Hi Tony, can you think about buying a G-TechPro, this would allow you to do a lot of testing with bottle rocket and other cars before hitting the track for the ultimate test. It seems getting to the track is not always that easy for you, weather, time of year, when tracks are open, track locations, tow vehicle break downs, tracks going up hill, animals that you don't like leaving alone (which I 100% agree with), all the other projects you are working on and you like staying around your area. Get a nice day, find a quiet road, kaboom we have some results, it may not be 100% accurate but will show improvements from modifications done, It would also be a good way to verify how accurate the G-TechPro is. Mount the G-TechPro on dash, make a bracket up to point the camera at G-TechPro and take us for a ride and we can see the real time results as they happen!!! Will end up cheaper than driving to the track all the time to get a time slip :) Your thoughts?
Yup, I agree 1000%, and I'll look into one tomorrow. We have taken Bottle Rocket out a couple of times on the street, and even with the radials there is really no hook at all. BUT you are right in that we can get a tune on every other aspect of the car with a fair degree of accuracy that way.
@@needmetal3221 - Ok I didn't know that, just be a great way to speed up the test process for all us fans, I wonder since the Gtech is a dedicated device it could offer more accurate results, I really don't know, I have a really old one here, you enter in the weight of the car and it can measure 1/4 mile times, 0-60mph, HP and cornering Gs. I am sure the new ones are way more advanced and do way more. Tony to investigate best option. What would be really good is Tony can record it all and give us a running cometary of how things are going, I think another thing to try is a O2 gauge in the car, see how well things tune up Tonys way to the Gauge and see if they agree. Thanks Bruce from NZ
@@needmetal3221 yup, if the phone has a good gravity sensor for an app to work with+use it'll tell G-force vs time pretty good incrementally. there are also units available for radio controlled models that will give you a whole lot of data like that, G force all directions can help a lot with tire selection and suspension setup if you're really into racing.
The biggest appeal to this channel is Tony‘s different views vs most channels that just follow each other. Plus his knowledge and history of things is unmatched.
Back in the late 80's you would hear stories about gentleman like UTG, we respectful called them Gear Heads. They were the guys that you feared to meet their Muscle cars / buillds on the street. The stories were true and made them local legends.
Don't forget the "race"! Build, Race, Break, Repeat. =D Edit: On a side note. I really want to thank you for the information you're sharing with the world. Minds like yours are rare, and you've taught me sooo much when it comes to Mopars. Always wanted to get into them, just didn't know so much about em. I grew up with a father that always talked Chevy talk. It'll be a sad day when you're gone. Atleast you've shared all your knowledge though - Keeping the Mopar dream alive.
Slow down, when he’s gone? Uncle Tony isn’t going anywhere, Uncle Kathy make sure that we are all enjoying him now, wtf with the talk of when he’s gone...
Time for me to ride my hobby horse again: It'd be great if Uncle got all this down in a book. Yeah, it'd be a lot of work but it would be more permanent and easier to access than videos.
Good overview. I been playing with toy cars longer than you have. Not bragging, just for perspective. B-O-P rears were the choice for a long time. Then the 57 Vette showed up with their sheet metal drop out and it was light and tough (for the time) so a lot of those migrated from wrecks to gas coupes below the A/GS and B/GS classes. Ford 9" were originally designed for the Lincoln to keep the floor as low and flat as possible. Tough'ish, but with a marginal pinion angle... And they tend to absorb HP ... The Mopar 8 3/4 was the go-to rear for almost all the stuff we built at A&W Engineering (Santa Cruz) for street and strip duty. We had full steel cars with roll up windows in the 11's occasionally and the 12's all day long. And they drove on the street (not to LA or anything). This is when the Beach Boys and Jan & Dean were on the radio. It is my all time favorite rear, period. Build it right and you will not break it. You can not build enough HP in a street car, even on E-85 , to break a well built 8 3/4 : D
I enjoy this type of build. This is more on line of what an average guy (not wealthy) can afford. Also a potent 318 that has been built is more interesting than some guy buying a crate big block motor and shooting the car down the track. Keep up the good work UT!
Do to a chain of event's I've never owned or worked on a classic mopar. But that being said I do love them and never get sick of hearing utg explain in detail the ins and outs of them great channel keep up the great work.
Tony, you're the only TH-camr besides maybe Derek at Vice Grip Garage who actually builds real BUDGET cars. Everyone else is sponsored with thousands in aftermarket parts, and here you are porting and polishing some crusty iron heads to prove a point. You take the intimidation out of building something, which I think is 90% of what happens with new comers to the hobby. Shit breaks, things might not fit right, you'll make mistakes. That's a part of the process. I wasn't spit out of the womb an expert, and the faster I learned that, the easier learning new skills became.
I don't care if it's been months ago in the comments , I love reading stuff where people Just Make Sense ! Well said . And in regards to intimidation , I just changed out daughters CVT on an 08 Nissan and I'm not a mechanic ! I'm just an old parts changer guy ! Rebuilt from shop in SC and works great , saved couple grand . We will see , but yeah why not try it !
Anyone that hasn’t should read “Zen and the Art of Motorcyle Maintenance”. It explains what separates the pretenders from the contenders, and not just in the mechanical world.
I work and pound and scrounge and modify on my 1964 Dodge Polara with a 74 400 bored 40 over with a 83/4 rear end just to get the feeling I used to get watching 1966 batmobile launch from the bat cave when I was 7 years old. Everyone thinks I’m struggling and swearing and having a hell of a time. Quite the opposite, I’m having a great time. Love you uncle Tony, you are the shit!
I only do Ls boosted shitbox’s, your videos are so good it translates to fuel injection. Watched your video on timing and learned a lot about off idle timing. Thanks for the good content!
"Supposed to take a minute..." Yeah... So true. I couldve built five more cars by now if reality aligned with my initial time estimates!!🤣 Breakage isnt failure. Its just weeding out the weak links. Its progress... Don't let it get you down!!!
Uncle nailed it. I don't even qualify as a shade tree mechanic, and still the number of times I've been stymied by a simple, short job that should've been doable in a few minutes....
...thats not to say we arent entitled to an expletive-filled rant, accompanied by flying tools, and terrified neighborhood children when somthin breaks. But after that, fix it and move on..🤣😂🤣
TONY, you are a "Renaissance Man" of sorts. We (that enjoy your channel) love how brutally honest you are about yourself and car culture as a whole. We are a fringe group, and we appreciate your insight. Thanks Again
Thank you so much UTG for inspiring me to do something I always dreamt. My parents were married back in 1977 in a firebird ta and on their 43rd anniversary I got them a fixer up 1977 firebird formula and they haven’t left it alone since
Super cool speech man, I am working on a 1958 plymouth 318A, just saw your overview of that platform. I am tearing it apart today, its seized. You are inspiring to work on this mil and return it to running! Goes in my 1959 Plymouth Suburban hehe.
I love me a coupe for the looks...but a 4-door pillar car for a spirited drive. A bunch of my mates used to rally when I was a kid, and no-one ever even considered a hardtop, as they were not just more floppy, but also heavier - and when you're on a budget and don't have unlimited power at your disposal, weight vs rigidity vs power becomes a huge issue.
This is why I love your channel! There's a lot more to learn working with unlikely parts. It's like making the best barbeque around with cheap cuts of meat. Now I'm hungry!
Another really great video by the man from Uncle. It has snowed about a total of 4" a few days here in the north of the U.P. of Michigan, so it's refreshing to watch a video about getting your 8 3/4" rear end in gear.
I've been so happy with all the 318's my family has had. They were all workhorse/daily drivers but those were such good engines. Theyve all lasted 250k miles easy with no rebuilds.. mostly the bodies rusted out due to Michigan winters. When I get an older daily driver ill be looking for a 318.
If I had a $1 for every time I said 'this'll only take a few minutes . . .' and it turned into that hours long nightmare, I'd be rich! Rust is The Great Time Monster here in Western PA. Unless it's one of my fair-weather drivers, it's usually a wrestling match to get stuff apart. On another note, love to see you talk about the 9 1/4" axles. Vans and trucks tend to run those, and in the case of a van, the housing is the widest of all and is van-specific. So unless I want to get into more than just an R&R rebuild or upgrade, I need to stick with those. Thanks for some great real-life average car guy tips Uncle Tony!
Hey any chance u could do an episode on how to set up a rear end? Gearing ? Tolerances ? A real how it works and why and the set up of it. Lash etc. it’s one of the only things I’ve never delved into for fear of F’n it up. Thanks T
You do know square socket drain plugs are a test set by the Auto Gods? The sacrifice of plug and socket, along with a little sweat, blood and knuckle skin keeps them sweet. It's part of Auto Karma. Keeps the universe in balance.
Man I’ve wondered forever about all this eight and three quarter rears. All of the different casing numbers had me confused and I didn’t know if I could use different center sections with the different numbers in the same housing
A really smart man said to me don’t buy anything new past 2000 for a daily driver because every thing new is cheep . I’ve worked n the stuff I’ve seen it used it and broke it and let me tell yeah the new stuff is disposable Dixies
To the point !! and some good points made. Watching with interest. Put a smile on my dial when you upgraded the pressure plate springs as i suggested. Thanks for the info on the old 8 3/4 rears. I still run a boheemouth mopar 4speed box behind my BB chev , its great !! Tremic schmemic haha Cheers.
They don’t get it because they are internet mechanics, guys who watch guys like Cleatus McFarland, who have mega dollars that throw mega bucks into their projects. Cleatus doesn’t even do any of the work, he just throws money to the guys in his workshop and they get the job done. Anyone can throw piles of cash into a project and get results because it’s the easy way. Using what you have and developing it is an art that the younger generations just don’t understand.
Put a Barra in it, or some other Aussie Ford six from the 90s. You could go like this.... th-cam.com/video/zmtVyfC_bBo/w-d-xo.html A few USAnians are importing Oz 6s and putting them in Mustangs. This engine is a $300. buy here.
I can attest to your rear end logic as well from a GM stand point. I can only SQUEEK by on a GM 7.5 rear end (G Body) with Drag Radials with a "Stout" SBC350. Being the case, running Full Slicks is certain death and the car is also a Fun Bracket Car.... Build For Purpose...Love ya Unc Tone/Kathy
back decades ago i swapped a challenger 8-3/4" mopar into my poncho that was running a 427 inch rat at around 660hp lz1 with the huge solid cam and no torque below 3k and 4 speed 30lb FW. it had previously ate a series of built 10 bolts , a couple 12 bolts and one dana. this old morpar rear was still in this poncho when i retired the car a couple decades later.
I never once questioned why the 318. If you are looking to get into something without breaking the bank there must be a million cars with a 318. I am holding out for that stroker 400 build though. I remember the MOPAR Action article on the 470 and tell everyone it's a 383, too cool.
The amount of people that jump on me about my Pontiac 350 is insane. I have multiple 400s and 455s. I just like how the 350 performs and a running engine is $200.
Somewhat of a poncho fan here , 350 ain't bad it's just everyone goes for the bigger cubes that are in the same package. Leaves em for guys like you so you can get em cheap 👍
@Hey Yo yeah, there's very little in common between the 301 and the 303. Basically just deck height. The 303 used a 4.121" bore and 2.84" stroke to rev like a banshee. The shorter deck block saves about 40-50lbs over a Chevy 350.
Im a big fan of the 8 3/4". Best of all worlds. Most of all, im addicted to Bottle Rocket. Im going to find one of these, as the coupes are all bought up, and way out of my price point. Really enjoying the unconventional theory behind the 4 speed O. D. trans!
Been there. I had friends that wanted nothing but stock. They never got what I was going for with any build I did. I'm a bit jealous though. Then and now you needed a big budget to be a Mopar guy.
Uncle, could you please make a video on how to setup the centersection, step by step? I have a 742 and wanna change to a different ring and pinion ratio. I'd love to do it myself but I'm not confident on setting up the gears properly.
I've been using my old 60 pickup as a daily. It's been an experience but I'll tell you what, for 60 years on the same 6 cylinder and worn out Muncie, that thing still gets me from A to B. She just does it.. abstract like..
Funny thing - for the straight line cars we always used a 8-3/4, for the circle track - 9.0. Never heard of the 8-3/4 axle brgs you're talking about. Hopefully I'll learn something!
I had a Dana from a '68 B body that was perfect for a 70 Cuda. About 2" narrower, and I relocated the spring perches for the Cuda. just right width for Torque Thrust wheels.
Im too broke to learn lessons that way so when I'm building my big ford mud and trail trucks I try to go as overkill as possible. Costs more upfront but I sleep better knowing the weakest link is me lol. Of course I'm a young man who just bought his first house so I don't have loads of cash either way
I recently bought a 66 fury and wanted to know what diff it had. I noticed the brass tag on one of the nuts and bolts had 323 stamped on it, I'm sure that means it's a 3:23 ratio. The casting had a large 2 and small 2070742 and a small A with a circle around it, just above that casting number. Your explanation cleared up the casting questions I had. Thanks. It seems that this one is plenty strong for what my needs are. This one should be fine for stock 383.
I read 30 or more years ago that successful executives are NOT those who are right all the time. Rather, the successful executives are those who will MAKE A DECISION and then ride out the consequences, right or wrong. So, this is an approach that works.
I know cost is a factor but I would be stepping up to some 35 spline axles. Only one direction your going with a spool and a broken 50 year old a axle. However, it is light and a small block, probably fine.
Uncle Tony, could you take us through the rebuild of the 8 3/4 centre? I know it takes some time but basics would be good...everyone seems to think its a dark art, but its something you can do at home with a little knowledge and patience
We asked for the 318 because they are still available and affordable. I don't think your crowd buys a Hellaphant and goes the Barrett looking for something to drop it in! Always gonna be haters.
LMAO Don't you just love trial and error!!! LOL Love your videos even though I am a Chevy guy , Iam trying to find a 50 ford Pickup. They are hard to find in Canada. I love the look of them!!!!
love the video Tony ! i have a 8 3/4 in my 73 Charger with A833 400 engine (originally 318 - 904 ) i have a vibration at 45 MPH + turned out the driveshaft is short hopefully will go away when extending it , can you do a video about installing the differential pinion bearing and seal install please ( am not a mechanic ) , greetings from Lebanon
The 742 does have a bigger front bearing than the 489 but a smaller rear bearing. A friend of mine builds rears for a living and prefers the 742 over a 489. I think randys ring and pinion reproduces 742 center sections.
You ever worked on the rear axle of a 1955 Dodge Custom Royal? Dad bought it new it 55. It’s time to change the rear axle seals, inner and outer. I have pulled the rear pressed on tapered drum/hubs. Now before I go deeper just looking for any tips.
In a old issue of Hot Rod magazine they were doing a rear end article this was a good 20 years ago they said the 8.3/4 in its stock form was stronger than a Ford 9 inch they said the Dana was the strongest from the big 3 they even said the 8.1/4 was quite strong but the smaller 7 inch Mopar rear they said to avoid at all cost the 8.3/4 LSD has been great for me 20+ years no problems.
Informative video! I have a 8 3/4 rear….276 gear. With the rear wheels off the ground and me turning one tire the other side does not turn. The only time both wheels turn is when I spin the yoke. Is this normal and considered a limited slip rear !!?? Im new at this guys sorry. It’s single traction but I’m confused on why the sides don’t turn at the same time opposite ways when off ground
Hi Tony, can you think about buying a G-TechPro, this would allow you to do a lot of testing with bottle rocket and other cars before hitting the track for the ultimate test. It seems getting to the track is not always that easy for you, weather, time of year, when tracks are open, track locations, tow vehicle break downs, tracks going up hill, animals that you don't like leaving alone (which I 100% agree with), all the other projects you are working on and you like staying around your area. Get a nice day, find a quiet road, kaboom we have some results, it may not be 100% accurate but will show improvements from modifications done, It would also be a good way to verify how accurate the G-TechPro is. Mount the G-TechPro on dash, make a bracket up to point the camera at G-TechPro and take us for a ride and we can see the real time results as they happen!!! Will end up cheaper than driving to the track all the time to get a time slip :) Your thoughts?
Yup, I agree 1000%, and I'll look into one tomorrow.
We have taken Bottle Rocket out a couple of times on the street, and even with the radials there is really no hook at all. BUT you are right in that we can get a tune on every other aspect of the car with a fair degree of accuracy that way.
@@UncleTonysGarage there are some phone apps that measure acceleration as well. From what I hear the good ones are pretty accurate
@@needmetal3221 - Ok I didn't know that, just be a great way to speed up the test process for all us fans, I wonder since the Gtech is a dedicated device it could offer more accurate results, I really don't know, I have a really old one here, you enter in the weight of the car and it can measure 1/4 mile times, 0-60mph, HP and cornering Gs. I am sure the new ones are way more advanced and do way more. Tony to investigate best option. What would be really good is Tony can record it all and give us a running cometary of how things are going, I think another thing to try is a O2 gauge in the car, see how well things tune up Tonys way to the Gauge and see if they agree. Thanks Bruce from NZ
@@needmetal3221 They actually are pretty accurate usually with a modern phone. Surprising how accurate they are.
@@needmetal3221 yup, if the phone has a good gravity sensor for an app to work with+use it'll tell G-force vs time pretty good incrementally. there are also units available for radio controlled models that will give you a whole lot of data like that, G force all directions can help a lot with tire selection and suspension setup if you're really into racing.
The biggest appeal to this channel is Tony‘s different views vs most channels that just follow each other. Plus his knowledge and history of things is unmatched.
Tony lived through 70-90s racing history
A really smart man once said “we choose to accept this challenge, not because it’s easy, but because it’s hard”. JFK I think
He was so smart, he wanted to share his mind with all of Dallas.
@@superduty4556
Ba-da-ting 😁😁
Folks 🤣🤣🤣🤣
My lady says that every time.
Yep, he sure did
I was about to pounce on the "hard" thing but you guys already beat it to it. I'm proud of ya.
Back in the late 80's you would hear stories about gentleman like UTG, we respectful called them Gear Heads. They were the guys that you feared to meet their Muscle cars / buillds on the street. The stories were true and made them local legends.
Don't forget the "race"! Build, Race, Break, Repeat. =D
Edit: On a side note. I really want to thank you for the information you're sharing with the world. Minds like yours are rare, and you've taught me sooo much when it comes to Mopars. Always wanted to get into them, just didn't know so much about em. I grew up with a father that always talked Chevy talk.
It'll be a sad day when you're gone. Atleast you've shared all your knowledge though - Keeping the Mopar dream alive.
Slow down, when he’s gone? Uncle Tony isn’t going anywhere, Uncle Kathy make sure that we are all enjoying him now, wtf with the talk of when he’s gone...
Time for me to ride my hobby horse again: It'd be great if Uncle got all this down in a book. Yeah, it'd be a lot of work but it would be more permanent and easier to access than videos.
Good overview. I been playing with toy cars longer than you have. Not bragging, just for perspective. B-O-P rears were the choice for a long time. Then the 57 Vette showed up with their sheet metal drop out and it was light and tough (for the time) so a lot of those migrated from wrecks to gas coupes below the A/GS and B/GS classes.
Ford 9" were originally designed for the Lincoln to keep the floor as low and flat as possible. Tough'ish, but with a marginal pinion angle... And they tend to absorb HP ...
The Mopar 8 3/4 was the go-to rear for almost all the stuff we built at A&W Engineering (Santa Cruz) for street and strip duty. We had full steel cars with roll up windows in the 11's occasionally and the 12's all day long. And they drove on the street (not to LA or anything). This is when the Beach Boys and Jan & Dean were on the radio.
It is my all time favorite rear, period. Build it right and you will not break it. You can not build enough HP in a street car, even on E-85 , to break a well built 8 3/4 : D
Let's not forget: You let the viewers decide between a 383 and a 318 for Bottle Rocket. The vote was clear, 2 to 1 for the 318!
I enjoy this type of build. This is more on line of what an average guy (not wealthy) can afford. Also a potent 318 that has been built is more interesting than some guy buying a crate big block motor and shooting the car down the track. Keep up the good work UT!
Do to a chain of event's I've never owned or worked on a classic mopar. But that being said I do love them and never get sick of hearing utg explain in detail the ins and outs of them great channel keep up the great work.
Tony, you're the only TH-camr besides maybe Derek at Vice Grip Garage who actually builds real BUDGET cars.
Everyone else is sponsored with thousands in aftermarket parts, and here you are porting and polishing some crusty iron heads to prove a point.
You take the intimidation out of building something, which I think is 90% of what happens with new comers to the hobby.
Shit breaks, things might not fit right, you'll make mistakes. That's a part of the process. I wasn't spit out of the womb an expert, and the faster I learned that, the easier learning new skills became.
Derek's terminology can be so dang funny sometimes too.
I don't care if it's been months ago in the comments , I love reading stuff where people Just Make Sense ! Well said . And in regards to intimidation , I just changed out daughters CVT on an 08 Nissan and I'm not a mechanic ! I'm just an old parts changer guy ! Rebuilt from shop in SC and works great , saved couple grand . We will see , but yeah why not try it !
Drove the 225 64 Valiant today.
Leaning tower of zen.
Anyone that hasn’t should read “Zen and the Art of Motorcyle Maintenance”. It explains what separates the pretenders from the contenders, and not just in the mechanical world.
Dude. Every time I watch a video from you I learn something. You have forgot more than many people will know.
I work and pound and scrounge and modify on my 1964 Dodge Polara with a 74 400 bored 40 over with a 83/4 rear end just to get the feeling I used to get watching 1966 batmobile launch from the bat cave when I was 7 years old. Everyone thinks I’m struggling and swearing and having a hell of a time.
Quite the opposite, I’m having a great time. Love you uncle Tony, you are the shit!
I only do Ls boosted shitbox’s, your videos are so good it translates to fuel injection. Watched your video on timing and learned a lot about off idle timing. Thanks for the good content!
"Supposed to take a minute..." Yeah... So true. I couldve built five more cars by now if reality aligned with my initial time estimates!!🤣
Breakage isnt failure. Its just weeding out the weak links. Its progress... Don't let it get you down!!!
Uncle nailed it. I don't even qualify as a shade tree mechanic, and still the number of times I've been stymied by a simple, short job that should've been doable in a few minutes....
like the old sticker.. "if it jams force it, if it breaks it needed replacing anyway"
...thats not to say we arent entitled to an expletive-filled rant, accompanied by flying tools, and terrified neighborhood children when somthin breaks. But after that, fix it and move on..🤣😂🤣
TONY, you are a "Renaissance Man" of sorts. We (that enjoy your channel) love how brutally honest you are about yourself and car culture as a whole. We are a fringe group, and we appreciate your insight. Thanks Again
Story of my life.. if it ain't broke your not trying hard enough.
Hahahahaha if it was going to brake why not speed it up a bit 😂🤣
Howlingmad Mudduck *you're
JaCk nickolstine *break
" hold ma beeer..."
Thank you so much UTG for inspiring me to do something I always dreamt. My parents were married back in 1977 in a firebird ta and on their 43rd anniversary I got them a fixer up 1977 firebird formula and they haven’t left it alone since
Super cool speech man, I am working on a 1958 plymouth 318A, just saw your overview of that platform. I am tearing it apart today, its seized. You are inspiring to work on this mil and return it to running!
Goes in my 1959 Plymouth Suburban hehe.
Oh goodie ! The "experts".
Great vid Tony.
I love the honesty on this channel, thank you Sir for the lesson.
I love me a coupe for the looks...but a 4-door pillar car for a spirited drive. A bunch of my mates used to rally when I was a kid, and no-one ever even considered a hardtop, as they were not just more floppy, but also heavier - and when you're on a budget and don't have unlimited power at your disposal, weight vs rigidity vs power becomes a huge issue.
This is why I love your channel! There's a lot more to learn working with unlikely parts. It's like making the best barbeque around with cheap cuts of meat.
Now I'm hungry!
Brilliant video mate. Love the nerdyness of this particular video. Keep them coming!!!!
Another really great video by the man from Uncle. It has snowed about a total of 4" a few days here in the north of the U.P. of Michigan, so it's refreshing to watch a video about getting your 8 3/4" rear end in gear.
I've been so happy with all the 318's my family has had. They were all workhorse/daily drivers but those were such good engines. Theyve all lasted 250k miles easy with no rebuilds.. mostly the bodies rusted out due to Michigan winters. When I get an older daily driver ill be looking for a 318.
Do you Tony. Experts will always be on their keyboards.
Lol thats why I just posted a vid on my channel 😂
Shameless plugging son of a gun ,I am
If I had a $1 for every time I said 'this'll only take a few minutes . . .' and it turned into that hours long nightmare, I'd be rich! Rust is The Great Time Monster here in Western PA. Unless it's one of my fair-weather drivers, it's usually a wrestling match to get stuff apart.
On another note, love to see you talk about the 9 1/4" axles. Vans and trucks tend to run those, and in the case of a van, the housing is the widest of all and is van-specific. So unless I want to get into more than just an R&R rebuild or upgrade, I need to stick with those. Thanks for some great real-life average car guy tips Uncle Tony!
Hey any chance u could do an episode on how to set up a rear end? Gearing ? Tolerances ? A real how it works and why and the set up of it. Lash etc. it’s one of the only things I’ve never delved into for fear of F’n it up. Thanks T
Keep up the great work Uncle Tony , you clearly know your stuff !! Nice to see knowledge in action !!
I love bottle rocket and the parts your using and why your using those parts. It's different and thats why it's cool
Any interest, if Bottle Rocket will be ready, to take a shot at the Mopar vs BrandX show down in Alabama in November that Rattymusclecars puts on?
A definite possibility. That's exactly the kind of thing we'd like to run with this car
@@UncleTonysGarage oh man I hope it happens, and know it'll be a scramble to have her ready, especially for un-juiced and juiced both.
You do know square socket drain plugs are a test set by the Auto Gods? The sacrifice of plug and socket, along with a little sweat, blood and knuckle skin keeps them sweet. It's part of Auto Karma. Keeps the universe in balance.
Man I’ve wondered forever about all this eight and three quarter rears. All of the different casing numbers had me confused and I didn’t know if I could use different center sections with the different numbers in the same housing
I really enjoyed this one. I finally understand the differences between the 3 housings
Love this shit. Love hearing about old school automobile engineering.
A really smart man said to me don’t buy anything new past 2000 for a daily driver because every thing new is cheep . I’ve worked n the stuff I’ve seen it used it and broke it and let me tell yeah the new stuff is disposable Dixies
Most of the time it's not using the parts you want,but the parts you have.
To the point !! and some good points made. Watching with interest. Put a smile on my dial when you upgraded the pressure plate springs as i suggested. Thanks for the info on the old 8 3/4 rears. I still run a boheemouth mopar 4speed box behind my BB chev , its great !! Tremic schmemic haha Cheers.
They don’t get it because they are internet mechanics, guys who watch guys like Cleatus McFarland, who have mega dollars that throw mega bucks into their projects. Cleatus doesn’t even do any of the work, he just throws money to the guys in his workshop and they get the job done. Anyone can throw piles of cash into a project and get results because it’s the easy way. Using what you have and developing it is an art that the younger generations just don’t understand.
Cleetus is slowly starting to do more wrenching but I agree with the rest.
I love the people with clean fingernails that know everything 😂🤣😂
If one more person tells me to stop my inline 200 Mustang build, and "Just put a 302 in it." ...
I'm gonna get thrown in prison.
I agree, it is even more aggravating when you are building a 302 and they say LS swap it! ( I like your user name btw👍👍)
Yours with the original 200-6 is the one I really want to see. 302 Mustangs grow on trees.
I'll play your silly game "just put an industrial 300 inline six in it!"
(would scoot pretty hard too for sure)
Put a Barra in it, or some other Aussie Ford six from the 90s. You could go like this....
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A few USAnians are importing Oz 6s and putting them in Mustangs. This engine is a $300. buy here.
It's called Hotrodding....
We have to booger things up once in awhile to learn from our mistakes.
Love the Road Runner Uncle Tony!!!
Ahhh... The game show Weakest Link comes to mind.
I can attest to your rear end logic as well from a GM stand point. I can only SQUEEK by on a GM 7.5 rear end (G Body) with Drag Radials with a "Stout" SBC350.
Being the case, running Full Slicks is certain death and the car is also a Fun Bracket Car.... Build For Purpose...Love ya Unc Tone/Kathy
back decades ago i swapped a challenger 8-3/4" mopar into my poncho that was running a 427 inch rat at around 660hp lz1 with the huge solid cam and no torque below 3k and 4 speed 30lb FW. it had previously ate a series of built 10 bolts , a couple 12 bolts and one dana. this old morpar rear was still in this poncho when i retired the car a couple decades later.
I never once questioned why the 318. If you are looking to get into something without breaking the bank there must be a million cars with a 318. I am holding out for that stroker 400 build though. I remember the MOPAR Action article on the 470 and tell everyone it's a 383, too cool.
Breakage on rodding is expected. Breakage on grocery getters are a pain in the ass...LOL
Uncle your awesome for this knowledge being handed down to us
The amount of people that jump on me about my Pontiac 350 is insane. I have multiple 400s and 455s. I just like how the 350 performs and a running engine is $200.
Plus, 455 and other large journal engines have gotten crazy expensive.
Somewhat of a poncho fan here , 350 ain't bad it's just everyone goes for the bigger cubes that are in the same package. Leaves em for guys like you so you can get em cheap 👍
@Hey Yo We're taking a 78 Pontiac 350, setting baselines and chipping away at it. Overall goal for the car is 10s under 10k.
I really want to chase down a Turbo 301 and build a 303 clone. Gonna be spendy.
@Hey Yo yeah, there's very little in common between the 301 and the 303. Basically just deck height.
The 303 used a 4.121" bore and 2.84" stroke to rev like a banshee. The shorter deck block saves about 40-50lbs over a Chevy 350.
My daily driver breaking is definitely a failure.
The race car breaking in practice means that you know what *won't* break in the race.
Just the video I needed right now. Thanks Tony!
Im a big fan of the 8 3/4". Best of all worlds. Most of all, im addicted to Bottle Rocket. Im going to find one of these, as the coupes are all bought up, and way out of my price point. Really enjoying the unconventional theory behind the 4 speed O. D. trans!
Been there. I had friends that wanted nothing but stock.
They never got what I was going for with any build I did.
I'm a bit jealous though. Then and now you needed a big budget to be a Mopar guy.
Just a four door Taxicab? One of the holy grails for me would be a 1970 Fury I factory taxi package with a 318. Just try to find one of those....
Uncle, could you please make a video on how to setup the centersection, step by step? I have a 742 and wanna change to a different ring and pinion ratio. I'd love to do it myself but I'm not confident on setting up the gears properly.
If it ain't broke, you ain't tryin.
UT has reached his tolerance for keyboard experts lol
This is exactly why they say, don't take your rear end fluid out until you take the plug out first. If you cannot put oil in you are screwed....
Nice new jacket uncle T I see you went up a size 👍
Keep up the good work!
We need more old school tech like this please
Holy crap tony! That was a good show man! What got into you!? These are the kind of shows you need to start doing.
I've been using my old 60 pickup as a daily. It's been an experience but I'll tell you what, for 60 years on the same 6 cylinder and worn out Muncie, that thing still gets me from A to B.
She just does it.. abstract like..
Funny thing - for the straight line cars we always used a 8-3/4, for the circle track - 9.0. Never heard of the 8-3/4 axle brgs you're talking about. Hopefully I'll learn something!
I had a Dana from a '68 B body that was perfect for a 70 Cuda. About 2" narrower, and I relocated the spring perches for the Cuda. just right width for Torque Thrust wheels.
Im too broke to learn lessons that way so when I'm building my big ford mud and trail trucks I try to go as overkill as possible. Costs more upfront but I sleep better knowing the weakest link is me lol. Of course I'm a young man who just bought his first house so I don't have loads of cash either way
I build and try not to break cause I PORE.
in the wise words of Bob Ross, "we dont make mistakes, just happy little accidents."
Build Break Repeat . 🤔
Just Empty Every Pocket !
Race and replace. I like the roadrunner. Imagine going to remove that drain plug with the rear end installed.
I recently bought a 66 fury and wanted to know what diff it had. I noticed the brass tag on one of the nuts and bolts had 323 stamped on it, I'm sure that means it's a 3:23 ratio. The casting had a large 2 and small 2070742 and a small A with a circle around it, just above that casting number. Your explanation cleared up the casting questions I had. Thanks. It seems that this one is plenty strong for what my needs are. This one should be fine for stock 383.
I read 30 or more years ago that successful executives are NOT those who are right all the time. Rather, the successful executives are those who will MAKE A DECISION and then ride out the consequences, right or wrong.
So, this is an approach that works.
What a wealth of knowledge.......
Let's scroll to the bottom to check out the jerk comments.....
I know cost is a factor but I would be stepping up to some 35 spline axles. Only one direction your going with a spool and a broken 50 year old a axle. However, it is light and a small block, probably fine.
Uncle Tony, could you take us through the rebuild of the 8 3/4 centre? I know it takes some time but basics would be good...everyone seems to think its a dark art, but its something you can do at home with a little knowledge and patience
We asked for the 318 because they are still available and affordable. I don't think your crowd buys a Hellaphant and goes the Barrett looking for something to drop it in! Always gonna be haters.
LMAO Don't you just love trial and error!!! LOL Love your videos even though I am a Chevy guy , Iam trying to find a 50 ford Pickup. They are hard to find in Canada. I love the look of them!!!!
Tony. Love that 318. Want to put it in my 65 Dart.
Uncle Tony for President!!!
Uncle Tony needs to flip his flag around first. Back side out is a no-no.
@@413x398 The union should always be to the observer's left, whether the flag is vertical or horizontal. Tony has it hanging correctly.
@@buffdelcampo That's a bummer for the millions of Americans (and politicians) who have them hanging the other way. I say... CIVIL WAR!!
Never disappointed with UTG
love the video Tony ! i have a 8 3/4 in my 73 Charger with A833 400 engine (originally 318 - 904 ) i have a vibration at 45 MPH + turned out the driveshaft is short hopefully will go away when extending it , can you do a video about installing the differential pinion bearing and seal install please ( am not a mechanic ) , greetings from Lebanon
Build try not to break and build more but it never works that way, your right build and love as you build......
Personally I blame squirrels
Squirrels are fast... Sometimes cats have trouble catching them...and cats have dana 60s lol
@Hey Yo 🐿🐿🐿🐿😘
@Hey Yo 🐿🐿🐿
@@oldpolak5203 The reason they are always happy!😁😁
@@oldpolak5203 😂
Can we get a tips and tricks for head gasket replacement? Also checking heads on a budget? I've got a sbc giving me a headache.
Does the 742 case have a larger front bearing? It seems that the front pinion bearing was always a weakness on the Mopars.
The only pinion bearing problems with these rears (that I'm aware of) usually center around people trying to reuse the crush collar on the 489's.
The 742 does have a bigger front bearing than the 489 but a smaller rear bearing. A friend of mine builds rears for a living and prefers the 742 over a 489. I think randys ring and pinion reproduces 742 center sections.
Yep... I was wondering if it had a driveshaft loop, LOL.
Getting one now
I see you got the truck frame for the gambler car
You ever worked on the rear axle of a 1955 Dodge Custom Royal?
Dad bought it new it 55.
It’s time to change the rear axle seals, inner and outer.
I have pulled the rear pressed on tapered drum/hubs. Now before I go deeper just looking for any tips.
Green axle bearings work great when you break an axle. so what is recomended with Super stock Springs then? a pinion snubber?
In a old issue of Hot Rod magazine they were doing a rear end article this was a good 20 years ago they said the 8.3/4 in its stock form was stronger than a Ford 9 inch they said the Dana was the strongest from the big 3 they even said the 8.1/4 was quite strong but the smaller 7 inch Mopar rear they said to avoid at all cost the 8.3/4 LSD has been great for me 20+ years no problems.
Right on
"489", remember this number.
and 420
I run an 8 3/4 in my altered, solid mounted. The thing takes serious abuse.
Thanks from one Tony to another Tony. ;)
Tony, i know fugall about cars. but I like your videos. keep it up man.
Uncle tony please make a video about the Ford 302. I would love to hear your opinions about that.
Informative video! I have a 8 3/4 rear….276 gear. With the rear wheels off the ground and me turning one tire the other side does not turn. The only time both wheels turn is when I spin the yoke. Is this normal and considered a limited slip rear !!?? Im new at this guys sorry. It’s single traction but I’m confused on why the sides don’t turn at the same time opposite ways when off ground