Genku is more or less a flavor first legend. It's Tamiyos husband and the token represent the partially adopted Hiroku, Rumiyo, and Nashi. He's nurturing them while Tamiyo is traveling the multiverse.
Hold on, the second ability of Coram is actually pretty strong. You get both ramp and cast from graveyard. He’s definitely better than what he seems at first glance. Even if he doesn’t hit something crazy like an eldrazi he’s still like a 4 mana, 6/5 that will constantly change amongst what gets milled or discarded that turn, not only being from his trigger so you can dig deeper from other mill effects like cemetery tampering to get you options fueled or find interaction if needed
Yeah im hyped for the jundertaker. Jund reanimator that threatens commander damage. Asterisk power creatures are solved at all times so cards like lord of extinction and malignus make him huge
Ahh yes, you can mill with other things and cast from those cards as well as from the attack. But it is not ramp, no? You can't cast an extra land from this? That would be my reading at least.
I've made a Jyoti deck and played it last night with some friends and he's actually pretty scary. if you can get repeatable blink on the board like Thassa enchantment then you can keep ramping. Slap a blackblade reforged on him and now you have a bunch of big bodies. He was a ton of fun and I want to tinker with the deck further.
I think Disa decks are all going to run Maskwood nexus to turn everything into a Lhurgoyf so then when you mill yourself you get all your best creatures to the battlefield for free
Huge monolith commander here though. Without Disa on the board, you're basically doing nothing. Without the Maskwood Nexus on the board, you're doing close to nothing. This is gonna be an easy commander to play against with a little bit of removal. I like your mill idea, but the first time it happens, people are gonna go OMG, and then Disa has that huge target painted in her back. She's definitely gonna need some protection, hexproof or shroud out on her.
For Satya, it'd be really cool to use Red "Steal a creature" spells to take someone's creature first, then copy it, then sacrifice their creature, then pay to keep your new creature! :D "Hey, cool Eldrazi! It's mine now..."
They are putting some pretty good Goyfs in here. I can see the appeal of an evergrowing army of hyper-efficient 4/5's & 5/6's (since I feel like Land, Creature, Instant, Sorcery, and/or Artifact is very doable from 4 players) Just focus the rest of your deck around good interaction, pump effects, and loot/self-mill.
It’s funny because Jyoti is the one I’m most interested in. I see a blinking deck, that equips and swings with mass land attacks. I was actually in the middle of building a Jolrael deck when I saw this revealed and now I’m super happy. Yes, it’s a “landfall” deck, but imo, a much more interesting (risky) way to do it. Animating a land is much more fun than simply playing a land and making 30 scute swarms…
The shenanigans for Disa is Tortured Existence. If a lhurguyf dies you can discard one from your hand to 1) get that creature back in your hand and 2) get a free lhurguyf at instant speed. Add a Phyrexian Altar and you can loop two lhurguyfs indefinetly.
Genku seems like a new less broken brago type commander and Coram seems like a less broken korvold type commander seems like they are actually designing some fairly good commanders here they don’t just do everything you wanna do super well isn’t that actually a good thing as far as the way the format is going with all the power creep I’m honestly glad to see these don’t at first glance seem that broken compared to some previous commander releases
I'm glad the plethora of new Energy cards dropped in the set, including the aptly-named "Aether Revolt" (set reference! they said the thing. Hour of Devastation did also). I wrestled for a *long* time with using Dr. Madison Li as an "energy dudes" commander (the UW dog in the deck is probably better) and opted not to, but this would be good for that purpose. It also works with the category of cards that both decks like: giant artifact dudes like Gearhulks.
with Jyoji the main thing you have to think about is not only token doubling but also the fact that there are other creatures that turn other lands into creatures, also get a card that says "Lands you control are Indestructible"
I agree that Jyoti is underwhelming as a commander, especially cause you have to find useful ways to send it back and recast. But it has its effect for "your commander", not just himself. I could see this being in the 99 of a deck, where you have a more "recastable" commander and some GY recursion or blink effects (Jyoti is ETB), so maybe the play is to drop Jyoti mid-game for 4->5->6 etc tokens. Still not sure where it all goes, maybe an overall dud. But I think its more of a 99 than a commander?
Jyoti is a food chain commander like Prossh was. Have Altar of the Brood, food chain and concordant crossroads or lotus cobra for insane mana. Green etb draw effects like The Great Henge or landfall triggers like Tatyova.
I dont know if jyoity is a good/interesting commander but it is probably going to find a space in my simic token deck, also landcreatures dodge a couple boardwipes (cyclonic rift as the most played example)
Disa lends itself to a commander viable hermit druid combo deck pretty well i feel like. You dont have blue for 4x narcomeba like in legacy, but instead you get every jund lhurgoyf and changeling so you can still flashback your dread return for a quick compact combo. Not sure what the outlet would be since having blue lets you just dread return a ThOr, but theres gotta be something.
I only run Dryan Arbor in my Lord WIndgrace deck that has 3 tutors for it : Green Sun's Zenith, invasion of Ikoria and Chord of Calling. I don't run cultivate/rampant growth cards because of this and just playing dryad arbor feels like getting a free mana dork when you have extra land drops. I get that it gets wiped, but I can just pick it up later with the commander. So it's built around it and I agree with you that you need a lot of reason to play dryad arbor
10:02 Well that really depends on the deck. If tricky terrain has a landfall sub theme then I think it will be an excellent card. Jyoti would be great in a reverse animated land deck there certainly are a lot of good landfall stuff in Simic and there are ways to turn your creatures into lands which can get out of hand rather quickly with the right cards
Coram is a Kagha but with red and gets a bit of steal. I myself am building a greaveyard leave deck with kagha and I am thinking about switching to coram
Disa along with a couple of cards just makes me thing Dune references. Tarmogoyf tokens might be good personally I am gonna use her as one of the 99. Coram The Undertaker is the one I'm wanting as the commander. I want to make goofy wrestling jokes Sunday Sunday Sunday smack down!
Genku abilities would see themselves separately if you blink it right? Wouldn’t that allow for as many as you want as long as you blink genku after each attempt
The main simic one (Omo I think) feels like it was a Merfolk that got creature-type switched at the last minute: Who doesn't wants a simic Merfolk than turns stuff into an Island to take advantage of Islandwalk enablers? I suppose being a Shapeshifter she can make herself a Merfolk with an 'everything' counter so after everyone has an island you can just make her a Merfolk and start Hakbal exploring on her as well. I know I'll run one for precisely that reason, though I'm unlikely to spend 70 bucks on the entire deck unless they go really crazy with the reprints (I doubt it)
Ragavan is one of the most played cards in modern. I'm not really sure that someone who doesn't play modern should comment on the presence of legendaries in modern sets. Someone posted on a reddit post "why is this even a legendary?" As if field of the dead wasn't banned in modern for it's absurd power.
wait, genku I feel like more about making permanents that should not be creatures in to creatures... maybe artifacts that untap target creature can now untap itself.... ect down that rabbit hole so to speak
This is my opinion and it gets mixed views but I think WOTC has made way to many board wipes and the overuse of those makes a lot of fun commamders less viable. The mindset of stalling a game so that you might be able to do something instead of wiping so that you can win is a big problem in the format.
Agreed even in my playgroup this happens and we may just be removing board wipes all together unless they’re one sided which usually outright wins the game
Not only is it a commander based modern set, but there will be special cards legal ONLY in commander. How do we recognize these cards? Unique set symbol! P.S. You shut your mouth! Coram is literally the only card in the set I'm even interested in. The whole set is trash, but Coram is bangin! 😂
It seems like card language is getting kinda messy these days. I get they’re trying to make language a bit more legible but you lose precision along the way. Wotc needs to go back to the drawing board and decide if they want precise language or intuitive language because whatever they’re doing rn sucks
Genku is more or less a flavor first legend. It's Tamiyos husband and the token represent the partially adopted Hiroku, Rumiyo, and Nashi. He's nurturing them while Tamiyo is traveling the multiverse.
So cool. Thanks for the lore
Also the other moonfolk have offerings in cost, fox, moonfolk, and rat offering to reduce cost
and in aftermath of march of the machines nashi and hologram tamiyou reunite with genku
Hold on, the second ability of Coram is actually pretty strong. You get both ramp and cast from graveyard. He’s definitely better than what he seems at first glance. Even if he doesn’t hit something crazy like an eldrazi he’s still like a 4 mana, 6/5 that will constantly change amongst what gets milled or discarded that turn, not only being from his trigger so you can dig deeper from other mill effects like cemetery tampering to get you options fueled or find interaction if needed
Yeah im hyped for the jundertaker. Jund reanimator that threatens commander damage. Asterisk power creatures are solved at all times so cards like lord of extinction and malignus make him huge
@@ThePhoenixPaladin plus the art work is actually really cool looking
Ahh yes, you can mill with other things and cast from those cards as well as from the attack. But it is not ramp, no? You can't cast an extra land from this? That would be my reading at least.
I’m actually hyped for Coram! Can’t wait to use my friends lands that get milled, and entomb my yargle and multani
Well it's technically not ramp but I still think he's really cool and good
I've made a Jyoti deck and played it last night with some friends and he's actually pretty scary. if you can get repeatable blink on the board like Thassa enchantment then you can keep ramping. Slap a blackblade reforged on him and now you have a bunch of big bodies. He was a ton of fun and I want to tinker with the deck further.
I think Disa decks are all going to run Maskwood nexus to turn everything into a Lhurgoyf so then when you mill yourself you get all your best creatures to the battlefield for free
Huge monolith commander here though. Without Disa on the board, you're basically doing nothing. Without the Maskwood Nexus on the board, you're doing close to nothing. This is gonna be an easy commander to play against with a little bit of removal. I like your mill idea, but the first time it happens, people are gonna go OMG, and then Disa has that huge target painted in her back. She's definitely gonna need some protection, hexproof or shroud out on her.
Conspiracy also works. Like the other person said though, seems pretty soft to interaction.
For Satya, it'd be really cool to use Red "Steal a creature" spells to take someone's creature first, then copy it, then sacrifice their creature, then pay to keep your new creature! :D
"Hey, cool Eldrazi! It's mine now..."
1:06 Very serendipitous that you just talked about Palinchron in a recent video. That's a bomb in this deck.
I built a bant land blink deck that genku would be perfect for. It’s basically a deck built around ovinmancer.
They are putting some pretty good Goyfs in here. I can see the appeal of an evergrowing army of hyper-efficient 4/5's & 5/6's (since I feel like Land, Creature, Instant, Sorcery, and/or Artifact is very doable from 4 players) Just focus the rest of your deck around good interaction, pump effects, and loot/self-mill.
It’s funny because Jyoti is the one I’m most interested in.
I see a blinking deck, that equips and swings with mass land attacks.
I was actually in the middle of building a Jolrael deck when I saw this revealed and now I’m super happy.
Yes, it’s a “landfall” deck, but imo, a much more interesting (risky) way to do it. Animating a land is much more fun than simply playing a land and making 30 scute swarms…
The shenanigans for Disa is Tortured Existence.
If a lhurguyf dies you can discard one from your hand to 1) get that creature back in your hand and
2) get a free lhurguyf at instant speed.
Add a Phyrexian Altar and you can loop two lhurguyfs indefinetly.
Genku seems like a new less broken brago type commander and Coram seems like a less broken korvold type commander seems like they are actually designing some fairly good commanders here they don’t just do everything you wanna do super well isn’t that actually a good thing as far as the way the format is going with all the power creep I’m honestly glad to see these don’t at first glance seem that broken compared to some previous commander releases
I'm glad the plethora of new Energy cards dropped in the set, including the aptly-named "Aether Revolt" (set reference! they said the thing. Hour of Devastation did also). I wrestled for a *long* time with using Dr. Madison Li as an "energy dudes" commander (the UW dog in the deck is probably better) and opted not to, but this would be good for that purpose. It also works with the category of cards that both decks like: giant artifact dudes like Gearhulks.
with Jyoji the main thing you have to think about is not only token doubling but also the fact that there are other creatures that turn other lands into creatures, also get a card that says "Lands you control are Indestructible"
I agree that Jyoti is underwhelming as a commander, especially cause you have to find useful ways to send it back and recast.
But it has its effect for "your commander", not just himself. I could see this being in the 99 of a deck, where you have a more "recastable" commander and some GY recursion or blink effects (Jyoti is ETB), so maybe the play is to drop Jyoti mid-game for 4->5->6 etc tokens.
Still not sure where it all goes, maybe an overall dud. But I think its more of a 99 than a commander?
There is only a little moonfolk to go off of. I put Dryaid Arbor in my Titina deck because it benefits from it
Jyoti is a food chain commander like Prossh was. Have Altar of the Brood, food chain and concordant crossroads or lotus cobra for insane mana. Green etb draw effects like The Great Henge or landfall triggers like Tatyova.
I dont know if jyoity is a good/interesting commander but it is probably going to find a space in my simic token deck, also landcreatures dodge a couple boardwipes (cyclonic rift as the most played example)
Tortured existence for the tarmoghoyf lady
I hope the precon is good
Disa lends itself to a commander viable hermit druid combo deck pretty well i feel like. You dont have blue for 4x narcomeba like in legacy, but instead you get every jund lhurgoyf and changeling so you can still flashback your dread return for a quick compact combo. Not sure what the outlet would be since having blue lets you just dread return a ThOr, but theres gotta be something.
For coram its just gotta be malignus right? Half your opponents max hp if they gain 2 ho for a single commander lethal swing.
with jyoti you can blink him?! his abillity triggers on him entering the battlefield i mean youll only get 1 or two arbors for each blink though.
I only run Dryan Arbor in my Lord WIndgrace deck that has 3 tutors for it : Green Sun's Zenith, invasion of Ikoria and Chord of Calling. I don't run cultivate/rampant growth cards because of this and just playing dryad arbor feels like getting a free mana dork when you have extra land drops. I get that it gets wiped, but I can just pick it up later with the commander. So it's built around it and I agree with you that you need a lot of reason to play dryad arbor
10:02 Well that really depends on the deck. If tricky terrain has a landfall sub theme then I think it will be an excellent card. Jyoti would be great in a reverse animated land deck there certainly are a lot of good landfall stuff in Simic and there are ways to turn your creatures into lands which can get out of hand rather quickly with the right cards
Coram works well with Wheel effects that’d be cool
Coram is a Kagha but with red and gets a bit of steal. I myself am building a greaveyard leave deck with kagha and I am thinking about switching to coram
Moon folk are extremely good at returning your lands to hand and that would trigger the commander to make tokens too. Azorius moonfolk with landfall?
With Disa, just cast buried alive, a red copy spell and you can reanimate 6 Tarmos.
Genku is going into Aminatou so fast.
Wait, does it mean you have to remove a moonfolk to get a moonfolk token? That's trash.
You definitely need Changelings in Disa.
Disa along with a couple of cards just makes me thing Dune references. Tarmogoyf tokens might be good personally I am gonna use her as one of the 99. Coram The Undertaker is the one I'm wanting as the commander. I want to make goofy wrestling jokes Sunday Sunday Sunday smack down!
The only time i can think of wanting vanilla creatures is when you have Ruxa, Patient Professor in play for a Disa deck
disa the restless could be used with changelings
Genku abilities would see themselves separately if you blink it right? Wouldn’t that allow for as many as you want as long as you blink genku after each attempt
correct. blinking genku resets everything. that's why a blinking strategy is probably best.
what's your take on Nadu, Winged Wisdom, because it seems pretty insane to me
yep, busted.
Genku with rhe three patrons [fox,nezumi,moonfolk] be fun
so disa says play maskwood nexus, dump your library in the yard, win the game...
peer into the abyss yourself with disa, have anger in your deck and a bunch of lhurgoyf.
Why do people call there creatures a team? It is not a team. It is a army that you are trying to kill your enemies with.
Jiyoti goes infinite so easily
Wait, what's the Hans Eriksson reference?
I would consider Jyoti for the 99 in blink etb elementals
The main simic one (Omo I think) feels like it was a Merfolk that got creature-type switched at the last minute: Who doesn't wants a simic Merfolk than turns stuff into an Island to take advantage of Islandwalk enablers? I suppose being a Shapeshifter she can make herself a Merfolk with an 'everything' counter so after everyone has an island you can just make her a Merfolk and start Hakbal exploring on her as well.
I know I'll run one for precisely that reason, though I'm unlikely to spend 70 bucks on the entire deck unless they go really crazy with the reprints (I doubt it)
Ragavan is one of the most played cards in modern. I'm not really sure that someone who doesn't play modern should comment on the presence of legendaries in modern sets.
Someone posted on a reddit post "why is this even a legendary?" As if field of the dead wasn't banned in modern for it's absurd power.
wait, genku I feel like more about making permanents that should not be creatures in to creatures...
maybe artifacts that untap target creature can now untap itself.... ect down that rabbit hole so to speak
Genku = blink the outta it :D lol
Disa + Buried alive = 4 free goyfs from the deck
Jyoti = just like Genku :)
I mean change the types of all creatures in all zones. Then everything is a lurgoyf
This is my opinion and it gets mixed views but I think WOTC has made way to many board wipes and the overuse of those makes a lot of fun commamders less viable. The mindset of stalling a game so that you might be able to do something instead of wiping so that you can win is a big problem in the format.
Agreed even in my playgroup this happens and we may just be removing board wipes all together unless they’re one sided which usually outright wins the game
1:01 "We can't put mouse token here, it would be racist" - WotC employee, probably
Stacy out the last one keep second Thalia around
Stax out not Stacy out 😂
Jolrael is infinitey better than Jyoti. But he's definitely going in the 99!
I only play commander to with mondrak
Genku is a commander that does the very thing i have promised to never (ever) do. Tokens AND counters? Hard pass.
Not only is it a commander based modern set, but there will be special cards legal ONLY in commander. How do we recognize these cards? Unique set symbol!
P.S. You shut your mouth! Coram is literally the only card in the set I'm even interested in. The whole set is trash, but Coram is bangin! 😂
It seems like card language is getting kinda messy these days. I get they’re trying to make language a bit more legible but you lose precision along the way. Wotc needs to go back to the drawing board and decide if they want precise language or intuitive language because whatever they’re doing rn sucks
agreed. wording on cards is getting more confusing.
2:23 moonFORK tribal
Coram is def better than you made him seem lol
it's not about better, it's about boring.
4/5 of these make tokens. Getting a little tiresome
they're running out of ideas for those commander triggers.
Mh1 power creep has nothing on mh3
If you compare both now yes but in 2019 it was very different