SSBM: How to Shield Drop FAST and CONSISTENTLY

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  • @PoorZhu
    @PoorZhu 10 ปีที่แล้ว +335

    10/10

  • @zam626
    @zam626 10 ปีที่แล้ว +61

    This guy four stocked me in a falcon ditto at apex on fountain of dreams. Now I know why. Great vid.

    • @superiorautism
      @superiorautism 9 ปีที่แล้ว +50

      If you got 4-stocked, it probably wasn't because of shield-dropping.

    • @zam626
      @zam626 9 ปีที่แล้ว +93

      Batman well, i am also bad.

    • @chis5050
      @chis5050 8 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      +zam626 the truth finally comes out

    • @franklinestrella5724
      @franklinestrella5724 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      zam626 is that THE 226

    • @kiirbstomp
      @kiirbstomp 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      it's because he had a captain falcon controller

  • @carlcarmoni
    @carlcarmoni 8 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Very well spoken and genuine commentary and explanations, really great man!

  • @Tripleyou
    @Tripleyou 9 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    There is yet another method that kind of builds on top of this, which is tilting your shield during shield stun, which imo is the superior method. Then you can angle your shield optimally for defense while on a platform, tilt all the way to a side during shield stun and drop through asap when you're out of shield stun.

  • @benschleck6769
    @benschleck6769 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Every video advertises it makes it fast and easy but this video definitely delivered.

  • @darklord2626
    @darklord2626 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    ive been doing dash drops for like a year now and i knew there had to be a better way. this has helped me so much thank you

  • @tristanswim
    @tristanswim ปีที่แล้ว

    This helped a lot to understand how shield drops work. An instant improvement for me. Thanks!!

  • @moraigna66
    @moraigna66 9 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    My favorite "set up" is not described in this video. I just position my Control stick during the shieldstun of the attack of protecting against.. Of course, the attack needs a minimum of stun, but not too much.
    Also, if you "accidentally" power shield, then you might roll =/

  • @leomeror
    @leomeror 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    wow this video is awesome! I'm new in the smash community and got so confused with all the possible ways to shielddrop and how it actually works, so i was so glad this video covered ALL the options and well explained too! :) GJ

  • @whoiskorbo
    @whoiskorbo 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was able to get consistent shield drops in 5 minutes or less. Thank you for making this!!!

  • @TahirHanif
    @TahirHanif 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Did not expect to find this getting back into melee. Right on bro!

  • @TheReflexWonderful
    @TheReflexWonderful 10 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I think your method of Shield+max Control Stick direction is actually still doing it preemptively; I think you're pressing the commands on the normal landing lag of 2-4 frames. Starting it from the ground should get a roll if you press them at the same time, iirc.
    Either way, this is a great resource; thanks for taking the time to put this up!

    • @SSBUniversity
      @SSBUniversity  10 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Oooh I never thought of that or looked into any frame data of this. That totally makes sense!

  • @PrinceShion
    @PrinceShion 8 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Thank you thank you thank you!!!!! This video was so helpful!!!

  • @danielvutran
    @danielvutran 10 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    helpful! basically just setups for Axe's method, except more in depth LOL. Pretty sure axe does it this way too but just never got too far in depth about it xD

  • @eddiestilll
    @eddiestilll 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    literally learned how to shield drop in less than 10 min thanks to u :D u rock man!

  • @shadoninja
    @shadoninja 9 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I'm getting better at shield dropping, but I do want to let it be heard that this isn't quite as consistent for me as you suggest. It works well, but the speed of the motion is still super important.

  • @cheesescientist8180
    @cheesescientist8180 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    THATS IT?!??!?!? THATS HOW EASY IT IS!?!?!??! IVE BEEN TRYING FOR A YEAR TO GET IT CONSISTANT AND WITH THIS METHOD ITS SO EASY WHAT THE HELL
    thank you

  • @zillavanilla6353
    @zillavanilla6353 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is literally the best video ever

  • @bboyHarrypotter
    @bboyHarrypotter 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    A trick I use to hit the raw angle/speed is imagine my control stick itself is doing the shield drop. If you move the control stick down at the same speed as the animated character does the shield drop, it'll work. kinda weird but yeah

  • @StealthyPanda122
    @StealthyPanda122 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is also good because if you decide not to shield after you aerial, it sets up for an isai/shai drop nicely since you're already holding toward the side

  • @SSBMARBLES
    @SSBMARBLES 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What a legendary video thanks SSBU

  • @superdude4464
    @superdude4464 9 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Great video! Quick question: I noticed you were light-shielding most of the time. Does light-shielding make shield dropping easier, or is it better to use your full shield? I'm aware that after rolling, holding Z brings up a light shield, though I'm not sure if there's any particular difference with regards to shield dropping with light or full shield.

    • @TheSuperCommentGuy
      @TheSuperCommentGuy 9 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      +john paul foronda Sorry, late reply, but he is light shielding because if he did a normal shield before landing he would airdodge before he touched the ground. The light shield is a good way to preemptively shield while not messing up your landing.

  • @dacoolhuan
    @dacoolhuan 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You talk like a professor, you should teach a subject, great vid

    • @Victra
      @Victra 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Wow thank you! I'm only seeing this comment now. A lot of changed, but this year I did get hired as an Instructor for a local University coincidentally enough. Thank you for this comment!

  • @SilverShadow02
    @SilverShadow02 9 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    So i can perform any action and set-up my sheild drop, OR i can hold my shield and let my opponent hit it (like Gravy does), and getting hit is the setup i need to shield drop...hmm very interesting yes, quite.

  • @kevinyoutube8365
    @kevinyoutube8365 9 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    For axe's method, when you shield->tilt control stick all the way left/right, don't you just shield roll?

    • @Humbrg3rH3lpr
      @Humbrg3rH3lpr 9 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I'm pretty sure it has to do with the speed you tilt the stick left/right. Kind of like after doing an up-tilt you can have the control stick all the way up without jumping. I would focus on learning the last method he mentioned- tilt stick all the way left/right at the same time or a split-second before shielding. Then input the slight down angle to shield drop.

    • @kevinyoutube8365
      @kevinyoutube8365 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      At 1:19 he says: "shield, angle all the way left or all the way right, and go down 1 notch on the control stick". That's different than the technique described later in the video where he preemptively tilts the controlstick left/right before shielding. So... I still have the same question. Is there a way to tilt your controlstick all the way left/right when your shield is already up and not shield roll?

    • @kevinyoutube8365
      @kevinyoutube8365 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      ***** He mentions this (axe's) technique again at 2:12 where he tilts the controlstick after he shields

    • @Humbrg3rH3lpr
      @Humbrg3rH3lpr 9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ***** Ya it's possible, you do it more precisely like your doing a tilt move. I'm bad at explaining things but its sort of like after an up-tilt you can have the control stick all the way up without jumping. If you can shield DI then all your doing is moving your shield all the way to one side then and inputting the notch down.

    • @kevinyoutube8365
      @kevinyoutube8365 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      ahh that makes a lot more sense now. thank you!

  • @skullo5557
    @skullo5557 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Oh wow thanks dude I’ve been looking for a video like this for a whil

  • @Athos90
    @Athos90 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Extremely helpful video, really helped me out, thanks.

  • @Uhcip
    @Uhcip 10 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    the only problem with full tilt shield drop is that it can leave a hole on one side where you can get shield poked. particularly noticable when your shield isnt full or if your character has a poor shield?

    • @krazyzyko
      @krazyzyko 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You could light shield with Z though.

    • @Uhcip
      @Uhcip 9 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Axel Morales and get shield broken by marths B in one hit, or get pushed way off the platform instead of shield dropping? havent seen any of the pros use that

    • @krazyzyko
      @krazyzyko 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Marth doesn't break the light shield on one hit. Leffen uses light shield sometimes. It's another option to be wary of. If you get knocked off the platform you can tech or simply land depending on the character.

    • @Uhcip
      @Uhcip 9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      i use light shield but it seems counter productive when you want to shield drop I guess

    • @krazyzyko
      @krazyzyko 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, I just use it when l don't want to risk getting hit.

  • @jojowastaken
    @jojowastaken 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    best shield drop video on youtube :D

  • @Njzfinest
    @Njzfinest 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    You can also tilt during the waveland animation

  • @patrickquigley9664
    @patrickquigley9664 9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I can do this on the left side almost every time, but when I do it on the right side, I just spot-dodge. Any help?

    • @KalebSDay
      @KalebSDay 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Irwin Longwood I have the same problem, but the other way around :/

  • @shinesp4962
    @shinesp4962 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    When doing the Tilt Left/Right and then go down to the 45 degree notch sometimes I still spotdodge. Does this mean I just pushed the control stick slightly too far down? Also would you say its best to like hug the rim of the notches as you roll it down?

  • @naguleader
    @naguleader 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very helpful video, thank you very much!

  • @lennyblanko
    @lennyblanko 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    dashing cancels the buffer roll when you move the stick to the left or right?

  • @LuigiMan311
    @LuigiMan311 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    What are some situations that would require shield dropping? I'm a fairly new player so forgive me if this is an obvious question, I'm just having trouble understanding when this is appropriate to use.

  • @_hio_0
    @_hio_0 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great tutorial, thanks

  • @Cheis_
    @Cheis_ 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    With your method of tilting your shield, does that open you up to be more likely to be shield poked? Or does light shielding solve that?

  • @daisuke4bleach
    @daisuke4bleach 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    this has helped me soooo much, however, i have noticed that when i do it to the right it is more difficult and i feel as though i'm doing the same process. Is it any more difficult that way or? I do it consistently to the left everytime but the other way i get spot dodge more unless i do the movement slowly rather than fast like i can do to the left.

  • @0wn3dforlife
    @0wn3dforlife 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    So how should i go about this, if i have to block an attack coming from below the platform that may poke through my shield? How can i tilt the shield down to block, then shield drop off that?

    • @ssbmvictra2614
      @ssbmvictra2614 10 ปีที่แล้ว

      You are still able to tilt your shield downwards (or anywhere else) to avoid the poke. When you get hit, you are able to input your stick back to the far left/right position during the shield stun so that the input isn't registered but you have your control stick positioned appropriately, and then you shield drop from there.

    • @0wn3dforlife
      @0wn3dforlife 10 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ohhh, thanks!

  • @comfortea
    @comfortea 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm really feeling it!

  • @quinn1539
    @quinn1539 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cool controller. Where did you get it painted?

  • @gabrieljreed
    @gabrieljreed 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    What are the inputs after you tilt your shield to the side? I assume you push down with the control stick. Do you keep holding your shield down?

    • @ThisIsWEB
      @ThisIsWEB 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +Gabriel Reed Yes, hold your shield until the drop occurs. When you're tilted to the side, roll the control stick downward drop.

  • @Darktega
    @Darktega 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    But in the "buffer" method you sacrifice the hability to angle your shield down am I right?

    • @rumfordc
      @rumfordc 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      just make sure you buffer to the side u want to defend from

    • @LengthyUsername
      @LengthyUsername 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      you can simply let go of your buffer to re-center and then position your shield as you like, although this does take time.

  • @Anddrew914
    @Anddrew914 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    How do you tilt the stick without rolling while shielding?

    • @rumfordc
      @rumfordc 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      do it slow or get the control stick in position *before* you press shield

  • @sinistar3198
    @sinistar3198 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wait, there's a raw angle? I can probably grind that out. . .

    • @jackc2981
      @jackc2981 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sini Star it depends a lot on controller

    • @DrDepperFanMan
      @DrDepperFanMan 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Don't. The raw angle is an incredibly precise spot on the controller that is incredibly difficult to even grind it out. But if you really want it, it is the vertical height of the second notch but in the middle of the controller and you have to move the joy stick so far or it won't pick it up.

    • @EMan-hr5vf
      @EMan-hr5vf 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      The trick I find best for the raw angle is to be smooth with your input as jerking it is more risky

  • @krazyzyko
    @krazyzyko 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you soooooo much for this!!! ^0^

  • @KalebSDay
    @KalebSDay 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    This works flawlessly shield dropping to the right, but when doing it to the left there is a really annoying spot dodge problem and I have to do the motion a lot slower for it to work :( Any others had this issue?

    • @Rhycebell
      @Rhycebell 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      your controller might not be good at doing it to the left you might need to at a notch on the left to help

    • @KalebSDay
      @KalebSDay 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      thepieguy1 I found out how to make it work.I have to stop about a millimeter before the next notch down. Wish it would just work down to the notch, but at least I found somewhat of a solution

  • @leroyjenkins3757
    @leroyjenkins3757 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    How the hell are you instantly pulling out z shield without throwing or attacking first?

    • @recoveredpixel
      @recoveredpixel 9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      +Leroy Jenkins It's a light shield and you just have to barely press down on one of the shield buttons. Kind of like at optimal L-Cancel level of pressure.

    • @leroyjenkins3757
      @leroyjenkins3757 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      recoveredpixel Alright, thanks.

    • @Orbrun
      @Orbrun 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +Leroy Jenkins or hold a and press z

  • @TheBiomedZed
    @TheBiomedZed 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    One word: A R D U I N O

  • @raydellwilliams8580
    @raydellwilliams8580 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Super Smash Bros University where you got that controller?

  • @johnhurley8918
    @johnhurley8918 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    won't you roll of you move your stick all the way to the side?

    • @kaleksi7349
      @kaleksi7349 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Tilt it slowly and you won't roll. It will just angle your shield to the side.

  • @AssertivePenguin
    @AssertivePenguin 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the vid!

  • @OutofLives
    @OutofLives 9 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Who wants to play my now unstoppable Falcon?

    • @CapFlipGaming
      @CapFlipGaming 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      +OutofLives. I do. Netplay?

    • @setchi1629
      @setchi1629 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      +ssbrosking36 Netplay suuucks.

    • @simonk5826
      @simonk5826 9 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      +Adam Farmer only if your internet suuucks

    • @ghadahassan3806
      @ghadahassan3806 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      +ssbrosking36 lets do it

    • @setchi1629
      @setchi1629 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Simon K Nope, it's nowhere near as good as CRT + Wii/GC

  • @a4p426
    @a4p426 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    How did Shield Dropping, become so popular?

  • @dunzhen
    @dunzhen 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    helpful tutorial. thank you

  • @electromagneticlemon
    @electromagneticlemon 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you do this in PM?

  • @Purey97
    @Purey97 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    THANK YOU SO MUCH

  • @Tripleyou
    @Tripleyou 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    and lastly the absolute best way is to angle your shield during shield stun. That way you don't leave youself open and you can shield di optimally

  • @NastyKugogo
    @NastyKugogo 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    isai dropping is a nice way to shield drop-

  • @austintacious94
    @austintacious94 9 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This method is only useful when you have a controller that can do it or reset your controller to be able to do so.

    • @moraigna66
      @moraigna66 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +MeleeMan How do you reset your controller for this method? I never heard of it before.

    • @austintacious94
      @austintacious94 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hold X,Y,Start for 3 seconds with the control stick tilted opposite of how you want the neutral position to be.

  • @tonyquinde
    @tonyquinde 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    GRACIAS AMIGO!

  • @s_link
    @s_link 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    6 years later in 2021 people are still trying to learn melee (:

  • @hylianmango8272
    @hylianmango8272 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    yo nilered plays smash!!? Jokes aside, good tutorial.

  • @jamonesbaratoskim8039
    @jamonesbaratoskim8039 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    this video has 2015 likes and it was uploaded on 2015. Nothing wrong with it, just wanted to say it.

  • @ssbmAndy
    @ssbmAndy 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    victra u handsome kid you.... ill see you at evo nigga.
    Informative vid. Theres also another way to do it where you do a quick roll motion on the control stick and ending it in neutral position. The roll motion is crucial as it allows for higher chances for hitting that shield drop area.

  • @joshuadurham9570
    @joshuadurham9570 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    If a good player sees your shield angled to one side, he will read the shield drop. Just practice the raw method.

    • @viscen5201
      @viscen5201 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Joshua Durham I mean, you could always read that they'll think that and not shield drop

  • @TheRealBoof
    @TheRealBoof 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi, Victor :>

  • @TheRush143
    @TheRush143 10 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Real men do shield drops raw kekeke

  • @ryanfeller9027
    @ryanfeller9027 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Alberta gang

  • @austinfranks248
    @austinfranks248 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why was this video 5 years ago
    Why was 5 years ago 5 years ago

  • @Daphnoir
    @Daphnoir 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    I can shield drop in two ways, pretty consistently now.
    But i don't 100% understand these steps =$

  • @BrunoD5
    @BrunoD5 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    spooky

  • @tiztoc977
    @tiztoc977 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    what this guy fails to mention is that this is almost COMPLETELY dependent on your controller LOL
    you need to have a good enough controller that has its notches correctly lined up with the sd values, otherwise you just spot dodge again and again

    • @hotnuggs
      @hotnuggs 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Okeefeg Okeefeg unless you're using a ucf setup

  • @foxy2348
    @foxy2348 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    sääänks!

  • @DavenciaBFH
    @DavenciaBFH 9 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Really quick. - 7 min. ...

  • @Thebajmahal21
    @Thebajmahal21 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    siq

  • @swiggityswo0ty883
    @swiggityswo0ty883 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Shield dropping is for scrubs.