tote for collecting waste oil, because we had a steel barrel before, and it would overflow constantly haha. i have ran beet juice through my burner 3 times now :P it boils like sugar, then turns rock hard. literally have to wait till everything cools enough to handle, then chisel the stuff off everything haha! ive burned coolant contaminated oil before, it just makes a weird sizzle with some little flashy flames and keeps going. i run my burner pretty hot, as my shop doesnt have insulation but it does have plenty of air gaps haha! ill be curious to see what you do for debris filtering. i drilled a bunch of holes in a 5 gallon bucket, put some shop towels around it, then backed it with some of that fine mesh. was a pain to set up, and i only got about 14 gallons through it before it clogged, so i stopped hahaha! need to come up with a better way to filter it :P before i did that though, id end up with pine needles and small leaves stuck in my supply line valve haha! havent had that issue since thankfully :) just gotta streamline the process now
@@analog56x,I'm in the process of editing, so I should have the video up by Thursday night or Friday morning. I had the same problems with my oil before I came up with what I'm using now. I can filter around 600 gallons, sometimes way more, if I let it settle. I will include part numbers as well to the parts I'm using.
@@karlsoffroad8609 awesome! I cant wait, cheers
Nice design. Hows the smell of burning oil? Im interested.
There isn't much of an odor. Similar to a modern vehicle running, if it's burning clean.
I like this burner most of all. Thanks for all the specs. What? Where? About the small blower? And too cfm if you know that one. Thanks
The small blower is a Dayton 1TDN7A. It's 50 CFM and a very low power draw .22 amps, which equals out to about 20 watts at 120 volts. I think I am actually achieving over unity! Lol
@@karlsoffroad8609 thanks for the info. I’m thinking about making this style burner and put it in a salamander style heater. Something for quick heat when I’m only going to be in the shop for two or three hours. My wood stove takes an hour to get humming and burns for four or more hours and a lot of times is just to damn much heat. I live in East Texas a lot of the time it’s chilly not cold if that makes sense.
@nickd5943 ,should work great for that. Quick heat and quick shutdown! I'm in the thumb of Michigan, so cold all the time! Lol
So I can use the old oil from my car for this in my shop? Do I need to add diesel?
I just use a little diesel to light it,after that pure oil.
Does the oil feed in to the inner tube, or the outer tube???
The outer tube.
Without sound, boys…. Your thing goes in like this after you get married. 😂😂😂😂
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Very nice! Are you concerned that it will eventually coke up and need to be cleaned?
Thank you! I'm not really concerned about that. I can have another one on standby, just in case. I have about $15 invested.
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I run my own heavy equipment repair business and currently heat my shop with the waste oil it generates. It burns clean and puts out plenty of heat, but needs a lot of cleaning and fiddling around with. I think your forced air design will run cleaner for longer. My problem is I get everything from gear oil to contaminated gasoline in my storage tanks, so I'm hunting for a true multi fuel burner that will burn really clean.
@paulfay357,I run everything, including water and coolant through my burners. I have to clean about every 24 hours. Check out the burner in my outdoor boiler. Heats my house and my shop. It's titled "How I heat my home for Free " about 10 videos back. I can let that run for 48 hours straight before it needs to be cleaned. I usually do it every morning after my coffee. That's why I'm in my pajamas! Lol
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I'll do it. Appreciate the advice. Right now I'm running a naturally aspirated burner inside an old wood furnace. I've noticed that when the fresh air going in reaches zero or below, the burner plugs up by lunch and I start getting smoke out the chimney. I think the setup you have for your house developes the heat needed to burn that sh#t up ..lol
24 hours between clean outs would be more than adequate for me. Maybe one of these days, Santa Claus will bring me some insulation for my shop so that I don't need 300,000 BTUs to get the dang thing above freezing in the winter.
Can you provide a parts list, and do you think this would work in a 55 gallon drum for safety?
Made this one... my fuel is used cooking oil disposed by restaurants.
add a water mist the fuel will burn cleaner you will have o emissions out the exhaust
Got a challenge for ya.. wise way gravity feed pellet stove. Can you make a burner that would work in that stove? If so I would buy it. TIA
I'll look up the stove and see if I can. Thanks for the challenge!
How's the oil getting in there?
Through the copper line at the right side of the burner. Gravity fed from a 5 gallon bucket with a ball valve and a homemade sight glass. I show the oil feed setup in a previous video, as simple as it gets. I would recommend a needle valve for more precise regulation.
Where do you get the oil from, brother? I don't see the oil pipe
I pump the local oil change shop and local parts stores. They keep me full almost always. I hope that's what you are asking? Lol
@@karlsoffroad8609 This is not what I mean, brother....I did not see how you install the oil line that feeds the burner with oil, how to weld it, and how it looks from the inside.
@azadwlat8359 ,it just sits in a .375 hole drilled through the end of the pipe on the far right of the burner. Small. 375 inch copper line gravity fed from a 5 gallon bucket.
is your friends propane burner set up for natural gas? if so he needs to change the jets to propane if they are natural gas jets it will burn extremely sooty
No,it's an outdoor fire feature. He built a custom fireplace to put it in. He only uses it once in a while.
What about the ash and cleaning it out? Must be a nightmare.
I just turn it upside down and tap it a few times. I haven't had it get any build-up stuck yet. I will do an update video and show how it's holding up. Thanks for watching!
You use about 1/2 gallon of oil per hour ? If so, thats 12 gallons per day running fulltime in cold winter months. 360 gallons per month x3 ..thats alot of used oil. Id guess the 1 big positive of this system, is alot less work invovled , as far as wood stove, and splitting/cutting wood.
I can pump 300 gallons in about 30 minutes, I get it free,and I have an unlimited supply. I don't have access to wood for less than $100/face chord in my area. I also got tired of splitting and stacking, usually handling the wood at least twice before it gets burned, so that's why I heat with waste oil. I burned wood for 15 years and finally had enough! 😆
Relax bro propane torch
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MKe sure it's legal to burn waste oil in your state first. It's illegal in nys to burn used oil
Definitely legal in Michigan! Almost every shop in town and surrounding areas have a waste oil burner for heating. That's an excellent point for anyone watching, though! Thank you,and I'll be sure to include that in future videos!
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