As a Pistons fan I always sit up late nights sometimes thinking damn what if we Drafted Melo we could’ve won at least two or three more rings! Hell we could've took Bosh or even Wade too!
Not just Melo though ... If the Pistons draft Bosh, they probably build something just as special. An athletic 2-way stretch 4 isn't anything to sneeze at, ijs.
@@samgunz1 damn thats right , they got him during the season ! I forgot and idk Bosh was decent yr 1 but he wasnt enough to pass up on Sheed at that point , it can go either way tho
Larry Brown wouldnt have played him, like ppl forget this dude had an issue with Jalen Rose in Indiana and was hellla strict/off some powertrip sh*t. Look at AI in philly - dude had to be a generational guard for that team to work.
Without Melo, they won the chip in '04, went to game 7 finals in '05, then the ECF until '08. With Melo, they win in '04, win in '05, likely beat Miami and Dallas in '06 for a 3-Peat, beat Cleveland in '07, and Ben Wallace probably stays because of 3 chips instead of 1, maybe pull out one last chip in '07 against the Spurs, but could also lose, and then probably lose in '08 against Boston due to the aged core. If Melo joins the Pistons and the Sheed trade is still done, he'd have 3 chips, maybe even 4
That is not what he said bruh. . he said he remembered one time, in the locker room after they won, seeing Melo was sad and he asked why, he said cuz he didn't get his 30 still.. not that he didn't care if he won or not as long as he got 30 smh man what is wrong with y'all ? y'all weird making up stuff
Great insight! I always thought it was stupid of the Knicks to amnesty Chauncey after that first season, and it came back to bite them in the ass very quickly!!! Smh
Bron wasn’t anyone those times. That was still carrying Kobe’s bags, TMac’s and even AI’s bags after losing games to them. Who tf he was beating in the 2000s? 😂
@@biblereadings7617 Bron had 25 straight pts against those same guys lol. Melo for sure wasn’t stopping Bron anymore than Tayshawn Prince couldn’t
@@travieetreproductions943 I never said Bron was stopping Melo lol. I’m saying nothing would’ve changed because Lebron still would’ve went off anyway against Detroit
@@Geeandrezzi read the op again. It has Melo hypothetically on Detroit’s team you clearly said nobody stopping Bron in Detroit. Now you back tracking? lol
What people forget is rashad Wallace wasnt on that team yet . He was traded mid season , so in all likelihood, the trade doesn’t happen if they have Melo , he would’ve been a trade asset
yeah but I’m pretty sure Rasheed’s trade value was low asf due to his off-court issues/arguing with refs, I don’t think Detroit actually traded anybody of major value irl but I may be remembering wrong
Nah…Pistons needed Sheed more than Melo at that point. When melo came into the league he was not considered a 4. He became a 4 because the league went small ball after ‘13 or so
Biggest draft what ifs next to if the rockets would have accepted the blazers proposed trade in 1984 offering Clyde Drexler and the #2 pick for Ralph Sampson. getting Dream, Jordan and Clyde on rookie contracts together
Brons legacy wouldn't exist tho he'd be in melos shoes currently if melo would have went to Detroit. You don't understand the pistons beat in 5 or 6 games probably arguably the best on paper NBA team ever assembled. Melos on that team Detroit's 3 peating maybe even a 4 peat melon takes rook of the year and honestly his legacy would have probably been set up as "goat" status. LeBron would have just been another super star. Crazy the butterfly affect that happens from one terrible draft pick at Marko..
@@fishordietv6614 we watched and we saw Melo, those vets would have faded out and Melo just ain't talented enough to run a conference, dudes a bucket but that's about all he ever was. Bron been busting his ass since high school on a stacked team don't forget that
Bron my favorite player but this got me thinking it was Scripted for Bron the whole time. Melo definitely deserved that ROY. That’s why most nba players still don’t give lebron the respect they give Kobe and Mike. They know he was given that position.
Now explain the rest of melo career after his rookie year. Just like billups said when he was publicly tearing melo down when he couldn't get a job in the NBA he cared more about scoring a bunch of points and losing than scoring less and winning. He had one western conference finals appearance and couldn't get it done. He had no regular season MVP and definitely didn't win any jewelry. Yeah they scripted it for Bron to have a losing finals record 😂😂😂😂
He wasn't even a threat at the time. He was saying lebron wouldn't have beat them when he finally did in 07. In 03 04 05 06 he wasn't a threat to Pistons
Had the Darko draft worked what the nba has now would have happened 10 years sooner. I think Stern made a play and figured if it failed “hey, it’s just the Pistons”.
Basketball wise arguably the craziest offseason in Detroit basketball since I’ve been alive once Memphis lost the lottery and the pick went 2 man still a crazy Dumars is the worst GM in NBA history no question
Now he says melo was a great teammate I'll leave this here. Melo's selfish style of play was once again put in the national spotlight when former running mate Chauncey Billups claimed that scoring 30 points a game "meant too much" to him, and that he would be upset after wins in which he didn't score a ton of points.
It may have been different with melo under some real vets to show him the game and how to work his game .. leadership matters for young guys..you only learn how to lead properly if you first been led properly. In Denver who was Melos leadership
Melo was great... on offense. With the way he behaved his entire career, the idea that Melo would have accepted a defense first approach, and the level of effort required by the coach and the team in the 2004 Pistons is laughable to me.
Put your bias aside and really go watch dever melo. Wit billups melo played defense. Do yo research on who got switched on to kobe in playoffs and who kobe said defended him best 😂😂😂
You must wasn't around during this time. Melo and bron was in the same draft class 😂😂. Lebron beat the pistons after they lost Ben Wallace and was past championship years
@@yorkrothschild9922I’ve been telling causals that GOAT JAMES was in these NBA players heads from the rip… As a young adult and not even in his true prime, he had grown ass NBA players worried.
He’s salty because he was clear cut the 2nd best player coming out in that draft lol, he would’ve never went to Cleveland because bron was unanimous #1 since he was a freshmen in high school 😂
Man not picking Melo set the pistons back a good 30 years ! An cost them futures finals appearances ! Created that a bad domino effect by trading Iverson for billups! Obviously billups had more in the tank than Iverson did!
The league didn't want the PISTONS to stall another face of league. Pistons were the reason Jordan success to take over the league stalled with the bad boys and the Carmelo Pistons woulda been the reason why Lebron quest for a championship woulda been stalled
they don’t win because a rookie melo wasn’t more ready to win than experienced rasheed wallace. It wouldn’t be add melo to same team it’s a trade melo or sheed. At that moment sheed was more important
Melo at that time would have messed up the whole chemistry of that 2004 Pistons team, his style of play doesn't mesh well with Rasheed and Ben. He would bump heads with Tayshawn. When he came to Denver, we had a great squad in Chauncey, Kenyon, JR, and Nene. We should have won that Lakers series.
Folks forget we were always getting Sheed. It just happened mid season buy Joe was always trading for Sheed. Chauncey Rip Melo Sheed Ben and Tayshaun coming off the bench as a Point Forward🤦🏾♂️
Yall do realize this hypothetical situation doesn’t make u look any better right? 😂 Yall talking about needing to add Melo on an already made championship level team just to beat a 22 year old Lebron who was basically playing 1 on 5 that whole playoff run. 😂 Yall need all that just to stop one person and yall think that’s something to be happy about? 😂
Carmelo and Larry Brown would've killed each other. No defense, no passing, uncoachable. There's no scenario in which a team relying on Carmelo Anthony in any significant way wins a championship. Sorry to tick off you Knick fan losers. Deal with it.
We still reminisce. Why? This is BS conjecture. They didn't. You never know what's going to happen. The extraordinary Len Bias (RIP) was drafted by a Championship Boston Team and, unfortunately, never played a game. There are no guarantees in sports.
As a Pistons fan I always sit up late nights sometimes thinking damn what if we Drafted Melo we could’ve won at least two or three more rings! Hell we could've took Bosh or even Wade too!
FACTS 🎤
never would have had to move Billups either. breaks my damn heart.
I think about it all the time.. left my boy without a ring
Nothing is guaranteed they need to let it go and stop talking about this
@@brianmedrano8475he had a ton of opportunities he wasn't going to get one anyway
At some point, the Pistons ownership will have to explain why they chose Darko over Melo
Stupidity at it finest. 😂😂
I blame Joe Dumars
😂😂
Umm you do know Bill Davidson died right?? Tom Gores wasn't around for that
You mean Joe Dumars would have to explain.
Not just Melo though ... If the Pistons draft Bosh, they probably build something just as special. An athletic 2-way stretch 4 isn't anything to sneeze at, ijs.
I think they would've been a little better with Bosh
It was no point wit Sheed and Ben down there holding it down , Bosh wiuldnt have got alot of minutes early
@@moneyman4740 assuming they would've still made the trade for sheed, you're probably right
@@samgunz1 damn thats right , they got him during the season ! I forgot and idk Bosh was decent yr 1 but he wasnt enough to pass up on Sheed at that point , it can go either way tho
@moneyman4740 definitely wasn't on sheed level yet.. by his 2nd or 3rd year tho.. he was 20-10
That Nuggets team is one of my favorite all time teams
Nah Melo know what happened. Stern told them to draft Darko instead of Melo. & that bs blew up in the Pistons face.
Honest question, why would Stern do this and why would the Pistons agree? Not being snarky just wondering if you have some of the backstory on this.
@@layziebdubsame reason stern ruined Chris Paul teaming with Kobe
Same way he asked Shaq before the draft if he prefers warm or cold weather wink wink and Shaq said warm and ended up in Orlando 💯@@illapuproductions
@@illapuproductionsyup nba been rigged.
It's been rigged since the 85 draft since Ewing
I loveddd that pistons team bluddd I'm 32 this shit is memories
This video was a gift. Loved this episode
Melo offense with Ben's defense is crazy and billups only got Luke 2 turnover a game smh.
Melo’s career would’ve been way better if he was in Detroit frfr he would fit in immediately
Larry Brown wouldnt have played him, like ppl forget this dude had an issue with Jalen Rose in Indiana and was hellla strict/off some powertrip sh*t. Look at AI in philly - dude had to be a generational guard for that team to work.
Without Melo, they won the chip in '04, went to game 7 finals in '05, then the ECF until '08. With Melo, they win in '04, win in '05, likely beat Miami and Dallas in '06 for a 3-Peat, beat Cleveland in '07, and Ben Wallace probably stays because of 3 chips instead of 1, maybe pull out one last chip in '07 against the Spurs, but could also lose, and then probably lose in '08 against Boston due to the aged core. If Melo joins the Pistons and the Sheed trade is still done, he'd have 3 chips, maybe even 4
Crazy to say just Bron lol bro like a super human on the court or some shi
Facts💯
Every time Melo to DET is discussed you always get some folks claiming "Melo would've disrupted what they had", and I always look @ them funny lol
Definitely agree and if Ben Wallace was still there in 07 they also don’t lose
Isn't Chauncey Billups the one that said Melo didn't care if they lost a game , just as long as he had 30
Yup, and that’s why they both said Chauncey was the general to teach them how to win
Yea he showed melo tough love. I get why he said it.
That is not what he said bruh. . he said he remembered one time, in the locker room after they won, seeing Melo was sad and he asked why, he said cuz he didn't get his 30 still.. not that he didn't care if he won or not as long as he got 30 smh
man what is wrong with y'all ? y'all weird making up stuff
@@mr.getitdone6543didn’t you just say the same thing as the OP?
@@henry7486 did you just get out of kindergarten??
"Leave George alone". 😂😂😂😂😂
Great insight! I always thought it was stupid of the Knicks to amnesty Chauncey after that first season, and it came back to bite them in the ass very quickly!!! Smh
Didn’t Chauncey say a while back that melo used to celebrate L’s because he’d have 30 lol
Right 😭
I just posted the same shizz, didn’t see this yet.
Absolutely he only cared about stats or points I should say
He made the playoffs every single year in Denver so who cares. Put them on the map period
@@onestopshopno championships
Ai Denver run is criminally underrated and underlooked
Non Pistons fans will never understand the never-ending pain this situation causes us
"Bron would've never beat us" lmao yup a team with Melo, Chauncey,Richard Hamilton,Big Ben and Sheed?🤣🍻🍺
Bron wasn’t anyone those times. That was still carrying Kobe’s bags, TMac’s and even AI’s bags after losing games to them. Who tf he was beating in the 2000s? 😂
@@biblereadings7617 Bron had 25 straight pts against those same guys lol. Melo for sure wasn’t stopping Bron anymore than Tayshawn Prince couldn’t
@@Geeandrezziand a Bron wasn’t stopping Melo because he truly never has before lol
@@travieetreproductions943 I never said Bron was stopping Melo lol. I’m saying nothing would’ve changed because Lebron still would’ve went off anyway against Detroit
@@Geeandrezzi read the op again. It has Melo hypothetically on Detroit’s team you clearly said nobody stopping Bron in Detroit. Now you back tracking? lol
The king 🤘🏾
Still losing sleep till this day lmao. It hurts
What people forget is rashad Wallace wasnt on that team yet . He was traded mid season , so in all likelihood, the trade doesn’t happen if they have Melo , he would’ve been a trade asset
yeah but I’m pretty sure Rasheed’s trade value was low asf due to his off-court issues/arguing with refs, I don’t think Detroit actually traded anybody of major value irl but I may be remembering wrong
Nah…Pistons needed Sheed more than Melo at that point. When melo came into the league he was not considered a 4. He became a 4 because the league went small ball after ‘13 or so
Biggest draft what ifs next to if the rockets would have accepted the blazers proposed trade in 1984 offering Clyde Drexler and the #2 pick for Ralph Sampson. getting Dream, Jordan and Clyde on rookie contracts together
Thats crazy
Leave George Alone is Insane 😂
That was one of the dumbest decisions not only NBA history... In sports history. Darko Milocic..... TF? Smn
Melo inviting him on after what Billups said shows growth
that's easily a 10-year dynasty... young melo with all those vets around him would have had made him a better leader too
we are looking at 5x nba championship from 1st year of the league, if melo was drafted by pistons
Nobody talks about how DEN didn't start winning until Iverson got traded.
Darko was a gem
They forgetting what a monster young 2-way Bron was 🤦🏾♂️
Brons legacy wouldn't exist tho he'd be in melos shoes currently if melo would have went to Detroit. You don't understand the pistons beat in 5 or 6 games probably arguably the best on paper NBA team ever assembled. Melos on that team Detroit's 3 peating maybe even a 4 peat melon takes rook of the year and honestly his legacy would have probably been set up as "goat" status. LeBron would have just been another super star. Crazy the butterfly affect that happens from one terrible draft pick at Marko..
@@fishordietv6614stop LMAOO even if the pistons beat lebron lebron is leagues better than melo lebron would have just found another way lol
@@Andre-ko7co obviously y'all didn't watch basketball in the early and mid 2000s lmfao
@@fishordietv6614 we watched and we saw Melo, those vets would have faded out and Melo just ain't talented enough to run a conference, dudes a bucket but that's about all he ever was. Bron been busting his ass since high school on a stacked team don't forget that
I don’t know about that,”said max kellerman
Bron my favorite player but this got me thinking it was Scripted for Bron the whole time. Melo definitely deserved that ROY. That’s why most nba players still don’t give lebron the respect they give Kobe and Mike. They know he was given that position.
Now explain the rest of melo career after his rookie year. Just like billups said when he was publicly tearing melo down when he couldn't get a job in the NBA he cared more about scoring a bunch of points and losing than scoring less and winning. He had one western conference finals appearance and couldn't get it done. He had no regular season MVP and definitely didn't win any jewelry. Yeah they scripted it for Bron to have a losing finals record 😂😂😂😂
@@itwasalladream21of course the scripted it. They still scripting it.. all this usa lebron glazing. If you don't see the script then u clueless
Bron lucky Melo didn't go to the Pistons, the East would've been Melo conference
But do they still trade for sheed if they draft melo?
I think they still do. Melo being the super 6th man or Tayshaun coming off the bench at times depending on the situation or matchups.
Nope! Thanks for bringing that up
Bron got Melo's rookie of the year trophy sitting in his house.
As a Detroit Pistons fan. Yes, you always wonder why. Denver beat Lakers. It was one of those Tim Donaghy games
It would have been nice but I wonder if Tashun Prince would have been what he was
Damn a grown ass man plotting on how to beat a 18 year old 😂
Facts💯!!!!!! Pathetic! 😂
😭😭😭
He wasn't even a threat at the time. He was saying lebron wouldn't have beat them when he finally did in 07. In 03 04 05 06 he wasn't a threat to Pistons
@@YoungJones-im8fnhell no
@YoungJones-im8fn He still shouldn't have beat them period..An experienced championship squad losing like that is just embarrassing
Leave George alone 😂😂
Had the Darko draft worked what the nba has now would have happened 10 years sooner. I think Stern made a play and figured if it failed “hey, it’s just the Pistons”.
The NBA didn't want Melo in the same conference. That's what happened.
Leave George alone 😂😂😂😂
Basketball wise arguably the craziest offseason in Detroit basketball since I’ve been alive once Memphis lost the lottery and the pick went 2 man still a crazy Dumars is the worst GM in NBA history no question
Now he says melo was a great teammate I'll leave this here. Melo's selfish style of play was once again put in the national spotlight when former running mate Chauncey Billups claimed that scoring 30 points a game "meant too much" to him, and that he would be upset after wins in which he didn't score a ton of points.
It may have been different with melo under some real vets to show him the game and how to work his game .. leadership matters for young guys..you only learn how to lead properly if you first been led properly. In Denver who was Melos leadership
He said what he said..but never said he was a bad teammate
@@lofromdabronx6959that sure doesn’t sound like a good teammate though
If melo goes to Detroit, Than dwade go-to Denver. Miami would have no championships to date.
Joe dumars a weirdo he ruined History
pistons fans redid the Bron era fasho this year
Melo was great... on offense. With the way he behaved his entire career, the idea that Melo would have accepted a defense first approach, and the level of effort required by the coach and the team in the 2004 Pistons is laughable to me.
Put your bias aside and really go watch dever melo. Wit billups melo played defense. Do yo research on who got switched on to kobe in playoffs and who kobe said defended him best 😂😂😂
How much y'all need for one man?? This is not a flex LOL
Exactly!!! The more stories I hear about lebron, I’m convinced he’s Superman
Bronsexuals smh 🤦🏽♂️, u think that’s the reason they wish they drafted melo in 03 instead of darko? Bcuz they were afraid of the 03-04 Cavs
And they already had a SOLID starting 5 lol
You must wasn't around during this time. Melo and bron was in the same draft class 😂😂. Lebron beat the pistons after they lost Ben Wallace and was past championship years
@@yorkrothschild9922I’ve been telling causals that GOAT JAMES was in these NBA players heads from the rip… As a young adult and not even in his true prime, he had grown ass NBA players worried.
Leave George alone 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Melo talks about this alot. He seems to be salty about it. He could’ve had it worse and been drafted to Cleveland.
He’s salty because he was clear cut the 2nd best player coming out in that draft lol, he would’ve never went to Cleveland because bron was unanimous #1 since he was a freshmen in high school 😂
That's how you know Lakers was dominant in that 3 peat chauncy kept talking bout beating the Lakers
What if.... With the 2nd pick in the 2003 Nba draft the Detroit Pistons select Carmelo Anthony from Syracuse University..... History 😢
CB and TP may childhood Idol
Deeeettttriiiooooootttttt Bassssketabllll
Man not picking Melo set the pistons back a good 30 years ! An cost them futures finals appearances ! Created that a bad domino effect by trading Iverson for billups! Obviously billups had more in the tank than Iverson did!
Ben Wallace was still gonna leave, so they would’ve been vulnerable
He was traded he never left
Bosh would have been a better fit.
Bosh can adjust to what is needed.
Melo has a different mentality and approach.
The league didn't want the PISTONS to stall another face of league. Pistons were the reason Jordan success to take over the league stalled with the bad boys and the Carmelo Pistons woulda been the reason why Lebron quest for a championship woulda been stalled
One of the worst fuck ups in nba history.
100 percent agree with you.
They would have certainly been a dynasty!!!!
David Stern is the reason
Yea Detroit would've reign in the East would've been longer. In the scenario they draft Melo Miami never draft Wade.
If they would've drafted Melo, who's to say they would've traded for Sheed mid-season 🤔🤔🤔
Dawg they WENT TO THE WEST Finals in 09.. WTF u think would’ve happened???
they don’t win because a rookie melo wasn’t more ready to win than experienced rasheed wallace. It wouldn’t be add melo to same team it’s a trade melo or sheed. At that moment sheed was more important
How Detroit did not drafted Melo ???? He was the best player after Lebron in the draft that year
What ifs are fun but At the end of the day Bron cooked the Pistons who had home court advantage in his early 20s in 07
Melo at that time would have messed up the whole chemistry of that 2004 Pistons team, his style of play doesn't mesh well with Rasheed and Ben. He would bump heads with Tayshawn. When he came to Denver, we had a great squad in Chauncey, Kenyon, JR, and Nene. We should have won that Lakers series.
Please they had real vets on the team Melo would’ve of been sixth man and they would’ve made him play the way the team was and defense.
Am I the only one trying to figure out what Jordan 11 does he have on?
Melo’s 🧢 🇵🇷🔥🔥
Bro, you was the saying all that shit about Melo. 😂😂😂😂🤦🏾♂️
"people be sayin"
But Bron was never” feared” 😂😂😂
Well, hold on. If they would have drafted Melo, they probably would NOT have gotten Rasheed Wallace. So who knows what would have happened.
The Nuggets big men ain’t always show up. KMart kinda underperformed alot, NeNe always hurt, Camby was hit or miss. George Karl was in the way too
Melo's career would have been better if he cared more about winning than he did.
Folks forget we were always getting Sheed. It just happened mid season buy Joe was always trading for Sheed. Chauncey Rip Melo Sheed Ben and Tayshaun coming off the bench as a Point Forward🤦🏾♂️
If melo would have gotten drafted they most likely would've not got sheed
EXACTLY!
They wouldn't have needed em
They could have won so many championships
Melo should sue the nba. 😂
Melo should also blame Joe Dumar.
Yall do realize this hypothetical situation doesn’t make u look any better right? 😂
Yall talking about needing to add Melo on an already made championship level team just to beat a 22 year old Lebron who was basically playing 1 on 5 that whole playoff run. 😂
Yall need all that just to stop one person and yall think that’s something to be happy about? 😂
Lmao these Pistons players think they are the best of all time
It’s insane. Defensively they were DOMINATE… Omg… but they weren’t the best team of all time… Hell no!!!!
Besides the 09 Celtics, that Pistons team loves milking that 1 championship 😂😂😂
if carmello went to pistons, they prolly woulda lost ben or prince
They ended up losing Ben anyway they would have been good casue Melo was still on his rookie contract
Prince for sure
@@gwensalador4325 ong
It would've gone against the NBA's plan to build the, "Chosen One", had Melo, and the Pistons, dominated. But hey, it's not rigged, right🙃?
Wait wait go get him tho. Real shit melo shouldve learned earlier.
Thats why melo went to Denver. League didnt want melo to get a ring before LeBron.. Just look how they robbed him of the ROTY award..
Carmelo and Larry Brown would've killed each other. No defense, no passing, uncoachable. There's no scenario in which a team relying on Carmelo Anthony in any significant way wins a championship. Sorry to tick off you Knick fan losers. Deal with it.
Melo
We still reminisce. Why? This is BS conjecture. They didn't. You never know what's going to happen. The extraordinary Len Bias (RIP) was drafted by a Championship Boston Team and, unfortunately, never played a game. There are no guarantees in sports.
If they draft melo. I don’t think they get sheed that season.
Shoulda coulda woulda.
Melo wins at least 2 he was a kid his game would've been a little different more unselfish and a better defender
Larry brown and that front office smh how do u not draft melo they would at least won 2
Was*
Melo wasnt gon be paying PF, so they probably woulda traded prince for a PF n ruined they team so you neva know
Pistons get at least 2 rings easy
Lol you can’t beat the Lakers without playing defense.
Would they have paid Ben with Melo there?