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Ive seen WHOTEEWHOs videos before, but now i have a huge amount of respect after hearing his answers. A voice of reason in a sea of whiz-bang new caliber madness.
WTW is a solid dude. I love that he can articulate the why behind everything he does. He's honest and ethical which are two traits you don't see too often together anymore.
ok, I get it. But if you are asking versatility, 270 Win. Period. Flat shooting, powerful enough for most anything and a wide assortment of bullets and bullet weights. 100 grain to 150 grain in all bullet styles. 160 Nosler partition will stabilize in a 1:10 twist and launch 2750 to upwards of 2800 fps. That'll lay down most larger NA game without issue. Very reasonable recoil too.
@Adam - South Africa and a 30-06 is like corruption and the ANC. They cant go without each other. I shoot a 30-06 AI when I'm not sure what I'm looking for that trip, but just looking to fill the freezer. Its super versatile, accurate and hits like a hammer. We have a local powder S361 that is similar to Reloader 22. It bumps a 178gr ELD-X to 2850fps. Just use decent brass, Starline is my go to.
Surprised you picked 450BM x2. It is a good cartridge. I guess I hold a grudge against it living in a straight wall state and being "forced" to use it.
I was saying this with the “if I could have only one” question. .270 would be the go to for me. Not saying it’s perfect but it would do for most anything I’d hunt.
Warms my heart to see _any_ mention of the *6.8 Western.* It has rapidly become my new favorite cartridge these past few years. Stay classy my friends.
Hi Adam an jim..an the other 2 guys....my pick is the old 30-06 for everything... from coyotes to big moose an bears...i been using it for over 30+years it always works for me...shotplacement is everything....
Although I don’t own a 30/06 you are not wrong. It does it all. I like my 308 and have taken deer out to 300, moose out to 250, bear out to 225, However, if I were to do it again I’d get a 30/06 with 24” barrel. Just a little extra over 308win. 180 partitions for elk/moose/bear 165 accubond for all deer
The 30-06 Springfield is literally an international cartridge. It's even popular in Europe. Probably because of 7.62 NATO creating a plethora of manufacturing surrounding THAT common caliber - barrel tooling, bullet design, etc. FNH shipped many M24 commercial M98s all over, including some to Swedish maker Carl Gustav, who made them in several US calibers, the most numerous being 30-06, if GB ads are any indication. And no weak old pre-98 actions to worry with...though the early "American Mauser" (M1903) had some metallurgy issues, which renders the oldest ones unsafe with full service loads regardless.
No wrong picks in this video. I found myself in cahoots with Who Tee Who most. Here in Alaska 30-06 is the one rifle cartridge to do it all. The state even recommends it for big game hunting.
Maybe I am just an old soul but .30-06 has been my big rifle round my whole life. First rifle at 15 was .30-06, all my male relatives used it and guided me to it. Finally started doing long range shooting and I still love it, even the "cheap" (still like .75c a round!) ball ammo I shoot is getting sub moa past 500 yards, and its just fun as hell to shoot a big bullet. I really like 6.5 rifles I've tried but I think Im just a glutton for recoil cause it feels so anemic.
A lot of it depends on where you live and hunt. Most guys where I'm from start with 243 win and then graduate to a 270, 30-06, 7 mag, or 300wm as an adult. Antelope, Mike deer, elk, black bear are the most common game and those calibers give you the ability to cleanly take them all
I was able to buy my first big game hunting license when I was 14 years old. Fifty seven years later I still hunt all the game southern Colorado has to offer. I carried a Rossi Puma 20 inch .357 carbine in my truck as a truck gun. I harvested three elk with that rifle. Chose a rifle that isn't to much overkill and will overlap when considering game critters. After years of handloading for all the rifles I've owned I got rid of all magnum rifles except the .300 win. mag. but I gave it to my son. My choice if I could only have one cartridge to hunt anything in Colorado would be my .275 Rigby (7x57).
The 357 mag interests me, for what I am doing down in Australia. Pigs, goats, fallow deer, chital deer, The general max range I have been dropping them is 200 metres the closets has been about 5 metres. Handy lever action might be worth a try. I used have a 30 30 model 94. Great for dropping whitetail back in new Zealand and Red deer in the bush
Great discussion. Here’s my take for the guys who can’t afford many different rifles. The guy who can get one good rifle for all purposes. The old .30-06. Not trying to be a Fudd, just realistic. The .30-06 is readily available and there are a lot of bullet designs and weights available. It can be loaded heavy or light. Get a 220 grain for bear, a 180 grain for moose, a 150 grain for deer… It’s way overkill for prairie dogs, but will adequately tackle any large game. I’ve personally shot moose with a 165 grain A-Frame and it went down quickly with one shot. The recoil is manageable. Ammo is easy to come up. Lot’s of rifle options. It’s a great choice for those who want an all-around gun.
Adam is definitely a man after my own heart. His choices (outside of the .450 Bushmaster) were nearly identical to mine. I love older cartridges. A bit surprised .270 Win never made an appearance.
I know there’s a ton of videos on this subject but it never stops being a fun topic to discuss! So I’ll add my two cents 😁. One caliber for life would be the 270 It just plain works and I love the new calibers but I always find myself carrying my 270. With that said, Jim I’d love to see you try out the 7 backcountry on that caribou hunt so we can get some more feedback on it! -Also was floored you didn’t pick 7 mag as your one caliber for everything lol
If I was only allowed to own one cartridge, it'd be the 300 PRC. I can load light bullets for regular game, and heavy bullets to go after huge sized animals.
I'm from Ohio and. We are limited to straight wall. As far as deer hunting for me, it's the 450 Bush master. I am planning on a bear hunt to Maine this fall. I will be taken the 450 Bush master.
Nice to see Adam on the show 2 of my favorite channels together today , you guys have a slightly different perspective on calibers but neither is wrong and that’s great information for the public to have , Great job fellas keep it up
Hi Jim. You mentioned your kids shot a Blue Wildebeest in Africa,. The picture is actually that of a Black Wildebeest. We have a hunting ranch in Africa and have quite a couple of Blacks. The smallest cartridge recommendation is a 6.5 mm, however, we prefer clients to use 7mm or bigger. BW's are tough buggers and are known as the "poor mans Buffalo". It is much more difficult to hunt than the Blue Wildebeest. Blacks are plains game animals where as Blues like bushy terrains, as a result you will be lucky to shoot a Black at distances shorter than 150 meters, and most of the time with a stiff wind from the side. 7PRC in 168gr or higher will be an ideal choice. Tx for great content..
The black wildebeest is NO FREAKING JOKE!!!!! They are mean and tough to put down. They have like 18 times the senses of their blue cousins. They are a serious game animal. And LARGER on the hoof by a long ways.
@@AllAboutSurvival Imo that makes zero sense more animals have been killed with sharp rocks, than all the gun kills combined, it is shot placement with a good bullet that kills , a gut shot animal is still gut shot no matter if it is a 22 or a 338 lapua you do not need to own multiple rifles to hunt different species you need to be good with the one you shoot.
I agree with this, especially the "matching to habitat bit", which is often totally forgotten about. A 7mm mag might be a good round for moose, but in a huge majority of their range they are generally hunted in thick brush, and something that works out of a shorter barrel is a better choice IMO.
my hunting rifles, 40 years of hunting Montana. 22-250, 243, 30/06 (90% of the time) 358 and 9.3 x 62 Mauser. I did however use my 1895 Winchester for a buffalo. I load the 06 to modern pressure, it shoots a lot flatter than it gets credit for and my go to is 165 SST for Deer/Antelope and 200 grandslam for elk. Last 5 or 6 years I've packed the 9.3 for elk and it shoots well with the 250 accubond at 2600 fps and hits hard!
I hunt whitetail and hogs and coyotes in Missouri all with a 6.5 creedmoore never lost a animal. Not saying it's a elk ride but works great for my area
I have seen shot and shot a bucket load of pronghorn Antelope. The furthest shot I have ever taken on one was 300 yards. The average would have to be in the 150 yard range. You can use the contours of the terrain to get closer than 600 or 400 yards.
I'm with you! I prefer to do all my hunting before I take the shot, not after. If you need to shoot a Antelope at 4 or 500 yds, you need to learn to hunt, or realize that sometimes the animal wins.
@@jeffhays1968 Then there's also the fact... if you've got a moose at 500 yards, it usually doesnt take a terribly good hunter to close that distance by at least half.
08:39 A colleague got an Aoudad with a .300 WM at about 220 yards. The animal turned and charged at him. By the time he chambered another round, it finally dropped. It ran 30 yards on its last heartbeat. Hearty beasts, indeed. And Texas is the place, of all places, to find Barbary sheep like that.
I think people sometimes forget that animals don't just drop over immediately after being shot every time. Does it happen? Yes, but there are plenty of times a great shot with a powerful cartridge doesn't cause an immediate death.
That’s my two rifle battery. I have two almost identical left hand green laminate stainless Ruger Hawkeyes, one in 25-06 and the other in 375 Ruger. I own other rifles too but those two cover ever I could ever want to hunt anywhere anytime.
.308 for all of it actually, just using different bullet weights but default to 180 grain if you have no choices. All these newer or popular cartridge choices are fine. But I have used a .308 bolt gun for decades on nearly all your game choices with great results, why change ?
308 offers some great advantages like bullet availability, good barrel life, and reasonable prices for a box of ammo. Also if you want to hunt with an AR style rifle an AR 10 in 308 is a solid option. Lots to love about a 308 and I bet all the animals on the list would still be dead with a 308.
Jim rigged the whitetail deer question by saying 150 yards and closer. He just wanted to use a lever gun. From watching whoteewho, i get the impression Adam isn't a big fan of leverguns. These videos are entertaining. 👍
A model 70 Winchester 7mm rem mag was the first deer rifle i ever bought when i was 16 years old, ive bought many other rifles but never needed to do so, i stil prefer the 7mm mag. Next choice would be my weatherby 25-06.
How many videos is the internet gonna make on this topic? Pick a round adequate for the game you’re hunting, pick a round you can shoot comfortably and stay within your range! Stay within those parameters and it don’t matter what you shoot!🤷🏻♂️
@@JJ-iu5hl views from people with no Idea of how to hunt and they are looking for short cuts there are none it takes time and the will to learn to be a good hunter.
Agreed. It’s like the videos on “what’s better for personal defense? 9mm, 357, 45 or 10mm ?” And the conclusion is the same at the end of every video. “ shoot what you feel comfortable shooting and are accurate with” blah blah blah blah 🙄
Funny thing is, I was just reading a book written by a rancher in British Columbia in the 30's. They were shooting moose with savage 99's in 250-3000. Which is kinda crazy tbh
For mule deer and rocky mountain elk I use a 25-06 100gr nosler BT it does the work I never had to track them or shoot them again last year for my moose hunt I used a 300 ultra mag 168gr nosler BT and used on a elk for elk and deer I prefer my 25-06 note I only hunt in colorado and live here to
All depends on where you hunt. The 338 wm is the most popular round in Alaska for taking animals like bears, caribou, and moose. Yes it is overkill for the boos, but you need to remember that bears and moose are going to be around when hunting caribou.
35 Whelen and assuming your a reloader, you can come up with a load light enough or heavy enough to take "all of the things". From Prarie dogs to polar bears, from rabbits to reindeer.
For deer/caribou size animals 7 rem mag or 7 prc For Moose/Bison 30-378 wby or 300 rum For Grizzly/black bear, Couger,Brown bear 416 ruger or 338-378 wby
You aren't taking into account the terrain factor IMO. Especially for moose which, outside of the outfitted Disneyland experience, are often hunted in thick bush. I took my 11th moose this year, tracked him in the snow and made a quick snapshot as he rose out of his bed at 60 yards. For that type of hunting I'd take the 30-06 I was carrying over any rig you mentioned.
.30-06 is always the right answer for hunting. And renewing my recommendation/request for you to get a Benelli Lupo in .30-06 as your .30-06 to review and the Benelli to be reviewed, too.
Jim, Those Wildebeest are SOOOOOO tough. I'm pretty sure if the shot was all the same but you used any bigger cartridge, you would have had the same result with the wildebeest. My brother shot one straight through the heart with 165gr 30-06 bonded bullet, it still ran off and only fell after the second shot.
Haha same here but I don't even like to mention it because there's so many idiots that think a 300wm will blow a whitetail in half at 100y and I don't feel like arguing. I have made the switch to 300prc though recently and have no complaints.
@chrisgualtieri hey I'm only a step above living in a van down by the river haha I'm in a cabin down by the creek with a population of 200. I get all my ammo online. Be thankful were in America though I talked to a guy in Australia that said 300prc is 7-8$ a round! I don't have a mailing address though other than a po box so had to work out a deal in town where I can have my ammo shipped lol where there's a will there's a way. But if 300wm is available you honestly have all you need already
@ Right on! I reload, so it wouldn’t be too difficult to get a new caliber. I have been doing a lot of reading on it since you commented and it’s a really, really cool cartridge. My wife isn’t going to be happy with me…
I enjoyed that video. I have so many deer rifles I have a big choice. Largest is not for deer but I have a ruger number 1 in 458 win mag. I always wanted that and a 264 model 70 so I have both now and I'm 71 and retired and almost at end of my hunting. All the calibers I have will stomp the breath out of you and I'm 6'5" about 250 now but no matter I feel pain too and very very arthritic.
Been looking at getting my first big game rifle and as much as i like the 7mag I've decided to go with 30-06. Being in Canada the cost of ammo becomes a big issue, why pay $95 a box in 7mag when you can get the same bullet from the same manufacturer for $50 a box in 30-06....this same issue cuts out all of the PRC's the 8.6 western and all of the other newer calibers as they cost more than the 7mag.
I normally use a 4570 1895g marlin lever or buffalo classic 4570 or mag research 10" barrel revolver with a scope and 450 marlin lever. I don't do deer trailing either. Also 257 weatherby mag 3030 win lever 38-55, 444 marlin, 35 rem lever etc.
I was very surprised that none of those answers were a 308. I think that’s the answer for most of those animals other than the really big game which I would of stepped up to a 300wm
Could you or have you done a video on the pros and cons of after market stocks? I just see all the cut outs on chassis systems and imagine they get caught on every branch if you are hunting with it. Are the full stock options a good alternative for someone who wants a field and range rifle? Stuff like that, your thoughts on the situation as a whole? I know I've seen you take a chassis system hunting was that because you were in open country and using atvs so getting hung up on branches was never really going yo be an issue? Anyway awesome channel. I'd love to see this as a video if it already is please reply with the link?
Reindeer: the 6,5x55 is THE reindeer caliber. Have killed them with 300wsm, but the 6,5x55 kills just as fast and is superior for shot placement from field positions.
It’s interesting to me that 7rm and 7prc, 300 win and 300 prc each in their respective classes are basically ballistic twins yet most chose the older cartridge. The trend is certainly short barrels and lighter recoil which no one spoke to, these are their choices but with the wealth of knowledge and resources these guys have ide love to see some info or testing on 20-22” rifles. I’m a firm believer that speed kills especially when paired with efficient bullets but I have to admit it is way more fun using my shorter barreled options. What says the masses?
For those of use trying to learn as we watch, please post same data fields for all categories… for me recoil is critical and not listing it on all of them in this video made it hard to keep things straight
I have two rifles for big game, a 7 PRC and a 375 Ruger. Either will work for what I'm after in North America without being too much. The 375 has handloads running 2400-2700 ft-lbs for whitetail and factory Barnes running 4700+.
Play the game again (I’ve done this in hunting camp) go through the list of animals again, name as many African animals too. Choose your cartridge, but you can’t choose the same one twice
I am at a disadvantage because I have not shot any of the newer calibers. In AK (home) I use a 7mm remington for most hunts. I will step to the 338 depending upon where in AK I am hunting. Elk, deer, and hogs the 270 and the 300wsm were among my favorite rifles. Shoot range I always like the 45-70. If I only had 1 hunting rifle it would be a 7mm remington
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"The .30-'06 is never a mistake."-Col. Townsend Whelen.
He, of course, was correct. All that's changed since his time is marketing and those who fall for it.
👆such a dumb comment.
Only if it’s accurate because “Only accurate guns are interesting”
@@boatsanhs9709 Hate the 30-06 ??
Good on Adam for giving '06 and 35 Whelen some love.
Yes .35 I built shoots one hole w 225 very impressive
Amen! The 35 Whelen is my do -all gun here in Alaska. Good to 400 yards on anything up here.
Ive seen WHOTEEWHOs videos before, but now i have a huge amount of respect after hearing his answers. A voice of reason in a sea of whiz-bang new caliber madness.
WTW is a solid dude. I love that he can articulate the why behind everything he does. He's honest and ethical which are two traits you don't see too often together anymore.
The entire video I could imagine a fifth guy with gray hair and a beard holding a plate that said "30-06 TWO WORLD WARS"
😂
Or like Scandinavians!6.5×55 and 30 06 probably!
ok, I get it. But if you are asking versatility, 270 Win. Period. Flat shooting, powerful enough for most anything and a wide assortment of bullets and bullet weights. 100 grain to 150 grain in all bullet styles. 160 Nosler partition will stabilize in a 1:10 twist and launch 2750 to upwards of 2800 fps. That'll lay down most larger NA game without issue. Very reasonable recoil too.
270 is outdated magnum recoil short action performance
@@joshgardner7268😂😂😂
Josh, do your research, you'll figure out why it's been around for 100 years and still has a HUGE following. From Young kids to old fuds.
Magnum? Short Action? Huh?
Nah, 7 rem mag over 270 all day everyday. Period.
Such a fun video! Great to see you guys! Thanks for sharing your knowledge!
It was awesome seeing you on the show you 2 are my favorite channels keep it up 👍
@Adam - South Africa and a 30-06 is like corruption and the ANC. They cant go without each other. I shoot a 30-06 AI when I'm not sure what I'm looking for that trip, but just looking to fill the freezer. Its super versatile, accurate and hits like a hammer. We have a local powder S361 that is similar to Reloader 22. It bumps a 178gr ELD-X to 2850fps. Just use decent brass, Starline is my go to.
Surprised you picked 450BM x2. It is a good cartridge. I guess I hold a grudge against it living in a straight wall state and being "forced" to use it.
Whoteewho is my go to guy to watch these days.
Also I chose the 30-06 or the 308 if I only had one.
@@kellym3531 why do you feel forced to use it when you have other options?
No mention of the .270 Win…clearly a younger crowd!
Lol I just bought a .270 win as my first bolt action rifle and I was sad they never mentioned it once
I was saying this with the “if I could have only one” question. .270 would be the go to for me. Not saying it’s perfect but it would do for most anything I’d hunt.
For anything that walks to feed you,3006 for anything that walks to feed on you 338 win mag +
I'd have to go with Adam's pick on most of these
Yeah, his picks are great, and generally much more budget minded than the PRC crowd.
Here's a three rifle battery I use. 6mm Rem, .264 Win Mag & 300 H&H Mag been getting it done for over 45 years.
Warms my heart to see _any_ mention of the *6.8 Western.*
It has rapidly become my new favorite cartridge these past few years.
Stay classy my friends.
WHO TEE WHO THE MASTER OF ALL THE CHOICES! MY HILLBILLY BROTHER!
I'm surprised he didn't choose CVA 22-250 for all shots
He is one of the best gun guys on TH-cam.
Hi Adam an jim..an the other 2 guys....my pick is the old 30-06 for everything... from coyotes to big moose an bears...i been using it for over 30+years it always works for me...shotplacement is everything....
Although I don’t own a 30/06 you are not wrong. It does it all.
I like my 308 and have taken deer out to 300, moose out to 250, bear out to 225,
However, if I were to do it again I’d get a 30/06 with 24” barrel. Just a little extra over 308win.
180 partitions for elk/moose/bear
165 accubond for all deer
You are exactly right!!!!!
@@albertaoutdoors9220 dont sell the good old Hornady Interlock BTSP 165gr short. It's still a valid bullet at a very good price :-)
The 30-06 Springfield is literally an international cartridge. It's even popular in Europe. Probably because of 7.62 NATO creating a plethora of manufacturing surrounding THAT common caliber - barrel tooling, bullet design, etc. FNH shipped many M24 commercial M98s all over, including some to Swedish maker Carl Gustav, who made them in several US calibers, the most numerous being 30-06, if GB ads are any indication. And no weak old pre-98 actions to worry with...though the early "American Mauser" (M1903) had some metallurgy issues, which renders the oldest ones unsafe with full service loads regardless.
@@hypervdm my go to is federal fusion 150gr....it works very good for me....I took very large animals with it
I go with Adam on the 450 Bushmaster for deer, I hit a 250 lbs buck and he dropped on the spot. My new favorite deer round.
No wrong picks in this video. I found myself in cahoots with Who Tee Who most. Here in Alaska 30-06 is the one rifle cartridge to do it all. The state even recommends it for big game hunting.
Maybe I am just an old soul but .30-06 has been my big rifle round my whole life. First rifle at 15 was .30-06, all my male relatives used it and guided me to it. Finally started doing long range shooting and I still love it, even the "cheap" (still like .75c a round!) ball ammo I shoot is getting sub moa past 500 yards, and its just fun as hell to shoot a big bullet. I really like 6.5 rifles I've tried but I think Im just a glutton for recoil cause it feels so anemic.
A lot of it depends on where you live and hunt. Most guys where I'm from start with 243 win and then graduate to a 270, 30-06, 7 mag, or 300wm as an adult. Antelope, Mike deer, elk, black bear are the most common game and those calibers give you the ability to cleanly take them all
One of the best colabs!!!
I'm an old fashioned .30-06 guy. 120 years of experience and data, can't be wrong.
I was able to buy my first big game hunting license when I was 14 years old. Fifty seven years later I still hunt all the game southern Colorado has to offer. I carried a Rossi Puma 20 inch .357 carbine in my truck as a truck gun. I harvested three elk with that rifle. Chose a rifle that isn't to much overkill and will overlap when considering game critters. After years of handloading for all the rifles I've owned I got rid of all magnum rifles except the .300 win. mag. but I gave it to my son. My choice if I could only have one cartridge to hunt anything in Colorado would be my .275 Rigby (7x57).
I killed my pope and young antelope @ 25 yards....mathews bow rocket broadhead he went 10ft.
The 357 mag interests me, for what I am doing down in Australia. Pigs, goats, fallow deer, chital deer, The general max range I have been dropping them is 200 metres the closets has been about 5 metres. Handy lever action might be worth a try. I used have a 30 30 model 94. Great for dropping whitetail back in new Zealand and Red deer in the bush
What blows my mind is 7mm mag was used way more than anything else. WOW
It’s no surprise if you a western hunter the big 7 and 300 win are practically in the hands of every other hunter
Great to see Mr. WHO TEE WHO on your channel!
Great discussion. Here’s my take for the guys who can’t afford many different rifles. The guy who can get one good rifle for all purposes. The old .30-06. Not trying to be a Fudd, just realistic. The .30-06 is readily available and there are a lot of bullet designs and weights available. It can be loaded heavy or light. Get a 220 grain for bear, a 180 grain for moose, a 150 grain for deer… It’s way overkill for prairie dogs, but will adequately tackle any large game. I’ve personally shot moose with a 165 grain A-Frame and it went down quickly with one shot. The recoil is manageable. Ammo is easy to come up. Lot’s of rifle options. It’s a great choice for those who want an all-around gun.
Awesome glad to hear that your going to build
A 6.8 western 👍
Adam is definitely a man after my own heart. His choices (outside of the .450 Bushmaster) were nearly identical to mine. I love older cartridges. A bit surprised .270 Win never made an appearance.
Wow, not one mention of the 270 WIN.
All I kept hearing was .270 win. Strange.
No love for the 270? or 270 WSM?
I’d take my 270 wsm for most of these except grizzly and bison
In the middle of .264/.284
In grizzly country, keep your optic dialed DOWN to its LOWEST setting.
300wsm hands ✋️ down
Yea it has its place
Wish the 280 Ackley was more common, to me one of the most versatile cartridges.
The 308.
I know there’s a ton of videos on this subject but it never stops being a fun topic to discuss! So I’ll add my two cents 😁. One caliber for life would be the 270 It just plain works and I love the new calibers but I always find myself carrying my 270. With that said, Jim I’d love to see you try out the 7 backcountry on that caribou hunt so we can get some more feedback on it! -Also was floored you didn’t pick 7 mag as your one caliber for everything lol
22-250, 300 win mag, 338 win mag would cover all the hunts they asked. The prc is just over hyped in my opinion.
Caribou my favorite 708 or 270 win
260 rem and 6.5x55
Out to around three hundred yards the 270 is faster and flatter shooting with less recoil.
270 is my favorite too. Although, the 308 and 300wsm for the trick as well.
If I was only allowed to own one cartridge, it'd be the 300 PRC. I can load light bullets for regular game, and heavy bullets to go after huge sized animals.
I'm from Ohio and. We are limited to straight wall. As far as deer hunting for me, it's the 450 Bush master. I am planning on a bear hunt to Maine this fall. I will be taken the 450 Bush master.
Shot placement in my opinion is more important than anything.
Nice to see Adam on the show 2 of my favorite channels together today , you guys have a slightly different perspective on calibers but neither is wrong and that’s great information for the public to have , Great job fellas keep it up
Hi Jim. You mentioned your kids shot a Blue Wildebeest in Africa,. The picture is actually that of a Black Wildebeest. We have a hunting ranch in Africa and have quite a couple of Blacks. The smallest cartridge recommendation is a 6.5 mm, however, we prefer clients to use 7mm or bigger. BW's are tough buggers and are known as the "poor mans Buffalo". It is much more difficult to hunt than the Blue Wildebeest. Blacks are plains game animals where as Blues like bushy terrains, as a result you will be lucky to shoot a Black at distances shorter than 150 meters, and most of the time with a stiff wind from the side. 7PRC in 168gr or higher will be an ideal choice. Tx for great content..
The black wildebeest is NO FREAKING JOKE!!!!! They are mean and tough to put down. They have like 18 times the senses of their blue cousins. They are a serious game animal. And LARGER on the hoof by a long ways.
Personally, I believe that matching the cartridge to the animal's size and habitat can make all the difference in ensuring a humane and ethical hunt.
@@AllAboutSurvival Imo that makes zero sense more animals have been killed with sharp rocks, than all the gun kills combined, it is shot placement with a good bullet that kills , a gut shot animal is still gut shot no matter if it is a 22 or a 338 lapua you do not need to own multiple rifles to hunt different species you need to be good with the one you shoot.
I agree with this, especially the "matching to habitat bit", which is often totally forgotten about. A 7mm mag might be a good round for moose, but in a huge majority of their range they are generally hunted in thick brush, and something that works out of a shorter barrel is a better choice IMO.
From the UK, 270wsm for the big stuff and 220 swift for the little stuff.
Is 270 wsm common in the UK?
For me, whitetails to moose .308 hornady superformance 150 to 165 grain cx or sst with my Antler Arms wild mountain rifle.
Thanks for taking old WhoTeeWho along on the trip really good content
my hunting rifles, 40 years of hunting Montana. 22-250, 243, 30/06 (90% of the time) 358 and 9.3 x 62 Mauser. I did however use my 1895 Winchester for a buffalo. I load the 06 to modern pressure, it shoots a lot flatter than it gets credit for and my go to is 165 SST for Deer/Antelope and 200 grandslam for elk. Last 5 or 6 years I've packed the 9.3 for elk and it shoots well with the 250 accubond at 2600 fps and hits hard!
I hunt whitetail and hogs and coyotes in Missouri all with a 6.5 creedmoore never lost a animal. Not saying it's a elk ride but works great for my area
I agree with the 308 on everything.
As always, great advice and education. And the landscape behind you guys was amazing
I have seen shot and shot a bucket load of pronghorn Antelope. The furthest shot I have ever taken on one was 300 yards. The average would have to be in the 150 yard range. You can use the contours of the terrain to get closer than 600 or 400 yards.
I'm with you! I prefer to do all my hunting before I take the shot, not after. If you need to shoot a Antelope at 4 or 500 yds, you need to learn to hunt, or realize that sometimes the animal wins.
My picks for most everything are 270 Win, 30-06, and 300 WSM. Varmint stuff, 22-250. Hogs, 7.62x39.
The .284 projectile is the king from way back !
Adam’s making me feel good about my 7mag purchase last year, hopefully I’ll take an elk with it this year
No African or Antelope or Grizzly or mountain goat or bison . Still picking my .308 bolt and 180 grain slug. Yes, I have used it on moose.
As have lots at a reasonable range
@@longstar550 .308 is good to 500 yards in my opinion. Also my opinion over 500 yards is too damn far, so works for me.
@@jeffhays1968 Then there's also the fact... if you've got a moose at 500 yards, it usually doesnt take a terribly good hunter to close that distance by at least half.
@@bushleague3472 I would not take that shot anyway.
08:39 A colleague got an Aoudad with a .300 WM at about 220 yards. The animal turned and charged at him. By the time he chambered another round, it finally dropped. It ran 30 yards on its last heartbeat. Hearty beasts, indeed. And Texas is the place, of all places, to find Barbary sheep like that.
I think people sometimes forget that animals don't just drop over immediately after being shot every time. Does it happen? Yes, but there are plenty of times a great shot with a powerful cartridge doesn't cause an immediate death.
25/06 can do most of what game you mentioned! Know of many mule deer and elk shot with great success by the 25……
That’s my two rifle battery. I have two almost identical left hand green laminate stainless Ruger Hawkeyes, one in 25-06 and the other in 375 Ruger. I own other rifles too but those two cover ever I could ever want to hunt anywhere anytime.
.308 for all of it actually, just using different bullet weights but default to 180 grain if you have no choices. All these newer or popular cartridge choices are fine. But I have used a .308 bolt gun for decades on nearly all your game choices with great results, why change ?
308 is for the poors. My only bolt gun is 308.
308 offers some great advantages like bullet availability, good barrel life, and reasonable prices for a box of ammo. Also if you want to hunt with an AR style rifle an AR 10 in 308 is a solid option. Lots to love about a 308 and I bet all the animals on the list would still be dead with a 308.
@ I'm in on the poors for sure. I'm a two shotgun, two bolt gun, two AR (one in .22) and six handguns poor. Never knew I was a poor until YT told me.
I'd go with a lighter bullet weight than 180 in a .308, but it's a great round.
You should try the 176 A-Tips for hunting……👍🏻
Jim rigged the whitetail deer question by saying 150 yards and closer. He just wanted to use a lever gun. From watching whoteewho, i get the impression Adam isn't a big fan of leverguns. These videos are entertaining. 👍
A model 70 Winchester 7mm rem mag was the first deer rifle i ever bought when i was 16 years old, ive bought many other rifles but never needed to do so, i stil prefer the 7mm mag. Next choice would be my weatherby 25-06.
How many videos is the internet gonna make on this topic? Pick a round adequate for the game you’re hunting, pick a round you can shoot comfortably and stay within your range! Stay within those parameters and it don’t matter what you shoot!🤷🏻♂️
The videos keep getting millions of views. Apparently people like the topic.
They’ll make them until a little after they quit being easy money.
@@JJ-iu5hl views from people with no Idea of how to hunt and they are looking for short cuts there are none it takes time and the will to learn to be a good hunter.
Agreed. It’s like the videos on “what’s better for personal defense? 9mm, 357, 45 or 10mm ?” And the conclusion is the same at the end of every video. “ shoot what you feel comfortable shooting and are accurate with” blah blah blah blah 🙄
Haha and you’re here commenting on the video, driving their engagement up. I wonder why they keep making these 😅
I watch all of these guys love to see them together doing this.
I use .30-30 on tree stand deer hunts where I can only see 100 or less. I Use Hornady 160 FTX… they never take a step!
I am so happy for you Jim, almost at 1 mill subs🥳❤
Excellent video guys. Excellent information and I would agree with all of you. Thanks!!!!
Funny thing is, I was just reading a book written by a rancher in British Columbia in the 30's. They were shooting moose with savage 99's in 250-3000. Which is kinda crazy tbh
6 ARC for varmints. 6.5 prc for anything smaller than an elk. Bear, Elk, and up 300 WSM. Barnes TTSX in both.
Very nice selections.
For mule deer and rocky mountain elk I use a 25-06 100gr nosler BT it does the work I never had to track them or shoot them again last year for my moose hunt I used a 300 ultra mag 168gr nosler BT and used on a elk for elk and deer I prefer my 25-06 note I only hunt in colorado and live here to
I would have loved to hear what caliber sidearm you carry in the woods. And favorite handgun hunting round for whitetails/hogs
Can you do a video on a .300WSM
It’s never talked about but I like my 264win mag
6.8 Western for am my big game hunting
All depends on where you hunt. The 338 wm is the most popular round in Alaska for taking animals like bears, caribou, and moose. Yes it is overkill for the boos, but you need to remember that bears and moose are going to be around when hunting caribou.
I think this video has set you apart.
Nicely done….informative and entertaining
35 Whelen and assuming your a reloader, you can come up with a load light enough or heavy enough to take "all of the things". From Prarie dogs to polar bears, from rabbits to reindeer.
💯 correct. 35 Whelen can do everything on their list if you are a hand loader.
@timeverett7828 It's a hell of a cartridge
For deer/caribou size animals 7 rem mag or 7 prc
For Moose/Bison 30-378 wby or 300 rum
For Grizzly/black bear, Couger,Brown bear 416 ruger or 338-378 wby
You aren't taking into account the terrain factor IMO. Especially for moose which, outside of the outfitted Disneyland experience, are often hunted in thick bush. I took my 11th moose this year, tracked him in the snow and made a quick snapshot as he rose out of his bed at 60 yards. For that type of hunting I'd take the 30-06 I was carrying over any rig you mentioned.
.30-06 is always the right answer for hunting. And renewing my recommendation/request for you to get a Benelli Lupo in .30-06 as your .30-06 to review and the Benelli to be reviewed, too.
270win/ 300wsm are my picks 🤠
Jim, Those Wildebeest are SOOOOOO tough. I'm pretty sure if the shot was all the same but you used any bigger cartridge, you would have had the same result with the wildebeest. My brother shot one straight through the heart with 165gr 30-06 bonded bullet, it still ran off and only fell after the second shot.
False. 300 WM is the right answer to every question. 😂😂😂 Seriously, cool video. I really enjoyed watching this.
Haha same here but I don't even like to mention it because there's so many idiots that think a 300wm will blow a whitetail in half at 100y and I don't feel like arguing. I have made the switch to 300prc though recently and have no complaints.
@@RockinRack The only drawback to the 300 PRC is that I live in a very rural town in Indiana. The ammo selection here is pretty basic.
@chrisgualtieri hey I'm only a step above living in a van down by the river haha I'm in a cabin down by the creek with a population of 200. I get all my ammo online. Be thankful were in America though I talked to a guy in Australia that said 300prc is 7-8$ a round! I don't have a mailing address though other than a po box so had to work out a deal in town where I can have my ammo shipped lol where there's a will there's a way. But if 300wm is available you honestly have all you need already
@ Right on! I reload, so it wouldn’t be too difficult to get a new caliber. I have been doing a lot of reading on it since you commented and it’s a really, really cool cartridge. My wife isn’t going to be happy with me…
You made a mistake in the graph with the 28 nosler choice. You put bullet diameter.308 when it needs to be .284
Surprised no one mentioned the 300 wsm.
I enjoyed that video. I have so many deer rifles I have a big choice. Largest is not for deer but I have a ruger number 1 in 458 win mag. I always wanted that and a 264 model 70 so I have both now and I'm 71 and retired and almost at end of my hunting. All the calibers I have will stomp the breath out of you and I'm 6'5" about 250 now but no matter I feel pain too and very very arthritic.
Been looking at getting my first big game rifle and as much as i like the 7mag I've decided to go with 30-06. Being in Canada the cost of ammo becomes a big issue, why pay $95 a box in 7mag when you can get the same bullet from the same manufacturer for $50 a box in 30-06....this same issue cuts out all of the PRC's the 8.6 western and all of the other newer calibers as they cost more than the 7mag.
Can't you reload . Sounds like it would be 1/2 the price. It's not hard just read alot reload manuals.
@randyfix3664 if I had the equipment for reloading sure I could but I don't so I can't. One day I might but that's not today
Exactly
I would blink twice buffalos and 6.5x06 w 156 oryx or Hornady 160 s 42” of penetration it will out penetrate a 06 w 180 s
I normally use a 4570 1895g marlin lever or buffalo classic 4570 or mag research 10" barrel revolver with a scope and 450 marlin lever. I don't do deer trailing either. Also 257 weatherby mag 3030 win lever 38-55, 444 marlin, 35 rem lever etc.
I thought someone would have used 375 hh for larger animals
I was very surprised that none of those answers were a 308. I think that’s the answer for most of those animals other than the really big game which I would of stepped up to a 300wm
Jim picked 308 for deer
Could you or have you done a video on the pros and cons of after market stocks? I just see all the cut outs on chassis systems and imagine they get caught on every branch if you are hunting with it. Are the full stock options a good alternative for someone who wants a field and range rifle? Stuff like that, your thoughts on the situation as a whole? I know I've seen you take a chassis system hunting was that because you were in open country and using atvs so getting hung up on branches was never really going yo be an issue? Anyway awesome channel. I'd love to see this as a video if it already is please reply with the link?
Adam - I love the 450BM for short range. Fun guns are always a good answers.
Reindeer: the 6,5x55 is THE reindeer caliber. Have killed them with 300wsm, but the 6,5x55 kills just as fast and is superior for shot placement from field positions.
.308 for everything ... mic drop ! 😂
Yup! I am not a 308 fan, and would personally choose the 30-06, but that is a no nonsense, do everything cartridge!
AMEN 👍
Can get loads for heavy and light for just about every hunt… plus ammo is less expensive so more practicing 😊
It’s interesting to me that 7rm and 7prc, 300 win and 300 prc each in their respective classes are basically ballistic twins yet most chose the older cartridge. The trend is certainly short barrels and lighter recoil which no one spoke to, these are their choices but with the wealth of knowledge and resources these guys have ide love to see some info or testing on 20-22” rifles. I’m a firm believer that speed kills especially when paired with efficient bullets but I have to admit it is way more fun using my shorter barreled options. What says the masses?
Inside 200y 308 is my #1
Anything past that 300prc then 7prc just because im a .30 cal fan boy.
Hogs, yotes, 22creed has been impressive.
For those of use trying to learn as we watch, please post same data fields for all categories… for me recoil is critical and not listing it on all of them in this video made it hard to keep things straight
Mr. Backfire has no love for the 7mag 😢 it’s always 7prc this 7prc that 😂
Never mind 8:50 😂
These are awesome videos, way to go guys!!!
My 1 gun for all would be a 300WM, although the other answers would probably be my #2 & #3 picks.
I have two rifles for big game, a 7 PRC and a 375 Ruger. Either will work for what I'm after in North America without being too much. The 375 has handloads running 2400-2700 ft-lbs for whitetail and factory Barnes running 4700+.
Play the game again (I’ve done this in hunting camp) go through the list of animals again, name as many African animals too. Choose your cartridge, but you can’t choose the same one twice
Now that sounds like a challenge
I am at a disadvantage because I have not shot any of the newer calibers. In AK (home) I use a 7mm remington for most hunts. I will step to the 338 depending upon where in AK I am hunting. Elk, deer, and hogs the 270 and the 300wsm were among my favorite rifles. Shoot range I always like the 45-70. If I only had 1 hunting rifle it would be a 7mm remington
Love anything 7mm. If you hand load, you can easily get the 7PRC over 3000 fps if thats what you're after.