People from Adelaide, like all Australians are sports fans first and foremost, and if they get a team that represents them well people will get behind them
The problem is the sport is actually unknown here. At least Melbourne and Perth have expats from the NRL states and NZ but it’s lucky to get 1 headline a month here.
100%. The Rams pulled decent crowds and they didn't even have a proper venue to play out of and it was a rebel comp. They only folded because the comp did. That was nearly 30 years ago. Adelaide has an extra 300k people since then. I think an NRL team in Adelaide would be more successful (off field) than say GWS AFL team in Sydney in their first 10 years.
@@surfstoomuch5750 That was more of a casualty of the Super League war as the then new NRL had to cut clubs from both sides which is why the Gold Coast Chargers also died.
@@Ozwombats The old Western Reds in Perth had the same issue playing out of the WACA for all of their existence. Which is why I see the Western Bears being a success when they come in.
its worth investing your time out of season to watch other sports, like in Basketball the 36ers are undergoing a bit of a semi-rebuild where we're building around 3 mainstay locals, and re-jigging the staff behind the scenes, the Adelaide Giants our baseball team are 2 time champs in the ABL, the Strikers are always a contender and Lloyd Pope is a superstar to watch, and the strikers women's are also two time champs of the WBBL. lots of options outside of just footy to invest your time in if you want to mate.
@@EKV8Productions yeah there's a tonne of sport in adelaide, AFL is the biggest in terms of crowd output per year, funding into grassroots and in watch numbers on TV, but like, the 36ers were crap last year, finished in the bottom 4, didnt make finals but still sold out 7 of their last 7 home games and the reds consistently get 9-11k at home even when they're horrible.
The Dolphins vs. Roosters in Perth brought an attendance of 20 000. If Perth succeeds in the NRL, that could maybe give the SA government a reason to follow suit.
@@erinaporter1985 That's the thing the NRL is in a good place right now. Every team wants to lend a hand in expansion, especially the roosters who sponsored the USA 🇺🇸 U20 hawks and are running the LA roosters team in America. In fact, now American RL has unified to be under USARL as one body after vegas 2024.
To be honest, I think Perth, Christchurch NZ and then Adelaide should be the 3 teams, but there is a push for PNG also, but as much as I'd love that for the country, its just not stable or safe enough in general. They have a lot of issues and we could easily just play a few games up there much like we have done for Perth and Adelaide. I can see a case for another Qld team, but we also need 1-2 less Sydney teams also, but that is almost impossible to do, the NRL just needs a team to go bankrupt or sold and moved. Just not going to happen.
Should be in rectangular stadium, Coopers Stadium, crowd on top of the action, seating about 15,000, same as some Sydney grounds...and yes, same as before, Adelaide Rams!
I live in Adelaide and have zero interest in NRL, but would love to see this. The AFL(VFL!) is so obsessed with outward expansion it is taking for granted and neglecting attention at the grass roots level (in schools, clubs, and stronghold states) and like you say could keep them honest. The Rams escapade was poorly executed, done right it could work and grow. The biggest issue will be having to compete when AFL games are on, but if they were strategic and played at different times (mid week?) it may draw interest. There is a much higher population of expats from NRL areas (NZ, QLD, NSW, Polynesia) living in Adelaide than in the 90s which would certainly make a difference. It would be nice to see the codes move on a bit from the Barassi rivalry and learn to co-habitat, their real competition in the future isn't with each other but from codes abroad.
Very good point about codes abroad! I have a friend who solely follows the NBA .. avidly. I have very rarely heard this point brought up but with the ease with which you can watch any sport, anywhere, anytime these days it is totally valid and important!! 😊
If the NRL truly want to be a national competition, they must come to Adelaide. There’ll be a decent niche market in Adelaide for NRL, that could make it work
A lot of disillusioned AFL fans in Adelaide who love watching State Of Origin, but have no NRL team to follow. Return of the Rams, especially at Hindmarsh Stadium, would get great support!! P.S. .. I am one of those fans!! 🎉🎉
Great point about the Rams first year, the crowds they got were solid - especially considering they were thrown together to make up a 10th team for Superleague. Yes the 2nd year saw a drop-off, but they were on borrowed time when the newly formed NRL was downsizing. There is a latent market there, and the NRL needs to foster it - even if Adelaide aren't team 20, regular games need to be taken there (like how Perth has right now), to grow interest & give people exposure to the game over there.
Mate, I’m with ya! After the Perth team the NRL needs to look at either Christchurch and Adelaide. Also no offence to PNG, but they won’t move the needle. Great video 👍
Adelaide should be the priority. Recent years have proven there is strong support for rugby in SA. It's always going to be an aussie rules town, but the people will definitely get behind the team and the infrastructure is basically already built. If the NRL were smart enough, I think it's an easier and more accepting market too tap into now.
There’s a few cities that would come in close running before Adelaide and Ipswich. Perth and a second team for NZ and VIC would be in the running before SA. Don’t listen to this baseless video.
@@Buddy89538that’s what the video is saying lmao. Clearly you didn’t even watch it. He is saying that *after* Perth and South Island, Adelaide should be next.
A lot of expat Sydneysiders would support an Adelaide team. The Rams is a poor example as many hated the superleague war. They still got some okay crowds in the 1st year at an unsuitable oval ground - Hindmarsh would be a much better option. There are also many Adelaideans who are anti AFL Crows or Port, and could be swayed to an NRL team - perhaps a cross over partnership with AUFC to tie membership to the venue.
Biggest administrative blunder in Australian sport was removing Perth & Adelaide from the NRL. Perth & Sth Island are a legitimate must. PNG will be in the comp whether we like it or not. They won’t struggle financially or for players as RL is so big. If we focus on pathways and development at this point, we will absolutely find some diamonds over there.
I'm a AFL supporter but don't mind NRL and would go to games, so I hope Adelaide does get another chance and yes it has to be played at Hindmarsh Stadium. Great stadium
I’ve always said that to truly nationalised the competition we desperately need teams in Adelaide, Darwin, Hobart and Perth, after all it’s called The “NATIONAL” Rugby League.
Darwin and Hobart and not options for serious professional leagues. It's about population and demographics. Tassie would just call every bloody team they got The devils. I would go for Central Qld and A second New Zealand as next up, but Sydney needs to lose teams as well.
I play rugby and live in Adelaide it is such a long awaited thing as there are enough people who are in a rugby community to get behind the rams, plus people just like sport and it would do much better than the 1997-98 Rams
I’d like to see the Rams comeback especially in a smaller stadium like the bears will have. I think the safest option would be another Brisbane team (Firehawks or Jets). Any option is better and safer than a PNG team. NRL should just send some games up there to appease their govt.
I think a good proof that league can work in any city in Australia is the A-League, whenever Perth or Adelaide has hosted the A-League GF the game's sold out and non soccer fans would still watch on TV and talk about the game in the lead-up Also I feel kinda gaslit over the Polynesian population here, even as someone involved in the church and american football I feel like I barely know any Islanders, it's all South Africans who are watching the Force
Adelaide would be a great market for the NRL. Hindmarsh Stadium would be a great fit and has good transport links. There’s a good chance the SA government would support an NRL team too. Events generate jobs!
I thought I'd go to a pub last night (FRIDAY NIGHT) to enjoy the Storm vs Roosters FINALS game in Adelaide, They closed at 8pm. Didn't even sit through the first half. Probably would've stayed open if it was an AFL Final.
I really like the idea of Adelaide joining the NRL. I agree also in NZ having a second team and Perth getting a team. It would make the competition national and give more opportunities to kids who want to play Rugby League.
What should have happened at the end of super leage is souths should be affiliated with south Australia 1/2 games in s.a and they foster the sport here and Wests should have moved west doing the same as souths ? You know it makes sense 👍
So how will an Adelaide team fair better than the last team? Adelaide Rams were part of the ARL Comp weren’t they before defecting to Super League, along with the Western Reds?
Okay. Read up on Rams and formed for Super League, but entered NRL comp the following year. Still, failure to win resulted in dwindling crowds, does not reflect well on it being well supported.
I lived in Adelaide from 1994-1997 and went back not long ago (my son lived there until recently, my uncle lives there too), can’t see an NRL team doing well there. Also, infrastructure is a problem there, I saw a soccer game at Hindmarsh not long ago, what a bog hole that place is, they’d need to do some serious redevelopment there.
It doesn't need any extra teams they haven't got enough good players now will they give these new teams an exemption to sign players and kill off a team like tiger's there's no juniors in Adelaide
Many people, including Rugby League people said that the Dolphins expansion was rushed. But in what was already a Rugby League city/state it was a fairly safe bet. Perth, Christchurch and Adelaide are not NRL heartland areas and any expansion needs to be carefully planned. The AFL have taken a much more cautious and long term view with their expansion in GWS and Gold Coast as they are not AFL heartland areas.
Should do a video on how the AFL can try and spread its influence more either with the league states of internationally basically get more popular eventually the league will hit a wall as it’s covered the whole country and will need something else if it’s to continue growth and popularity
Adelaide is better option for NRL then expansion in WA or PGA the reasons are simple distance,time zone , support and sponsors base and it will be easier to build junior and reserve teams to attract more youngsters playing League.. If things done correctly Adelaide can become a home for team similar to the Melbourne Storm...
@khankake9576 Half the clubs were either going bust or redundant due to clubs being split into 2 different competitions. It's completely different today. Clubs are profitable, and the NRL is run by smart operators.
If they go to Adelaide they should think of a different name. There already a rams team in the English super league. They should use their imagination and think of something different. Any suggestions? Me I like the Adelaide Reapers and have a Grim Reaper as the mascot.
I remember when the NRL played a State of Origin game here last year and were promoting it with billboards saying “real footy is here” and then couldn’t even sell out Adelaide Oval 💀💀💀 Nobody gives af about league here and if the NRL wants to change that they have to approach it in a whole new mindset to the one they currently have.
Would love to see an Adelaide team again. NRL has a decent following in SA. Roosters played 3 games over 3 years here just before COVID and drew very reasonable crowds (around 18.5K average over the 3 years). There would be a much better atmosphere if the games were played at Hindmarsh Stadium too.
As much as we love our league here, Toowoomba isn't happening anytime soon. I think we'd need to bump up our population by a good 40,000 before we'd be a serious contender.
3:47 if its tax free money thats attractive, And if he get to hang out with your family in a gated community for 8 months i think thats also attractive, but im not against Adelaide rams ethier
No, I don't think they can. This is because the 'Auckland Warriors' became insolvent at some stage after Super League and the 'New Zealand Warriors' replaced them. I remember reading many years ago that the 'Auckland' brand cannot be used.
This ain’t the 90s anymore, I’d say SA as a whole is more open to NRL than ever before. Place them at Coopers Stadium. I’d argue that SA not being in the comp would be a disservice to the NRL. SA also is the centre of Australia so it just makes sense. The sports fans of both Crows/Power will be able to put differences aside ALSO and bat for the Rams every weekend alongside their AFL teams so that in itself is a juicy concept. Ultimately I hope people understand that if you’re gonna gamble then gamble on your own. NRL, don’t be the only professional comp in Australia to not feature SA. One day sooner or later it will just feel wrong that SA aren’t in it. PS: PERTH, CHRISTCHURCH AND ADELAIDE.
If they want a 20 team competition, then for me the best possible scenario would be to relocate one Sydney team to Adelaide and rebrand it as Rams and as a 20th team add a team from Fiji. Fijian government is behind a Fijian bid and that could be really massive, not only for the NRL but entire sport of Rugby League. In the meantime they can help to develop game in PNG so that one day they could have their own team made up from their local players.
Would you really need Australians playing in the PNG team? I think they could muster a team of locals. Maybe supplemented by Tonga/Fiji players? From what I understand RL is very popular in PNG. Can’t ignore the very real social challenges mentioned, however I think PNG may well be a natural fit from a local interest perspective.
The Perth and Adelaide failures in the 1990s are really not as massive as some would lead you to believe, the Reds drew well but had to pay airfares as you've said before, and the Rams were up against the greatest Crows team of all time in their two premiership seasons
That Crows squad was actually quite lucky to have caught a better team that just happened to be having an off-day. Not once, but twice... in a row. But that's kind of off-topic. Bottom line is that yes, the two fluke wins of 97 and 98 hogged all the attention from the Rams. Coupled with the Power being introduced in 97, the Rams didn't stand a chance.
We are too obsessed with AFL, Adelaide had an NRL team and it folded due to the lack of success and dwindling crowds. Not only is SA a Football state first, when its not football season. We're a cricket state
@patrickmilner4149 The lack of success with the Rams was more due to the Super League War and eventual creation of the NRL. Why bother supporting a team when it was clear they were looking to cut clubs down from 20+ to 14? Everyone knew Adelaide would be on the chopping board.
Completely disagree. Besides the fact that the Rams only lasted 2 seasons, not giving them enough time to establish themselves, it was a News Corp decision, because at the end of the 1998 NRL season each of the co-owners had to dump a team. ARL chose to dump the Gold Coast Chargers, News Corp chose Adelaide. Easier for them to dump the new, barely established teams than one of the other 7 which would have caused a shit storm the size of the Rabbitohs backlash
@@raysieelmoNews Corp had already killed the Mariners (no need for 2 Newcastle teams) and after folding the Reds became the Storm, and the rest of the Super League teams were powerhouses so yeah, the Rams were going to be the first ones out. Notice though the mergers and culling happened to the ARL teams when they did the cut down?
People probably said the same thing about the Melbourne Storm. And the Adelaide market is relatively less saturated (per capita) by the AFL than Melbourne.
Ideally yes but I also get the sense that the NRL needs to 'sure up' QLD in particular as it isn't as NRL obsessed as it would like to think it is. At the end of the day they haven't gone into WA and SA for a reason and they have all the information we have.
@@B-tr9kz GWS are a hollow top-down franchise inserted and permanently paid for by the AFL in some incredibly naive goal to hope AF develops some cultural relevance & popularity in western Sydney against the behemoths of RL & soccer. (Which it never will). The NRL doesn't seem to get the same revenue to attempt such naive ventures. Most of the heartland NRL clubs rely on gambling dens: so-called "Leagues clubs", to try to create some additional revenue.
@@mikespearwood3914 The NRL made over 50 million in profit last year off revenue in excess of 700 million dollars. If they really wanted to, they could do something similar to the AFL. However, the NRL are looking at bids that wont require that sort of funding that GWS and Gold Coast require from the AFL. I don't think (or want) an Adelaide NRL team will happen as there are better places to go first, but its definitely possible if they wanted to.
@@B-tr9kz The point I'm making is that if no local/national/international business interests are owning this franchise, then it's completely unrealistic to assume the NRL would be the sole proprietor of said new franchise for Adelaide. The NRL just don't get the revenue the AFL gets; with vastly smaller crowds at suburban stadiums that they're currently screaming for NSW government (taxpayers!) to pay for renovations/redevelopment. The new Auckland A-League franchise coming in this year has an American billionaire owning it. An Adelaide NRL franchise would need something similar to be remotely viable as a thing.
There is no history of rugby leauge to speak of. If the NRL truley wished to be national it should have stsrted 40 years ago. It really needs to centre its thoughts on getting decent crowds to there stadiums. Some have max capacity as small as 15000 ppl and they are not full!
This is purely hypothetical as stated in the description of the video. Purely to create speculation and misinformation. Perth, VIC and NZ are all in the running for teams before any SA team.
Wait why would VIC get a 2nd team? The Storm don't get anywhere close to selling out the ground even though they are the most successful club in the modern era. There's no demand for a 2nd one there
@@joshanderson9391 it’s not about selling tickets at games it’s about marketing and advertising. VIC is a perfect platform for a 2nd team as it ticks all the boxes for game scheduling, PR. A second team would create a local derby rivalry and that’s a feast for NRL and Victorians love local rivalries in sport.
@@Buddy89538 but what are you suggesting? a regional team like ballarat wouldn't work too small of a market and a second melbourne team just draws support away from the storm, your idea for a 2nd vic team is not a good idea, Adelaide makes a lot more sense.
@@davidpickford. where did you get regional team from? It would have to be a second Melbourne metro team. Do the Sydney roosters draw supporters away from the other 6 sydney teams? A second Melbourne team is 100 times smarter than any Adelaide team. Victoria also has the hunger for sport and it’s easier to market a home rivalry and that’s a feast for NRL marketing and advertising. NRL is a business and a second team in VIC is better for business than any Adelaide team.
Local South Australian here, I'm going to be very frank when I say I have zero interest in the NRL at the moment. Having said that, if a team was based here and gathered some hype or some on field form, I think they would gather a small but loyal supporter base. Rugby league, rugby union and to a lesser degree soccer could all do better to hold games here and expose SA to these sports more often. We are an Aussie rules state through and through but how much of that is due to being too often ignored by other codes.
This push for the NRL to become truly national is sheer folly and a recipe for disaster. An Adelaide team is akin to the GWS in the AFL. A speculative investment in territory with no roots or demand. The Crows and Port are very powerful and dominant franchises in the city/state and basically run the place. Everything in Adelaide is geared around the 2 teams. They are in the DNA of everyone who lives there and that ain't changing
Sorry No. Not enough talent. Look at it currently. Tigers can’t get it together. Saints are only do okay because of a coach. Broncos are hit and miss. Same as Canberra, Souths Parra. NZ Warriors. Dolphins (and they have Bennett!!!) If anything the NRL should amalgamate a few teams. But that will NEVER happen. V’Landy might be making promises solely of revenue- he clearly doesn’t have the game soul at heart. There is too much average talent getting paid too much money playing average games on TV every week for the comp to expand. Besides - who is going to coach them. That’s another department which is lacking in talent. Benji is a proven poor coach. Ryles at Parra will end in tears. And so on… And so on. 16 teams - MAX. The super league drama nearly cocked up the whole thing. There was a lesson in there.
png is not a good idea. who wants to play in a crime ravaged city like port moresby...? adelaide is a possibility... id go with a second new kiwi team. the 18th team.... perth the 19th team.... christchurch the 20th team.... wellington or a second auckland team. there is a lot bigger market to capture in nz compared with adelaide. the kiwi teams would be a much lower financial risk for the nrl.
I want to see a team in Adelaide for the same reason I don't want to see a team on the Central Coast: they need to grow the game. Bit of background for context: I am a former Croweater living on the Coast. While it would be good to see a team here, there are already 10 teams between Newy and the Gong. A team on the Coast would be set up for failure competing in a crowded market. I have always wondered what the game would be like if the Reds hadn't folded and the Rams been closed by News Corp (yes, it wasn't that they went under, News Corp chose to close them). Yes, I have heard the arguments ad-bloody-nausium: it isnt a league town its an AFL one, the player pool isn't big enough. If you dont give it a chance (Rams only had 2 seasons), it won't catch on. Melbourne is the birth place of Aussie Rules yet the Storm get decent support. And also by going into new markets like Adelaide and Perth you encourage players to take up the game, expanding the pool, instead of tapping the well over and over again like they have been doing by readmitting the Bunnies and adding the Titans and Dolphins. Hell, dropping a second team in Melbourne would have boosted the game more than going back time and time again like the NRL have. The AFL has brought in fresh players from NSW and Qld by their expansions, why hasn't the NRL done the same in the opposite direction?
Ok boomer, As opposed to testicle biting and the racist game? One of the greatest indigenous players to ever play fumbleball now wants nothing to do with it after he was racially vilified out of the sport. And countless racism scandals since.
We should have all these there is no reason why not given enough time north Sydney bears playing out of north Sydney and central coats Perth miners navy blue and gold ⛏️ Christchurch kea Adelaide ravens black red yellow South Brisbane lions(east tigers) playing at the Gabba brown yellow Darwin crocs blue and orange Hobart blue younger blue maroon
You'll be lucky to find anyone here that knows there are two Rugby codes let alone watches any of them. We had a Federal Sports Minister who didn't know what the major sport is in half her own country. The NRL and AFL are not NATIONAL sports and never will be. Just have a look at the ACTUAL TV ratings for AFL in Sydney and Brisbane. Australians just don't like Australian sports.
I think it is likely a Sydney team will be relocated to Adelaide which will maintain the number of teams in the NRL.Cronulla and South Sydney do come to mind
@@limcako41 Why would two financially sound clubs relocate? If Adelaide had to have a relocated Sydney team it should be a merger with the old Newtown Jets.
@@peterkehoe481 Good point but I think the aim is to further reduce the number of Sydney teams.South Sydney is in a limited area and they wouldn't have to change their name too much.Cronulla is hemmed in by St George/Illawarra and can't grow territory wise
@@limcako41 As a lifelong Cronulla fan, why should we relocate to improve the shitshow that is the Dragons? It makes more sense for that club to be based permanently fulltime in Wollongong. The St George junior league is now a sick joke due to the mass demographic changes in that area (the Chinese community has pretty much taken over the main parts of the St George area). 99% of the Dragons playing base is now Illawarra Steelers juniors. It'd make more sense for the Dragons to be based in Wollongong fulltime and for the remaining St George juniors to absorbed into the Cronulla & Canterbury junior systems.
What’s the point ? It’s just the same 3 teams year after Le year panthers storm roosters and forget the rest.., what the NRL needs is a draft thr salary cap doesn’t work contests don’t work nrl is broken. The only dumb sport in the world where player signings happen mid season or a year in advance it’s a joke AFL at least Richmond had success for a few years before being pathetic again, the wests tigers will never have this because of the pathetic nrl system
Putting an NRL side in Adelaide is as unrealistic as putting an AFL franchise in NZ. Nobody will care enough about the sport to consistently show up year after year. Once the novelty value wears off, people will gradually lose interest (like the Rams & Western Reds before). The only hope would be an NRL draft or guaranteed access to heartland talent (like the Storm has) to guarantee Storm-like perennial success/competitiveness. Also, a massive demographic shift of expat New Southers & Queenslanders (which they currently don't seem to have) & migrant kiwis/miscellaneous PI's & their kids (which they don't seem to have either) to Adelaide would be needed to have some decent grassroots interest in the sport. Both rugby codes have reasonable support in Perth & Melbourne because they seem to get a significant amount of these said demographics to at least have a solid grassroots base.
@mikespearwood3914 I get what you're saying, but setting up an NRL team in Adelaide makes far more sense than an AFL side in Auckland, let's say. Adelaide has a better time zone, domestic flights, and existing infrastructure. The late 90s were a different time for Rugby League. There was the Super League War and then eventual merger of the 2 codes that put a lot of clubs on the chopping block, from old to new. A lot of fans left the game during that time.
@@raysieelmo Yes, but RL needs more players and has next to little cultural relevance outside of NSW, QLD & ACT. They just don't seem to get any professional players from WA, SA, VIC & TAS: heartland AFL states. They (ironically!) don't seem to get any professional players from a heartland like PNG, and seem to be increasingly reliant on getting more NZ/PI players to help fill these gaps of the massive lack of pro talent from the previously mentioned demographics to help fill up the squads of 17 pro franchises.
@@mikespearwood3914 tbh RL needs to invest in grassroots in adelaide, pretty sure there are like 5 club teams here whereas there are probably millions in queensland and nsw.
I’ve lived in SA my whole life and I can count on one hand the people I’ve met that have any interest in Rugby. There’s no chance that an SA team would work
@@limcako41Whilst the Storm are quite successful on field they still really don’t have any relevance on the sporting culture in Melbourne outside of expats from other states and islanders.
Have the Rams come back and play at Hindmarsh, it would be a great atmosphere! 12,000 at Hindmarsh would be exciting for fans and TV, but 12,000 at AO would not be a good look at all! It's a strong AFL city here, and most people don't know the difference between League and Union. The NRL would need to be here for the long haul to grow support for the game.
I don't think Hindmarsh has the right dimensions for NRL. There's no room for an endzone or whatever you call it. I know the Rams played there for a short period but compromises were made and the ground has been redeveloped since then anyway with a fixed field size. It would would a good trigger to redevelop a third venue. Perhaps the athletics stadium.
They won't go to Adelaide. To be honest I'm not even sure they would be considered if the competition went to 22 teams. In my view: Perth will be 18. They already sell out NRL games and State of Origin. They have the backing of the WA government. It will be a success there. PNG will be 19. Both federal governments want it to happen and the NRL gets government investment in player development in the country. It will help increase the player pool of the competition and gives 10-20 million people their own team. Security is really my only big worry here. Christchurch will be 20. NZ are falling in love with the Warriors atm and another team helps boost both them and the sport in the country. Gives the Warriors a rival and helps development in the South island. The new roofed stadium is a bonus. You then have: Ipswich/Western Corridor. Shores up Rugby League in the region and hurts the AFL as they are trying to make inroads into the area. Sunshine Coast. The Dolphins sort of cover this area but with the rapid growth the area is receiving, they will be big enough for their own team sooner than later. 2nd Melbourne. Gives the Storm a local rival and reinforces the NRLs plan to grow into Victoria. (Much like GWS is with Sydney) Central Coast. Fast growing area without an NRL team currently. NRL heartland through and through. Wellington. Another NZ team that shores up the country and gives NZ three teams. Pacific Island team. I don't see this happening but its always a possibility. Covers Fiji, Samoa, Tonga, Cook Islands etc.
Where's all the money coming from for all these franchises??!! Are there unlimited billionaires around to fund them, or governments keen to splash the cash??!!
@@mikespearwood3914depends what model you want to go with. Private ownership is very common in the NRL. The recent expansion team are backed by the Dolphins leagues club.
Adelaide (Rams), Perth (Reds hopefully), and South Island just makes perfect sense for expansion. Plus Adelaide will get a lot of tourists from East Coast fly over for a weekend to watch a game.
I don't know about a standalone team in Adelaide. I am not against it, however, you have got to be kidding regarding the criticism of a PNG NRL team. The negative commentary in this video about PNG not offering the NRL competition anything is millions of miles off the mark: 1. An untapped, potentially MASSIVE player pipeline waiting to be developed to not just service the PNG NRL team, but to flood the NRL player market with quality players to benefit ALL NRL clubs. 2. A membership base of, reportedly, up to 1 million members. We are talking about the potential for tens of millions of dollars in revenue before they sell a single sponsorship or a season pass. 3. More than 5000 businesses are operating in PNG. 4. More than 60,000 expatriate workers, most of whom are from Australia, are based in PNG. Additionally, 10,000 or more Australians reside in PNG at any given time. 5. Watch NRL app subscription numbers will explode with a PNG team. 6. The enormous benefits of a more competitive PNG Kumuls national team to the annual NRL Pacific Championships with a proper pathway program to develop PNG players to NRL standard. The Pacific Championships may well become comparable to the annual Six Nations Rugby tournament in Europe in the future if PNG are capable of beating the Kiwis, Tonga, Samoa and Kangaroos. This could result in even more TV revenue for the game.
Don't waste time on Adelaide it will fail. PNG also a waste of time I agree. Perth for sure yes there are a lot of Kiwis over here for mining also a lot of east coasters like myself here for the same reason. The problem with the NRL is it's shocking at promoting games outside of Brisbane and Sydney. I live in Perth and you wouldn't have Known the Dolphins played the Roosters here last week I found out by mistake a day before.
Adelaide is just too different than other cities. They're all academics. And whoever isn't an academic is a Port Adelaide gronk obsessed with AFL. As much as I'd like it to, an NRL team in Adelaide simply wouldn't work.
People from Adelaide, like all Australians are sports fans first and foremost, and if they get a team that represents them well people will get behind them
@@mootfm1107 we follow AFL cricket Soccer I don't think there will be an audience for NRL here in Adelaide sorry
@@EKV8Productions soccer really,no one cares 😂😂😂
The problem is the sport is actually unknown here. At least Melbourne and Perth have expats from the NRL states and NZ but it’s lucky to get 1 headline a month here.
Agree with you having summer and winter teams at Coopers stadium would be nice
100%. The Rams pulled decent crowds and they didn't even have a proper venue to play out of and it was a rebel comp. They only folded because the comp did. That was nearly 30 years ago. Adelaide has an extra 300k people since then. I think an NRL team in Adelaide would be more successful (off field) than say GWS AFL team in Sydney in their first 10 years.
People forget that the year the Adelaide rams got kicked out of the comp they had the 2nd biggest average crowd attendance in the comp .
@@surfstoomuch5750 That was more of a casualty of the Super League war as the then new NRL had to cut clubs from both sides which is why the Gold Coast Chargers also died.
@@peterkehoe481 You are correct. I mentioned the crowds because people are saying that there is no interest in NRL in Adelaide .
There is a novelty factor there with a new team. But yes very good crowds, especially playing out of a cricket ground mostly.
@@Ozwombats The old Western Reds in Perth had the same issue playing out of the WACA for all of their existence. Which is why I see the Western Bears being a success when they come in.
I hope we do get a rugby league team here again in Adelaide. It sucks only having an AFL team to follow when the Crows suck (which is most years)
Just chose the wrong club that’s all 😊
@@Geography1590 come on Power
its worth investing your time out of season to watch other sports, like in Basketball the 36ers are undergoing a bit of a semi-rebuild where we're building around 3 mainstay locals, and re-jigging the staff behind the scenes, the Adelaide Giants our baseball team are 2 time champs in the ABL, the Strikers are always a contender and Lloyd Pope is a superstar to watch, and the strikers women's are also two time champs of the WBBL. lots of options outside of just footy to invest your time in if you want to mate.
@@griteom4538 you forgot Adelaide500&TDU cycling as well As Adelaide International tennis might be interesting. I love BBL
@@EKV8Productions yeah there's a tonne of sport in adelaide, AFL is the biggest in terms of crowd output per year, funding into grassroots and in watch numbers on TV, but like, the 36ers were crap last year, finished in the bottom 4, didnt make finals but still sold out 7 of their last 7 home games and the reds consistently get 9-11k at home even when they're horrible.
The Dolphins vs. Roosters in Perth brought an attendance of 20 000. If Perth succeeds in the NRL, that could maybe give the SA government a reason to follow suit.
If a new Perth team comes along and wins a few games and is a success, all Adelaide will be saying is "where do I sign?"
@@erinaporter1985 That's the thing the NRL is in a good place right now. Every team wants to lend a hand in expansion, especially the roosters who sponsored the USA 🇺🇸 U20 hawks and are running the LA roosters team in America. In fact, now American RL has unified to be under USARL as one body after vegas 2024.
To be honest, I think Perth, Christchurch NZ and then Adelaide should be the 3 teams, but there is a push for PNG also, but as much as I'd love that for the country, its just not stable or safe enough in general. They have a lot of issues and we could easily just play a few games up there much like we have done for Perth and Adelaide.
I can see a case for another Qld team, but we also need 1-2 less Sydney teams also, but that is almost impossible to do, the NRL just needs a team to go bankrupt or sold and moved. Just not going to happen.
Should be in rectangular stadium, Coopers Stadium, crowd on top of the action, seating about 15,000, same as some Sydney grounds...and yes, same as before, Adelaide Rams!
I live in Adelaide and have zero interest in NRL, but would love to see this. The AFL(VFL!) is so obsessed with outward expansion it is taking for granted and neglecting attention at the grass roots level (in schools, clubs, and stronghold states) and like you say could keep them honest. The Rams escapade was poorly executed, done right it could work and grow. The biggest issue will be having to compete when AFL games are on, but if they were strategic and played at different times (mid week?) it may draw interest. There is a much higher population of expats from NRL areas (NZ, QLD, NSW, Polynesia) living in Adelaide than in the 90s which would certainly make a difference.
It would be nice to see the codes move on a bit from the Barassi rivalry and learn to co-habitat, their real competition in the future isn't with each other but from codes abroad.
Very good point about codes abroad! I have a friend who solely follows the NBA .. avidly.
I have very rarely heard this point brought up but with the ease with which you can watch any sport, anywhere, anytime these days it is totally valid and important!! 😊
If the NRL truly want to be a national competition, they must come to Adelaide.
There’ll be a decent niche market in Adelaide for NRL, that could make it work
A lot of disillusioned AFL fans in Adelaide who love watching State Of Origin, but have no NRL team to follow. Return of the Rams, especially at Hindmarsh Stadium, would get great support!!
P.S. .. I am one of those fans!! 🎉🎉
Does Hindmarsh stadium have the dimensions to accommodate the in-goal area of an NRL field? Looking at the photos, I think not.
Great point about the Rams first year, the crowds they got were solid - especially considering they were thrown together to make up a 10th team for Superleague. Yes the 2nd year saw a drop-off, but they were on borrowed time when the newly formed NRL was downsizing. There is a latent market there, and the NRL needs to foster it - even if Adelaide aren't team 20, regular games need to be taken there (like how Perth has right now), to grow interest & give people exposure to the game over there.
Mate, I’m with ya!
After the Perth team the NRL needs to look at either Christchurch and Adelaide.
Also no offence to PNG, but they won’t move the needle.
Great video 👍
As an ex Sydneysider that now lives in Adelaide, I'd be fully behind an Adelaide NRL team.
Would love to see a team in Adelaide.
as a crom fan, same.
Adelaide should be the priority. Recent years have proven there is strong support for rugby in SA. It's always going to be an aussie rules town, but the people will definitely get behind the team and the infrastructure is basically already built. If the NRL were smart enough, I think it's an easier and more accepting market too tap into now.
Perth, Adelaide and then Christchurch. I don’t think PNG should be a consideration.
@@matis9118 Agreed
I’d have Adelaide in before PNG based on the fact it isn’t a third world country
I would however choose Ipswich over both options
There’s a few cities that would come in close running before Adelaide and Ipswich. Perth and a second team for NZ and VIC would be in the running before SA. Don’t listen to this baseless video.
the last 2 expansions have been in south east queensland.......Ipswich doesn't need a team it's not a big enough market anyway.
@@Buddy89538that’s what the video is saying lmao. Clearly you didn’t even watch it. He is saying that *after* Perth and South Island, Adelaide should be next.
@@randomguy568 yeah look Adelaide shouldn’t even be in the mix.
@@Buddy89538 Second VIC? What's the point when the Storm don't even produce their own juniors. Adelaide has to have a team in the competition.
A lot of expat Sydneysiders would support an Adelaide team. The Rams is a poor example as many hated the superleague war. They still got some okay crowds in the 1st year at an unsuitable oval ground - Hindmarsh would be a much better option. There are also many Adelaideans who are anti AFL Crows or Port, and could be swayed to an NRL team - perhaps a cross over partnership with AUFC to tie membership to the venue.
There is allot of Polynesian people and New Zealanders in Tassie and a decent amount off Brit’s in the state as well
Biggest administrative blunder in Australian sport was removing Perth & Adelaide from the NRL. Perth & Sth Island are a legitimate must. PNG will be in the comp whether we like it or not. They won’t struggle financially or for players as RL is so big. If we focus on pathways and development at this point, we will absolutely find some diamonds over there.
Yes! This is what I wanted to see Pivot!
I'm a AFL supporter but don't mind NRL and would go to games, so I hope Adelaide does get another chance and yes it has to be played at Hindmarsh Stadium. Great stadium
Perth, Adelaide and Christchurch. Easy, should work.
I’ve always said that to truly nationalised the competition we desperately need teams in Adelaide, Darwin, Hobart and Perth, after all it’s called The “NATIONAL” Rugby League.
Hobart won't happen within our lifetime. Look how long it's taken the AFL and that's AFL heartland.
Why a team in NZ then?
@@mikespearwood3914 Was that reply to me?
@@joshski85 Nah, the original commenter who's being pedantic about the word "national".
Darwin and Hobart and not options for serious professional leagues. It's about population and demographics. Tassie would just call every bloody team they got The devils. I would go for Central Qld and A second New Zealand as next up, but Sydney needs to lose teams as well.
I play rugby and live in Adelaide it is such a long awaited thing as there are enough people who are in a rugby community to get behind the rams, plus people just like sport and it would do much better than the 1997-98 Rams
I’d like to see the Rams comeback especially in a smaller stadium like the bears will have. I think the safest option would be another Brisbane team (Firehawks or Jets). Any option is better and safer than a PNG team.
NRL should just send some games up there to appease their govt.
I think a good proof that league can work in any city in Australia is the A-League, whenever Perth or Adelaide has hosted the A-League GF the game's sold out and non soccer fans would still watch on TV and talk about the game in the lead-up
Also I feel kinda gaslit over the Polynesian population here, even as someone involved in the church and american football I feel like I barely know any Islanders, it's all South Africans who are watching the Force
2:03 super rugby?
yes I propose that the South Australian bid be based in Snowtown, it's a killer idea.
Adelaide would be a great market for the NRL. Hindmarsh Stadium would be a great fit and has good transport links. There’s a good chance the SA government would support an NRL team too. Events generate jobs!
I thought I'd go to a pub last night (FRIDAY NIGHT) to enjoy the Storm vs Roosters FINALS game in Adelaide, They closed at 8pm. Didn't even sit through the first half. Probably would've stayed open if it was an AFL Final.
I really like the idea of Adelaide joining the NRL. I agree also in NZ having a second team and Perth getting a team. It would make the competition national and give more opportunities to kids who want to play Rugby League.
Hey man Perth bears have been confirmed today, could you make a vid about that?
I bet the NRL does not demand a Roofed Stadium for the Adelaide Rams like the AFL is doing with Tasmania.
What should have happened at the end of super leage is souths should be affiliated with south Australia 1/2 games in s.a and they foster the sport here and Wests should have moved west doing the same as souths ? You know it makes sense 👍
@@Mac-jx8uj The bonus is they can keep their names
@@limcako41 exactly 💯%
So how will an Adelaide team fair better than the last team? Adelaide Rams were part of the ARL Comp weren’t they before defecting to Super League, along with the Western Reds?
Okay. Read up on Rams and formed for Super League, but entered NRL comp the following year. Still, failure to win resulted in dwindling crowds, does not reflect well on it being well supported.
I lived in Adelaide from 1994-1997 and went back not long ago (my son lived there until recently, my uncle lives there too), can’t see an NRL team doing well there. Also, infrastructure is a problem there, I saw a soccer game at Hindmarsh not long ago, what a bog hole that place is, they’d need to do some serious redevelopment there.
It doesn't need any extra teams they haven't got enough good players now will they give these new teams an exemption to sign players and kill off a team like tiger's there's no juniors in Adelaide
Many people, including Rugby League people said that the Dolphins expansion was rushed. But in what was already a Rugby League city/state it was a fairly safe bet. Perth, Christchurch and Adelaide are not NRL heartland areas and any expansion needs to be carefully planned. The AFL have taken a much more cautious and long term view with their expansion in GWS and Gold Coast as they are not AFL heartland areas.
Hindmarsh is problematic because it's not long enough. No run-off behind the try lines
No different than literally every Super League ground.
I believe the png bid is officially going in to 2 months
Should do a video on how the AFL can try and spread its influence more either with the league states of internationally basically get more popular eventually the league will hit a wall as it’s covered the whole country and will need something else if it’s to continue growth and popularity
Adelaide is better option for NRL then expansion in WA or PGA the reasons are simple distance,time zone , support and sponsors base and it will be easier to build junior and reserve teams to attract more youngsters playing League..
If things done correctly Adelaide can become a home for team similar to the Melbourne Storm...
NRL started with 20 teams in 1998, it didn't work, why go back to this format?
You left out a little thing called the Super League war which nearly killed the game in the country.
@khankake9576 Half the clubs were either going bust or redundant due to clubs being split into 2 different competitions.
It's completely different today. Clubs are profitable, and the NRL is run by smart operators.
I don't understand why the NRL sees Papua New Guinea as a more viable option than Adelaide. It just doesn't make sense to me.
My choice for the expansion teams would be
* Perth
* 2nd kiwi team
* Combined Png/ Cairns team
A combined PNG/Cairns team would have no soul and would benefit neither city, nor the NRL.
If they go to Adelaide they should think of a different name. There already a rams team in the English super league. They should use their imagination and think of something different. Any suggestions? Me I like the Adelaide Reapers and have a Grim Reaper as the mascot.
The Adelaide U- Boats, why?
It's a good reference to being south of Australia and having a submarine as a logo would be bad ass.
Rams in England SL? What you talking about.
In 2027 Perth bears and PNG Will be new teams
I'm from Adelaide and I barrack for the mighty Canterbury Bulldogs
I remember when the NRL played a State of Origin game here last year and were promoting it with billboards saying “real footy is here” and then couldn’t even sell out Adelaide Oval 💀💀💀
Nobody gives af about league here and if the NRL wants to change that they have to approach it in a whole new mindset to the one they currently have.
17 Current teams 3 more teams 1 from Perth 1 From Adelaide and another from New Zealand
Would love to see an Adelaide team again. NRL has a decent following in SA. Roosters played 3 games over 3 years here just before COVID and drew very reasonable crowds (around 18.5K average over the 3 years). There would be a much better atmosphere if the games were played at Hindmarsh Stadium too.
Ringland. App.
Would have thought Wellington would be a better choice, so 3 NZ teams when they get to 20.
As much as we love our league here, Toowoomba isn't happening anytime soon. I think we'd need to bump up our population by a good 40,000 before we'd be a serious contender.
Only contracted years ago for super league
3:47 if its tax free money thats attractive, And if he get to hang out with your family in a gated community for 8 months i think thats also attractive, but im not against Adelaide rams ethier
well argued
If they get a south island kias will the warriors revert back to Auckland warriors instead of NZ?
No, I don't think they can. This is because the 'Auckland Warriors' became insolvent at some stage after Super League and the 'New Zealand Warriors' replaced them. I remember reading many years ago that the 'Auckland' brand cannot be used.
This ain’t the 90s anymore, I’d say SA as a whole is more open to NRL than ever before.
Place them at Coopers Stadium.
I’d argue that SA not being in the comp would be a disservice to the NRL.
SA also is the centre of Australia so it just makes sense.
The sports fans of both Crows/Power will be able to put differences aside ALSO and bat for the Rams every weekend alongside their AFL teams so that in itself is a juicy concept.
Ultimately I hope people understand that if you’re gonna gamble then gamble on your own.
NRL, don’t be the only professional comp in Australia to not feature SA. One day sooner or later it will just feel wrong that SA aren’t in it.
PS:
PERTH, CHRISTCHURCH AND ADELAIDE.
If they want a 20 team competition, then for me the best possible scenario would be to relocate one Sydney team to Adelaide and rebrand it as Rams and as a 20th team add a team from Fiji. Fijian government is behind a Fijian bid and that could be really massive, not only for the NRL but entire sport of Rugby League. In the meantime they can help to develop game in PNG so that one day they could have their own team made up from their local players.
South Sydney or Cronulla look like the teams to be relocated
@@limcako41Cronulla Maybe Souths Never
@@jacobjgleggy1854But how long will Russell Crowe and Peter Holmes A 'Court continue with their money?
there's not many that follow it here, butl like anytning in adl we'll get behind it
Would you really need Australians playing in the PNG team? I think they could muster a team of locals. Maybe supplemented by Tonga/Fiji players? From what I understand RL is very popular in PNG.
Can’t ignore the very real social challenges mentioned, however I think PNG may well be a natural fit from a local interest perspective.
As long as they are called the Rams. Anything else would be a disappointment
The Perth and Adelaide failures in the 1990s are really not as massive as some would lead you to believe, the Reds drew well but had to pay airfares as you've said before, and the Rams were up against the greatest Crows team of all time in their two premiership seasons
That Crows squad was actually quite lucky to have caught a better team that just happened to be having an off-day. Not once, but twice... in a row. But that's kind of off-topic. Bottom line is that yes, the two fluke wins of 97 and 98 hogged all the attention from the Rams. Coupled with the Power being introduced in 97, the Rams didn't stand a chance.
Western Reds, now Perth Pirates and Adelaide Rams
I was thinking NZ needs two teams but maybe Adelaide should come before that. It looks like Perth and PNG are foregone conclusions.
Is there a market in Darwin?
Not even half a million live in NT.
@@sportydude9337lmao Afl is the only code that can even try that
Thousands upon thousands of South Africans in Perth too.
I would imagine that most of them would be Force supporters
Ringleader western. Times
Adelaide will need a rectangular 22,000 stadium like Melbourne has would be 👍 also you could use it for an 2nd soccer ⚽️ ground
We are too obsessed with AFL, Adelaide had an NRL team and it folded due to the lack of success and dwindling crowds. Not only is SA a Football state first, when its not football season. We're a cricket state
@patrickmilner4149 The lack of success with the Rams was more due to the Super League War and eventual creation of the NRL. Why bother supporting a team when it was clear they were looking to cut clubs down from 20+ to 14? Everyone knew Adelaide would be on the chopping board.
Get your facts right , Adelaide had the biggest crowds but the NRL screwed them , trying researching next time
Completely disagree. Besides the fact that the Rams only lasted 2 seasons, not giving them enough time to establish themselves, it was a News Corp decision, because at the end of the 1998 NRL season each of the co-owners had to dump a team. ARL chose to dump the Gold Coast Chargers, News Corp chose Adelaide. Easier for them to dump the new, barely established teams than one of the other 7 which would have caused a shit storm the size of the Rabbitohs backlash
@@raysieelmoNews Corp had already killed the Mariners (no need for 2 Newcastle teams) and after folding the Reds became the Storm, and the rest of the Super League teams were powerhouses so yeah, the Rams were going to be the first ones out.
Notice though the mergers and culling happened to the ARL teams when they did the cut down?
People probably said the same thing about the Melbourne Storm. And the Adelaide market is relatively less saturated (per capita) by the AFL than Melbourne.
I reckon get south west Brisbane team in and get the rivalries going!
Ideally yes but I also get the sense that the NRL needs to 'sure up' QLD in particular as it isn't as NRL obsessed as it would like to think it is. At the end of the day they haven't gone into WA and SA for a reason and they have all the information we have.
That would cannibalize the
Phins and Cowboys, we've seen what happened with the Broncos losing Herby and Flagler.
Adelaide mainly likes AFL not Rugby Adelaide enjoys state of Origin I don't understand your point of word
Western Sydney and Sydney in general mainly likes NRL and Soccer but that hasn't stopped the AFL from forcing a team there. Just saying.
@@B-tr9kz GWS are a hollow top-down franchise inserted and permanently paid for by the AFL in some incredibly naive goal to hope AF develops some cultural relevance & popularity in western Sydney against the behemoths of RL & soccer. (Which it never will).
The NRL doesn't seem to get the same revenue to attempt such naive ventures. Most of the heartland NRL clubs rely on gambling dens: so-called "Leagues clubs", to try to create some additional revenue.
@@mikespearwood3914 The NRL made over 50 million in profit last year off revenue in excess of 700 million dollars. If they really wanted to, they could do something similar to the AFL. However, the NRL are looking at bids that wont require that sort of funding that GWS and Gold Coast require from the AFL.
I don't think (or want) an Adelaide NRL team will happen as there are better places to go first, but its definitely possible if they wanted to.
@@B-tr9kz The point I'm making is that if no local/national/international business interests are owning this franchise, then it's completely unrealistic to assume the NRL would be the sole proprietor of said new franchise for Adelaide. The NRL just don't get the revenue the AFL gets; with vastly smaller crowds at suburban stadiums that they're currently screaming for NSW government (taxpayers!) to pay for renovations/redevelopment.
The new Auckland A-League franchise coming in this year has an American billionaire owning it. An Adelaide NRL franchise would need something similar to be remotely viable as a thing.
Rugby league doesn't need to be the most supported sport in Adelaide but even if they get 20% of the city to follow the team that's 275,000 people.
I would think rugby union if they started back the NRC Adelaide would be much better for that
In regards to the tv rights a team in New Guinea makes far more sense than Adelaide due to the time difference.
Just call them Hahndorf and I’m sure Adelaide would be in lol!
There is no history of rugby leauge to speak of. If the NRL truley wished to be national it should have stsrted 40 years ago. It really needs to centre its thoughts on getting decent crowds to there stadiums. Some have max capacity as small as 15000 ppl and they are not full!
This is purely hypothetical as stated in the description of the video. Purely to create speculation and misinformation. Perth, VIC and NZ are all in the running for teams before any SA team.
Wait why would VIC get a 2nd team? The Storm don't get anywhere close to selling out the ground even though they are the most successful club in the modern era. There's no demand for a 2nd one there
@@joshanderson9391 it’s not about selling tickets at games it’s about marketing and advertising. VIC is a perfect platform for a 2nd team as it ticks all the boxes for game scheduling, PR. A second team would create a local derby rivalry and that’s a feast for NRL and Victorians love local rivalries in sport.
@@Buddy89538 but what are you suggesting? a regional team like ballarat wouldn't work too small of a market and a second melbourne team just draws support away from the storm, your idea for a 2nd vic team is not a good idea, Adelaide makes a lot more sense.
@@davidpickford. where did you get regional team from? It would have to be a second Melbourne metro team. Do the Sydney roosters draw supporters away from the other 6 sydney teams? A second Melbourne team is 100 times smarter than any Adelaide team. Victoria also has the hunger for sport and it’s easier to market a home rivalry and that’s a feast for NRL marketing and advertising. NRL is a business and a second team in VIC is better for business than any Adelaide team.
Local South Australian here, I'm going to be very frank when I say I have zero interest in the NRL at the moment. Having said that, if a team was based here and gathered some hype or some on field form, I think they would gather a small but loyal supporter base.
Rugby league, rugby union and to a lesser degree soccer could all do better to hold games here and expose SA to these sports more often.
We are an Aussie rules state through and through but how much of that is due to being too often ignored by other codes.
A Socceroo's World Cup Qualifier against China in October at Adelaide Oval has already sold out
Adelaide Jets
This push for the NRL to become truly national is sheer folly and a recipe for disaster. An Adelaide team is akin to the GWS in the AFL. A speculative investment in territory with no roots or demand. The Crows and Port are very powerful and dominant franchises in the city/state and basically run the place. Everything in Adelaide is geared around the 2 teams. They are in the DNA of everyone who lives there and that ain't changing
Rams is perfect name for a league team.
Sorry No.
Not enough talent.
Look at it currently.
Tigers can’t get it together. Saints are only do okay because of a coach.
Broncos are hit and miss. Same as Canberra, Souths Parra. NZ Warriors. Dolphins (and they have Bennett!!!)
If anything the NRL should amalgamate a few teams.
But that will NEVER happen.
V’Landy might be making promises solely of revenue- he clearly doesn’t have the game soul at heart.
There is too much average talent getting paid too much money playing average games on TV every week for the comp to expand.
Besides - who is going to coach them.
That’s another department which is lacking in talent.
Benji is a proven poor coach.
Ryles at Parra will end in tears.
And so on… And so on.
16 teams - MAX.
The super league drama nearly cocked up the whole thing.
There was a lesson in there.
png is not a good idea.
who wants to play in a crime ravaged city like port moresby...?
adelaide is a possibility...
id go with a second new kiwi team.
the 18th team.... perth
the 19th team.... christchurch
the 20th team.... wellington or a second auckland team.
there is a lot bigger market to capture in nz compared with adelaide. the kiwi teams would be a much lower financial risk for the nrl.
I want to see a team in Adelaide for the same reason I don't want to see a team on the Central Coast: they need to grow the game.
Bit of background for context: I am a former Croweater living on the Coast. While it would be good to see a team here, there are already 10 teams between Newy and the Gong. A team on the Coast would be set up for failure competing in a crowded market.
I have always wondered what the game would be like if the Reds hadn't folded and the Rams been closed by News Corp (yes, it wasn't that they went under, News Corp chose to close them).
Yes, I have heard the arguments ad-bloody-nausium: it isnt a league town its an AFL one, the player pool isn't big enough. If you dont give it a chance (Rams only had 2 seasons), it won't catch on. Melbourne is the birth place of Aussie Rules yet the Storm get decent support. And also by going into new markets like Adelaide and Perth you encourage players to take up the game, expanding the pool, instead of tapping the well over and over again like they have been doing by readmitting the Bunnies and adding the Titans and Dolphins. Hell, dropping a second team in Melbourne would have boosted the game more than going back time and time again like the NRL have. The AFL has brought in fresh players from NSW and Qld by their expansions, why hasn't the NRL done the same in the opposite direction?
No. SA does not need a team in the bum fingering game
Ok boomer, As opposed to testicle biting and the racist game? One of the greatest indigenous players to ever play fumbleball now wants nothing to do with it after he was racially vilified out of the sport. And countless racism scandals since.
@@extreamaussieguy2968 Peter Filandia says hello.
@@extreamaussieguy2968 Remember the testicle biting incident Filandia did in a country game?
We should have all these there is no reason why not given enough time
north Sydney bears playing out of north Sydney and central coats
Perth miners navy blue and gold ⛏️
Christchurch kea
Adelaide ravens black red yellow
South Brisbane lions(east tigers) playing at the Gabba brown yellow
Darwin crocs blue and orange
Hobart blue younger blue maroon
You'll be lucky to find anyone here that knows there are two Rugby codes let alone watches any of them. We had a Federal Sports Minister who didn't know what the major sport is in half her own country. The NRL and AFL are not NATIONAL sports and never will be. Just have a look at the ACTUAL TV ratings for AFL in Sydney and Brisbane. Australians just don't like Australian sports.
It will be a sick joke if Adelaide got their own team while Perth is forced into a shotgun marriage with NS Bears
Yep. Phil Gould even advocated for Perth to be a stand-alone team
I think it is likely a Sydney team will be relocated to Adelaide which will maintain the number of teams in the NRL.Cronulla and South Sydney do come to mind
@@limcako41 Why would two financially sound clubs relocate? If Adelaide had to have a relocated Sydney team it should be a merger with the old Newtown Jets.
@@peterkehoe481 Good point but I think the aim is to further reduce the number of Sydney teams.South Sydney is in a limited area and they wouldn't have to change their name too much.Cronulla is hemmed in by St George/Illawarra and can't grow territory wise
@@limcako41 As a lifelong Cronulla fan, why should we relocate to improve the shitshow that is the Dragons? It makes more sense for that club to be based permanently fulltime in Wollongong. The St George junior league is now a sick joke due to the mass demographic changes in that area (the Chinese community has pretty much taken over the main parts of the St George area). 99% of the Dragons playing base is now Illawarra Steelers juniors. It'd make more sense for the Dragons to be based in Wollongong fulltime and for the remaining St George juniors to absorbed into the Cronulla & Canterbury junior systems.
What’s the point ? It’s just the same 3 teams year after Le year panthers storm roosters and forget the rest.., what the NRL needs is a draft thr salary cap doesn’t work contests don’t work nrl is broken. The only dumb sport in the world where player signings happen mid season or a year in advance it’s a joke AFL at least Richmond had success for a few years before being pathetic again, the wests tigers will never have this because of the pathetic nrl system
I like the idea of the NRL moving towards being able to truly call itself a national competition (just as the AFL can already call itself that).
Putting an NRL side in Adelaide is as unrealistic as putting an AFL franchise in NZ. Nobody will care enough about the sport to consistently show up year after year. Once the novelty value wears off, people will gradually lose interest (like the Rams & Western Reds before). The only hope would be an NRL draft or guaranteed access to heartland talent (like the Storm has) to guarantee Storm-like perennial success/competitiveness.
Also, a massive demographic shift of expat New Southers & Queenslanders (which they currently don't seem to have) & migrant kiwis/miscellaneous PI's & their kids (which they don't seem to have either) to Adelaide would be needed to have some decent grassroots interest in the sport. Both rugby codes have reasonable support in Perth & Melbourne because they seem to get a significant amount of these said demographics to at least have a solid grassroots base.
@mikespearwood3914 I get what you're saying, but setting up an NRL team in Adelaide makes far more sense than an AFL side in Auckland, let's say.
Adelaide has a better time zone, domestic flights, and existing infrastructure.
The late 90s were a different time for Rugby League. There was the Super League War and then eventual merger of the 2 codes that put a lot of clubs on the chopping block, from old to new. A lot of fans left the game during that time.
@@raysieelmo Yes, but RL needs more players and has next to little cultural relevance outside of NSW, QLD & ACT. They just don't seem to get any professional players from WA, SA, VIC & TAS: heartland AFL states. They (ironically!) don't seem to get any professional players from a heartland like PNG, and seem to be increasingly reliant on getting more NZ/PI players to help fill these gaps of the massive lack of pro talent from the previously mentioned demographics to help fill up the squads of 17 pro franchises.
@@mikespearwood3914 tbh RL needs to invest in grassroots in adelaide, pretty sure there are like 5 club teams here whereas there are probably millions in queensland and nsw.
I’ve lived in SA my whole life and I can count on one hand the people I’ve met that have any interest in Rugby. There’s no chance that an SA team would work
The same thing was said about Melbourne and look at them now
Polynesians, Kiwis, South Africans and NSW and QLD expats are almost a guaranteed audience.
@@limcako41Whilst the Storm are quite successful on field they still really don’t have any relevance on the sporting culture in Melbourne outside of expats from other states and islanders.
@@psyhki2005That's true for now.But things have to start somewhere and having a team in Melbourne only gives a boost to RL in Victoria
Have the Rams come back and play at Hindmarsh, it would be a great atmosphere! 12,000 at Hindmarsh would be exciting for fans and TV, but 12,000 at AO would not be a good look at all!
It's a strong AFL city here, and most people don't know the difference between League and Union. The NRL would need to be here for the long haul to grow support for the game.
I don't think Hindmarsh has the right dimensions for NRL. There's no room for an endzone or whatever you call it. I know the Rams played there for a short period but compromises were made and the ground has been redeveloped since then anyway with a fixed field size. It would would a good trigger to redevelop a third venue. Perhaps the athletics stadium.
Kevin Walters was sacked by the Broncos because he has no eyebrows 😮
He should be exiled to WA😮
What about a Wellington team?
They won't go to Adelaide. To be honest I'm not even sure they would be considered if the competition went to 22 teams. In my view:
Perth will be 18. They already sell out NRL games and State of Origin. They have the backing of the WA government. It will be a success there.
PNG will be 19. Both federal governments want it to happen and the NRL gets government investment in player development in the country. It will help increase the player pool of the competition and gives 10-20 million people their own team. Security is really my only big worry here.
Christchurch will be 20. NZ are falling in love with the Warriors atm and another team helps boost both them and the sport in the country. Gives the Warriors a rival and helps development in the South island. The new roofed stadium is a bonus.
You then have:
Ipswich/Western Corridor. Shores up Rugby League in the region and hurts the AFL as they are trying to make inroads into the area.
Sunshine Coast. The Dolphins sort of cover this area but with the rapid growth the area is receiving, they will be big enough for their own team sooner than later.
2nd Melbourne. Gives the Storm a local rival and reinforces the NRLs plan to grow into Victoria. (Much like GWS is with Sydney)
Central Coast. Fast growing area without an NRL team currently. NRL heartland through and through.
Wellington. Another NZ team that shores up the country and gives NZ three teams.
Pacific Island team. I don't see this happening but its always a possibility. Covers Fiji, Samoa, Tonga, Cook Islands etc.
Where's all the money coming from for all these franchises??!! Are there unlimited billionaires around to fund them, or governments keen to splash the cash??!!
@@mikespearwood3914depends what model you want to go with. Private ownership is very common in the NRL. The recent expansion team are backed by the Dolphins leagues club.
Adelaide (Rams), Perth (Reds hopefully), and South Island just makes perfect sense for expansion. Plus Adelaide will get a lot of tourists from East Coast fly over for a weekend to watch a game.
I don't know about a standalone team in Adelaide. I am not against it, however, you have got to be kidding regarding the criticism of a PNG NRL team. The negative commentary in this video about PNG not offering the NRL competition anything is millions of miles off the mark:
1. An untapped, potentially MASSIVE player pipeline waiting to be developed to not just service the PNG NRL team, but to flood the NRL player market with quality players to benefit ALL NRL clubs.
2. A membership base of, reportedly, up to 1 million members. We are talking about the potential for tens of millions of dollars in revenue before they sell a single sponsorship or a season pass.
3. More than 5000 businesses are operating in PNG.
4. More than 60,000 expatriate workers, most of whom are from Australia, are based in PNG. Additionally, 10,000 or more Australians reside in PNG at any given time.
5. Watch NRL app subscription numbers will explode with a PNG team.
6. The enormous benefits of a more competitive PNG Kumuls national team to the annual NRL Pacific Championships with a proper pathway program to develop PNG players to NRL standard. The Pacific Championships may well become comparable to the annual Six Nations Rugby tournament in Europe in the future if PNG are capable of beating the Kiwis, Tonga, Samoa and Kangaroos. This could result in even more TV revenue for the game.
Don't waste time on Adelaide it will fail. PNG also a waste of time I agree. Perth for sure yes there are a lot of Kiwis over here for mining also a lot of east coasters like myself here for the same reason. The problem with the NRL is it's shocking at promoting games outside of Brisbane and Sydney. I live in Perth and you wouldn't have Known the Dolphins played the Roosters here last week I found out by mistake a day before.
@@Ansdus I mean it sold out so it sounds like they didn’t really need to do any promoting for the game?
Victoria need a new team
Adelaide is just too different than other cities. They're all academics. And whoever isn't an academic is a Port Adelaide gronk obsessed with AFL. As much as I'd like it to, an NRL team in Adelaide simply wouldn't work.
Haha port gronks! I like it.