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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 18 พ.ค. 2024
- Frank LeBoeuf, Kasey Keller and Craig Burley join Dan Thomas on ESPN FC Extra Time to answer fans' questions and discuss:
0:00 The crew talks F1
1:50 Would Paul Mariner be proud?
3:33 Who is having a better season: Kai Havertz or Nicolas Jackson?
5:08 Can Chelsea compete next season?
6:00 How long do you give Darwin?
7:46 Should Slot talk to Klopp about Liverpool?
9:41 Most difficult shots to save?
10:08 How do teams keep going with nothing to play for?
12:18 Who is getting promoted?
13:24 Ed Sheeran watches FC?
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This is Havertz’s 4th full season in the premier league, he’s in a much better team, and he cost £65m. Jackson is playing his first season in the prem, he’s in a struggling team, and he only cost £30m. Despite this, Jackson still has more goals than Havertz and he’s proving his worth more
These pundits are very conveniently forgetting 12 goals and 6 assists in the EPL is the best season Havertz has ever had. And he’s played 4 seasons in the EPL. Jackson has 13 goals and 5 assists in his very first season with three matches to go and is a converted winger playing literally only his first full season as a striker in his professional career. Craig is literally the Exhibit A pundit who is going to be proven wrong about Jackson because he’d rather be “right” about criticizing a player like Jackson instead of actually being objective and having perspective. Jackson is only 22 and in his first season in England literally playing his first full season as a striker.
I like your argument for Jackson. Pretty fair and logical
@@blueheaven4838 Kai was playing in the midfield 1st half of the season and is just a goal behind Jackson, its not a debate who has had a better season
Jackson is the one I like your take. in 2 years the boy will show why he was worth a wait while performing fairly good.
@@MM-sc9vg And according to these pundits Havertz was “horrendous” in the midfield. You can’t write off the first half of the season and pretend like it didn’t happen for Havertz. The unbiased and objective reality is Havertz has settled into the Arsenal side very well up top and plays the 9.5 position for them very effectively. Aside from contributing quite a few goals and assists over the past three months, his general hold up play, link up play, physicality, and drawing penalties have been top notch. Jackson had next to no top flight experience before this season in general, let alone as a forward. Pundits like Craig offer zero perspective about Jackson if you regularly watch the show. Craig recently said Jackson offers nothing as a forward when the reality is he’s actually very good at dribbling, has a very good first touch, links up play well, runs the channels very well, is fast, physical, and tracks back. He needs to improve his finishing. Otherwise, he is actually a very good player. Craig is a dinosaur in many ways and has a huge ego. Once he decides he doesn’t like a player like Jackson (as an example), he has a really hard time actually seeing reality because he’d rather hold onto his original opinion until the bitter end instead of acknowledging players like Jackson need time to adapt, improve, and acclimatize to a new league and country. Craig literally said he could care less if Jackson scores in the rest of the matches this season, he still won’t rate him. That’s not being an objective pundit. That’s called having a bias and agenda. Something too many pundits in general have instead of just judging players based on their actual performances.
@@Photosoflife exactly according to these pundits, they have no clue what their on about, yes havertz didnt hit the ground running from the start but he still played well in midfield which these pundits fail to acknowledge cuz they already made their conclusions on the signing before he even kicked a ball for arsenal.
This guys should think Havertz cost 70 million and jackson cost 35 million. Jackson should not even have the same goals as Havertz. Havertz is supposed to be outplaying him for that kind of money
Arsenal and chelsea have the same amount of Big chances created, Jackson and Havetz have the same amount of goals+assists and Jackson, as you said is half Havetrz price
Jackson is definitely underrated this season, he’s missed a lot of chances but his overall play has been great.
Havertz has had a great season playing multiple positions. Can’t really compare both players really I feel.
That’s not how it works what kind of knowledge is that
@@tropical_pibe explain then
The question is who is having a better season... their price doesn't matter.
Don't forget Havertz missed a lot of chances too
Keep Jackson then we’ll keep Havertz 😊
@@user-qh4pk6ie6k Keep the diver :)
If Jackson fixes his scoring issues, he won't even be in the same league with Harvetz.
dont forget havertz was playing in midfield for half the season and is just 1 goal behind jackson
@@christianoroghona1403 LOLLL
Nunez plays in a better team than Jackson, Nunez missed most sitters in the league, How on earth Jackson getting bashed this way despite scoring 16 league goals?
and that in his 1st season in the PL and his 2nd season in an european league overall
13 league goals*
The problem is its 13 league goals in like 7 or 8 games. He scores big in games chelsea wins big and inflates his stats just a little bit
@daltonburnett7181 same for most strikers so you can't blame Jackson. Haaland scored 4 goals yesterday and then would be ghosting in big games.
Have you not seen how clowned Nunez is???
I question the opinion on havertz and Jackson, havertz has been in the prem a few years, missed TWICE as much as Jackson has for Chelsea, has joined a winning team and was still terrible until a couple weeks ago. Jackson been a better signing
Keep Jackson then we’ll keep Havertz 😊
@@user-qh4pk6ie6k We upgraded with Cole Palmer - believe me, no Chelsea supporter misses Kai Havertz lol
@@adamross1992haha upgrade lol yous ain’t even fighting for europe
@@user-qh4pk6ie6k you’ll see… worth £350k a week? he’s a fraud, still can’t believe you paid £60m for him. 🤣
@@adamross1992 you sure buddy😂
Havertz has less goals than Jackson playing for a better, way more settled team and he has been in the PL for some 4-5 sessons already compared to Jackson debut in the league. Yes, for a Chelsea fan Nico can be quite frustrating in certain games alright but overall he is way better than this panel portraits him especially for someone who is only 22.
Keep Jackson then we’ll keep Havertz 😊
@@user-qh4pk6ie6k yes keep Havertz Nico scored more goals in the PL than Havertz ever did in his first season while being "bad"
Bruh you guys all acting like these 2 players fill the same roles/positions, Jackson is trash, I think once nukuku and werner find form he’s gone.
@@tawhiriryan1173 they asked the question bro
Havertz still dunked on yall🤣. 5-0 remember and a brace
Chelsea will compete next season IF they get a:
-20 PL goal striker
-A competent medical department (Less injuries to key players)
-Great Goalie
-Owners not interfering GET OUT OF THE WAY STAY IN AMERICA
-An EXPERIENCED CB
Oshimen contact made, medical team turnover and private professionals have offered their services and are in talks to join the team, Don't know about Goalie but I'm fine with Petrovic starting and Slonina promoted to backup, Boehly is running Chelsea like a business, same thing Abramovich did, buying a bunch of talent, loaning them out and raking in millions in loan fees for the next few years + those that dont make the first team will be sold for profit and tosin adarabioyo might come on a free
@mamadousy9632 This Chelsea squad was built to be ready to challenge in 2025/26...
- Petrovic has been good in goal, and will improve.
- The defenders are fine when all fit.
- I'd rather watch Jackson grow to 25 league goals, than drop £80m on Osimhen.
- Medical department recruitment has already kicked in and three new hires will be made by pre-season.
- The owners are showing conviction to their plan... They recruited the directors who recruited Palmer... They kept their word to invest in the squad.
@@sausageandbeanmelt4634 I agree with everything except in regards to Osimhen, get him in now and if he has a tough adjustment period, we get that out the way earlier and he grows alongside the rest of the squad
If Chelsea gets a world class lw and a capable lb it’s over
We don’t need anymore CBs. We have enough good ones plus Chalobah coming good.
Jackson is winger converted into Striker.....
Well Havertz is a Midfielder converted into a striker
So was OG Ronaldo
@@folcaneyup in his united days
Jackson has a higher ceiling than Havertz that’s clearly obvious
The only thing I can predict is that Man City is going to be in the title race next season
Pain went straight to Steve and Craig 😂😂😂😂😂
Jackson is having a better season I cant believe these guy play football
The question is who had a better 1st season in the EPL. Nico is the answer btw
Your retarded, lol 13G 5A in 32games compared too havertz 4G 3A in 27 games as a midfielder and don’t forget he won the champions league
Jackson is being judged on how many goals he has missed and not at all on how much he has contributed.
Yo... It's Jackson's first season in England and really his first season as a full time starter... He's played well.. I like him as #1 coming back, he's 22 years old, let's see him improve. He's still a young player. Our problem is the training
Jackson really has stat padded a lot of his goals as well. He doesn’t score many vital goals, always seems to score in games where it’s already 2-0
@GIBBO4182
The irony of your comment just a few days later after Jackson scored the game winner against Forest in the last few minutes of the match. Jackson is a massive talent. Anyone with actual football knowledge can clearly see that. His first touch, dribbling, pace, hold up play, running into channels, putting in dangerous crosses, being physical, and tracking back are all excellent. And he’s now scored not only 4 goals in his last three matches but had a goal disallowed 4 matches ago against Villa for being inches offsides and had another effort in that match hit the post. He’s up to 17 goals and 6 assists, with 14 goals and 5 assists in the Premier League. He’s only 22, in his first season in England, his first full season as a striker, and has massive upside.
Chelsea needs one left wing, one striker, one defender
Jackson is underrated.
The jury is still out on Darwin Nunez at Liverpool after 2 seasons where he’s blown hot and cold and has been hit or miss particularly in front of goal and he’s continued to divide opinion. On paper he’s had a very good season, but when it matters the most he has crumbled and has missed so many easy chances that’ve costed them points which has led to them missing out on the premier league title after spending majority of the season in 1st place. It’s concerning that a 75 million striker in crucial games isn’t clinical enough and that’s been an issue for him and there’s literally a TH-cam compilation on the chances that hes missed and until he adds a ruthlessness about his game when it comes to the goals, he’ll never be classified as an elite striker. He’s not a terrible player, I think he brings a lot to the table going forward, but there’s a feeling that he’s not good enough to be Liverpool’s starting striker especially on a team that wants to win the premier league and compete for multiple trophies in a season. They have no choice but to rely on him even though at times he’s a problem for the team. Other than Mohamed Salah, who’s consistently scoring the goals for Liverpool and he’s not been at his best of late even though he got a goal and an assist against Tottenham after his team was out of the title race, Diogo Jota is one of the best finishers in the Premier League and his scoring ability is lethal, but in a season you can’t fully rely on him because he’s always injured, Cody Gakpo is also hit or miss and he’s still not guaranteed a regular starting spot in the team, Luis Diaz is full of energy and running and his dribbling is fantastic, we’ve known this about him for a while, but he needs to improve his finishing because he’s an exciting player to watch. Under the new manager Arne Slot, they have a good squad that he’ll try to get them to the next level and make that final push for the premier league title, I think what Liverpool are gonna do is give Nunez a season or 2 and if he continues to misfire and Jota keeps struggling with injuries, then they have to make a decision and they might even sign a new striker who can actually score goals in big games and stay fit throughout the season in all competitions.
We need a main striker and much better wingers and then there could be a small chance.
I thought Leicester were coming back in the première league!!!
It depends on if they can have better luck injury wise.
Since the midway point of the fixtures so far this season Chelsea have been forming enough consistency to be 4th in the table. I would hope next season they continue to improve enough to get at least a CL spot next season.
Well, if Chelsea buy a good centre forward in the summer and get the six players, who will be definite starters back from injury. Reese James, Wesley Fofana, Levi Colwill, Ben Chilwell, Enzo, who’s been playing with a hernia for five months and Christopher Nkunku. There’s also Lavia who only played 32 minutes all season.
I love this show so much especially Craig, Don and Frank , Kelly all make it a nice show. Good guys keep it up. I watch this show every day. Thank you coz Ilove football.
I don't understand why every manager get good sign in his first season, it seems pep will still dominate EPL for another season, but I would prefer Jackson over haverts
The team only seems to perform well when Palmer is playing. They require more world-class players and a shift in attitude. The statistics for games missed by Palmer show a poor performance.
Firing Tuchel was completely foolish. The American owner doesn't know what he's doing.
If arteta play havertz as false 9 since the start of the season he would score and assist more.
Jackson's improving. As much as he's missed sitters, he's improving and whilst Havertz has better attributes in some areas, he's hit a plateau
Keep Jackson then we’ll keep Havertz 😊
@user-qh4pk6ie6k chelsea will win the league before arsenal does so absolutely I'll keep Jackson!!
@@user-qh4pk6ie6k anytime, any day we’ll keep Jackson mate. I’m sure that’s why we sold him for 60m😂
@@Thukkuthukku LOLLL
I’ve never heard them say anything good about Chelsea😂😂
Judging from their current performances you'd think so but Chelsea being Chelsea as of recent, they can travel back to their old roots of playing trash or either competing and causing real problems next season
They are playing really well !! They have improved
If they stick by Poch, they’ll be top 4 come end of next season. Fight me!
Chelsea is coming for the title next season. Don’t sleep on Chelsea. Fofana, Reece James, Lavia and Nkunku will be back from injuries and Chelsea will buy Sesko and world class LB too.
Osimhen
You are very funny, do you really think players like Reece, Nkuku W Fofana and Chilwell will ever going to be injury free ? Better think twice before feeding yourself with false hope 😢 safe yourself from bp
😂😂😂😂😂stop sipp’n on that bottle lad! Give your head a wobble!
Chill well needs to go ASAP he’s trash
Ok 😂
We won the Champions league when Havertz was playing. His impact was monumental.
Jackson misses a lot but also contributes a lot to Chelsea's style of play. There is no way Harvetz season goes ahead of his especially considering the experience and money spent.
Good job hiding your surprise, Dan, at the fact Lando won for the first time
If im Chelsea i wony buy any young star again they already have a good set of talents young players they just need like 4 experience players. In the
CB , holding midfielder, left back , and left winger with this and what dey got they can go high next season
Leicester city once came from the championship and won the league. Here's a Chelsea side rebuilding and could be top six this season and a whole man doesn't think they can challenge? Ridiculous!
He is the one that creates those chances? How many chances do others create?
liverpool should try to sign osimhen bcoz nunez just cant calm down before taking a shot so he misses more than he hits
Jackson better than Drogba?
First season at Chelsea comparisons:
Havertz: 45 games - 9 goals
Drogba: 41 games - 16 goals
Jackson: 41 games - 16 goals (Two games left to play)
Jackson has 13 league goals. Drogba only got 10 and 12 league goals in his first two seasons. Havertz got 4 league
goals.
Jackson is overall playing in a much worse team.
Drogba was playing in a defensive mourinho team that created little chances, but he still scored when needed. If Drogba played in the semifinal against city you bet he would have had a goal .Jackson doesn't score when needed but Drogba scored the winning goal in a lot of one nil mourinho grinders .that said we knew what were signing and he is a good signing for 30 mil because has meant to be backup as we did not expect nkunku to be injured all season.
Too soon for Fran to answered that
Lets beat havertz with the same stick as jackson
Last season
At 290k (jackson at 60k)
Havertz actually underperformed his xg even worse then jackson
Yes if we get a better striker LB and a LW
cucurella is cooking. jackson can play lw, same for nkunku
Cold Palmer init ❤❤😊😊
Will Frank ever became a straight man ?
Frank says, "NO".
I'm not a Chelsea fan but 2016 = 10, 2017 = 1st! Fantastic squad of young players and future England legend Cole Palmer, plus a few shrewd signings by Poch, they will win it next season Frank.
Havertz had a slow start but calling his start to the season “horrendous” is very over the top and not really inaccurate.
@southnewton1
The only reason they are calling his start to the season “horrendous” is because they had a clear agenda against him and Raya. And these pundits have egos that don’t allow them to simply acknowledge they were wrong. So they have to retroactively portray it in a manner that makes them look like they knew what they were talking about the whole time.
Chelsea they are only going to Compete if they avoid too many injuries. they have a very good coach and for sure, they will compete even will surpass man untd, Liverpool and Spurs next season.
4 good games this is what we talking about😂😂😅
Jackson clearly having a better season than Harvertz
Chelsea fans getting all excited about this guy padding his stats in another 5-0 win. Then they’ll be all quiet when he screws up an actual important game. I’d rather have a player that scores 10 game winning goals than 20 meaningless goals
@AdamP41182
The irony of your comment only 6 days later after Jackson scored the game winning goal against Forest in the last few minutes of the match.
i love craig but he should show a bit more respect to ed
Please give Jackson some credit, for a 22 year old 1st season in England. He has been better
@wasindafrancisumar6397
Fast forward 6 days later and he scored yet another goal. This time the game winner in the last few minutes against Forest.
These were the same pundits that said Arsenal won't have been in the title race this season and last
Please stop cutting out time between takes.
Jackson superior to Havertz
Havertz as a striker was awful for Chelsea and I’m blues fan he isn’t a striker his best position is CAM which he dominated in leverkusen but these managers still play him as a striker 😂
Yes, Chelsea will be much better next season. Already we can see improvement from the last season.
Don’t buy into these talking heads Jackson clears he’s playing out of position and is only 22 and 20+ GA in PL alone his debut season in completely rebuilding team
Of course Jackson 😂
Frank had them winning the league this year
These fake so called ex chelsea players are hilarious
whats hilarious is Clownlake fans like you who forget the past 6 months because of 2 wins in a row, whats wrong with you? why do you have the memory of a goldfish?
You obviously never watch burley or lebuff play.
At best when everyone is healthy and they have a proper striker, Chelsea are a European team. Them competing for the premier league title they’re years away from that as they’re not at that stage of doing that. Top 4 getting back in the champions league is exactly what they’ll be striving for next season especially they get European football. That’s seen as an improvement for them because they finished 12th last season and that’s been the minimum for them. I’ve brought this up many times with this being a long term project building on the results in the present day and being patient when it comes to recruiting and the managerial role is what’s gonna make them an elite club again. The reason why I say that they can eventually get back in the top 4 is because obviously strengthen the squad even more by signing players that’ll elevate the team rely on core players and hopefully the players can stay healthy because injuries has been their biggest Achilles in the last 2 seasons. This depends on who the manager is because is Mauricio Pochettino the right manager for the short or long term. They’re not consistent enough because of the injuries and unpredictability of results as well, Chelsea’s squad is very young and they’re trying to get back on the right track even if it’ll be inconsistent.
Congrats to Lando Norris for winning his first GP!
I didn't know these clowns can predict the future now. The same way stevie said he didn't know where the goals were going to come from and yet more goals have been scored this season than the last.
I guess when you're a pessimist it is hard to see anything good or positive happening.
Get ready for man utd level criticism next year😂
Chelsea will in it next season🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉😄😄😊💯💪
its only west ham... calm down
Jackson needs to work on his maturity along with Madueke. The purse swinging hissy fit they had over the penalty Cole Palmer ultimately converted was pathetic and unprofessional.
It's a general rule of thumb in the prem that a team that does good in the end of the season (like, at least last 10 games), also does great the season after. I think they'll compete for top 5, maybe 4 if everything goes right. I don't see man u staying up there, and same with villa.
Compete for top 5 next season?. We are already just 6 points off 5th this season with 3 games left with a better goal difference than spurs. Although with only three games left, we are highly unlikely to finish above spurs this season. But were already 'competing' for 5th. We will be competing for top 3/4 next season guaranteed.
@@zh1148 you know what, i do see spurs or Liverpool dropping in form. Also y'all need newcastle to continue being rubbish too. Top 4 is indeed possible.
How these guys are so excited about F1...?
Craig Burley is my least favourite ex Chelsea player. The lad is annoying and so hateful
He’s truthful. Truth hurts
@@user-qh4pk6ie6k he’s not truthful he’s a pessimistic knob
@user-qh4pk6ie6k
He’s actually not. But keep falling for it.
Havertz was shambolic for years for Chelsea
Until Arsenal actually have Jackson, they will keep on arguing.
these guys are sh*t analysts...Kia had 4 goals in the Prem in his first season and 9 goals all comps and kia is still compared to a guy who is just about to finish his first season in the prem with 13 goals and 18 goals all comps...and Nico is playing in a dysfunctional team
@Bhabsiiam
And Jackson scored again today against Forest with the game winner in the last few minutes of the match.
Im gonna say nico cuz he was playing in a inconsistent, mess of a team and its only his 1st season he rack up more goals than havertz in chelsea..yes nico could easily have 20 goals by now with the amount of chances he missed
They talk about the amount of chances Jackson has missed, Havertz has been just as bad.
Haverzt misses just as much and Jackson is 10x the player.
Keep Jackson then we’ll keep Havertz 😊
How can they say Havertz is playing better than Jackson? What logic? Just cos he is in a team doing well? Jackson has outscored him in a struggling team. Jackson has also played left wing for a period of the season. Yes, he has missed some good chances but he is young, its his first season in prem and he is half the price of Havertz....i dont get the logic.
@guane69
Because these pundits are lazy. That’s the reality. And Jackson is exactly the type of player pundits like this completely mess up on because they’d rather belittle him at 22 and see all his faults instead of seeing all the massive upside clearly in his game. And the irony is he scored the game winner today against Forest in the last few minutes of the match.
Kai Havertz having more non penalty goals in the premier league than Cole Palmer, same thing with Nicolas Jackson having more non penalty goals in the premier league than Mohamed Salah Cole Palmer Kai Havertz and Bukayo Saka is another example on why when watching games, people need to use their eyes and stop just judging everything off the stat sheet and this whole “stat driven culture” is why nobody takes football seriously. Stats can be used as an indicator what a player can do, but they don’t tell the full story unless you watch the games because sometimes numbers are misleading. Because Jackson has scored 13 PL goals without taking a penalty that means he’s better than Salah and Havertz, same with Havertz over Palmer. It’s true that Nicolas Jackson isn’t a flop because he’s had a good season from a statistical perspective with 16 goals and 5 assists in all competitions and at times he looks good and he does things very well but he misses so many chances. In the premier league he has 13 goals, 4 of them came against Tottenham including one of the worst hat tricks I’ve ever seen. People that look at numbers without watching the games would praise a guy for scoring a hat trick against a team with 9 men. Both Jackson and Darwin Nunez would win a Ballon Dor for the amount of easy chances they miss in front of goal.Anyone who watches the games knows that. So by this logic, Cole Palmer is better than Vinicius Junior because in a more challenging league on a weaker team he has more goals and assists than him this season. It’s like watch the games please because the proper way in judging how well a player played in a season if with your eyes in combination with the stat sheet. For god sake we have eyes for a reason stats aren’t everything.
Why are Africants always yelling like this? It just highlights the lack of education and threadbare English.
Jackson is Chelsea’s level now
@gunnerjoe6700
Coming back to this comment after Jackson’s game winner against Forest in the last few minutes of the match.
@@Photosoflife yeah that has proven me wrong
@@gunnerjoe6700 Jackson is a massive talent at 22 and only in his first season in England. It’s not hard to see at all if you objectively watch him.
compete for what exactly the question confuses me somewhat really 🤣 lets not forget chelsea last season chelsea did not qualify for europe did they🤣
oh well if frank says no it’s a fact
This group has never said anything remotely close to correct regarding Chelsea. Been proved wrong at every turn.
@PlayerAyte
Because they are genuinely lazy pundits. Not kidding or mocking them either. They are genuinely lazy and far too comfortable in their own little bubble.
yes Chelsea will get top four.
Amazing, Frank's comment on Havertz vs Nico proves it's all recency bias.
"Oh yeas, Kai was horrible earlier, but now he's good, so better than Nico"
Yeah these pundits always get everything right. They can't even predict next gameweek correctly, let alone next season. Chelsea fans shouldn't fret much about these clown's opinions.
No. They will abstain from competing and eat cookies instead.
They beat Westham 5 0,conversely they lost 5 0 to Arsenal.
Arsenal was the better team
Are these commentators that stupid? It’s Nico‘s first year in the pram ha it has been in the Premier league for at least 3 to 4 years. And he still having an average season. Nick has only had about 150 games of top football under his belt and he’s younger. Smh I swear these commentators don’t think before they sometimes.
@CR3ATIV3_MiNds
They are lazy with their analysis and don’t perform basic due diligence. And Jackson scored yet another goal today. This time the game winner.
This Chelsea agenda is ridiculous, but we'll prove all of you wrong next season, tho
But Jackson is new in the league...
Keep Jackson then we’ll keep Havertz 😊
No not yet
These guys are always hating on cheese for no reason! They either do it on purpose or they don't know ball at all
@Didi-li2zl
It’s both.
Who cares what frank thinks
The amount of Chelsea fans arguing about why Nicolas Jackson has been as good a striker as Havertz this season is laughable. When comparing both of them based on the games that they played up front it’s night and day no comparison. Havertz has a far better ratio of both goals and assists and has shown consistent finishing over performing his expected goals, while Jackson has severely underperformed his.
nothing positive can come out of these pundits, these guys r too negative about chelsea
Jackson is a winger outscoring strikers and having missed a bunch of sitters all in the same season.
How everyone expected more from him is ridiculous. No one knew him last year.
£30m bargain if you ask me.
This must be the worst pundistry I've ever watched