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  • @JayForeman
    @JayForeman  3 ปีที่แล้ว +6932

    At 3:42 we used the outdated term 'aborigines'. We apologise for not paying careful enough attention to our language, and we're sorry if we upset anyone. Thanks to those who have pointed it out - we always welcome feedback and will happily post corrections.

    • @bobbywilliam7440
      @bobbywilliam7440 3 ปีที่แล้ว +527

      @Thomas Brookes it'd be the name of the tribe/culture being referred to
      if you wanted to refer to all tribes and cultures you could use 'indigenous' or 'oppressed' people

    • @tnfsg1866
      @tnfsg1866 3 ปีที่แล้ว +492

      @@benwhiley9680 But it is an offensive term that had roots from the racist system back then. You wouldn't call a lower-IQ person a retard and a black person a negro, right?

    • @m136dalie
      @m136dalie 3 ปีที่แล้ว +470

      @Thomas Brookes Aboriginal & Torres Strait Islander Peoples is the commonest used term here, especially in official settings. Indigenous works too. Or you could just refer to them by the group's name, in this case the Murrawarri people.

    • @FractalZero
      @FractalZero 3 ปีที่แล้ว +177

      @@benwhiley9680 oh piss off

    • @Thor-hu2wq
      @Thor-hu2wq 3 ปีที่แล้ว +621

      @@benwhiley9680 so you've decided to make a fool of yourself on the internet

  • @Patterrz
    @Patterrz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5714

    TH-cam "how to" videos are getting a bit extreme nowadays

    • @detectiverick9934
      @detectiverick9934 3 ปีที่แล้ว +71

      Where do we go from here? How to start your own civilization?

    • @nathanclements8421
      @nathanclements8421 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Hello Patterrz.

    • @excitableboy7031
      @excitableboy7031 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      What's up checkmark

    • @amiscellaneoushuman3516
      @amiscellaneoushuman3516 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      @@detectiverick9934 how to create your own sapient species

    • @GZDKSH
      @GZDKSH 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      OMG you're here?

  • @Discitus
    @Discitus 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4127

    The difference between South Sudan and others is that the country they broke away from recognized them. Sudan says there is a South Sudan, so nobody bothers to contest it.

    • @marcussantos2141
      @marcussantos2141 3 ปีที่แล้ว +627

      that's just because george clooney convinced them

    • @jasonsilverman3125
      @jasonsilverman3125 3 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      and oil

    • @j3011
      @j3011 3 ปีที่แล้ว +343

      I was about to comment that! Nobody would bother discussing Kosovo if they were recognised by Serbia

    • @HyTricksyy
      @HyTricksyy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +57

      there's also an amount of territory at the border that belongs to neither country because neither want it.

    • @bluemountain4181
      @bluemountain4181 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@HyTricksyy Abyei? I thought they both wanted it because there is oil there

  • @evan
    @evan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7542

    Wow I can't believe how big you guys have become to have George freakin Clooney in an episode of Map Men. GOOD GOING

    • @conormurphy4328
      @conormurphy4328 3 ปีที่แล้ว +130

      Much better than that time Jay dressed up as Matt Lucas

    • @njujuznem6554
      @njujuznem6554 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      +

    • @kingdomdeen4105
      @kingdomdeen4105 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      th-cam.com/video/7RGeKNNWfMs/w-d-xo.html

    • @bertaroo
      @bertaroo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Lol

    • @augustuscaesar8287
      @augustuscaesar8287 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@kingdomdeen4105 I laughed so hard when I saw that on TV. How great. Shame we've been robbed.

  • @natalyabarton2205
    @natalyabarton2205 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1624

    My unis “claim to fame” was declaring ourselves an independent country in 1980 to protest education cuts. The “Free Republic of Keele” declared themselves independent of the UK, made their own passports, had their own enforced border control and their own national anthem. Apparently, they sent a letter of state recognition to every nation and got a response from Cuba This one response meant that Keele University became its own seperate state away from the UK, literally within the borders of Keele Uni was a completely seperate country. This lasted all of 3 days until HM Army invaded Keele University and conquered the state to get it back into the UK

    • @clinton8421
      @clinton8421 3 ปีที่แล้ว +326

      Those must have been three glorious days for the students of Keele University. If my school broke away from my country and declared independence as a sovereign state, I would be sure to have a hell of a time being a part of that movement.

    • @laurensutcliffe9081
      @laurensutcliffe9081 3 ปีที่แล้ว +111

      I love how i lived 15 minutes away from the uni visited with schools but was never told this lmao

    • @kalamaike
      @kalamaike 2 ปีที่แล้ว +87

      @@laurensutcliffe9081 omg i live 15 minutes away too get out of my house

    • @mouf725
      @mouf725 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      @@laurensutcliffe9081 same wtf

    • @12-343
      @12-343 2 ปีที่แล้ว +88

      The fact it was Cuba of all places really says something.

  • @jrosenthal7111
    @jrosenthal7111 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4968

    That 'map men men' caught me off guard.

    • @C.I...
      @C.I... 3 ปีที่แล้ว +552

      I'm still waiting for them to lean themselves against the wall, and animate some maps saying:
      "Here are the men, and we're the map"

    • @ninjawarrior8994
      @ninjawarrior8994 3 ปีที่แล้ว +197

      @@C.I... Men Maps Men Maps Men Men Men Maps Maps

    • @HolyRomanEmpire962-1806
      @HolyRomanEmpire962-1806 3 ปีที่แล้ว +53

      Mep man mep man mep mep mep man man

    • @gsurfer04
      @gsurfer04 3 ปีที่แล้ว +45

      Identifying as a map is not a good idea these days.

    • @-atimes3-
      @-atimes3- 3 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      gave me a fucking heart attack

  • @davidgustavsson4000
    @davidgustavsson4000 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1404

    "Monopoly over violence" as opposed to the much more common "Violence over Monopoly"

    • @FiredAndIced
      @FiredAndIced 3 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      Then again there had been moments where wars almost did happened because of a bungled board game session.

    • @markwright3161
      @markwright3161 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@FiredAndIced So, get a Monopoly board made for Forvik, Invite George Clooney over for a game, have a war with him and ta-da, Forvik is it's own country :)

    • @wonniewarrior
      @wonniewarrior 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      To quote Chief Wiggum "How do those Parker brothers sleep at night". This is after Officer Lou exclaimed "looks like another case of Monopoly related violence".

    • @larsnyman2455
      @larsnyman2455 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Comrade, every state has a “Monopoly over Violence”, in all of history

    • @nuxx1876
      @nuxx1876 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@FiredAndIcedapparently one time at the soviet antarctic base Vostok Station, someone murdered someone else with an axe over a game of chess and ended up getting chess banned from all soviet/russian antarctic bases from that point on

  • @ricdavid
    @ricdavid 3 ปีที่แล้ว +497

    I wanted to see what the Canada joke was, so that led me to pausing and reading every one of the cards. Your hard work was not in vain, Map Men.

    • @bruceboa6384
      @bruceboa6384 3 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      I caught it too. But, then as a Canadian I'm hypersensitive to when a foreigner actually acknowledges the official existence of the country...maybe?

    • @Fawkes42
      @Fawkes42 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      If you were on PC you could've just used the < and > keys to go frame by frame

    • @ricdavid
      @ricdavid 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      That's good to know, thanks.

    • @whydoineedanameiwillneverp7790
      @whydoineedanameiwillneverp7790 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@Fawkes42 So *that's* how people read these! I'm on mobile and it took me like 10mins of tapping my screen to read all the cards. Came down to the comments thinking surely there has to be a better way - and I wasn't disappointed. THANK YOU!

    • @waziotter
      @waziotter 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@whydoineedanameiwillneverp7790 I was the same. It took me half an hour to watch an 11min video. Taiwan 🇹🇼 was my favourite.

  • @Unclep318
    @Unclep318 3 ปีที่แล้ว +486

    As a Scotsman I recognise Forvik as an independent nation with a responsible governing body

    • @alex_mcburney
      @alex_mcburney 2 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      As an American, I also recognize the country of Forvik

    • @AA-hg5fk
      @AA-hg5fk ปีที่แล้ว +11

      As Stuart Hill said, Forvik is part of the old Norse empire so he doesn't need the recognition of Scotland!

    • @Girlkissah
      @Girlkissah ปีที่แล้ว +38

      I do not recognize Forvik, i think the Old Norse Empire still exists

    • @MC_Mega-Jessup
      @MC_Mega-Jessup ปีที่แล้ว +11

      As a person with functional long-term memory, I shall recognize Forvik should I ever rewatch this video.

    • @davestrider4973
      @davestrider4973 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      As a Forvikman I recognise Scotland as an independent nation with a responsible governing body

  • @cgoulddc
    @cgoulddc 3 ปีที่แล้ว +392

    Love the “Countdown” music at the end.

    • @vigilantcosmicpenguin8721
      @vigilantcosmicpenguin8721 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Putting more effort than usual into the ad bit.

    • @eggy543
      @eggy543 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      ...except it's French style.

    • @FiredAndIced
      @FiredAndIced 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      As a non-British citizen, the silly point for me was that I tuned to the *other" Countdown series just because Jimmy Carr frequented as guest contestant for then-Stephen Fry's Qi series, which I still followed just because I like smart alecks talking out of their arses and then get bamboozled by the siren.

    • @AeroLowdown
      @AeroLowdown 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      The...note at the end got me too

  • @hilotakenaka
    @hilotakenaka 3 ปีที่แล้ว +726

    Mark doesn’t need to worry
    The ad only lasted 2 minutes. That means that there he still has 4 minutes until countdown is on

    • @B3Band
      @B3Band 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      4 minutes*

    • @slimeytheslime363
      @slimeytheslime363 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@B3Band If when they started the conversation there was 4 minutes remaining, then take away the 2 minutes they spent talking, they have 2 minutes left until its on.

    • @ClementinesmWTF
      @ClementinesmWTF 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@slimeytheslime363 calm down there Rachel Riley

    • @timothymclean
      @timothymclean 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@slimeytheslime363 Bit there were _six_ minutes remaining when they started the conversation at 2:04. 6-2=4

    • @slimeytheslime363
      @slimeytheslime363 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@timothymclean Ah, yes it would appear I'm an idiot, thank you for correcting me.

  • @Etienne.6329
    @Etienne.6329 3 ปีที่แล้ว +405

    As a french person, I can tell you that this totally unexpected reference to "Des chiffres et de lettres" on "france 3" really took me off-guard. (Also thanks to you, I learned it was still on TV... which was equally surprising)

    • @bobemmerson1580
      @bobemmerson1580 3 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      Okay but I'm only interested if there is a "Huit de dix chat fait Des chiffres et de lettres" - and I have no idea whether that translates properly

    • @romainsavioz5466
      @romainsavioz5466 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@bobemmerson1580 pretty much but it would be huit chat sur dix font/jouent des chiffres et des lettres
      no there isn't

    • @rocketman584
      @rocketman584 3 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      You probably didn't know that the music at the end is the theme tune from Countdown, a British TV show which is based on Des chiffres et de lettres.

    • @leoprin5792
      @leoprin5792 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@rocketman584 Oh wow! Well thanks for that, I'm going to check, now

    • @MarceldeJong
      @MarceldeJong 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@leoprin5792 Don't forget your Surfshark VPN account.

  • @vtndzn
    @vtndzn 3 ปีที่แล้ว +67

    SOUTH SUDAN!! I used the little pause you gave us to loudly show off the knowledge I got when I attended to the geopolitics class at the academy of sam o'nella in Delaware, hope you guys appreciate it

  • @robintownrobintown
    @robintownrobintown 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1608

    As a Canadian I always assumed that Canada was a real country but I've got to thank Jay and Mark for getting me on the right path of truth at long last.

    • @loranddeka
      @loranddeka 3 ปีที่แล้ว +66

      Patiently waiting for all the Quebec replies.

    • @martinsirois3770
      @martinsirois3770 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      @@loranddeka After seeing the Scotland card, I thought they would at least show Québec. I mean, we Québécois are rather vocal about Québec's (maybe future, I guess?) independence.

    • @martinsirois3770
      @martinsirois3770 3 ปีที่แล้ว +53

      BTW, here's the text on the Canada card : "Since 1867, the north American territory of Canada has functioned much like a country with its own government, flag, and prominence on the world stage. This "nation" is not without its controversy however. Geography teacher Mark Cooper-Jones once left it out when listing every country in the world by heart, for days afterwards insisting to his pupils that this was due to its status as 'not a real country'.."

    • @vladtepes97
      @vladtepes97 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      wasn't it bouchard who said canada is not a real country?

    • @Doogie2K3
      @Doogie2K3 2 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      To be fair, we have credibly been accused of being "three mining companies in a trench coat."

  • @olakrisma6859
    @olakrisma6859 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2817

    I’m from Somaliland and the reason we do not have recognition is because Somalia doesn’t want to let us go. Yes, we have own clan, dialect, government and Independence Day but Somalia refuse to give us written independence even though they recognise us. That’s the difference. I’m proud to be from Somaliland and we do not need recognition from other countries to know that we exist. SOMALILAND HA NOO LAATO 💚🤍❤️

    • @extraemontamontes3618
      @extraemontamontes3618 3 ปีที่แล้ว +149

      Yeah Sudan did grant independence to south sudan so that is a difference

    • @cheesebusiness
      @cheesebusiness 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      Do you still hijack ships?

    • @olakrisma6859
      @olakrisma6859 3 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      @Welly Boot thank you for your lovely comment! I’m born and bred in the UK and I’ve never been to my country! Somaliland is thriving and I would love to go soon God willing💚🤍❤️

    • @olakrisma6859
      @olakrisma6859 3 ปีที่แล้ว +128

      @@cheesebusiness that is a stereotype portrayed in Western media. Somaliland has beautiful culture and history! Thanks to us the world has coffee!

    • @cheesebusiness
      @cheesebusiness 3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      @@olakrisma6859, it’s not a stereotype. My father worked on a ship that was tried to be hijacked near Somali. I don’t say that every Somalian is a pirate.

  • @AO00720
    @AO00720 3 ปีที่แล้ว +632

    In Somaliland we just now concluded an election for parliamentarian and municipality representatives, where 1.3mil registered voters casted their votes.
    Somaliland is still doing well than most of our neighbors without a recognition.

    • @ultrahenk
      @ultrahenk 3 ปีที่แล้ว +86

      For one, it's doing much better than the country it's supposed to be a part of.

    • @camdenbeahan-smith9226
      @camdenbeahan-smith9226 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      That's really good to hear

    • @coltonbates629
      @coltonbates629 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Idk how you feel about it but I think it’s pry better for the country to stay incognito

    • @AO00720
      @AO00720 3 ปีที่แล้ว +48

      @@coltonbates629 staying incognito helped us, more than you can imagine. It gave us 30 years to build up a consolidated social structure, without foreign intervention. But this decade is ours. Recognition is on the horizon.

    • @cheesebusiness
      @cheesebusiness 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I hope you’ve stopped hijacking ships

  • @zappawench6048
    @zappawench6048 3 ปีที่แล้ว +135

    You sign off "Yours faithfully" when you began the letter "Dear Sir" or "Dear Madam". You sign off "Yours sincerely" if you began the letter with the person's name. In other words, the complementary close has to match the salutation.

    • @HappyBeezerStudios
      @HappyBeezerStudios 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      But what if I address the United Nations as a person? "Dear U.N.", that sounds pretty much like it needs "Yours sincerely"

    • @Hand-in-Shot_Productions
      @Hand-in-Shot_Productions 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I didn't know that! Thanks for the comment!

    • @Hand-in-Shot_Productions
      @Hand-in-Shot_Productions 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@HappyBeezerStudios If we were to treat the UN as a person, good point! In any case, chances are that a country filling out a hypothetical recognition form would probably address it to the new country officer (like the one featured in this video), so the letter would begin with the officer's name and end with "Yours sincerely" anyway! Thanks for the comment!

    • @Demiglitch
      @Demiglitch 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      I'm neither sincere nor faithful. I just sign my name after I've given my demands.

  • @SamPearman
    @SamPearman 3 ปีที่แล้ว +445

    "map men men" is such a clever way of making it more or less fit musically like it was never meant to, while working against Jay's own mind having spent so much time editing the bloody thing that his brain (and ours too, but probably not as much) just hear the additional beat as normal and not off-putting anymore. And it even keeps the actual line intact.

    • @bucklberryreturns
      @bucklberryreturns 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Yes indeed.
      Those freaking out about the extra "men" (which literally does make up the poetic meter) like it's exclusive to this particular video. Silly.
      It's like saying The Beatles Oh-Bla-Di Oh-Bla-Da was satanism or something... 🤷🏻‍♂️

    • @honorarymancunian7433
      @honorarymancunian7433 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Are people not familiar with their older videos?!

    • @arnox4554
      @arnox4554 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Men
      Men
      Men
      Men
      Men
      Men
      Men
      ...

    • @NautilusGoose
      @NautilusGoose 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Next video should just be total silence with a single "men" at the end

  • @elogy890
    @elogy890 3 ปีที่แล้ว +352

    I'll happily admit that I read every single one of the cards.

    • @FreyaCatherineMusic
      @FreyaCatherineMusic 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Same! Take that, Taiwan card!

    • @RadeticDaniel
      @RadeticDaniel 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@FreyaCatherineMusic and now we await for the video by said card

    • @station240
      @station240 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@RadeticDaniel don't mention the words "video" and "card" in the same sentence, it triggers IT people.

    • @RadeticDaniel
      @RadeticDaniel 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@station240 true, I've changed the sentence around before writing 'cause it triggered me too XD

    • @llamasugar5478
      @llamasugar5478 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      How did you do it? When I pause the video, the picture darkens and I can’t read it.

  • @iammrbeat
    @iammrbeat 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3394

    Once again, I'd like to take this opportunity to announce that I'm starting a country in Marie Byrd Land and am now taking applications for citizens who would like to join me. No one can stop me.

    • @nfmns
      @nfmns 3 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      ok mr beat, also im 1st yay

    • @bjh
      @bjh 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      I'd like to join

    • @joshuahicks4574
      @joshuahicks4574 3 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      Im coming, as long as I get to be in charge of HobNob production

    • @mikeoxsmal8022
      @mikeoxsmal8022 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Can i be a citzen and the speaker/chair of the legislature

    • @EpicGamer-yu9qn
      @EpicGamer-yu9qn 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Can I be the a tax collector? Only then I will join.

  • @semiayub895
    @semiayub895 2 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    5:16 I love how they took the time to print out a newspaper just for one scene! The amount of effort they put into these videos is insane. Keep it up!
    Edit: Also look at 6:40, and 6:52. And yes Jay and Mark, I do read the print.

  • @ralphhowes
    @ralphhowes 3 ปีที่แล้ว +67

    Brilliant. The accordion Countdown music was perfection.

    • @a1white
      @a1white 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Did-a-did-a-dida-did-a.. hoh!

    • @Nooticus
      @Nooticus 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      ^

  • @sergarlantyrell7847
    @sergarlantyrell7847 3 ปีที่แล้ว +137

    That accordion countdown music was hillarious, and the "hon" at the end was priceless!

  • @prodigalretrod
    @prodigalretrod 3 ปีที่แล้ว +446

    Shout-out to the Sovereign Military Order of Malta, a centuries-old "country" (or more correctly, sovereign entity) with only 3 passport holders.

    • @madeleine61509
      @madeleine61509 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Same number of passport holders as the USA. I don't see the issue 🤷

    • @pattersong6637
      @pattersong6637 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      It's amazing that the final legacy of the Crusaders is an obscure philanthropic order that is theoretically the direct successor of the Knights Hospitaler if you squint hard enough.

    • @kabobawsome
      @kabobawsome 2 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      @@pattersong6637 Really is wild that most Holy Orders started as philanthropic hospitals and safe houses, then they went fuckin nuts and hyper militaristic and then the last few are just back to where they started.

    • @grzegorzha.
      @grzegorzha. 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      3 passport holders and no territory!

    • @waverod9275
      @waverod9275 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      3 passport holders, no territory any longer, diplomatic relations since 1966 with the nation recognized as ruling over its most recent territory, observer status at the UN, and does not claim to be a nation.... got to love the odd historical remnants.

  • @XSpamDragonX
    @XSpamDragonX 3 ปีที่แล้ว +118

    I think it's totally cool for someone to get a back tattoo of the world map, as long as the map projection was chosen and aligned properly, and then track which countries you've visited by filling them in, as long as you don't go around showing it off to people.

    • @dexterjettster3683
      @dexterjettster3683 3 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      I have a new conspiracy theory; either mark or jay is the person with the map tattoo and they keep showing it in videos as something bad to make people think it’s not them

    • @thomasdavis8117
      @thomasdavis8117 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Curious to note the lack of border between France and Germany I wonder what that could mean?

    • @artcamp7
      @artcamp7 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@dexterjettster3683 This is my theory after watching a few of these. You think why are they making fun of this tattoo so much? And the strange detail "Got lashed here" pointing to Myanmar. Sounds awful if true.

    • @Stapler42
      @Stapler42 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@artcamp7 You might know this already but "lashed" is a term for getting really drunk (similar to sloshed or getting pissed), it doesn't mean lashing as in being whipped.

    • @justmeajah
      @justmeajah 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@artcamp7or Thailand? I don't think it's Myanmar

  • @DrMcFly28
    @DrMcFly28 3 ปีที่แล้ว +176

    Still reeling from the fact that you actually got George Clooney to appear in your video

    • @Ometecuhtli
      @Ometecuhtli 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Really nice of Clooney to take some time off from making countries independet, too.

  • @pavarottiaardvark3431
    @pavarottiaardvark3431 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2146

    "Palestine, Taiwan, and Kosovo, to name but two and a half"
    Gold.

    • @bernatgarcia6348
      @bernatgarcia6348 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      I didn't get it, can anyone explain??

    • @megarockman
      @megarockman 3 ปีที่แล้ว +423

      @@bernatgarcia6348 Palestine's situation right now is...*tenuous* regarding how well it is able to function as a state vis-a-vis its conflict with Israel (I'm trying not to drag that flame war into here). Kosovo and Taiwan, though not widely recognized diplomatically, function de facto as a state pretty much like any other UN member state with wide diplomatic recognition.

    • @brancaleone8895
      @brancaleone8895 3 ปีที่แล้ว +133

      @@bernatgarcia6348
      half of palestine is in control of isreal

    • @pavarottiaardvark3431
      @pavarottiaardvark3431 3 ปีที่แล้ว +171

      @@bernatgarcia6348 All of those are 'states but not states, maybe, look, it's complicated' but giving a straight either way answer on any of them will piss off a LOT of people, so they neatly dodge it.

    • @AbdulRehman-wk3cs
      @AbdulRehman-wk3cs 3 ปีที่แล้ว +409

      @@bernatgarcia6348 He said 2 and a half instead of three so that it leaves you guessing about which one they only half-recognize, for example, if you're a nationalist Serb, you'll comfort yourself by thinking Jay doesn't recognize Kosovo, if you're a far-right Jew, then Palestine and so on

  • @stabor_editor
    @stabor_editor 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    It's unreal how much I love this show. The little things, like the 'Cooperworld-Jonesania' card and the concertina Countdown theme - complete with the "honh!" at the end... *chef's kiss*

  • @andrew4363
    @andrew4363 3 ปีที่แล้ว +323

    2:26 I’d argue an Englishman claiming part of Scotland is a historical practice

    • @HolyRomanEmpire962-1806
      @HolyRomanEmpire962-1806 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    • @PlatinumAltaria
      @PlatinumAltaria 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      England hasn't claimed any part of Scotland since the 1300s, which goes a long way to explaining the union of the past 300 years.

    • @mikespearwood3914
      @mikespearwood3914 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@HolyRomanEmpire962-1806 ?

    • @JohnyG29
      @JohnyG29 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      and vice versa.

    • @andrew4363
      @andrew4363 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JohnyG29 *shouts of “you started it!”*

  • @spaghettification8658
    @spaghettification8658 3 ปีที่แล้ว +120

    6:44 "This "nation" is not without controversy however. Geography teacher Mark Cooper-Jones once let it out when listing every country in the world by heart, for days afterwards insisting to his pupils that this was due to its status as "not a real country"."
    Right there with you, Mark! I still remember the day I left New Hampshire of a list of all the American states, it haunts me...

  • @Ausecko1
    @Ausecko1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1790

    "Letters and Numbers" is a perfectly reasonable thing to call a TV show

    • @tvdinner1986
      @tvdinner1986 3 ปีที่แล้ว +98

      "That's Numberwang!"

    • @mremumerm
      @mremumerm 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      like Countdown?

    • @stefanamg63
      @stefanamg63 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      I would've thought that it should either be Letters and Digits, or Words and Numbers, but that's because I'm a pedant.

    • @Slamolo
      @Slamolo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +46

      @@stefanamg63 "Des chiffres et des lettres" is ackchyully "digits and letters", but it doesn't have the same ring to it.

    • @stefanamg63
      @stefanamg63 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Slamolo Ah excellent!

  • @chloroxiphite
    @chloroxiphite 3 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    Aah finally. Somebody who recognises "Cooperworld Jonesania".

  • @rubenlarochelle1881
    @rubenlarochelle1881 3 ปีที่แล้ว +846

    6:51 Gotta love how Palestine, Taiwan and Kosovo are counted as "two and a half" and the viewer is left with the doubt of which one is the "half" ahah

    • @jeannebouwman1970
      @jeannebouwman1970 3 ปีที่แล้ว +145

      They are all jut 0.833… country

    • @haroldinho9930
      @haroldinho9930 3 ปีที่แล้ว +94

      Taiwan is 2 because it claims China too.

    • @DacLMK
      @DacLMK 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Both Taiwan and Kosovo are not countries and should be annexed by China and Serbia respectively.

    • @Scriptedviolince
      @Scriptedviolince 3 ปีที่แล้ว +132

      I say Taiwan counts as the half because it's not that it claims to be its own country, it claims to be the legitimate government of china. Respecting its claim means recognizing that it's incomplete. Thus half.

    • @jeannebouwman1970
      @jeannebouwman1970 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@Scriptedviolince I think that Taiwan is a little less than half china

  • @MasakoX
    @MasakoX 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1387

    Does my stain on my jacket that looks like the Shetland Islands count as a country?

    • @ataphelicopter5734
      @ataphelicopter5734 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      Perhaps, go check with the folks in Shetland

    • @sachiconza9406
      @sachiconza9406 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Do you have an ancestral link to that stain?

    • @lawrencesmeaton6930
      @lawrencesmeaton6930 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Depends, is it in a box or not?

    • @officialjarix
      @officialjarix 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Are the stains "shet"?

    • @Gribbo9999
      @Gribbo9999 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Try it but you will probably end up in the soup like your jacket.

  • @pwildr2603
    @pwildr2603 3 ปีที่แล้ว +119

    A day when a Map Men episode comes out it always a good day.

    • @mysterious7215
      @mysterious7215 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes

    • @J.C_1_2_3
      @J.C_1_2_3 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Agreed.

    • @brandonchan4537
      @brandonchan4537 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      yes ,I watched it before I slept at 11pm and watched it until 12am,so I got 2 days of good day!

  • @FirstNameLastName-gh9iw
    @FirstNameLastName-gh9iw 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    7:48 you can feel the pain as he says enjoy the sun as snow covers him

  • @andyjay729
    @andyjay729 3 ปีที่แล้ว +161

    Cooperworld Jonesania: Even though no territory has been demarcated for the somewhat flippant would-be country of Cooperworld Jonesania, and even though it doesn't have much of a raison d'etre, or a political ideal (let alone institution), and even though it doesn't have much motivation to actually be a country, it does have a flag.

    • @RAFMnBgaming
      @RAFMnBgaming 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      It does?

    • @wattisphysik
      @wattisphysik 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      And it is the most beautiful flag i have ever seen.

  • @sirapple589
    @sirapple589 3 ปีที่แล้ว +303

    0:32
    “Got Lashed Here”
    I think that’s one of the spiciest jokes in Map Men.

    • @ThierryPeek
      @ThierryPeek 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Can you explain it?
      Never heard of Mynmar (which I believe is the country that gets colored in)

    • @rockifythis
      @rockifythis 3 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      Is this a reference to the ongoing, uh, _situation_ in Myanmar?

    • @justanotherglorpsdaymornin5097
      @justanotherglorpsdaymornin5097 3 ปีที่แล้ว +56

      On the one hand it could be spicy. On the other lashed is one of the many terms for getting plastered, wasted or just plain blackout drunk used by us Brits.

    • @alibrown172
      @alibrown172 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@ThierryPeek I think its a reference to this: th-cam.com/video/eKFjWR7X5dU/w-d-xo.html

    • @HolyRomanEmpire962-1806
      @HolyRomanEmpire962-1806 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@alibrown172 ?

  • @andyjay729
    @andyjay729 3 ปีที่แล้ว +177

    Christiania: This former military base in the Danish capital Copenhagen sat abandoned for many years until 1971 when a bunch of hippies broke down the barricades and began squatting there. Nowadays approximately 900 people live in the area, and the community have their own rules and regulations, completely independent of the Danish government - most notably when it comes to the sale of marijuana. Danes have a mixed/uneasy relationship with Christiania depending on who you ask - interesting and idealistic social experiment or lawless crack den that shouldn't be tolerated. Bit of a stretch to call it a country, but it is commonly considered to be quite "cool" (not that we'd know).

    • @KaosKrusher
      @KaosKrusher 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I forgot about Christiania thx ;)
      the cards were too fast :/

    • @nulnoh219
      @nulnoh219 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      That sounds like the Kowloon Walled City.

    • @KaosKrusher
      @KaosKrusher 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@nulnoh219 I think the walled city was more "dangerous"
      also the walled city was really one of a kind ... too bad they destroyed it :/

    • @indieguy103
      @indieguy103 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I went to Christiania once. Bleak doesn’t begin to describe it...

    • @dogcarman
      @dogcarman 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Erm… not quite. Christianians may have opinions on the sale of various drugs but the the Danish police have a slightly different set of views that are regularly enforced. So independent - not so much. But different? Hell yeah.

  • @liammkirby
    @liammkirby 2 ปีที่แล้ว +249

    Watching this with my six-year-old daughter, she exclaimed "He should be called Stupid Hill".
    Consider yourself absolutely ROASTED, Stuart Hill.

    • @Becky_Cooling
      @Becky_Cooling 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

      Ah, the wisdom of 6-year-olds.

  • @EliStettner
    @EliStettner 3 ปีที่แล้ว +282

    The reason South Sudan was recognized and Somaliland was not isn’t because of George Clooney, it’s because they made a peace deal and got Sudan to recognize them. Somalia does not recognize Somaliland, that is the difference.

    • @guppy719
      @guppy719 3 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      So Somaliland just needs to send out a strikeforce to Mogadishu.

    • @vocesdelrioriourbano7236
      @vocesdelrioriourbano7236 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@guppy719 Good luck with that...

    • @RaidsEpicly
      @RaidsEpicly 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      and Somalia can't recognize them since there'd hardly be any Somalia left at that point, since most of the rest of the country is also de facto controlled by groups other than the central government (including some areas by isis and other islamist groups)

    • @NicolaW72
      @NicolaW72 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      If we talk seriously: Indeed, exactly. Somalia would have to officially recognize Somaliland as an independent country - as Serbia would have to officially recognize Kosovo as an independent country.

    • @AppleSauceGamingChannel
      @AppleSauceGamingChannel 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@NicolaW72 Serbia could never recognize Kosovo as a country and that wouldn't make it not so... It's to do with the international community at large, not just one single country recognizing or not.
      Regarding Kosovo in particular, really the most crucial step is once all EU members recognize it, now at 22 of 27. Once that happens they can apply for membership. That would pretty much set that matter in stone for a long while.

  • @nedimar5696
    @nedimar5696 3 ปีที่แล้ว +68

    I am waiting for them to say "We're the map - and here's the men.".

  • @Steve_McMillen
    @Steve_McMillen 3 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    0:17 that "Mapmenmen" was unexpected!

  • @Rafs-on-the-roof
    @Rafs-on-the-roof 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    My favourite part of jays videos is often pausing the read all the little bits of text he puts in, knowing full well hardly anyone will actually read them. They’re still written to an impressively informative and entertaining way. TH-cam goat

  • @TheIronArmenianakaGIHaigs
    @TheIronArmenianakaGIHaigs 3 ปีที่แล้ว +636

    Releasing a video just after Tom Scott posted one, okay this is getting a bit Sus.

    • @markobajramoski5661
      @markobajramoski5661 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Maybe Tom is doing some sort of experiment?

    • @FixTheWi-Fi
      @FixTheWi-Fi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      This gets said every time. They just upload on the same days often, 'snot a bloody conspiracy.

    • @armorsmith43
      @armorsmith43 3 ปีที่แล้ว +44

      You know how women sometimes get their cycles synced up? The same thing happens with TH-camrs.

    • @bruzie900
      @bruzie900 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      @@FixTheWi-Fi The difference this time is that Tom's video mentions the history of Englishmen strolling up to a Scottish island and claiming they own the place.

    • @DominickvdHoff
      @DominickvdHoff 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      they should space it out a bit

  • @ADCD-dj8gz
    @ADCD-dj8gz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    Another Map Map Map Men Men, my favorite time of quarter-year

    • @Sphagetti__
      @Sphagetti__ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Map Map Map Menmen*

  • @elijaha773
    @elijaha773 3 ปีที่แล้ว +55

    6:40 Your comedy always shines in the details.

  • @Amazin01
    @Amazin01 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    Please never stop with your tiny little details hidden in your videos such as those surprisingly informative country cards or your hilarious UN country application (and it being hidden behind mark)

  • @SovietLlamaMC
    @SovietLlamaMC 3 ปีที่แล้ว +92

    Tom Scott: The Accidental Rush for Anthrax Island
    A few minutes later...
    Map Men: How do you start a new country?
    Coincidence?
    I think not.

    • @jordand4738
      @jordand4738 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Tom Scott is related to Ian Scott confirmed

  • @chriskeene
    @chriskeene 3 ปีที่แล้ว +335

    Publish at the same time:
    Tom Scott: 'I decided not to land on the Scottish island, as well, there's a bit of a history of english men coming up here and declaring it their's'
    I refuse to believe this is coincidence

    • @cereal_chick2515
      @cereal_chick2515 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      :O
      I didn't even notice!! C o n s p i r a c y.

    • @kirbykilledgod
      @kirbykilledgod 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Shhhhh

    • @juancitoplasma1404
      @juancitoplasma1404 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      no way... it's true! hahaha

    • @qwvpv
      @qwvpv 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      hello, you don't need an apostrophe in theirs.

    • @BlackJackOfAllTrades
      @BlackJackOfAllTrades 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      I watched his video right before this one and I'm glad I'm not the only person to notice that

  • @lawrencesmeaton6930
    @lawrencesmeaton6930 3 ปีที่แล้ว +468

    The constant tweaks to the map men theme just to fuck with everyone is hilarious.

  • @rogerstone3068
    @rogerstone3068 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Countdown theme on an accordion: brilliant attention to detail. Well done. Provided you were wearing a beret and had a string of onions hanging from the handlebars.

  • @waziotter
    @waziotter 3 ปีที่แล้ว +71

    You two are amazing. The sheer quantity of work and care that goes into these videos is mind-boggling. I am one of the people you didn’t think would read the Taiwan card but actually did. And I don’t blame you for what you said on the Palestine card. I can’t think of any other channel which could be arsed to record an accordion version of the Countdown theme to play for an ad read. Much less do the theme tune to Count Duckula in French. Chapeau!

    • @philipsullivan4885
      @philipsullivan4885 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you, I have been looking for that "Countdown" music for so long.

  • @drinkingwater8439
    @drinkingwater8439 3 ปีที่แล้ว +157

    I know that this video is gonna be gold even before I started watching it

    • @kevinthetree3521
      @kevinthetree3521 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yed

    • @tvnker
      @tvnker 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Remember guys! Stay hydrated!

    • @Dimjenz
      @Dimjenz 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Same

    • @latl089er
      @latl089er 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      this channel is the TOP GEM of youtube.

  • @SebastianAriza
    @SebastianAriza 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    1:21 Oh that's the island, I tough my screen was dirty

  • @lunaholiday8585
    @lunaholiday8585 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank goodness for rewind and pause; I like reading the “documents”.

  • @ShieldAre
    @ShieldAre 3 ปีที่แล้ว +73

    How to be a country: Make other countries recognise you as one. Usually getting recognition from the country you're seceding from is enough.
    The easiest way to do this is to just ask nicely, and surprisingly that works sometimes (Canada, many former colonies).
    The other way is to enforce it militarily (USA and a wide variety of countries).
    And sometimes you might become a country simply because your parent country didn't want you anymore (Singapore).
    Being influential culturally and diplomatically helps, which is for example why Catalonian independence often isn't taken that seriously, but Scottish independence is widely supported even though Scots themselves voted it down. Pretty much everyone knows about Scotland, Scotch, Lochs, kilts, haggis, bagpipes and the rest, but most people outside Catalonia would have a hard time naming three things or even one thing that is Catalan and not Spanish.

    • @willy_dot
      @willy_dot 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Ahaha.. Singapore gets dumped by Malaysia and Malaysian still a developing country today while Singapore....

    • @ap1765
      @ap1765 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Well according to the video Canada is not a real country lol

    • @peperoni_pepino
      @peperoni_pepino 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @Martin Cregan I think the city of Barcelona and hence the corresponding football team are Catalan as well? FC Barcelona is quite well known, so that would give at least some cultural influence to Catalonia.

    • @xway2
      @xway2 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I think it's more that the UK was ok with Scottish independence (I mean they didn't want it, but they allowed the referendum), whereas Spain has never accepted the possibility of Catalonian independence. So if you don't want to piss of Spain, you can't even entertain the possibility of Catalan independence but if you argue in favour of Scottish independence the UK can't really say anything since they allowed for the possibility already.

    • @AppleSauceGamingChannel
      @AppleSauceGamingChannel 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Martin Cregan Which for any non Iberian is not easily distinguishable from castilian, let's be honest.

  • @alydev23
    @alydev23 3 ปีที่แล้ว +56

    I read the cards, Mark, and I'm grateful for the extra details. Also, as an Aussie, I didn't know about the Murrawarri people or their territory claim until just now, thanks for the info. Our government has an abysmal track record when it comes to recognising the rights of the indigenous population.

  • @wasabista1613
    @wasabista1613 3 ปีที่แล้ว +157

    Canada: Two points suggest it isn't a real country. First, the South Park song Blame Canada says, "It isn't a real country anyway!" Second, until 1982 its constitution was an act of the British Parliament. We had to ask nicely to get it FedExed to Ottawa, but the British were very nice and didn't even charge us shipping and handling.

    • @davidlittle7182
      @davidlittle7182 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Even madder that the UK doesn't have a written constitution

    • @adambasinger6239
      @adambasinger6239 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Also the native people's who's unceded territory it consists of, so shitposts aside "Canada isn't a real country" does have some legitimacy to it

    • @wasabista1613
      @wasabista1613 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@adambasinger6239 Okay, that's three.

    • @RabbiHerschel
      @RabbiHerschel 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@adambasinger6239 the territory didn't belong to anyone before the British civilized it. The only "people" there were literal Stone Age primitives.

    • @adambasinger6239
      @adambasinger6239 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@RabbiHerschel Well you said it yourself, there were people there. People who's lands were stolen by about 90% plague (the actual percentage of the population whiped out by old world diseases) 5% naked agression and then the rest is a combination of lies and cultural genocides.
      There were people here before the british. They had governments, cultures and a way of life that worked. They are still alive today, and your a fucking idiot if you think they are only air quotes people.

  • @wheelygd
    @wheelygd 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    You broke my pause button.
    Also, the only series that makes me want to watch the promotion.

  • @LadyCooper
    @LadyCooper 3 ปีที่แล้ว +71

    Somewhere like Kosovo is interesting because US, Canada, and other Western countries recognize it, while Russia and its allies don't - leading to a stalemate and keeping it out of the UN. Basically, you need enough UN-member countries to recognize you to win a vote.
    Also interesting is Nauru, which is a full country and will recognize other countries for money - Taiwan, Abkhazia, South Ossetia, etc.

    • @russellzacharias3535
      @russellzacharias3535 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I also thought there was something about several countries what is effectively a veto power and if those countries don't agree/vote "yes" nothing is going to change. (US, China, Russia plus 4 or 5 others, I think; my understanding is that is a large part of the reason Taiwan doesn't get "recognized" by the UN as a group, China just vetoes)

    • @AppleSauceGamingChannel
      @AppleSauceGamingChannel 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@russellzacharias3535 UN Security Council. Also why Israel hasn't been intervened in by blue helmets to stop the genocide like in Rwanda. US veto.

    • @ClementinesmWTF
      @ClementinesmWTF 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@russellzacharias3535 US, UK, France, Russia (formerly the USSR), and China (PRC, previously ROC-now called Taiwan or “Chinese Taipei”) are the permanent members of the security council, while 10 other “random” (Im not sure how they pick them) non-permanent members are chosen. Any of these objecting to membership will halt membership. The most common factions are US+UK+France and Russia+China. There’s very few membership applications that fall outside of both those two groups’ ideals, and so they often get rejected.

    • @russellzacharias3535
      @russellzacharias3535 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      thanks!

    • @kabobawsome
      @kabobawsome 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@ClementinesmWTF Would like to take this chance to remind everyone that the Cold War never ended, and it was always really just Great Power politics in a new coat of paint.

  • @ErikVSV
    @ErikVSV 3 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    I LOVE that you included Christiania! (Even if it was so brief.) It may have started as a lawless place, but it now actually has many local businesses and even a great music venue. The people have since bought the majority of the land, so they are there legally. There are also no hard drugs allowed. 😎 but what a cool place! Hilsen fra Danmark!

  • @MichaelWarman
    @MichaelWarman 3 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    Lengthy, though hopefully interesting musings on international law and what makes a state:
    From an international law standpoint, there are no hard and fast criteria for what a state is. The closest we have is the Montevideo Conference, though it isn't binding and has no enforcement process. The criteria are having 1. fixed territory/borders, 2. a fixed(ish) population, 3. effective and exclusive control of their territory (i.e. no bands of local warlords undermining you or 'foreign' powers pushing you around) and 4. "ability to enter into diplomatic relations with other states" (a criteria perhaps deliberately vague so that the results could be fiddled either way). There is also no consensus on UN recognition; some claim UN recognition grants statehood that wasn't valid until then, while others say that statehood is an inherit thing and that UN recognition only acknowledges the statehood that already exists. Obvious examples include "Sealand" a small WW2 gun platform off the coast of Britain that was abandoned when the war ended, and then taken over by a family that declared their independence and started flogging merchandise like worthless titles of nobility; no countries recognise them (to my knowledge) and the UK has the power to do as they please with the territory. Other cases to consider might be Tibet, where Chinese control has meant they tend not to get international recognition, Palestine, which largely has international recognition as a state despite the large degree of control Israel is able to exercise over the territory, or even The Islamic State of Iraq and Syria, which at the hight of its power did have a large amount of territory and its people relatively firmly under its control.

    • @Hand-in-Shot_Productions
      @Hand-in-Shot_Productions 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I found this musing to be quite interesting! I knew that the Montevideo Conference left some doors open, but now, I know just _how_ much of a question the requirements for recognition are! Thanks for the comment!

  • @icehawk3442
    @icehawk3442 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I know mapmen has been going on for a bit, but I've just realised how much the intro has Fun With Flags vibes and it's such precious gold hahaha

  • @akseluslunder2186
    @akseluslunder2186 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I'm so happy for all the detail that went into the cards appearing in the video.
    I definitely bothered to read 'em!

  • @andyjay729
    @andyjay729 3 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    Sealand: This very small WWII naval fort off the coast of Essex was just a bit too far away from the coast to be considered part of the UK, and therefore is technically in international waters, and therefore up for grabs. In 1967, fisherman Paddy Roy Bates turned up to the abandoned fort with the intention of running a pirate radio station, but instead decided to declare it an independent country, which his son is the king of to this day. It even has its own football team who play other non-countries you haven't heard of such as Tamil Eelam and Occitania.

  • @napoleonibonaparte7198
    @napoleonibonaparte7198 3 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    Mark will surely like 8 Out of 10 Cats Does Countdown instead of regular Countdown.

    • @ze_rubenator
      @ze_rubenator 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Cats Does Countdown is unequivocally better. Partly because it's silly, and partly because the contestants are so bad it makes me feel better about myself.

    • @Thakar98
      @Thakar98 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hey it's the guy from the NJB comment section

    • @FiredAndIced
      @FiredAndIced 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Me, a non-British: "You mean there are TWO Countdowns?"

  • @hamueramusic
    @hamueramusic 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    how does mark not like watching countdown?! It's a great show
    RIP Sean Lock

    • @davepoole9520
      @davepoole9520 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I can't watch it since Rachel Riley proved what a horrible person she was.

  • @ashholiday123
    @ashholiday123 3 ปีที่แล้ว +303

    I for one stand by the liberation of the democratic Republic of the map men.

    • @thefrenchareharlequins2743
      @thefrenchareharlequins2743 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      men

    • @AxxLAfriku
      @AxxLAfriku 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Why'd you have to go and make things so complicated? I see the way you're acting like you're somebody else. Gets me frustrated. Just admit that you love the videos I make, my dear ash

    • @moshahriz1346
      @moshahriz1346 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@AxxLAfriku excuse me what

    • @lucash1980
      @lucash1980 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nothing democratic about them.

    • @0x8badf00d
      @0x8badf00d 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@moshahriz1346 AxxL is a serial spammer.

  • @elliottchrist
    @elliottchrist 3 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    0:29 - that map seems to have France and Germany fused together - or, as I like to call it, What If Neville Chamberlain Had Fucked Up Even Harder.

    • @theleva7
      @theleva7 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I'm surprised the artist didn't include Belgium into the mix just for those extra cockup cascade points.

    • @darek4488
      @darek4488 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Many things are wrong with that map.

    • @MrFantasnick
      @MrFantasnick 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Charlemagnia ? :P

    • @RabbiHerschel
      @RabbiHerschel 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      France declared war on Germany, not the other way around.

  • @niroshanaperera7330
    @niroshanaperera7330 3 ปีที่แล้ว +121

    Me: _Prepares myself for anything the intro might do_
    The intro: Map Men Map Men Map Map Map *M E N M E N*
    Me: *Surprised Pikachu face

  • @elliotmidgley
    @elliotmidgley 2 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    A good way to get people to recognise you is to get a flag emoji like this one 🇦🇱

    • @MichaelDoesStuff420
      @MichaelDoesStuff420 ปีที่แล้ว

      “Tell me your Albanian without telling me your Albanian”

    • @elliotmidgley
      @elliotmidgley ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MichaelDoesStuff420 not albanian but ok

    • @MichaelDoesStuff420
      @MichaelDoesStuff420 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@elliotmidgley ik you just had the Albanian flag and I just thought it was funny sorry I knew you PROBALY went to but-

    • @elliotstarchannel2023
      @elliotstarchannel2023 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Or this one 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

  • @Yasumy_myl
    @Yasumy_myl 3 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    I didn't expect to hear about "Des Chiffres et des Lettres" and France 3 on a british video today ! Thanks for the laugh

    • @TarkTheConlanger
      @TarkTheConlanger 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      same

    • @FiredAndIced
      @FiredAndIced 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      That I'd gone into the rabbit hole and finally figured out that not only did I *not* watch an original Countdown series (I watched the "other" Countdown by virtue of its host) but there also exist a *French* version of it, too?!

  • @deltahalo241
    @deltahalo241 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I'm glad Mark didn't have to miss out on Countdown even while he was on Holiday in Hawaii

  • @toast99bubbles
    @toast99bubbles 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I always enjoy your sponsor sketches, but today's about Countdown (and the French show it was based on) was great, especially the version of the Countdown theme you used at the end.

  • @DeclanCarnage
    @DeclanCarnage 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm glad I stuck around for the Surfshark ad because the French Countdown theme completed me.

  • @charlottejohnson5173
    @charlottejohnson5173 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    The end credits almost led to myself fainting from lack of oxygen; I was laughing way too much

  • @BOABModels
    @BOABModels 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    0:07 I was in (non-independent) Lincolnshire when this video dropped.

  • @matthewmcneany
    @matthewmcneany 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    When a daddy country and and a mummy country love each other very much...

    • @westrim
      @westrim 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      daddy invades the mummy, and a few hundred years later, a new country is born!
      *pops champagne*
      Mazel tov, it's a United Kingdom!

  • @aidenb1304
    @aidenb1304 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Absolutely cracked up at the accordion cover of the countdown theme

  • @Xalantor
    @Xalantor 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    There is but a single requirement to being a country. That is having the military/economic might to force others to agree with you, if they want to or not.

  • @skyholmes5322
    @skyholmes5322 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Absolutely love how informal that murrawarri letter is. This is how all important documents should be written

  • @Akovor_
    @Akovor_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +235

    Petition to start the country of Mapmenistan

    • @eamonlyons8318
      @eamonlyons8318 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Where tho

    • @_qpas_fury_1572
      @_qpas_fury_1572 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@eamonlyons8318 everywhere

    • @HolyRomanEmpire962-1806
      @HolyRomanEmpire962-1806 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@eamonlyons8318 everywhere

    • @tiagoprado7001
      @tiagoprado7001 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@eamonlyons8318 Jay's half of the desk, obviously

    • @thulyblu5486
      @thulyblu5486 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      What about "Cooperworld-Jonesania" featured and described at exactly 6:42 in this video? It has one of the map men and English breakfast in its flag! If you wanna look and read yourself I recommend clicking on 6:32 which gives you up to 10 seconds to change the video speed to 25% so you can pause at exactly the right moment. Isn't this the name for a map men country? In case I'm missing an insider joke, please explain, thx :)

  • @Flow86767
    @Flow86767 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Damn, thank you for hiding the historical context of Taiwan, Kosovo (and definitely totally writing a long and very detailed explanation of Palestine), it is very nice to find out all the little details in your videos.

  • @tristansoendergaard7867
    @tristansoendergaard7867 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Always a lovely day when the Map Men appear.

  • @yannfaulus
    @yannfaulus 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    4:56 the horn of Africa got me

  • @mooseade
    @mooseade 3 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    "You've got to teach the World to sing, Danny Wallace is the King"

    • @BenCol
      @BenCol 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes

  • @Oscar92839
    @Oscar92839 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    4:12 “twice the size of Denmark”
    *greenland left the chat*

  • @beatricerossi9757
    @beatricerossi9757 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Thank you for the amazing video! Guys, have you ever heard of the "Republic of Rose Island" in Italy? It was an artificial island that claimed to be a nation. It also drew the UN attention and, as a result of this attempt, the territorial waters' border has been moved further away from the coastline. Maybe it would be interesting to make a video about it. Greetings from Italy!

  • @DrakiniteOfficial
    @DrakiniteOfficial 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I love your channel and your presentation style. You two manage to make maps interesting to someone who barely cares about politics, history or geography.

  • @auhsoj3adie
    @auhsoj3adie 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I can't believe Mark went all the way to Hawaii just to film the for the sponsor - now that's dedication!

    • @Spanish_Conquistador
      @Spanish_Conquistador 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      He didn't

    • @auhsoj3adie
      @auhsoj3adie 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Spanish_Conquistador What do you mean? There's literally video evidence!

    • @Spanish_Conquistador
      @Spanish_Conquistador 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@auhsoj3adie he just sat in his backyard and recorded it

    • @auhsoj3adie
      @auhsoj3adie 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Spanish_Conquistador Nah that's Hawaii

    • @Spanish_Conquistador
      @Spanish_Conquistador 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@auhsoj3adie or just England ITS ALWAYS COLD AND CLOUDY IN ENGLAND besides that's where he lives

  • @MrJimheeren
    @MrJimheeren 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I’ve finally read all the cards. Gosh you guys really put in the details

  • @ulfjohnsen6203
    @ulfjohnsen6203 3 ปีที่แล้ว +198

    Getting UN recognition is a result of being a country, not a requirement. The requirement is convincing the former owners to let you have the land.

    • @yds6268
      @yds6268 3 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      "convincing"

    • @mukrifachri
      @mukrifachri 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      "former owner"

    • @TopchetoEU
      @TopchetoEU 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      "."

    • @SinemaSurf
      @SinemaSurf 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      "Ulf"

    • @tarksurmani6335
      @tarksurmani6335 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      You don't need former owners recognition if the rest of 200 countries recognize you.

  • @krakenpots5693
    @krakenpots5693 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I didn't expect anyone outside of France to know about "des chiffres et des lettres"!!!
    It used to be one of my favourite shows when I was a kid (that and "Question pour un champion")

    • @Septimus_ii
      @Septimus_ii 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Question for a Mushroom?

    • @krakenpots5693
      @krakenpots5693 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Septimus_ii Champion, not Champignon

    • @James-gc5if
      @James-gc5if 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      'Des chiffres et des lettres' is one of those quiz programmes that has been exported around the world. The UK version, being referenced here, is called 'Countdown'.

    • @krakenpots5693
      @krakenpots5693 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@James-gc5if I can still remember the clock music!!!

    • @never8931
      @never8931 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wow one letter really makes a difference

  • @JoeBleasdaleReal
    @JoeBleasdaleReal 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I never knew I needed an accordion arrangement of the Countdown theme in my life but apparently I do 😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • @joshandrews6839
      @joshandrews6839 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      sounded like something out of 8oo10c

  • @RammusTheArmordillo
    @RammusTheArmordillo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +74

    Yes please, an episode about Taiwan would be lovely (some people do read all the cards)

    • @resolvanlemmy
      @resolvanlemmy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      And basically all of the "disputed territories" that they call themselves "countries"

    • @Hand-in-Shot_Productions
      @Hand-in-Shot_Productions 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I just read the cards, and it sounds interesting! I would be interested in watching the video, if they want to make it!

    • @gwantouwong922
      @gwantouwong922 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Taiwan is complicated, they are de facto Republic of China, former government of China. Constitutionally they claim the whole China nowadays and Republic of Mongolia (outer Mongolia), part of Kazakhstan and Uzbekistan, Tuva Republic (small part of Russia). While nowadays they are generally called Taiwan😂

    • @artugert
      @artugert ปีที่แล้ว

      @@gwantouwong922 The main island is called Taiwan. The nation is called Republic of China.

  • @zidanez21
    @zidanez21 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    That Gearge Clooney thing was a giant 'oof' moment,

  • @monsvague4825
    @monsvague4825 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    There is no other channel on TH-cam that makes me happier when they release a video. You guys rock!

  • @HarryR545
    @HarryR545 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    6:42 can't believe Canada was a semi-country this whole time...

  • @DangoGaming1000
    @DangoGaming1000 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you for letting me find the sample of “the wait is over” I couldn’t find it anywhere!