Fire Emblem Radiant Dawn: Endgame 3 Boss Conversations

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  • @weridplusho
    @weridplusho 2 ปีที่แล้ว +75

    Tibarn has got to be one of my favorite laguz. His directness that rivals Ike's, his lack of shame in his liking of fighting and his inner chaos. He's great.

    • @TheJaredPunch
      @TheJaredPunch 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Tibarn is my favorite Laguz in the game.

    • @BloomBox36
      @BloomBox36 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Tibarn is the Stone Cold of Fire Emblem.

    • @jimmycockslap361
      @jimmycockslap361 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      He’s the greatest laguz royal in combat and for his personality. Throughout all his lines he’s the only king who seems to give enough of a shit about his people being slaughtered and enslaved. All his quotes and lines with the dragon king make it seem like he really hates him because of his constant inaction.

    • @Yokai_Yuri
      @Yokai_Yuri 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@jimmycockslap361The Dragon King was too traditional to customs and that is why he is inactive. Besides, werw he to take action, the whole continent would've died. As there isn't really anyone who can stop him.

    • @jimmycockslap361
      @jimmycockslap361 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@Yokai_Yuri well yeah that’s kind of the point he could’ve leveled Daein in the first game and leveled bengion in the second. I can only imagine though he dosent want to sow more destruction than is necessary because I can’t imagine he is capable of holding back considering how ridiculously strong he is.

  • @kirby2325
    @kirby2325 4 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    Short version: Kurthnaga needs a hug, because his dad won't move to give him one.

  • @robertm5110
    @robertm5110 4 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    I like that Hitari was a place where the Branded lived normal lives :)

    • @BigKlingy
      @BigKlingy  4 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      Kind of a shame you never get to see it directly.

    • @Evilriku13
      @Evilriku13 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@BigKlingy inb4 it was planned but cut from both games.

    • @aznfan88
      @aznfan88 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Hatari is actually the only nation that has kept the covenant from the beginning all through the modern day having beorc, laguz, and even branded living together peacefully

    • @warriorpokemon1518
      @warriorpokemon1518 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I think there's more to that nation than we think. I believe that Hatari isn't a part of Tellius but really part of another country that survived the flood and it has many new laguz clans. I also theorized that while each country in this continent has a dominant race, they all have both beorc and laguz living in them.

  • @benjmeister227
    @benjmeister227 4 ปีที่แล้ว +86

    Wish there was a boss conversation with stefan, with Dheginsea recognizing he's part of the branded and a descendant of Soan

    • @robertm5110
      @robertm5110 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Oh that would have been great!

    • @MrGksarathy
      @MrGksarathy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Same.

    • @robinthedragonhunter64
      @robinthedragonhunter64 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yes

    • @gc6240
      @gc6240 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Wish he had a conversation with Soren too...recognizing him as his grandchild.

    • @butteredsalmonella
      @butteredsalmonella ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I don't think Dheginsea knows Soren is his grandson and that makes me sad

  • @DrewPicklesTheDark
    @DrewPicklesTheDark 3 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    "The goddess herself would hesitate to fight you."
    Kind of reminds me of those old unleashed extreme vids where Deghinsea was the strongest character and totaled Ashera (among everyone else). I think Ena was the only one to beat him, and mostly due to miracle luck.

    • @BigKlingy
      @BigKlingy  3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I used to like watching those.

  • @Yokai_Yuri
    @Yokai_Yuri 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Deghinsea is one of the very few bossws in the FE series that not only is almost on par with the final boss (lore wise at least) but also gives off this powerful aura of not to challenge him or you'll die.

  • @smokeyjail4394
    @smokeyjail4394 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    I love all of the Dragon tribe's loyalty to one another. It honestly brings a tear to my eye 😪

  • @NotGuy64
    @NotGuy64 5 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    Give credit to the old man he's still real difficult to take down

    • @BigKlingy
      @BigKlingy  5 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Bringing an extra sword user to Endgame to bless a Wyrmslayer for Ike definitely helps, as does Ena's Blood Tide. That plus spamming royals is the only real way to take him down in one turn... well, maybe Ilyana can help but I've never brought her to Endgame before.

    • @NotGuy64
      @NotGuy64 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      BigKlingy illyana is never worth building up

    • @BigKlingy
      @BigKlingy  5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      You pretty much only do it for blessed Thunder tomes here, and Thunder sucks in this game and her 3rd tier speed cap isn't enough to double Deghinsea.
      Bringing Bastian for blessed Bolting is a silly strat I've seen some people do, though.

    • @DiegoG2004
      @DiegoG2004 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@BigKlingy I've seen someone bring LAURA with a blessed Purge tome wrecking dragons every turn. Yes, Laura got extremely RNG blessed, she early promoted to 2nd tier (because she had almost all stats capped) and became a better Micaiah.

    • @niltondias5976
      @niltondias5976 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Ilyana do the job prety well. She's powerfull, just use one speedwing on her and you're done. She can land a killing blow on Dheginsea whit ease. Something like 45-50 dmg depending on support and tides. It's a shame RD gives only 45 max HP to female archsages, she could easily reach 55-60 HP

  • @DiegoG2004
    @DiegoG2004 5 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    2:02 However, your pacifist list includes Kurthnaga, so no, you are not stopping him by force.
    You're stopping him by being too tanky for him to beat you. (And not moving)

  • @amauriherrera6022
    @amauriherrera6022 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Deginshea is oddly polite and receptive of Elincia's counsel. Yet he mocks Sanaki and Tibarn; but also respects Naesala and ol' Chadneghis. Strange.

    • @trueblade3636
      @trueblade3636 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Cause Sanaki is just a child (imo he doesn't really mock her)
      And Tibarn is kinda rude to him as well. Tibarn is stubborn (like himself)

    • @Yokai_Yuri
      @Yokai_Yuri 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@trueblade3636Tibarn thinks he can take on the Dragon King which is funny 😂

  • @wind0309
    @wind0309 5 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    He should’ve had a conversation with Soren too. That would be cool to see

    • @BigKlingy
      @BigKlingy  5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      That'd probably spoil the big epilogue reveal a bit too early, though.

    • @Edgeperor
      @Edgeperor 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@BigKlingy it’s already a stupid reveal that only makes sense if you don’t think about it at all. Besides, Claude spoils the barbecue in his Chapter 5 conversation with Edain, which is a much bigger spoiler that also isn’t just pulled from thin air.

    • @MrGksarathy
      @MrGksarathy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@Edgeperor WDYM? The epilogue reveal makes a ton of sense if you just look at Soren, and then look at Kurthnaga. Not only that, but he avoids showing himself when the Grill Mercenaries are marooned in Goldoa, almost as if he suspects the truth.

    • @trueblade3636
      @trueblade3636 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@BigKlingythey could just have gave a hint. The dragon king sees branded, as we see in the convo with Micaiah. So Deghi could have a basic convo with a double how he recognize Soren (and first we assume that because Soren is branded).

  • @olwenftw7183
    @olwenftw7183 5 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    I love the conversations the Laguz have with Deghinsea. Makes me love the Laguz tribes even more.
    Kurthnaga's conversation with Deghinsea is really sad. Kurthnaga just seems so confused and distraught that his father won't listen to reason.
    7:14 Breaking news, local child attempts to fight Black Dragon. More on this tonight on Radiant News at 10 o' clock.

    • @BigKlingy
      @BigKlingy  5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      All of them are great, and I'm glad Nailah doesn't get left out even though she didn't get a pre-battle line. I wanted to show the pre-battle lines here since most people bring more than one royal to Endgame so it's rare you get to see the individual ones.
      At least you get some consolation that Kurthnaga can use Deghinsea for free exp, seeing as Degh won't counter him.
      7:14 You won't see this here, but I think Deghinsea was doing something like 65 damage and doubling. Ouch.

  • @SomeAsian
    @SomeAsian 5 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Goldoa, get off the couch and wash your freaking dishes.

  • @Blazecap
    @Blazecap 5 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Of course interesting maneuver...

    • @BigKlingy
      @BigKlingy  5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      How is that relevant to anything here??

    • @Delta_dragon.
      @Delta_dragon. 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I think it's because it is a meme.

    • @lightdrgn20
      @lightdrgn20 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Is this a meme from Mangs?

    • @Delta_dragon.
      @Delta_dragon. 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yep

    • @trueblade3636
      @trueblade3636 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@lightdrgn20 It's not a meme by mangs
      It's a meme from the game itself

  • @TheHonoredMadman
    @TheHonoredMadman ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Naesala is so fucking cool man. But so is Tibarn and of course Nailah. I wish we got more of her

  • @sam3851
    @sam3851 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Micaiah and Deghinsea's conversation really supports a "suicide by cop" headcanon. Ena's and Leanne's with him too. The only reason I'm hesitant to say it's actually implied ingame is that [Huge spoiler boss that starts with L] has much stronger implications for it, and I think there's only so many suicide by cop characters you can have before it gets weird.
    Anyways, nice video!

    • @BigKlingy
      @BigKlingy  5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Still, I feel it has merit given Micaiah's conversation, as well as Leanne's like you said. It's interesting to think about.

  • @NoahOfTheArc
    @NoahOfTheArc 5 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    The more you learn about the Branded, the sadder their situation becomes. It turns out there's a civilization across the desert where they live normally. The ones we know have suffered so much, but it doesn't have to be that way. It is not that way in other places.

    • @Sagemaster00
      @Sagemaster00 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think they call it Hoshio and Nohr

    • @teaz3139
      @teaz3139 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@Sagemaster00 it's Hatari, if you actually watched the video.

    • @Sagemaster00
      @Sagemaster00 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      tea z its just a theory, just like how Valentia became Valm, names can change

    • @trueblade3636
      @trueblade3636 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@teaz3139 Hatari AND an unknown dessert place where Stefan lives

    • @nancestpasmoi1834
      @nancestpasmoi1834 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@trueblade3636 reign, Stephan is the king

  • @MaxxyBee
    @MaxxyBee ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i like how caineghis is all like "yeah i know 😔" while tibarn and naesala just tell him to go fuck himself

  • @ArcaneSeason3
    @ArcaneSeason3 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    If only Oliver had dialogue against Deghinsea

    • @ffreman0009
      @ffreman0009 หลายเดือนก่อน

      HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA imagine

  • @PokeShadow77
    @PokeShadow77 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    4:03 yo that's sus

  • @galladeforce
    @galladeforce 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I looked back at the first video I commented on this channel recently and it turns out I have been commenting on this channel for slightly over a year. So a late anniversary to me I guess.
    So the reason the Wolf Tribe was not mentioned in the last game because the other Laguz thought they were extinct, they still did technically come out if nowhere though, and talking about Beasts considering that Fenrir is heavily involved in Norse Mythology I expect a Beast unit to appear as a villain in Heroes.
    I have a question regarding a possible Blind Run of Three Houses, that would be how the Spoiler Policy in regard to what we can talk about in the Comments. A so
    1. I guess that major plot spoilers for the route that you are playing are off the table. So for people in the comments who have played farther into the game than the latest video in the playthrough cannot talk about the plot past that point.
    2. How would the Spoiler Policy work in regards to the routes not being played. So would we be able to converse about spoilers for the Black Eagles Route in the comments or do you want too remain spoiler free about every route so you can potentially play every route completely fresh.
    3. Are aspects of the gameplay barred from discussion, for example would discussion of how certain mechanics work be barred like can we discuss the Growth Rates of characters like let’s say we can compare Dimitri and Slyvain’s Growths by comparing who has better growths in what stat or we have discussions on the intricacies of the Tutor System. So how far are we allowed to dig deep into the game.

    • @BigKlingy
      @BigKlingy  5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I might discuss the policies with people closer to the game's release. Right now I'm not too sure about gameplay spoilers, growths might be okay to discuss but not which classes get which skills and I'd like to experiment with the teaching system myself.

    • @exirion2154
      @exirion2154 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well, you were right about a Beast villain, but it wasn’t Fenrir, lol.

  • @andresalasthemessenger
    @andresalasthemessenger 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    To put aside of Gareth & Nasir from being suicidal, whatever U do, do not kill them BC they're important to join your side after taking out their leader ending the fight & U have no choice but to...
    Deghinsea, Dragon King of Goldoa... It's been awhile seeing this.
    "He's a really strong guy & I can respect that but in a position later on siding with the Goddess Ashera? I really don't like how it sounds but that's something U might be feeling sorry for the guy he's been through after losing his son back in the ending of PoR... now he dies leaving his 2nd son Kurthnaga to take his place & reunited with his loved ones... That's just... too sad. 😔 It's just not fair."
    Nailah, Queen of Hatari from the Desert... I never have thought when she speaks to him about the Wolf Laguz & Beorcs perhaps Branded living normally together & the Flood... Gods... That's harsh. I'm really sorry for her but I believe they'll be fine after all that what's happened.
    Seeing Deghinsea not facing the Herons, that's another one of that to never showing harm on them. It's a good thing some others like him won't.
    Oh yes! He did mention about someone else who speaks of such while talking to Rafiel... Hmm... Probably from a past back then...
    Goldoa... Sighs... That's a bummer sadly...

  • @pivotkid908
    @pivotkid908 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Deghinsea dies in Endgame

  • @krtos7514
    @krtos7514 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I loved that FERD gave the laguz kings, minus Nailah, a battle version of their theme for their battles. We need a remake of the PoR and RD with the latter having true support conversations, it is a shame that younger generations can't enjoy such gems.

    • @BigKlingy
      @BigKlingy  ปีที่แล้ว

      Even a virtual console re-release would be amazing.

  • @filiarage9587
    @filiarage9587 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I've always wondered, how do you get the translate from the old language for Leanne?

    • @BigKlingy
      @BigKlingy  3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Serenes Forest has transcripts of all of them.

    • @PokeShadow77
      @PokeShadow77 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      THE Serenes Forest?

  • @crimson1million
    @crimson1million 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    #DheginseaDidNothingWrong

    • @basilofgoodwishes4138
      @basilofgoodwishes4138 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He did more wrong than Rhea could have ever done.

    • @pedroribeirodesousa9152
      @pedroribeirodesousa9152 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@basilofgoodwishes4138 indeed I think that by isolating himself and the dragon tribe from the world he Essentially gave up on the possibility of Beorc and Laguz coexisting he never believed in it in the first place so he didn’t even try , which I’m my opinion is even worse that trying and failing, so the result would have been the same as he made no effort to solve to even try and mitigate the conflict, doing nothing is doing something

    • @pedroribeirodesousa9152
      @pedroribeirodesousa9152 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Also the same applies to this he made no effort to even convince ashera he just stood by and did nothing , blind loyalty is always wrong as a king he at least owned it to its people to try to save them

  • @spiderlover678
    @spiderlover678 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Spoiler!
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    The fact that he doesn't have a conversation with Soren, his grandson, irks me to no end. They didn't even have to outright reveal it, but it would've been cool to see if Dheginsea would've maybe had an inkling. Almedha recognized him as her son even after she lost her powers, so we can only assume Dheginsea would've felt some kind of feeling just from seeing him and talking to him.

    • @BigKlingy
      @BigKlingy  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I can just imagine him having a big moment of realization and Soren responding "I have no idea what you're talking about, and I don't care."

  • @nikoladedic6623
    @nikoladedic6623 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Do we ever learn the information from Nailah's boss convo outside of this chapter?

    • @BigKlingy
      @BigKlingy  5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I'm not sure. I'm guessing not due to Nailah's lack of presence in the main plot, but I vaguely remember her talking about this at some other point. Maybe in one of her Part 3 fight lines.

  • @basilofgoodwishes4138
    @basilofgoodwishes4138 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    He is basically Rhea without any Emotions or shred of Compassion. Do you think that Rhea might be a composite Character of both Lehran and Dheginsea? I compare often the two to her and I wanna know, if you see the same?

    • @BigKlingy
      @BigKlingy  4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      They aren't completely the same, since Rhea is heavily motivated by grief over the death of her mother and a desire to resurrect her at any cost, and is shown to be mentally unstable while Deghinsea is just a big wall of stoicism. Deghinsea also made a physical promise to a goddess, which is part of what he does.
      I think one big difference is that Deghinsea's enemies call him out on staying silent while Laguz suffered through slavery and oppression, so it's meant to be an in-universe flaw. Rhea's enemies are more concerned with the power she has over Fodlan and the belief system she spreads, while it's the FANS who make the "she knew about all the crest abuses and did nothing" argument.

    • @basilofgoodwishes4138
      @basilofgoodwishes4138 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@BigKlingy I agree that Rhea was more occupied with the quest to ressurect Sothis than anything else, this quest however was also done to return Fódlan back to the hands of Sothis in hopes that her mother can fix the problems again, it wasn't just a selfish endeavor. Dheginsea also was less out of loyalty here and mostly as you said doing it to commit Suicide due to having grown disillusioned with everything and feeling he deserves to die for all he did and not did. Besides the pact was Initially made to protect the Goddess from destroying herself, hence why Lehran and Altina proposed the covenant by promising to create a world free of any Continental wars.
      Yeah with Dheginsea, he was more guilty of the problems that occurred namely the taboo of any Laguz-Beorc Marriages, hence why a lot of Characters are against him, whereas with Rhea, she really has little choice in the matter and it's the Nobility that often causes the problems. Also the fans are mostly newcomers, who don't understand the tropes of the franchise and don't get what for instance the Rudolf Archetype is.
      Do you think Lehran and Rhea are more similar?

    • @BigKlingy
      @BigKlingy  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I'd disagree. Rhea at least has reasons why she does what she does, Deghinsea mostly comes off as an idiot who drags the entire dragon tribe down with him just to maintain "neutrality", and willingly sides with a goddess who wants to turn everyone in the world to stone.

    • @basilofgoodwishes4138
      @basilofgoodwishes4138 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@BigKlingy He was a very complacent Man, who just viewed everything as a sacrefice for the Covenant, because of his own fear of Chaos and Conflict. He himself was ok and his "superior" race not meddling with the others problem. He makes an better villian than Rhea, because he is a much better example as to how to write an Isolationist and segregationist than Rhea. Rhea is more sympathetic, but often is not allowed to be condemned a villian and gets a bit too much candy with her Historical denialism and the whole supression of science thing. That could be used by Khalid to explain that you cannot challenge Bigotry by allowing their stories to continue as he learned how such stories can fuel conflict. Byleth had to romance her to get an apology, but then again, you can marry your own students, so they already failed at the minimum.

    • @stygiandragon3865
      @stygiandragon3865 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      I actually feel bad for Dheginsea. Due to the fact that after he saw the Laguz loses their power after mating with a beroc, he thinks the only way to maintain everything in order is shut himself and the country away. While all he's doing is making everyone misunderstood his seemingly noble intentions. But none of this prevented the lost of his son from Ashnard nor stopping another war. But because he closed himself out for so long, I don't think he knows how to express his own thoughts and his loyalty to the promise doesn't help the matters as well. It's like asking an elite solider to prevent any large scale fighting. While Dheginsea's power is overwhelming on the battlefield, I believe he doesn't really know what to do to keep the peace or lecturing anyone about coexistence, hence I think that's why he twisted history.
      (I may be wrong, but this is what I believed so feel free to disagree.)

  • @Cyberspace318
    @Cyberspace318 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    1:20 Yes, because Goldoa will not move!
    5:55 So in other words, you will not move?
    7:23 He's not wrong.
    9:48-9:59 You heartless monster!
    10:08 *snickers*
    10:52 Sorry, but he will not move.
    11:20-11:33 Why? Why would you do this, BigKlingy?
    Aww... No Oliver...

    • @BigKlingy
      @BigKlingy  5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      7:23 Green Zephyr (lol)
      9:48 I had to show what happens if you kill them. That's obviously not canon though.
      I kind of wish Oliver did get dialogue here.

    • @Cyberspace318
      @Cyberspace318 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@BigKlingy 9:48 Yes, but the dialogue is so sad!
      Same here, but then again, Oliver doesn't really know Deghinsea, Nasir, or Gareth, so I don't know what he would say to them.

  • @thunderrunder7507
    @thunderrunder7507 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    3rd

  • @prosperitystar
    @prosperitystar 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    8:15 it would be better if she said: half of the existing gods oppose us and the other half is at our side. But the vas majority of people are against this

  • @trueblade3636
    @trueblade3636 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I dislike the fact that we *have* to bring Ena. She doesn't do or say anything noteworthy

    • @BigKlingy
      @BigKlingy  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah, it's weird. Blood Tide helps in the later Endgame chapters, but it's probably so they can be around for the Deghinsea stuff.

    • @trueblade3636
      @trueblade3636 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@BigKlingy Thank you for your reactions. I really like your content :)
      I agree that Blood Tide can agree help in the chapters. And yeah, it is probably for the Deghinsea stuff. But in my opinion, Ena has too less of a impact on the story and the Deghinsea stuff. Ena's arc kinda ends at the end of Path of Radaince. So therefore I would have preferred to bring another character I liked and trained more.