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Hi @jason galban, I got a little chuckle from your comment. The funny part is my hands get dirty frequently because of the jobs I do and I always have to remind myself to clean them up before recording.
Thanks a lot for this video, (I haven't watched the whole vid yet) Kaalia recently caught my eye as angels, demons and dragons are probably my three favorite creature types, and kaalia herself is an extremely powerful card. I think this vid will help me figure out what I need as I am still in the process of building it. Thanks again and you earned a sub!
@@vex_mtg np, I've been trying to find a good deck tech and yours was amazing, and I'll be sure to tell you how my deck ends up, I still have to buy some singles, but I'm almost done! All thanks to your vid so I'm grateful 😁. Thanks!
I had bought her deck back in the day, eye leik eet a lot, despite my initial love for demons and lesser so dragons it is mostly angels for me in that deck now
Ditch sneak attack and put in chromatic lantern or quick silver amulet, consider putting in brought back as well. Ideally you want Kaalia turn 3 with haste, with switf foot boots or fervor down by turn 2.
Brought Back is pretty neat inclusion. I try not to have a 3 MV rock as I want to play a rock on turn 2. Sneak Attack is a pet card of mine I just love to use, but I do agree, it's cuttable.
Kaalia is a very casual commander in comparison to many many other cedh decks. If you’re considering casual play power level then yeah, kaalia is pretty damn good. However there is a pretty good kaalia cEdh build out there but it only uses 4 demons.
Couldn't you use blade if selves to myriad token copy's of kaalia but because her token still etb and then poof out of existence they still hit her ability
Hi @fooltube9999, that is correct, there is a slim possibility to get Kaalia out on turn 2. But why stop there, might as well do Mana Crypt into Sol Ring into mana rock + Chrome Mox + Land = turn 1 Kaalia. 😆
I wonder how different the power level of the deck is when running the other Kaalia? It would be amazing to have a deck with two interchangeable power levels as you mentioned at the beginning!
Judging by the fact that he runs 13 mana sources in 99 cards and only Arena to draw i say that the difference is huge. A deck based on the 3 cmc Kalia would have much more draw (5-6 spells in total plus Dark Confidant), 3-4 more mana rocks and a better selection of them in general (Mana Vault? Palladium Myr? Thran Dynamo?) and a third tutor or even a fourth. A robust blink engine would be needed too.
Hi @Abdulrahman Bastaki. That's a great question. The power level is really different as you don't get the cheat any creatures into play and have to pay full retail for all of them (except with Sneak Attack, etc.). I always try to have decks with two interchangeable commander, it's really fun and it really allow you to adapt to the power level of the group you are playing with. For example, replacing Niv-Mizzet, Parun with Niv-Mizzet, the Firemind. There's a big power jump between the two, just like the 2 Kaalias.
@@vex_mtg Will you ever do a Sisters of Stone Death deck tech? I am interested in building a budget (around 120$) version of that and i am curious about how you would build it.
Very good deck! Also very expensive though (comes with the power level). I'm building a (semi?) budget version of her with the cards I have on hand. It's mostly Angels though since they're my favorite creature type. Still, very nice job!! I've been wanting to play Kaalia since I first started playing in 2012!
Hi @Jake Friedland, thanks for stopping by. I would recommend skipping Odric and try to stick with budget Angel, Demons, and Dragons. For example: Angelic Skirmisher, Demon of Loathing, or Drakuseth, Maw of Flames.
Hi @Julian Vecc, thanks for stopping by. EDHREC has you covered for budget options for Kaalia: edhrec.com/commanders/kaalia-of-the-vast-budget-budget. I'm always here to answer questions on specific cards and directions you want to take the deck. Tell me how your deck turns out!
Awesome deck Vex - I'm currently building a Kaalia myself, wondering what your thoughts were on cards like Savage Beating, World at War and Berserkers' Onslaught?
Hi @Michael Falzon, thanks for checking out my deck tech. Yeah, I like the extra combat cards where you can trigger Kaalia again. I wanted to put some in my deck but that wasn't the direction I wanted to take my deck. However, I would highly recommend adding in those extra combat cards if you want to take your deck in that direction. Just remember to keep your creature count reasonable so they are effective. I don't really recommend the double striking cards because it feels like a "win more" card to me. Good luck with your deck and tell me how it goes.
@@vex_mtg I currently have a build with about 33 creatures including Kaalia herself, still a wip so thats fluctuating still as I build it. Also yeah, I think I agree with you about the double sriking being more of a win-more card. Thanks for the input dude
Hi @demon280, thanks for checking out my video. Master of Cruelties is a weird one where it triggers on the declare blockers phase because of the way it is worded. I actually had to double check on that before I made the video and actually put it on the show notes. gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=368981
10:56 ferver is a risky card it gives everyone haste. play purphros hammer it does the same thing but only your creature. you should play sensei top and scroll racks for cards filter. some of your demon are under power
Hi @Mike Chua, thanks for stopping by. I'm guessing you are wondering why I added both Akromas to the deck. I just loved Akroma's many keywords, its one of the cards I've always wanted to play in a deck. I know she's not "optimal", but that's the beauty of Commander, you can customize to your tastes. I hope that answers the question.
hi vex, and thanks for this video, I start the "Commander", I start from 0, and Kaalia is my choice, I love angels since Dominaria. I keep your list in mind, and hope to improve mine over time. Thank you again, and hello from France ...
Hi @seb s0rryl0rd, I'm glad to hear you got into Commander, it's a fantastic game and a great format to play with friends. Yeah, this deck is really flavorful with big iconic creatures. Tell me how your deck goes!
Hi @Clark Schwarz, yeah, I would put Whip of Erebos into the deck, it looks like a fun card to have and can help you recover from a wrath. I would always recommend trying cards out and if you think it's too clunky, you can always remove it later.
@@demon2808 I personally prefer Lyra Dawnbringer over Baneslayer bc Lyra is a baneslayer without the protection (which is often useless) but she can also pump all of your angels and give them lifelink, which is worth it if you even have one other angel.
Hi @Eligner, sorry I didn't have her in my deck. I was considering Platinum Angel, but there are so many good Angels to choose from, it was really hard. I'm glad you're able to play it in your deck!
VEX MTG ah I just love kaalia because angels and demons are my favorite creature types. My favorite way to play is with big memey shit so platinum angel is ridiculous. For example for 60 card I play eldrazi that gives you an idea of who I am.
VEX MTG sounds good I will. I have last two things to last things to say. 1) I would love an eldrazi deck tech (casual not commander) and 2) have you ever considered demon of loathing and pestilence demon for the kaalia deck? Those have both won me multiple games on their own
I'm in the works of making a new series for building non-EDH constructed decks and I will put Eldrazi on the list. As for the other demons, I did consider Demon of Loathing, but not Pestilence Demon, but they sound like fun cards to have in the deck.
maybe some ideas for your kaalia to consider: Reconnaissance - white enchantment to get your kaalia triggers and remove her or any other creature from combat immedeatly if needed Rakdos Signet - you already run the orzhov and boros, dont see why u shouldnt run the rakdos and cut fellwarstone Quicksilver Amulet - artifact for 4 with t4 to cheat any creature from your hand into play just as one more way to get you playing if kaalia gets to expensive to cast, upside you dont need to sac your creatures like with sneak attack downside well 4mana to activate Bolas´s Citadel - cheat everything into play from your deck till you hit the 2nd land nuf said ^^ City of Brass, Mana Confluence, Cavern of Souls - just straight up better than some of your actuall land imo like the horizon or checklands or a couple others since they get you all 3 colours instead of 2, and cavern even if only colourd mana for kaalia gives her 1 more layer of protection when you cast her
Hi @Sv He, thanks for checking out my video and adding some really insightful recommendations to the comments. I agree with all your recommendations. (I added Sneak Attack in because of it being a Double Masters card for the theme).
Play more 5cmc because people tend to destroy Kaalia istantly because they know the bombs that you can play with her. So they destroy her and you go far behind from other players.
Hi @J K, thanks for checking out my video. Hammer of Purphoros would be a good replacement for Fervor. The reason I picked Fervor was because it was just an enchantment and not an artifact, there's more artifact hate out there than enchantment hate (at least in my play group). A small bonus is that it has an easier mana cost to cast, R vs RR.
As someone who has been playing kaalia for a while I would not recommend master of cruelties. The only time he is good is in the beginning of the game when your opponents have no blockers. But at that point, do you really want to make someone leave the game on turn 4 or 5? Late game he does nothing if opponents have any blockers and they most likely will. Other threats are way better imo
Hi @Clark Schwarz, good point, I wanted to include Master of Cruelties for the epic destroy target player moment! I do agree, there are much better threats out there. Thanks for the insight.
Your draw w dead T2 shows why to run 6 tails men / signets. All the mediocre creatures in your hand like Sephora and Reya are better off being signet and tutor. Instead of doing nothing T2, you drop a signet. T3 you cast commander and have mana remaining for tutor, go get MoC. T4 you win if OP cannot disrupt.
Hi @Martin Arnold, it was so hard to cut all of those sweet creatures, I decided to cut some mana rocks (not the best idea). I'm actually going to detune the deck because my playgroup thinks its a little too strong. Thanks for checking out my video!
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Thanks for being a stand up guy and clipping your nails and washing your hands. That's a veteran move right there.
Hi @jason galban, I got a little chuckle from your comment. The funny part is my hands get dirty frequently because of the jobs I do and I always have to remind myself to clean them up before recording.
Thanks a lot for this video, (I haven't watched the whole vid yet) Kaalia recently caught my eye as angels, demons and dragons are probably my three favorite creature types, and kaalia herself is an extremely powerful card. I think this vid will help me figure out what I need as I am still in the process of building it. Thanks again and you earned a sub!
Hi @Roman Williams, thanks for the support, keep me posted on how your deck turns out!
@@vex_mtg np, I've been trying to find a good deck tech and yours was amazing, and I'll be sure to tell you how my deck ends up, I still have to buy some singles, but I'm almost done! All thanks to your vid so I'm grateful 😁. Thanks!
@@romanwilliams2425 does it work good ?
This deck is insane
@Sports Card Universe, indeed it is!
I had bought her deck back in the day, eye leik eet a lot, despite my initial love for demons and lesser so dragons it is mostly angels for me in that deck now
Ditch sneak attack and put in chromatic lantern or quick silver amulet, consider putting in brought back as well. Ideally you want Kaalia turn 3 with haste, with switf foot boots or fervor down by turn 2.
Brought Back is pretty neat inclusion. I try not to have a 3 MV rock as I want to play a rock on turn 2. Sneak Attack is a pet card of mine I just love to use, but I do agree, it's cuttable.
“For the big fatties” Lol fucking cracks me up 🤣🤣🤣 got me saying that now
Hi @Victor Martinez, thanks for checking out my video. "For the big fatties" is cracking me up now 🤣. I'm glad you found a cool catch phrase.
VEX MTG subscribed man 👍 thanks for the content. And yeah; thanks for the catch phrase 😂😂😂🤣 now my group anticipates me saying that all the time haha.
Kaalia is a very casual commander in comparison to many many other cedh decks. If you’re considering casual play power level then yeah, kaalia is pretty damn good. However there is a pretty good kaalia cEdh build out there but it only uses 4 demons.
@Ryan Linkous, yeah, I wanted to have a powerful, yet casual deck, definitely not cEDH level power. But I'm not opposed to playing Kaalia in cEDH.
Nice deck! I’m also slowly making a kaalia deck at the moment
Hi @streetsurfer24, thanks for stopping by. Tell me how your deck ends up.
Couldn't you use blade if selves to myriad token copy's of kaalia but because her token still etb and then poof out of existence they still hit her ability
Ancient Tomb with a signet can let you cast Kaalia on turn 2 if you have the right mana combination!
Hi @fooltube9999, that is correct, there is a slim possibility to get Kaalia out on turn 2. But why stop there, might as well do Mana Crypt into Sol Ring into mana rock + Chrome Mox + Land = turn 1 Kaalia. 😆
Nice deck man, good insights and explanations.
Hi @Benoît Le Cuff, thanks, I'm glad you found my deck tech was helpful.
I wonder how different the power level of the deck is when running the other Kaalia?
It would be amazing to have a deck with two interchangeable power levels as you mentioned at the beginning!
Judging by the fact that he runs 13 mana sources in 99 cards and only Arena to draw i say that the difference is huge. A deck based on the 3 cmc Kalia would have much more draw (5-6 spells in total plus Dark Confidant), 3-4 more mana rocks and a better selection of them in general (Mana Vault? Palladium Myr? Thran Dynamo?) and a third tutor or even a fourth. A robust blink engine would be needed too.
Hi @Abdulrahman Bastaki. That's a great question. The power level is really different as you don't get the cheat any creatures into play and have to pay full retail for all of them (except with Sneak Attack, etc.). I always try to have decks with two interchangeable commander, it's really fun and it really allow you to adapt to the power level of the group you are playing with. For example, replacing Niv-Mizzet, Parun with Niv-Mizzet, the Firemind. There's a big power jump between the two, just like the 2 Kaalias.
Hi @Luca, thanks for stopping by. Great answer!
@@vex_mtg Will you ever do a Sisters of Stone Death deck tech? I am interested in building a budget (around 120$) version of that and i am curious about how you would build it.
@Luca, I'll put it on the list! (The list is growing quite large)
Very good deck! Also very expensive though (comes with the power level). I'm building a (semi?) budget version of her with the cards I have on hand. It's mostly Angels though since they're my favorite creature type. Still, very nice job!! I've been wanting to play Kaalia since I first started playing in 2012!
Thanks @pokemastericon. I do think budget Kaalia is still pretty competitive. I'm glad you're able to finally build your deck!
im making one but im making it cheaper should i use odric lunarch marshall?
Hi @Jake Friedland, thanks for stopping by. I would recommend skipping Odric and try to stick with budget Angel, Demons, and Dragons. For example: Angelic Skirmisher, Demon of Loathing, or Drakuseth, Maw of Flames.
What are some good, not too pricey cards for a deck of my own?
Hi @Julian Vecc, thanks for stopping by. EDHREC has you covered for budget options for Kaalia: edhrec.com/commanders/kaalia-of-the-vast-budget-budget. I'm always here to answer questions on specific cards and directions you want to take the deck. Tell me how your deck turns out!
Basically take out all of the tutors he had in and his original dual lands and its a reasonably affordable deck.
New to Mtg Wanna Summon demons Thanks for this Great Vid
Hi @AC TheReal, thanks for checking out my deck tech, hope you get the summon those Demons soon!
Awesome deck Vex - I'm currently building a Kaalia myself, wondering what your thoughts were on cards like Savage Beating, World at War and Berserkers' Onslaught?
Hi @Michael Falzon, thanks for checking out my deck tech. Yeah, I like the extra combat cards where you can trigger Kaalia again. I wanted to put some in my deck but that wasn't the direction I wanted to take my deck. However, I would highly recommend adding in those extra combat cards if you want to take your deck in that direction. Just remember to keep your creature count reasonable so they are effective. I don't really recommend the double striking cards because it feels like a "win more" card to me. Good luck with your deck and tell me how it goes.
@@vex_mtg I currently have a build with about 33 creatures including Kaalia herself, still a wip so thats fluctuating still as I build it. Also yeah, I think I agree with you about the double sriking being more of a win-more card. Thanks for the input dude
There are already a lot of high cmc in the deck, so they probably aren’t worth the slot
@@michelebertoni8811 maybe not, but I might trial them and see how they fair, if they don't offer much to the deck I'll remove or sideboard them
I would consider Tainted Strike over Savage Beating. Combo this with Gisela, Blade of Goldnight.
MoC is an attack trigger
Hi @demon280, thanks for checking out my video. Master of Cruelties is a weird one where it triggers on the declare blockers phase because of the way it is worded. I actually had to double check on that before I made the video and actually put it on the show notes.
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10:56 ferver is a risky card it gives everyone haste. play purphros hammer it does the same thing but only your creature. you should play sensei top and scroll racks for cards filter. some of your demon are under power
Fervor only gives your creatures haste. Are you not thinking of Need for Speed?
forgot if you mentioned it ... but Akroma ?
Hi @Mike Chua, thanks for stopping by. I'm guessing you are wondering why I added both Akromas to the deck. I just loved Akroma's many keywords, its one of the cards I've always wanted to play in a deck. I know she's not "optimal", but that's the beauty of Commander, you can customize to your tastes. I hope that answers the question.
@@vex_mtg oh sorry for some reason I didnt see or forgot you have her in there. ^^ Was wondering why she wasn't there until you mentioned it.
@Mike Chua No problems at all. She's one of my favorite angels.
My worst ever pod was me vs 3 Kaalia decks lol
Should have joined the fun and brought you own right? I'm guessing you lost that game?
@@vex_mtg I took one of them out but yes, a loss. Nowadays I have a Kaalia - thanks for the deck tech 🙌
Hey, man I know this an old video just wondering where you get your sleeve from?
Hi @phech hean, I usually get my sleeves here: amzn.to/3pOLwDq. I usually buy them in bulk too.
How consistent does Kaalia attack turn 3?
It’s extremely rare to play Kaalia on turn 2/3 and attack turn 3. I would say 1 out of 3 games I attack with Kaalia turn 4.
do a update
I do have an updated list and video, check out my deck techs playlist!
hi vex, and thanks for this video, I start the "Commander", I start from 0, and Kaalia is my choice, I love angels since Dominaria. I keep your list in mind, and hope to improve mine over time. Thank you again, and hello from France ...
Hi @seb s0rryl0rd, I'm glad to hear you got into Commander, it's a fantastic game and a great format to play with friends. Yeah, this deck is really flavorful with big iconic creatures. Tell me how your deck goes!
would you put whip of erebos in this deck?
Hi @Clark Schwarz, yeah, I would put Whip of Erebos into the deck, it looks like a fun card to have and can help you recover from a wrath. I would always recommend trying cards out and if you think it's too clunky, you can always remove it later.
not a bad inclusion, but i personally think that you use your artifacts to ramp and color fix. if you want the life link there is baneslayer angle
@@demon2808 I personally prefer Lyra Dawnbringer over Baneslayer bc Lyra is a baneslayer without the protection (which is often useless) but she can also pump all of your angels and give them lifelink, which is worth it if you even have one other angel.
My favorite card in my kaalia deck you don’t have :( it’s the platinum angel
Hi @Eligner, sorry I didn't have her in my deck. I was considering Platinum Angel, but there are so many good Angels to choose from, it was really hard. I'm glad you're able to play it in your deck!
VEX MTG ah I just love kaalia because angels and demons are my favorite creature types. My favorite way to play is with big memey shit so platinum angel is ridiculous. For example for 60 card I play eldrazi that gives you an idea of who I am.
@Eligner, if you love fatties, check out my Kinnan Deck Tech I just made: th-cam.com/video/-0q5jrFqq9w/w-d-xo.html
VEX MTG sounds good I will. I have last two things to last things to say. 1) I would love an eldrazi deck tech (casual not commander) and 2) have you ever considered demon of loathing and pestilence demon for the kaalia deck? Those have both won me multiple games on their own
I'm in the works of making a new series for building non-EDH constructed decks and I will put Eldrazi on the list. As for the other demons, I did consider Demon of Loathing, but not Pestilence Demon, but they sound like fun cards to have in the deck.
Excelente deck me gusta mucho
Hi @Jorge Campos, I'm glad you liked the deck. Stop by anytime for more deck techs!
@@vex_mtg yo igual juego KAALIA OF THE VAST es mi deck favorito¡¡¡
@Jorge Campos I'm glad to hear that. This deck is a lot of fun!
maybe some ideas for your kaalia to consider:
Reconnaissance - white enchantment to get your kaalia triggers and remove her or any other creature from combat immedeatly if needed
Rakdos Signet - you already run the orzhov and boros, dont see why u shouldnt run the rakdos and cut fellwarstone
Quicksilver Amulet - artifact for 4 with t4 to cheat any creature from your hand into play just as one more way to get you playing if kaalia gets to expensive to cast, upside you dont need to sac your creatures like with sneak attack downside well 4mana to activate
Bolas´s Citadel - cheat everything into play from your deck till you hit the 2nd land nuf said ^^
City of Brass, Mana Confluence, Cavern of Souls - just straight up better than some of your actuall land imo like the horizon or checklands or a couple others since they get you all 3 colours instead of 2, and cavern even if only colourd mana for kaalia gives her 1 more layer of protection when you cast her
Hi @Sv He, thanks for checking out my video and adding some really insightful recommendations to the comments. I agree with all your recommendations. (I added Sneak Attack in because of it being a Double Masters card for the theme).
Honestly to make it a bit budget just remove the duals and maybe a fetch
Great recommendation @Eliasaurus.
Play more 5cmc because people tend to destroy Kaalia istantly because they know the bombs that you can play with her. So they destroy her and you go far behind from other players.
Hi @Michele Bertoni, that's a good point. I would recommend not playing her until you can protect her.
Hammer of purphoros instead of fervor
Hi @J K, thanks for checking out my video. Hammer of Purphoros would be a good replacement for Fervor. The reason I picked Fervor was because it was just an enchantment and not an artifact, there's more artifact hate out there than enchantment hate (at least in my play group). A small bonus is that it has an easier mana cost to cast, R vs RR.
It gives you an option if they try to destroy it. You can sac it so they waste a removal spell.
Hi @J K, I'm a little confused, I'm not sure Hammer can sac itself.
I was thinking of the wrong one. Sorry
I was thinking of fires of yavimaya
As someone who has been playing kaalia for a while I would not recommend master of cruelties. The only time he is good is in the beginning of the game when your opponents have no blockers. But at that point, do you really want to make someone leave the game on turn 4 or 5? Late game he does nothing if opponents have any blockers and they most likely will. Other threats are way better imo
Hi @Clark Schwarz, good point, I wanted to include Master of Cruelties for the epic destroy target player moment! I do agree, there are much better threats out there. Thanks for the insight.
Your draw w dead T2 shows why to run 6 tails men / signets. All the mediocre creatures in your hand like Sephora and Reya are better off being signet and tutor. Instead of doing nothing T2, you drop a signet. T3 you cast commander and have mana remaining for tutor, go get MoC. T4 you win if OP cannot disrupt.
Hi @Martin Arnold, it was so hard to cut all of those sweet creatures, I decided to cut some mana rocks (not the best idea). I'm actually going to detune the deck because my playgroup thinks its a little too strong. Thanks for checking out my video!
@@vex_mtg was indeed an interesting video. Take care and gl