How many KINGS can you spawn in the 4 Kings Boss Battle? -DS1
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 8 ก.พ. 2025
- Let's answer one of the age old useless questions of the Dark Souls series... just how many kings can you make spawn in the 4 kings boss fight? ᴵ'ᶫᶫ ᵍᶦᵛᵉ ʸᵒᵘ ᵃ ʰᶦᶰᵗ⋅ ᴵᵗ'ˢ ᶰᵒᵗ ᶠᵒᵘʳ⋅
Oh! And thank you for the suggestion on twitter Gupple!
---TL:DW & BONUS NOTES---
-At first it seems like a simple mathematical problem. 4 kings is the max allowed on screen, 1 will spawn every 40 seconds & each have a perfect 1/4 of the total HP.
This means we can only kill 3 allowing for 7 total. Well that's not nearly enough!
After a bit of testing, it seems each king has SLIGHTLY less than 1/4 HP each (I'm surprised ALL the wiki's are wrong about this). This means we can let 4 spawn, kill 4 to allow 4 more to spawn for a total of 8!
BUT WAIT! THERE'S MORE! Some weapons deal bonus damage to the kings but NOT the shared total. These are the weapons with "Stumble" animations. Counter damage and sweetspot damage also follow this trend.
Abusing leo ring counters, stumble weapons and sweetspots the best weapon we can use is the Black Knights Halberd! For every 11 damage we do to a solo king, the boss will lose only 5 HP!
With this trick we can kill 8 kings for a total of 12 encountered!
The boss also knows "lifedrain", however sadly in Dark Souls 1 it NEVER heals health, but steals 1 humanity. Shame really.
You might be thinking of casting WARMTH? Well to bad, it doesn't exist in DS1. There is no projectile heal we can abuse either.
So 12 is the cap unless someone else finds a better weapon!
-----MUSIC AND VIDEO CREDITS------
Chill Urban by Frank Nora
Chill Wave by Frank Nora
SuspendedAnimation by Kevin MacLeod at incompetech.com
Casa Bossa Nova by Kevin MacLeod at incompetech.com
One King Boss Example by TheBenderArchives at • Dark Souls - One King ...
Reply to this comment if you are a time traveler from 2019. Who else hated the Fidget Spinner trick weapon in BLOODBORNE 2?
Mmmmm Noice
Limit Breakers How about a Chinese guy on crack? I think I can do it.
Where do I apply?
If you need any other VAs, generic or more specific. Hit me up!
Shiva of the East?
More liek...
Shiva the Deceased! lol
I know it says that you can only spawn twelve kings but there’s actually one more. It’s you, you’re the 13th king
S Class rank seven
"dont call me that"
Then there would be 14 because there is a fifth one under the arena who has the main healthbar, the healthbar you see as boss health is his
I see you kryse out there understanding the enemy
Hey there ! A king actually has 2376 HP, the wiki is right about that and you can easly see it using the debug version. The reason they die early is beacuse the game checks if they have more than 1% HP left. So 24HP left the king is alive, 23HP he dies. Also while you'll still meet 4 kings, it's actually possible to finish the fight without killing any of them by shooting them from far away using a bow. Doing that will damage the collective health bar but not the individual kings.
Interesting! Now to submit a petition to patch in the correct boss name of "0 to 12 Kings"!
I know its years late.. but I was about to comment to say that i've killed 4 of the 4 kings before and a fifth has spawned, taken one puny hit and died with like90% of its hp still left ending the fight
@@mattgarrett2583 Yes that's normal, don't mix up individual kings' health bars and the 4 Kings' boss health bar. It's only individual kings that are affected by the 1% rule but as soon as the collective health bar reaches 0, the boss battle ends and all remaining kings dies, regardless of how much HP they had left.
You kind of make sense, but also don't. Technically the game says they do have 2376HP, but practically they don't, which was the Limit's point
I'M SORRY for the long wait peeps, got another vid almost done. But I guess you can say... this took too 4KING long? 😏🔫
Limit Breakers jfc
LMAO.
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12/4 would lifedrain again.
hey, sorry I saw your youtube channel and I just thought you looked useless in your
datas, I really wanted to tell you that)) It's really rare to see
crabs playing video games haha! I don't know why its a hollow thing
honestly im like really against crabphobia and like ill be the one in the
kitchen making krabby patties. We should really play Dark Souls 3 sometime its a
really disappointing souls game with no poise, but don't worry ill
be there to feel it mr krabs ;) sorry that wasnt dex I swear Im just
trying to be helicopterman I really like your old man text-to-speech voice sorry was that
too far? Really sorry i'm really casul I don't go pvp much haha add me on
Major League Fishing we should talk more you look really spicy and dank xxx
No no no no no... This is not okay! We need an old man with suicide inducing puns for useless data videos, not an intellectual eurasian man with a soothing voice!
GS-Asriel-Dr6mr it costs money
The old man was young in DS1
The 13th King has been discovered, thanks to Zullie the witch. They were underneath our feet the entire time!
2020 here, can confirm that bloodborne 2 never showed up
It did, it's just unlisted on steam
@Conspiracy Terrorist Bro, what?
But demon's souls did. That's even better who's been with the saga since 2009
@@KarmasAB123 yeah lol
@@Bradguy123 lmao
demonetized for not using old man voice
Watermelone HAHAHAHAHA
Watermelone I CANT STOP LAUGHING
968 likes wow
Not one dislike! #respect
@@nickklok4955 Dislikes don't show though.
I actually got 5 Kings just from using a BKH my first playthrough. Needless to say I was very confused.
Draykon Vokelda Grandpoobear recently did exactly that on his blind playthrough. Confused the hell out of everyone!
The way I see it, the Lord Soul fragment makes Four Kings immortal (kind of in the same way cursed undead are), hence why they do respawn (maybe through bonfire of sorts) and there can't be more than 4 of them since they are still just four beings. But, at the same time, since they all share the same soul and depend on it, any damage dealt to them slowly separates them from said soul (in the same way deaths separate undead from their humanity, eventually leading to complete hollowing), so eventually you just absorb the Lord Soul off of them, killing them for good.
Someone may have already stated this but... My theory has always been that there are indeed four kings, but the reason why more show up is because it's actually the *same* king that you killed, just revived. Think of it this way: you show up to the fight; then you kill the first king and his three bros show up. Well that fourth king that spawns is the same one that you killed at first... Just revived through the abyss. And they keep reviving until not even the abyss can bring them back from the damage you've done to them. Now I know what you're probably thinking by now:
*[D E E P L O R E]*
(Either that or tldr xD)
I've always thought that too
I thought this was obvious, but apparently not.
I'm a simple person, I see King Crimson, I subscribe.
Masayoshi Shido One may say you usually NEVER SEE HIM COMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMIIIIIIIIIING
Kingu Curimson!
The amount of work and time you put in these videos for rather useless, but godamn interesting content is insane. Love from Germany!
this is too much this man is crazy
"Yeah, I was just wasting your time..."
Gotta hit that 10 minute mark somehow, huh?
"Maaan it sure is boring around here"
"MAH BOIIII"
Wisgarus
Only Limit Break can defeat the Four Kings!
Limit Breakers are going to be the people who cure cancer using only the Dark Souls series.
First of all, as a game programmer, Limit, thank you for putting so much work into these videos. You are making me think harder about my games to make sure my math makes sense. Thank you so much for your dedication to videos such as this. If for nothing else, you have gained a subscription, and a permanent fan.
Second, wow dude give them a break, I'm sure they didn't mean for NINE FREAKING KINGS to be able to spawn, just EIGHT of them.
(Damn you, From Software, Damn you to video game hell)
You are my favorite souls related channel, Limit. Not only is your production on point, but all of the derpy stuff that's in this series comes off as super charming after you plumb the depths of how far the mechanics can be pushed for some reason. Still think the slowest DSII parry is my favorite vid though.
The Abyss Watchers were able to be a singular Lord of Cinder in DS3 because the shared wolf's blood bound their souls together. The shard of the soul given to the 4 Kings by Gwyn likely did the same. With their soul bound to each other it would be impossible to kill one unless you kill all as the soul of one is kept "alive" by the other 3 (because it's all one soul.)
This video is so great. Goes straight to the answer that this video promises but then goes deeper into the topic. Keep it up!
Man i'm glad King Crimson didn't spawn when i fought the four kings, or maybe he did but he just erased the time of me seeing him?
Thorium9 King crimson erased poise
Big L it just works as intended
i would imagine king crimson being traped in the abyss by gold experience requiem keep doing over and over in the abyss
Gold Experience Requiem is just getting hit endlessly by small crabs.
So... old man will only be the narrator for Dark Souls 3 vids?
Btw, I've noticed old man is less and less present. Is it because doing all the text to speech etc is too much work?
Because I think (and I believe I'm not the only one) that old man is kind of the essence of the channel, the meme fuel of your videos.
Anyway, great vid as usuals. Keep on the good work, man !
GiveMeBackMyHealth It was getting tired. Just because mush brains like you enjoy doesn't mean that's the way he should keep going. Besides, this is more similar to the channels original format.
Octavio Gonzalez yes, because someone likes something more than you they are "mush brains". You are not special yourself, get over it
ON4331 Nah anyone that says "meme fuel" is a mush brain. In other words, he only tunes in for the hurr durr memes. Its defy you to tell me this isn't mush brain behavior. Never met a mush brain sympathizer though thanks for that.
+Havel The Rock
Fuck you, bud.
Jesus, Destroyer of Sin once again, jesus forgives our sin
in dark souls 3 he's old but in dark souls 1 he was YOUNG?!?!??!?!??!??!
your pic just fits to that comment, i love it xD
he did say. back im my day in ds1 so yeah
That's just his grandson
DEEPEST LORE
You deserve some mad props for this dude, honestly. Just the part with hitting the guy at 1 dmg deserves praise. I give up editing my shit in like 5 seconds but that probably took u five years so props man
I don't know chief, but my first guess would be 4.
I'm glad this long awaited video is finally out
HE HAS A REAL VOICE
I love the little King Crimson Reference on the card, Niceru!
My God, King Crimson already saw that
I am really glad that you actuality chose to make a dark souls 1 video. Generally for some reason, all content creators think that the older dark souls games have lost any ability to generate content, which i disagree.
There is just so many silly things in dark souls 1, Good vid! :V
WhAt iS ThE MaXiMuM AmOuNt oF- oh wait
This was a quality video, it's nice to see content from things other than DS3 too.
Although I have to say, I do miss the crab :(
But what about NG+, can you squeeze out fewer kings or maybe, even more?!
According the wiki's even on NG+ you can get +4 kings since the total life it isn't perfectly divisable by 4. But considering it takes like an hour I don't want to even think about that...
Limit Breakers the king crab is real!
LONG LIVE KING CRAB
My experience so far has been to re-name the boss "Six and a half fucking kings"
Oddly enough, I've always had to kill 5 kings, usually the 4 normally and then a hit or two on 5th.
I always assumed somebody made a miscalculation on the heath split on the 4
Your dedication and editing is stunning. Absolutely loved this video!
That's weird, when it got to 3:00 it suddenly went to 3:10.
MrExplodey
*Oh wow, when did this hole get it my chest*
You double tapped or hit the right arrow key
@@Kaiwala r/whoosh
@@Rainyjax You know what chief
I'm rather mad.
Not at you, mostly at myself.
Darn.
@@Kaiwala pls explain i don't get it
Limit thank you so much for uploading this video. Even if it took yo ua while that's totally fine because I had been asking myself this question for the longest time and it just sucks that no one had done a video on it! Until now! It might be considered "useless data" but I enjoy getting to know about it. It's just neat I think.
We need the return of helicopter man, he has a chance to redeem himself, let him have that chance
I loved the king memes & the video quality equally. I don't even play dark souls but this is one of my favorite channels
9:58 fun fact: key to seal looks like the sword of avowal.
This is still my favourite video on this channel to this day
10:41..... you missed Old King Doran. The guy that gives you Demonbrandt if you beat him after you get the Mausoleum key by saving Ostrava. 1-1 across the bridge with the red eye knight (the OG ganker of low levels).
What a thorough investigation. Well done.
10:57 Spooked me a bit, I'll be honest.
this man suffers to find us useless data, truly a hero of science.
thank you for your hard work.
Hey it's 2019 now. We don't have Bloodborne 2 yet. I'll ask 2020 when he comes around.
Nope, not here
I can faintly recall seeing a video back in the day of someone who killed the 4 Kings without killing any Kings. Now I know that sounds contradictory, but it is indeed possible. If you fire an arrow from a sufficient distance, the damage will fall off towards zero, but will still do a normal amount of damage to the boss health bar. This way you can deplete the entire health bar without dealing enough damage to an individual king to kill it. Thought that would be nice trivia to add to a video like this, but I guess things like that are pretty obscure.
Hey Limit, I have a question.
A lot of these analyses assume the player will be going single player. But what if 2 phantoms perform group buffs which further increases the players damage, then leave before the host enters the fog gate? Would this be possible and could it increase overall damage of all weapons against a boss, making one-shot builds have higher potential? Just wanted to know your thoughts on it.
I know this is an old video but I feel the need to say that the number 4 in Japan is associated with death. The language has multiple ways of pronouncing most numbers based on context and one of 4’s is a homophone of death ‘Shi’. It’s a bit of an archaic version now but there’s still a bunch of superstitious surrounding the number because of it (most hospitals don’t have room 4s or forth floors because of it, going straight from 3 to 5). That may be why there are 4 kings.
So he waited 2 years to make this a joke?
Subbed.
have to admit, that music is still terrifying, it's basically the "HURRY UP OR YOUR GOING TO DIE!" theme of the game.
2:57 IS THIS A MOTHERFUCKING JOJO REFERENCE?
IS DAT MY BOI KING CRIMSON
BikerHM Oh, shut the fuck you salty weeaboo
For some reason, whenever the video gets to this point it just skips forwards 10 seconds, but i have no idea of how it works
That moment you realize that dark souls 1 took some inspiration from Jojo's, and if didn't exist we wouldn't have the dark souls we would have today
Dankius Memeius You mean Beserk
I wasn’t paying attention, does this include the King that spawns way WAY under the map that serves as the actual King the game recognizes as the boss.
I’m from 2019 and bloodborne 2 is great, sadly it hasn’t came out yet
I was surprised to suddenly see a Dark Souls 1 video, but I guess you've been working on this one before Dark Souls 2 released.
UNLIMITED! KINGGGGGS!!!!
Honestly, thank you for this. I was generally curious all this time, this really answered a question I had.
There is something really bothering me for a while. It is about the Rat Vanguard in Dark Souls 2. Are these beasts limited or do they respawn infinitely? I banished a fair amount into the Abyss, but got no clear results. Can you take a look into that? It is pretty useless data, but nevertheless interesting
The regular rats respawn the boss itself does not
I always figured it was the same 4 kings respawning and you smacking them up was just draining whatever force was keeping all 4 of them collectively alive.
Damn I wish I could talk about bloodborne 2 but that’s [[REDACTED]]
RIP 13th king :(
"Old wasn't as old as in dark souls 1."
Wait did he just say he's old man and not the grandson?!
I HAVE WAITED YEARS TO KNOW THIS. Thanks
No old man voice 0/5
Total 2.5/5
Mediocre video I guess.
WOW! This was like seeing goku vs majin bu again!
"These are four kings. And these are four kings that surpassed the normal limit of a four king's battle, so eight kings. But we can go EVEN FURTHER BEYOND!AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA (An eternity of aaa later) This is twelve kings."
#BringBackOldMan
Comin here in 2021 makes that 2019 callout super awkward
10:19 Now I've only ever seen one anime, but was that Papi the Harpy?
no. twas the pump-a-rum crow
U pervert
The manga is better
Surprisingly ds1 pvp is still very active, especially in darkroot forest, I had a wonderful time last day, such a nostalgia...
you guys should return there sometimes
ds2's 5th hidden dlc: darkroot forest. =P
i wrote this msg through my phone, and it sometimes replaces with some words with something i often used, in this case ds2.
p.s. the vanilla ds1's pvp is broken as f lol, there are fishermen everywhere!
Omg king crimson! Haha
UnLucky Catfish it just works!
Love your channel, with or without the old man voice. Thx!!!
3:56 MUDAMUDAMUDAMUDAMUDAMUDAMUDA!!!!!
Thank you so much for this Dark Souls 1 video!
I love your accent.
this video is phenomenal good job
I want the Old Man Voice back
That big head Solaire had makes me praise the sun for a while
Is this a history lesson?
Since there's only ever 4 at once, my guess is that, it's just the same kings respawning over and over, and since they share the same lordsoul, they share the same life force, and when they're too damaged, they all die/the abyss eats them.
say, do you think you could get that 13th king if you timed the last kill perfectly so that the forty seconds runs out between killing the final king, and the end of the fight?
I feel like the best lore for this to be true, would simply be that the 4 kings simply rotate out, there is only 4 kings, but they come back into the fight after being defeated.
Bloodborne 2 is fine. They called it Sekiro and removed the RPG mechamics
great video! I'd also like to submit the Knight King Rendal to the list of royalty in the dark souls universe.
MEME MAN
when i fought the four kings i encountered this "less than one 4th hp total" that your talking about and ended up fighting 5 overall
Anyone else noticing that he says "heych pee" instead of HP? :D
*Facepalm*
Aiko facewall is more appropriate in this situation.
Pongo
Anybody noticed how he isn't American so he pronounces things differently? :D
american cheese I think you didn't catch the joke
Harambe never died
That's the most likely scenario
I love this channel
No old man voice? Boooooooooooooooooooo
the old man voice costs money now, so i imagine that's why we see less and less of the old man voice
fuck off
Nice video, I can see how much effort was put into this :))
im early let me think of a joke
dark souls 2 sotfs
FriendlyFireGaming sotfs is actually good compared to vanilla
FriendlyFireGaming +
Anders Taylor as someone who does not bandwagon hate ds2 the base game is way better the sotfs
_
I actually liked SOTFS more than Dark Souls 3.
This is the voice of Limit Breakers when he still young
Youre simply awesome,keep it up my friend!
I've never heard of sweet spots in DS until this video
Can you hear him? That's our boy,his blades are begging to spin....he's coming home.
the comments are 49% "boo no old man voice" and 50% "Is that a motherfucking Jojo reference?"
love your videos! thanks for the awesome content
Literally JUST beat this boss before the game crashed and I came to this video.
Truly the old man is of mystery. He became younger
Visually the 4 kings is one of my favorite bosses.