What a cool rifle! I have a Mosin Nagant M44, made in 1944, with wear showing someone carried this rifle all over the Eastern Front in WWII. I love every dent and blemish in the stock! But the bore is perfect and it shoots like a dream.
much respect... this TH-cam channel is one of the main reasons I became interested and continue to be interested in firearms and the history of firearms. thanks to moss pawn and the crew I am considering gunsmithing school and making firearms my profession
There is a gazzilion Mosins gathering dust... messing with one is no big deal... Now it shoots twice as good too. If this Mosin could speak I'm sure it would be thankful for the new outfit, haircut and a gourmet meal. Living the Mosin dream.
I found your channel through a sporterized mosin build and I am glad to see you are still true to your roots. I can tell you my sporter with a boyds stock and a rock solid mount has taken 3 deer and 1 elk in the last 3 years. Not bad for a sub $400 investment. Oh and I can plink all day at the range with milsurp ammo for next to nothing.
All these "ugh, how dare they do that to a mosin" comments... Honestly, do whatever the hell you want to your guns so long as it means you will enjoy shooting it more, or more often. There is a freakish number of stock old mosins out there, its nice to see one done up like this now and again.
Right? Not only that but it's a Mosin for christ sake. One of the cheapest and easiest to find rifles around in pretty much any given city in any state.
My guess is, if someone is gonna put that kind of money into a mosin they probably already have 12 of them. I think its great to take an old and tired (but tried and true) piece of steel and remake into something new and exciting. Like a resto-mod on a classic muscle car.
I personally would only do it to a 91/30 because there cheaper and more were made, now I would not modify the 1891 model hex receiver Mosin because they are hard and more expensive to get and also they are older, and a side note some early 1891 Mosins were made by Remington and it would be absolutely idiotic to cut or modify one of them.
mark shuler What are you talking about? The mosin nagant that we know today has been around longer than the mouser that most people call mousers, and how is it a step child of wartime bolts when it is one of the first? How is it even a war time bolt when it came out in 1891 when there was not a war 13 years before it, and 8 years after it? To me a mosin is not ugly, it is not a stepchild, or a wartime bolt.
mark shuler Plenty of people like the look of mosin, when its not a beat up wartime example but a nice shiny resto with a little custom work on the stock its a very nice looking rifle. What exactly makes the Mauser that much more beautiful in your eyes?
That is one sweet rifle, and nice shooting. Glad you used the other camera down field. Being consistent with the ammo used is the key. Farther distance; The scope is the key. When your hits drop on target an adjustment to the scope is needed. Fantastic rifle. Thanks for the video.
Wow. What a beautiful and accurate rifle. You guys sure put together a nice mosin sporter. You take an old battle rifle and make something capable of comfortably using for any type of North American game. Well done. Keep up the good work. I really like watching you guys test out custom sporters for your happy customers. PS. It helps that you guys know what you're doing behind the rifle too. Excellent shooting.
"let's get *behind her* and shoot a few shots lol. super fun i myself had an idea: i would LOVE a behind the scenes look, nothing staged, from developing a video idea, to the preperation (i.e. doing some handloading and such, shooting the video and then,as a seperate video the edited version like we see it all the time. i know it's much to ask, but actually thinking about it, you would "just" have to take the camera with you in the reloading room and just sit it in the corner while you talke about idea. i would be super excited about a "documentary style" video like that. and i'm positive i'm not the only one :)
I understand why folks want to sporterize/customize a Mosin. It's fun and interesting. What I don't understand is that after all that money is spent on the parts and the work done to bring a Mosin up to modern specs, how is that better then just getting a modern gun with all the right parts to begin with? I would rather preserve the historical value of a milsurp than blow a wad of cash to make it modern when there are modern guns that work better. But as they say, different strokes for different folks.
I think they do it because of the price of the gun and how easy it is to find a mosin, there are millions of them and they're super cheap. Its an accurate, well designed rifle too so its easy to justify putting the aftermarket gear on it
If they do this then your precious historical value goes up. Look at 1903s you could get them for 11 bucks, now they go for anywhere between 800 to 3000 and I know there is a priceless one
I'm going to have to agree Odiex27 it's a waste of money. People that do this are the same reason why it's so hard to find a original Mauser or 1903 springfield. And why I'm priced out of owning one.
"Why would anyone sporterize a mosin?" Well, I got mine for free. Friend didn't care for his and it needed some work. New magazine spring and firing pin and it was as reliable as ever. Already had a Hogue stock on it, already had the barrel cut down to 24", wasn't a matching numbers gun, so I decided to make it a budget deer rifle. Why not, only other rifles I have are a .22 and an AK. plus 54r is a potent cartridge for what it is.
This is by far my favorite mosin sporter that y'all have made. It reminds me of an old school biathlon rifle. I found one Mosin sporter that was a "clone" of a Mannlicher Schonauer 1903 hunting rifle. It was gorgeous and y'all should definitely try to make one.
Those groups were very good. I think you were right on the flyers. At least that was my problem with my model 700. I glass bedded the action and free floated the barrel. I went thru the barrel chanel again and sanded down any potential high spots. I was told that if you could not get the barrel and stock to touch under reasonable pressure then it was free floated. The dollar bill test wasnt good enough. Anyway the second trip to the range the the rifle was putting 4 shot groups together touching with no flyers on a consistant basis. This out of a 30-06 22 inch stock remington 700 BDL made in the early 70s. Handloads were barnes TTSX 150 grain, 51 grains of H-4895, primer CCI BRC, COL. 3.218 case Winchester. I am currently working on a 30-06 build from a Yugo/mauser action made for Charles Daly, on a boyds walnut stock. I have to glass and pillar bed the stock and put in some cross bolt stock reinforcements and I will be done.
Man that little gem shoot's!, it must be fun to sporterize one of these rifle's and see just how good you can get with it,thank you for another great video guy's!!!...
Not bad at all. I thought that Mosin Nagant that you custom built a while back with the camo paint job was even more impressive. You shot some insane groups with factory match ammo with that one. This rifle looks like it is ready for this season's hunt though. Easy deer kill at 400 yards.
Hahahahahaha! This is by far my favorite mosin sporter ive ever seen. I would love to have that same setup! It's really classy looking with the brass and the wood on the stock! Nice!
I'm a purist, but I can appreciate the modded Mosin's. I just can't see putting that much into a Mosin. I love them, but if I were going to spend that much, I'd just build a modern rifle.
Repeat-ability and accuracy are two different things.. Accuracy is how close you can get to your point of aim. Repeat-ability is the ability to hit the closest to the point of impact repeatedly. You want both accuracy and repeat-ability.
Love your videos man, we need some more mosin. My dad is 88 this year and took his sixth Elk with his 91/30 this last season. I have the rifle now and plan to do the same. I have a few upgrades in mind but I have a few questions before I get started. You mentioned in one of your videos that you thought the mosin did well with a shorter barrel, I plan on cutting it down a bit so what barrel length/load would you recommend? I'll be using commercial ammo to start with. Also leaning toward an Arken scope. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
around 5:50 I believe you mean "precision" the definition of precise would be the ability to shoot the same spot (ei very small groups) over and over repeatedly and reliably, but then again with precision comes accuracy
Speaking of consistency, will the gun shoot at the same point of impact with the same load and setting say after 3,6,9 and 12 months? Test the gun every 3 months with the same load and setting.
Not bad at all. You know, people say that with these military surplus rifles and their thin barrels, there is "barrel whip" and they must be bedded a certain way with 5 lbs. of pressure pressing up on them from the end of the stock, and if you free float them you will ruin the accuracy... but if that 1 inch of stringing is what they mean by "ruining the accuracy".. well I'll take that group any day!!
What a cool rifle!
I have a Mosin Nagant M44, made in 1944, with wear showing someone carried this rifle all over the Eastern Front in WWII. I love every dent and blemish in the stock!
But the bore is perfect and it shoots like a dream.
much respect... this TH-cam channel is one of the main reasons I became interested and continue to be interested in firearms and the history of firearms. thanks to moss pawn and the crew I am considering gunsmithing school and making firearms my profession
5 stars. These videos are why I'm subbed. Fine rifle, quality production, outstanding editing, and very talented shooters.
There is a gazzilion Mosins gathering dust... messing with one is no big deal... Now it shoots twice as good too. If this Mosin could speak I'm sure it would be thankful for the new outfit, haircut and a gourmet meal. Living the Mosin dream.
I love the looks of the rifle, but that rail is absolutely hideous!
I love these long range grouping videos so much
I found your channel through a sporterized mosin build and I am glad to see you are still true to your roots. I can tell you my sporter with a boyds stock and a rock solid mount has taken 3 deer and 1 elk in the last 3 years. Not bad for a sub $400 investment. Oh and I can plink all day at the range with milsurp ammo for next to nothing.
that rail looks hideous
All these "ugh, how dare they do that to a mosin" comments... Honestly, do whatever the hell you want to your guns so long as it means you will enjoy shooting it more, or more often. There is a freakish number of stock old mosins out there, its nice to see one done up like this now and again.
Right? Not only that but it's a Mosin for christ sake. One of the cheapest and easiest to find rifles around in pretty much any given city in any state.
My guess is, if someone is gonna put that kind of money into a mosin they probably already have 12 of them. I think its great to take an old and tired (but tried and true) piece of steel and remake into something new and exciting. Like a resto-mod on a classic muscle car.
I personally would only do it to a 91/30 because there cheaper and more were made, now I would not modify the 1891 model hex receiver Mosin because they are hard and more expensive to get and also they are older, and a side note some early 1891 Mosins were made by Remington and it would be absolutely idiotic to cut or modify one of them.
truer words never spoken, but video and put it in the public domain.... aaahhh ..that bittersweet moisin kool-aid.
I must say, The cinematography in your videos has greatly improved in the last couple of months
I really appreciate your competitive banter.
WHAT HAVE YOU DONE THIS RUSSIAN BEAUTY
YOU KILLED IT
***** 37 million since 1891 actually.
Who in their right mind calls a mosin a beauty? A mauser yes but a mosin is the ugly stepchild of wartime bolt guns.
mark shuler What are you talking about? The mosin nagant that we know today has been around longer than the mouser that most people call mousers, and how is it a step child of wartime bolts when it is one of the first? How is it even a war time bolt when it came out in 1891 when there was not a war 13 years before it, and 8 years after it? To me a mosin is not ugly, it is not a stepchild, or a wartime bolt.
I like the looks of the Mosin. However you could buy a case of them cheap, and modify one and keep the rest original if you wanted to.
mark shuler
Plenty of people like the look of mosin, when its not a beat up wartime example but a nice shiny resto with a little custom work on the stock its a very nice looking rifle. What exactly makes the Mauser that much more beautiful in your eyes?
"You have to get behind it and take the time to get to know a RIFLE intimately" Spoken like a MARINE =)
Wasn't he in the army? or am I wrong?
yeah I think he was ARMY. Its just what it made me think of though.
Never said they were. Yet then again, they are the only branch where EVERYONE is trained on a RIFLE.
*****
lol, how many times must I say "to each their own"?
Semper Fi
I'll watch these vids all day, everyday.
You guys have the paramount of a Mosin. The Maxed-Mosin.
I cannot believe what you made of that gun, congratulations from old Hungary!
Wow, that is phenomenal accuracy in its true definition. I really need to get a project Mosin and turn it into something beautiful.
That is one sweet rifle, and nice shooting. Glad you used the other camera down field. Being consistent with the ammo used is the key. Farther distance; The scope is the key. When your hits drop on target an adjustment to the scope is needed. Fantastic rifle. Thanks for the video.
Wow. What a beautiful and accurate rifle. You guys sure put together a nice mosin sporter. You take an old battle rifle and make something capable of comfortably using for any type of North American game. Well done. Keep up the good work. I really like watching you guys test out custom sporters for your happy customers.
PS. It helps that you guys know what you're doing behind the rifle too. Excellent shooting.
"let's get *behind her* and shoot a few shots lol.
super fun
i myself had an idea: i would LOVE a behind the scenes look, nothing staged, from developing a video idea, to the preperation (i.e. doing some handloading and such, shooting the video and then,as a seperate video the edited version like we see it all the time. i know it's much to ask, but actually thinking about it, you would "just" have to take the camera with you in the reloading room and just sit it in the corner while you talke about idea. i would be super excited about a "documentary style" video like that. and i'm positive i'm not the only one :)
wow, just wow. Beautiful. Never thought a mosin could be so pretty.
Thank you... these type of video's is why I started watching this channel.. the best on TH-cam
Awesome rifle guys. Sure love my Mosin built up with RSI mount, bolt handle, and bedding pillars. She shoots beautifully
I understand why folks want to sporterize/customize a Mosin. It's fun and interesting. What I don't understand is that after all that money is spent on the parts and the work done to bring a Mosin up to modern specs, how is that better then just getting a modern gun with all the right parts to begin with? I would rather preserve the historical value of a milsurp than blow a wad of cash to make it modern when there are modern guns that work better. But as they say, different strokes for different folks.
I think they do it because of the price of the gun and how easy it is to find a mosin, there are millions of them and they're super cheap. Its an accurate, well designed rifle too so its easy to justify putting the aftermarket gear on it
If they do this then your precious historical value goes up. Look at 1903s you could get them for 11 bucks, now they go for anywhere between 800 to 3000 and I know there is a priceless one
I think it would just be cool to compete in a competition and beat everyone with a mosin
Shadow I'd rather they be afordable and acessable so that future generations can get there hands on them. That's the real value of history.
I'm going to have to agree Odiex27 it's a waste of money. People that do this are the same reason why it's so hard to find a original Mauser or 1903 springfield. And why I'm priced out of owning one.
WOW I think you have winner there, I'm glad I have one too.
"Why would anyone sporterize a mosin?"
Well, I got mine for free. Friend didn't care for his and it needed some work. New magazine spring and firing pin and it was as reliable as ever. Already had a Hogue stock on it, already had the barrel cut down to 24", wasn't a matching numbers gun, so I decided to make it a budget deer rifle. Why not, only other rifles I have are a .22 and an AK. plus 54r is a potent cartridge for what it is.
This is by far my favorite mosin sporter that y'all have made. It reminds me of an old school biathlon rifle. I found one Mosin sporter that was a "clone" of a Mannlicher Schonauer 1903 hunting rifle. It was gorgeous and y'all should definitely try to make one.
Those groups were very good. I think you were right on the flyers. At least that was my problem with my model 700. I glass bedded the action and free floated the barrel. I went thru the barrel chanel again and sanded down any potential high spots. I was told that if you could not get the barrel and stock to touch under reasonable pressure then it was free floated. The dollar bill test wasnt good enough. Anyway the second trip to the range the the rifle was putting 4 shot groups together touching with no flyers on a consistant basis. This out of a 30-06 22 inch stock remington 700 BDL made in the early 70s. Handloads were barnes TTSX 150 grain, 51 grains of H-4895, primer CCI BRC, COL. 3.218 case Winchester. I am currently working on a 30-06 build from a Yugo/mauser action made for Charles Daly, on a boyds walnut stock. I have to glass and pillar bed the stock and put in some cross bolt stock reinforcements and I will be done.
These lunch battles are the most fun!
Ah, at least it's a tasteful bubba.
Are you guys going to do a video showcasing the accuracy of different surplus 7.62x54R?
You guys have way too much fun !!
Man that little gem shoot's!, it must be fun to sporterize one of these rifle's and see just how good you can get with it,thank you for another great video guy's!!!...
Yeah my dad and I installed the timney trigger in his mosin a few month's back and the accuracy went from 2 or 3 in at 100 yards to 1in at 100
I have two 90/30 and M-44 carbine.Love to shoot at dusk as they both bark nice report.I can hit body sized targets all day at 200 yards.
Not bad at all. I thought that Mosin Nagant that you custom built a while back with the camo paint job was even more impressive. You shot some insane groups with factory match ammo with that one. This rifle looks like it is ready for this season's hunt though. Easy deer kill at 400 yards.
Hahahahahaha! This is by far my favorite mosin sporter ive ever seen. I would love to have that same setup! It's really classy looking with the brass and the wood on the stock! Nice!
Gorgeous!
Very sexy stock, but man... that rail is just ridiculous.
Could not have said it better!
It's really one of the easiest and most effective ways to mount on a split bridge receiver.
very nice filming , lighting the background are very nice.
LOL , always let Chad shoot. Really nice build. Love the stock and rail.
outstanding boys !! y'all did good.
Those where really good groups!
Very very cool that stock is awesome
The opening of this video gives me real Letterkenny Vibes
What a beautiful rifle!
What a great sporterizing job! This gun must be called MOSSIN :) ... Moss pawn & gun version of Mosin :)
Nice work guys. These vids are always great to watch.
Insane job guys! You guys always do the best Mosin vids I've ever seen. I will be calling you to inquire about a Mosin build soon!
Love your custom mosin videos!
Very Nice Shooting Eric
Your best work to date guys! Going to have my guy build me one of these.
great editing guys always love your videos they just keep getting better and better keep up the good work
That thing is hella cool!
That is some serious effort and money to dump into a Mosin.
Mosin Nagant love them for some reason idk why but i love em
You gonna leave that whole foot of excess rail just hanging off the front over the barrel there?
I love that precision just a excellent set up
That is a good looking rifle,..good shooting too guys.
Thats a damn sweet mosin. nicely done!
i like that you're not using a lead sled.
Sweet Mosin!
Do you prefer this modified Mosin over the green thumb hole stock build you guys did?
Great video , I enjoy watching you two have so much fun ringing steel. Wish I could have a range of my own to do that on. Thanks.
I'm a purist, but I can appreciate the modded Mosin's. I just can't see putting that much into a Mosin. I love them, but if I were going to spend that much, I'd just build a modern rifle.
Very informative and impressive! Great shooting guys!
My brother is putting together the exact same set-up for his mosin.
You should do a video about scope magnifications for various ranges, maybe different crosshairs also included...
this looks good to be honest
Love these videos....keep 'em coming.
Wow, this guys is so fast I could not even see him travel the bolt. Bruce lee would be proud.
I want that mosin, so pretty.
Nice rig!
Great video, thanks guys.
man I like these guys
i love shooting my mosin it is a 1942 . and i have a 1932 hex also.i have not shot it to many times yet it is to nice
Beautiful rifle. Nasty rail. Kills the rifle
I would really like to see a mosin mounted on a archangel stock with the m-24 top rail
awesome video, very informative and phenomenal shooting too :)
max shepherd does a great job on bolts
2:50 in the movie The Patriot, is this what they meant with "aim small, miss small"?
lovely a soviet rifle with a american stock scope mount and muzzelbreack and ofcorse a german scope
When you go so far past bubba it actually becomes amazing.
Good job guys
Nice video, but can you show some footage of how it was built? thx.
Chad, respect. Much respect.
Loved this!!
awesome rifle!
25th December 2020.
Still extremely interesting!🙂
Chad = When shooter is better than said ammunition!
Repeat-ability and accuracy are two different things.. Accuracy is how close you can get to your point of aim. Repeat-ability is the ability to hit the closest to the point of impact repeatedly. You want both accuracy and repeat-ability.
SWEET! ANOTHER MOSIN VIDEO! :D :D
I wanna see Eric, Hickok45, and FPSRussia on the next season of TOP SHOT
I think Top Shot is done now.
Holden Roth that's what people are saying. it was such a good show.
***** That show was garbage.
The show sucked, but Hickok would win.
***** Because they don't make a 307 Mosin!
Man, look at that diopter. You must be as blind as I am. That actually gives me hope.
How long is the barrel?
I want to have a go!!
Love your videos man, we need some more mosin. My dad is 88 this year and took his sixth Elk with his 91/30 this last season. I have the rifle now and plan to do the same. I have a few upgrades in mind but I have a few questions before I get started. You mentioned in one of your videos that you thought the mosin did well with a shorter barrel, I plan on cutting it down a bit so what barrel length/load would you recommend? I'll be using commercial ammo to start with. Also leaning toward an Arken scope. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks.
around 5:50 I believe you mean "precision" the definition of precise would be the ability to shoot the same spot (ei very small groups) over and over repeatedly and reliably, but then again with precision comes accuracy
Speaking of consistency, will the gun shoot at the same point of impact with the same load and setting say after 3,6,9 and 12 months? Test the gun every 3 months with the same load and setting.
Would love to see ***** do a side by side with a Timney trigger like in this Mosin vs a Huber Customs trigger.
Good job!
Not bad at all. You know, people say that with these military surplus rifles and their thin barrels, there is "barrel whip" and they must be bedded a certain way with 5 lbs. of pressure pressing up on them from the end of the stock, and if you free float them you will ruin the accuracy... but if that 1 inch of stringing is what they mean by "ruining the accuracy".. well I'll take that group any day!!