I have her and don't really get the hype. I had Cantabile before I got Ines and she is a better DP generator agent and does more damage as a 5 star. Ines just has the bind and stealth removal which isn't super exciting. Her s2 is cute, but very short duration.
yup, she is top 1 if we dont count the limited, reed also need to be higher. i think, kalsit, GG, zuo le and typhon does not belong on top 10. ill probably replace them with ascalon, suzuran, saleach, bagpipe, quibao, saria and silverdaddy.
@@tylerross3847 she bind 100%, slow enemy, review invis, make as much dp as myrtle, dps, take enemy atk and atk speed, hit diagonal, hit drone, gain invisibility to survive better, leave a thing that have the same passive, fast redeploy all at the same time. If its not good enough yet she have insane small skill down time and can dps mid range to some elite enemy as a semi laneholder. Also 3 block range mean she kinda laneholding 2 lane at the same time. WHILE DOING EVERYTHING I LIST AT THE SAME TIME.
My personal top 10 operators inculding limited : ( its my personal opinion, I prioritise versatility of OP and there impact on the game , also i tried to include every class on this list) 1) Wis'adel ( do i have to explain?) 2) Texas alter and Yato alter ( i group them together , they are no doubt the strongest after wis'adel for they versatility and because they are the panic button when needed because of there insane damage with low redeployement time) 3) Logos ( Almost every Caster class at once , every skill is usefull, S1 provide Afk skill with insta kill , S2 Boss Killer and S3 Burst damage in a wave while also providing the ability to slow projectile and nullify them) 4) Ines ( She does too much : Good damage , Invisibility , Reveal Inivisible and slow ennemy in range and leave a mark when retreated , Bind every ennemy she touch for the first time, Good amount of DP , insant S2 charged with Bagpipe Talent, Steal ATK and ASPD , low redeployement time , S3 can usefull sometimes when needing DP while quick when there is a lot of ennemy on the field or when you can't put operator on the ground ) ( last CC for exemple) 5) Lapptop ( She just got release but she proves she is worth on of the best opertor , maybe I put her too high but anyway , Talent 1 that allow her to get 3 buff, Talent 2 that make her gain DP with all Siracusa member, S2 good crown Control skill with good damage with low SP cost and inflinct Fear with +4 drones so 6 drones when Talent 1 charged at Max , S1 Still good for newbies with Global range, S3 insane damage, inflinct Fear , crowd control , She can easily destroy an entire map and she is probably the best Caster to put at early game or just to get in IS mode because of her almost instant utilisation of her skill , oh and let's not forget she can apply silence like her original version she is the queen of silence ) 6) Virtuosa ( Great versatility , infilincting necrosis damage that is getting more and more OP with time and automatically slow ennemy in range , She can inflnct a good amount of damage while buffing other Op with S3 , S1 great AFK skill especially with her new module , S2 is the Worst one but i'm pretty sure Combined with Lapptop S3 it can be a Op combo) 7) Shu ( The better Saria , S1 great AFK skill , S3 her best skill that have the unique ability to teleport ennemy withing range that can break some mechanism, like putting back boss that TP on the map or Just stalling every ennemy for few seconde , and also her S3 is one of the best if not the best Skill to heal operator quickly and unlike Saria she can still Attack while doing it, her talent are very good giving bugg depending on ennemy class on the field and her other talent that give sancturary and regeneration) 8) Ulpanius ( Invicible combined with Gladiaa and still strong without her , being a Crusher with th ebenefit of getting healed every hit and having regeneration and damage reduction with gladiia talent , can be more buffed with otherAbyssal Hunter members , he is tanky , inflinct a good amount of damage and he is versatile, S2 Strong AFK skill and S3 can Make him change his place while giving a stun on ennemy , anyway very strong 9) Mlynar/ Degenbrecher ( Good amont of DPS , while one is having Dps for a long time , being tanky ,inflinct True damage, has a taunt but cannot block while using is skill the other does a lot of damage , low DP cost , Invicible during skill activation and ignore some target DEF and can give frighten debuff that make ennemy unable to attack when blocked , Both of them are OP in there way so i put them together ) 10) Reed alter ( Best Healer in the game , she is a caster/healer that can inflinct a good amount of Arts damages while giving heal to allies, her S2 can make 2 operator invincible ( unless they get one shot) while giving a lof amount of damage to them , S3 is a wave cleaner ( the best one) that can be really usefull sometimes , talent giving Arts fragility and debuff attack and every attack heal herself too so she can heal 2 op at the same times) honorable mentions : - Surtr - Ray/Typhon - Chalter - Suzumom - Nymph - Ling - Lin - GG - Mudrock/penance - Ascalon - eyjaberry
No Zuo le/ Ex alter in Honarable mentions is crazy, they are closing to top 10 only behind Degen/Mlynar. Ngl, Ulpan is OP when use with AH which doesnt deserve in top 10 at all, Replace him with Eyjaberry then you get a good list.
Let me try cook this list... No limted character All character are at their max, not newbie account, their usage in daily and Hard content, meta, EN server and counting their power as single unit( No AH buff BS etc.) 1.Logos 2.Ines 3.Degen/Mlynar 4.Reed alter 5.Surtr 6.Zuo le/ Ex alter 7. Ascalon 8. Goldenglow 9. Ray/Typhon 10. Mudrock/penace HM: Pozy Bagpipe Horn Sliverash/ Qiubal/ thorn with their Mod. Gnosis/ Suzuran Kalsit
I agree with this list so much more. I just don't get why Reed alter is so good but oh well, I've only used her in IS once. She felt useless but that's bc I already had Logos destroying enemies before she could and idk how to use her properly lol!
@redfoxakame She is not OP but she is pretty staple unit that you can bring her to most of the content unlike some character that good in certain map. Soild healer, good debuff, good art dmg, aoe mod clearing and low DP cost.
My top non limited for new players 1. Mlynar (Brother I don't need to explain horseman, cheap DP easy to deploy early, clutch taunt, and deals massive amounts of damage , can't wait to get his module, if they actually add it) 2. ines (Too versatile, low-key would like to put ines at one, but this for new players ig) 3. Logos (Too much value, high damage+ Afk skill + single target skill + AOE skill, + necrosis module) 4. Typhoon (again too much value, AFK skill + boss killing) 5. Surtur. (Yes , yes I put surtur higher than degen, yes surtur is replaceable if you have t3xas,yato , but if a new player gets a random surtur, you suddenly are open to a powerful heli drop) 6. Degen 7-8, , kal'sit/reed 9. Goldenglow 10. Mudrock/penance (Zu lee? Who? Bro if you're knew just get mountain for lane holder LOL)
For whoever do not read the intro, this video do not include Limited, and Kernel headhunting operators. IMO, i could agree with the tier list. Just in the place of Zuo Le, i would insert a shifter operator into this. And probably a CC operator, also tank operator. Not because they're powerful or anything, but when you need them (as a newbie, you'll miss their utility). So i would insert something like Ray or Quibai. -Ray S1 is a shifter, binder, and she's also a powerful unit with S3. -Quibai, is binder-slower operator. Has synergy with Logos. S1 is the binder skill, S3 slower and her DPS skill. They both like a dual purpose operator. I mean either Ray or Quibai in that spot. Not sure if Weedy is on the kernel banner? I think yes? She's kinda old. Otherwise she's the pusher queen. One thing about Weedy, outside the pushing bussiness, you probably will use better operator. Different with Ray, you can just swap her skill, no need to change the operator. Honorable mention : -Jessica alter. She requires her mod, and she's a great unit as invis revealer. Respectable DPS, block 6 with her shield, can hit air, and can change facing direction. She is a defender also, so her DEF isn't half bad. -Lin. A caster than can tank, and unlike Carnelian, she can permanently active with her s1. Or be a better tank + better burst DPS with S3. She also has a true AOE damage and a large AOE size. Means no matter how many the enemy are, she will hit them all.
Two things mentioned highlighting skills that's most used, Ray's S1 is never used and a terrible investment and it requires a lot of things going for it. Second this list is more of an individual and while Quibai can have a high impact she only starts to shine when paired with other binders making her not that great.
@@javierrivera5834 Understand the context of the video first. If you're a newbie, and picking a new character, which one you choose? If you picked Ray, i would recommend S1. Why you need to invest other operator, where Ray could be laying around at e2 ? Which could means lower level. Low survivability. Sorry if you said Quibai is not great, they i suggest you to watch DragonGJY's Logos video. Nowadays, it is easier to get CC effects than it used to be. Mizuki, Logos, Ines, GG, Wisadel, i name a few. Quibai is underrated.
not putting Executor alter on this list is a crime imo 😭😭😭 he has great laneholding capabilities and high dmg w/ def ignore(module) on his S3 which makes him able to handle tougher enemies better than most laneholders
@@elkindangen152 they are in the same level my man, but... Ex alter is good in daily to some harder content, harder than that he just die before getting the big DMG. Unlike Zuo le that seem use in such high diffculty such as stalling Risk high lastest CC, Solo most of hard stage. I agree that Ex has great laneholding but he also easily die by ranged enemy, DOT, elemental/enviroment dmg etc. Zuo le can use S2,gaining massive barrier and still doing fine.( 5s cycle is enough for taking chip dmg Additon, Ex doesnt have any CC in his kit, he easily get swarmed and outdamaged his healing, unlike Zuo le S3 that has stuned, longer ranges, 7s cycle with no Sp lock and barrier enough to surive for next Skill.
honestly my top 10 operator not including limited are 1/ logos (busted) 2/ ines (she does everything) 3/ mlynar (big damage) 4/ degenbrecher (big damage) 5/ surtr (same reason but arts) 6/ typhon (low investment high rewards, and also busted boss killing capabilites) 7/ mountain (low investment high rewards, good for newbies) 8/ reed alter (heals by dealing damage. For newbies, operators with multiple capabilites is very valuable. However, not consistent healing when no enemies are around) 9/ kaltsit (powerful lane holding capabilities. However, high investment and not a very reliable healer) 10/ executor alter (better than zuole in my opinion, he blocks more and also provides shock load of damage. very high investment however, but good rewards)
Moutain glazing is crazy, while he is newbie friendly, easy to use. He doesnt stand a chace in hard content unlike other land holder. Zuo le and Ex alter are the same tier, Ex weakness is enviroment dmg, dot etc can kill him during downtime unlike Zuo le that can Use S2 to sustain barrier and doesnt need much set up like EX.
My friend you miss the monster name Wis'adel. How can Logos is top 1 when she is no where in your list. It will rumble every characters in your ranking list
@@p1eswag910the point of Mountain is that he costs less than most vanguards and is easy af to use, you just press a button and then forget he exists, he obviously can't reach exec/zuo levels of power but his value is how much he does relative to his low cost and how easy he is to use.
Kind of a surprise Horn didn't make the list with how ridiculously strong and versatile she is. I would replace Ray on the list with Horn. While I do like Ray a lot and use her often as my go-to boss killer, she has been collecting dust now because you don't really need that many boss killer in the team and high def bosses tend to be weak to Art damage anyway. That ammo weakness of her archetype really is annoying even with her S3 and since the module is mentioned, it will be fair to mention Logos since the module comes after he does. Logos is one of the reason I don't even use Ray much since I get waveclear + boss killer at the same time with his S3 and if they have weak def, other Phy damager will do the job anyway. She's being pushed into "replaceable" category for me as a DPS unit especially if you have Ela or Typhon. Ela+Logos really making it hard for me to justify a slot for Ray even in IS mode. Horn though is the one char I always end up putting back into my team when the stage feels annoying. She is one of the best at the one thing that destroy most TD genre as a whole, spawn killing, on a tank-dps hybrid who is already one of the best at it so you aren't giving up anything to have her in the team. HG keep designing stages to avoid spawn killing through placement design, restricted zone with CM and even Stealth but Horn manage to overcome all of them while shooting from a distance. Just aim her toward the most heated area of the map or just put her attack range right on top of the red box and it will work 99% of the time and HG is really struggling to do anything about this lol.
@@CapucineNighly For the later chapter, maybe but for the early chapters, she's pretty much on the easier side while being extra rewarding. Instead of a just a defender in a lane, you have a defender who is more than durable enough for most bosses with very early access to a good AFK skill and also a good AoE clear option for doggo rush with her S2. Most new players love to ball up anyway in front of their own blue box so having a character who can prevent leak, AoE clear and hurt bosses in a single investment is pretty good especially when we consider that Horn is also a good AFK clear char for Ahni as well.
Pretty good list, I think all of them have an argument for being top 10. The 2 I would probably question the most are Zuo Le and Kal'tsit just due to their limitations/drawbacks. Kal'tsit falls off pretty quickly in optional challenge content though her upcoming module will help with that significantly in IS at least. The fact that it literally gives +50% to Mon3tr's stats though in addition to letting her heal 2 targets should say all you need to say about why I would counter her being in the top 10. Zuo Le has sort of the opposite issue of Kal'tsit in that he has a sweet spot in difficult but not overly difficult content. In farming content he can actually perform worse due to not keeping his HP low enough. In extreme difficulty content he might not be able to survive. So he can be good and in particular he's really strong for some specific extremely challenging fights which is very nice, but his sweet spot limits his general consistent usefulness. Again not saying definitively that either of these 2 shouldn't be top 10, I just feel like there's an argument to be made for other options. I'd probably drop 1 of them for Horn who has a lot of utility and is useful at every tier of content. I would also probably move Ines up and Surtr down. I feel like Ines utility is not weighted heavily enough in this list. Surtr's long cycle time puts her behind a lot of others IMO. There are times when you need Surtr's damage but the others are going to be more consistently useful while Surtr is going to come in for specific enemies. Ascalon and Logos will for sure bump some people, Ulpianus has the potential to do so as well but those are for another video.
@@ian59 Agree with Kal'tsit takes, she fall off hard but still good unit tho. Horn/ Ascalon can replace her spot and Ulpian, without AH team, he is just fancy Hoederer.
Surtr and Ines should switch place, same with Ray and Typhon. I would say Ray is the best non-limited or even the best sniper behind Wisadel, her bind and big dph allowed you to bypass ton of annoying mechanics, she scale well in IS even with out a Hand relic for her archetype.
can you also include other 6* operator from recruitment to the list? i think even though some of them are also included in Kernel but i think sooner or later as long as you play the game we can have chance to get them. I would recommend Nightingale over Kalsit if recruitment was included, she has a niche to completely turn bosses who deal art damage attacks like a baby.
That's actually the most important tbh. You able to complete the stage. How you complete it with the team you got, even if not everone on your team is meta, but you like their kit. Or your luck is trash and you're making do with what you got. I mean I always run my husbando only team for all the stages, if I can(not forced storywise to use a certain char).
Ascalon is really good because you can drop her near the enemy spawn they get debuffed and you can more easily clear stuff like the kill 400 stage with ascalon slow and typhon skill 2 along with other operators like Suzuran's skill 3 and Saria skill 3 Kal'tsit can hold a lane by herself with monster and Degenbracher is the NUKE EVERYTHING AROUND
I honestly think you should make a separate list for normal content and hard content tbh. The likes of Zuo Le and Goldenglow (and tbh even Cowshit) are completely unviable in hard content imho they are what I would call: "noob OP". The best picks in IS4/Extreme CC and extremely difficult CM maps are Nightingale (obv), Jessica Alter (very versatile) and Lumen (clears CCs) oh and obv Logos because he oneshots huge waves. I get that Zuo Le is one of your favorite OPs but yeah he is really bad and doesn't justify his spot tbh, especially when Executor Alter who is a better version of him didn't make it.
Not include limited. And combine those who are on par with similar role. Mine are : 1. Logos 2. Degenbrecher/Młynar 3. Ines 4. Typhon/Ray 5. Surtr 6. Kal'tsit 7. Reed alter 8. Ascalon 9. Goldenglow 10. Penance/Mudrock
Imo as of 5th Anniversary: With Limited OPs; 1) W'isadel (LIMITED) 2) Texas the Omertosa (LIMITED) 3) Młynar 4) Logos 5) Degenbrecher 6) Ines 7) Shu (LIMITED) 8) Ling (LIMITED) 9) Virtuosa (LIMITED) 10) Surtr Without Limited OPs; 1) Młynar 2) Surtr 3) Logos 4) Degenbrecher 5) Typhon 6) Ines 7) Penance 8) Saria 9) Bagpipe 10) Executor the Ex Foedere Edit: Adjusted some because I realised there's a lot of role overlap, that's why Typhon is not on the 1st list but is very high on 2nd, the 2nd list assumes Limited Operators don't exist.
Id argue instead of bagpipe you can put GG in there (until lap alter comes out) bagpipe is nice to have but idk if she is top 10 anymore. Also not having mudrock or penance in the top 10 is weird. Maybe top 10 is too hard in ak I think. But this video doesnt make any sense at all.
Typhon should be Ray. Wisadel took both of Typhon's role too much. And Ray does overtake Typhon in value. Typhon is better at dealing damage but that's it, everything else Ray is better
The list in the video: 10. Kaltsit 9. Reed Alter 8. Goldenglow 7. Ray 6. Ines 5. Zuo Le 4. Degenbrecher Honorable mentions: Logos, Ascalon, Lin, Ebenholz, Executor Alter 3. Typhon 2. Surtr 1. Mlynar
Damn, you're butchering those names!) I mostly agree with the list. The places would have shifted if it was about IS. The shortstack sarkaz sniper with her adorable Swedish accent is my go-to operator for Annihilations and events. Mlynar is as solid as Typhon but harder to use. Honestly, I would have put Degen higher than Surtr just because of how reliable she is. Also, there are quite a few ways of increasing SP recovery, and the GOAT lady benefits from it the most while Mlynar and Surtr don't.
My personal list without limited would be 1. Logos 2. Ines 3. Degen 4. Mlynar 5. Ascalon 6. Ray 7. Goldenglow 8. Reed alt 9. Kaltsit 10. Zuo le Logos & ines is no brainer. Degen has faster cycles than mlynar. Mlynar big pp dmg. Ascalon is queen of RA & basically what all u can ask for slower ops. Ray's reload isnt affected by aspd debuff & her cc is valuable on hard content, while having the best range for sniper. Goldenglow for content that buff ops & also great for blind run a stage. Reed alt top caster while also being the best medic. Kal's is the best non limited summoner while having niche of ignoring boss's bs mechanic. Zuo le is the only enmity that can scale to hard content due to his fast cycle skill honorable mention Typhon: great total dmg & lock on mechanic. But her dps is bad & horrivle skill cycle Penance: good for stages with many trash mob but she need to snowball, which is a hard thing to do on hard content Lin: alternative to eyja's s3, but safer Exalt: good for daily & h- stages, but not that good on IS difficulty 15 Suzuran: staple for hard content
I'm a Veteran husbando collector in Arknights and have a strong bias towards the male operators(no matter the rarity). Especially after Logos finally got released. Well with that said, it's how you use the operators tbh. If newbie Doktahs can't decide. Can't go wrong getting Logos in standard banner. All his skills are useful, even at E0. He's a must M9 for sure.
I'd put Ines higher but pretty good list overall, especially the high ones. Not sure if I agree with Kalshit but I get it. Imo, Zuo Le has been more helpful to me than Surtr so personally, I'd put him higher than her. Horn should've been in the list as well. Honorable mention for me is Thorns but that's bc he is my husbando and he's the one who carried my entire acc. He's even better now with his module. And now that Logos is out, bro is THE BEST non-limited 6 star in the game. Hands down, no question.
ines is the best one, ines is top 2 of the WHOLE GAME, typhon is NOT better than ray and ABSOLUTELY not better than ines. also you made this before logos right?
@@5chneemensch138endgame player just put ines in the squad and done with the dp and other thing lmao. Flag pipe cant do shit like slow, binding,... 🤡 even hard content Ines still carry. How tf is she at 6 ???
this guy (and a lot of people in comments) does NOT know anything about harder arknights content like a15 IS clears or even the recent chapters H stages. They judge operator's strenght based on some normal stages that is why Zuo Le is here since he is pretty good until you realise he is not outside of the most trivial content.
5* are rarely bad. You seem to have gotten brainrot from bad people. Don't worry, it's curable. And yes, his list mostly holds up, with the only special addition being Harold, who is outclassed once Mul/Honey get pots. Quercus is is the n1, no contest, however. 3rd best healer in the game, occasionally even best healer due to positive sanctuary.
For me it will be : 1) Logos : he can technically one shot the boss of Arturia's event (I will NOT call her Virtuosa) and he has 3 amazing skills even though the mains skills are the first and the third 2) Reed alter for her role as a "phone breaker" * 2.5) I forgot Ines, as the most versatile operator 3) Ceobe and Ebenholz for hard content 4) Nightingale, Lumen (& Eiyaberry) annulation of mechanics and Silence Alter for the immortality window 5) Weedy, Gladiia, Angelina (and Phantom & Ebenholz) for the Crownslayer bully team 6) Kal'tsit & (not) Theresa just because 7) Pozëmka, Dorothy & Swire Alter as support damage with the pseudo-fast-redeploy typewriter and the mines
I get where you were coming from with the intro, but I feel like you restricted yourself too much with this. No limited plus no Kernal is removing a lot of the pool especially when as long as they aren’t a collab unit limited ops get reruns. Ines at number 6 is also just wild in my opinion.
tbh mountain is my number 1 pick for newbie player since it eases out many stages and I use mountain everytime I do blind runs even as a veteran player
At least I kind of agree with this tier list, but whoever the player is who does waifu over meta, and does nicheknights, there's nothing I can do but respect them lmao 🤣
I disagree with 5. Zuo Le is pretty strong. Very strong, but he has issue - no heal. And that's a BIG problem. You cannot put him in stages where enemies deal elemental damage because he cannot recover it neither be healed by Wandering Medics. And also ranged enemies are nemesis to him, because of again, no heal. So, yeah, he is cool, but only for special occasions. I would not put him here. And why here is no Defenders... Shu, who is actually broken, Why here is no Ling, who can substitute a whole army. (Her dragons are the best Art damagers after Surtr(but you can put 5 dragons, while Surtr is always one.)
Wanering medic cant heal... My man forget that Eyja berry exist. Oh dont forget Shu rice tiles, skadi aura heal or just put stainless turrent to have him basic attack. And plus, Use you can just use S2 which gain him Barrier around 5K that also stack with Santuarcy buff.
And you also mentions Shu/Ling , so you dont read and watch intro at all, this video is only non limted character. ( if you mean Saria instead of Shu, that kinda work)
Ines at 6 🤡 She clear flag pipe, Ines doesn't need to be deploy but better than 99% van. We Don't need to care what the content hg cook but Ines is always useful, she and Logos should be top 1 lmao
Well if logos was in here he wouldn't be top 3 He would be top-1, cause unlike the other top 2, this guy can actually do more than just do unga bunga arts and necrosis dmg, he can slow enemies, decrease arts res, instakill mobs, clear elite mobs and even kill at least a single phase of a boss within 1 skill cycle. Making him undoubtedly the best standard operator we have till date, even including the new cn ops, no one tops logo's value .
They prob making this long ago with the but then adding it with honorable mention stuff, keep forgot that logos is not limited with how strong he is. Tho him not being not limited nice since that make future join ops like banner that have story ops being better banner for me since i dont have inez as well
Logos s1 is just for the meme and isn’t as strong as people think. Its never enough to kill anything more than snails and dogs and has a long wind up time even at m3mod3 often time in IS the stage is over before his S1 is up. S3 is amazing if not for the long off skill so you need to fill in his cycle or find way to charge his s3 faster. I would still say he is the best damage dealler (he’s banned in some IS tournaments for a reason) and tie with Ines overall.
because all those that you mentioned are new gen powercreep units, Surtr has been relevant to the meta far longer than those units have even been released
I disagree, Ray should be higher than Typhon. With her module, Ray has more overall value and utility than Typhon, add that with Ray's crazy fast cycling. With her module, Ray can defeat Patriot phase 1 in 16 seconds while Typhon S3 takes nearly double that time. Ray can then recharge her skill which recharges naturally quick and deal with phase 2. Additionally, Ray's bind + flexible range that is even better than that of flingers and deadeyes is better than Typhon's pseudo-global range. Typhon also targets random enemies around her main target. The only two things Typhon has over Ray is "total damage and some simplicity (and her S2) even then, the time it takes for Typhon to finish 1 skill cycle, Ray has already had 2 cycles, and i dont know whats "simpler" than activating a skill every 20 seconds and placing her summon on the enemy you want to kill. "oh but she has her reload problem.." her module literally makes her attack interval equivalent to that of Typhon's. And mind you, her real attack interval is even faster than that, AND MIND YOU, the Hunters have the best DPH among the Sniper class so the only real problem here is her range.. oh and guess what her talent and her skill 3 does, expand her range into one of the best Sniper ranges if not the best non-global range in the game. She can even kill the enemies behind her for those enemies you missed, even binding them to make sure they cant get away.
i just so happen to have a clear recorded of Ray doing the bosskilling and clearing the plenty of enemies that Typhon S2 let through and also Ray having Typhon's back the entirety of her downtime before her skill could activate. Typhon's S2 may be afk but it's pretty inflexible (alleviated by her slow and stun, somewhat but she can still get overwhelmed rather easily since her ASPD is slow and having multiple enemies in her somewhat small range makes her dps go down pretty quick) and actually very limiting due to its nature. thats just how afk skills work in general. Typhon S2 works brilliantly in most stages but it requires someone to back her up and do the exact things Ray did for her (in my clear).
Surt at top 2 is wild. I feel like shes one of the most "replaceable" operators nowdays because so many ops can do a ton of dmg. Yes she has the immortality niche but it's surprising how rarely you actually need it.
Lol this tier list is really irrelevant. New players SHOULD NOT watch this bs. Kaltsit and Ray being top 10? HOW? Not to mention Modules were not included when determining who's better for now and for future content. Many operators become significantly better upon unlocking Modules.
Why is Ray in the top 10? Another Ray skipper ig? Maybe you don’t play some of the harder content like D15 IS4 with the triple or double endings/bosses or High risk(750+) CC. Maybe you still watch guide on how to clear stages and she is not used there so you assume she’s bad? Ray is the second best Sniper ops even in the CN server. Big DPH and Bind is extremely useful and she scale very well in IS even without a Hand relic. If anything Ray should be higher than Typhon in this list. Another plus for Ray is that most if not all IS tournaments ban Wisadel so Ray is the best sniper there.
@@lopickolol Ray has more value than Typhon, Zuo Le has the best 1v1 capabilities and can recover his life within like 8 seconds so as long as he doesnt die within 8 seconds he can basically go on for a very very very long time
@@galeria_m I can tell you never did some hard content like a15 IS clears or recent chapters H stages. Zuo Le can "go on for a very long time" until you do an actual harder stages than the most trivial content for newbies
And I did say as long as he doesn't die within the few seconds he needs to get his skill up, he can essentially revive himself. That's simply how he works. let's pick on your statements a bit more. "A very long time" of course, do you know how stalling works? yeah he functions like that in case you didn't know "the most trivial content for newbies" now that's just overexaggeration, you think CM-EX clears are for newbies? They ARE daily content but newbies, way far. or do i need to define the word "newbie" for you as well? "recent H stages" too, Zuo Le keeps up. have you really seen what Zuo Le can do?
????? what ???... ZUO LE ???? He is not even near the top 10, he legit may be in the top 10 WORST 6* released. I can easily tell you didn't do much hard content in arknights like a15 IS clears or H stages from recent chapters where Zuo le gets annihilated. The only good enmity operators are mudrock and penance
Top 10 means the best in the game, with your logic Weedy or Silence alter should've been top 3 on this list because no other operator can compete with them at what they do
@dagyoo you misinterpret my logic. Let's use yours then, can weedy solo clear waves and sustain at same time like how wisadel/texas? Yes both of them cant push like weedy but they both can offer more than that which puts them in top 10.
@dagyoo i dont know why you put zhou there when there is mudrock/penance. Zhou more of niche, upgraded version of general idk remember his name. Like come on,how come there is no texas alter there eveb tho he is more than a year old released character. Plus where is walter
@@alostperson2125 if you did watch the video, you would have realized that Dagyoo intentionall said that he didnt include any Limited operators because they would just overtake the list.
@@galeria_m it appears that you didn't understand the sarcasm that I made about "best operators". I just made a joke about wisadel that anyone knew all about, standing along with meta operators and yet some of you jumped in saying like I was stupid, not acknowledging about the video. Perhaps the term "I guess" was so hard to get it first time that anyone thought that i asked: "where is wisadel, why she's not in the list?"
Personally, I'd switch Zuo Le with Mudrock. Her Skill 2 for obvious Survivability and Lane Holding, combine that with Her Module to make here a veritable Juggernaught that can tank most bosses for a good while.
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People please watch the intro it gives context to the whole video
literally half the comment section is just bozos whining about how the video does not include their favourite wisadel, ling, texalter, and yato alter
poor dagyo
You can change the title to Top 10 Non Limited 6 stars
EN cant watch is real
Now that Logos is released we can safely say hes the best 6 star operator in the game not including limited and kernel banner operators.
I understand that the video was probably made before logos was released
He also forgot mention Wis'adel. She should be on of the best 6 star Io
@@1HistoryDragonhe said no limited. W is already limited and her alter is a limited limited.
@@1HistoryDragonit literally says no limited like 5 seconds in
logos is def NOT the best OP in this game 🤣🤣 just for the fact that Wisadel outdamages him by almost double the amount 🤣🤣
Bro we gotta update from "EN can't read" to "EN can't listen" Smh.....
Ines at 6 is crazy
was about to say she and logos are arguably the best non limited units period
Yeah, Ines should definitely be fighting with Logos for first place!
I have her and don't really get the hype. I had Cantabile before I got Ines and she is a better DP generator agent and does more damage as a 5 star. Ines just has the bind and stealth removal which isn't super exciting. Her s2 is cute, but very short duration.
yup, she is top 1 if we dont count the limited, reed also need to be higher. i think, kalsit, GG, zuo le and typhon does not belong on top 10. ill probably replace them with ascalon, suzuran, saleach, bagpipe, quibao, saria and silverdaddy.
@@tylerross3847 she bind 100%, slow enemy, review invis, make as much dp as myrtle, dps, take enemy atk and atk speed, hit diagonal, hit drone, gain invisibility to survive better, leave a thing that have the same passive, fast redeploy all at the same time. If its not good enough yet she have insane small skill down time and can dps mid range to some elite enemy as a semi laneholder. Also 3 block range mean she kinda laneholding 2 lane at the same time. WHILE DOING EVERYTHING I LIST AT THE SAME TIME.
My personal top 10 operators inculding limited : ( its my personal opinion, I prioritise versatility of OP and there impact on the game , also i tried to include every class on this list)
1) Wis'adel ( do i have to explain?)
2) Texas alter and Yato alter ( i group them together , they are no doubt the strongest after wis'adel for they versatility and because they are the panic button when needed because of there insane damage with low redeployement time)
3) Logos ( Almost every Caster class at once , every skill is usefull, S1 provide Afk skill with insta kill , S2 Boss Killer and S3 Burst damage in a wave while also providing the ability to slow projectile and nullify them)
4) Ines ( She does too much : Good damage , Invisibility , Reveal Inivisible and slow ennemy in range and leave a mark when retreated , Bind every ennemy she touch for the first time, Good amount of DP , insant S2 charged with Bagpipe Talent, Steal ATK and ASPD , low redeployement time , S3 can usefull sometimes when needing DP while quick when there is a lot of ennemy on the field or when you can't put operator on the ground ) ( last CC for exemple)
5) Lapptop ( She just got release but she proves she is worth on of the best opertor , maybe I put her too high but anyway , Talent 1 that allow her to get 3 buff, Talent 2 that make her gain DP with all Siracusa member, S2 good crown Control skill with good damage with low SP cost and inflinct Fear with +4 drones so 6 drones when Talent 1 charged at Max , S1 Still good for newbies with Global range, S3 insane damage, inflinct Fear , crowd control , She can easily destroy an entire map and she is probably the best Caster to put at early game or just to get in IS mode because of her almost instant utilisation of her skill , oh and let's not forget she can apply silence like her original version she is the queen of silence )
6) Virtuosa ( Great versatility , infilincting necrosis damage that is getting more and more OP with time and automatically slow ennemy in range , She can inflnct a good amount of damage while buffing other Op with S3 , S1 great AFK skill especially with her new module , S2 is the Worst one but i'm pretty sure Combined with Lapptop S3 it can be a Op combo)
7) Shu ( The better Saria , S1 great AFK skill , S3 her best skill that have the unique ability to teleport ennemy withing range that can break some mechanism, like putting back boss that TP on the map or Just stalling every ennemy for few seconde , and also her S3 is one of the best if not the best Skill to heal operator quickly and unlike Saria she can still Attack while doing it, her talent are very good giving bugg depending on ennemy class on the field and her other talent that give sancturary and regeneration)
8) Ulpanius ( Invicible combined with Gladiaa and still strong without her , being a Crusher with th ebenefit of getting healed every hit and having regeneration and damage reduction with gladiia talent , can be more buffed with otherAbyssal Hunter members , he is tanky , inflinct a good amount of damage and he is versatile, S2 Strong AFK skill and S3 can Make him change his place while giving a stun on ennemy , anyway very strong
9) Mlynar/ Degenbrecher ( Good amont of DPS , while one is having Dps for a long time , being tanky ,inflinct True damage, has a taunt but cannot block while using is skill the other does a lot of damage , low DP cost , Invicible during skill activation and ignore some target DEF and can give frighten debuff that make ennemy unable to attack when blocked , Both of them are OP in there way so i put them together )
10) Reed alter ( Best Healer in the game , she is a caster/healer that can inflinct a good amount of Arts damages while giving heal to allies, her S2 can make 2 operator invincible ( unless they get one shot) while giving a lof amount of damage to them , S3 is a wave cleaner ( the best one) that can be really usefull sometimes , talent giving Arts fragility and debuff attack and every attack heal herself too so she can heal 2 op at the same times)
honorable mentions :
- Surtr
- Ray/Typhon
- Chalter
- Suzumom
- Nymph
- Ling
- Lin
- GG
- Mudrock/penance
- Ascalon
- eyjaberry
Yeah, really solid list
Putting Ray with Typhon ❤❤ thank you
i think eyjaberry deserve a spot in that list
@kendrickaudrey4755 same, i think eyjalter can have the same / with reedalter that mlynar and degen have
No Zuo le/ Ex alter in Honarable mentions is crazy,
they are closing to top 10 only behind Degen/Mlynar.
Ngl, Ulpan is OP when use with AH which doesnt deserve in top 10 at all, Replace him with Eyjaberry then you get a good list.
Let me try cook this list...
No limted character
All character are at their max, not newbie account, their usage in daily and Hard content, meta, EN server and counting their power as single unit( No AH buff BS etc.)
1.Logos
2.Ines
3.Degen/Mlynar
4.Reed alter
5.Surtr
6.Zuo le/ Ex alter
7. Ascalon
8. Goldenglow
9. Ray/Typhon
10. Mudrock/penace
HM:
Pozy
Bagpipe
Horn
Sliverash/ Qiubal/ thorn with their Mod.
Gnosis/ Suzuran
Kalsit
I agree with this list so much more. I just don't get why Reed alter is so good but oh well, I've only used her in IS once. She felt useless but that's bc I already had Logos destroying enemies before she could and idk how to use her properly lol!
@redfoxakame She is not OP but she is pretty staple unit that you can bring her to most of the content unlike some character that good in certain map.
Soild healer, good debuff, good art dmg, aoe mod clearing and low DP cost.
Someone cooked here
My top non limited for new players
1. Mlynar (Brother I don't need to explain horseman, cheap DP easy to deploy early, clutch taunt, and deals massive amounts of damage , can't wait to get his module, if they actually add it)
2. ines (Too versatile, low-key would like to put ines at one, but this for new players ig)
3. Logos (Too much value, high damage+ Afk skill + single target skill + AOE skill, + necrosis module)
4. Typhoon (again too much value, AFK skill + boss killing)
5. Surtur. (Yes , yes I put surtur higher than degen, yes surtur is replaceable if you have t3xas,yato , but if a new player gets a random surtur, you suddenly are open to a powerful heli drop)
6. Degen
7-8, , kal'sit/reed
9. Goldenglow
10. Mudrock/penance
(Zu lee? Who? Bro if you're knew just get mountain for lane holder LOL)
For whoever do not read the intro, this video do not include Limited, and Kernel headhunting operators.
IMO, i could agree with the tier list.
Just in the place of Zuo Le, i would insert a shifter operator into this. And probably a CC operator, also tank operator.
Not because they're powerful or anything, but when you need them (as a newbie, you'll miss their utility).
So i would insert something like Ray or Quibai.
-Ray S1 is a shifter, binder, and she's also a powerful unit with S3.
-Quibai, is binder-slower operator. Has synergy with Logos. S1 is the binder skill, S3 slower and her DPS skill.
They both like a dual purpose operator.
I mean either Ray or Quibai in that spot.
Not sure if Weedy is on the kernel banner? I think yes? She's kinda old. Otherwise she's the pusher queen.
One thing about Weedy, outside the pushing bussiness, you probably will use better operator.
Different with Ray, you can just swap her skill, no need to change the operator.
Honorable mention :
-Jessica alter. She requires her mod, and she's a great unit as invis revealer. Respectable DPS, block 6 with her shield, can hit air, and can change facing direction. She is a defender also, so her DEF isn't half bad.
-Lin. A caster than can tank, and unlike Carnelian, she can permanently active with her s1. Or be a better tank + better burst DPS with S3. She also has a true AOE damage and a large AOE size. Means no matter how many the enemy are, she will hit them all.
Two things mentioned highlighting skills that's most used, Ray's S1 is never used and a terrible investment and it requires a lot of things going for it. Second this list is more of an individual and while Quibai can have a high impact she only starts to shine when paired with other binders making her not that great.
@@javierrivera5834 Understand the context of the video first. If you're a newbie, and picking a new character, which one you choose?
If you picked Ray, i would recommend S1. Why you need to invest other operator, where Ray could be laying around at e2 ? Which could means lower level. Low survivability.
Sorry if you said Quibai is not great, they i suggest you to watch DragonGJY's Logos video.
Nowadays, it is easier to get CC effects than it used to be.
Mizuki, Logos, Ines, GG, Wisadel, i name a few.
Quibai is underrated.
Can I honourable mention Pozemka?
not putting Executor alter on this list is a crime imo 😭😭😭
he has great laneholding capabilities and high dmg w/ def ignore(module) on his S3 which makes him able to handle tougher enemies better than most laneholders
I chose him more than zuo le
@@elkindangen152 they are in the same level my man, but...
Ex alter is good in daily to some harder content, harder than that he just die before getting the big DMG.
Unlike Zuo le that seem use in such high diffculty such as stalling Risk high lastest CC, Solo most of hard stage.
I agree that Ex has great laneholding but he also easily die by ranged enemy, DOT, elemental/enviroment dmg etc.
Zuo le can use S2,gaining massive barrier and still doing fine.( 5s cycle is enough for taking chip dmg
Additon, Ex doesnt have any CC in his kit, he easily get swarmed and outdamaged his healing, unlike Zuo le S3 that has stuned, longer ranges, 7s cycle with no Sp lock and barrier enough to surive for next Skill.
honestly my top 10 operator not including limited are
1/ logos (busted)
2/ ines (she does everything)
3/ mlynar (big damage)
4/ degenbrecher (big damage)
5/ surtr (same reason but arts)
6/ typhon (low investment high rewards, and also busted boss killing capabilites)
7/ mountain (low investment high rewards, good for newbies)
8/ reed alter (heals by dealing damage. For newbies, operators with multiple capabilites is very valuable. However, not consistent healing when no enemies are around)
9/ kaltsit (powerful lane holding capabilities. However, high investment and not a very reliable healer)
10/ executor alter (better than zuole in my opinion, he blocks more and also provides shock load of damage. very high investment however, but good rewards)
Moutain glazing is crazy, while he is newbie friendly, easy to use.
He doesnt stand a chace in hard content unlike other land holder.
Zuo le and Ex alter are the same tier, Ex weakness is enviroment dmg, dot etc can kill him during downtime unlike Zuo le that can Use S2 to sustain barrier and doesnt need much set up like EX.
My friend you miss the monster name Wis'adel. How can Logos is top 1 when she is no where in your list. It will rumble every characters in your ranking list
@@1HistoryDragonhave you literally read the first sentence
@@p1eswag910the point of Mountain is that he costs less than most vanguards and is easy af to use, you just press a button and then forget he exists, he obviously can't reach exec/zuo levels of power but his value is how much he does relative to his low cost and how easy he is to use.
Kind of a surprise Horn didn't make the list with how ridiculously strong and versatile she is.
I would replace Ray on the list with Horn. While I do like Ray a lot and use her often as my go-to boss killer, she has been collecting dust now because you don't really need that many boss killer in the team and high def bosses tend to be weak to Art damage anyway. That ammo weakness of her archetype really is annoying even with her S3 and since the module is mentioned, it will be fair to mention Logos since the module comes after he does. Logos is one of the reason I don't even use Ray much since I get waveclear + boss killer at the same time with his S3 and if they have weak def, other Phy damager will do the job anyway. She's being pushed into "replaceable" category for me as a DPS unit especially if you have Ela or Typhon. Ela+Logos really making it hard for me to justify a slot for Ray even in IS mode.
Horn though is the one char I always end up putting back into my team when the stage feels annoying. She is one of the best at the one thing that destroy most TD genre as a whole, spawn killing, on a tank-dps hybrid who is already one of the best at it so you aren't giving up anything to have her in the team. HG keep designing stages to avoid spawn killing through placement design, restricted zone with CM and even Stealth but Horn manage to overcome all of them while shooting from a distance. Just aim her toward the most heated area of the map or just put her attack range right on top of the red box and it will work 99% of the time and HG is really struggling to do anything about this lol.
For newbies, Horn would be hard to use tbh.
@@CapucineNighly For the later chapter, maybe but for the early chapters, she's pretty much on the easier side while being extra rewarding. Instead of a just a defender in a lane, you have a defender who is more than durable enough for most bosses with very early access to a good AFK skill and also a good AoE clear option for doggo rush with her S2.
Most new players love to ball up anyway in front of their own blue box so having a character who can prevent leak, AoE clear and hurt bosses in a single investment is pretty good especially when we consider that Horn is also a good AFK clear char for Ahni as well.
Pretty good list, I think all of them have an argument for being top 10. The 2 I would probably question the most are Zuo Le and Kal'tsit just due to their limitations/drawbacks.
Kal'tsit falls off pretty quickly in optional challenge content though her upcoming module will help with that significantly in IS at least. The fact that it literally gives +50% to Mon3tr's stats though in addition to letting her heal 2 targets should say all you need to say about why I would counter her being in the top 10.
Zuo Le has sort of the opposite issue of Kal'tsit in that he has a sweet spot in difficult but not overly difficult content. In farming content he can actually perform worse due to not keeping his HP low enough. In extreme difficulty content he might not be able to survive. So he can be good and in particular he's really strong for some specific extremely challenging fights which is very nice, but his sweet spot limits his general consistent usefulness.
Again not saying definitively that either of these 2 shouldn't be top 10, I just feel like there's an argument to be made for other options. I'd probably drop 1 of them for Horn who has a lot of utility and is useful at every tier of content.
I would also probably move Ines up and Surtr down. I feel like Ines utility is not weighted heavily enough in this list. Surtr's long cycle time puts her behind a lot of others IMO. There are times when you need Surtr's damage but the others are going to be more consistently useful while Surtr is going to come in for specific enemies.
Ascalon and Logos will for sure bump some people, Ulpianus has the potential to do so as well but those are for another video.
@@ian59 Agree with Kal'tsit takes, she fall off hard but still good unit tho.
Horn/ Ascalon can replace her spot and Ulpian, without AH team, he is just fancy Hoederer.
@p1eswag910
Actually his current module is redundant with AH team it's more like spec alt mod X that's more suited for him in other teams.
Surtr and Ines should switch place, same with Ray and Typhon. I would say Ray is the best non-limited or even the best sniper behind Wisadel, her bind and big dph allowed you to bypass ton of annoying mechanics, she scale well in IS even with out a Hand relic for her archetype.
can you also include other 6* operator from recruitment to the list? i think even though some of them are also included in Kernel but i think sooner or later as long as you play the game we can have chance to get them.
I would recommend Nightingale over Kalsit if recruitment was included, she has a niche to completely turn bosses who deal art damage attacks like a baby.
have m6 zuo le and seeing him in 5 is suprise me. anyway great vid.
Good to know I only have 3 ops in this list but I'm still able to clear every single stage
That's actually the most important tbh. You able to complete the stage. How you complete it with the team you got, even if not everone on your team is meta, but you like their kit. Or your luck is trash and you're making do with what you got. I mean I always run my husbando only team for all the stages, if I can(not forced storywise to use a certain char).
can clear the game with 4 star. It's a well balanced game and these power creep 6* mostly just make it easier.
thx as always for the video dagyoo
Ascalon is really good because you can drop her near the enemy spawn they get debuffed and you can more easily clear stuff like the kill 400 stage with ascalon slow and typhon skill 2 along with other operators like Suzuran's skill 3 and Saria skill 3
Kal'tsit can hold a lane by herself with monster and Degenbracher is the NUKE EVERYTHING AROUND
I honestly think you should make a separate list for normal content and hard content tbh. The likes of Zuo Le and Goldenglow (and tbh even Cowshit) are completely unviable in hard content imho they are what I would call: "noob OP". The best picks in IS4/Extreme CC and extremely difficult CM maps are Nightingale (obv), Jessica Alter (very versatile) and Lumen (clears CCs) oh and obv Logos because he oneshots huge waves. I get that Zuo Le is one of your favorite OPs but yeah he is really bad and doesn't justify his spot tbh, especially when Executor Alter who is a better version of him didn't make it.
Not include limited. And combine those who are on par with similar role. Mine are :
1. Logos
2. Degenbrecher/Młynar
3. Ines
4. Typhon/Ray
5. Surtr
6. Kal'tsit
7. Reed alter
8. Ascalon
9. Goldenglow
10. Penance/Mudrock
think you have typo in description, in the video you said you excluded limited and kernel, but wrote "non-limited" are not included, double negation.
Fixed, thanks for letting me know
Imo as of 5th Anniversary:
With Limited OPs;
1) W'isadel (LIMITED)
2) Texas the Omertosa (LIMITED)
3) Młynar
4) Logos
5) Degenbrecher
6) Ines
7) Shu (LIMITED)
8) Ling (LIMITED)
9) Virtuosa (LIMITED)
10) Surtr
Without Limited OPs;
1) Młynar
2) Surtr
3) Logos
4) Degenbrecher
5) Typhon
6) Ines
7) Penance
8) Saria
9) Bagpipe
10) Executor the Ex Foedere
Edit: Adjusted some because I realised there's a lot of role overlap, that's why Typhon is not on the 1st list but is very high on 2nd, the 2nd list assumes Limited Operators don't exist.
GG is best than most of those unit my opinion. Not sure why people still don't think she is op
Id argue instead of bagpipe you can put GG in there (until lap alter comes out) bagpipe is nice to have but idk if she is top 10 anymore. Also not having mudrock or penance in the top 10 is weird. Maybe top 10 is too hard in ak I think. But this video doesnt make any sense at all.
@@eile4219😂 no than most this top 10, only bangpipe i would agree to replace with gg
Don't know how I feel about Młynar being higher than Logos... my opinion I would swap them and keep Surtr in the middle...
Typhon should be Ray. Wisadel took both of Typhon's role too much. And Ray does overtake Typhon in value. Typhon is better at dealing damage but that's it, everything else Ray is better
The list in the video:
10. Kaltsit
9. Reed Alter
8. Goldenglow
7. Ray
6. Ines
5. Zuo Le
4. Degenbrecher
Honorable mentions: Logos, Ascalon, Lin, Ebenholz, Executor Alter
3. Typhon
2. Surtr
1. Mlynar
even thorn, mountain, mudrock didnt mentioned on the honorable mention 😅😅😅 clearly this list should be 20 top
honestly, you cant win with the comments
Damn, you're butchering those names!) I mostly agree with the list. The places would have shifted if it was about IS. The shortstack sarkaz sniper with her adorable Swedish accent is my go-to operator for Annihilations and events. Mlynar is as solid as Typhon but harder to use. Honestly, I would have put Degen higher than Surtr just because of how reliable she is. Also, there are quite a few ways of increasing SP recovery, and the GOAT lady benefits from it the most while Mlynar and Surtr don't.
My personal list without limited would be
1. Logos
2. Ines
3. Degen
4. Mlynar
5. Ascalon
6. Ray
7. Goldenglow
8. Reed alt
9. Kaltsit
10. Zuo le
Logos & ines is no brainer. Degen has faster cycles than mlynar. Mlynar big pp dmg. Ascalon is queen of RA & basically what all u can ask for slower ops. Ray's reload isnt affected by aspd debuff & her cc is valuable on hard content, while having the best range for sniper. Goldenglow for content that buff ops & also great for blind run a stage. Reed alt top caster while also being the best medic. Kal's is the best non limited summoner while having niche of ignoring boss's bs mechanic. Zuo le is the only enmity that can scale to hard content due to his fast cycle skill
honorable mention
Typhon: great total dmg & lock on mechanic. But her dps is bad & horrivle skill cycle
Penance: good for stages with many trash mob but she need to snowball, which is a hard thing to do on hard content
Lin: alternative to eyja's s3, but safer
Exalt: good for daily & h- stages, but not that good on IS difficulty 15
Suzuran: staple for hard content
I'm a Veteran husbando collector in Arknights and have a strong bias towards the male operators(no matter the rarity). Especially after Logos finally got released. Well with that said, it's how you use the operators tbh. If newbie Doktahs can't decide. Can't go wrong getting Logos in standard banner. All his skills are useful, even at E0. He's a must M9 for sure.
I'd put Ines higher but pretty good list overall, especially the high ones. Not sure if I agree with Kalshit but I get it. Imo, Zuo Le has been more helpful to me than Surtr so personally, I'd put him higher than her. Horn should've been in the list as well. Honorable mention for me is Thorns but that's bc he is my husbando and he's the one who carried my entire acc. He's even better now with his module.
And now that Logos is out, bro is THE BEST non-limited 6 star in the game. Hands down, no question.
Overall good list but please learn to pronounce the ops names right...especially zuo le 左乐
When I see gg at 8 in this day and age I get that I've seen enough
ines is the best one, ines is top 2 of the WHOLE GAME, typhon is NOT better than ray and ABSOLUTELY not better than ines. also you made this before logos right?
It would be beneficial for your credibility to actually watch the video.
@@5chneemensch138idk man putting ines at 6 is criminal no matter what
@@5chneemensch138endgame player just put ines in the squad and done with the dp and other thing lmao. Flag pipe cant do shit like slow, binding,... 🤡 even hard content Ines still carry. How tf is she at 6 ???
@@aabluequeen56 i have talked about Ines exactly 0 times. You should read his second paragraph.
this guy (and a lot of people in comments) does NOT know anything about harder arknights content like a15 IS clears or even the recent chapters H stages. They judge operator's strenght based on some normal stages that is why Zuo Le is here since he is pretty good until you realise he is not outside of the most trivial content.
Would've been funny if u opened the reed analysis the same way as the kaltsit analysis
ray and typhoon are literally the same operator
typhoon as a better afk skill
thats why she is better
Mountain and Thorns not being on this list even in the honorable mentions but clowns like Reed Alter and Zuo Le are has to be a crime somewhere
Does the 5 star list still hold up for now? What were the most recent good 5 stars they've released (as rare as those are)
5* are rarely bad. You seem to have gotten brainrot from bad people. Don't worry, it's curable. And yes, his list mostly holds up, with the only special addition being Harold, who is outclassed once Mul/Honey get pots. Quercus is is the n1, no contest, however. 3rd best healer in the game, occasionally even best healer due to positive sanctuary.
Mlynar at top 1 is good. i think the same way
Arknights community is the most toxic one if it's about tierlist/top operator..
I don't agree with that degen placement
yeah thats for sure
Sutra is kinda meh nowadays
She should be higher on the list
For me it will be :
1) Logos : he can technically one shot the boss of Arturia's event (I will NOT call her Virtuosa) and he has 3 amazing skills even though the mains skills are the first and the third
2) Reed alter for her role as a "phone breaker"
* 2.5) I forgot Ines, as the most versatile operator
3) Ceobe and Ebenholz for hard content
4) Nightingale, Lumen (& Eiyaberry) annulation of mechanics and Silence Alter for the immortality window
5) Weedy, Gladiia, Angelina (and Phantom & Ebenholz) for the Crownslayer bully team
6) Kal'tsit & (not) Theresa just because
7) Pozëmka, Dorothy & Swire Alter as support damage with the pseudo-fast-redeploy typewriter and the mines
I get where you were coming from with the intro, but I feel like you restricted yourself too much with this. No limited plus no Kernal is removing a lot of the pool especially when as long as they aren’t a collab unit limited ops get reruns. Ines at number 6 is also just wild in my opinion.
tbh mountain is my number 1 pick for newbie player since it eases out many stages and I use mountain everytime I do blind runs even as a veteran player
Can he hit air? no😂
@@YulHolic24Damn if only he still used other ops like marksman. Are you really that stupid.
@@YulHolic24 Mountain has carried more max risk contingency contract clears since his release than any of the clowns on this list.
At least I kind of agree with this tier list, but whoever the player is who does waifu over meta, and does nicheknights, there's nothing I can do but respect them lmao 🤣
I was on board but disagreeing with some until you mentioned zuo le. He is good but saying he is top 10 just objectively false...
I disagree with 5. Zuo Le is pretty strong. Very strong, but he has issue - no heal. And that's a BIG problem. You cannot put him in stages where enemies deal elemental damage because he cannot recover it neither be healed by Wandering Medics. And also ranged enemies are nemesis to him, because of again, no heal.
So, yeah, he is cool, but only for special occasions.
I would not put him here.
And why here is no Defenders...
Shu, who is actually broken,
Why here is no
Ling, who can substitute a whole army. (Her dragons are the best Art damagers after Surtr(but you can put 5 dragons, while Surtr is always one.)
Wanering medic cant heal... My man forget that Eyja berry exist.
Oh dont forget Shu rice tiles, skadi aura heal or just put stainless turrent to have him basic attack.
And plus, Use you can just use S2 which gain him Barrier around 5K that also stack with Santuarcy buff.
And you also mentions Shu/Ling , so you dont read and watch intro at all, this video is only non limted character. ( if you mean Saria instead of Shu, that kinda work)
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read people, read! xDD
Ines at 6 🤡 She clear flag pipe, Ines doesn't need to be deploy but better than 99% van. We Don't need to care what the content hg cook but Ines is always useful, she and Logos should be top 1 lmao
Well if logos was in here he wouldn't be top 3
He would be top-1, cause unlike the other top 2, this guy can actually do more than just do unga bunga arts and necrosis dmg, he can slow enemies, decrease arts res, instakill mobs, clear elite mobs and even kill at least a single phase of a boss within 1 skill cycle. Making him undoubtedly the best standard operator we have till date, even including the new cn ops, no one tops logo's value .
They prob making this long ago with the but then adding it with honorable mention stuff, keep forgot that logos is not limited with how strong he is. Tho him not being not limited nice since that make future join ops like banner that have story ops being better banner for me since i dont have inez as well
@@bravo6going702 i agree
Logos s1 is just for the meme and isn’t as strong as people think. Its never enough to kill anything more than snails and dogs and has a long wind up time even at m3mod3 often time in IS the stage is over before his S1 is up. S3 is amazing if not for the long off skill so you need to fill in his cycle or find way to charge his s3 faster. I would still say he is the best damage dealler (he’s banned in some IS tournaments for a reason) and tie with Ines overall.
why no one mentioned about gladia? She is free after all
What?
Huh!
but I bought Kalsit with a yellow ticket...
Bro ines at 6 and Mylner at 1. Ines should be 1 and mylner at 6 with logos at 2.
Bruh what is this list for again?
I think you should watch the intro
This comment section proves that EN can't read.
Number 0 - W and W alter, destroy any living breathing enemy
He said no limited
@@thanhhaitran9422 no Im just saying my favorite 6 stars im not following his top 10 ranking
Reed alter is not limited?
Why is Surtr top 2? Ines, Degenbreacher, Exec Alter and Typhon are way waaaaaaaayy better and useful than her
because all those that you mentioned are new gen powercreep units, Surtr has been relevant to the meta far longer than those units have even been released
I only don't have Goldenglow here, oh welp. Oh and I guess degenbrecher and mlynar. Truth be told I hate both of those guards, so boring
you just hate blonds
Ines should be 1
I disagree, Ray should be higher than Typhon. With her module, Ray has more overall value and utility than Typhon, add that with Ray's crazy fast cycling.
With her module, Ray can defeat Patriot phase 1 in 16 seconds while Typhon S3 takes nearly double that time. Ray can then recharge her skill which recharges naturally quick and deal with phase 2.
Additionally, Ray's bind + flexible range that is even better than that of flingers and deadeyes is better than Typhon's pseudo-global range. Typhon also targets random enemies around her main target.
The only two things Typhon has over Ray is "total damage and some simplicity (and her S2)
even then, the time it takes for Typhon to finish 1 skill cycle, Ray has already had 2 cycles, and i dont know whats "simpler" than activating a skill every 20 seconds and placing her summon on the enemy you want to kill.
"oh but she has her reload problem.." her module literally makes her attack interval equivalent to that of Typhon's. And mind you, her real attack interval is even faster than that, AND MIND YOU, the Hunters have the best DPH among the Sniper class so the only real problem here is her range.. oh and guess what her talent and her skill 3 does, expand her range into one of the best Sniper ranges if not the best non-global range in the game. She can even kill the enemies behind her for those enemies you missed, even binding them to make sure they cant get away.
truth is, i dont really mind her placement as long as she was included lol
@@galeria_m Typhon AFK S2 > Anything Ray can do
@@ooczzy how so?
i just so happen to have a clear recorded of Ray doing the bosskilling and clearing the plenty of enemies that Typhon S2 let through and also Ray having Typhon's back the entirety of her downtime before her skill could activate.
Typhon's S2 may be afk but it's pretty inflexible (alleviated by her slow and stun, somewhat but she can still get overwhelmed rather easily since her ASPD is slow and having multiple enemies in her somewhat small range makes her dps go down pretty quick) and actually very limiting due to its nature. thats just how afk skills work in general.
Typhon S2 works brilliantly in most stages but it requires someone to back her up and do the exact things Ray did for her (in my clear).
Wis'adel?
mylnar is useless he not attacking enemy at all >:/
Surt at top 2 is wild. I feel like shes one of the most "replaceable" operators nowdays because so many ops can do a ton of dmg. Yes she has the immortality niche but it's surprising how rarely you actually need it.
Ines top 1
Lol this tier list is really irrelevant. New players SHOULD NOT watch this bs. Kaltsit and Ray being top 10? HOW?
Not to mention Modules were not included when determining who's better for now and for future content. Many operators become significantly better upon unlocking Modules.
Why is Ray in the top 10? Another Ray skipper ig? Maybe you don’t play some of the harder content like D15 IS4 with the triple or double endings/bosses or High risk(750+) CC. Maybe you still watch guide on how to clear stages and she is not used there so you assume she’s bad? Ray is the second best Sniper ops even in the CN server. Big DPH and Bind is extremely useful and she scale very well in IS even without a Hand relic. If anything Ray should be higher than Typhon in this list.
Another plus for Ray is that most if not all IS tournaments ban Wisadel so Ray is the best sniper there.
No way you include Ray and Zuo Le.
@@lopickolol Ray has more value than Typhon, Zuo Le has the best 1v1 capabilities and can recover his life within like 8 seconds so as long as he doesnt die within 8 seconds he can basically go on for a very very very long time
@@galeria_m I can tell you never did some hard content like a15 IS clears or recent chapters H stages. Zuo Le can "go on for a very long time" until you do an actual harder stages than the most trivial content for newbies
@exunektes7193 well now you're just wrong with the assumption? dont jump into conclusions so quickly
And I did say as long as he doesn't die within the few seconds he needs to get his skill up, he can essentially revive himself. That's simply how he works.
let's pick on your statements a bit more. "A very long time" of course, do you know how stalling works? yeah he functions like that in case you didn't know
"the most trivial content for newbies" now that's just overexaggeration, you think CM-EX clears are for newbies? They ARE daily content but newbies, way far. or do i need to define the word "newbie" for you as well?
"recent H stages" too, Zuo Le keeps up. have you really seen what Zuo Le can do?
all this tells me that you haven't actually used Zuo Le have you? Have a taste of your own accusatory attitude.
????? what ???... ZUO LE ???? He is not even near the top 10, he legit may be in the top 10 WORST 6* released. I can easily tell you didn't do much hard content in arknights like a15 IS clears or H stages from recent chapters where Zuo le gets annihilated. The only good enmity operators are mudrock and penance
This list is trash lol
What's your list
Top 10 means they are hard to replace characters and this list is a contradictory of it was suppose to be.
Top 10 means the best in the game, with your logic Weedy or Silence alter should've been top 3 on this list because no other operator can compete with them at what they do
@dagyoo you misinterpret my logic. Let's use yours then, can weedy solo clear waves and sustain at same time like how wisadel/texas? Yes both of them cant push like weedy but they both can offer more than that which puts them in top 10.
@dagyoo i dont know why you put zhou there when there is mudrock/penance. Zhou more of niche, upgraded version of general idk remember his name. Like come on,how come there is no texas alter there eveb tho he is more than a year old released character. Plus where is walter
And one more thing, why you add kalsit but not ling? This list is more of "my top 10 most used 6* ops that i own"
@@jamesu7054they explained at the beginning about how this is only for units that you can pull on standard (no limited/collab/kernel)
guess u dont include wisadel because she already broke the game
No, wisadel wasn't included because she will be in other list for limited only
watch the entire video
@@orcynus_ I watched the video, thats why I said that
@@alostperson2125 if you did watch the video, you would have realized that Dagyoo intentionall said that he didnt include any Limited operators because they would just overtake the list.
@@galeria_m it appears that you didn't understand the sarcasm that I made about "best operators". I just made a joke about wisadel that anyone knew all about, standing along with meta operators and yet some of you jumped in saying like I was stupid, not acknowledging about the video. Perhaps the term "I guess" was so hard to get it first time that anyone thought that i asked: "where is wisadel, why she's not in the list?"
Personally, I'd switch Zuo Le with Mudrock. Her Skill 2 for obvious Survivability and Lane Holding, combine that with Her Module to make here a veritable Juggernaught that can tank most bosses for a good while.