Missed the premier again! I was in cardio-rehab. They asked me how many pushups I could do. I told them I’m usually good for 4-5 of the orange flavoured ones at one sitting. Not game boards! Those are electrical “bread boards” used for hand wiring up circuit boards. The better to utilise the Bagdad battery and the ground energy from the pyramids. Lacking evidence of printed circuit boards they had to hand-wire them. Besides. Look at me! Do I look like I play games? Of course not. I doubt they did either. Fox out
Cardio-rehab? That's a tough habit to kick. Glad to see you're getting help. Yeah, I'm with you. I mean, I think the "game" is just a cover from the true purpose. They gave it such a kinky name on purpose. Who would suspect that it was a way to program carrier pigeons it they were playing the "game of 58 holes" ? 🙈🙉🤭
@@rehoboth_farm No joker. Had a heart attack. Couple stents. Got to go in three times a week and exercise and listen to crap. I just kid around. Laura is so serious.
well, i was early for once but, the chat and my ability to chat was non- existant😮😢 i tried several things....the chat would come up but, nothing was there and i couldn't add anything!!??!! whasup wid dat!?! anyhoo, very interesting...ancient folk were just like us..... needed something fun to pass the time😊 to gouge a board into stone shows just how important it was to them.....major undertaking. i made a cribbage board out of a piece of 1x4 and that was hard enough, let alone chipping holes in rock😉 now, i can't help wondering what they used for the play.....cards? dice? bones? 🤔 anyone know? (dadratted mystery....gonna mess with my mind til i find out😢) hokay, cool vid, my dear Laura! maybe i'll be able to chat on the next go-round😏...see you then👍
@@barrywalser2384 yeah, go figure.....i'm finally early, ready and rarin' to go and......hopefully i've taken the right steps to make the gods, gremlins and whatever happy🤞 see ya next time?
Have they established the rules? Would be interesting to see how it played😊. Not surprised that there were different variations in rules, much like pool, etc today. Great video, cheers 👍😊
Is this the same game depicted in an early scene with Pharaoh Sethi (Cedric Hardwicke) and his daughter Nefretiri (Anne Baxter) in Cecil B. DeMille's epic film The Ten Commandments (1956)?
So why 58 holes? Religious significance or even astronomical significance, scientific knowledge, spread across many cultures? There must have been some sort of mania related to the game for some important reason. The same number of 58 holes everywhere; do they actually vary in number? Otherwise becomes sort of a romantic universal secret code in an exaggerated sense. Could an Egyptian and an Afghan both explain the same game layout in the same way in the same detail? Maybe more interestingly, that game can act as a sort of date marker for any cultures associated with it. These objects can track the trade networks as well; I think hugely ignored, considering that certain products must have been bartered for in a huge trading system from the most ancient times, such as flint or plant drugs or seashell beads or minerals or seasonal food or other specialized products, by even say species preceding our own, such as the Neanderthals in the region from perhaps hundreds of thousands of years past. Again considering the popularity of this board game within a fairly specific time frame across a broad stretch of territory, I have to ask the following question, asked rhetorically. And that is if even mere Middle Kingdom officials could export or import a game does it sound reasonable that the Egyptians (or even the English in the time of Stonehenge) would have been in blissful ignorance of the Late Neolithic invention of the wheel, nay even given its use from about 3,500 B.C. in Mesopotamia? And that the Egyptians were awakened only out of their ignorant stupor by charioted Hyksos invaders like TWO THOUSAND YEARS after the wheel came into use in the region? Is there a theory behind the stone vertical and other petroglyphs of the game? As a model for setting up the game in a stick in the soil? How to play those?
As a gamer I would say that if everyone is playing with 58 holes it means that the game is most entertaining at 58, being not too short so good luck is decisive and not too long so that you're a long time losing. And everyone standardizes at 58 so you can get a game anywhere, even with language difficulties. EDIT: Modern Cribbage boards have 61or 121 holes, the latter being most popular because a card deal can generate large scores and a very lucky hand can make a 61 point game very luck dependent. I'm guessing in the ancient game they probably tossed dice or sticks to generate a move number.
@@alanbeaumont4848 Good take! It's obviously a fast race-game. Looks like some pitfalls and shortcuts and you have to pass your opponent at some point- like backgammon.
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I have a picture in my head of the cattle herders, isolated in the hills, playing this game to pass the time. Thanks Laura!
Always fascinating !
Missed the premier again! I was in cardio-rehab. They asked me how many pushups I could do. I told them I’m usually good for 4-5 of the orange flavoured ones at one sitting.
Not game boards! Those are electrical “bread boards” used for hand wiring up circuit boards. The better to utilise the Bagdad battery and the ground energy from the pyramids. Lacking evidence of printed circuit boards they had to hand-wire them.
Besides. Look at me! Do I look like I play games? Of course not. I doubt they did either.
Fox out
Cardio-rehab? That's a tough habit to kick. Glad to see you're getting help.
Yeah, I'm with you. I mean, I think the "game" is just a cover from the true purpose. They gave it such a kinky name on purpose. Who would suspect that it was a way to program carrier pigeons it they were playing the "game of 58 holes" ? 🙈🙉🤭
@@rehoboth_farm
No joker. Had a heart attack. Couple stents. Got to go in three times a week and exercise and listen to crap.
I just kid around. Laura is so serious.
yes! love the peg board! kinda looks like my home-made cribbage board.....a little fancier, tho😮
good vid, yes looks like cribbage, maybe it was used to keep the score of a game of dice or similar. Thanks
Looks like an ancient cribbage board 😊
I’m going to be a little late for this one. I’ll catch up!
dang well better, Barry!
well, i was early for once but, the chat and my ability to chat was non- existant😮😢 i tried several things....the chat would come up but, nothing was there and i couldn't add anything!!??!! whasup wid dat!?! anyhoo, very interesting...ancient folk were just like us..... needed something fun to pass the time😊 to gouge a board into stone shows just how important it was to them.....major undertaking. i made a cribbage board out of a piece of 1x4 and that was hard enough, let alone chipping holes in rock😉 now, i can't help wondering what they used for the play.....cards? dice? bones? 🤔 anyone know? (dadratted mystery....gonna mess with my mind til i find out😢)
hokay, cool vid, my dear Laura! maybe i'll be able to chat on the next go-round😏...see you then👍
My chat was just the 2 people. Gremlin in the system. Grrrr. Now we have to keep the algorithm deities and the gremlins happy 😂😅
Hey Floyd! I was late, late, late! 😮 Sorry no chat.
@@barrywalser2384 yeah, go figure.....i'm finally early, ready and rarin' to go and......hopefully i've taken the right steps to make the gods, gremlins and whatever happy🤞 see ya next time?
@@floydriebe4755 Hopefully, we can all chat the next time. See ya then!
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Now this is going to keep me awake all night. So many questions.
Have they established the rules? Would be interesting to see how it played😊. Not surprised that there were different variations in rules, much like pool, etc today. Great video, cheers 👍😊
Is this the same game depicted in an early scene with Pharaoh Sethi (Cedric Hardwicke) and his daughter Nefretiri (Anne Baxter) in Cecil B. DeMille's epic film The Ten Commandments (1956)?
My guess - every time you brought back the head of an enemy, you got to move one hole. Starting at opposite ends, first one around wins.
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So why 58 holes? Religious significance or even astronomical significance, scientific knowledge, spread across many cultures? There must have been some sort of mania related to the game for some important reason. The same number of 58 holes everywhere; do they actually vary in number? Otherwise becomes sort of a romantic universal secret code in an exaggerated sense. Could an Egyptian and an Afghan both explain the same game layout in the same way in the same detail? Maybe more interestingly, that game can act as a sort of date marker for any cultures associated with it. These objects can track the trade networks as well; I think hugely ignored, considering that certain products must have been bartered for in a huge trading system from the most ancient times, such as flint or plant drugs or seashell beads or minerals or seasonal food or other specialized products, by even say species preceding our own, such as the Neanderthals in the region from perhaps hundreds of thousands of years past.
Again considering the popularity of this board game within a fairly specific time frame across a broad stretch of territory, I have to ask the following question, asked rhetorically. And that is if even mere Middle Kingdom officials could export or import a game does it sound reasonable that the Egyptians (or even the English in the time of Stonehenge) would have been in blissful ignorance of the Late Neolithic invention of the wheel, nay even given its use from about 3,500 B.C. in Mesopotamia? And that the Egyptians were awakened only out of their ignorant stupor by charioted Hyksos invaders like TWO THOUSAND YEARS after the wheel came into use in the region?
Is there a theory behind the stone vertical and other petroglyphs of the game? As a model for setting up the game in a stick in the soil? How to play those?
As a gamer I would say that if everyone is playing with 58 holes it means that the game is most entertaining at 58, being not too short so good luck is decisive and not too long so that you're a long time losing. And everyone standardizes at 58 so you can get a game anywhere, even with language difficulties.
EDIT: Modern Cribbage boards have 61or 121 holes, the latter being most popular because a card deal can generate large scores and a very lucky hand can make a 61 point game very luck dependent. I'm guessing in the ancient game they probably tossed dice or sticks to generate a move number.
@@alanbeaumont4848 Good take! It's obviously a fast race-game. Looks like some pitfalls and shortcuts and you have to pass your opponent at some point- like backgammon.