What Ally Kostial Didn’t Know | Full Episode
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- A college student's troubling text messages lead investigators to her killer. "CBS Saturday Morning" co-host Michelle Miller reports for "48 Hours." Watch more full episodes of "48 Hours" on Pluto TV.
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Nice way to smear the victim. I hope the family sues you.
I hope the Kostial family sues for defamation, I’ll be reacting and following this case on this video production. The defense lawyer invents her thoughts which is so inappropriate and you are using a forensic psychologist to back your one sided views without having Ally there to tell you what her thoughts were. This is the worst story I’ve ever seen.
What are you two on about with suing? ☠️ Y'all can't be serious, right? 🫣
@@Crim3Watch3r I’m super serious, the edit is disgusting. Never seen such a defamation of character of a dead victim before. Use some critical thinking and go back and listen to every word. It’s all speculation. They’ve made her parents look stupid by the way they’ve edited it together. The defense attorney even puts himself in the killers shoes by using terms like ‘we’.
@@tcttvradio again, you can't be serious, right? 🤣 how many other shows do the same thing? Most cases ARE speculation. Also, her OWN friends and family talked about things she did wrong. Texts prove she did some crazy sht. She SAID herself what she was doing whether she did it or not. What exactly would you like them to say? I'd love to see your story telling in this story.
When someone shows you they’re not really interested in you, believe them and walk away.
Best advice!
Yes! Young people need to be taught this! Let go and move on!
I don’t think people realize how pathetically sad they look chasing after someone that doesn’t want them. Like shoot your shot but if you miss, time to move on. Unlimited number of hoops out there.
Well Said!
No experience, RIP 🎉😢💔
Kills me how they say “Having a baby will ruin my life,” like murdering the mother and going to prison for life won’t do the same. 🤦🏻♀️ So sad.
Their narcissism convinces them they’ll get away with it.
I have no sympathy for him. But she somehow stalked him and didnt accept his no. A baby doesnt ruin your life, but many women think so and chose abortion. In this regard I can understand his fear.
unfortunately thats ususally how that decision goes. its about the immediate issue, not thinking of any consequences otherwise
ABORTION IS NOT BIRTH CONTROL. IDK why kids these days think abortion is the same as a condom. It sickens me
Me too. @@dickfitswell3437
The message here is "if someone does not want you, leave them alone" You can never coerce someone into loving you.
It is not so easy, if they do not just tell you. You always try for that live
Most people learn those lessons IN college/their 20's, due to experience, but they don't die for it.
True
I just don’t understand why this girl, who had a father in her home, was so desperate for love ??
@@crystalglopez91623I know a lot of people who have a dad in the home that are really needy for love... I don't understand the meaning of this statement... not having a go, genuinely puzzled by this
Unfortunately, she didnt want to accept that he wasn't interested. If they say it, act it, you need to believe it.
Poor girl, she was chasing after the wrong thing in college. Chase after your education ladies, not these clowns.
Same for guys too. Too many young people are worried about the wrong things.
But it was HER CHOICE! Women love CHOICE!!!! She probably slept with him immediately. But that's what modern women do to their own emotional detriment.
Kids should learn standard ethics and how to see through psychopath classes for real.
I absolutely agree with u. To me they aren't worth it.
They all do
if they don’t show interest in meeting your family or friends, let alone just being with you….that’s the biggest sign for you to run.
Run? She didn't even turn around. He was clearly not interested.
People need to learn that being with someone doesn't mean being in a relationship with their family. It's about one person with another person. Not a community project.
@@isabelc2131 Ok ok, we can see what you are. lol
With all due respect, this was one of the contributing factors to what happened - that she was trying to cling on to a one sided relationship. How he acted cant be justified at all, i am not blaming her for his actions, but she could have chosen to simply walk away from this cowardly man.
You can’t force someone to be with you. Pay attention to their actions, they speak louder then their words. 💔
Very true! Never keep a man that doesn’t love you and never love any man more than yourself.
True. But there are this kind of girls who like to drag after someone who disrespects them and not going out with a 'nice guy' They WANT this emotional rollercoaster. After getting some life experience some women overcome this and settle down. Not everybody, unfortunately.
Sadly, she was playing with fire. She had no idea that she was harassing a killer.
@@anonymouzxx
There are women who are attracted to “bad boys”! That’s the theory behind the women who are attracted to people like Ted Bundy. Guys like Bundy receive sacks of fan mail. They also receive multiple marriage proposals.
There’s no single explanation for this, other than a theory that some women are attracted to alpha males because their genes are more geared toward survival.
Yeah, keep blaming the woman. Coercive control.
1) Children don’t tell their parents “everything”.
2) Parents educate your sons and daughters on how to build and nurture self-esteem and how to behave and what to expect in a healthy relationship.
If only parents did do this
Very true unfortunately parenting styles today are worse than ever everyone's so self absorbed trying to their childs best friend the cool parent😢
For that to happen 'parents' needed to be something other than naive little brats conditioned into magical thinking & socially accepted behavior themselves who are bringing their kids up with the same nonsense society has tried to spoon-feed people for centuries. It would require critical thinking. If you have a kid 'being bubbly & getting along with everyone' that's a red flag. Either your kids don't have ANY personality or they're covering something up that they don't want you to see.
My mother yelled, screamed, hit, punished, berated, and beat me, just about every single day, along with days and sometimes weeks of solitary confinement.
That was back in the 70's so I think there has always been bad parenting... and good.
My kids both turned out great and I never laid a hand on them and always keept the comunications open and easy.
My son's an army ranger and my daughter is a veterinarian...both doin great in their thirty's.
They had a great mom too!
@@BigPoppieSeedDon’t forget that child abuse (your situation) and bad parenting are two different things.
The thing is. He didn’t even pretend to hide his disdain for her. So sad she was too young to not see this and see that he was only using her.
Very sad, but true.
What were her friends for? This knowledge should be available and understood from age 15 on.
@@RichardWagner-hi4zn Absolutely not. The frontal lobe isn’t developed until after 25. In fact. I believe that Women shouldn’t do anything in relations to these matters until after 28 (Almost 30) is when statistically, women make much better decisions in these matters. For you to expect her 15 year old friends to be fully equipped to even dissect these things when it’s the most hormonal and confusing stage is comical. Would you say that about a group of 15 year old boys? These kids don’t even listen to their parents who have waaay more wisdom. What are her friends going to actually say?
As beautiful and sweet as she was it's just strange she didn't have a real boyfriend in high school nor a date for the prom.
I don't get that at all. Was there something about her they didn't say?
@@loveyboo Men are not THAT picky. Plenty of beautiful women are mostly single whilst the wives are average. Not being partnered doesn’t mean anything. It’s called ‘settling’ for a reason. Maybe she didn’t like the rest of the guys? Maybe she just wanted him? Lol. 😂😴
That girl unfortunately had no self esteem. The young brain sometimes doesnt realize the potential it has and what the future holds. What a sad ordeal for the parents.
It seems like her mom raised her to go to college to find a husband. She was very bubbly as she described thst mindset of her daughter. It's a weird flex to have catching a husband in college on your mind in 2016, unless you were raised to think it's your focus.
Yep. No self esteem at all plus pretty superficial. Should have concentrated on college instead of drinking and begging a guy to be with her. I’m just really mad she wasted her life like that. It’s like she was pushing pushing pushing and then he snapped. It all could have been avoided.
@shawandabonner9681 I didn't see any indication that her mother raised her that way. Some women have the family mindset and want to settle down and there's no shame in that. What is a shame is that she chased after someone who didn't deserve her attention.
@rosem, A lot of girls are like that, even today. Ole Miss and many other Southern schools are notorious for having sorority girls who focus more on sorority life than education. Not saying I agree with it, but it's the reality for many women.
@@Marlaina There’s no shame in wanting a family, I agree. The problem is that her expectations were unrealistic (in the sense that she thought she could force it) and she didn’t know when to walk away. He didn’t want anything serious and she continued to push and stalk him. While it’s not unusual for young women to want marriage right away, it’s so important to teach them what is and isn’t healthy so that things like this don’t happen. Nothing good ever comes from trying to force a relationship.
Poor girl was delusional but should not be killed for it. She had so much people who love her it’s a pity there was no intervention.
That's the part that gets me. Both of them could've EASILY moved on with their young lives.
She just annoyed Brandon to death!
Poor girl didn't give a duck what her boozing will do to her baby
I don’t know if it were delusion, or moreso young and inexperienced
@@TNT-km2egbc she wasn’t pregnant at the time?
I used to be like Ally. I never had a example of a healthy relationship with a narcissistic father who just insulted me and my mother.
I took every crumb of affection from boys/men as love and was in very depressing dynamics like this story. Eventually I met a very special person who was somehow able to show me I was worthy of being treated better and I got in a healthy relationship after that.
Same here. How did you find him?
And where did you both meet? At work? Bar?
Me too ,took me a long time to love myself. I could not understand why someone nice like my H wanted me . I was used to begging for affection and this man gave it freely. Twenty years later and we are still going strong 😊
Ladies, do not ever let a man treat you this way. You are better than that. You don't need to chase him, lie to him or let him use you. You are valuable.
I feel like I was Ally about 15 years ago. Then I was broken after the ‘relationship’. Now I’m too old to have a baby. 😭
@@Janevelynplenty of middle aged women have babies nowadays
This will go on long after the dust from your bones is gone.
@@Janevelyntry in-vitro? There’s always a chance if you want a baby.. never give up. But yes us Pesky women can waste years on the wrong man
glad you said LIE TO HIM cause she was lying she was pregnant. This whole thing was avoidable
39:38 It's refreshing to hear an *actually* sympathetic and meaningful statement from the parent of the murderer. We've seen the opposite far too many times!
I was thinking the same thing. I think this is the first time ever, I've seen a meaningful response from the perps family. It shows that sometimes you can lay a bad egg.
Too few and far between are statements like this.
Rlly? ...." we will always pray for tge famiky and friends of Ally Costial" wow Huge Sentiments of Apology and Regret and Acknowlegement for all THEIR LOSS!
Nope, letter misses the mark on Empathy for victim and sympathy for noth vic and her fam/friends!
He Planned that 😢
AND FATHER WAS ??? WHERE???????
Yes. Upstanding parents.
This is one of the most depressing stories I’ve ever seen.
This episode should be shown to every senior in high school btw.
Very Clever Insight…
This Episode Needs To Be Seen By As Many Teenagers As Possible…
The vast majority of teens are not like these two. They are living in the twenty-first century, not the 1950s like Ally was trying to do. They are focusing on studies, girls especially, and extracurriculars, not on relationships that lead to marriage.
@@ValleyoftheRoguethat’s what I thought too…like that was her reason for going to college - to find a husband. Who says that these days?
Very sad story.
Every 8th grader.
Depressing indeed😢
Just the fact she thought her belly would be changing that early in pregnancy shows how naive, obsessed and sadly maybe delusional she was. So sad.
She knew she wasn't pregnant. She was just desperately trying to keep that clown around !
My thoughts
@@comediccheffaith ....are what? You need to write a full sentence in order to communicate.
@@adambane1719yes. Amazing people cannot see how obvious it is that she was never pregnant
She still didn’t deserve to die! He’s delusional to think he’d get away with it!
So sad. I immediately said “ she was pregnant “ when they mentioned he didn’t have any history of violence. Idk if she was really pregnant at one point or not . However, I’ve learned from these crime shows that it’s best to leave men alone once they make it clear that they want nothing to do with you or the baby. You just never know how far someone is willing to go to make you and that baby disappear.
That’s right. The state will pursue him for child support. Let them worry about that.
He dint wanna be no babydaddy !
She wasnt. A clear lie to get him closer to her. may she RIP
Same. The desperation, her longer messages, all of it - she was pregnant, scared, and he was withdrawing. He never really cared about her and backed away when she needed him most.
Think about it all- she was NOT pregnant at autopsy. & if she was EVER pregnant, her bestest besties would have known. &/Or if they truly believed she was, they would NOT have answered with that whole diplomatic “we never can know- the tests were inconclusive and…” BS. They would’ve backed her up. She lied.
Best advice I ever got: whoever treats you like you're not good enough to be with them, take it as they're not good enough to be with you.
She was no prize either. She was obsessive, manipulative and creepy.
Yeah no. This is probably some of the worst and most inaccurate advice I’ve ever heard.
Sometimes you’re not good enough for the one you want.
It’s OK to have standards. No one is everyone’s type or on their level.
You should just go get your “live laugh love” wall decor and cats now…
@@NunyaBizness2.0 We are all good enough for anyone lol. Seriously? She may not be his type. But he isn't better than her. Clearly he is a murderer. So hello...
@@NunyaBizness2.0FACTS I THOUGHT SAME THING
we tend to want what rejects us.
First time I’ve ever liked the defense attorney. He was well spoken and seemed respectful of the victim. My prayers go out to both sets of parents.
Huh? Can't you respect authority and not preach hate?
@@huskyjerk
Not liking an attorney is not hate. That cliche is so over used.
@@huskyjerk Huh?
@@huskyjerk Huh?
Unfortunately dad hired the wrong Forese. There is an entire family of Forese attorneys. I've not heard of Tony. However look into Steve Forese, you'll see some killers caught standing over the body, killers w/the body in the trunk, killers on the run. He has gotten them off everytime.
Whether or not you believe they had a toxic relationship or that she behaved in a certain way, the bottom line is she did not deserve to be murdered. Period. If you think that is a legitimate solution to your problems you are a messed up individual.
Gotta love the 48 hours cases. Well presented and compelling to watch.
often too emotional, i wanna have facts and science
For bored housewives and couch potatoes
@@samonrol9011I enjoy facts and straightforward stories too, however, I also want to know more about the human side of the case.
Its the music for me
@@TNT-km2eg Yet, here YOU are right in the mix. LOL
She seemed to be delusional about and obsessed with a guy that never wanted anything more than a friend with benefits. Killing her made no sense. He knew he couldn't get away with it. Obviously a mental case.
Why having casual sex not very smart.
So many lives destroyed for nothing, it's sad. If only people would learn to talk and communicate, instead of trying to force, hide, lie, etc... Accepting life and others, not trying to change them and respect them for who they are, it is a valuable lesson. Keep your eyes open and stay away from danger, not the other way around.
@@timnorris6287Most women will be murdered to a man they've been with for years. A husband. The father of their children. What's the solution for that?
True, he shouldn't have casual sex with someone he didn't honour.
I remember my father commenting many times about 'girls who take seriously something that was poked at her in fun'.
I'm so thankful I had a father who taught me this.
I was 25 years old when I lost my 24 year old best friend - who had been honorabley discharged from the Air Force and was on track to become an air traffic controller - to a jealous, crazed ex-boyfriend. He did unspeakable things to her and then choked her to death. His parents had money so he received a 5 year sentence. No justice at all. *It's good that this young man got a life sentence and her family got some level of justice.*
Same here. My high school female friend was murdered by her x boyfriend just as she graduated nursing school.
I’m so sorry. Sending you hugs.
@@CobraR1993so sorry 😢
I’m sorry for your loss.
💕
@@CobraR1993I’m so sorry for your loss.
💕
It wasn’t a relationship, it was a 1 sided ‘situationship’
I think it was fully premeditated. He avoided her completely until he got the gun, then took her to a remote location. He drank until he had the courage to get the firearm and then he shot her. The number of times he shot her shows the rage he had against her. RIP, Ally, you didn't deserve this. My heart breaks for her family and friends.
What a shame that neither party reached out to a parent, counselor, pastor, doctor, or anyone like that for help.
Are kids even going to churches these days?! .. Youth groups can have a positive impact and teach good values and you can meet people with similar values
@@NyanyiCnot like in the past. Unfortunately.
@@NyanyiCa youth group leader at a church in my hometown outed LGBT kids to their abusive, unaccepting parents and my youth group leader coerced me into telling my abusive, authoritarian parents that I kissed my boyfriend when I was 16. He went to the same youth group and didn’t have to tell his parents though, because boys will be boys, I guess?
This was in the 2000s, but all I learned at youth group was that adults shouldn’t be confided in because they’ll just run and make your home life infinitely worse.
@@NyanyiC depends on the church and the community. Some of them are extremely judgemental, so young people don't want to engage in those communities. You need to feel that your community is safe space in order to open up and get help.
Well she couldn't if she was trying to trap him with a fake pregnancy. He should have talked to someone though.
The words of his mother are so true. As a parent myself that is my goal for my 3 yr old. Make him understand there’s nothing he can’t talk with us.
Wish you all the best in your parenting journey 🤗
@@NyanyiC Thank you 💐
Absolutely! Those words from his mother really hit home for me. I encourage every parent to say that exact thing to their children, to let them know that they can come to you anytime with any problem or worry. Kids/young adults have a way of feeling alone, even when they do have a support system and family.
Oh boy…keep that going because when he’s 13…
@@ClipZ_Gaming_1 I have hope, my hb was very close with his parents and still to this day… very best friends type of thing, also grew up a good honest men. Communication is very important to us so I hope we will have a good one with our little man too as he grows up. We all have been young, it all seems so dramatic and like its the end of the world for everything and frankly some parents do “help” with that too, like my mom… I love her to death but she has a way to make everything worse when something happens so all three of us(dad, brother, me) tend to tell her as little as possible and focus on the problem rather than also worry how she will feel about it.. if she will panic, die of a heart attack or whatever..
So sick and sad ... she wasn't even pregnant. He killed her for nothing.
She really should not have lied. She would still be alive.
Thank you was looking for that.
She lied so many times. Wouldn’t leave the guy alone.
If he won’t be seen with you in public then you don’t need to see him in private. Regardless, of what the other parties excuse is. Such a tragic story!!!
She played a dangerous game with him that went real bad. Don’t play with people, you never know how unstable they really are.
I was coming to comment the same thing. Can't force anyone to want or even like you. But, playing a dangerous game like this one leads to shows like this one.
"Play stupid games, win stupid prizes".... the girl in this case was relying on her stupidity to believe that she could Gaslight and manipulate him into becoming a father ( by sending him allegedly fake pregnancy pictures and texts ), or rather just commit to a more serious relationship with her....but he had different plans.
@@GuestInMyOwnCountry"getting accidentally pregnant should be illegal" TF lol! So what, your going to arrest the mom and dad bc they didn't mean to get pregnant? What's that going to solve? And it would be a logistical nightmare as condoms aren't 100% either
@@GuestInMyOwnCountry Illegal to get pregnant??? Half of us wouldn’t be here if that was the case! Wow women really have no body autonomy, damned if they do and damned if they don’t!
@@GuestInMyOwnCountrycringe
“She told me everything in life”. It’s amazing how parents are so clueless. Kids never tell their parents anything
BS! There’s some things I’m sure my daughter keeps too herself but she talks to me about anything and everything
@@Wareaglegirl9960don't be sure of that.
That's not true my kids are now late 30's early 40's we talk about everything, but I also don't have kids that are unethical they don't do drugs, meds, and only have a drink on special occasions, or vacation. They are hard working, honest and ethical people. I also don't need to know certain details about their lives. We only had a few incidents their entire lives they were reluctant to tell me as they were ,ore worried about me than themselves and even that was easily addressed.
@christinakinne9790 that's what my parents thought about my sister.
@@Wareaglegirl9960so she talks to you about everything except the things she keeps to herself?
This should be titled a million red flags.
A baby will not ruin your life near as much as life in prison.
That's for sure.
Exactly 💯
@wwe412YOU prolly thought long and hard about that there " reply" 😂
There was no "baby" or pregnancy. It was a manipulation tactic by this woman to trap him into marriage.
Debatable.
She was completely naive and it's utterly devastating. I really feel for both parents. You feel so helpless in a situation like that.
I'm truly sorry for the victim and especially her parents. However, it also needs to be said that Ally was manipulative, dishonest, reckless, and I think it's fair to say obsessive. She did NOT deserve what happened, but she did assemble all the pieces to an evil machine that turned on her and destroyed her. For goodness sake, just walk away!
Why didn't she just break up with him.
Why didn't he just break up with her? He clearly wasn't that interested.
Agree. I said this before and got jumped on! She.lied about being pregnant, wouldn't leave him alone. It doesn't justify his actions but sadly she contributed to her death.
@@TheBeliever1204 Totally agree! I can only assume she was struggling with some sort of mental illness such as an unhealthy obsession of some sort (and an obvious very low self esteem). I honestly think for his part, he was just interested in easy sex and when it became more- he obviously couldn't handle it. Sadly, I think had she never lied: he would not have felt so trapped and probably wouldn't have reacted like he did. I'm not blaming the victim, but she did set all this in motion perhaps not realizing how serious he was with not having a child. So, to answer your question: obsession on her part, selfishness on his.
@@rev3737 Oh I'm sure you did get jumped on!! I was expecting it myself and I'm sure it will still happen, but it's true! She contributed to this horrible situation whether she realized the full danger and potential or not. However, telling the truth is always the best policy and knowing you can't make someone love you is a pretty basic understanding for most people. I'm guessing she was struggling with mental illness much more than anyone realized, and found a toxic and deadly combination with her killer boyfriend.
@@danjohnson887 i get it but like, manipulative person and murderer are way too different the way yall acting like she was as in the wrong as him
This defense attorney was so different than most I see. He seemed so kind toward the victim.
Sounds like this poor girl had low self esteem, desperate for love and was quite immature. So sad, it cost her her life.😢
The old story of "Smart women choosing bad men", has been going on for years, and so many books about it.
@@birdlynn417Possibly due to verbal emotional abuse by their Fathers.
Many of us women are or were like her when young. It’s partly luck if we don’t get involved with men or women like him. Or, if we do, we extricate ourselves before something terrible happens.
No, her "low self esteem", "desperation" and being "immature" (all of which you are guessing at) is not what cost her her life. A twisted young man who always had "terrible thoughts" (his own words) is what cost her her life.
@@janvan113 Thank you for remembering his very revealing words.
sending a guy who does not want a kid, taunting photos of your belly is literally the dumbest most dangerous thing you can do. still horrible she was murdered.
Idk what more the guy could of done or said he made it so clear and she just pushed and pushed and lied and manipulated and harassed
@@goochmcduck4285
And she was doing her best to make the baby be born with fetal alcohol syndrome…my God the way she drank! No way was that kid going to be born healthy. Some people are upset that he suggested an abortion, but look at what she was doing. It seems to me she just wanted to be pregnant to antagonize him…because if she REALLY wanted a kid, she wouldn’t have doomed it at birth by drinking 24/7.
@missyann7588
I actually hope for her own sake and any baby’s that she was indeed lying from the start and didn’t drink with a baby inside her. She was clearly desperate for him to see her and tried to ‘trap’ him with a fake pregnancy so he’d stay !!!!
Imo there wasn’t a pregnancy esp since she claimed to still be pregnant sending belly pics in august the night before her death,
And we know a day later after she was found dead was NOT pregnant !!
@@FrankskinOrweed-ep4ij
So it’s official? She was NOT pregnant. I read one article that said she was 17 weeks…and it sounds like she drank every single day. That baby was definitely going to be born with fetal alcohol syndrome. And not trying to be ugly, but it would have been a burden on everyone. And if she wasn’t pregnant, then she was wrong to keep making him think she was.
Anyway, thanks for clearing that up. I actually googled “was she actually pregnant”…never could get a direct answer.
Bro got taken out by a crazy B so sad for everyone
The immaturity of both these young people is astounding. Neither one possessed any coping skills.
Could it be because their brain is still in the developmental stage? 🤔 Most adults don't even have good coping skills...so why would some kids? 😂
@@loveconquersall419yes absolutely. The brain fully develops at btwn 70-72years according to the latest studies/research
The south is never the brightest
@@mmb1572weird how their reading and math scores outperform those of many northern states. Pretty sure 8th graders up there are on a 4th grade level. It has zero to do with geographic, but everything to do with maturity! Young people think with their hearts and croches, instead of their brains. It’s human nature after all.
Well, they are YOUNG people… If they were 40 making these same decisions it’d be a whole different conversation. I’m a junior in college… 99% of us have done the deed, and 50% of our parents are still bamboozled into thinking they’re that 1% that hasn’t…
Parents dont want to read their daughters texts. It may show a side of her they just do not want to believe.
How can so many young women think so little of themselves to allow these boys to use them the way they do? Girls, women, you will always have the power, and you are the most important thing to yourself, not a fledgling love.
Lol
Seriously, so women don't use men? I mean did you even pay attention to the segment?
I’m wondering if Ally had ever been in a serious relationship before…? She goes so hard for someone who clearly doesn’t give a crap about her.
it seems like ally had unmanaged mental health issues that played a role here. she had inappropriate and bizarre reactions and seemingly no self awareness. poor girl :/
I don't believe she had a serious relationship before this guy. Her mom said she didn't really date anyone serious in high school, and she met this guy in freshman year and was obsessed with him thereafter.
Sadly, the fact a boy didn't ask her to the prom and her sweet best friend did, I say its a fair bet, she never had an actual relationship. Personally, if I meet someone online and after chatting with them, we click and decide to meet, but upon meeting her, there is no physical chemistry, It's hard, really hard, I tell the woman. I have had women breakdown crying and it's brutal. But its better than using them for sex and then blowing them off the next day. I have had some women after being up front with them, say, Hey, we went to the trouble of meeting, what the hell, we can still fool around if you like.
I am old enough, that I remember what it was like dating prior to the internet and I miss it.
true! RIP!
@@johnsmith-ug5tp- That's no so much a matter of relationship. How can it be that there was NOBODY wanting to be her prom night date? Or did she reject everyone because they were not good enough?! And then her bestie went with her?!
I was WTHeck is that?! There is something else behind this.
She seems to have gotten obsessive about him. He should have maturely stated that he wasn’t interested and blocked her instead of participating in this toxic push and pull.
He most likely was responsible for the push and pull, it’s standard operating procedure for narcissistic and borderline relationships, it gets the person they are targeting upside down, it’s a massive red flag but we don’t get taught it in school
@@indiabilly She was wholly complicit in the "push and pull". Any other interpretation is ludicrous to the point of dishonesty.
@@indiabillyI think that's a bit of a stretch. He was a healthy young man in his twenties who was getting free and easy sex. That's pretty hard to say no to. There's no real evidence he was a narcissist or any kind of psychopathy. He got freaked out by the pregnancy and killed her. No excusing that. But not every killer is in the DSM4.
Same thoughts here.
He admitted to always having terrible thoughts. He might have struggles of some sort from childhood. Who knows how far it went. She seems like she was lonely and locked on to him as her fantasy dream man even though he treated her crazy. They both needed mental help sounds like.
"She would have been a great mom and provided everything for that baby." ......drank full bottles of tequilla and went on massive benders the following weeks....the girl needed mental health help. Unfortunately, she crossed paths with someone who was much worse off than her. It's so sad and why I maintain that you are not an adult until your late 20's.
Ally had a very low self esteem.
If someone doesn't want to have anything to do with you, just go away and continue living your life in the best way you can.
Rest in peace, Ally.
My condolences to all of your loved ones.
I would say it had more to do with loneliness and becoming fixated on this one guy after she had sex with him. Most young people go through this at least once in their lives. Sadly, she met a nut job. If not, she would have eventually moved on and made better choices with the next guy she met.
Playing mind games with a mentally disturbed person is never going to end well.
With anyone, especially someone who is mentally vulnerable
Who’s mentally disturbed? Her? I agree
I think she had her own mental health issues . . . But DID NOT DESERVE DEATH for what she did. She is not innocent in her behaviors.
I do not like how she starts every unsolicited text with Like
And it wasn't brought up at all how incredibly messed up it is to pretend like you're pregnant and be binge drinking like she was doing. None of which excuses taking her life but should have been mentioned.
Tragic case. I’m sorry she didn’t realize earlier in the relationship he wasn’t worthy of her and had moved on. His license plate summed up his attitude perfectly.
“Take it!” - Jordan Chase
He should have just got a restraining order and changed his phone number.
He told her he wasn't good enough for her but she wasn't tryna hear it and she had to learn the hard way
He wasn't worthy of her? ok and what exactly did either of them have to offer other than being a psycho?
@@dragorn3212 he wasn't worthy of her sweet and loving kindness she had to give. He didn't even want it for real. Just sad😢...
I remember when this happened in our community. I don’t believe she was ever pregnant, but more obsessed with Brandon and looking for a way to get his attention. It’s heartbreaking that she couldn’t find a way to love herself enough to walk away from a man who so obviously did not.
I have a hard time believing she was actually pregnant given her farfetched claims of drinking a full bottle of tequila, 7 beers, wine, etc. Regardless, such a sad case and a waste of lives.
You don’t mess around with trying to trap a man by saying youre pregnant. That doesn’t justify him murdering her though.
If she believed that she was pregnant, I doubt she would have been drinking since she she wanted to keep the baby. I think she said that to get his attention. She was desperate to have a real, healthy and normal relationship with the guy. That was never going to happen. Not with him.
She deceived with pregnancy, he deceived her that night. Am I missing something?
@@Ze_Moosehe murdered her.
@@Ze_Mooseya! A lot! He murdered her... Even worse, he killed this young lady because of a lie?!? Like wtf yeah ya missed quite a lot
Everything the letter from the guy's family says... so so so very well written.
She really played a dangerous game, clearly she was not pregnant and the fact that she probably lost her life over a lie 🤦🏾♀️ rest in peace, I’m sorry for her family’s loss…
right. she had a goal of finding a husband in college and that goal consumed her and she went about it the wrong way.
fafo
@@cambry12346 exactly, so sad 💔
I totally agree ❤️🩹
She wasn't pregnant, and she tried to trap him into a relationship that was dead from the beginning. She did not deserve to die for trying to love someone, she didn't deserve any of this. She loved the wrong person, and that's incredibly sad.
Wow , she didn’t deserve to die but it’s unbelievable this ppl will not admit that she was extremely messed up herself. She played games, lied , manipulated, down right harassed and just pushed and pushed . A man who already doesn’t want you, lie and tell him you’re pregnant. I’m sorry for what happened, but these two were really messed up
No, she was not messed up - the boy is a murderer and solely responsible for the situation . He led her on. She was simply in love - not expecting to be used and new to relationships. Her guilt was having a pure heart.
B@@billoakes4475she wanted to force him into a marriage. Not about love
@@ReflectingMoon Where did she try forcing him into a marriage? Which message, specifically?
@@tocraneandcrane her plan was to get married by the time she finished college and she she was trying to use a pregnancy to force him to marry her. Her parents said this was what she wanted. She wanted to marry a man who would give her a good life right out of college. She had no idea how dangerous he was.
@@ReflectingMoon Again, which message? Where did she force (or try forcing) him into a marriage? That she dreamt of and planned on getting married after college (a fairly common dream for many, btw, hardly absurd) is nowhere near the same as forcing him to get married. I had the misfortune of being born into a culture where forced marriages can occur, and trust me: this isn't it. You don't have to marry the person you've potentially knocked up. They're not stuck in medieval times. He has the option of not being an actual father figure to the potential child; he does not have to be involved. But what he can't do is decide on behalf of the pregnant person that they need to have an abortion. That's the pregnant person's decision to make. When you engage in intercourse, pregnancy is always a risk. A person who can't accept that this is a risk should not be having sex, ever.
She was never pregnant. She was obsessed with him. Unfortunately she didn’t realize she was obsessed with the devil
I feel embarrassed for her. So sad and pitiful. She needed to grow up. Working my way through college and being late on bills did that for me. Nothing will get you moving on the right track sometimes other than having a harder life than Gen Z, Gen Alpha...and people thought Millenials were spoiled 😒😑🙄 Not true. My dad is proud of me because I am doing life on my own terms with my husband who I met irl and before emojis and Instagram. We are ourselves. Not fake babies like these immature people. I am only 35, and I feel young and happy. I'm an amputee and have a life changing medical condition that is being diagnosed. I work full time and am finishing up Occupational Therapy driving rehab to get my car set up with adaptive controls and get my freedom and independence back! Boom. I do it for me. I work on mental health alone for myself. Haven't had social media in 8 years. These idiots are so immature and babyish. Why on earth would you lie to a crush about a pregnancy! This girl is MENTAL and acts like an early high-school age student. How do parents let their kids end up like this....the world is going to hell. Jesus.
I don't think she was either and she was obsessed with the wrong guy. Poor thing.
Moral of the story: When you are stalking someone relentlessly, you may become the prey instead of the predator - especially if you are stalking a psychopath. Both of them had serious destructive mental issues.
She sounds like she was suffering from BPD. He sounds like a psychopath. Can you imagine two people less appropriate to be parents? Genetically, any kids they’d have would have multiple mental illnesses.
Exactly.
@@ailleananaithnid2566I agree. She LIKELY had BPD and he is a psychopath. They find each other as their destructive features pair up with others with similar fractures. Happens daily unfortunately
Yes
@@ailleananaithnid2566What gave you the impression she had BPD? Not discounting it. Just wondering as I'd never heard anything myself that pinged as Borderline.
This young man used this young woman for as long as it was convenient and when he no longer wanted anything to do with her, out of desperation she used the pregnancy scam to try to keep him in her life. The saddest part is, he never really was in her life … he never was even interested in meeting her friends. What a horrible loss of two young lives and the tremendous loss that both of their families will feel forever.
She also used him. It was a mutually friend-with-benefits kind of arrangement. She fell for him. Stop acting like she’s a victim. She went stalkerish and full psycho mode to entrap him when he didn’t show interest in a serious r/s.
This is so depressingly tragic. As a viewer - I, even felt suffocated by Ally. She was beyond OBSESSED. It’s clear, they both suffered mentally. Their lives intersecting, was unfortunately the perfect storm for disaster.
DON'T make it like he has some kind of a let off....HE was a MONSTER she was an ANGEL❤❤❤
I paused and read the chats and I also felt suffocated by her texts, that girl was obsessed, any man would feel suffocated and try to get away from her
She was mental ill
Her parents needed to get her into therapy.
Tbh ,that test she sent him was a positive pregnancy test, a faint line is a positive test. Which means she sent him a fake test. I definitely think she was lying/gassing him. Unfortunately he was unstable. Wish she had loved herself and not tried to force him to love her …. Smfh . Hope she’s resting peacefully
I'm a woman and mother to a grown and married girl and I felt suffocated by Ally. I walked away from the tablet a couple times and didn't rewind 'cause it felt awful.
Girls need to learn to abstain. Condoms and birth control polls will fail you. And for heaven's sake, stop using drugs and drinking. I shudder to think what could've happened had she been really pregnant.
Parents, teach your daughters that if they engage in premarital sex and become pregnant, to leave the possible father the heck _alone_ when he doesn't want to be part of the child's life regardless of him being a sexy, Southern, doctor's son.
So sad. My heart goes out to Ally's family and friends. Young people in college live your best single life! Don't be in such a rush for these serious relationships.
I feel so sorry for Ally. Not all of us young women are able to navigate the dating world from a self loving and self respecting place and we do immature things
That's why close your legs until marriage which is the only safe way to know who really cares about you!
@@truth1844 that's not all that true.
People's hormones and chemicals change as we age.
I knew a gal that was married with a child.
She said once she had a kid that she lost her attraction for her husband and didn't even like his touch anymore....only guy she was with and married him by the way.
@@truth1844a marriage contract is not a guarantee of physical, emotional and spiritual safety, unfortunately.
Many women in particular, are trapped in abusive or neglectful marriages.
@@truth1844 that's a wild statement considering how many women are murdered by their HUSBANDS
@@katiemccarty7050 ... "Annual rates of male-on-female spousal homicide ranged from 0.95 to 8.76 per 100,000 couples; for female-on-male spousal homicide, this range was 0.13 to 2.29" In other words, this is a rare occurrence. Yet, my point has nothing to do with this, I pointed out that a wise woman who wants commitment would value herself enough to not give away what a man values most in a woman (purity) for nothing. For many, what doesn't cost anything, probably is not worth anything.
If she thinks she is pregnant, why the hell is she drinking so much. This girl had serious issues that I don't think her friends and parents wanted to admit.
She was a child and didn't want to be pregnant, so drinking was her way of ensuring the baby wasn't going to live while feeling like she didn't abort the baby. That's my guess anyways.
Right? She was no Angel.
Unfortunately there are many such cases
But she doesn't deserve to be killed. It doesn't matter what she did or didn't do. The only blame lies in the hands of who killed her. This is victim blaming.
@@justin9744nobody said she was🤷🏽♀️
Girl had some issues and no one should use pregnancy as a tool, that being said none of that is grounds to k*ll someone. Two kids with not nearly enough life experience
It is so sad that Alley, for whatever reason, wanted so badly to be with this monster that she was so obsessed with trying to find a way to get him to want her as much as she wanted him. Pregnancy will never make someone want you or make someone love you yet there are so many young women who thinks it will. It is sad that she did not know her own worth.
It seems that she didn't have any experience with boys during high school. I don't know if that even makes a difference...but her murderer appears to be the first guy she could claim, and she just wasn't going to let go.
I've had my obsessive moments in the past, when it came to relationships. But when the guy sent a clear" leave me alone" signal, I moved on. Who wants to hang around someplace you're not wanted?
She is a monster. She was obsessive, reckless and a liar. She pushed him to the absolute limit.
He blocked her in their sophomore year because she texted him too much. They should have stayed apart. He clearly had problems but so did she. She did all the things that would drive any sane person away, thinking it would bring him closer to her.
Her mother said she wanted to go to a southern school to meet a southern guy, marry him and have children with him. What is this, the 1950s?
Now this girl in NO WAY deserved what happened to her, but if she would have remembered to take birth control pills the way she remembered to drink 24/7, this might have gone a whole other way. Maybe she RIP.
@@missyann7588Is there something wrong with finding a guy, getting married, and having a family? I guess you think the current hook-up culture is better? Smh.
Ally was lonely and desperate which clouded her judgement. Brandon knew she was vulnerable, used her and then felt cornered. So sad for all involved.
No so sad for Ally !!
Lonely? She had all kinds of friends. Poor girl didn’t deserve this but I don’t think anything here indicates loneliness. I think sadly she was unhealthily infatuated with him and this is a lesson for all, much as it may hurt, don’t chase a person who doesn’t want what you want. True Crime has taught me anyone is disgustingly capable of what this boy did except for the choices we make. My prayers for her family and friends and all affected by this tragedy.
@@admirallilyexactly
These young women really need to protect themselves better, and not let themselves become feeling so desperate or needy for love and affection. Your safety is always number one and should be respected above all else.
Being lonely and desperate should not have been a part of this equation. She went to college to study...bottom line.
This is heartbreaking. R.I.P. Ally. No one deserves to die in this manner.
Absolutely Not
He is a horrible individual but at the same time, that constant bombardment of insane text messages from her would have tipped many people over the edge. I don't have much respect for either of them
The ending was very painful. The killers mothers words are so real. My heart goes out to all the parents. Ally makes me wish I could have just hugged her. ❤
Two toxic people coming together can never end well. She had a toxic view on relationships, and he had a very dark toxicity.
So true
No she was a young girl just trying to learn relationships
@@celticwarrior777no she was obsessive
@@celticwarrior777She tried to trap him when he obviously didn’t want to be in a relationship with her, it doesn’t justify what happened to her but she was clearly obsessed and very manipulative, coercing someone into loving you is not only pathetic but also very dangerous. Men and women both need to just take no for an answer.
@@celticwarrior777correct. He was 45 yrs old. He knew better than the young girl
People learn things in life with time . Unfortunately some people don’t have enough time to learn. God bless her and her family and friends.
You learn through death. You keep that memory in you in the afterlife then you come back to do better. So she is dead because of unfortunate decisions in that life but she will do better in the next one.
If wishes were horses , beggars would ride
Yes
One of the kindest comments I've read about this sad case. She was young. Didn't have enough time to grow up.
You made me tear up 💔💔
It was coke and alcohol?!? Not the fact that he went the week before all the way to TX to pick up his gun?!?
Poor Ally. I wish she knew what lay ahead & chose herself instead. May her family find peace & comfort in knowing that she is resting & surrounded by the love she desperately desired. She doesn’t have to worry about the perils of this world. I wish all young women can take a lesson from this, if someone doesn’t reciprocate the love, kindness, respect that you give, then they aren’t for you. Leave them today!
Yeah. And quit LYING that youre pregnant to keep a man..may she RIP
Ally is not here in body alongside her family, but allys family has their memories and love that can never belong to anyone but theirs alone.
@@christinalock9937 Beautifully said💕
could* take
What a shame.
Poor Ally was delusional and naive in thinking that being pregnant would bring her and Brandon closer together. Somehow she was unable to except, or even sense, that Brandon was pulling away from her.
If she had had the presence of mind to get examined by a medical doctor to confirm or deny the pregnancy, her reasoning process regarding their lopsided relationship might have been more realistic - and Brandon wouldn't have had to be so panicked.
She wanted it to be all rainbows and unicorns with him, and he didn't want it at all.
Sad.
she was clearly lying. Even you are DELUSIONAL while calling her delusional
@@whodat84exactly ,I really dislike victim blaming of any kind . When Chris Watts murdered his pregnant wife and two children ,U wouldn't believe how many comments I read that blamed her for what that monster did .Saying how she liked to home to clean r that she pushed him to hard by wanting things near r nice , unbelievable and it was women that made those ignorant comments .I don't care of Allie texted him a zillion times r whatever ,She didn't deserve to be murdered by this spoiled brat Drs Son .
The audacity of you to even reference Ally as being to blame for any of this shows me your level of maturity. Women are supposed to lift up, support, and encourage ALL women!! OMG you need to do some serious self reflection ‼️
@watchmeheal1176 Well it's obvious she was trying to trap him by saying she was pregnant. Even the psychiatrist said her posts went on and on and he barely responded, and when he did, it was only to tell her he wasn't interested. And even still she would send pictures of her stomach, almost rubbing it in his face that she was pregnant. Then telling him how she was out binge drinking. I don't think she would have been drinking if she was pregnant, And the autopsy showed she wasn't pregnant. She was basically torturing the guy and trying anything she could to get his attention. Not saying what he did was right, but she tried playing games with someone that wasn't stable And it didn't turn out so well
@@madelainemadelaine2934 I don't recall if the photo of the pregnancy test showed anything proving it to be hers, like showing her hand in the picture holding the test or something in the background showing it was taken in her apartment. Because really you could google that and get pictures that she could have sent him.
My prayers go out to the heartbroken parents and to Ally's best friend. I'm sending strength to help deal with their loss. Ally was a beautiful girl. RIP 🙏🕊️
It was very hard to watch.
How do you send someone strength? I understand saying prayers, but please be careful what you say/write esp. when only God can do something you claim to do. This distracts from the seriousness of this tragedy.
Whenever a man says, " you are better than me" &-or "NO babies", you BEST LISTEN!
When will they learn
Yeah, victim-blaming!
@@jgunn03many comments really are victim blaming, this is not one of them.
@@Lemana28021989 YES DEAR, it is.
"you best listen." Clearly victim-blaming.
She was used to getting whatever she wanted. As stated she was the most beautiful esteem filled cutie. She was going to get her way, even if it wasn't with this killer
So sad. This was by no means “love” but obsession. The poor girl just could not accept that sometimes someone is just not interested. In this case he was desperate and committed the worst felony after trying to gain courage with alcohol and drugs. Coming from such a great family; so sad that this guy couldn’t reach out to his supportive and loving parents.
From how her friends described, it seems like she really didn’t have relationships in high school which is can show up as attaching yourself to the first guy you fall for thinking that just because you had sex. Her texts definitely had a desperate tone to them. It seems like this might’ve been a “first time thing” she was trying desperately to hold on to.
Stop crying over him - he slept with her knowing how she feels and knowing he doesn't feel the same.
He was using her for sex and when problem poped he killed her.
Its gross you you all act like its okay what he did and he is so poor.
@@morganablackwater2017 Exactly!
You don’t know if his parents are caring and loving. More then likely he was afraid to go to them due to their judgment.
@@MADNESS084
You don't know that at all. You're the one being judgy.
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@@vickyabramowitz2885😂
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@@vickyabramowitz2885 Dunedin New Zealand here.. love all American accents, southern drawl most of all! ❤
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Kids, don't get hooked on anyone, when you are that young. Have fun. Date. ENJOY YOUR LIFE. Make memories with your family and friends. When you find the one, you will know it. You won't have to force them to invest in you or the relationship . They will be there.
When its Real Love, it will be reciprocated. They'll give you as much as you give them. In GENUINE care, emotions and actions.
True indeed. Youth is truly wasted on the young.
Add: Study…
Increase your intelligence
Add: AND use birth control. Use the 90-day implant.
Tell that to Ally. She was obsessed to the point of ruining a boy's life with lies.
@@differenttakethanmost
Yes!!!
i wish people would stop throwing out "good christian" as if it's a shield from people doing bad things to others, and having a general bad demeanor/attitude. it is such a non-defense.
Two things never to do: tell your husband he’ll never see the kids again when you want a divorce, and telling a guy you’re pregnant when you aren’t.
Neither one of things deserves death
Amen
You literally risk getting killed for either thing.
@@favored6007 No but it often leads to it.
@@favored6007 Of course not, but it multiplies your chances exponentially.
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Wow...she really held him hostage using the threat of pregnancy as a weapon. Apparently, she couldn't accept that he was just not that in to her. Very sad for the families.
Why he started a relationship with her?? He wanted use her as his time pass?
If he was not into her than he had enough time to break up and don’t waste her time.
Used the threat of pregnancy as a weapon? Thats a bit extreme--the only person using a weapon in this situation was Brandon. She wanted to be with him seriously and he just wanted to hookup with her. Once things got complicated, he thought this was the only way out because he’s a coward.
@@Fakegrape7777 exactly!
@@vutomi9874 yes
A lot of people here are victim blaming Ally, like they never experienced bad decisions in life, being young and experienced. What happened to her was a tragedy. My sympathy for her family.
Same could honestly be said for him
All these stories are humbling and shows at a moment’s notice it all can be taken away by evil.
This is very sad. This girl seemed to be attempting to manipulate this boy who appears to be weak. The pregnancy seems to have been a ploy to get her way. Neither one of them seem to have understood how to behave in a honorable fashion.
I was about to say this. She was provoking him with those text pics of her stomach fully knowing how he felt about having a kid. It doesn't justify what he did, AT ALL, he's a dirtbag murderer, but still curious why she thought it okay to do that.
Well said.
There was no pregnancy. She flat-out lied about it.
I am going to say something here, that is going to be very unpopular. And most likely, will be taken wrong by some. First off, she did not deserve to be violently taken from this world by anyone. I always advocate for women, and girls, to be heard and to be able to be safe in their everyday lives. BUT, in my opinion, she seemed very obsessed with him. She was WAY into him. He did not reciprocate those feelings back to her, at least not in the text conversations. She honestly was riding the line of stalker-ish behavior. This girl seemed very smart, well educated. Someone who also seemed to care a lot for those closest to her. I do not believe that she was pregnant at all. I think it was a ruse to keep him in her life. He was slipping away from her, and she had to pull something off to keep him close to her. There is no way she would conaume alcohol if she were truly pregnant. No way. And her constantly making remarks about the home pregnancy tests, and not being able to possibly hide her belly.....well, it drove him crazy. No, he shouldn't have taken hwr life. Its qrong on every level. It's too bad, that he didn't feel safe or comfortable enough to come to his parents about this issue that he seemed to be struggling with. Im sure they would have advised him in an appropriate way. So many lives ruined here. And a young lady, who is gone forever, over something that may or may have not even been true at all. Like i said, this is just an opinion. No way did she deaerve this.
She made some bad decisions
This story will stay with me. I’m trying hard to instill into my own children NO relationship is worth more than the relationship you have with yourself. Ally chased him so hard it’s painful to watch but I think so many women have been “that girl” when we were young. You have to know when someone is not into you, or just using you for sex, respect your own dignity and just leave him alone. Unfortunately for sweet Ally it had such tragic consequences.
Seems like she kept a LOT from her parents as well. The mom said she told her everything. Obviously not. I have 2 daughters and we’re very close. But I also know they aren’t going to tell me every single thing. They both went to college and both had very different experiences. Both have their degrees one is married with 2 kids. The other one is single & happy. But this poor girl was missing something in her life to feel the need to fake a pregnancy. And if he didn’t like / love her, he should have just left her alone. Two lives ruined. This was so sad to watch.
He's a 100% responsible no matter what.
She isn’t here to defend herself or sue the program for defamation. Defense lawyers will say anything to stop their client getting the death sentence, in my eyes she did nothing wrong except meeting an abusive psychopath.
Parents should learn... Your kids won't tell you everything.
You can’t make someone want you, love you, or want to have a life with you.
His mom sounds like a wise woman. One can only wonder how her child did not realize that she felt that way.
As a parent myself, I do exactly as the mother of the boy said. We need to talk to our kids. You NEVER know what is going on behind those smiles or abrupt changes. Nothing to do of being teens or young adults. Nothing to do with she got her period, etc. Hou never know! Talk to them as I hope your parents did to you!
You can talk till above and beyond!!! Ultimately they they are of a legal age, we us parents! Can only voice our opinions, and wants! But then the law steps in? Parental wants excluded. In my opinion our children, as parents should have a legal status over them till they are out of full-time education.
Mom’s message was very heartfelt. Will definitely share that message with my own sons. ❤
What Ally didn't know? She knew she wasn't pregnant yet still proceeded to torment her "boyfriend". That ended up costing her her life. I might choose a different title for this sad story.
Ally's trick backfired on her
Exactly
Agree
He thinks a baby would ruin his life, but he’s doing cocaine?
He would lose is freedom of doing Coke
Coke doesn't have an 18 year minimum commitment
And killed someone, now his life is really ruined
@@ajzephyros7454Well,for some,it does..And not in a positive way like a baby
😂
I think one of the most frustrating things is when heterosexual people are sexually active they act surprised when a pregnancy happens. Even if you use protection there is always the possibility of getting pregnant and the conversation about what would occur if it happens should be before having sex. I feel bad for Ally, like she was clearly way too into Brandon when he was only wanting casual hookups. It sounded like she got caught up in her dream of meeting a southern gentleman at college and tried to make it happen with a crazy, selfish person that only wanted her for one thing. RIP Ally.
I believe everyone knows homosexuals do not produce children.
She wasn't pregnant.
yes! it drives me crazy! they’re always shocked. i’d be shocked if college-aged kids didn’t get pregnant
So sad. Believe a guy when he is not into you! Sex before marriage is a dangerous thing.
There was no pregnancy, understand? Ally was manipulative and conniving and a stalker.
So heartbreaking to see this young girl’s life taken! I hope her family heals and find peace
If a man starts threatening you to cease a pregnancy, do not meet with him alone. Period! No matter how much he sweet talks you. Remember 3 hours ago or yesterday he didn't want that baby. 👀
Maybe don’t stalk and lie about being pregnant?
Wow, how sad. This girl played a dangerous game with a dangerous boy. She was very manipulative and he was a ticking time bomb. His immature brain allowed him to make a very immature decision.
Well said.
Yea, parents need to teach their kids to not hold onto people who don't want what they want. Had she moved on she'd still be here. I'm sure that guy would've eventually done something else stupid (or worse), at least she would've had a chance to grow up and live her life.
How tacky to victim blame.
I don’t see any victim blaming here. Just people stating what happened. That said this is ridiculous what this guy did. He is truly a dangerous character who should never be free. What kind of response is this? Absolutely horrific behaviour.
Not immature. Evil.
I wish these young college students would realize that just because they are at college, they are not safe.
It annoyed me that the mom says "oh she tells me everything" but doesn't want to know what was really going on in her daughter's life by reading her texts. Her mom's parenting style is probably why she was ill-prepared for college life. Two people that were about as mismatched as two people could be. Girls/women, think more of yourselves than marriage being your end all/be all in life. This woman tried to manipulate a man into marrying her and paid with her life, unfortunately.
It’s NOT that the Mom didn’t want to know what was really going on in her daughter’s life when she was alive.
It’s more likely those text messages would be very traumatic for the parents to read after they lost her. They have ALREADY experienced enough trauma (which can likely be seen on an MRI scan.)
People really need to be more sensitive to these people’s pain.
FFS, can we JUST be a little more empathetic for other people’s suffering???
It’s NOT that hard!
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Girl was obsessed with the boyfriend. Very toxic.
His mom’s statement was perfectly put together.
Let’s teach our kids to come to us to tell us whatever it is and fix it together before they commit a crime or hurt someone else trying to solve their issues.
And let’s teach our daughters to leave when they don’t want them as girlfriends instead of tormenting boys who wants nothing to do with them.
I agree fully
He was never her boyfriend.
He should have used protection
Seems like she tried to trap him. I’m sure she knew she wasn’t pregnant. I can’t imagine she’d be drinking heavily if she was, or suspected she was. She was probably trying to test his true feelings about her ‘pregnancy’ by telling him she’d been drinking. So sad that she was so hooked on this evil man. RIP Ally. 😢
I was 28 when I got pregnant outside of marriage. I found out after we had split up and the decision to keep my son was mine alone. I regret nothing.
If she had been pregnant they would have found evidence of a pregnancy or miscarriage.
To use a supposed pregnancy to keep a man is manipulative and deceptive.
Mothers-to-be have had their babies cut from their wombs because a woman has lied about her own pregnancy.
I feel for her, for him and the families who must be going through hell.
He is NOT a victim.
@@charlescoley6289 I don't think they are saying he's the victim. Just pointing out how, sometimes, victims play a role in the making of their murderers.
She was so pretty. Deserved so much better than that weak boy.
@@charlescoley6289Yes he was. He was manipulated. Doesn’t mean he’s not guilty, but he was a victim. His actions don’t erase that fact.
Ally was annoying to her own end.
I am so sorry for your loss I also lost a child in 2016 he was 24, seven years later I still feel he out serving in the army it feels like yesterday that I saw him last yet at the same time it feels like an eternity. May God help all of us parents who have lost a child. God bless
I am so sorry for your loss.
I’m so sorry. Sending you hugs
So sorry 😢❤
I’m sorry for your loss.
God bless you & your family.
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