One note on clean-up - if you melt the leftover beeswax mix with the hot water and put it down your kitchen sink, you are in for trouble over time. The wax will solidify as the water cools while traveling through the plumbing and eventually cause a clog. Suggest wiping with paper towel to remove as much as possible prior to washing the bowl. PS Thanks for recipe.
Not like the chit chat? Seriously? You talking about what/why/how you are doing what you do is the best part of the channel! It's how I learn :) And thank you, it's much appreciated!
As an all-round DIY'er, I've been anticipating this video since you mentioned in your video I saw last week. I'd much rather make my own and having the ingredients, ratios and where where to purchase is exactly what I was looking for. Thanks for taking the time to put together this super informative video, Kim. Blessings!
Hi Kim!..nice to see your smiling face!..white bees wax is yellow wax heated and highly filtered/refined to get the colors out. When the bees first make the wax its white but becomes colored by all the stuff they collect..pollen..nectar/honey..propolis etc. Yellow is just heated and filtered to get the big stuff out. I just melted down a bunch more cappings yesterday. Honey=yum! See ya!🐝👍🏻👍🏻😃
Just stumbled on this video. Very nice work. But, you are not only beautiful, you have what I think is the voice of an angel. Thank you for making me smile today.
Hi Kim, it's funny that just today as I was working on a project, I was thinking that I needed an abrasive paste and lo and behold, your video popped up...perfect timing. I like the two in one, both the fine and medium combined. Thank you for your chit chat, its very informative. Keep up the great work. Your South Texas friend.
I love to watch you. I am old and had to give up my wood shop. Therefore I live my desire through you and others. You are my favorite. It must be the Christ in you. By the way all the lettering on the product showed up in reverse not that it matters.Thanks for sharing you are a blessing. Don't know how long I'll be around but it is great to enjoy a show like yours. God bless Rev. Jim Callender
Well I made two batches today It was quick and easy thanks to you Kim. I have enough for probably a year and saved a ton of money. Thank you very much Kim I greatly appreciate everything you share with us.
Kim thank you for taking the time to make this very useful video, I have been buying abrasive paste which is very expensive here so I definitely think I will be giving this a go thank you again...........Ps I couldn't help but comment on how stunning your eyes are waow very beautiful, your husband is a very lucky guy. God bless you all and stay safe 👍👍👍
I finally got around to mixing up your recipe for sanding paste using diatomaceous earth. Wow, I tried it today and the clouds parted and Angel's sang. I should have tried this long ago! Thank you for helping some of us newbies along.
Kim, another method of heating up your mix is to use a small crock pot that you can buy from Wally World or similat stores. The one I bought is around 1 to 1 1/2 quarts in size and cost around $10. Small enough to not take up much space and will not get overly hot so as to avoid combustion. Works extremely well. Thanks for sharing!
Hey Kim, so nice to see you. Nice to be able to put a face with the turner. Live watching you turn and work through any problems. Have a great day and keep the videos coming.
Hey Mrs Kim Tippin. Thanks so much for yet another very informative and educational video. It's such a pleasure watching you work your magic. And thanks so much for keeping in mind my suggestion of putting yourself in the video, its brings such joy to my little heart knowing you read my comment and acted on it😊. It brings such joy to my heart to view so beautiful projects and see such a beautiful artist present them😍. Your beauty shines through your work and soul. And it gives me as a viewer a personal connection with you and your work😁. Please don't ever stop including your beautiful self in your videos to come. Take care from a dumbstruck admirer of your work and self💓bye until the next patiently awaited video😁😁😁😁
Alchimie... TipKim making white gold? Unfortunately I'm not supposed to do such 'dangerous hobbies' like woodturning by my doctors so I only can admire and enjoy your skills and try to encourage you to overcome 'expected female behavior' because you're such a talent... no chitchat - simple, obvious truth! I hope that you're sticking with the 'faith piece' expressing what you - and no one else but you - do feel about faith and your position towards it as a woman. Meanwhile I'll be watching and admiring the results of your 'impatience' making you turn wood/resin as effective as possible. Love these 'baby fingers' and the general practical sense you were gifted by HIM! Have a good week with your family and take care! :-)
This is a good comprehensive video, the information was invaluable for anyone trying to make their own paste. Given that we're taught to "go up through the grits" when finishing, I'd have been interested to see a segment polished with the 2F and then the 3F afterwards rather than either/or (or a mix of the two at the same time). May not have been a fair test in terms of one segment getting twice the amount of finish time, but I would be interested to know if it makes a difference to progress through the paste-grits. Also wondering if it would make more of a difference on a dense-grained light wood rather than resin? The resin was a good test device for obvious reasons (like being transparent!) but as you say it didn't make much of a visible difference; at least not that I could tell. Maybe the paste makes more sense as an abrasive sander and sealer combo on wood pores? Either way, I enjoyed and appreciated this video, thank you for putting time and effort into it!
Trying again because my last comment just dissappeared on me. Thanks for the great content! Just a quick question. Since sanding is done in progression low grit to high (each removing the scratches of the former). Wouldn't mixing medium and high grit be the equivalent of sanding with both a lower and higher grit sandpaper at the same time?? I'd have been curious as to your results if you'd have done a section with medium then fine to see if the results would then be noticeable. Just my thoughts. Thanks again for all you teach and inspire!
Hi Kim, When I eventually use up the abrasive pastes I have bought, Yorkshire Grit, I will be making my own so I will keep this video for future reference. Most abrasive paste manufactures sell 2 grades. Would you not get a netter result using the medium and then the fine pastes? This is not a criticism but a genuine question. Take care Kin. Cheers, Huw
Since the abrasive breaks down smaller and smaller as it's applied, even mixed together, the larger grit will do its thing and continue breaking down until the smaller grit is equal to whats left of the larger, and then the smaller breaks down along with it. Basically mixing them just saves the step of switching containers. ;)
Hi Kim. I have used diatomaceous earth for making paste according to your formula in the past. It works great and we also use it to prepare minerals for our goats. What advantage have yo found in using pumice over diatomaceous earth? Thanks.
Hey Kim! Hope u didn’t get soaked by this last hurricane like we did! Our northern beaches got hit pretty hard...so did NC....now I guess NY is getting it! Love watching u and learning!
Thank you very much Kim, I was going to make some up and was unsure of the different quantities but you did the work for me. Love your videos and how helpful you are. Well done
@@KimTippin I always watch yours, Doug's and Nick Zammeti's video's. Your's are always so informative, Nick is so funny and Doug is like a king of resin. I turned a bowl today of Spalted Tamarind and while finish scraping the bottom I didn't check my depth enough and cut thru and had to pour a resin plug with totalboat, some orange and red liquid dye and some bronze powder it's drying so I can finish it tomorrow. So you all have help me being creative. In the past I would have tried to glue a wood plug but I'm happier with the resin. Once again thank you for all your help.
Thank you for your clean and informative videos. I just use Howard’s Feed-n-Wax (beeswax and orange oil) and add Diatomaceous Earth or pumice. A quick stir makes a paste.
Another great video. One thought. Maybe I'm not thinking about it right but if you mix the two different grits together, you're not going to get the benefit of the finer grit. If the more abrasive grit is in the mix, you're always going to have it causing scratches at its own level (minus however much that grit gets worn down in the process). But if you do them consecutively, then the finer grit will stand on its own and give a better finish.
Hello Kim, Just got to 7 min 17 s. You appear to be applying each grit directly to the 600 sanded surface. If so then perhaps build the pasting in the same way as refining the sanding. So the whole with coarse, then 2/3 with medium and the the final 1/3 finishing with fine. One wouldn't go from 80 grit to 600 because the remnants of the 80 grit scratches would be left behind. Just a thought; just under 14 minutes to go. Regards, Glenn. :-)
even the commercial products only say to sand to somewhere between 200-300 before going to grit. it works by effectively going thru the remaining grits (in most commercial cases from 300-1000 grit) on its own as the grit breaks down and becomes smaller and smaller., so kim actually went above and beyond by sanding to 600 first.
Although I know nothing of turning or abrasives, I do know about teaching! This is a perfect “how to” video 👍🏻 😃 and I love this little peak behind the scenes 😊
So Kim FYI. I made two different batches of my own paste. One was out of diotomatious earth and one using rotten stone. Both were made out of bees wax and mineral oil. I find that using the rotten stone paste is better for darker woods. It gives it more of a richness to the wood. the diotomatious is for all of my lighter woods. BTW Now I want to make my own tooth paste...thanks for the idea. Be blessed...Blair
I literally stumbled upon your channel by accident. I'm so glad I did. I love your outlook and great attitude. Your voice overs are so relaxing. You're beautiful, you're work is beautiful, and look forward to learning more. Keep up the awesome work! ~ YOUR NEW FAN 🙂
Kim, thank you so much for this awesome video! This is a whole new exciting world and you have a natural way of explaining things. I love the thought of experimenting with different chemicals and making new products that get you results. I probably enjoy this so much because I have a background in water treatment and used chemistry for 18 years of my career. We get used to only hear your voice over and seeing your hands while you work, so it was very nice to see your face and see your facial expressions! You have an amazing personality and this video show cases this! This was an awesome experiment and I appreciate the time that you took to do this! I have watched it 3 times now and have taken notes. Thanks for sharing so much of your knowledge with us and I love your "chit chat"!! You are incredibly inspiring and enjoy your videos very much! Please stay well and your whole family be well! Heard Covid is bad in FL. It has been on the increase in IN just in time for school to start. Thanks for sharing where you do your bargain shopping too! God Bless you and your family!
I greet you with respect! I'm from Romania and I follow your TH-cam channel with great pleasure and interest, I bought Vulcano powder in a box of 250 grams, so it's volcanic rock powder, brown powder. As far as I know, volcanic rock is very hard, now I ask you, would it be good for abrasive paste?
Thank you for watching!! I am not sure about the volcanic rock. It would be something I would definitely try. Make a small batch and use it on a hard and soft wood. The result would be interesting regardless. Let us know what you come up with if you trst it out!
These pastes aren't meant to be used as finishes. You apply them to the work, rub them completely off (a paper towel comes away clean), then apply your finish. The mineral oil / beeswax mix simply serves as a carrier for the abrasive, to keep it in suspension in an easily applied paste. Carnauba wax would serve no real purpose for this.
@@roamingchemist2514 true your right david . how ever after you get a nice lacquer finish on a high end piece you go over the last coat with the sanding paste and the finishing paste and it just pops . plus the carnauba wax hardens and resists finger prints . like putting perfume on a pretty girl . you know what i mean .
@@diydarkmatter Sure, but you still rub the pastes off. My guess is that it is called "finishing" paste because it is meant to do double-duty - soft waxes and mineral oil to carry the abrasive (probably DE) with an added harder wax like carnauba which remains behind. I actually do this in two steps - use the DE abrasive polish first, rub it off, then follow up with Johnson's paste wax which contains carnauba.
Hello Kim, first thanks for sharing. As I watched to paste being applied it appeared to me that the 50/50 out performed the others and I agree with you that would be my choice also. I have a question though: it appeared that you were looking at something to your left and the camera was on your right and the image of the packages was backwards, were you using a mirror? Keep on smiling.
Thank you! I was looking to my right because my dog was loudly running through the house and I was also watching lighting strike through the window. A big storm was coming and got very loud. I was trying to finish before the rain came and knocked the power out. I didn't use a mirror, I just didn't notice that the video recorded backwards.
Hi Kim, rottenstone and pumice are what french polishers use. How about I contact an optical polishers suppliers and ask about some polishing rouge in various grits/grades. They're used for glass lenses n prisms and similar optical materials. You have got me thinking now. Thank's for your input. Regards, John.
More great info Kim. P.S. The last time I used the animal grade mineral oil from TS., after eatng too much cheese,.......the neighbor found me grazing in my yard.
I don't usually make many comments because I sometimes find it hard to put thought into words, but I will try here. The difference between 2F and 3F ( I use EEE Tripoli) can be rationalized in terms of sand paper... the finer 3F would be used after 2F same as going from 100 grit paper to 240 grit then 300,400 600...etc. try doing a test of the 2F followed by the 3F, and you will fine the finish to be more clear and "shinier". By mixing the 2 grits your basically defeating the finer grit, by sanding it back off with the courser grit. On sandpaper, as the grits wear off, you will get a finer finish as it wears out, because the sand on paper becomes finer grains as it wears out; the same works with the Tripoli/pumice . If this makes any sense. Have a good week and God bless
Just a quick suggestion to add to your repertoire of admirable ideas. I noticed when you were trying to clean the paste from the grooves you were having a hard time. For places like that I use an old (re-use/recycle) soft toothbrush. The toothbrush can also be used to reapply that paste to the piece you're buffing. Also, besides the free part, they aren't hard to clean and don't give you splinters. I love the attitude you bring to turning and life in general.
Using a 50/50 mix may be a good idea ,but is it worth skipping a step ? Wouldn't it be just as "dull"a sheen and not at the desired polished level that one was expecting / hoping for? Could it effect your final finish OR is that a final finish? Love Ya
For ME yes. For you, do what you think is best. Like I said in the video, for MY mix, I am using both. I am simply putting info out there, you do with it what you want. Thanks 😊
Kim, just a thought. I’ve been making my own abrasive paste and finishing creams for a long while, I went to Goodwill paid $8.00 for a nice little crockpot. I do all mine in it, no worries about stoves, flames etc. I also sell mine products, mostly to other turners in the area with a donation to our turning club. But will ship to other turners too.
Thanks for the great info and video Kim! I use the same mix but use demetrified earth but have been considering adding some BLO to penetrate and see if it makes a difference?! Greg
I make a similar paste. I actually use parifin also in my mixture as this is my finish as well and I get a better gloss. I found some black pumice that give a real interesting finish on open grain wood.
Ok Kim, first of all, awesome video! You have been a TREMENDOUS help with your shared information. I am curious though about your thoughts about the DF powder. If you feel there wasn't any visual difference, then is there a reason why you don't continue to just use the DF powder? Or is it just a simple thing of changing things up for your method?
I still use DE powder. I just wanted to show other was and products that can be used. I have batches made of DE and pumice. I didn't compare them. That is something you would have to experiment with to suit you. :)
@@KimTippin Ok, yeah I was just curious if there was any other points of interest and yeah I mis abbreviated that DE powder....hey...maybe a combo of DE and FF......🤔
Hi Kim, I love your videos. I was wondering if you had tried Tripoli (EEE), or diatomaceous earth as an abrasive in your beeswax/mineral oil medium? I use it, and I believe it closely resembles Acks Abrasive paste. I haven't used pumice though, so I can't offer a comparison. A major source of Diatomacious Earth is near Tripoli (Libya) hence the name. DE is available at hardware stores as a pest control agent.
I have several batches of different abrasives. I made them to see if there is a big difference in them. So far, I haven't noticed a difference. Time will tell. I used the pumice in light maple and didn't notice stains.
Thank you so much for watching 🤗 I am blessed to know that my videos can be helpful. I know Eddie has helped me a ton and still does! So many amazing turners on YT that have helped me become who I am as a turner. God bless them all!
All of these abrasives are friable - easily crumbled. As they get worked into the wood or plastic, they'll break down into finer and finer particles. So it probably doesn't make much difference which grade you start with (so long as it is the same material, with the same hardness), it will disintegrate as you polish. Pumice is hard, made from glassy volcanic rock, whereas rottenstone / tripoli / diatomaceous earth are all basically limestone, which is softer. I personally sand wood to 600 grit using Mirka meshes, then use two homemade pastes, same recipe as Kim's, first applying a 4F pumice paste, rubbing until a paper towel is clean, then a diatomaceous earth paste, again rubbing until the paper towel is clean. On close-grained woods, this will produce close to a mirror finish.
Thank you for sharing your application. I have a mis made of separate grits and then of 2 together and then a mix will DE and 2 pumice. I am still trying to see if there is a noticeable difference. not do much...yet. lol I randomly switch between them depending on what I am working on. Guess as long as it look great when finished, dosen't matter. lol
@@KimTippin My guess that you won't see much difference between the pumice / DE mix and the pumice alone. Since pumice is harder than DE, the DE will degrade quickly when rubbing leaving you with basically pumice abrasive. One thing I found through trial and error is I need to apply sanding sealer before using the abrasive pastes, both to avoid discoloring the wood with the wax / mineral oil and clogging the pores on open-grained wood or end-grain.
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One note on clean-up - if you melt the leftover beeswax mix with the hot water and put it down your kitchen sink, you are in for trouble over time. The wax will solidify as the water cools while traveling through the plumbing and eventually cause a clog. Suggest wiping with paper towel to remove as much as possible prior to washing the bowl. PS Thanks for recipe.
Tom here; I just started experimenting with this and a week later (NOW) I see this!!!
Awesome. thanks so much!!!
Not like the chit chat? Seriously? You talking about what/why/how you are doing what you do is the best part of the channel! It's how I learn :) And thank you, it's much appreciated!
I appreciate your appreciation 😁🤗 Thank you 😊
As an all-round DIY'er, I've been anticipating this video since you mentioned in your video I saw last week. I'd much rather make my own and having the ingredients, ratios and where where to purchase is exactly what I was looking for. Thanks for taking the time to put together this super informative video, Kim. Blessings!
Thank you for watching!
Hi Kim!..nice to see your smiling face!..white bees wax is yellow wax heated and highly filtered/refined to get the colors out. When the bees first make the wax its white but becomes colored by all the stuff they collect..pollen..nectar/honey..propolis etc. Yellow is just heated and filtered to get the big stuff out. I just melted down a bunch more cappings yesterday. Honey=yum!
See ya!🐝👍🏻👍🏻😃
Just stumbled on this video. Very nice work. But, you are not only beautiful, you have what I think is the voice of an angel. Thank you for making me smile today.
awww Thank you so much, Richard 🤗🤗
Sorry about the volume. It sounds normal on my computer but uploaded, it is not normal 💁♀️🤦♀️
Watching on my phone there were no obvious issues at all. Great video all around and super informative
@@hammerdick82 Thank you 😊
You are the most beautiful woodturner to grace the earth. ❤ and your work is amazing!
Thank you so much 🤗🤗
@@KimTippin you are most welcome. I thoroughly enjoy your videos and also learn something from each and every one!
I made this stuff and I was floored. It’s so awesome 👏 👏👏👏 thanks so much.
Hi Kim, it's funny that just today as I was working on a project, I was thinking that I needed an abrasive paste and lo and behold, your video popped up...perfect timing. I like the two in one, both the fine and medium combined. Thank you for your chit chat, its very informative. Keep up the great work. Your South Texas friend.
Wonderful! Thank you so much!
I love to watch you. I am old and had to give up my wood shop. Therefore I live my desire through you and others. You are my favorite. It must be the Christ in you. By the way all the lettering on the product showed up in reverse not that it matters.Thanks for sharing you are a blessing. Don't know how long I'll be around but it is great to enjoy a show like yours. God bless Rev. Jim Callender
Well I made two batches today It was quick and easy thanks to you Kim. I have enough for probably a year and saved a ton of money. Thank you very much Kim I greatly appreciate everything you share with us.
awesome!! that is fantastic!
You are do welcome !
Thank you so much for watching 🤗
Kim, thank you so much for the very helpful videos! i really enjoy your style of getting the message across.
Excellent video, Kim!
Thank you!
Wonderful video. Thanks Kim 👍have a good time
Thank you! You too!
Good stuff, Kim. I just might try this when I dabble into the resin world!
Thanks so much for the great information. Love your videos. U r a very good instructor.
Thank you so much, Dean 🤗
Kim thank you for taking the time to make this very useful video, I have been buying abrasive paste which is very expensive here so I definitely think I will be giving this a go thank you again...........Ps I couldn't help but comment on how stunning your eyes are waow very beautiful, your husband is a very lucky guy. God bless you all and stay safe 👍👍👍
Thank you so much, Gavin 🤗🙏 God bless
Just got to say. I learn a lot from you. The way you explain all details.
Awesome!! I am blessed to know that! Thank you so much! 🤗🤗
I finally got around to mixing up your recipe for sanding paste using diatomaceous earth. Wow, I tried it today and the clouds parted and Angel's sang. I should have tried this long ago!
Thank you for helping some of us newbies along.
Awesome!!!! That is great to know! You are so welcome!!
Congratulations on what you do !!!
Kim, another method of heating up your mix is to use a small crock pot that you can buy from Wally World or similat stores. The one I bought is around 1 to 1 1/2 quarts in size and cost around $10. Small enough to not take up much space and will not get overly hot so as to avoid combustion. Works extremely well. Thanks for sharing!
Thank you so much 🤗🤗
One of the best, most informative how to vids I’ve seen. Great job thanks Kim! 🙏🏽
Thank you so much 🤗
Great information, thank you so much for this. Had no idea it is so simple to DIY abrasive paste.
Hey Kim, so nice to see you. Nice to be able to put a face with the turner. Live watching you turn and work through any problems. Have a great day and keep the videos coming.
Thank you so much!
Hey Mrs Kim Tippin. Thanks so much for yet another very informative and educational video. It's such a pleasure watching you work your magic. And thanks so much for keeping in mind my suggestion of putting yourself in the video, its brings such joy to my little heart knowing you read my comment and acted on it😊. It brings such joy to my heart to view so beautiful projects and see such a beautiful artist present them😍. Your beauty shines through your work and soul. And it gives me as a viewer a personal connection with you and your work😁. Please don't ever stop including your beautiful self in your videos to come. Take care from a dumbstruck admirer of your work and self💓bye until the next patiently awaited video😁😁😁😁
Alchimie... TipKim making white gold? Unfortunately I'm not supposed to do such 'dangerous hobbies' like woodturning
by my doctors so I only can admire and enjoy your skills and try to encourage you to overcome 'expected female behavior'
because you're such a talent... no chitchat - simple, obvious truth!
I hope that you're sticking with the 'faith piece' expressing what you - and no one else but you - do feel about faith and your
position towards it as a woman. Meanwhile I'll be watching and admiring the results of your 'impatience' making you turn wood/resin as
effective as possible. Love these 'baby fingers' and the general practical sense you were gifted by HIM!
Have a good week with your family and take care! :-)
Good video, I always like your DIY stuff. God bless you and keep up the good work.
You are an amazing artist! Congratulations
Thank you so much 🤗
Great video Kim!!! This was super helpful! Thank you for all that you do! You're a Rockstar!!😃
Thank you so much, Ed 🤗🤗
Great video! Thanks for sharing your knowledge!
My pleasure!
This is a good comprehensive video, the information was invaluable for anyone trying to make their own paste. Given that we're taught to "go up through the grits" when finishing, I'd have been interested to see a segment polished with the 2F and then the 3F afterwards rather than either/or (or a mix of the two at the same time). May not have been a fair test in terms of one segment getting twice the amount of finish time, but I would be interested to know if it makes a difference to progress through the paste-grits.
Also wondering if it would make more of a difference on a dense-grained light wood rather than resin? The resin was a good test device for obvious reasons (like being transparent!) but as you say it didn't make much of a visible difference; at least not that I could tell. Maybe the paste makes more sense as an abrasive sander and sealer combo on wood pores? Either way, I enjoyed and appreciated this video, thank you for putting time and effort into it!
Trying again because my last comment just dissappeared on me. Thanks for the great content! Just a quick question. Since sanding is done in progression low grit to high (each removing the scratches of the former). Wouldn't mixing medium and high grit be the equivalent of sanding with both a lower and higher grit sandpaper at the same time?? I'd have been curious as to your results if you'd have done a section with medium then fine to see if the results would then be noticeable. Just my thoughts. Thanks again for all you teach and inspire!
Thanks, perfect, just what I need as I can't get hold of commercial paste in short time. We have the same patience levels it seems!
great informative video. thanks for showing us your recipes.
You're welcome 😊
Excellent instructional video! Well done and easy to follow. Thank you for making it.
You're very welcome!
Great video Kim. I am now subscribed.
Awesome! Thank you!
Hi Kim, When I eventually use up the abrasive pastes I have bought, Yorkshire Grit, I will be making my own so I will keep this video for future reference. Most abrasive paste manufactures sell 2 grades. Would you not get a netter result using the medium and then the fine pastes? This is not a criticism but a genuine question. Take care Kin. Cheers, Huw
Since the abrasive breaks down smaller and smaller as it's applied, even mixed together, the larger grit will do its thing and continue breaking down until the smaller grit is equal to whats left of the larger, and then the smaller breaks down along with it. Basically mixing them just saves the step of switching containers. ;)
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9:31 WOWEEE!!! I didn't not realize there was a super-model wood turner until finding this video/channel! subscribed right away.
awww... Thank you so much! 🤗🤗
Hi Kim. I have used diatomaceous earth for making paste according to your formula in the past. It works great and we also use it to prepare minerals for our goats. What advantage have yo found in using pumice over diatomaceous earth? Thanks.
I haven't noticed much of a difference in my application.
Great info! Thank you for sharing your mixtures
You are welcome 😊
Excellent, thank you for sharing your formulas.
Thank you so much for watching 🤗🤗
I found this useful and informative. GOOD JOB!
Thank you so much 🤗 I appreciate that!
Thank you for the bit of knowledge. Keep on keepin on!
Thank you!!
Thanks Kim, great info. I love watching your videos.
Hey Kim! Hope u didn’t get soaked by this last hurricane like we did! Our northern beaches got hit pretty hard...so did NC....now I guess NY is getting it! Love watching u and learning!
Nice video Kim. I will be trying your recipe soon!
Thank you so much, Zombie 🤗🤗
Thank you very much Kim, I was going to make some up and was unsure of the different quantities but you did the work for me. Love your videos and how helpful you are. Well done
Thank you so much for watching 🤗🤗
@@KimTippin I always watch yours, Doug's and Nick Zammeti's video's. Your's are always so informative, Nick is so funny and Doug is like a king of resin. I turned a bowl today of Spalted Tamarind and while finish scraping the bottom I didn't check my depth enough and cut thru and had to pour a resin plug with totalboat, some orange and red liquid dye and some bronze powder it's drying so I can finish it tomorrow. So you all have help me being creative. In the past I would have tried to glue a wood plug but I'm happier with the resin. Once again thank you for all your help.
Thank is awesome! What a blessing it is to know we are helpful! Thank you so much 🤗 God bless 🙏
thank you from Kansas!
Thank you too!
Thank you for your clean and informative videos. I just use Howard’s Feed-n-Wax (beeswax and orange oil) and add Diatomaceous Earth or pumice. A quick stir makes a paste.
Great tip!
Another great video. One thought. Maybe I'm not thinking about it right but if you mix the two different grits together, you're not going to get the benefit of the finer grit. If the more abrasive grit is in the mix, you're always going to have it causing scratches at its own level (minus however much that grit gets worn down in the process). But if you do them consecutively, then the finer grit will stand on its own and give a better finish.
Thank you. The pumice breaks down. I am not 100% but I do know it works for me 😁🤗
@@KimTippin Interesting, and good to know! Thanks!
Hello Kim, Just got to 7 min 17 s. You appear to be applying each grit directly to the 600 sanded surface. If so then perhaps build the pasting in the same way as refining the sanding. So the whole with coarse, then 2/3 with medium and the the final 1/3 finishing with fine. One wouldn't go from 80 grit to 600 because the remnants of the 80 grit scratches would be left behind.
Just a thought; just under 14 minutes to go. Regards, Glenn. :-)
even the commercial products only say to sand to somewhere between 200-300 before going to grit. it works by effectively going thru the remaining grits (in most commercial cases from 300-1000 grit) on its own as the grit breaks down and becomes smaller and smaller., so kim actually went above and beyond by sanding to 600 first.
Hi Kim, Hope yer good! Thanks for the info never made my own just bought, but me thinks I will start! TFS, GB :)
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Thanks for the polishing paste info. It looked like the 2F/3F mix looked best to me.
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Kim i always like to learn new things and differant ways to do things so i enjoyedd your video
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So Kim FYI. I made two different batches of my own paste. One was out of diotomatious earth and one using rotten stone. Both were made out of bees wax and mineral oil. I find that using the rotten stone paste is better for darker woods. It gives it more of a richness to the wood. the diotomatious is for all of my lighter woods. BTW Now I want to make my own tooth paste...thanks for the idea. Be blessed...Blair
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Kim, thank you so much for this awesome video! This is a whole new exciting world and you have a natural way of explaining things. I love the thought of experimenting with different chemicals and making new products that get you results. I probably enjoy this so much because I have a background in water treatment and used chemistry for 18 years of my career. We get used to only hear your voice over and seeing your hands while you work, so it was very nice to see your face and see your facial expressions! You have an amazing personality and this video show cases this! This was an awesome experiment and I appreciate the time that you took to do this! I have watched it 3 times now and have taken notes. Thanks for sharing so much of your knowledge with us and I love your "chit chat"!! You are incredibly inspiring and enjoy your videos very much! Please stay well and your whole family be well! Heard Covid is bad in FL. It has been on the increase in IN just in time for school to start. Thanks for sharing where you do your bargain shopping too! God Bless you and your family!
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Thank you for info most useful, and it's nice to put a face to the video's brilliant be safe X
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I'm from Romania and I follow your TH-cam channel with great pleasure and interest, I bought Vulcano powder in a box of 250 grams, so it's volcanic rock powder, brown powder.
As far as I know, volcanic rock is very hard, now I ask you, would it be good for abrasive paste?
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I am not sure about the volcanic rock. It would be something I would definitely try. Make a small batch and use it on a hard and soft wood. The result would be interesting regardless. Let us know what you come up with if you trst it out!
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good info kim have you thought about using carnauba wax with your bees wax . if im not mistaken and i could be that is what helps stop finger prints .
These pastes aren't meant to be used as finishes. You apply them to the work, rub them completely off (a paper towel comes away clean), then apply your finish. The mineral oil / beeswax mix simply serves as a carrier for the abrasive, to keep it in suspension in an easily applied paste. Carnauba wax would serve no real purpose for this.
@@roamingchemist2514 true your right david . how ever after you get a nice lacquer finish on a high end piece you go over the last coat with the sanding paste and the finishing paste and it just pops . plus the carnauba wax hardens and resists finger prints . like putting perfume on a pretty girl . you know what i mean .
@@diydarkmatter Sure, but you still rub the pastes off. My guess is that it is called "finishing" paste because it is meant to do double-duty - soft waxes and mineral oil to carry the abrasive (probably DE) with an added harder wax like carnauba which remains behind. I actually do this in two steps - use the DE abrasive polish first, rub it off, then follow up with Johnson's paste wax which contains carnauba.
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Hello Kim, first thanks for sharing. As I watched to paste being applied it appeared to me that the 50/50 out performed the others and I agree with you that would be my choice also. I have a question though: it appeared that you were looking at something to your left and the camera was on your right and the image of the packages was backwards, were you using a mirror? Keep on smiling.
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I was looking to my right because my dog was loudly running through the house and I was also watching lighting strike through the window. A big storm was coming and got very loud. I was trying to finish before the rain came and knocked the power out. I didn't use a mirror, I just didn't notice that the video recorded backwards.
love the abrasive paste idea. and thanks for the video on it. learned heap's
That's been really interesting and helpful. Thanks for the videos Kim.
Great video Kim, Very informative ! if we could only control the bee's LOL
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Thanks Kim. This was much easier process than your blender method. I’m ready to make my dyi now.
Hi Kim, rottenstone and pumice are what french polishers use. How about I contact an optical polishers suppliers and ask about some polishing rouge in various grits/grades. They're used for glass lenses n prisms and similar optical materials. You have got me thinking now. Thank's for your input. Regards, John.
Let us know how that woks
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More great info Kim. P.S. The last time I used the animal grade mineral oil from TS., after eatng too much cheese,.......the neighbor found me grazing in my yard.
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Great video Kim...
Thank you for sharing all this, it's Very helpful 🙂
You're so welcome!
I don't usually make many comments because I sometimes find it hard to put thought into words, but I will try here.
The difference between 2F and 3F ( I use EEE Tripoli) can be rationalized in terms of sand paper... the finer 3F would be used after 2F same as going from 100 grit paper to 240 grit then 300,400 600...etc. try doing a test of the 2F followed by the 3F, and you will fine the finish to be more clear and "shinier". By mixing the 2 grits your basically defeating the finer grit, by sanding it back off with the courser grit.
On sandpaper, as the grits wear off, you will get a finer finish as it wears out, because the sand on paper becomes finer grains as it wears out; the same works with the Tripoli/pumice .
If this makes any sense.
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Just a quick suggestion to add to your repertoire of admirable ideas.
I noticed when you were trying to clean the paste from the grooves you were having a hard time. For places like that I use an old (re-use/recycle) soft toothbrush. The toothbrush can also be used to reapply that paste to the piece you're buffing. Also, besides the free part, they aren't hard to clean and don't give you splinters.
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Using a 50/50 mix may be a good idea ,but is it worth skipping a step ? Wouldn't it be just as "dull"a sheen and not at the desired polished level that one was expecting / hoping for? Could it effect your final finish OR is that a final finish? Love Ya
For ME yes. For you, do what you think is best.
Like I said in the video, for MY mix, I am using both.
I am simply putting info out there, you do with it what you want. Thanks 😊
In this video you listed DE and BLO, what is BLO?
Thank you
BLO = Boiled Linseed Oil
DA = Denatured Alcohol
Very helpful thank you for sharing.
Kim, just a thought. I’ve been making my own abrasive paste and finishing creams for a long while, I went to Goodwill paid $8.00 for a nice little crockpot. I do all mine in it, no worries about stoves, flames etc. I also sell mine products, mostly to other turners in the area with a donation to our turning club. But will ship to other turners too.
Cortland Hunt agreed. I bought a small crockpot from a thrift store for 5$ and it works very well for abrasive paste or bowl butter.
Great tip!
Thanks for the great info and video Kim! I use the same mix but use demetrified earth but have been considering adding some BLO to penetrate and see if it makes a difference?!
Greg
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Abrasive paste is not a finish. But interesting idea. let me know how it works 🤗
Great information. Thank you
I make a similar paste. I actually use parifin also in my mixture as this is my finish as well and I get a better gloss.
I found some black pumice that give a real interesting finish on open grain wood.
Ok Kim, first of all, awesome video! You have been a TREMENDOUS help with your shared information. I am curious though about your thoughts about the DF powder. If you feel there wasn't any visual difference, then is there a reason why you don't continue to just use the DF powder? Or is it just a simple thing of changing things up for your method?
I still use DE powder. I just wanted to show other was and products that can be used. I have batches made of DE and pumice. I didn't compare them. That is something you would have to experiment with to suit you. :)
@@KimTippin Ok, yeah I was just curious if there was any other points of interest and yeah I mis abbreviated that DE powder....hey...maybe a combo of DE and FF......🤔
I have a batch with all 3 lol. I like to go for it. haha Dump it all in. 😁
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Great info, kiddo! Nothing wrong with experimentation. So many options and ingredients to choose from.
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Hi Kim, I love your videos. I was wondering if you had tried Tripoli (EEE), or diatomaceous earth as an abrasive in your beeswax/mineral oil medium? I use it, and I believe it closely resembles Acks Abrasive paste. I haven't used pumice though, so I can't offer a comparison. A major source of Diatomacious Earth is near Tripoli (Libya) hence the name. DE is available at hardware stores as a pest control agent.
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Kim, Could you substitute white candle wax for the bees wax?
I don't know. Never used candle wax.
Excellente vidéo, thank you Kim. Lionel de French.
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So have you stopped using the diatomaceous earth then? Also, have you tested the pumice on wood, I found that it stained my turnings.
I have several batches of different abrasives. I made them to see if there is a big difference in them. So far, I haven't noticed a difference. Time will tell.
I used the pumice in light maple and didn't notice stains.
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Thanks a lot for sharing! Im from Brazil. I m studying many components to use with wood...
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Thanks Kim I will make some, going to use it on pens also love your channel love your turnings. Take care stay safe god bless
Wow that was a great and helpful video! Do you have a video on Frenchies and how to apply? Thanks for the info
Maybe I missed it somewhere. Also I'm newer to wood turning. Are these pastes able to be used on wood as well ?
Yes.
The reason I used them on clear resin is so you could see how well each worked better than you could on wood.
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Thanks Kim, have you ever thought about marketing your paste?
All of these abrasives are friable - easily crumbled. As they get worked into the wood or plastic, they'll break down into finer and finer particles. So it probably doesn't make much difference which grade you start with (so long as it is the same material, with the same hardness), it will disintegrate as you polish. Pumice is hard, made from glassy volcanic rock, whereas rottenstone / tripoli / diatomaceous earth are all basically limestone, which is softer. I personally sand wood to 600 grit using Mirka meshes, then use two homemade pastes, same recipe as Kim's, first applying a 4F pumice paste, rubbing until a paper towel is clean, then a diatomaceous earth paste, again rubbing until the paper towel is clean. On close-grained woods, this will produce close to a mirror finish.
Thank you for sharing your application. I have a mis made of separate grits and then of 2 together and then a mix will DE and 2 pumice. I am still trying to see if there is a noticeable difference. not do much...yet. lol
I randomly switch between them depending on what I am working on. Guess as long as it look great when finished, dosen't matter. lol
@@KimTippin My guess that you won't see much difference between the pumice / DE mix and the pumice alone. Since pumice is harder than DE, the DE will degrade quickly when rubbing leaving you with basically pumice abrasive. One thing I found through trial and error is I need to apply sanding sealer before using the abrasive pastes, both to avoid discoloring the wood with the wax / mineral oil and clogging the pores on open-grained wood or end-grain.