Agreed! Another one of my favorite youtube personalities, Derek @ Vice Grip Garage, has one of the worst intros! that stupid music he used in his intro makes me want to strangle something.
Preach it Tony! I get a sick feeling in my stomach everytime I see a Cuda with coilovers or a Demon with a 9inch. It shows a deep misunderstanding of some of the best bits of these special cars. It also shows a lack of resistance to fads and marketing. It reminds me of the Dude who showed up at Chryslers at Carlisle years ago with a big dollar, pro built 32 Plymouth. Really well built car, million dollar purple paint, fancy interior etc. But he wouldn't open the hood. When he finally did there was a 350 Chevy and a Turbo 350 in it. His excuse? "That's what everybody puts in streetrods nowadays!" It was a great car but it was forever known as "The Baby With The Baboon Heart".
Is it just me, or is it super weird to see Uncle Tony kneeling down on that clean polished cement floor, instead of on cracked asphalt, gravel and rain puddles???
Fun Fact: For the movie Bullitt Max Balchowski had to reinforce the Mustang's front end and install heavier coils. For the Charger, he just turned the bars up a bit.
Fun Fact.....the original Vanishing Point Challengers were unmodified for the shoot. Nothing was done to them, even for that jump scene through the construction zone. Great stuff👍
The 390 in the bullet mustang was stroked and camshaft swapped to get it to be fast enough to keep up with the 440 charger as well. I remember reading about it in an article about the cars used in the movie.
@@MrTheHillfolk when Mopar was all Mopar they did some amazing, outlandish things....it was one of the main reasons I got into them. It didn't take much to make them fast, plus they seem to love funky colors ( all of them.....you could throw Panther Pink on an Imperial and it would look good ). Any self respecting Mopar Head knows the unmistakable sound of a big block/manual trans combo going up through the gears....
In Nascar guys would cut holes in the floor so they could adjust the torsion bars from inside the car, using the wrench under their leg. After start of race, lowering it to go faster and then jack it back up for tech at the end.
One Plymouth racer decided he needed a motorhome for his wife to set in at the races. But the real reason was he could hide a chest freezer in the motorhome. In that freezer he kept shocks and "Jigs" to hold the shocks at a predetermined length. . The frozen shocks held the Plymouth up for the final NASCAR ride height inspection. After the shocks thawed out the car would drop several inches.
Geez Tony, bringin back memories of my youth. I remember doing a grade 10 science project on Chrysler torsion bar suspension and how it differs from traditional suspension on the other manufacturers vehicles. Luckily, I had a future brother in law who, with his dad, had a garage full of mid sixties and early seventies Dodges. He was able to lend me some of the parts involved so I could show the different components in class. It was cool and I got an A on the project. Thx for the memories 👍
Haven't had a MOPAR since my mom's 1969 Dodge Monaco 383 Sure Grip wagon when I was a kid, but for huge American iron, that car would handle! I remember learning on it tossing it through the local twisties with its mammoth dimensions. Driving friend's Fords and Chebbies, I was amazed at how they wallowed and bucked and needed to be rushed by hanging their tails out like drift cars. The Monaco just got down to business and went where you put it when you pressed the loud pedal. And got an honest 18 MPG moving the longest 9-passenger wagon built at the time. I loved that car, and it was happier at 100 than anything I've driven that fast since. Wish I had one now. Thanks for the memories, Uncle!
Torsion bar comment classic. When I was in high school I had a 70 charger L code 383 2 barrel. Wanted a classic rake look. Didn't have money for air shocks so I just lowered the front end using the torsion bar adjustment. A few months later took my car to alignment shop for a front end alignment. The guy was bitching at me saying he was going to charge me more money cuz he had to raise my car up to the proper level. The good old days.
Glad to see you at home in the new shop!!!! I'm a Chevy guy ,but right now I drive a Jeep. I love all makes of car and trucks!! I am looking for my dream truck...about a 50 Ford Pick Me Up!!! LOL You got to love old Iron!!! LOL
I was leaving a car show in my '79 Chrysler 300 and behind me was a 63 I think 300 letter car, white, dual quads, swivel seats, under dash turntable. We both entered the highway, Route 1A Saugus Massachusetts. He pulls up on my drivers side, looks at me, counts 1-2-3, we both floor the gas pedal and his entire car rose 3-4 inches and took off like a jet.🙃🤪
You know this story is going to be good when UT start's the video off in a rocking chair, that's when you sit back and just shut up and listen to him!! :D
I have never heard such a good explanation or positive things to say about torsion bars, Uncle Tony is awesome at knowing and explaining the ins and outs of these cars! Fun and educational watch.
Amen to everything!!! I absolutely love the way a torsion bar suspension launches, that weight transfer, then the push up from the rear, they leap frog of the line and then plane out straight. Damn!
@@cammontreuil7509 I’m doubtful electric cars will be around for a long time once they’re the norm. There’s far more oil in the ground than Lithium and Cobalt.
A lot sooner than that, burning gasoline in an engine will get you put on a list and your assets will be redistributed to people who vote for handouts. If you are famous, you will of course be cancelled by the relatively small portion of the country that does social media.
I Just Want too say a huge thanks too UTG for the info on buying these cars , and what to watch out for, concerning the seller’s and the cars. Excellent info ! Buyer beware. Thanks pal.
It's a brilliant design. I have a 57 300C that had a lot of the firsts in engineering that evolved into greater things in the 60s. My first primer into how brilliant Mopar engineering, is years ago reading Rick Ehrenberg's articles, then found a gem of a book by Tom Condran called Performance Handling For Classic Mopars and his other book Mad About Mopars gives great insight into the greatness of Chrysler engineering. Because of those books and articles I rebuilt and modified the suspension on several of my Mopars over the years....
My Dad and his buddy had two of them in the early 60s when they were cheap and nobody wanted them. It's the car that turned my Dad onto being a Mopar guy, and then me when I grew up hearing the stories of all the races he got into on the highways of SoCal and even leaving the Ford police intercepters in the dust! Now I've got a collection of mopes and other stuff about as big as Uncle Tonys hoard!!
Ive always wondered how a mopar would handle on a circle track and wish I had of tried it. EVERYONE runs chev frames/suspension with screw jacks on all four corners and I thought why not a mopar, they basically came from the factory with the same idea but would get laughed out of the idea.
@@kevinmopar1211 at my local dirt track they run a 6 cylinder class that uses a very similar chassis to a super stock but they run straight 6 engines, most everyone uses chevy 258's but I remember one guy thought why not try a slant 6 because the way it's slanted would let him sling the car around the corners easier because there was more weight on that side, well he did just that. The guy won a lot of races that season and they made new rules saying you had to add 100lbs of weight on the nose on the opposite side to ballance it out. He argued that wasn't fair because he was already at a cubic inch disadvantage but they didn't care. Nobody at the track has run a slant 6 since but everyone remembers what he did with it.
I love all classic 60s and early 70s cars, especially GM cars like the Camaro, GTO, 442, Firebird. My brother and cousin were Mopar fans, (no competition, I love Mopars too). So I am familiar with these cars and how to work on them. I am so impressed with UT. He is a true classic car enthusiast and knows all the tricks and details that comes from working on them for decades.
Those of us who lived in the Rust Belt had to throw away our Darts and Valiants when the mounting points for the torsion bars rusted out and dropped the front end onto the ground.
Good God I almost forgot about that you’re right they were the biggest pieces of shit ever made I remember us being a teenager they were the worst I know Mopar guys love them and I love the shape of their cars but you could keep that shit torsion bar front end. U feel every pebble on the road
I couldn't agree more! This is something I discovered on my first car, when I was still a teenager. That old girl would sit level no matter how aggressive you took a corner. The limiter was my nerve!
My auto shop instructor back in 1972 ( my junior year) was a complete MOPAR man. He drove a brand new 1971 Dodge Dart. His car was on the lift one day to show us his Torsion bar front suspension. The entire class was taught the reason why then and there exactly what Tony was showing us in this video. The instructors name was Anthony Chesto. An 8 fingered Italian dude. ( Lost two in an unfortunate fan belt incident) . To this day I remember him as if I had a Auto- Shop guardian angel looking over me throughout my career as an auto body Tech. I was the only kid in that 1973 graduating class to go on and own a shop if my own. Thank you Tony. You're echo of wisdom will resonate throughout a generation if young mechanics. Well done video. I'm a subscriber now .
You have a wonderful way of explaining all things automotive ! You obviously like what you do,and your enthusiasm is contagious.. Thanks so much Sir ! 🌞
Tony, remember Chrysler built tanks for the War Department then DoD and since WWII the tanks suspension was torsion bar type over vertical or horizontal valute spring suspension thus made the tanks very maneuverable on the battle field and could run at faster speeds in battle, so it makes sense the MaMopar went with torsion bar suspensions over coil springs in their cars also most pick up truck have torsion bar suspensions today because of the reliability of the torsion bar suspensions.
Ladder bars are traction bars that work. Or the more modern caltrac bars. The old lakewoods work well enough on the street but at a sticky dragstrip not so well. Chrysler also used a pinion snubber which worked well at the dragstrip.
Ladder bars have leverage on their side compared to caltracs or lakewoods they have less flex as well. Ideally you would want the the end of the ladder bars as close to the front wheels as possible with ground clearance. They use the twist of the rear axle to lift the front of the car up and further transfer weight to the rear wheels. Lakewood's and caltracs all work at the front leaf spring perch which shoves the rear wheels into the pavement and keep the leaf spring from wrapping into an S shape. Traction bars help promote traction ladder bars promote traction and transfer weight.
Mopars commonly used pinion snubbers rather than traction bars. They also mounted most of the rear leaf spring behind the axle unlike the mid size Fords did. Old drag race videos would often show the rear end of the body of Mopars lifitng rather than squatting when they were launched, because of how the springs would "wind up"
As a kid we had a 1972 station wagon that broke a torsion bar on the passenger side...I still remember how loud it was....my first car a '77 Aspen R/T with a 360 had the torsion bars that went towards the front...I ended up replacing the 904 trans with the 727 from that station wagon when I was 16...I always liked the torsion bar setup.... Great Video 👍
I love torsion bars and I hate torsion bars. Love that they can be adjusted to dial in at the track. Hate that any idiot can put a wrench to them. Same for adjustable coil overs. If you feel the need to adjust them by all means have at it. Just be aware that camber and toe will be affected. Also it's good practice to always Jack up the vehicle by the frame until the tires are off the ground to unload the bars before turning the adjustment bolts.
I love MOPAR! Hey, Tony, get some 1/4 inch plywood to put under your jack stands to protect that floor. They are tough put the base of the jack stand will cut the surface in time. I learned that the hard way. Mike
I noticed that nice, new epoxy floor too. It looks great and has to be a nice change for Uncle Tony to work on and slide around under cars without getting his shirt and pants all dirty with oil and grease. He definitely deserves it.
Another Chrysler innovation that everyone else copied years later. I still remember all the guys making fun of the wee wee wee sound back then. They just didn't understand.
Was doing rear break band replacement on a 1969 road runner , so of course back end was up on stands , i herd a loud BAM. Right front torsion bar broke. Had to order part even though this was in 1976 . put a put a deep well socket up in the adjustment area and drove it like that for a week untill my new torsion bar came in. MOPAR.
I drive a 2015 Ford Mustang GT, but here I am getting schooled on how great Mopar torsion bar suspensions are. It's simple really: When Uncle Tony tells a story, you listen.
I've watched this multiple times. It's amazing how nice this car is underneath...... I'm from NJ they are rotted to hell or beat to hell. No one comments on that not even you uncle Tony!! But I mean that as a compliment. Good on you for not rubbing it in our faces but you scored!!!
That was awesome Uncle Tony! Wisdom and Mopar go hand in hand. Between both sets of grandparents growing up there was a 69 Fury, 73 Duster, 72 Dart Swinger and 78 Diplomat. My parents fell for the GM hierarchy for years (start at Chevy and go to Oldsmobile or Cadillac years later) Those GMs were nice but in the shop a lot. I never remember the grandparents mopars with any trouble. Just simple, strong, tough and reliable cars. A Duster may not be as sexy as a Cutlass but it was hell of a lot more reliable.
Porsche 911 used torsion bars front and rear. Every corner is adjustable. Great when it is set up correctly. You need scales, though. First time Hearing Chrysler used them. Neat to see them being used for adjusting corner weight for drag racing.
circle track we experimented cuz you could jack the weight on the rf for the corners. was great till they run the other direction and you'd find out on the pace lap
Hi uncle tony, thank you for your information and knowledge because I am self taught it’s so interesting to me to learn that you can do so much with mopar’s by making adjustments especially the way the rear is centered and torsion bars just great 👍👍🚘
Nice new shop! I love this episode. Torsion bars are cool. I read that Ford and, GM drag racers that had to run stock complained about the Chrysler guys using slant six torsion bars on much bigger engine set ups. But, it fit the rules because it is factory. Huge weight transfer on launch! I don’t know how much of that is true in an old story but, you definitely touched on the topic. The rear leaf spring set up too. Thanks for sharing!!!
Lucky me, my dad spent a whole lot of time rebuilding cars and trucks. Sadly, he had never done much with MOPARS. Some time back he owned some kind of station wagon, either a Dodge or Plymouth, something from the early 60's, not sure what year. When I came home from the USAF with a 76 New Yorker, he was so blown away he just fell in love with them. Sadly, he died before he could do anything with any of them because soon after ward he had a stoke and died.
When I first heard about torsion-bar suspension, I thought it was the most brilliant thing I'd ever heard of, suspension-wise. Simple, elegant, and nearly perfect. It just makes sense.
I just watched this for the first time and I was laughing out loud about to story about adjusting the torsion bars on the wagon. Thanks Tony for brightening up my day! 🤣
UTG!!!!’ First off.... I own a 67 mustang and with that being said you are my GO TO TH-cam mechanic!! Your patience and knowledge is AMAZING!! Your break down of your videos and making it easier for the non mechanic people watching is so helpful. Thank you for these videos and I wish you nothing but continued success.
Most Volkswagen bugs had torsion bar suspension but are an entirely different car. My 71 super beetle was the first model with the McPherson strut front suspension. Uncle Tony is a treasure trove of Mopar knowledge. Probably all cars but Mopars are definitely his love.
First thing I noticed driving my 70s a body was just how great the ride felt. Bench seats definitely help, but even running it over train tracks full speed it would come up, smoothly go down, and settle out immediately. No bouncing, no rocking, just a single smooth movement.
Story time from Uncle Tony's rocking chair. Great informational video! Great camera work Uncle Kathy! The new shop is lookin' really good. ROLL UP YOU CIGARETTE!!! LOL
One of the things that I always go back to is the holes in the head that have are large enough to pull lifters out without removing the intake. They were always so simple to work on until the emissions era hit.
I never knew what was the big Mopar thing until I owned one. Chevy everything till I bought a d100 shortbed with a 318 4 barrel and full length headers and Flowmaster 40s .That truck ripped and sounded even better. That day I knew.
@@jonathanlawson4667 so they're giving out "master technician" in craker jack boxes now hey? Please. Apparently passing grade one English wasn't one of your accomplishments either. trust me, child I've built more last weekend than you have in the 12 years you've been on this planet. I've forgotten more about mechanics than you'll ever know, son.
My dad had a valiant and is the car he talks the most of he absolutely loved it had the slant 6 in it and said no matter how hard he tried he couldn’t kill it.
Another great feature of the torsion bars is there’s very little intrusion into the engine bay. So it allowed Chrysler (or the owner) to shove even bigger engines under the hood. Ford and GM had massive strut towers to work around or even remove completely. I’ve seen guys hack them out and replace it with a Model A front axle from the hotrods.
For my 20 years of life on this planet i was born and raised and gm guy. Ive always loved mopars but always visualized them as way to expensive and I usually tended to just stay in my own lane with the GMs. Recently picked up a 73 satellite with a 318 and its been my daily driver since. Dirt cheap slow sedan but it really got me into mopars. Gonna do some work based off bottle rockets budget 318. Thanks uncle tony for making the most relatable content on youtube!
Torsion bar advice; I've always looked at it like adding & subtracting minutes .. 15min at a time.. Now drive a bit.. measure bottom of fender to ground using center of wheel to line up to .. after you figure this out, what height looks good to you.. I add 3/4" more height to my side due to body weight.. I run my Dart low enough to make sure water will come off windshield from the middle and up.. this angle also, at speed will push the car Down, curing front end lift.. I've had my own Dart above 110Mph with minimal lift or lighting of Steering feel.. peace humans..
Love torsion bars! Picked up a ‘68 Chrysler Newport for $300 due to a bad lean on the driver’s side. It was sagging so low everyone was scared of it. I looked underneath and saw the torsion bar was fine, so I paid the guy and shook his hand. I drove it off the lot and found a parking lot, pulled in there, slipped under the car and cranked up the adjustment until it was level. The car was excellent. What non-Mopar people didn’t know gave me a great deal. I laughed about it many times. That car was one of my favorites.
@@johnwilburn I’m north of Phoenix AZ at the “Gateway to the Sonoran Desert”. I’ve never been to the New River Valley VA but I’d bet it’s a great spot !
OUTSTANDING video, thank you! Packard had the torsion bar suspension. My friend has a mid 50s model, and it’s one of the most surprising cars ever. Lockup torque converter and many other features. The remarkable torsion bar suspension allows it to take off ramps at more than 70 mph, in a mid 50s automobile it’s beyond belief. Astounding. Shame the brand didn’t survive...
Hi Tony, I had an Eldorado that had front torsion bars. At one point I thought it was riding to high and I adjusted them lower. The Olds Toronado and the Eidorado used torsion bars up until 1978. And lets not forget that the VW Beetle used torsion bars also. Not saying anything negative about Mopar but your video reminded me how easy it was to adjust my Eldorado's ride height.
Excellent description and demonstration Tony! The "Engineer's Car" is what Dad said, and is why he bought Chrysler in '67, after having always been a Chevy man.
Yeah I remember in the mid 90s looking a the new Dodge Dakotas and they had torsion bars. Also even many 2500 and 3500 Chevys used torsion bar front suspension.... not sure if they still do to this day though.
When he was talking about the beefy married couple and their 70 satellite wagon, it reminded me of a 76 hornet sportabout wagon my Dad bought from a couple who were hefty as well. The car was about 4 years old when he bought it, with the driver's side of the front bench seat already beginning to waddle out due to the weight of the super hefty couple. The seat springs were just beginning to displace from the immense weight of the driver. The passenger side was getting the same treatment but held up a little bit better. But the front end was really sagging; especially the driver's side. New shocks didn't help. Going on anything other than a paved street could be difficult as the front end would catch the ground if you weren't careful. Loved that 258 straight 6 and the radio was killer for that time and era.
In looking up on this chassis torsion bar suspension, had to research chassis diagrams A-body 62Dart. (Grampa's ride) Got factory diagrams and understood this concept applied. NO COIL SPRINGS. Helped mfg torsion bars for Tanks yrs ago.. thanks for the short seminar for understanding Mopar chassis.
we use an aluminium gooseneck from a BMX bike to hold the torsion bar while you tap it back...I use the prise method when pulling the front end apart..thanks for the info Uncle Tony
First car, in 1982... 1973 Plymouth Satellite 4dr, green on green with a green vinyl top. 318 4bbl 727 TF. Once I slipped headers and Thrush glasspacks on it, and some tuning, I could spin H series on aluminum jelly bean rims almost as long as I wanted - or as much as I could afford to replace those expensive tires.
Wow....that floor. There is a glare its so shiny. The shop i work in has floors real nice like that. We bought delron crane landing pads to put our jack stands on so the legs of the stands wouldn't cut into the epoxy. Also, the pads keep the metal off the floor. The jack stands usually have scraps and scratches in the bottom of the legs. The scraps expose bare metal, when they sit on the floor for a bit the rust. The rust stains the floor. Having the pads under them also helps keep from staing the fllor with rust.
I watched every bit of that video and now I finally understand torsion bars! My 64 Dart will be set up for handling so most likely I’ll go up in diameter! Wow, love me some Chrysler engineers!
I've had 2 go on separate 72 Barracuda's. Don't pull into a snow bank and leave the front end parts buried in the fluff and then back over the ice encrusted mound a bit later in the dead of winter. That will test 'em. The second was random, pulled into a parking spot and shut the car off and then BANG! They sound like an m80 going off under your car. Made a nice removal tool with 2x4's for the donor car, when they break, they pop themselves loose and come right out.
Being from Tennessee, I love my many friends from New York. Most have a great accent and love being here. Low taxes and cost of living giving them a love for Tn.
One of the most important things about torsion bars is the screw on one side adjust the opposite side. Lifting one side lift the other side a little bit too. The alignment process started by checking the ride hight at the frame and adjusting the torsion bars. Then toe caster and camber is adjusted.
Thank you , thank you ,thank you. I'm a GM guy and in working on my first in depth 1969 satalite with a 440 but was born with a 6 cylinder. Rebuilding the front end and was worried about getting the tbars out correctly. Your explanation is by far the best I have found after watching many videos. Gives me to the point what info I needed. This cars title says roadrunner but vin says satalite , so not really sure. It has rr emblems on the doors but no meep meep horn. The 440 is a 1970 single 4 bbl , have not looked up head numbers yet. A 727 trans , not sure about rear gear or posi yet. Either way still a cool car and am enjoying working on this beast. Headers , electronic ignition and a edlbrock carb , I need to run its numbers too. Thanks a million , looking forward to tuning this beast in.👍👍🏁🏁 And no sway bar.
Just to add a tad. About those Dodge & Plymouth 76-80 F & G Body "Transverse Torsion Bar" set up. For those that don't know. The whole thing was integrel as a front suspension, in that the K Frame could be unbolted/removed and the entire assembly would be stand alone. I have seen them used for Street Rod Front Suspension much like GM F & G Body Sub Frames or the much later 92-2011 Crown Vic Modular front suspension.
Yrp! Thanks UT for touching on this!. I love the front torsion bar design. We fooled around a bit with them on a cousins street/stripper. And I recall one ford kid trying to tell us we needed to swap the whole rear out for Ford and buy traction bars. But there was never a need. It didn't have the same problems his did. Very cool UT
I like that uncle tony doesn’t have a stupid intro straight to the point 👍
Yes, I can't stand when they feel like they need to start with blaring music and a pointless intro.
YES!!!
No 30 second techno music filled waste of time!
@@MoparRob440 Yes, I agree. No BS music, logos, other garbage. Nobody wants to see that stuff. UT just gets right to the Point !
Agreed! Another one of my favorite youtube personalities, Derek @ Vice Grip Garage, has one of the worst intros! that stupid music he used in his intro makes me want to strangle something.
Preach it Tony! I get a sick feeling in my stomach everytime I see a Cuda with coilovers or a Demon with a 9inch. It shows a deep misunderstanding of some of the best bits of these special cars. It also shows a lack of resistance to fads and marketing. It reminds me of the Dude who showed up at Chryslers at Carlisle years ago with a big dollar, pro built 32 Plymouth. Really well built car, million dollar purple paint, fancy interior etc. But he wouldn't open the hood. When he finally did there was a 350 Chevy and a Turbo 350 in it. His excuse? "That's what everybody puts in streetrods nowadays!" It was a great car but it was forever known as "The Baby With The Baboon Heart".
Good job Tony, a walking and talking Chrysler encyclopedia.
he really is
Yep 👍
The next mark worman 👍🇺🇸
Is it just me, or is it super weird to see Uncle Tony kneeling down on that clean polished cement floor, instead of on cracked asphalt, gravel and rain puddles???
It's not just you.
Lmaooo imagine when he’s working with a lift
we are get used to what we see often, but as for UT's new locale, its just a factor of being good--all things change for the better.
He paid his dues for sure! Lol
It's just you.
Fun Fact:
For the movie Bullitt Max Balchowski had to reinforce the Mustang's front end and install heavier coils. For the Charger, he just turned the bars up a bit.
Fun Fact.....the original Vanishing Point Challengers were unmodified for the shoot. Nothing was done to them, even for that jump scene through the construction zone. Great stuff👍
@@hoost3056 supposedly the Ford trucks used in Mr Majestyk weren't modded either.
What a hammering they got.
The 390 in the bullet mustang was stroked and camshaft swapped to get it to be fast enough to keep up with the 440 charger as well. I remember reading about it in an article about the cars used in the movie.
@@MrTheHillfolk when Mopar was all Mopar they did some amazing, outlandish things....it was one of the main reasons I got into them. It didn't take much to make them fast, plus they seem to love funky colors ( all of them.....you could throw Panther Pink on an Imperial and it would look good ).
Any self respecting Mopar Head knows the unmistakable sound of a big block/manual trans combo going up through the gears....
Yeah they beat that mustang to death. The Charger kept on going.
In Nascar guys would cut holes in the floor so they could adjust the torsion bars from inside the car, using the wrench under their leg. After start of race, lowering it to go faster and then jack it back up for tech at the end.
One Plymouth racer decided he needed a motorhome for his wife to set in at the races. But the real reason was he could hide a chest freezer in the motorhome. In that freezer he kept shocks and "Jigs" to hold the shocks at a predetermined length. . The frozen shocks held the Plymouth up for the final NASCAR ride height inspection. After the shocks thawed out the car would drop several inches.
lol no way
You obviously don’t know how torsion bars are adjusted, no way you could reach it from inside the car
@Nick Varelli nope different guy, in the 80’s I raced in Saskatchewan & Alberta
tony barracuda Not if the adjuster is flipped over. Very easy.
Geez Tony, bringin back memories of my youth.
I remember doing a grade 10 science project on Chrysler torsion bar suspension and how it differs from traditional suspension on the other manufacturers vehicles. Luckily, I had a future brother in law who, with his dad, had a garage full of mid sixties and early seventies Dodges. He was able to lend me some of the parts involved so I could show the different components in class. It was cool and I got an A on the project.
Thx for the memories 👍
Haven't had a MOPAR since my mom's 1969 Dodge Monaco 383 Sure Grip wagon when I was a kid, but for huge American iron, that car would handle! I remember learning on it tossing it through the local twisties with its mammoth dimensions. Driving friend's Fords and Chebbies, I was amazed at how they wallowed and bucked and needed to be rushed by hanging their tails out like drift cars. The Monaco just got down to business and went where you put it when you pressed the loud pedal. And got an honest 18 MPG moving the longest 9-passenger wagon built at the time. I loved that car, and it was happier at 100 than anything I've driven that fast since. Wish I had one now. Thanks for the memories, Uncle!
Torsion bar comment classic.
When I was in high school I had a 70 charger L code 383 2 barrel.
Wanted a classic rake look.
Didn't have money for air shocks so I just lowered the front end using the torsion bar adjustment.
A few months later took my car to alignment shop for a front end alignment.
The guy was bitching at me saying he was going to charge me more money cuz he had to raise my car up to the proper level.
The good old days.
That was exactly me with my high school 383 68 Charger...!!!
Did that too!
70 340 Duster.
Glad to see you at home in the new shop!!!! I'm a Chevy guy ,but right now I drive a Jeep. I love all makes of car and trucks!! I am looking for my dream truck...about a 50 Ford Pick Me Up!!! LOL You got to love old Iron!!! LOL
Always love how a Mopar rear end rises up on it's haunches when you get on it.
That is badass!!!
I was leaving a car show in my '79 Chrysler 300 and behind me was a 63 I think 300 letter car, white, dual quads, swivel seats, under dash turntable. We both entered the highway, Route 1A Saugus Massachusetts. He pulls up on my drivers side, looks at me, counts 1-2-3, we both floor the gas pedal and his entire car rose 3-4 inches and took off like a jet.🙃🤪
MrJohnnyDistortion
You had a record player under the dash?
Can’t forget the Classic Mopar starter sound that makes them Awesome!
It was known as the “hummingbird.”
You know this story is going to be good when UT start's the video off in a rocking chair, that's when you sit back and just shut up and listen to him!! :D
A glass of tang in his hand would be perfect. Ek2 Superbird colored drink.
@@andrewbutton5580 lololo
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I have never heard such a good explanation or positive things to say about torsion bars, Uncle Tony is awesome at knowing and explaining the ins and outs of these cars! Fun and educational watch.
Amen to everything!!! I absolutely love the way a torsion bar suspension launches, that weight transfer, then the push up from the rear, they leap frog of the line and then plane out straight. Damn!
In a hundred years this channel will be used by collectors and museums to figure out how to keep Chryslers in proper working order.
Mopars will have long been converted to electric power.
You said it
@@cammontreuil7509 I’m doubtful electric cars will be around for a long time once they’re the norm. There’s far more oil in the ground than Lithium and Cobalt.
A lot sooner than that, burning gasoline in an engine will get you put on a list and your assets will be redistributed to people who vote for handouts. If you are famous, you will of course be cancelled by the relatively small portion of the country that does social media.
I Just Want too say a huge thanks too UTG for the info on buying these cars , and what to watch out for, concerning the seller’s and the cars. Excellent info ! Buyer beware. Thanks pal.
It's a brilliant design. I have a 57 300C that had a lot of the firsts in engineering that evolved into greater things in the 60s. My first primer into how brilliant Mopar engineering, is years ago reading Rick Ehrenberg's articles, then found a gem of a book by Tom Condran called Performance Handling For Classic Mopars and his other book Mad About Mopars gives great insight into the greatness of Chrysler engineering. Because of those books and articles I rebuilt and modified the suspension on several of my Mopars over the years....
Really awesome car man. The 1957 300 is the " pinnacle " of " Chrysler Engineering " on many levels.
My Dad and his buddy had two of them in the early 60s when they were cheap and nobody wanted them. It's the car that turned my Dad onto being a Mopar guy, and then me when I grew up hearing the stories of all the races he got into on the highways of SoCal and even leaving the Ford police intercepters in the dust! Now I've got a collection of mopes and other stuff about as big as Uncle Tonys hoard!!
All that Tony, and you never even mentioned the low center of gravity! Huge bonus for guys who run around the twistys.
Ive always wondered how a mopar would handle on a circle track and wish I had of tried it. EVERYONE runs chev frames/suspension with screw jacks on all four corners and I thought why not a mopar, they basically came from the factory with the same idea but would get laughed out of the idea.
@@kevinmopar1211 at my local dirt track they run a 6 cylinder class that uses a very similar chassis to a super stock but they run straight 6 engines, most everyone uses chevy 258's but I remember one guy thought why not try a slant 6 because the way it's slanted would let him sling the car around the corners easier because there was more weight on that side, well he did just that. The guy won a lot of races that season and they made new rules saying you had to add 100lbs of weight on the nose on the opposite side to ballance it out. He argued that wasn't fair because he was already at a cubic inch disadvantage but they didn't care. Nobody at the track has run a slant 6 since but everyone remembers what he did with it.
@@jaymoe5.7 you got to love inventive people.
Now you said it yourself, the gift that keeps giving.
I love all classic 60s and early 70s cars, especially GM cars like the Camaro, GTO, 442, Firebird. My brother and cousin were Mopar fans, (no competition, I love Mopars too). So I am familiar with these cars and how to work on them.
I am so impressed with UT. He is a true classic car enthusiast and knows all the tricks and details that comes from working on them for decades.
What we did not see in this video was Uncle Kathy having to get up and down on the floor every time Tony did. Kudos!
She is so silent and stealthy that I forgot that she is there.
This guy is a MOPAR genius, I love to watch all his videos
He is, no doubt about that!!!
Those of us who lived in the Rust Belt had to throw away our Darts and Valiants when the mounting points for the torsion bars rusted out and dropped the front end onto the ground.
Good God I almost forgot about that you’re right they were the biggest pieces of shit ever made I remember us being a teenager they were the worst I know Mopar guys love them and I love the shape of their cars but you could keep that shit torsion bar front end. U feel every pebble on the road
@@trischarchuleta9865 Yeah, but they didn't drag the door handles in the corner like the GMs did.
Replace the tbar crossmember. They make good repros.
@@trischarchuleta9865 cant keep any front end in rust wonderland. thank god i live in the south.
@@jimbogusky gotta have something to mount the repo to😂
I couldn't agree more! This is something I discovered on my first car, when I was still a teenager. That old girl would sit level no matter how aggressive you took a corner. The limiter was my nerve!
My auto shop instructor back in 1972 ( my junior year) was a complete MOPAR man. He drove a brand new 1971 Dodge Dart.
His car was on the lift one day to show us his Torsion bar front suspension. The entire class was taught the reason why then and there exactly what Tony was showing us in this video.
The instructors name was Anthony Chesto. An 8 fingered Italian dude.
( Lost two in an unfortunate fan belt incident) .
To this day I remember him as if I had a Auto- Shop guardian angel looking over me throughout my career as an auto body Tech. I was the only kid in that 1973 graduating class to go on and own a shop if my own.
Thank you Tony. You're echo of wisdom will resonate throughout a generation if young mechanics.
Well done video. I'm a subscriber now .
You have a wonderful way of explaining all things automotive ! You obviously like what you do,and your enthusiasm is contagious..
Thanks so much Sir ! 🌞
Tony, remember Chrysler built tanks for the War Department then DoD and since WWII the tanks suspension was torsion bar type over vertical or horizontal valute spring suspension thus made the tanks very maneuverable on the battle field and could run at faster speeds in battle, so it makes sense the MaMopar went with torsion bar suspensions over coil springs in their cars also most pick up truck have torsion bar suspensions today because of the reliability of the torsion bar suspensions.
"It's just a different twist on the same thing"
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I see what you did there.
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Cheers,
Born with a traction bar.. that just sounds right 🤘
Ladder bars are traction bars that work. Or the more modern caltrac bars. The old lakewoods work well enough on the street but at a sticky dragstrip not so well. Chrysler also used a pinion snubber which worked well at the dragstrip.
Ladder bars have leverage on their side compared to caltracs or lakewoods they have less flex as well. Ideally you would want the the end of the ladder bars as close to the front wheels as possible with ground clearance. They use the twist of the rear axle to lift the front of the car up and further transfer weight to the rear wheels. Lakewood's and caltracs all work at the front leaf spring perch which shoves the rear wheels into the pavement and keep the leaf spring from wrapping into an S shape. Traction bars help promote traction ladder bars promote traction and transfer weight.
Mopars commonly used pinion snubbers rather than traction bars. They also mounted most of the rear leaf spring behind the axle unlike the mid size Fords did. Old drag race videos would often show the rear end of the body of Mopars lifitng rather than squatting when they were launched, because of how the springs would "wind up"
@@donreinke5863 Thats why i used to laugh when id see a Mopar with added traction bars, driven by an obvious noob...🤣
As a kid we had a 1972 station wagon that broke a torsion bar on the passenger side...I still remember how loud it was....my first car a '77 Aspen R/T with a 360 had the torsion bars that went towards the front...I ended up replacing the 904 trans with the 727 from that station wagon when I was 16...I always liked the torsion bar setup....
Great Video 👍
I love torsion bars and I hate torsion bars. Love that they can be adjusted to dial in at the track. Hate that any idiot can put a wrench to them. Same for adjustable coil overs. If you feel the need to adjust them by all means have at it. Just be aware that camber and toe will be affected. Also it's good practice to always Jack up the vehicle by the frame until the tires are off the ground to unload the bars before turning the adjustment bolts.
I love MOPAR! Hey, Tony, get some 1/4 inch plywood to put under your jack stands to protect that floor. They are tough put the base of the jack stand will cut the surface in time. I learned that the hard way.
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Awesome that you have the shop now. You moved right up fast keep it up uncle Tony.
Best thing after I put headers on my 74 Duster I had was cranking up the torsion bars a little at a time until it stopped scraping them on speed bumps
I noticed that nice, new epoxy floor too. It looks great and has to be a nice change for Uncle Tony to work on and slide around under cars without getting his shirt and pants all dirty with oil and grease. He definitely deserves it.
Every time I have to compress a GM coil spring I swear under my breath , I could of had a Cuda.
i lol'ed, mind if I make a tshirt with this quote on it? Just for myself lol
@@jasont.1530Please do.
Actually...
A coil spring is a ridiculously long skinny torsion bar that has been coiled up into a tube shape.
they’re both just springs in different forms….
The signature sound of the gear reduction starter.....that's a Mopar!
Another Chrysler innovation that everyone else copied years later. I still remember all the guys making fun of the wee wee wee sound back then. They just didn't understand.
Or the sound of an extra ballast resister in the glove box.
@@stick9648 or the sound you make when you pull the a833 manual trans out yourself.
Was doing rear break band replacement on a 1969 road runner , so of course back end was up on stands , i herd a loud BAM. Right front torsion bar broke. Had to order part even though this was in 1976 . put a put a deep well socket up in the adjustment area and drove it like that for a week untill my new torsion bar came in. MOPAR.
I drive a 2015 Ford Mustang GT, but here I am getting schooled on how great Mopar torsion bar suspensions are. It's simple really: When Uncle Tony tells a story, you listen.
Have replaced them before. Fell in love with the simplicity in what Chrysler had designed. Thanks Uncle Tony.
I always learn something new from Uncle Tony. I love it.
Uncle Tony on Rocking chair talking Mopars love it
1955 Packards had full length torsion bar suspensions on all senior cars. The torsion bars make for great suspensions.
I've watched this multiple times. It's amazing how nice this car is underneath...... I'm from NJ they are rotted to hell or beat to hell. No one comments on that not even you uncle Tony!! But I mean that as a compliment. Good on you for not rubbing it in our faces but you scored!!!
That was awesome Uncle Tony! Wisdom and Mopar go hand in hand. Between both sets of grandparents growing up there was a 69 Fury, 73 Duster, 72 Dart Swinger and 78 Diplomat. My parents fell for the GM hierarchy for years (start at Chevy and go to Oldsmobile or Cadillac years later) Those GMs were nice but in the shop a lot. I never remember the grandparents mopars with any trouble. Just simple, strong, tough and reliable cars. A Duster may not be as sexy as a Cutlass but it was hell of a lot more reliable.
Porsche 911 used torsion bars front and rear. Every corner is adjustable. Great when it is set up correctly. You need scales, though. First time Hearing Chrysler used them. Neat to see them being used for adjusting corner weight for drag racing.
They got them from Vw.
Who invented torsion bars before ww2
circle track we experimented cuz you could jack the weight on the rf for the corners. was great till they run the other direction and you'd find out on the pace lap
alfra romeos and e type jags too
Hi uncle tony, thank you for your information and knowledge because I am self taught it’s so interesting to me to learn that you can do so much with mopar’s by making adjustments especially the way the rear is centered and torsion bars just great 👍👍🚘
Nice part of the F J M body set up is that the torsion bars acted as a anti sway bar as well
OK, Tony....that has got to be one of the simplest and most concise explanations of Mopar torsion bar suspension ever. BAM!
Thanks for being you!
Nice new shop! I love this episode. Torsion bars are cool. I read that Ford and, GM drag racers that had to run stock complained about the Chrysler guys using slant six torsion bars on much bigger engine set ups. But, it fit the rules because it is factory. Huge weight transfer on launch! I don’t know how much of that is true in an old story but, you definitely touched on the topic. The rear leaf spring set up too. Thanks for sharing!!!
Best video you have EVER done ... OK I really liked it!
Lucky me, my dad spent a whole lot of time rebuilding cars and trucks.
Sadly, he had never done much with MOPARS.
Some time back he owned some kind of station wagon, either a Dodge or Plymouth, something from the early 60's, not sure what year.
When I came home from the USAF with a 76 New Yorker, he was so blown away he just fell in love with them.
Sadly, he died before he could do anything with any of them because soon after ward he had a stoke and died.
UT needs to have a spot in the Hot Road Hall of Fame. Never stop sharing the knowledge, never take your foot off the go pedal.
When I first heard about torsion-bar suspension, I thought it was the most brilliant thing I'd ever heard of, suspension-wise. Simple, elegant, and nearly perfect. It just makes sense.
Thanks for the tip on removing the torsion bar I need to rebuild my Charger front end! This content is what makes this channel awesome.
I just watched this for the first time and I was laughing out loud about to story about adjusting the torsion bars on the wagon. Thanks Tony for brightening up my day! 🤣
UTG!!!!’ First off.... I own a 67 mustang and with that being said you are my GO TO TH-cam mechanic!! Your patience and knowledge is AMAZING!! Your break down of your videos and making it easier for the non mechanic people watching is so helpful. Thank you for these videos and I wish you nothing but continued success.
I’ve always loved Packards. They had their own take on four wheel torsion bars. Ride quality was fantastic
Extra care and engineering, it makes a difference.
If only they spent as much care in manufacturing...
Most Volkswagen bugs had torsion bar suspension but are an entirely different car. My 71 super beetle was the first model with the McPherson strut front suspension. Uncle Tony is a treasure trove of Mopar knowledge. Probably all cars but Mopars are definitely his love.
Great tribute to Chrysler's suspension, perfectly explained. Congratulations 👏
First thing I noticed driving my 70s a body was just how great the ride felt. Bench seats definitely help, but even running it over train tracks full speed it would come up, smoothly go down, and settle out immediately. No bouncing, no rocking, just a single smooth movement.
Story time from Uncle Tony's rocking chair. Great informational video! Great camera work Uncle Kathy! The new shop is lookin' really good.
ROLL UP YOU CIGARETTE!!! LOL
One of the things that I always go back to is the holes in the head that have are large enough to pull lifters out without removing the intake. They were always so simple to work on until the emissions era hit.
The mopar guru, uncle Tony the amount I’ve learned from you over the last year is unbelievable, thank you for all your knowledge! You da man!
I never knew what was the big Mopar thing until I owned one. Chevy everything till I bought a d100 shortbed with a 318 4 barrel and full length headers and Flowmaster 40s .That truck ripped and sounded even better. That day I knew.
@@jonathanlawson4667 yaaaa that's 100% wrong, son
@@jonathanlawson4667 child, I have 11 mopar and have been building for over 30 years.
Go back to your hotwheels, leave the big cars to the grown-ups
@@jonathanlawson4667 it was mostly how snsppyit was an how rowdy it sounded not at all the power .
@@jonathanlawson4667 so they're giving out "master technician" in craker jack boxes now hey? Please. Apparently passing grade one English wasn't one of your accomplishments either. trust me, child I've built more last weekend than you have in the 12 years you've been on this planet. I've forgotten more about mechanics than you'll ever know, son.
@@jonathanlawson4667 awww so cute when 12 year olds act tough
My dad had a valiant and is the car he talks the most of he absolutely loved it had the slant 6 in it and said no matter how hard he tried he couldn’t kill it.
Another great feature of the torsion bars is there’s very little intrusion into the engine bay. So it allowed Chrysler (or the owner) to shove even bigger engines under the hood. Ford and GM had massive strut towers to work around or even remove completely. I’ve seen guys hack them out and replace it with a Model A front axle from the hotrods.
Great stuff unk I learned about the leaf spings when I was about 16 my camaro had bad wheel hop and the Chryslers didn't 👍👍
My parents had a 75' ramcharger and a 73' duster, been in love since.
For my 20 years of life on this planet i was born and raised and gm guy. Ive always loved mopars but always visualized them as way to expensive and I usually tended to just stay in my own lane with the GMs. Recently picked up a 73 satellite with a 318 and its been my daily driver since. Dirt cheap slow sedan but it really got me into mopars. Gonna do some work based off bottle rockets budget 318. Thanks uncle tony for making the most relatable content on youtube!
Torsion bar advice; I've always looked at it like adding & subtracting minutes .. 15min at a time.. Now drive a bit.. measure bottom of fender to ground using center of wheel to line up to .. after you figure this out, what height looks good to you.. I add 3/4" more height to my side due to body weight..
I run my Dart low enough to make sure water will come off windshield from the middle and up.. this angle also, at speed will push the car Down, curing front end lift.. I've had my own Dart above 110Mph with minimal lift or lighting of Steering feel.. peace humans..
Love torsion bars! Picked up a ‘68 Chrysler Newport for $300 due to a bad lean on the driver’s side. It was sagging so low everyone was scared of it. I looked underneath and saw the torsion bar was fine, so I paid the guy and shook his hand. I drove it off the lot and found a parking lot, pulled in there, slipped under the car and cranked up the adjustment until it was level. The car was excellent. What non-Mopar people didn’t know gave me a great deal. I laughed about it many times. That car was one of my favorites.
UT is always informative and can explain things in a easy to understand language! I’m not a Mopar guy but find the topic interesting Thanks Tony!
NewRiverRepair, where are you located? Curious because I’m in Virginia’s New River Valley.
@@johnwilburn I’m north of Phoenix AZ at the “Gateway to the Sonoran Desert”. I’ve never been to the New River Valley VA but I’d bet it’s a great spot !
My 3/4 ton 1962 Chevy pickup had torsion bar suspension. It worked great . Thanks Tony good info .
OUTSTANDING video, thank you!
Packard had the torsion bar suspension. My friend has a mid 50s model, and it’s one of the most surprising cars ever. Lockup torque converter and many other features. The remarkable torsion bar suspension allows it to take off ramps at more than 70 mph, in a mid 50s automobile it’s beyond belief. Astounding. Shame the brand didn’t survive...
I'm a Ford guy that also likes Mopar , and the torsion bar front end is always what comes to mind first.....
Hi Tony, I had an Eldorado that had front torsion bars. At one point I thought it was riding to high and I adjusted them lower. The Olds Toronado and the Eidorado used torsion bars up until 1978. And lets not forget that the VW Beetle used torsion bars also.
Not saying anything negative about Mopar but your video reminded me how easy it was to adjust my Eldorado's ride height.
Excellent description and demonstration Tony! The "Engineer's Car" is what Dad said, and is why he bought Chrysler in '67, after having always been a Chevy man.
So happy for you to see you in the new, beautiful shop!
You gotta give it to the mopar guys, the dedication is unmatched!!!
This is just what I needed to watch today. I never worked on a Dodge front end and I always had questions about replacing the torsion bars.
All that you mentioned, plus the pinion snubbers 👍
The ironic thing is that when Ford and GM put independent front suspension on their 1500 4 wheel drive trucks they used torsion bars!
Yeah I remember in the mid 90s looking a the new Dodge Dakotas and they had torsion bars. Also even many 2500 and 3500 Chevys used torsion bar front suspension.... not sure if they still do to this day though.
When he was talking about the beefy married couple and their 70 satellite wagon, it reminded me of a 76 hornet sportabout wagon my Dad bought from a couple who were hefty as well. The car was about 4 years old when he bought it, with the driver's side of the front bench seat already beginning to waddle out due to the weight of the super hefty couple. The seat springs were just beginning to displace from the immense weight of the driver. The passenger side was getting the same treatment but held up a little bit better. But the front end was really sagging; especially the driver's side. New shocks didn't help. Going on anything other than a paved street could be difficult as the front end would catch the ground if you weren't careful. Loved that 258 straight 6 and the radio was killer for that time and era.
the '60 Valiant was well ahead of the competition in shell, suspension and drivetrain design and fabrication.
very good video
In looking up on this chassis torsion bar suspension, had to research chassis diagrams A-body 62Dart. (Grampa's ride) Got factory diagrams and understood this concept applied. NO COIL SPRINGS. Helped mfg torsion bars for Tanks yrs ago.. thanks for the short seminar for understanding Mopar chassis.
we use an aluminium gooseneck from a BMX bike to hold the torsion bar while you tap it back...I use the prise method when pulling the front end apart..thanks for the info Uncle Tony
Dang, I wish I had known this back when I had my 1970 340 Dart Swinger. Very informative. Thanks Uncle Tony!
First car, in 1982... 1973 Plymouth Satellite 4dr, green on green with a green vinyl top. 318 4bbl 727 TF. Once I slipped headers and Thrush glasspacks on it, and some tuning, I could spin H series on aluminum jelly bean rims almost as long as I wanted - or as much as I could afford to replace those expensive tires.
Wow....that floor. There is a glare its so shiny. The shop i work in has floors real nice like that. We bought delron crane landing pads to put our jack stands on so the legs of the stands wouldn't cut into the epoxy. Also, the pads keep the metal off the floor. The jack stands usually have scraps and scratches in the bottom of the legs. The scraps expose bare metal, when they sit on the floor for a bit the rust. The rust stains the floor. Having the pads under them also helps keep from staing the fllor with rust.
I watched every bit of that video and now I finally understand torsion bars! My 64 Dart will be set up for handling so most likely I’ll go up in diameter!
Wow, love me some Chrysler engineers!
I've had 2 go on separate 72 Barracuda's. Don't pull into a snow bank and leave the front end parts buried in the fluff and then back over the ice encrusted mound a bit later in the dead of winter. That will test 'em. The second was random, pulled into a parking spot and shut the car off and then BANG! They sound like an m80 going off under your car. Made a nice removal tool with 2x4's for the donor car, when they break, they pop themselves loose and come right out.
I've had a lot of cars! But not too many mopars. Every one of these videos makes me more a Mopar guy.
Being from Tennessee, I love my many friends from New York. Most have a great accent and love being here. Low taxes and cost of living giving them a love for Tn.
One of the most important things about torsion bars is the screw on one side adjust the opposite side. Lifting one side lift the other side a little bit too. The alignment process started by checking the ride hight at the frame and adjusting the torsion bars. Then toe caster and camber is adjusted.
Thank you , thank you ,thank you. I'm a GM guy and in working on my first in depth 1969 satalite with a 440 but was born with a 6 cylinder. Rebuilding the front end and was worried about getting the tbars out correctly. Your explanation is by far the best I have found after watching many videos. Gives me to the point what info I needed. This cars title says roadrunner but vin says satalite , so not really sure. It has rr emblems on the doors but no meep meep horn. The 440 is a 1970 single 4 bbl , have not looked up head numbers yet. A 727 trans , not sure about rear gear or posi yet. Either way still a cool car and am enjoying working on this beast. Headers , electronic ignition and a edlbrock carb , I need to run its numbers too. Thanks a million , looking forward to tuning this beast in.👍👍🏁🏁
And no sway bar.
Just to add a tad. About those Dodge & Plymouth 76-80 F & G Body "Transverse Torsion Bar" set up. For those that don't know. The whole thing was integrel as a front suspension, in that the K Frame could be unbolted/removed and the entire assembly would be stand alone. I have seen them used for Street Rod Front Suspension much like GM F & G Body Sub Frames or the much later 92-2011 Crown Vic Modular front suspension.
Yrp! Thanks UT for touching on this!. I love the front torsion bar design. We fooled around a bit with them on a cousins street/stripper. And I recall one ford kid trying to tell us we needed to swap the whole rear out for Ford and buy traction bars. But there was never a need. It didn't have the same problems his did. Very cool UT
Tony didn’t pull the wheels off Bottle Rocket for this video. It was to get the water spots off that I got on the wheel wells.