@@aenarcos7021 I'm so sorry we missed this question. We need to make a video on this in the future. There are two types of a arms, standard travel and long travel. You can achieve around the same wheel travel with either setup. However, long travel refers more to the length of the shock used. Standard travel will typically use a stock length shock in long travel requires the use of a slightly longer shock. Anytime you add wider aftermarket A-Arms, you will need to have your shocks revalved and re sprung to deal with the added Leverage. Simply cranking up your shocks spring preload is not sufficient. If you plan on adding long travel a arms then you will either have to have your stock shocks lengthened, in addition to the other before listed modifications which can only be done on certain models. Adding an axle does not require you to do anything to your suspension. We did the rear shock on our Raptor redone to match the fronts. We worked with Race Tech on this build. They can help you figure out what you need or if you have any other questions feel free to hit us back.
If Yamaha do not release this raptor RR some racing house or somebody can buy them new and build them up and start selling this, maybe you guys @ATVonDemand.
@@ATVonDemand Alba is making extended long travel a arms that come with adapters on them so your able to run the OEM shocks. Can’t really beat the price and then you have the option to change to “long travel” shocks later by simply unbolting the adapters and removing them which gives you the lower mounting point for the LT shocks. That’s what I went with and was able to mount the Alba a arms immediately with the OEM shocks on my quad while I waited for months for my custom PEP shocks to be built and sent out to me. That was really nice because I got the Tusk +6 rear axle as well and the Alba a arms aloud me to enjoy the benefits of the extra width front and rear while I waited for good shocks. So I was still able to ride the quad and there was minimal downtime, just something to think about. I had my raptor to the local Motocross track already and put the Alba a arms and everything to the test and they held up to whatever abuse I could throw at it so I wouldn’t be afraid to run those A arms in any situation.
Matthew Andrews yea sxs have definitely made a boom lately and pushed sports quads back a little...sort of hard to argue that one! I do think they all have there followers, but i would say sxs are king at the moment
Nah I think I’d rather build up a 450. The chassis is far superior and much lighter and it wouldn’t take much to mod that engine and get probably even more performance than the raptor offers.
Tiny McPoop Ok but what about the chassis design and it’s ability to actually use that added extra power? I mean... I could throw a ESR330 powervalved engine in my lawn mower and make it faster as frig.... but I’m not gonna. Idk man I think I’ll just stick with the Honda. The Craptor is an ok machine, but when I’m spending thousands of dollars start getting into the details and it’s just a fact that the TRX450 is very very very closely designed off the TRX250 chassis and that chassis set the bar for superior race stability and cornering capabilities at race speeds with the ability to do so using mondo horsepower and lunatics at the throttle. And quite frankly that bar has never been topped by any other maker. Only by makers who are literally copying the the TRX250 geometry. It’s just a fact. It’s lower center of gravity and narrow framework between the a arms and not to mention the litany of aftermarket parts to make it even wider stronger longer and better is just a mile long. Sooo idk why go for pretty good when can be fukn amazing? Honda simply just came up the absolute best combination of measurements and angles and it really can’t be beat. To be totally honest I’d much rather skip both of these and go directly to the TRX330 and just be done w it. And probably the only reason I’d go to the TRX450R is if I absolutely wanted a brand new machine that’s only been ridden by me. Like I said I’m not shitting on the Craptor. It’s pretty ok machine, I’ve ridden quite a few, it’s basically for Yamaha fans. I’m not saying it’s not good, I’m just saying it’s not number ONE that’s all. Maybe a person who’s taller or heavier would want one over the other. That’s also a factor. I’ve had banshees I’ve had Tri-Zs before. So it’s not that I’m a Honda fan boy that thinks only Honda makes good stuff. It’s just that this chassis like I said is simply that much better. It’s just all there is to it
Tiny McPoop Back in the day the TRX set more race records than anything on the market. And even today those records have only been replicated by the fact that this chassis by default was almost taken out of the game, by regulations demanding a in production machine....and then the intro to the 400EX kept it in the game. Yamaha has a 450 and that chassis is also better than the top heavy raptor. I’d definitely go w that one over the raptor also, and guess what else.... Yamaha was also staring at 250R blueprints when they built their 450 also. They tried to disguise it, but anyone paying attention can see this in the front cross section.
I have an 09 SE and have thousands of hard miles on it. The only thing that has broke on it was the front sprockets teeth suddenly disappeared so I changed the chain and sprockets. I can't justify buying a new one that's a little faster. I'd buy a double R and give my 09 to my Son.
That's a good looking quad! I loved my 700 but with a wider body I could see myself clipping more trees and rocks at high speeds. I had to replace my steering column twice. It doesn't look like anything has been done to help the lights from breaking off in a roll over either. I'll bet that thing would be real fun in the dunes!
Triplicity Damystery obviously, you know we're already sold on the Raptor. It was a lot of fun doing this project and it would be good on so many levels if we could purchase something similar from our local Yamaha dealer. Either way, the Raptors awesome and with a few small changes we think it works better everywhere. We really appreciate you watching and commenting. Thanks.
Jehon Wright you could add nerf bars and a kill switch to this machine and go erase the worcs series with it or do you want occasional motocross race. It's a lot of fun clearing jumps at half the throttle of a 450.
Thanks for the Raptor 700RR video. I will be following along and trying these upgrades on my own. I wish Yamaha would sell a version of this machine, I would definitely buy one. Thanks again. Love watching your videos on ATV reviews.
A wider Raptor would be the perfect bike. As an enthusiast over 200 lbs, the big engine and better comfort of a bigger bike makes sense. But one of the main reasons I want a sport bike is to take turns at the fastest possible. I might not be able to wait for a new stock model, so thanks for the video, I’m going to see if I can build it myself.
I am an owner of a raptor 700r and frequently dune ride and trail ride. Widening the raptor would make this machine and even more amazing one. The width is the only down side of this current bike and would greatly benefit by widening.
All it takes IMO is one new sport quad to kickstart the sport atv market again. Like how yamaha made the YFZ450, all the other manufactures followed suite and made their own 450s. All it takes is one new quad or updated quad and I believe the market will come back.glad to see a new sport quad video, great work!
I agree with the making it wider aspect. That's a good chance! The prototype you guys built looks awesome. Let me know if you need an outside party to come test drive it for you ;)
YES!!!! This change would make me finally buy a RAPTOR ‼️‼️‼️ Hits the nail on the main concerns I’ve had with the current one!! It would finally remove all my hesitancies!! I really hope Yamaha builds it because I’m SOLD!!!
I think it'd be very well received. Only thing I'd add would be a seat similar to the yfz450 the wide t-shaped seat. Feel like itd be more comfortable for long trail rides
I've been looking at a new raptor for a while. Currently a yfz owner but do mostly trail riding, and have heard that raptors are more tippy so I have held off getting one for a few years. A wider raptor would definitely push me to upgrade!
I LOVE what you guys have done with this prototype Raptor! I have been looking at the Raptor for the last several months and I'm getting very close to purchasing one. I'm not entirely sure if I will hold off on my purchase in hopes of seeing a newer version like this one due to the fact that it will more than likely be a couple of years before it would be released...if at all. :/ Regardless, I just want to give a HUGE shout out to everyone who was involved in this Raptor prototype build! It is absolutely, positively as dialed in of a Sport ATV as anyone could ever hope for. I certainly hope that Yamaha listens and takes action and comes up with something as good (if not better) straight from the factory!!! In the meantime, one of the motorsports dealers that you highlighted should consider offering this incredible machine as a new, straight from the dealership custom package. I realize that this was not an inexpensive machine to build, however I believe that for the serious buyer, there is definitely a demand. I know how much work goes into creating this machine and filming/narrating a video like this. Fantastic job guys!
boffin6969 if you were considering buying a raptor pull the trigger. Who knows how long we will wait to see a machine like this or if we ever will. The current raptor is pretty awesome and easy to turn into this. You're correct, widening the machine wasn't exactly cheap however we really tried to max out value for the dollar on the parts we picked. Not by purchasing the least expensive but by using products that offered the most performance and value for the dollar. We're thrilled with the way this machine turned out and really appreciate you watching and giving us your feedback.
Got a brand new warrior 350 in 1987 as a teen after my first & only 3 wheeler, which was a Yamaha 225DX. Just starting to ride again after 30 years & Yamaha seems to be making awesome ATVs these days, just like back then. I don't need a race quad but this quad looks amazing
I will never get rid of my 2014 Honda 450R but this thing would be a really good investment that I would definitely purchase if I didn't already have my 450. The more wide Raptor gives you so much more space to toss the thing around, to stay planted, and to get through the trails as well as the track. It is a seriously awesome machine, and I hope Yamaha considers making this a real thing, because you bet your bottom dollar that they would sell like hot cakes.
great video! i have the 2008 raptor 700 and i already installed aftermarket wider arms and axle, its way more better than stock, yes yamaha needs to make the raptor 700 wider now, awesome video joe!
great selling feature ! and the quad market needs a spicing up! i think it would be a hit! we all know the Raptor 700r is the king of the sport atv market! I would love to see a little more power with the wider stance! the Duners should eat it up!
wolfie 350 heck yeah, we remember chatting with you in the past. Didn't take it as rude. We haven't been as active as we'd like to be lately. Make sure you are also subscribe to our UTV channel so you're getting all of our content.
You guys should totally add this prototype to the market, it would be awesome. And i can seek for everyone when I say that a lot of people are going to buy this quad
I used wheel extenders front and rear to get the width of this build. The rear is at 49.5 and the front is at 48.75. Since I only Trail ride and light jumps the wheel extenders work fine. The ride is so much better. More stable in the turns and side hills. I had a YFZ450 and my 700 rides so much like it not that its been widen. Its like having the ride of a 450 with the torque of the 700.
Sign me up! This is exactly what I’m looking for. That’s my only complaint about the raptor is it has a tendency to bicycle in hard / flat turns. I think almost everyone would purchase this over the regular raptor if it was available.
For about $800 you can get the +2 Houser arms and Dominator 2 axle. Coupled with offset wheels it makes it over 50 inches wide. This makes it an absolute 450 killer, with an insane feeling of stability. If they built a factory Raptor at that width there’s no doubt more people would stop complaining the Raptor feels “tippy” and buy the Raptor over the YFZ.
We would try to avoid adding additional wheel offset. While we do it on UTVs and ATVs with power steering and smaller ATVs like Blasters of Honda 250X, adding wheel offset increases bump feedback to the rider and makes the machine harder to steer. This is the reason that most top MX racers use the widest A-Arms possible with wheels that are offset inward, which reduces steering effort. To us, offset wheels are a last resort and often not worth the trade-off. Additionally, you have to have your suspension revelved and re-sprung to go wide Just sharing info, not trying to correct you. Thanks for watching and commenting.
ATVonDemand couldn’t agree more, however I run a precision stabilizer and even in the harshest trails I get no feedback. But again that’s another $500 for the stabilizer, so without it, it’s probably best to run stock wheels.
The stabilizer will help on bump feedback but it won't help the increase in steering effort. This might be a good setup for you though and that's what matters most.
Dirt Nasty while widening a raptor will make it handle better, by no means does it create a 450 killer. In order to do that, you'd have to put the machine on a diet to drop the 20+ lbs that the raptor has on the 450's, then you'd not only need to go with the close ratio gearing of a 450, but you'd also need to do cams & a tune to acheive the "lightswitch" like power delivery of a 450 class bike. What you're suggesting is almost like comparing an old dt 400 to an early 2000's yz125.
I agree with Yamaha keeping it at 45.5 stock, easy to change for those who 'think' they need it wider... Sitting position, EFI, and proven design/engine is what sold me on my 2016
I would definitely go buy one of these! I love my YFZ450R but I would have bought a Raptor RR had it been available. Would love to see more R&D in the sport ATV world!
I had a 2015 raptor 700 definitely was a upgrade from my 06 700. But i,prefer the yfz 450r wider and lower to the ground handled way better and didn't feel top heavy. Yamaha hopefully will do changes to both,machines for 2019.
I agree with the wider, but I hope they don’t get rid of the 450r either bc it is a race ready performer too and I like it a lot. Also very excited for the 200x!
I had a brandnew 2001 raptor 660r. First complaint was it was tippy and tall feeling. (I was riding a banshee and 85 atc250r) first mods were 20 inch fast trekkers out back n hole shots up front on wider offset front wheels. Spacers in the rear.(axle bent jumping to high). Next mod was i turned the linkage around 180 degrees and lowered the rear alot. Stiffended things up a tad but was by far the most noticable improvement. I miss it for trail rippin but the 05 yfz450 that replaced it was just so awesome i never looked back except wheel banshees n raptors blew the decals off it top speed on gravel roads. My opinion after riding every yamaha atv made since the early 80s ( trizinger. Yt125 n 175. Ytm200e.tym225 . Tri-z . Moto 4 200 225 350 bigbear. Kodiak banshee raptor yfz grizzly plus over 50 mx bikes mostly yamahas.... hers my opinion.... lower it. Widen it. And skidpkate and gytr exhaust system . Pro taper bars.. ( stock bars are so gay wtf....) and yes i made a major mistake and bought a pile of shit POLARIS. Its ALWAYS broken. Wolverine x4 on the way asap.
Just awesome.. I will buy one.. I own two YFZ450 now.. A R and a X model.. love to ride.. I am 47 and owned 3 new quads.. 2008 Honda 450r was the first one.. Give consumer what they want Yamaha.. I vote make it..
We put up a arts list with prices in the story on our website. We don't add prices to videos because they can change and we want the videos to remain somewhat timeless. You can check out the parts list here. atvondemand.com/prototype-49-5-wide-yamaha-raptor-700-test/
That would be a awesome machine for sure. Hope Yamaha listens. I have owned everything from blasters to banshees to 4x4's and now a 700. Diff would love to throw my leg over a factory version of what I'm building. Thanks
A wider raptor rides better out there in the dunes. All raptors’ riders around me had made their raptors wider for better controls on top of the dunes. As you can imagine, shifting your position from side to side is needed in each turn while riding on dunes, thus making the raptor wider will help a lot at critical angles.
dahmoony based in Ohio we don't get to the dunes as often as we'd like. We definitely assume that this machine would work better in the dunes and greatly appreciate your real world feedback.
I would argue the wider wheel base is still beneficial without being in the dunes though. again, I like the 49.5" base you guys went with. Also keeping it under 50" was a good call.
ATVonDemand I widened my 07 700 when I went big bore stroker and built it to an 12.5:1 804cc with 54mm TB with dual pink injectors and a Cuervo Racing 5250 cam Cuervo racing port and polished head. I went +2 LT a arms and an adjustable -2 to +4 axelcaliber axel. I also added a +4 swingarm. It’s still a handful in trails/woods. 98hp 65tq on vp 110 pc5 controller DMC Force 4 Duals.
By all means! Keep sport quads alive! My 18 year old son is buying a raptor , I’ve had a raptor for a couple years and I’m tired of working on old $#!!. I would buy a 700rr and sell mine for an extremely discounted price to my 14 year old son! Then I would have some incredibly maintained 80s-90s sport quads for sale! We all start from somewhere .
That's cool that you and your son are rocking sport quads. You might have to toss a couple grand to build your own RR. Yamaha doesn't have to do much without competition. The Raptor sells itself. You bring up a good point, compared to the amount of time you spend working on new machines is greatly reduced. Sport quads are also a lot easier to work on than 4x4 ATVs or SXS.
Aside from the skid plate and seat cover upgrades there is very little here that should raise the machines retail price. We wouldn't expect Yamaha to add adjustable a arms to it, just build longer ones. Of course, the axle would also have to be reengineering Fritz extra length but the added cost of manufacturing wider a arms in an axle shouldn't be that much. Utilizing the same shocks recalibrated shouldn't add much in the way of cost either. We think it would be a huge win for everyone. Big thanks for watching and commenting.
Excellent video and a great build on the RR! The narrow width of the stock Raptor is the ONLY aspect of the bike that has me debating between the 700R SE and the 450R SE. If the Raptor was wider the 450R wouldn't even be a consideration. Yamaha NEEDS to widen the Raptor! Seeing what you did has put the Raptor back in the hunt as my next bike. Scott
Hey Scott, glad you enjoyed the video. We keep hoping Yamaha will take note. If you need a little help making your decision, check out our yfz450r vs Raptor 700R shootout video. Then, come back and watch this video again. Both are great machines. We wish we had both in our garage.
Oops, we made a mistake. The yfz450x was around for 2 years, 2010 and 2011. Sorry for the error and thanks for watching.
Do we have to change the suspension for extended a arms or axles ?
I love the yamaha raptor 700 and the 450 yamaha
@@aenarcos7021 I'm so sorry we missed this question. We need to make a video on this in the future. There are two types of a arms, standard travel and long travel. You can achieve around the same wheel travel with either setup. However, long travel refers more to the length of the shock used. Standard travel will typically use a stock length shock in long travel requires the use of a slightly longer shock. Anytime you add wider aftermarket A-Arms, you will need to have your shocks revalved and re sprung to deal with the added Leverage. Simply cranking up your shocks spring preload is not sufficient. If you plan on adding long travel a arms then you will either have to have your stock shocks lengthened, in addition to the other before listed modifications which can only be done on certain models. Adding an axle does not require you to do anything to your suspension. We did the rear shock on our Raptor redone to match the fronts. We worked with Race Tech on this build. They can help you figure out what you need or if you have any other questions feel free to hit us back.
If Yamaha do not release this raptor RR some racing house or somebody can buy them new and build them up and start selling this, maybe you guys @ATVonDemand.
@@ATVonDemand Alba is making extended long travel a arms that come with adapters on them so your able to run the OEM shocks. Can’t really beat the price and then you have the option to change to “long travel” shocks later by simply unbolting the adapters and removing them which gives you the lower mounting point for the LT shocks. That’s what I went with and was able to mount the Alba a arms immediately with the OEM shocks on my quad while I waited for months for my custom PEP shocks to be built and sent out to me. That was really nice because I got the Tusk +6 rear axle as well and the Alba a arms aloud me to enjoy the benefits of the extra width front and rear while I waited for good shocks. So I was still able to ride the quad and there was minimal downtime, just something to think about. I had my raptor to the local Motocross track already and put the Alba a arms and everything to the test and they held up to whatever abuse I could throw at it so I wouldn’t be afraid to run those A arms in any situation.
I love it, bring sport quads back!
lol. I wouldn't say sport quads have gone away would you? I would agree that have taken a back seat to mudding machines though!.
Midwest ATV well yes but only yamaha is producing them.
bring back the ds450!
larry moore that would be cool! Imagine a renegade 850 turbo 😁
Matthew Andrews yea sxs have definitely made a boom lately and pushed sports quads back a little...sort of hard to argue that one!
I do think they all have there followers, but i would say sxs are king at the moment
Exactly what a factory Raptor should be.
Would preorder immediately if Yamaha produced this
Nah I would wait for a while before I get one just in case any defects and Yamaha need a recall.
Nah I think I’d rather build up a 450. The chassis is far superior and much lighter and it wouldn’t take much to mod that engine and get probably even more performance than the raptor offers.
Tiny McPoop Ok but what about the chassis design and it’s ability to actually use that added extra power? I mean... I could throw a ESR330 powervalved engine in my lawn mower and make it faster as frig.... but I’m not gonna. Idk man I think I’ll just stick with the Honda. The Craptor is an ok machine, but when I’m spending thousands of dollars start getting into the details and it’s just a fact that the TRX450 is very very very closely designed off the TRX250 chassis and that chassis set the bar for superior race stability and cornering capabilities at race speeds with the ability to do so using mondo horsepower and lunatics at the throttle. And quite frankly that bar has never been topped by any other maker. Only by makers who are literally copying the the TRX250 geometry. It’s just a fact.
It’s lower center of gravity and narrow framework between the a arms and not to mention the litany of aftermarket parts to make it even wider stronger longer and better is just a mile long. Sooo idk why go for pretty good when can be fukn amazing? Honda simply just came up the absolute best combination of measurements and angles and it really can’t be beat.
To be totally honest I’d much rather skip both of these and go directly to the TRX330 and just be done w it. And probably the only reason I’d go to the TRX450R is if I absolutely wanted a brand new machine that’s only been ridden by me.
Like I said I’m not shitting on the Craptor. It’s pretty ok machine, I’ve ridden quite a few, it’s basically for Yamaha fans. I’m not saying it’s not good, I’m just saying it’s not number ONE that’s all. Maybe a person who’s taller or heavier would want one over the other. That’s also a factor. I’ve had banshees I’ve had Tri-Zs before. So it’s not that I’m a Honda fan boy that thinks only Honda makes good stuff. It’s just that this chassis like I said is simply that much better. It’s just all there is to it
Tiny McPoop Back in the day the TRX set more race records than anything on the market. And even today those records have only been replicated by the fact that this chassis by default was almost taken out of the game, by regulations demanding a in production machine....and then the intro to the 400EX kept it in the game. Yamaha has a 450 and that chassis is also better than the top heavy raptor. I’d definitely go w that one over the raptor also, and guess what else.... Yamaha was also staring at 250R blueprints when they built their 450 also. They tried to disguise it, but anyone paying attention can see this in the front cross section.
Yeah Yamaha needs to build this.
Get rid of the 700 and make the 700r the standard. 700rr new top dog
Listen To this Man Yamaha !!!
Currently the 2020 700r se. Just bought 1
That skid plate motivated me to get up and go ride my dirtbike
What? LOL
ATVonDemand they finnested the design and its beautiful
Most definitely I am interested in this Yamaha raptor 700 RR
HELL YEAH!! Ill buy that in a hot second if yamaha starts producing this wider model!
I just bought a 2019 Raptor but would rather have had the wide track version for sure. You can count on me to buy one if it ever hits the market.
Ditto!
Just get the Houser arms and you’re set. 2.25” wider
You don’t seem happy u can sell ur Raptor to me if u want 🤗
Just bought the 2020 700r se
I have an 09 SE and have thousands of hard miles on it. The only thing that has broke on it was the front sprockets teeth suddenly disappeared so I changed the chain and sprockets. I can't justify buying a new one that's a little faster. I'd buy a double R and give my 09 to my Son.
mountaineer BOOM! Thanks for your feedback
They are definitely rugged beasts!
the raptor and the 450 are the best atvs on the market.
About time! Can't believe it took so long.
The Raptor I always dream Yamaha makes. Hopefully soon!!
As you could tell, we couldn't wait.
I love where offroading has gone over the years and am definatly looking forward to the years to come
What's been your favorite thing about the direction off roading has gone?
That's a good looking quad! I loved my 700 but with a wider body I could see myself clipping more trees and rocks at high speeds. I had to replace my steering column twice. It doesn't look like anything has been done to help the lights from breaking off in a roll over either. I'll bet that thing would be real fun in the dunes!
i want this as my next machine. It literally covers everything you need its ready to race ,ready to thrash.
Triplicity Damystery obviously, you know we're already sold on the Raptor. It was a lot of fun doing this project and it would be good on so many levels if we could purchase something similar from our local Yamaha dealer. Either way, the Raptors awesome and with a few small changes we think it works better everywhere. We really appreciate you watching and commenting. Thanks.
The raptor 700 is not race ready
Jehon Wright you could add nerf bars and a kill switch to this machine and go erase the worcs series with it or do you want occasional motocross race. It's a lot of fun clearing jumps at half the throttle of a 450.
I know. Just didn't know if you were aware of that
We are.
Just watched the video. I'm wanting a 700RR sooo bad! If they'd build one like that stock I'd be in debt in a heartbeat lol
So what a lot of us.
Thanks for the Raptor 700RR video. I will be following along and trying these upgrades on my own. I wish Yamaha would sell a version of this machine, I would definitely buy one. Thanks again. Love watching your videos on ATV reviews.
You guys did pretty good on this build. I’d have topped it off with a steering stabilizer, houser +1 stem with anti vibe clamp and some tougher bars.
A wider Raptor would be the perfect bike. As an enthusiast over 200 lbs, the big engine and better comfort of a bigger bike makes sense. But one of the main reasons I want a sport bike is to take turns at the fastest possible. I might not be able to wait for a new stock model, so thanks for the video, I’m going to see if I can build it myself.
If you build it, we will buy it! Definitely the ultimate sport atv that most of us have been waiting to hit the market for 20-30 years.
That's exactly what I have felt it needed!
Take my money,
this is the way to go..
Always wanted my 700 wider...
Take my money, LOL, awesome. They can take ours too.
I am an owner of a raptor 700r and frequently dune ride and trail ride. Widening the raptor would make this machine and even more amazing one. The width is the only down side of this current bike and would greatly benefit by widening.
PLEASE PLEASE listen Yamaha!! 700RR!!
I see a money making opportunity for someone to provide these builds :)
You'd save the money of buying a new quad if Yamaha ever came out with this
Who ever I'd buy this 700rr as well love all the upgrades and the idea that it would come standard
Were keeping our fingers crossed.
That was the first mods I did to my 07 raptor and love it.
All it takes IMO is one new sport quad to kickstart the sport atv market again. Like how yamaha made the YFZ450, all the other manufactures followed suite and made their own 450s. All it takes is one new quad or updated quad and I believe the market will come back.glad to see a new sport quad video, great work!
Yes make it and the 450 a full 50" wide!😀👍
I77deer yeah, that would be all right.
I agree with the making it wider aspect. That's a good chance!
The prototype you guys built looks awesome. Let me know if you need an outside party to come test drive it for you ;)
Thanks for the feedback and for your willingness to put your body on the line for our cameras.
Midwest ATV more ground clearance in the back would be great so we can ride it on the Enduro tracks with the Enduro bikes.
ATVonDemand haha, anytime!
nicodabastard good point! I could see that.
YES!!!! This change would make me finally buy a RAPTOR ‼️‼️‼️ Hits the nail on the main concerns I’ve had with the current one!!
It would finally remove all my hesitancies!!
I really hope Yamaha builds it because I’m SOLD!!!
Perfect, hopefully yamaha takes some notes👍
I think it'd be very well received. Only thing I'd add would be a seat similar to the yfz450 the wide t-shaped seat. Feel like itd be more comfortable for long trail rides
That would be the quad I would choose. Raptor is already awesome. A little wider even better.
I know I would buy it in a heartbeat .
Rmz J we would be in line right behind you.
I love my raptor 700! Keep it alive
They should definitely do this setup I would buy this over a 450 any day !!!!
Jeremy Meier here's betting you wouldn't be the only one.
Let’s get this ATV build! I for sure, would buy it!!
I've been looking at a new raptor for a while. Currently a yfz owner but do mostly trail riding, and have heard that raptors are more tippy so I have held off getting one for a few years. A wider raptor would definitely push me to upgrade!
I LOVE what you guys have done with this prototype Raptor! I have been looking at the Raptor for the last several months and I'm getting very close to purchasing one. I'm not entirely sure if I will hold off on my purchase in hopes of seeing a newer version like this one due to the fact that it will more than likely be a couple of years before it would be released...if at all. :/ Regardless, I just want to give a HUGE shout out to everyone who was involved in this Raptor prototype build! It is absolutely, positively as dialed in of a Sport ATV as anyone could ever hope for. I certainly hope that Yamaha listens and takes action and comes up with something as good (if not better) straight from the factory!!! In the meantime, one of the motorsports dealers that you highlighted should consider offering this incredible machine as a new, straight from the dealership custom package. I realize that this was not an inexpensive machine to build, however I believe that for the serious buyer, there is definitely a demand.
I know how much work goes into creating this machine and filming/narrating a video like this.
Fantastic job guys!
boffin6969 if you were considering buying a raptor pull the trigger. Who knows how long we will wait to see a machine like this or if we ever will. The current raptor is pretty awesome and easy to turn into this. You're correct, widening the machine wasn't exactly cheap however we really tried to max out value for the dollar on the parts we picked. Not by purchasing the least expensive but by using products that offered the most performance and value for the dollar. We're thrilled with the way this machine turned out and really appreciate you watching and giving us your feedback.
I'm late to the party, but hell yes! This beast needs an upgrade!
Got a brand new warrior 350 in 1987 as a teen after my first & only 3 wheeler, which was a Yamaha 225DX. Just starting to ride again after 30 years & Yamaha seems to be making awesome ATVs these days, just like back then. I don't need a race quad but this quad looks amazing
I will never get rid of my 2014 Honda 450R but this thing would be a really good investment that I would definitely purchase if I didn't already have my 450. The more wide Raptor gives you so much more space to toss the thing around, to stay planted, and to get through the trails as well as the track. It is a seriously awesome machine, and I hope Yamaha considers making this a real thing, because you bet your bottom dollar that they would sell like hot cakes.
We think so too!
great video! i have the 2008 raptor 700 and i already installed aftermarket wider arms and axle, its way more better than stock, yes yamaha needs to make the raptor 700 wider now, awesome video joe!
Yes absolutely the first thing I did to my 17 raptor was make it wider.
You broke my heart when I realized it was just a one-off. Me and the guys up here in MN have been waiting for a big bore sport quad revolution!
If Yamaha built this I would buy it no questions asked. It's like if the yfz and raptor had a baby. Absolutely amazing.
Honestly Yamaha step up your game and do it! Ive been waiting for a wider version of the raptor for far too long!!!
David Nolasco yes you have. Yamaha, please help this guy out.
great selling feature ! and the quad market needs a spicing up! i think it would be a hit! we all know the Raptor 700r is the king of the sport atv market! I would love to see a little more power with the wider stance! the Duners should eat it up!
Love this. Just bought a brand new Raptor 2018 and it does seem like it would benefit greatly from wider track
As long as you don't spend all of your time riding on dirt bike trails it's a total win.
Glad to see you guys back on youtube keep up the good work.
wolfie 350 it's been too long.
I was wondering what that was not to be rude just curiosity coming from number 1 fan. By the way do you remember me from other videos.
wolfie 350 heck yeah, we remember chatting with you in the past. Didn't take it as rude. We haven't been as active as we'd like to be lately. Make sure you are also subscribe to our UTV channel so you're getting all of our content.
For sure right now see you there
You guys should totally add this prototype to the market, it would be awesome. And i can seek for everyone when I say that a lot of people are going to buy this quad
SOLD!!!
I'll take one tuned for a 160lbs rider, that rides trail and track; lowest ride stance too.
I used wheel extenders front and rear to get the width of this build. The rear is at 49.5 and the front is at 48.75. Since I only Trail ride and light jumps the wheel extenders work fine. The ride is so much better. More stable in the turns and side hills. I had a YFZ450 and my 700 rides so much like it not that its been widen. Its like having the ride of a 450 with the torque of the 700.
Sign me up! This is exactly what I’m looking for. That’s my only complaint about the raptor is it has a tendency to bicycle in hard / flat turns. I think almost everyone would purchase this over the regular raptor if it was available.
TheRowdyRanger we certainly think a number of people would. Thanks for watching and for your feedback.
For about $800 you can get the +2 Houser arms and Dominator 2 axle. Coupled with offset wheels it makes it over 50 inches wide. This makes it an absolute 450 killer, with an insane feeling of stability. If they built a factory Raptor at that width there’s no doubt more people would stop complaining the Raptor feels “tippy” and buy the Raptor over the YFZ.
We would try to avoid adding additional wheel offset. While we do it on UTVs and ATVs with power steering and smaller ATVs like Blasters of Honda 250X, adding wheel offset increases bump feedback to the rider and makes the machine harder to steer. This is the reason that most top MX racers use the widest A-Arms possible with wheels that are offset inward, which reduces steering effort. To us, offset wheels are a last resort and often not worth the trade-off. Additionally, you have to have your suspension revelved and re-sprung to go wide Just sharing info, not trying to correct you. Thanks for watching and commenting.
ATVonDemand couldn’t agree more, however I run a precision stabilizer and even in the harshest trails I get no feedback. But again that’s another $500 for the stabilizer, so without it, it’s probably best to run stock wheels.
The stabilizer will help on bump feedback but it won't help the increase in steering effort. This might be a good setup for you though and that's what matters most.
ATVonDemand very true! For my conditions fast desert riding width is everything, but yes it takes a little more grunt to move. 😁
Dirt Nasty while widening a raptor will make it handle better, by no means does it create a 450 killer. In order to do that, you'd have to put the machine on a diet to drop the 20+ lbs that the raptor has on the 450's, then you'd not only need to go with the close ratio gearing of a 450, but you'd also need to do cams & a tune to acheive the "lightswitch" like power delivery of a 450 class bike. What you're suggesting is almost like comparing an old dt 400 to an early 2000's yz125.
Excellent build! I love it!! Hey Yamaha, I would buy one
I agree with Yamaha keeping it at 45.5 stock, easy to change for those who 'think' they need it wider... Sitting position, EFI, and proven design/engine is what sold me on my 2016
You've got some valid points. Thanks for sharing your feedback.
I would definitely go buy one of these! I love my YFZ450R but I would have bought a Raptor RR had it been available. Would love to see more R&D in the sport ATV world!
I miss my 660. Always dream of getting another. This is her.
I think that this would be an amazing upgrade to the already awesome bike! I’d like to see this for sale in the future for sure!
I had a 2015 raptor 700 definitely was a upgrade from my 06 700. But i,prefer the yfz 450r wider and lower to the ground handled way better and didn't feel top heavy. Yamaha hopefully will do changes to both,machines for 2019.
We'd love to see some upgrades on both.
ATVonDemand hope they do I would take a loan out for a new one.
Hope they make a wider more stable on turns. its very good, but why not make it better
Love it! This and a duel over head cam perfect 👍
Yes please make one
I agree with the wider, but I hope they don’t get rid of the 450r either bc it is a race ready performer too and I like it a lot. Also very excited for the 200x!
Andreas Angelopoulos we would not want to see the 450 go away either. We don't think this is a replacement for the 450.
Bad ass!
I absolutely love the build of your prototype and I absolutely would buy one if Yamaha came out with one just like this thank you.
Our pleasure! We'd buy one as well.
I had a brandnew 2001 raptor 660r. First complaint was it was tippy and tall feeling. (I was riding a banshee and 85 atc250r) first mods were 20 inch fast trekkers out back n hole shots up front on wider offset front wheels. Spacers in the rear.(axle bent jumping to high). Next mod was i turned the linkage around 180 degrees and lowered the rear alot. Stiffended things up a tad but was by far the most noticable improvement. I miss it for trail rippin but the 05 yfz450 that replaced it was just so awesome i never looked back except wheel banshees n raptors blew the decals off it top speed on gravel roads. My opinion after riding every yamaha atv made since the early 80s ( trizinger. Yt125 n 175. Ytm200e.tym225 . Tri-z . Moto 4 200 225 350 bigbear. Kodiak banshee raptor yfz grizzly plus over 50 mx bikes mostly yamahas.... hers my opinion.... lower it. Widen it. And skidpkate and gytr exhaust system . Pro taper bars.. ( stock bars are so gay wtf....) and yes i made a major mistake and bought a pile of shit POLARIS. Its ALWAYS broken. Wolverine x4 on the way asap.
Yamaha please upgrade our favorite quad of all times , thank you utv great build 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
I love this. They need to get started and manufacture this machine.
We'd love it!
Just awesome.. I will buy one.. I own two YFZ450 now.. A R and a X model.. love to ride.. I am 47 and owned 3 new quads.. 2008 Honda 450r was the first one.. Give consumer what they want Yamaha.. I vote make it..
I’d definitely buy one again , if it came exactly as a starting point as tested !
That would get me back into a Raptor wider and lower seat height would make that bike perfect
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Love these videos I really want to get a quad
NASh Heycott I felt the same way when I was in high school reading dirt Wheels magazine
ATVonDemand could you do a video on best trail atvs
This video is put together very well. Easy and enjoyable to watch along with a good voice narrator. SUBSCRIBED 👍🏻
Wider, lighter and lower rider height will make the raptor a real king of the trails.
this is awesome! looks like im gonna be ordering some parts!
We put up a arts list with prices in the story on our website. We don't add prices to videos because they can change and we want the videos to remain somewhat timeless. You can check out the parts list here. atvondemand.com/prototype-49-5-wide-yamaha-raptor-700-test/
Oh I love this toy so much
Thank you Yamaha for another great product 👍👌😀
They haven't built it yet, but hopefully soon.
That would be a awesome machine for sure. Hope Yamaha listens. I have owned everything from blasters to banshees to 4x4's and now a 700. Diff would love to throw my leg over a factory version of what I'm building. Thanks
Let's see your build!
Definitely build. Would be at the dealer as soon as one arrives
We be looking like a mob of those crazy Black Friday shoppers.
Yes! Yes! Yes! I want one!
That’s exactly what I want. F’n Awesome
A wider raptor rides better out there in the dunes. All raptors’ riders around me had made their raptors wider for better controls on top of the dunes. As you can imagine, shifting your position from side to side is needed in each turn while riding on dunes, thus making the raptor wider will help a lot at critical angles.
dahmoony based in Ohio we don't get to the dunes as often as we'd like. We definitely assume that this machine would work better in the dunes and greatly appreciate your real world feedback.
I would argue the wider wheel base is still beneficial without being in the dunes though. again, I like the 49.5" base you guys went with. Also keeping it under 50" was a good call.
Agree 100% even on normal trails it would be beneficial!
ATVonDemand I widened my 07 700 when I went big bore stroker and built it to an 12.5:1 804cc with 54mm TB with dual pink injectors and a Cuervo Racing 5250 cam Cuervo racing port and polished head. I went +2 LT a arms and an adjustable -2 to +4 axelcaliber axel. I also added a +4 swingarm. It’s still a handful in trails/woods. 98hp 65tq on vp 110 pc5 controller DMC Force 4 Duals.
I think the raptor 700RR would be the best thing out there, I'd buy one in a heartbeat.. I've always been a HUGE FAN of the raptor's!!!!
I love this quad
Yes, we need this one and a 1000RR.
I’d Buy one for sure
Let’s go baby.I would love that atv.MAKE IT Yamaha
I would head to the dealership right this second if Yamaha made this!!!
That would be awesome if Yamaha would make one like this prototype.
We'd love it.
Bring the Sport quads back!!!
By all means! Keep sport quads alive! My 18 year old son is buying a raptor , I’ve had a raptor for a couple years and I’m tired of working on old $#!!. I would buy a 700rr and sell mine for an extremely discounted price to my 14 year old son! Then I would have some incredibly maintained 80s-90s sport quads for sale! We all start from somewhere .
That's cool that you and your son are rocking sport quads. You might have to toss a couple grand to build your own RR. Yamaha doesn't have to do much without competition. The Raptor sells itself. You bring up a good point, compared to the amount of time you spend working on new machines is greatly reduced. Sport quads are also a lot easier to work on than 4x4 ATVs or SXS.
Nice but I think it should go from a 700r too a 1000r now that's something I'd buy
I lowered and widened mine and it handles so amazing. It's almost impossible to roll.
for the right price this could do every well. This is what everyone has been asking for.
Aside from the skid plate and seat cover upgrades there is very little here that should raise the machines retail price. We wouldn't expect Yamaha to add adjustable a arms to it, just build longer ones. Of course, the axle would also have to be reengineering Fritz extra length but the added cost of manufacturing wider a arms in an axle shouldn't be that much. Utilizing the same shocks recalibrated shouldn't add much in the way of cost either. We think it would be a huge win for everyone. Big thanks for watching and commenting.
Excellent video and a great build on the RR! The narrow width of the stock Raptor is the ONLY aspect of the bike that has me debating between the 700R SE and the 450R SE. If the Raptor was wider the 450R wouldn't even be a consideration. Yamaha NEEDS to widen the Raptor! Seeing what you did has put the Raptor back in the hunt as my next bike.
Scott
Hey Scott, glad you enjoyed the video. We keep hoping Yamaha will take note. If you need a little help making your decision, check out our yfz450r vs Raptor 700R shootout video. Then, come back and watch this video again. Both are great machines. We wish we had both in our garage.
@@ATVonDemand Thanks for the help. I appreciate it! I will definitely check out the comparison video.
Scott
Build it! He will come!