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Can I say you are an amazing individual I could listen to your voice all day very ASMR lol your knowledge is amazing your content is TV standard keep up the amazing work Captain your a credit to your profession 😊
I understand that you need ads on these videos but some of them appear at very disruptive places which spoil the fantastic narrative. It’s a real shame.
The graphics, narration and content are so professionally done that at this point, this is like a full fledged documentary and not just the informed viewpoint of a full time pilot. Amazing!
@@MentourPilotI'm a huge fan of yours, and I agree with everything that person said. I think I've binge watched practically all of your videos. I also watch 74 gear with Kelsey Hughes. I watched the one that you both made once. You Rock!
I’m an air traffic controller and we use your videos extensively during ECT, not only to provide better assistance during time of need, but also to learn valuable lessons that could potentially help us in the future. Never too old or experienced to learn and your videos serve as excellent library of information. Thank you for the amazing content!
@@Kapone27could be some concerns over "endorsing" his videos as training? Someone trying to be malicious could make something out of that. Maybe liability stuff too, but I don't know much about that. I'm sure he appreciates the compliments regardless of why he hasn't said anything
If, If this is true then good to hear this. Education with truth no matter where this is from is excellent; even to just get a different lesson from the way the teacher provides the words, lecture, etc.. As long as the lesson remains true…
@davidjames-maddaford4531 I don't know much about law but I do know people sue over everything for sure. He may have been issued guidelines about what exactly he can comment on by his employer's law team.
I've been an airline captain for 37 consecutive years. Have in excess of 27,000 hrs PIC, on 777, 767, 737, A320, 727 and ATR. I'm still learning, been lucky on my career so far, without any serious trouble to date. I must say this channel's content is the most precious ever, it's a valuable learning tool. My sincere compliments to Mentour Pilot!
The copilot was a friend of my brother and I from years before the tragedy. We knew him quite well from those years. He was smart, and thorough. I investigated all that I could of how and what happened, and I saw he tried to save this situation as much as possible, but the captain was tremendously confused and deep in tunnel vision to back off his decisions and start trusting instruments in time. Very very sad. RIP Alex
Man... I felt so bad for him throughout this video - it seems like he was aware of the real situation the entire time yet couldn't prevent it from happening. What a bad way to go... My condolences as well.
Ironically while covering these accidents, you're helping me rid me off my flight anxieties... seeing the brainpower that goes into this makes me feel safe.
I’ve been a pilot for 17 years here in Germany. Not only is this channel informative, it also serves as a valuable learning tool for pilots all across the globe. The simulator is a fantastic learning device, but most accidents I feel can be attributed to overload stress and crew resource management. Basic communication between crew members is absolutely essential. If something is wrong, mention it. And a good captain uses his resources and listens. Inexperience does not always equal a wrong answer. Thank you for your videos. They are second to none and a vital resource for any current or future pilot! You may be saving future lives with your informative videos!
Says something about the deplorable state of the industry when a youtube channel is considered a valuable learning tool. Any potentially life saving training should already be mandatory for all pilots and not a social media past time.
@@listigt Our training is rigorous, thorough and safety orientated and that shows in the thousands upon thousands of flights that take off and land safely each day. In the years I’ve been an international pilot, I’ve never found myself in a situation that I couldn’t control, and that’s all thanks to our strict training and refresher programs. However, incidents like these are extremely uncommon. It’s easy to become complacent which is why videos like this are so important to our ongoing awareness. We learn from our mistakes which is what has made air travel the safest form of transportation, and if every pilot has an open mind and is willing to learn on a constant basis, then videos like these are essential to that growth. It has nothing to do with poor safety and training standards. It’s just another tool pilots can study and analyze to ensure we continue to expand our knowledge bases by making sure we learn from past mistakes. Knowledge is a wonderful thing, and any good, professional pilot will happily spend his or her free time becoming masters of their craft.
Seriously, I’m not even a pilot nor am I studying to be, but I feel like through all these videos I know exactly what to do in any situation in the air 😭😭
One of the check captains at my airline introduced me to this channel and I always watch now. Its great for pilots too to learn exactly how these incidents unfolded
I am a professional pilot since many years. My friend, I have to say that I never saw a crash analysis performed that well. Amazing combination of professional explanation and background information. Usually my wife falls asleep when we start watching a movie together, but putting your video on the TV she watched it with me till the end and showed big interest. Subscribing your channel was the least I could do to demonstrate my appreciation. Thank you!
Would it not be safer just to get rid of human pilots and have fully automated flights? Air travel will become a lot safer when the industry moves away from using humans as pilots People will still die. But far less people will die with computer pilots rather than human pilots
@@mortgageapprovals8933 Tbh.. but then in situations like this it wouldnt be possivle or very hard at least. Cause things might pop up that the machine cannot solve or such
Most of us fly from place to place having no idea of the complex operations required in a normal flight, much less when conditions get harrowing. Awesome work here in giving such insight to us. I’ll never take for granted the knowledge, skill and stress management that pilots and crew execute every day. Thank you! Also, I’ll feel pretty pathetic when I’m in my Jeep getting excited over a little bad weather, hectic traffic and careless drivers.
One of the most complex operations is trying to get to the toilet on a Ryanair flight. The cabin crew are ALWAYS in the aisle with trolleys trying to sell scratchcards, expensive tiny cans of beer and awful sandwiches.
The problem is that there isn't a huge amount of stress management day to day and pilots are amazing at regular flights. It's when things go wrong that you work out who can actually fly or not, as in this example where the captain should never have been a pilot, but you don't know that until you actually put them in a difficult or stressful situation and then it's too late.
I can only imagine how fast the final 59 seconds must have occurred in that cockpit. Also, to be in the back of the plane at that time of morning, after waiting and waiting and waiting, the horror that some of the alert passengers must have realized was about to happen. I can only pray that the impact was so sudden, so severe and so instant that nobody had any chance to feel that for even a second. Wonderful job here, as always, describing the events as true to life as possibly. Thank you!
The fear seeing the ground rushing up would've been heart wrenching, but all deaths were most certainly instant. The impact at that speed and angle probably turned organs into paste, and those who may have survived a few extra seconds would've immediately passed out from shock. Probably.
@@lordlundin6495 ..hopefully. Tragedies like this, being off human error, it's really hard to accept. It pains me to know that with a little more training and possible more confidence in unexpected situations like this one CAN be avoided. This one doesn't really fit the Swiss cheese model necessarily, but things added up over almost 2 hours that unfortunately left these souls to their fate. Will technology and AI be the future? Maybe, but they're all still created and controlled by humans, and humans are inevitably going to make mistakes. I can only pray that everyone in the aviation community can learn something from an event like this.
It's not the death itself that's terrifying about it - ultimately we all go there. But very, very few will have to go through this insane amount of terror that it must be. No control, full G-force, the ground coming closer and closer as all of this happens. Phones, shoes, computers flying around, people screaming for their lives. A collective experience of everyone knowing what is happening and nobody wants it. My god. This is what my flight anxiety is made of. Absolute torture to experience.
What's up with company procedures?? So let's say the captain is incapacitated by experiencing a heart attack and is completely unable to fly the plane, will the 1st officer still not take control because the captain did not have the opportunity to say "your control" to the 1st officer before he passed out? This is getting scary now.
@@myoutuber77there are company procedures for a clear pilot incapacitation, but the pilot was still calling things out and doing things. During a tricky maneuver like they were doing, the copilot would have had a hard time realizing the pilot was completely lost in the precious few seconds where he could have made a difference
@@myoutuber77Airlines clearly need your vast expertise in order to fix these problems. You need to contact them all right away and tell them you can fix all of this for the future.
Seriously, Dubai may have countless human rights violations and slave labor for a bunch of absurd rich madmens ego projects but the pilots are damn good
It's hard to have much faith in any policy made in Dubai haha..even ignoring the slave labor, dictatorship & corner cutting but all their urban planning is comically bad, the palm fronts are sinking and the Burj doesn't even have indoor plumbing and needs poop trucks hahah. It's a mix of morally bankrupt plutocrats and comically bad design and planning
Even though I'm not a pilot, I am fascinated by the intricacies of being a pilot. Each video I watch makes want to know more about how the aviation industry become safer from not only the unfortunate accidents but as well as pilots being able to save their plane, passengers, crews. What I really enjoy is how you and your team break down each story so that a common Joe to understand.
Unlike most of your covered incidents, this seemed much less a Swiss cheese model and much more a tragic plethora of challenges and confusion happening all at once. So sad, since the crew had been so professional and cautious.
When you mentioned the aileron input at the end, it almost seemed to me that the pilot realized the situation but had no idea how to rectify it and then decided to make the outcome as instant and pain free as possible.
The "Swiss cheese modell" is essentially the same thing (from a different perspective) as defense in depth. Once you learn that trying to improve security / safety in one area to prevent more and more problems wouldn't be feasible. But if you have multiple layers of defense and you need multiple independent events (failures) to face unwanted consequences, then your chances would improve much. If the failures should be "aligned" in some way (another "independent" event with a low probability) the chances of a catastrophic failure would be even lower. It is used by militaries, nuclear engineering, aviation, civil engineering, IT, etc. The big problem is: Often we assume that even if we give up a few lines of defense we would be still safe enough, but once we gave up too many lines of our defense a "few extra problems" can lead to catastrophic consequences. It happens almost everywhere. When whole slices of the Swiss cheese are missing, you don't see the missing pieces of cheese, and you won't treat the whole big missing part of it as a giant hole, you won't see that as some alarming incident.
I remember watching your videos when you were on the sofa with the notes and the dogs. There was nothing wrong with that and I still love your old video, but it's so amazing to see how you've grown the channel into making TV quality documentaries at this point. You're an inspiration Petter!
Omg, how you described the weightlessness? I FELT IT. This was so well explained - to the point where I could imagine that feeling, I've felt it on rollercoasters. Being lifted up, looking DOWN on the controls, omg.
I live in Rostov-on-Don and this tragedy really shocked all of us. And unfortunately someone I know were affected and lost the members of their families. I’ve read a lot of investigations and different articles about this catastrophe, but only here and now I really understood what happened. Thank you for this video and explanation. And may all the crash victims rest in peace 🙏
Thank you for the continuous high-quality content on your channel. Although my profession is not aviation, I think there is a lot to learn and be inspired from the professionalism in the aviation industry. Your channel enables exactly that.
One of the saddest things about these stories is there's almost always one or two people that know they're about to die and they know that they can't stop it. I hope I never have to be in a situation like that. They shouldn't have had to be in a situation like that. It's really scary and very sad. :(
Your video quality, narration, and cinematics are amazing. You are also teaching future pilots about safety and how to recognise where they can go wrong. Thank you for your amazing videos.
Albert Einstein said, if you can’t explain it to a six year old you don’t understand it yourself. I am not 6 years old but when it comes to aviation I may as well be. After watching your videos I can give a reasonable explanation as to what happened in the event you reviewed. Proud to be part of you patron crew. Keep the videos coming.
Einstein never said that and it's honestly isnt a very insightful quote. Some things are just complicated and takes years of training to get right and respect should be given to it.
@@bradchervel5202 Thank you for your correction, if your correct. You maybe, I am not sure. I was not standing beside Einstein every time he said something. Where you?. It was something I heard. My point was not a historical one and possibly I was taking poetic licence. My point was Mentour Pilot is able to take a difficult complex report and put it in a format that almost anyone can understand. But well done for pointing out my miss quote.
I have noticed over the last few weeks some excellent content being put through on the Patreon platform. Their philosophy and productions are outstanding and now when I'm looking for videos, I am quick to note those produced by Patreon. Wow. I'd only watched three videos of Petters when he mentioned Patreon and it clicked.......no wonder they're so good.
@@bradchervel5202 LOL...ol' Einstein is like the new Confucius or Aesop with words of wisdom being ascribed to him without any real references to actually have saying them.
The fact that this accident could have almost been avoided is so heart breaking. I can't even begin to imagine the fear everyone was facing onboard that plane. R.I.P
Most of them are like that. RMS Titanic was travelling at 11 m/s (22 knots) and the impact sequence ended with a 10 m gash, opening Boiler Room 6 and 5. This was the fatal damage. Compartments 1-4 where flooding, compartments 5 and 6 (from the bow) aka Boiler Room 6 and 5 where opened up in the last second of the impact sequence. After that Murdoch got the stern to swing out of the way and no more damage was done. Boiler Room 6 had one small leak besides that 10 m gash. However that was well within the capability of the pumps which could do 600 t per hour if I remember. Certainly she would have floated long enough for Carpathia to dock alongside and take everyone aboard and run lines from her pumps down into BR 6 and 5. Then wait for daylight and draw straws on who gets to be lowered down to stuff cloth into the holes and plug them up enough to pump the compartments dry, repair the damage with some big wood planks and sail into Halifax for slightly more permanent repairs and back to Belfast into the drydock. More or less what Olympic had done a year earlier after colliding with a large warship. Of course Titanic had to donate her starboard propeller shaft to her older sis and so Titanic was delayed several months as Harland and Wolf made a new shaft and so Titanic set sail on April 10. Still due to miss the iceberg. However due to ice warnings course was altered South putting them on a direct collision course with the iceberg. Had they actually ignored the warnings they would have been safe. Titanic was a fantastic design and the long career of her sister Olympic proved that. Just very very unlucky. Oh and SS Californian was less than an hour away. Surrounded by ice and stopped for the night. They didn't have 24 h radio so the radioman went to sleep at 1130 PM. Titanic sent out the first SOS 15 minutes later. The set was still on but he had taken off the headphones. Of course they saw the rockets and they saw a giant liner suddenly stop, begin to list and then dissappear with some flashes occasionally that could be a morse lamp but was figured to be a masthead light. No one bothered to wake the radioman so Titanic sank 10 miles from a liner perfectly capable of holding 2000 people. Lusitania was similar so many coincidences led to the ship being vulnerable. On course and speed no chance but just as U-20 was about to give up Lucy slowed down and turned right towards them to go looking for a lighthouse in the fog. So instead of going 21 knots, still slow for Lucy, way to fast for a U-Boat. It was one of the holes in the slices of Emmentaler.
Yea its crazy that just second before impact the plane was still technically recoverable. Now it probably wouldnever have been flown again as the force of gravity would have surely bent the airframe but it still may have saved everyone on board
Oh wow... throughout almost the entire video, right up until you told us that the GPWS warnings were too late, I had been thinking that this was going to be one of those "near miss" incidents, where they went through some terrifying loss of control, but were able to pull through in the end. I hadn't ever heard of this accident before, and figured that if it had ended in a fatal crash, I'd have known about it already. That ending was such a gut punch. Just shows how quickly things can change in the cockpit.
Would it not be safer just to get rid of human pilots and have fully automated flights? Air travel will become a lot safer when the industry moves away from using humans as pilots People will still die. But far less people will die with computer pilots rather than human pilots
@@mortgageapprovals8933 Overall, commercial aviation is still the safest form of transport, so let's not throw a running system out of the window to try something totally new. But I honestly think that there is still too high of a mental load involved in operating a commercial airliner. Humans really excell as predictive, real-time controllers, withhin our limits. So, any system relying on our control has to assure either by design or by computer augumentation, that it stays within those limits. The most fundamental real-time criterion is the deadline. If the delay between input and control output is below the deadline, the control loop is closed. The more time reserve, the more reserve there is for some additional workload. However, once the delay is close to, or at the deadline, there is no reserve left. Once that happens, the control loop is open, the controller is not able to respond to the input, but will rather act undefined. "Staying in front of" or "Getting behind of" the aircraft are, at least in some sense, directly related to this real-time criterion. Once you are over the deadline, you are getting "behind". Control of a modern airliner should be further abstracted away to the bare basics (advanced avionics with very simple UI, which should still exercise the "stick-and-rudder-skills") to limit, or even better, manage mental load. Â HUD may not just display graphical elements, put on some lightweight, ~2030 AR glasses with a full FOV, and you have beautiful VFR conditions with overlayed atmospheric information with the worst IMC outside. While we don't want the pilots to be overwhelmed, they also shouldn't get bored. Let the pilots be skilled aviators, let the avionics do most of the rest, and let the system experts tune in via broadband LEO satellite link from a proper control room with full diagnostic access if issues of any sort are detected.
@mortgageapprovals8933 Is that true? I don't know if that's the solution. There are so many factors at play & crashes that have happened with the autopilot/computer systems playing a big role. Better technology will definitely be great at improving the autopilot systems, therefore saving lives, but I still think we are a long way until it is safer to not have humans as pilots completely.
@@TheLukaszpgwhy describe it as silly when someone benefit from it ? Is the goal of teaching not to make your listeners understand what is taught ? Some people appreciate things better with graphics so no need to be behave that way while proudly making the world know you are pilot . Imagine how you’d feel being called a silly pilot 🥺
As a private pilot SEP, I learn a lot from every single one of your videos. Thank you very much, Petter and team, for the excellent analysis of that terrible accident and for the realistic detailed presentation. Like I read in some comments, I also felt myself directly in that cockpit. So sad to see, that a relatively stable 2nd approach turned into maximum catastrophic constellation within only one minute. The pilot monitoring 1st officer certainly had good skills in flying and he might have been able to recover the aircraft out of the horrible status, caused by his captain. An important lesson for all 1st officers out there to speak up earlier, when things exceed obviously the given parameters, and to offer or to 'order' taking over controls. Greetings from Germany.
A tragic story told with great understanding and empathy, as usual. As with many of these incidents, I was sitting on the edge of my seat hoping for a happy ending but slowly becoming aware it's a Swiss cheese scenario or someone being overwhelmed by a situation. Keep up the excellent work.
Sir, I use your presentations in my mental situational awareness training as a maritime pilot at The Panama Canal. My mantra: Situational Awareness: Always alert to changing clues, avoid tunnel vision. Complacency breeds accidents. Take Action (~Aviate). Anticipate (Be ahead), and many more. Thanks for your thoroughness.
I am not an airplane pilot, but I learn so much from these tragedies. I always shed tears for the victims and families because it is terrible to lose a loved one. This channel teaches me to stay humble because it shows that even highly skilled people can be overwhelmed by mistakes. We are always trying to get better, and it's easy to get lost in the desire to explore new things.... This is where I learn the importance of practicing "the basics". So today I'm going to get the old Lego box out of the cupboard and start building our dream house again..
Air Traffic Controllers, Pilots, Cabin Crew, Nerds Like myself and many other people are hooked to this amazing stuff you are putting out there for us. It is miles ahead of even the best show national geographic used to air. I salute you sir. Keep up the good work.
As a young engineer that only just started her career in aviation, I must thank you and your team for your hard work explaining each and every incident. You cannot imagine how your content not only helps pilots but also other people who work in aviation. Thanks to your content, I’ve understood things more in depth and it brought a new meaning to my job as an aeronautics engineer and how much every detail can make a change. Keep up the good work! ❤
Congratulations on your career position as a aeronautics engineer, that is a blessing! I know you will prosper and bring tremendous amounts of talent to your work flow and work environment. God bless you.
Would it not be safer just to get rid of human pilots and have fully automated flights? Air travel will become a lot safer when the industry moves away from using humans as pilots People will still die. But far less people will die with computer pilots rather than human pilots
@@mortgageapprovals8933 computers are great at handling autonomous tasks, but they are not capable of managing situations outside of expected parameters the same way humans are. There are many examples on this channel where the computers fail to perform correctly due to things like incorrect data or run into software errors/bugs. Piloting is too involved and complex to be replaced by automated systems (at least for now), plus you really don’t want to be in a situation where those systems fail and there’s no humans on board to take control
I was not really prepared for this to end in such a tragic crash. It seemed like such a simple issue, but unfortunately that wasn't the case. This is one of the accidents that are so sad because it seemed so preventable. My condolences to all who lost their loved ones.
When they do the somber fade out on Petter sitting in his chair with a certain look on his face, I know it’s not going to end well. Read the cues. But yeah, it’s still tough to imagine. As humans we hope for the best.
It was presented in a manner which made it look like a series of events contributed to the accident. But in reality it was just bad piloting that caused it. There are videos of incidents where pilots worked heroically despite everything working against them. While here the plane was perfectly fine, he sort of prevented it from flying properly.
I found this more disturbing than other videos because it seemed so preventable, and actually the crew seemed to be working effectively. To me, this just shows that we are fundamentally fallible human beings and not perfect. This error costs so many lives in this case. Very sobering and very sad.
Would it not be safer just to get rid of human pilots and have fully automated flights? Air travel will become a lot safer when the industry moves away from using humans as pilots People will still die. But far less people will die with computer pilots rather than human pilots
@@mortgageapprovals8933 That may be possible in the future ... the FAR distant future where we are finally able to create extremely complicated electro/mechanical/hydraulic AI machines with complete cognizance and zero malfunctions ... (ZERO malfunctions Ever!). So, until such time ... the answer to your question is no. ^v^
I have no knowledge or experience in anything aviation related but I stumbled into this rabbit hole and your videos are so good. The way you lay things out mean that I can follow along without any prior knowledge and I've actually learned quite a lot just in the few videos I've watched. It's fascinating, thank you for the effort you put into making these!
This accident and explanations of it from various sources have puzzled me for many years. But you explained it very well and clarified a lot of details, thanks for sharing.
Been watching air crash documentaries since my childhood and I usually watch them skipping mutliple times but never came across something so marvelous. The graphics, the narration with the time stamps, the easy-to-understand explanation; spot on. Hats off to you man!!
These documentaries get better and better with each episode. The visuals, story structure and explanations are incredible. I’ve got my first ATPL exams in January and these videos and investigations help a lot with the understanding of content. Thank you MP.
Would it not be safer just to get rid of human pilots and have fully automated flights? Air travel will become a lot safer when the industry moves away from using humans as pilots People will still die. But far less people will die with computer pilots rather than human pilots
My friend live in a building bordering the airport. When plane smashed into the ground, the whole building was shaken, and few windows got broken. Some small fragments of the aircraft were scattered across his and some nearby buildings' roofs. That should give you a rough idea of the forces involved.
As a cabin crew member for over 20 years, I have found this video fascinating and so informative. It is excellently explained and narrative is excellent, i have just discovered this channel and subscribed. Absolutely excellent
As a frequent flyer, i treasure these insights into how safe aviation travel is. Flying is complicated, and yet flying is still the safest mode of transportation. Channels like yours showcase what can go wrong, but highlight what prevents these accidents from happening in the first place.
It depends. Flying is safer per miles traveled due to covering much larger distances. But due to the risk in take off and landing, shorter flights are statistically much more dangerous than train travel.
Would it not be safer just to get rid of human pilots and have fully automated flights? Air travel will become a lot safer when the industry moves away from using humans as pilots People will still die. But far less people will die with computer pilots rather than human pilots
@@mortgageapprovals8933 I would have to say anybody who thinks that has not had much experience with automated systems. We cannot even get self driving cars to work properly yet. Automation is very good at certain things, but the unexpected is not one of them. Even the best systems i have worked on, cannot cope with things they haven't been programmed to deal with.
@@mortgageapprovals8933computers don't know how to fly in unexpected conditions. Standard procedures go wrong and are only saved by quick decision making of pilots. AI is unpredictable as we don't really know why inputs turn into outputs due to insanely high dimensionality, we can only comprehend around 4dim while models are 1000dim
No, Mr Mortgage Approver 8933. Petter has mentioned in some other videos that flight crews consider the autopilot as their third crew member. Machines and automation has already greatly improved safety in this industry and will continue to do so, but I don't believe that they will ever be able to handle every single unique situation. We as a species work best when we cooperate and share knowledge, and autopilots are the same way.
I've been a subscriber since 3 years now. The quality of the graphics/narration has consistently increased. Thank you Petter & Team Mentour Pilot. Keep up the amazing work! ❤
Can’t stop watching your videos. There’s so much to learn from every one of them. Thank you for your contribution to aviation safety, I’m sure all pilots all learning something from them. You’re a real mentor !
Amazing quality on a step by step analysis of a sad story. Sitting comfortay in a late night, dark office with a warm coffee in my hands, actually not far from DXB, my heart breaks watching how quickly things can go from stabilized to a point of complete madness. I feel so sorry about the passengers and pilots, especially knowing if the co-pilot could have taken over the controls then they would have survived for quite sure. I just imagine that captain recognizing how deeply lost he is and saying: "it's your control".. may have had a different outcome. I honestly wish that they were all in a peaceful and lovely place now..
A very sad, unfortunate situation. However, there is one glaring omission. My partner flew as a Purser with Flydubai for 9 years and during that time, senior management also played a huge part in the decision-making process with respect to flying choices. It was well known amongst the flight deck community, that said management would not suggest, rather demand that no diversions would take place, unless 100% unavoidable. They were more concerned over saving money and not having to deal with the subsequent consequences of a diversion, which you so clearly highlighted. In fact, strong rumours suggested that management threatened the captain that his future employment was at stake, if he chose to divert. Money over safety.
I have read the communication between the pilots and the ops-controller. It was in the final report and there was NO indication of that. They clearly said that it was up to him but that they recommended holding for as long as possible and only try another approach if they felt comfortable with it.
Whilst I respect your analysis of the communication that took place, there are also the communication reports that had been redacted during the subsequent crash investigation, including personal accounts from other flydubai flight deck. Very similiar to the communication between EK and the entire crew after their near fatal flight out of Melbourne in early 2000. Snr management contacted all the crew saying that they were strictly forbidden to contact their family/partners etc over what they had just experienced and that their mobile devices would be monitored for any such activity. Sadly, that seems to be the middle eastern approach to treating their staff.@@MentourPilot
@@MentourPilot I'd guess what dispatch is saying over a recorded channel and what they're telling someone in a meeting with no cookies is significantly different...
Would it not be safer just to get rid of human pilots and have fully automated flights? Air travel will become a lot safer when the industry moves away from using humans as pilots People will still die. But far less people will die with computer pilots rather than human pilots
I'm not a pilot but I've watched so many of these videos. I don't think I've seen a configuration that wasn't pilot suicide where the pitch was so low and so fast. Horrifying.
@@morgan4574 It’s such a shame that the FO wasn’t more assertive. He had plenty of speed to exchange for pitching up to regain altitude. Sometimes I wonder if they forget that they can actually take control from the captain and don’t have to rely on persuasion and just verbally giving instructions.
The scary part for me always is how they happen so fast. 59 secs . Like wtf Air France 447 went down so fast The flight that had the pilots kids in the captain’s seat also so fast Too many things to watch out for in few seconds . Most of us would probably lose orientation too
As a flight data analyst, I'm learning so much from this channel. The more I analyze the flights and learn, the more I realize human factors play key roles in flight safety. Thanks for the video!
Would it not be safer just to get rid of human pilots and have fully automated flights? Air travel will become a lot safer when the industry moves away from using humans as pilots People will still die. But far less people will die with computer pilots rather than human pilots
I have just discovered your channel. As an Air Crash Investigation “fan”, I was really impressed by your ability to keep the content interesting and technically accurate and detailed, with a fraction of National Geographic’s production means. Well done! 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 I also like the fact that you cover more non-fatal accidents. The lessons learned are less painful to watch, being equally important for the betterment of the industry. Thank you! ✈️
Hey Petter, I’ve been a longtime follower of your channel and still always find good educational ‘takeaways’ to use in my own industry(30 years in automative sector), and in particular, human performance factors. I believe a lot of people can also benefit from your video’s in either their professional or personal life. Big thanks to you and the MP team!
Running out of things i can say in praise for this channel, it really is of the highest quality by such a professional team and never fails to deliver. Thank you for your hard work Petter and keep up the amazing work!
@@MentourPilot sir I got a question. There have been multiple cases so far where the copilot could of saved the plane, but didn't. Why is that? Why don't they try and take over the flight controls?
@@pancak3because the pilot is often keen on staying in control either out of ego or panic - sometimes both. When both pilots attempt to control the aircraft, the net result is neutral aka nothing really results out of the copilot attempting to take control. The pilots likely believe they're more experienced and because of that, would rather navigate by themselves than defer that task to their junior.
I really like how unique you are as an aviation TH-camr, you don't make stupid shorts retelling terrible crash stories over and over again, you don't constantly ask to like and subscribe, you tell actually really cool stories that feel like documentaries and you even use MFS's amazing aircraft models to show the detail of everything in the stories, you are awesome 👍 Although there is one thing... Can we get the mentour reacts and technical videos back?
"and you even use MFS's amazing aircraft models to show the detail of everything in the stories" Actually, he is using shitty last-gen aircraft models and I've begged him to use MSFS but his production crew are XP fanboys and REFUSE to use the vastly superior MSFS. That just means that his videos won't age well and are not as good looking as other TH-camrs.
OMG this video is so well done. It's better than a documentary. I used to watch a lot of Mayday and Air Crash Investigation documentaries when I was younger, but it was hard to find different cases. I was so happy when I found your channel all those years ago when you started talking about planes in general and your life as a pilot while sitting on the couch. And then you started giving your perspective on various crashes/accidents and I was thrilled!! I love seeing your channel grow. You guys are absolutely amazing. Thanks for all your hard work!
Man, you surely deserve thanks and subscription. Accidentally landed on your channel and immediately got addicted. Your production level is getting better and better with every video.Lot of respect for all those hours you and your team put into these videos.
Great job Petter, describing a sad accident that simply should NOT have happened. (I’m a retired 30k hour captain, with lots of time on both the 737-800 with it’s fabulous HUD, and other Boeings up to and including the 747-400.) It was a really sad, very disturbing story, showing how absolutely critical it is to stay ahead of the aeroplane. I wonder why he was so loathe to use Autopilot in such conditions.
Would it not be safer just to get rid of human pilots and have fully automated flights? Air travel will become a lot safer when the industry moves away from using humans as pilots People will still die. But far less people will die with computer pilots rather than human pilots
@@mortgageapprovals8933I’m not sure, if pilots land less often then the times when the autopilot has to disconnect automatically are going to become even harder for them with a lack of muscle memory. Probably leading to more accidents than there are now.
@@mortgageapprovals8933 If you’d ever sat on a jump seat on a busy sector you would realise that “self flying” aeroplanes are as far away as it’s possible to imagine. Manipulation of the controls (ie: actually flying the aeroplane) is just a very small fraction of what we manage in the cockpit. As the old saying goes: “flying is 99% boredom and 1% sheer terror” - though I’d personally never use the word terror, as I have always loved it when we get busy.
I've been hooked on this channel for a few months now and it has massively increased my respect for pilots, ATC crew and cabin crew. My childhood dream was to become a pilot, which was never realised (due to imperfect hearing and vision), but your videos have helped me to realise all the other reasons why it's best if I leave this role to the professionals...
And at that point everyone aboard was accustomed to a last second go around so even that would have seemed relatively normal until the plane suddenly starts diving and rolling over.
Airline FO here and your videos are so good that I was clinching my hands and teeth so hard that by the end of the video I was sweating and with jaw pain. Incredible work my friend!
You doing this video is a dream come true for me: I remember that I had requested you in the comments to do this ASAP, long ago when you had just started to make investigative videos. As always, the direction and the storytelling of the video is terrific and fantastic! Keep up the good content!!
It never ceases to amaze me how fast things can go terribly wrong when pilots loose situational awareness. I wish every car accident on the ground would be so meticulously analyzed and lead to mandatory recommendations, like in aviation. A lot of lives would be saved, even if the cost would probably be quite high. Thanks for another amazing video!
Watching this from a flight dispatcher perspective, I always tell myself what could I have done. SIGMETs are a part of the flight plan package and pre-flight briefing, and this video re-emphasizes the importance of giving full information, ALWAYS! Thank you, Mentour Pilot, for giving us this presentation. You're now an inspiration to me as an aspiring aviation content creator. Subscribing done!
How utterly horrifying. It reminds me a little of AF 447. In that accident, one pilot was pushing the yoke down, the other one pulling it up. It is really something, the crash was relatively quite recent. It still means that accidents can happen.
Yes,but the pilots of AF447 had more time to figure out what was going on and recover, these pilots were coerced by the company to fly a holding pattern for over two hours instead of just diverting. Fatigue played a big part in this accident and I think the captain was planning on leaving Flydubai because of the working conditions.
These are such amazing mini documentaries! As a physician I recommend them to colleagues as they unmask the cognitive challenges in all high risk occupations.
This man's training is free and shrewd. He will save many lives if pilots and aspiring pilots will watch this humble channel. Heck am not even a pilot but I know arrogance is selfish. Captains who don't care and first officers too afraid to speak out and take control.
Simply awsome! 🇸🇪🇸🇪🇸🇪!!! With total lack of background, experience, education, knowledge (or honestly no particular interest in aviation what so ever!) I'm just blown away by you and your team's ability to create content that are both professional, insightful, formal, strict, respectful yet thrilling, suspenceful and highly, highly entertaining! Only channel on YT that still gets a big "YES!!!" when a new video is out! //Best wishes from Sweden! 🇸🇪
As usual, Your analysis and comments were amazing. Have you ever felt that moments like what these pilots were experiencing, the automation of flight parameters really contribute to overwhelming the thought processes of the pilot in the worst possible moment. You can just never remove the human element. The automation is far quicker than the human reasoning ability.
@@MentourPilotNo matter your profession, nothing is worse than the mental fog of losing the bubble. Even the mental effort of consciously realizing that you’ve lost the bubble can feel like trying to lift a mountain.
One of the things I admire about you and your channel compared to most "aircraft disaster" shows is how much sympathy you have for the pilots involved in situations like this. A lot of shows present pilots involved in major disasters as incompetent buffoons who let down their passengers, but you recognise most pilots are decent professional people doing a job, but who became overwhelmed or let down by the situation, their training, or psychology. "There but for the grace of God go I."
These episodes now blow any sort of Nat Geo type air incident documentaries, with all their overly dramatic 'entertainment' elements out of the water. Massive thanks to you Petter, and all of your superb team - so well explained, presented and executed. Patreon membership here I come 👍🙂
The amount of visual detail and explanations in your videos is second to none. I am only 8 minutes in but I just had to say that. I love how you have the definitions and all the visuals along with it, makes it very enjoyable watch each time. :)
Thank you and your team for making this fantastic educational video. Like many others, I find myself comforted about my safety flying even when I learn about tragedies/accidents like this because I know that this caliber of video would not be possible without thorough and comprehensive investigations. I love your compassion and empathy not only for the pilots/flight crew/cabin crews who heroically avert disaster, but for those who are not able to do so. I think about your insight in my own moments of crisis or anxiety.
This is one of your best videos ever. You are unmatched in terms of analytical aircraft incident videos. I can’t wait to follow your progress and, for the next release! Keep up the good work, Petter.
I honestly don't know how you find time to make these top quality videos and be a full time pilot at the same time. I really hope you continue to though, you're my favourite youtube channel hands down 🙂 Thank you!!
wow you must be incredible thick. Think about how much you have to deal with complicated scheduling, jet lag, circadian challenges and have to be at peak acuity for every flight, having to do all the preparation you need outside of work like exercising, eating well, etc@@salemabdulalhassam3726
As a HUGE Aviation Lover/Plane Spotter etc I've Started Plating the Microsoft Flight Simulator and I learn much of what I have to do and the reading of Instruments by Watching this Channel. Much Love All, Dean from Birmingham UK.
it is extremely disconcerting how a pilot can be disorientated so quickly. Understandably this also confirms the different attitudes in control systems by Boing and Airbus, as Airbus wishes to make flying safer by more automation and Boing on the other hand believes the pilot has final input. It would be interesting to fly a simulator with these exact conditions using , for instance, an airbus A320 to find out if the automation protections would have kicked in and saved the aircraft. Extremely sad how such a professional crew were overcome by circumstances which eventually caused the wrong decisions to be made causing the aircraft to crash.
Both philosophies have their pros and cons but the ability to change the priority and even lock out the other pilot controls would have been useful here.
Accepted but we are discussing this particular incident and my question was under these circumstances would the different philosophies have made a difference. I believe that automation may be more dangerous than human error because the failure of a component may cause incorrect data which may contribute towards a catastrophe, therefore any automation should always be observed and corrected by human oversight!
@@MarcusWeinreich The irony is that in this particular accident, if the FO had been more assertive and decided to take the controls by force then he had an option that no Boeing pilot could ever have. The “pilot priority” button located on the Airbus side stick that’s the equivalent of the yoke/control column. With one button press and hold the FO could have locked the confused captain out of the controls and flown the aircraft to safety. Pressing and holding the button causes the Airbus to ignore all input made by the other pilot, in this case the captain. Of course the Airbus verbally announces this “right side priority” but short of physically assaulting the FO there’s nothing the captain could do. Instead of literally fighting the captain for control of the yoke since they’re linked, he could have just taken control. In a Boeing if the captain was pushing nose down and the FO is pulling nose up, whoever is physically stronger “wins” though as we see in this accident, nobody won. The additional irony is that Airbus also have a “flight envelope protection system” which means that up until the upset flight became too extreme, the captain could have simply let go of the controls and the Airbus would have automatically corrected and stabilised itself. And unless the autopilot was acting in a degraded mode, it wouldn’t have let the captain put any dangerous control movements to begin with. I sound like a total Airbus fan girl in this comment but it’s just how the automation and flight philosophy would have worked in this particular accident. There are of course other crashes which wouldn’t have happened to a Boeing. Like I said, neither are truly superior and like you, I believe the human pilot should have the final say over the computer. The human pilot should always have the option to disable the autopilot and fly manually, but that’s a debate for another day.
Strange how you are confirming the exact point I was trying to make, in other words would the Flight Envelope Protection System have prevented the pilot the pilot from making such a catastrophic error? The First Officer's input can , for all intents and purposes, be discounted because this aircraft went from stable flight to unrecoverable in less than a minute and during that time the effects of negative G forces would have made his actions negligible or hardly significant!@@mikoto7693
I am an English as Second Language (ESL) online teacher. I have a couple of online students who are pilots, a Chinese and an Arabian. The reason they take English classes is because they need to be proficient in English for their work. I enjoy your videos. It gives me extra knowledge for my free talk classes with my students.
This was very sad - may they rest in peace. I'm frightened to fly, and gaining a greater understanding of how things go wrong via your videos has really helped me with that; as has hearing about the many situations where skilled pilots and crew manage to land safely despite facing serious challenges. Thank you.
I never thought that I would watch the entire 52 minute long video, but I did. The presentation and the narrative were amazingly done! Hats off to you!
The intro of this video was quite intense and i like it. I heard about the FlyDubai 981 accident from a well known aviation documentary show a year ago. After watching this video, it really reminding me and understand how powerful spatial disorientation can be in aviation because it is one of the most common factor on some aviation accidents. Yes, I know somatogravic illusion a year ago from your Armavia Flight 967 video. I think this video is also one of my favorite now and i love it.
Hi Petter. Another nightmare and well presented; thank you for your insight; this made me feel as if I were in that doomed cockpit... cold sweat, fear and anguish. Pilots should be very aware of their limitations and vulnerabilities... we are all human. Maybe? Years ago I was a 1st Officer in a multi engine aircraft on an ILS approach into a Norwegian airfield with a higher than normal approach angle between mountainous terrain. Due to a manning issue I was standing in as 1st Officer on an Outfit I had not flown with and therefore, my albeit experienced Captain, was an unknown to me, as I was to him. At that time I usually operated on a small flight with a few fellow aviators and we all knew each other well. The Captain initiated the approach after a professional briefing and we captured the localiser and shortly after that, the glideslope. And then it started to go horribly wrong.... an unstabilised approach is probably an understatement. I had to forcibly order the Captain to hand over the controls to me despite being his First Officer. I am happy to say he did so and we landed safely. In the hotel that night he came to me in private and said one of the most honest things any pilot could ever say to another pilot... "dik, I was maxed out, I was behind the aircraft and I was over controlling, thank you for your timely intervention and airmanship." So we had a few beers and swung the lampshade into the early hours.... as we had a 36 hour stopover we were well within our crew duty requirements which was a bonus. All First Officers out there... when the sh*t hits the fan be prepared to SPEAK OUT and, irrespective of your perceived CRM, TAKE CONTROL... FLY the aircraft and get home safe The ground has a PKILL of 1 in the wrong approach configuration.
I'm glad to hear the captain relinquished control at your command, It is my feeling that any FO who firmly insists on taking control should snap a captain out of his stupor and cause him to go hands off and comply. I was shaking my head over this poor FO, it is too bad when he attempted to do so the captain was countering his attempt to right the aircraft. I think an FO or captain should be able to lock out the other when one of them is disoriented and behind the airplane. This one is quite sad.
All blessings to those lost souls. To all pilots out there... try to have a positive thoughts and follow it with positive actions.. if your not having those positive thoughts and you have a fellow pilot with you... give him control. @@VHL240
Interesting thought... we used to have command ejection would could punch out your backseater. Not sure if I would have liked it the other way round? This idea should be explored though and would most certainly be valuable if your other pilot slumped over the controls due to incapacitation. Worth looking in to. This is a sad example of the worst outcome of disorientation whilst flying... there, for any grace, we never go. @@GusMac-kv7zi
Such a good channel, being a non aviator I've learnt so much and gathered a real appreciation for the complexity involved with commercial pilots work load. My father was a fighter pilot who also owned a share in a single prop aeroplane, which I had the opportunity to watch my father fly. While sat in the co-pilots seat. This channel reminds me of the education my father started and now this channel is continuing. Unfortunately my health would never permit me a licence of my own but I congratulate this channel for how it communicates and explains .
Great video as always! Just one suggestion: I would really appreciate it if the final report and the recommendations would be discussed more thoroughly. That would help in understanding the issues that led to the accident and would also give a better feeling knowing what improvements were made.
Very strong work here; please keep 'em coming. I admire what it takes to put this together. I was involved in the post-accident investigation (HUD team), and it was interesting to see this portrayal/explanation pop up. One thing for viewers to know is that the HUD symbology shown here is mostly pretty reasonably accurate for the situations being shown, but it is also occasionally completely inaccurate, particularly as regards energy state (via the acceleration cue or flight path marker positioning). So if you know roughly what that symbology should be doing, and you're trying to correlate it to the scenario, that'll be impossible to do sometimes. All of the various HUD simulations out there get it wrong often, which isn't surprising. They don't have the actual source code or detailed display logic.
@@Kveldred Yes, in various scenarios (not really interested in rewatching them all to identify them), and particularly for the acceleration cue. That acceleration cue is a pretty dynamic symbol, moving up or down in response to dynamic forces, and it serves as a predictor of what's about to happen to the aircraft. The modeling/simulation of those physics is almost never done correctly in simulations as depicted here.
Your delivery, explanation and graphics are impeccable. I’m sure as a pilot you have many feelings and empathy for the lost crew. As long as humans fly planes they’ll always be the possibility of an accident happening. I think pilots work is very under appreciated.
Possibly your best video yet. Very professional, amazing graphics. Well done. So alarming that only a few seconds of disorientation can be so catastrophic.
Iv been following since the beginning, and recently started flight school. What went from neat videos to feed my aviation interests, turned into something that Teaches me, and kind of goes along with my flight training. I have been recommending your videos to CFIs and fellow students. I feel like your videos have helped me substantially during my commercial pilot training, in understanding systems, as well as making me think more about little thing that can have a huge affect on a safe flight. Your videos Have definitely made me a safer Pilot, and give me a lot more confidence when i finally make it to the airlines, knowing that most of these incidents are Pilot error. In your last video i heard you say when you get a “Line up and wait” to stay just off center line, and it makes so much sense, i will start doing that. Thanks for all of the videos i definitely need to buy some Mentour Pilot Gear.
There is a lot of flying accidents analyzed on the internet/TH-cam but your analysis is the best of all, by a very wide margin to the rest. A note: The trim system is designed to prevent a stall on the control surfaces of the elevator, causing the elevator to react unpredictably. Therefore, you must do exactly what you notice: Track the trim to the elevator.
It is truly awful to hear the escalation of things going wrong in the final seconds. When you said their vertical speed was 18,000 feet per minute, I couldn't believe that was right. Thank you for all your coverage helping so many people understand the factors that lead to terrible accidents like these.
Video after video, what an endless chain of masterworks. I imagine almost every pilot in the world trying to get the most from these lessons. And still...the next unexpected scenario is waiting for all of them. What a hell of a job, you guys deserve every penny you earn.
A highly professional approach to narration and research methodology. After watching his videos, we can safely say that we are his students of aviation studies. Well done Sir.
As a race driver, the closest thing that happens to us is instantly losing all grip in a 130mph bend learning too late your engine was puking oil onto your tires, but we’re not @ 35k feet…
Fun fact: Depending on the race governing body and class, your car very probably can go faster than the free fall velocity of a human that has their arms and legs spread.
@@littlegrabbiZZ9PZA A human’s terminal velocity is only 120mph + obviously far less when you’re spread out. So, yeah, basically any race series is beating free fall velocity.
@@postersm7141For you, yes. Unless you’re on a track + have the new gen of suit w/airbags which make severe injury unlikely, crashing is pretty unforgiving. For race cars, we’re nigh on invulnerable with modern safety gear. Other than open wheel circle track racing, I laugh at all the people who think modern drivers are like gladiators taking major risks. No, those days were mostly over by the 1990s and are completely gone now.
Wow, you have to feel sorry for the first officer - did pretty much everything right. Shows just how quickly things can go from routine to unrecoverable. Spatial disorientation can happen to anyone but it's surprising that it happened in such a modern airliner with so much extra instrumentation and a HUD, which you would have thought would have provided some visual references. I have to say I agree that being 4am had alot to do with this especially after being essentially bored for 2 hours and then suddenly being asked to perform (again) a high stress rarely practised manouvere. RIP to all involved.
I dunno...I feel like it was confusion on the part if the FO that started everything in motion. It seems like everything was ok until he called out flaps at the beginning of the second go-around which confused the pilot. The pilot specifically said if they needed to abort the second landing attempt they'd do the exact same thing they did last time which was a wind sheer maneuver, not a standard go around. The whole thing is absolutely terrifying though. Such a simple mistake can end in such horrific tragedy.
I think the HUD actually harmed both pilots' situational awareness since the UI of the normal controls and the HUD are substantially different, and on top of that the first officer probably felt it best to rely on the captain's HUD since there's an assumption that it would allow him to fly better in a tough situation than the first officer could.
In any case, more tech does not equal better results. My guess is that the UAE had excess cash that it threw in flyDubai's direction to buy new toys and that they weren't really thinking of what practical benefit/impact it could have. When half of your takeoffs and landings will be at airports which seldom see a single drop of rain, there's no point to an HUD that would supposedly help in bad weather.
@@OGA103 I don't really agree with this, there was no windshear alert which makes one wonder why there wasn't considering the sudden gust of wind during the approach, on top of that the captain previously did say "windshear, go around" and had discussed that specifically on a windshear they'd commit to the same procedures, yet when the situation occurred, there was no windshear alert and he plainly just mentioned 'ok go around' which in most cases implies to a standard go around procedure, I wouldn't say the FO started this in motion but the captain did. The captain should have immediately known there was a miscommunication when the FO asked him about turning the flaps to 15, which you don't do during a windshear maneuvre, let alone retracting the landing gear.
Makes you wish there was an emergency button that maintained pitch at horizon and constant speed. That poor FO knew what needed to be done, and your explanation really shows how easy it is to make mistakes. I still remember my MSFS trim settings being opposite of what I thought they should be and freaked out when my trim settings put me in a dive and I continued adding more trim to compensate, but as it was the opposite of what I thought the trim settings should be I just nose dived straight into the ground. Disorientation sure does suck.
TH-cam just recommended me your channel since I love documenaries about different incidents and I'm really impressed by the quality of your video! Clear narration, great info presentation, very comprehensible. Thank you, I definitely going to watch all other your videos now
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Wow the production quality is impeccable, well done to you and your team 🙏🔥
Can I say you are an amazing individual I could listen to your voice all day very ASMR lol your knowledge is amazing your content is TV standard keep up the amazing work Captain your a credit to your profession 😊
I understand that you need ads on these videos but some of them appear at very disruptive places which spoil the fantastic narrative. It’s a real shame.
@Petter i would like to see an episode of the known facts for Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 in the future. Impeccable job sir! Thank you!
@@bmk4549 There have been some changes and I’m not sure they still let you choose when to put the ads, unfortunately. I know they used to let you.
The graphics, narration and content are so professionally done that at this point, this is like a full fledged documentary and not just the informed viewpoint of a full time pilot. Amazing!
Glad you enjoyed it! My team and I are constantly working on improving our work, to give you the best explanation possible.
Thank you for noticing!
I’d say it’s been like this for over a year now
@@MentourPilot Hi MentourPilot, how many people do you have working on your videos, if you don't mind me asking?
These videos are giving Nat Geo documentaries a run for their money honestly.
@@MentourPilotI'm a huge fan of yours, and I agree with everything that person said. I think I've binge watched practically all of your videos. I also watch 74 gear with Kelsey Hughes. I watched the one that you both made once. You Rock!
I’m an air traffic controller and we use your videos extensively during ECT, not only to provide better assistance during time of need, but also to learn valuable lessons that could potentially help us in the future. Never too old or experienced to learn and your videos serve as excellent library of information. Thank you for the amazing content!
I'm in shock he didn't reply to you as I think that would be such an honor.
@@Kapone27could be some concerns over "endorsing" his videos as training? Someone trying to be malicious could make something out of that. Maybe liability stuff too, but I don't know much about that. I'm sure he appreciates the compliments regardless of why he hasn't said anything
If, If this is true then good to hear this. Education with truth no matter where this is from is excellent; even to just get a different lesson from the way the teacher provides the words, lecture, etc.. As long as the lesson remains true…
@@ThePopopotatoesYou must be involved with American lawyers? Sue, sue EVERYONE
@davidjames-maddaford4531 I don't know much about law but I do know people sue over everything for sure. He may have been issued guidelines about what exactly he can comment on by his employer's law team.
The fact that you provide these better than tv documentaries for free is truly incredible
Thank you! We are working hard on them.
@@MentourPilot Interesting, how many people is working on this wonderful implementation?
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I've been an airline captain for 37 consecutive years. Have in excess of 27,000 hrs PIC, on 777, 767, 737, A320, 727 and ATR.
I'm still learning, been lucky on my career so far, without any serious trouble to date.
I must say this channel's content is the most precious ever, it's a valuable learning tool.
My sincere compliments to Mentour Pilot!
Totally agree
Thank you so much! Nothing feels better than receiving such praise from a fellow pilot.
Thank you for watching. 💕
I'd say it's not luck but professionalism. You've most probably successfully avoided troubles by doing everything by the book :)
No one has 27.000 hrs as PIC.🤦♂️You should have said total…
@@flyingbarbarian1thats not true.
I know a guy with over 47,000 hours total. I guarantee he has 27,000 hours PIC, at the least.
The copilot was a friend of my brother and I from years before the tragedy. We knew him quite well from those years. He was smart, and thorough. I investigated all that I could of how and what happened, and I saw he tried to save this situation as much as possible, but the captain was tremendously confused and deep in tunnel vision to back off his decisions and start trusting instruments in time. Very very sad. RIP Alex
I’m sorry for your loss. I hope this video made the accident justice in your eyes.
My condolences.
@@MentourPilot Thank you. His family indeed took the worst part. He had a brilliant career up ahead. What a terrible loss.
Man... I felt so bad for him throughout this video - it seems like he was aware of the real situation the entire time yet couldn't prevent it from happening. What a bad way to go... My condolences as well.
On the bright side they managed to get to the airport.
Ironically while covering these accidents, you're helping me rid me off my flight anxieties... seeing the brainpower that goes into this makes me feel safe.
I’ve been a pilot for 17 years here in Germany. Not only is this channel informative, it also serves as a valuable learning tool for pilots all across the globe. The simulator is a fantastic learning device, but most accidents I feel can be attributed to overload stress and crew resource management. Basic communication between crew members is absolutely essential. If something is wrong, mention it. And a good captain uses his resources and listens. Inexperience does not always equal a wrong answer.
Thank you for your videos. They are second to none and a vital resource for any current or future pilot! You may be saving future lives with your informative videos!
Says something about the deplorable state of the industry when a youtube channel is considered a valuable learning tool. Any potentially life saving training should already be mandatory for all pilots and not a social media past time.
@@listigt Our training is rigorous, thorough and safety orientated and that shows in the thousands upon thousands of flights that take off and land safely each day. In the years I’ve been an international pilot, I’ve never found myself in a situation that I couldn’t control, and that’s all thanks to our strict training and refresher programs.
However, incidents like these are extremely uncommon. It’s easy to become complacent which is why videos like this are so important to our ongoing awareness. We learn from our mistakes which is what has made air travel the safest form of transportation, and if every pilot has an open mind and is willing to learn on a constant basis, then videos like these are essential to that growth.
It has nothing to do with poor safety and training standards. It’s just another tool pilots can study and analyze to ensure we continue to expand our knowledge bases by making sure we learn from past mistakes. Knowledge is a wonderful thing, and any good, professional pilot will happily spend his or her free time becoming masters of their craft.
Seriously, I’m not even a pilot nor am I studying to be, but I feel like through all these videos I know exactly what to do in any situation in the air 😭😭
One of the check captains at my airline introduced me to this channel and I always watch now. Its great for pilots too to learn exactly how these incidents unfolded
@@listigtAre you a current commercial pilot?
I am a professional pilot since many years. My friend, I have to say that I never saw a crash analysis performed that well. Amazing combination of professional explanation and background information. Usually my wife falls asleep when we start watching a movie together, but putting your video on the TV she watched it with me till the end and showed big interest. Subscribing your channel was the least I could do to demonstrate my appreciation.
Thank you!
Would it not be safer just to get rid of human pilots and have fully automated flights?
Air travel will become a lot safer when the industry moves away from using humans as pilots
People will still die. But far less people will die with computer pilots rather than human pilots
@@mortgageapprovals8933 Tbh.. but then in situations like this it wouldnt be possivle or very hard at least. Cause things might pop up that the machine cannot solve or such
@@mortgageapprovals8933 could you please stop posting this bs!
@@LordOfSweden Eh. Looks like that guy (maybe a bot) is just spamming all of the top comments with the exact same copy/paste comment.
Maybe your wife likes the narrator❤
Most of us fly from place to place having no idea of the complex operations required in a normal flight, much less when conditions get harrowing. Awesome work here in giving such insight to us. I’ll never take for granted the knowledge, skill and stress management that pilots and crew execute every day. Thank you!
Also, I’ll feel pretty pathetic when I’m in my Jeep getting excited over a little bad weather, hectic traffic and careless drivers.
One of the most complex operations is trying to get to the toilet on a Ryanair flight. The cabin crew are ALWAYS in the aisle with trolleys trying to sell scratchcards, expensive tiny cans of beer and awful sandwiches.
@@gibson617ajg🤣🤣🤣🤣that’s one of the reason among a looong list why I fly aer Lingus or BA now
The problem is that there isn't a huge amount of stress management day to day and pilots are amazing at regular flights. It's when things go wrong that you work out who can actually fly or not, as in this example where the captain should never have been a pilot, but you don't know that until you actually put them in a difficult or stressful situation and then it's too late.
I can only imagine how fast the final 59 seconds must have occurred in that cockpit. Also, to be in the back of the plane at that time of morning, after waiting and waiting and waiting, the horror that some of the alert passengers must have realized was about to happen. I can only pray that the impact was so sudden, so severe and so instant that nobody had any chance to feel that for even a second. Wonderful job here, as always, describing the events as true to life as possibly. Thank you!
The fear seeing the ground rushing up would've been heart wrenching, but all deaths were most certainly instant. The impact at that speed and angle probably turned organs into paste, and those who may have survived a few extra seconds would've immediately passed out from shock. Probably.
@@lordlundin6495 ..hopefully. Tragedies like this, being off human error, it's really hard to accept. It pains me to know that with a little more training and possible more confidence in unexpected situations like this one CAN be avoided. This one doesn't really fit the Swiss cheese model necessarily, but things added up over almost 2 hours that unfortunately left these souls to their fate. Will technology and AI be the future? Maybe, but they're all still created and controlled by humans, and humans are inevitably going to make mistakes. I can only pray that everyone in the aviation community can learn something from an event like this.
It's not the death itself that's terrifying about it - ultimately we all go there. But very, very few will have to go through this insane amount of terror that it must be. No control, full G-force, the ground coming closer and closer as all of this happens. Phones, shoes, computers flying around, people screaming for their lives. A collective experience of everyone knowing what is happening and nobody wants it. My god. This is what my flight anxiety is made of.
Absolute torture to experience.
I feel so bad for the First Officer. Sounds like he really tried and knew what he was doing the entire time.
What's up with company procedures?? So let's say the captain is incapacitated by experiencing a heart attack and is completely unable to fly the plane, will the 1st officer still not take control because the captain did not have the opportunity to say "your control" to the 1st officer before he passed out? This is getting scary now.
@@myoutuber77there are company procedures for a clear pilot incapacitation, but the pilot was still calling things out and doing things. During a tricky maneuver like they were doing, the copilot would have had a hard time realizing the pilot was completely lost in the precious few seconds where he could have made a difference
@@myoutuber77Airlines clearly need your vast expertise in order to fix these problems. You need to contact them all right away and tell them you can fix all of this for the future.
Seriously, Dubai may have countless human rights violations and slave labor for a bunch of absurd rich madmens ego projects but the pilots are damn good
It's hard to have much faith in any policy made in Dubai haha..even ignoring the slave labor, dictatorship & corner cutting but all their urban planning is comically bad, the palm fronts are sinking and the Burj doesn't even have indoor plumbing and needs poop trucks hahah. It's a mix of morally bankrupt plutocrats and comically bad design and planning
Even though I'm not a pilot, I am fascinated by the intricacies of being a pilot. Each video I watch makes want to know more about how the aviation industry become safer from not only the unfortunate accidents but as well as pilots being able to save their plane, passengers, crews. What I really enjoy is how you and your team break down each story so that a common Joe to understand.
Unlike most of your covered incidents, this seemed much less a Swiss cheese model and much more a tragic plethora of challenges and confusion happening all at once. So sad, since the crew had been so professional and cautious.
Yes, that’s correct. This time it was basically only a few seconds of confusion that caused the accident.,
When you mentioned the aileron input at the end, it almost seemed to me that the pilot realized the situation but had no idea how to rectify it and then decided to make the outcome as instant and pain free as possible.
The "Swiss cheese modell" is essentially the same thing (from a different perspective) as defense in depth. Once you learn that trying to improve security / safety in one area to prevent more and more problems wouldn't be feasible. But if you have multiple layers of defense and you need multiple independent events (failures) to face unwanted consequences, then your chances would improve much. If the failures should be "aligned" in some way (another "independent" event with a low probability) the chances of a catastrophic failure would be even lower.
It is used by militaries, nuclear engineering, aviation, civil engineering, IT, etc.
The big problem is: Often we assume that even if we give up a few lines of defense we would be still safe enough, but once we gave up too many lines of our defense a "few extra problems" can lead to catastrophic consequences. It happens almost everywhere. When whole slices of the Swiss cheese are missing, you don't see the missing pieces of cheese, and you won't treat the whole big missing part of it as a giant hole, you won't see that as some alarming incident.
Why did the first officer not take control? He clearly understood the situation.
@@vlbz apparently he was known not to assert himself in the cockpit 😢
I remember watching your videos when you were on the sofa with the notes and the dogs. There was nothing wrong with that and I still love your old video, but it's so amazing to see how you've grown the channel into making TV quality documentaries at this point. You're an inspiration Petter!
Thank you so much!
Me too
Mentour Pilot Petter never gets old!
I miss those dogs. They help me feel better when the accident is catastrophic.
The Dogs :D
Omg, how you described the weightlessness? I FELT IT. This was so well explained - to the point where I could imagine that feeling, I've felt it on rollercoasters. Being lifted up, looking DOWN on the controls, omg.
I live in Rostov-on-Don and this tragedy really shocked all of us. And unfortunately someone I know were affected and lost the members of their families. I’ve read a lot of investigations and different articles about this catastrophe, but only here and now I really understood what happened. Thank you for this video and explanation. And may all the crash victims rest in peace 🙏
And now your people continue to kill people in Ukraine
The tv show, Mayday, did an episode on it.
No one cares about Russians anymore! Stop invading Ukraine
How about the genocide of Ukrainians you are conducting? That not a shock?
Скоро у вас это чаще будет вот увидишь
Thank you for the continuous high-quality content on your channel. Although my profession is not aviation, I think there is a lot to learn and be inspired from the professionalism in the aviation industry. Your channel enables exactly that.
Thank you so much for your generosity! I am so happy you like what we do!
One of the saddest things about these stories is there's almost always one or two people that know they're about to die and they know that they can't stop it. I hope I never have to be in a situation like that. They shouldn't have had to be in a situation like that. It's really scary and very sad. :(
Agreed , having zero hope in a fatal or potentially fatal situation is probably one of the scariest things a human being/brain can experience 😢
Exactlyy... i think abt this alot... how terrifying it mustve been to be in their position.. i really have nothing but respect for these pilots
@@mtktkt3773 Rather them than me though.
Very sad indeed. On a different note, Imagine animals in a slaughter house watching other animals getting killed. Imagine that feeling.
I'm on my 3rd lesson its mental up there haha
Your video quality, narration, and cinematics are amazing. You are also teaching future pilots about safety and how to recognise where they can go wrong. Thank you for your amazing videos.
Albert Einstein said, if you can’t explain it to a six year old you don’t understand it yourself. I am not 6 years old but when it comes to aviation I may as well be. After watching your videos I can give a reasonable explanation as to what happened in the event you reviewed. Proud to be part of you patron crew. Keep the videos coming.
Einstein never said that and it's honestly isnt a very insightful quote. Some things are just complicated and takes years of training to get right and respect should be given to it.
@@bradchervel5202 Thank you for your correction, if your correct. You maybe, I am not sure. I was not standing beside Einstein every time he said something. Where you?. It was something I heard. My point was not a historical one and possibly I was taking poetic licence. My point was Mentour Pilot is able to take a difficult complex report and put it in a format that almost anyone can understand. But well done for pointing out my miss quote.
@@killerdublin Thank you for being gracious, with my douchey reply. Cheers
I have noticed over the last few weeks some excellent content being put through on the Patreon platform. Their philosophy and productions are outstanding and now when I'm looking for videos, I am quick to note those produced by Patreon. Wow. I'd only watched three videos of Petters when he mentioned Patreon and it clicked.......no wonder they're so
good.
@@bradchervel5202 LOL...ol' Einstein is like the new Confucius or Aesop with words of wisdom being ascribed to him without any real references to actually have saying them.
The fact that this accident could have almost been avoided is so heart breaking. I can't even begin to imagine the fear everyone was facing onboard that plane. R.I.P
Most of them are like that. RMS Titanic was travelling at 11 m/s (22 knots) and the impact sequence ended with a 10 m gash, opening Boiler Room 6 and 5. This was the fatal damage. Compartments 1-4 where flooding, compartments 5 and 6 (from the bow) aka Boiler Room 6 and 5 where opened up in the last second of the impact sequence. After that Murdoch got the stern to swing out of the way and no more damage was done. Boiler Room 6 had one small leak besides that 10 m gash. However that was well within the capability of the pumps which could do 600 t per hour if I remember. Certainly she would have floated long enough for Carpathia to dock alongside and take everyone aboard and run lines from her pumps down into BR 6 and 5. Then wait for daylight and draw straws on who gets to be lowered down to stuff cloth into the holes and plug them up enough to pump the compartments dry, repair the damage with some big wood planks and sail into Halifax for slightly more permanent repairs and back to Belfast into the drydock. More or less what Olympic had done a year earlier after colliding with a large warship. Of course Titanic had to donate her starboard propeller shaft to her older sis and so Titanic was delayed several months as Harland and Wolf made a new shaft and so Titanic set sail on April 10. Still due to miss the iceberg. However due to ice warnings course was altered South putting them on a direct collision course with the iceberg. Had they actually ignored the warnings they would have been safe. Titanic was a fantastic design and the long career of her sister Olympic proved that. Just very very unlucky. Oh and SS Californian was less than an hour away. Surrounded by ice and stopped for the night. They didn't have 24 h radio so the radioman went to sleep at 1130 PM. Titanic sent out the first SOS 15 minutes later. The set was still on but he had taken off the headphones. Of course they saw the rockets and they saw a giant liner suddenly stop, begin to list and then dissappear with some flashes occasionally that could be a morse lamp but was figured to be a masthead light. No one bothered to wake the radioman so Titanic sank 10 miles from a liner perfectly capable of holding 2000 people. Lusitania was similar so many coincidences led to the ship being vulnerable. On course and speed no chance but just as U-20 was about to give up Lucy slowed down and turned right towards them to go looking for a lighthouse in the fog. So instead of going 21 knots, still slow for Lucy, way to fast for a U-Boat. It was one of the holes in the slices of Emmentaler.
Yea its crazy that just second before impact the plane was still technically recoverable. Now it probably wouldnever have been flown again as the force of gravity would have surely bent the airframe but it still may have saved everyone on board
It could entirely have been avoided. Pilot was rubbish and completely lost it.
Oh wow... throughout almost the entire video, right up until you told us that the GPWS warnings were too late, I had been thinking that this was going to be one of those "near miss" incidents, where they went through some terrifying loss of control, but were able to pull through in the end. I hadn't ever heard of this accident before, and figured that if it had ended in a fatal crash, I'd have known about it already. That ending was such a gut punch. Just shows how quickly things can change in the cockpit.
I hoped the same so I went to the comments to find out. Disappointing. I always hope for a near miss.
Would it not be safer just to get rid of human pilots and have fully automated flights?
Air travel will become a lot safer when the industry moves away from using humans as pilots
People will still die. But far less people will die with computer pilots rather than human pilots
@@mortgageapprovals8933 Overall, commercial aviation is still the safest form of transport, so let's not throw a running system out of the window to try something totally new.
But I honestly think that there is still too high of a mental load involved in operating a commercial airliner. Humans really excell as predictive, real-time controllers, withhin our limits.
So, any system relying on our control has to assure either by design or by computer augumentation, that it stays within those limits. The most fundamental real-time criterion is the deadline. If the delay between input and control output is below the deadline, the control loop is closed. The more time reserve, the more reserve there is for some additional workload.
However, once the delay is close to, or at the deadline, there is no reserve left. Once that happens, the control loop is open, the controller is not able to respond to the input, but will rather act undefined. "Staying in front of" or "Getting behind of" the aircraft are, at least in some sense, directly related to this real-time criterion. Once you are over the deadline, you are getting "behind".
Control of a modern airliner should be further abstracted away to the bare basics (advanced avionics with very simple UI, which should still exercise the "stick-and-rudder-skills") to limit, or even better, manage mental load. Â HUD may not just display graphical elements, put on some lightweight, ~2030 AR glasses with a full FOV, and you have beautiful VFR conditions with overlayed atmospheric information with the worst IMC outside. While we don't want the pilots to be overwhelmed, they also shouldn't get bored. Let the pilots be skilled aviators, let the avionics do most of the rest, and let the system experts tune in via broadband LEO satellite link from a proper control room with full diagnostic access if issues of any sort are detected.
@mortgageapprovals8933 Is that true? I don't know if that's the solution. There are so many factors at play & crashes that have happened with the autopilot/computer systems playing a big role.
Better technology will definitely be great at improving the autopilot systems, therefore saving lives, but I still think we are a long way until it is safer to not have humans as pilots completely.
The chart at 42:44 gave me the ending, sadly for all on board.
The quality of the explanation at 33:16 (behind/ahead of the aircraft) is just insane. Thank you Mentour for letting us enjoy your lectures.
As a pilot I should that part confusing. Ahead -> you expect the plane to do something based on your knowledge. That's it. No need for silly graphics.
@@TheLukaszpgwhy describe it as silly when someone benefit from it ? Is the goal of teaching not to make your listeners understand what is taught ? Some people appreciate things better with graphics so no need to be behave that way while proudly making the world know you are pilot . Imagine how you’d feel being called a silly pilot 🥺
As a private pilot SEP, I learn a lot from every single one of your videos. Thank you very much, Petter and team, for the excellent analysis of that terrible accident and for the realistic detailed presentation. Like I read in some comments, I also felt myself directly in that cockpit. So sad to see, that a relatively stable 2nd approach turned into maximum catastrophic constellation within only one minute. The pilot monitoring 1st officer certainly had good skills in flying and he might have been able to recover the aircraft out of the horrible status, caused by his captain. An important lesson for all 1st officers out there to speak up earlier, when things exceed obviously the given parameters, and to offer or to 'order' taking over controls. Greetings from Germany.
Although this is a lesser-known accident, it is one of your best videos. The level of detail is amazing and the script is engaging and tense.
Thank you! Glad you found it interesting
A tragic story told with great understanding and empathy, as usual. As with many of these incidents, I was sitting on the edge of my seat hoping for a happy ending but slowly becoming aware it's a Swiss cheese scenario or someone being overwhelmed by a situation. Keep up the excellent work.
Thank you, I will
I looked to the comments because it’s the first thing I want to know. “Do the pilots survive?”
I've flown the 744/767/777/787/737 and been a Captain on 777 & 737. These videos are superb - well done!
Sir, I use your presentations in my mental situational awareness training as a maritime pilot at The Panama Canal.
My mantra:
Situational Awareness: Always alert to changing clues, avoid tunnel vision. Complacency breeds accidents. Take Action (~Aviate). Anticipate (Be ahead), and many more.
Thanks for your thoroughness.
I am not an airplane pilot, but I learn so much from these tragedies. I always shed tears for the victims and families because it is terrible to lose a loved one.
This channel teaches me to stay humble because it shows that even highly skilled people can be overwhelmed by mistakes. We are always trying to get better, and it's easy to get lost in the desire to explore new things.... This is where I learn the importance of practicing "the basics". So today I'm going to get the old Lego box out of the cupboard and start building our dream house again..
Air Traffic Controllers, Pilots, Cabin Crew, Nerds Like myself and many other people are hooked to this amazing stuff you are putting out there for us. It is miles ahead of even the best show national geographic used to air. I salute you sir. Keep up the good work.
As a young engineer that only just started her career in aviation, I must thank you and your team for your hard work explaining each and every incident. You cannot imagine how your content not only helps pilots but also other people who work in aviation.
Thanks to your content, I’ve understood things more in depth and it brought a new meaning to my job as an aeronautics engineer and how much every detail can make a change.
Keep up the good work! ❤
Congratulations on your career position as a aeronautics engineer, that is a blessing! I know you will prosper and bring tremendous amounts of talent to your work flow and work environment. God bless you.
Would it not be safer just to get rid of human pilots and have fully automated flights?
Air travel will become a lot safer when the industry moves away from using humans as pilots
People will still die. But far less people will die with computer pilots rather than human pilots
And as a young part-time male/female stripper, I must thank you.
@@mortgageapprovals8933 computers are great at handling autonomous tasks, but they are not capable of managing situations outside of expected parameters the same way humans are. There are many examples on this channel where the computers fail to perform correctly due to things like incorrect data or run into software errors/bugs. Piloting is too involved and complex to be replaced by automated systems (at least for now), plus you really don’t want to be in a situation where those systems fail and there’s no humans on board to take control
You go, girl!🖖
I was not really prepared for this to end in such a tragic crash. It seemed like such a simple issue, but unfortunately that wasn't the case. This is one of the accidents that are so sad because it seemed so preventable. My condolences to all who lost their loved ones.
When they do the somber fade out on Petter sitting in his chair with a certain look on his face, I know it’s not going to end well. Read the cues. But yeah, it’s still tough to imagine. As humans we hope for the best.
It was presented in a manner which made it look like a series of events contributed to the accident. But in reality it was just bad piloting that caused it. There are videos of incidents where pilots worked heroically despite everything working against them. While here the plane was perfectly fine, he sort of prevented it from flying properly.
I found this more disturbing than other videos because it seemed so preventable, and actually the crew seemed to be working effectively. To me, this just shows that we are fundamentally fallible human beings and not perfect. This error costs so many lives in this case. Very sobering and very sad.
Would it not be safer just to get rid of human pilots and have fully automated flights?
Air travel will become a lot safer when the industry moves away from using humans as pilots
People will still die. But far less people will die with computer pilots rather than human pilots
@@mortgageapprovals8933 That may be possible in the future ... the FAR distant future where we are finally able to create extremely complicated electro/mechanical/hydraulic AI machines with complete cognizance and zero malfunctions ... (ZERO malfunctions Ever!). So, until such time ... the answer to your question is no. ^v^
I have no knowledge or experience in anything aviation related but I stumbled into this rabbit hole and your videos are so good. The way you lay things out mean that I can follow along without any prior knowledge and I've actually learned quite a lot just in the few videos I've watched. It's fascinating, thank you for the effort you put into making these!
I fell in the hole a month ago. I'm still hanging out though, it's really cosy down here with the Mentour video library,😁
I'm from Rostov and do live nearby, that accident ended up closing the airport forever and bringing our new airport 37 km away from the city
Братуха звуковой перевод нельзя сделать случайно?)))
@@Dolmatiko-Mучи английский
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it's not because of the accident, stop spreading misinformation.
@@L2002 why was it closed in that case?
This accident and explanations of it from various sources have puzzled me for many years. But you explained it very well and clarified a lot of details, thanks for sharing.
Been watching air crash documentaries since my childhood and I usually watch them skipping mutliple times but never came across something so marvelous. The graphics, the narration with the time stamps, the easy-to-understand explanation; spot on. Hats off to you man!!
Thank you! 💕💕
These documentaries get better and better with each episode. The visuals, story structure and explanations are incredible. I’ve got my first ATPL exams in January and these videos and investigations help a lot with the understanding of content. Thank you MP.
Thank YOU for watching. Best of luck with your training!
@@MentourPilot thank you!
Would it not be safer just to get rid of human pilots and have fully automated flights?
Air travel will become a lot safer when the industry moves away from using humans as pilots
People will still die. But far less people will die with computer pilots rather than human pilots
My friend live in a building bordering the airport.
When plane smashed into the ground, the whole building was shaken, and few windows got broken.
Some small fragments of the aircraft were scattered across his and some nearby buildings' roofs.
That should give you a rough idea of the forces involved.
That's wild
Basically a manned missile. What a tragedy 😢😢😢
What a grisly scene, I don't even want to know if some body parts got scattered around the area
@oraclerex that makes it worse😨
As a cabin crew member for over 20 years, I have found this video fascinating and so informative. It is excellently explained and narrative is excellent, i have just discovered this channel and subscribed. Absolutely excellent
As a frequent flyer, i treasure these insights into how safe aviation travel is. Flying is complicated, and yet flying is still the safest mode of transportation. Channels like yours showcase what can go wrong, but highlight what prevents these accidents from happening in the first place.
It depends. Flying is safer per miles traveled due to covering much larger distances. But due to the risk in take off and landing, shorter flights are statistically much more dangerous than train travel.
Would it not be safer just to get rid of human pilots and have fully automated flights?
Air travel will become a lot safer when the industry moves away from using humans as pilots
People will still die. But far less people will die with computer pilots rather than human pilots
@@mortgageapprovals8933 I would have to say anybody who thinks that has not had much experience with automated systems. We cannot even get self driving cars to work properly yet.
Automation is very good at certain things, but the unexpected is not one of them. Even the best systems i have worked on, cannot cope with things they haven't been programmed to deal with.
@@mortgageapprovals8933computers don't know how to fly in unexpected conditions. Standard procedures go wrong and are only saved by quick decision making of pilots. AI is unpredictable as we don't really know why inputs turn into outputs due to insanely high dimensionality, we can only comprehend around 4dim while models are 1000dim
No, Mr Mortgage Approver 8933. Petter has mentioned in some other videos that flight crews consider the autopilot as their third crew member. Machines and automation has already greatly improved safety in this industry and will continue to do so, but I don't believe that they will ever be able to handle every single unique situation. We as a species work best when we cooperate and share knowledge, and autopilots are the same way.
I've been a subscriber since 3 years now. The quality of the graphics/narration has consistently increased.
Thank you Petter & Team Mentour Pilot. Keep up the amazing work! ❤
We will certainly try! Thank you for being here, supporting what we do!
@@MentourPilotI now personally thank "all the crew" before I exit the airplane. Tack Petter!
Can’t stop watching your videos. There’s so much to learn from every one of them. Thank you for your contribution to aviation safety, I’m sure all pilots all learning something from them. You’re a real mentor !
They are excellent for sure.
Amazing quality on a step by step analysis of a sad story. Sitting comfortay in a late night, dark office with a warm coffee in my hands, actually not far from DXB, my heart breaks watching how quickly things can go from stabilized to a point of complete madness. I feel so sorry about the passengers and pilots, especially knowing if the co-pilot could have taken over the controls then they would have survived for quite sure. I just imagine that captain recognizing how deeply lost he is and saying: "it's your control".. may have had a different outcome. I honestly wish that they were all in a peaceful and lovely place now..
A very sad, unfortunate situation. However, there is one glaring omission. My partner flew as a Purser with Flydubai for 9 years and during that time, senior management also played a huge part in the decision-making process with respect to flying choices. It was well known amongst the flight deck community, that said management would not suggest, rather demand that no diversions would take place, unless 100% unavoidable. They were more concerned over saving money and not having to deal with the subsequent consequences of a diversion, which you so clearly highlighted. In fact, strong rumours suggested that management threatened the captain that his future employment was at stake, if he chose to divert. Money over safety.
I have read the communication between the pilots and the ops-controller. It was in the final report and there was NO indication of that.
They clearly said that it was up to him but that they recommended holding for as long as possible and only try another approach if they felt comfortable with it.
Whilst I respect your analysis of the communication that took place, there are also the communication reports that had been redacted during the subsequent crash investigation, including personal accounts from other flydubai flight deck. Very similiar to the communication between EK and the entire crew after their near fatal flight out of Melbourne in early 2000. Snr management contacted all the crew saying that they were strictly forbidden to contact their family/partners etc over what they had just experienced and that their mobile devices would be monitored for any such activity. Sadly, that seems to be the middle eastern approach to treating their staff.@@MentourPilot
@@MentourPilot I'd guess what dispatch is saying over a recorded channel and what they're telling someone in a meeting with no cookies is significantly different...
@@realulli That is exactly what I think, too.
Would it not be safer just to get rid of human pilots and have fully automated flights?
Air travel will become a lot safer when the industry moves away from using humans as pilots
People will still die. But far less people will die with computer pilots rather than human pilots
I am a pilot and it was so hard to watch the last few moments of this video. Brilliantly made.
I’m not a pilot but also found the end hard to watch. I always want them to survive.
I'm not a pilot but I've watched so many of these videos. I don't think I've seen a configuration that wasn't pilot suicide where the pitch was so low and so fast. Horrifying.
@@morgan4574 It’s such a shame that the FO wasn’t more assertive. He had plenty of speed to exchange for pitching up to regain altitude. Sometimes I wonder if they forget that they can actually take control from the captain and don’t have to rely on persuasion and just verbally giving instructions.
The scary part for me always is how they happen so fast. 59 secs . Like wtf
Air France 447 went down so fast
The flight that had the pilots kids in the captain’s seat also so fast
Too many things to watch out for in few seconds . Most of us would probably lose orientation too
As a flight data analyst, I'm learning so much from this channel. The more I analyze the flights and learn, the more I realize human factors play key roles in flight safety. Thanks for the video!
Yes, the obvious conclusion being that AI should fly the planes.
@@biosecurePM I don't think the AI is the ultimate solution though
Would it not be safer just to get rid of human pilots and have fully automated flights?
Air travel will become a lot safer when the industry moves away from using humans as pilots
People will still die. But far less people will die with computer pilots rather than human pilots
I have just discovered your channel. As an Air Crash Investigation “fan”, I was really impressed by your ability to keep the content interesting and technically accurate and detailed, with a fraction of National Geographic’s production means. Well done! 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 I also like the fact that you cover more non-fatal accidents. The lessons learned are less painful to watch, being equally important for the betterment of the industry. Thank you! ✈️
Hey Petter, I’ve been a longtime follower of your channel and still always find good educational ‘takeaways’ to use in my own industry(30 years in automative sector), and in particular, human performance factors.
I believe a lot of people can also benefit from your video’s in either their professional or personal life.
Big thanks to you and the MP team!
Agree!
Running out of things i can say in praise for this channel, it really is of the highest quality by such a professional team and never fails to deliver. Thank you for your hard work Petter and keep up the amazing work!
It’s an honor to get such high praise. 💕
We are doing this for you guys and we are so happy that our work is being appreciated.
@@MentourPilot sir I got a question. There have been multiple cases so far where the copilot could of saved the plane, but didn't. Why is that? Why don't they try and take over the flight controls?
@@pancak3because the pilot is often keen on staying in control either out of ego or panic - sometimes both. When both pilots attempt to control the aircraft, the net result is neutral aka nothing really results out of the copilot attempting to take control. The pilots likely believe they're more experienced and because of that, would rather navigate by themselves than defer that task to their junior.
@@jodyyy8752 but if the co pilot knows that the captain is not right in his mind, cant he like ask someone to come remove him from the seat or sumn XD
I really like how unique you are as an aviation TH-camr, you don't make stupid shorts retelling terrible crash stories over and over again, you don't constantly ask to like and subscribe, you tell actually really cool stories that feel like documentaries and you even use MFS's amazing aircraft models to show the detail of everything in the stories, you are awesome 👍
Although there is one thing...
Can we get the mentour reacts and technical videos back?
These others topics are covered in the mentour now channel. Petter's second channel
No moronic CONSTANT jump cuts because he can actually speak and respects his audience instead of assuming they can’t concentrate on short videos.
"and you even use MFS's amazing aircraft models to show the detail of everything in the stories"
Actually, he is using shitty last-gen aircraft models and I've begged him to use MSFS but his production crew are XP fanboys and REFUSE to use the vastly superior MSFS. That just means that his videos won't age well and are not as good looking as other TH-camrs.
@@Great-Documentariesit’s a better simulator and looks fine.
OMG this video is so well done. It's better than a documentary. I used to watch a lot of Mayday and Air Crash Investigation documentaries when I was younger, but it was hard to find different cases. I was so happy when I found your channel all those years ago when you started talking about planes in general and your life as a pilot while sitting on the couch. And then you started giving your perspective on various crashes/accidents and I was thrilled!! I love seeing your channel grow. You guys are absolutely amazing. Thanks for all your hard work!
No words for this production!!
Man, you surely deserve thanks and subscription. Accidentally landed on your channel and immediately got addicted. Your production level is getting better and better with every video.Lot of respect for all those hours you and your team put into these videos.
Welcome aboard! 💕💕
Same here!
Great job Petter, describing a sad accident that simply should NOT have happened.
(I’m a retired 30k hour captain, with lots of time on both the 737-800 with it’s fabulous HUD, and other Boeings up to and including the 747-400.)
It was a really sad, very disturbing story, showing how absolutely critical it is to stay ahead of the aeroplane.
I wonder why he was so loathe to use Autopilot in such conditions.
Would it not be safer just to get rid of human pilots and have fully automated flights?
Air travel will become a lot safer when the industry moves away from using humans as pilots
People will still die. But far less people will die with computer pilots rather than human pilots
@@mortgageapprovals8933I’m not sure, if pilots land less often then the times when the autopilot has to disconnect automatically are going to become even harder for them with a lack of muscle memory. Probably leading to more accidents than there are now.
@@mortgageapprovals8933 If you’d ever sat on a jump seat on a busy sector you would realise that “self flying” aeroplanes are as far away as it’s possible to imagine.
Manipulation of the controls (ie: actually flying the aeroplane) is just a very small fraction of what we manage in the cockpit.
As the old saying goes: “flying is 99% boredom and 1% sheer terror” - though I’d personally never use the word terror, as I have always loved it when we get busy.
@@mortgageapprovals8933you keep posting this, and people keep disagreeing.
Dude.we get it. No need to make the same comment over and over. Go touch some grass.
I've been hooked on this channel for a few months now and it has massively increased my respect for pilots, ATC crew and cabin crew. My childhood dream was to become a pilot, which was never realised (due to imperfect hearing and vision), but your videos have helped me to realise all the other reasons why it's best if I leave this role to the professionals...
The visuals on this episode were cinematic. Bravo Mentour Pilot and team! 🌟🌟🌟
Thank you so much! I’m so glad you liked it. 💕💕
I also liked the music choice and the editing was on point
It’s always surprising and terrifying when the time between normality and tragedy is mentioned, in this case less than a minute.
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And at that point everyone aboard was accustomed to a last second go around so even that would have seemed relatively normal until the plane suddenly starts diving and rolling over.
Airline FO here and your videos are so good that I was clinching my hands and teeth so hard that by the end of the video I was sweating and with jaw pain.
Incredible work my friend!
You doing this video is a dream come true for me: I remember that I had requested you in the comments to do this ASAP, long ago when you had just started to make investigative videos.
As always, the direction and the storytelling of the video is terrific and fantastic! Keep up the good content!!
It never ceases to amaze me how fast things can go terribly wrong when pilots loose situational awareness. I wish every car accident on the ground would be so meticulously analyzed and lead to mandatory recommendations, like in aviation. A lot of lives would be saved, even if the cost would probably be quite high. Thanks for another amazing video!
Watching this from a flight dispatcher perspective, I always tell myself what could I have done. SIGMETs are a part of the flight plan package and pre-flight briefing, and this video re-emphasizes the importance of giving full information, ALWAYS! Thank you, Mentour Pilot, for giving us this presentation. You're now an inspiration to me as an aspiring aviation content creator. Subscribing done!
How utterly horrifying. It reminds me a little of AF 447. In that accident, one pilot was pushing the yoke down, the other one pulling it up. It is really something, the crash was relatively quite recent. It still means that accidents can happen.
Yes,but the pilots of AF447 had more time to figure out what was going on and recover, these pilots were coerced by the company to fly a holding pattern for over two hours instead of just diverting. Fatigue played a big part in this accident and I think the captain was planning on leaving Flydubai because of the working conditions.
These are such amazing mini documentaries! As a physician I recommend them to colleagues as they unmask the cognitive challenges in all high risk occupations.
This man's training is free and shrewd. He will save many lives if pilots and aspiring pilots will watch this humble channel. Heck am not even a pilot but I know arrogance is selfish. Captains who don't care and first officers too afraid to speak out and take control.
Simply awsome! 🇸🇪🇸🇪🇸🇪!!!
With total lack of background, experience, education, knowledge (or honestly no particular interest in aviation what so ever!) I'm just blown away by you and your team's ability to create content that are both professional, insightful, formal, strict, respectful yet thrilling, suspenceful and highly, highly entertaining!
Only channel on YT that still gets a big "YES!!!" when a new video is out!
//Best wishes from Sweden! 🇸🇪
As usual, Your analysis and comments were amazing.
Have you ever felt that moments like what these pilots were experiencing, the automation of flight parameters really contribute to overwhelming the thought processes of the pilot in the worst possible moment. You can just never remove the human element. The automation is far quicker than the human reasoning ability.
Everyone have experienced the sensation of “falling behind” the aircraft and its horrible.
That’s why procedures are so important.
@@MentourPilotNo matter your profession, nothing is worse than the mental fog of losing the bubble.
Even the mental effort of consciously realizing that you’ve lost the bubble can feel like trying to lift a mountain.
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One of the things I admire about you and your channel compared to most "aircraft disaster" shows is how much sympathy you have for the pilots involved in situations like this. A lot of shows present pilots involved in major disasters as incompetent buffoons who let down their passengers, but you recognise most pilots are decent professional people doing a job, but who became overwhelmed or let down by the situation, their training, or psychology. "There but for the grace of God go I."
These episodes now blow any sort of Nat Geo type air incident documentaries, with all their overly dramatic 'entertainment' elements out of the water.
Massive thanks to you Petter, and all of your superb team - so well explained, presented and executed.
Patreon membership here I come 👍🙂
The focus is different for both . Appreciate both for what they are and stick to the one that meets your interest
Can you give us an example of overly dramatic entertainment in such a documentary?
No, this is better than NatGeo or History.
The amount of visual detail and explanations in your videos is second to none. I am only 8 minutes in but I just had to say that. I love how you have the definitions and all the visuals along with it, makes it very enjoyable watch each time. :)
Thank you and your team for making this fantastic educational video. Like many others, I find myself comforted about my safety flying even when I learn about tragedies/accidents like this because I know that this caliber of video would not be possible without thorough and comprehensive investigations. I love your compassion and empathy not only for the pilots/flight crew/cabin crews who heroically avert disaster, but for those who are not able to do so. I think about your insight in my own moments of crisis or anxiety.
This is one of your best videos ever. You are unmatched in terms of analytical aircraft incident videos. I can’t wait to follow your progress and, for the next release! Keep up the good work, Petter.
I honestly don't know how you find time to make these top quality videos and be a full time pilot at the same time. I really hope you continue to though, you're my favourite youtube channel hands down 🙂 Thank you!!
He has a team that he works with to make his youtube content 😊
Also Pilots don't work much. The Autopilot does all the work
@@danielabackstromof course, but look how long Petter talks! Its an insane amount of content to produce, AND edit! Plus the research
wow you must be incredible thick. Think about how much you have to deal with complicated scheduling, jet lag, circadian challenges and have to be at peak acuity for every flight, having to do all the preparation you need outside of work like exercising, eating well, etc@@salemabdulalhassam3726
@@Julia-nl3gqI’m pretty sure it was supposed to be a yoke, I mean a joke.
As a HUGE Aviation Lover/Plane Spotter etc I've Started Plating the Microsoft Flight Simulator and I learn much of what I have to do and the reading of Instruments by Watching this Channel. Much Love All, Dean from Birmingham UK.
Man, the production quality in your videos is wild. thank you again.
Glad you like them! We do what we can to explain the story as well as we can!
it is extremely disconcerting how a pilot can be disorientated so quickly. Understandably this also confirms the different attitudes in control systems by Boing and Airbus, as Airbus wishes to make flying safer by more automation and Boing on the other hand believes the pilot has final input. It would be interesting to fly a simulator with these exact conditions using , for instance, an airbus A320 to find out if the automation protections would have kicked in and saved the aircraft. Extremely sad how such a professional crew were overcome by circumstances which eventually caused the wrong decisions to be made causing the aircraft to crash.
Both philosophies have their pros and cons but the ability to change the priority and even lock out the other pilot controls would have been useful here.
That’s why neither is truly superior. Accidents happen with both types of aircraft that wouldn’t happen in the other.
Accepted but we are discussing this particular incident and my question was under these circumstances would the different philosophies have made a difference. I believe that automation may be more dangerous than human error because the failure of a component may cause incorrect data which may contribute towards a catastrophe, therefore any automation should always be observed and corrected by human oversight!
@@MarcusWeinreich The irony is that in this particular accident, if the FO had been more assertive and decided to take the controls by force then he had an option that no Boeing pilot could ever have. The “pilot priority” button located on the Airbus side stick that’s the equivalent of the yoke/control column.
With one button press and hold the FO could have locked the confused captain out of the controls and flown the aircraft to safety. Pressing and holding the button causes the Airbus to ignore all input made by the other pilot, in this case the captain. Of course the Airbus verbally announces this “right side priority” but short of physically assaulting the FO there’s nothing the captain could do.
Instead of literally fighting the captain for control of the yoke since they’re linked, he could have just taken control. In a Boeing if the captain was pushing nose down and the FO is pulling nose up, whoever is physically stronger “wins” though as we see in this accident, nobody won. The additional irony is that Airbus also have a “flight envelope protection system” which means that up until the upset flight became too extreme, the captain could have simply let go of the controls and the Airbus would have automatically corrected and stabilised itself. And unless the autopilot was acting in a degraded mode, it wouldn’t have let the captain put any dangerous control movements to begin with.
I sound like a total Airbus fan girl in this comment but it’s just how the automation and flight philosophy would have worked in this particular accident. There are of course other crashes which wouldn’t have happened to a Boeing. Like I said, neither are truly superior and like you, I believe the human pilot should have the final say over the computer. The human pilot should always have the option to disable the autopilot and fly manually, but that’s a debate for another day.
Strange how you are confirming the exact point I was trying to make, in other words would the Flight Envelope Protection System have prevented the pilot the pilot from making such a catastrophic error? The First Officer's input can , for all intents and purposes, be discounted because this aircraft went from stable flight to unrecoverable in less than a minute and during that time the effects of negative G forces would have made his actions negligible or hardly significant!@@mikoto7693
I am an English as Second Language (ESL) online teacher. I have a couple of online students who are pilots, a Chinese and an Arabian. The reason they take English classes is because they need to be proficient in English for their work. I enjoy your videos. It gives me extra knowledge for my free talk classes with my students.
This was very sad - may they rest in peace. I'm frightened to fly, and gaining a greater understanding of how things go wrong via your videos has really helped me with that; as has hearing about the many situations where skilled pilots and crew manage to land safely despite facing serious challenges. Thank you.
I never thought that I would watch the entire 52 minute long video, but I did. The presentation and the narrative were amazingly done! Hats off to you!
Same here
What !!!!! Was that 52 mins ? Until reading this comment I did not realize that..
Amazing work again!
The intro of this video was quite intense and i like it. I heard about the FlyDubai 981 accident from a well known aviation documentary show a year ago. After watching this video, it really reminding me and understand how powerful spatial disorientation can be in aviation because it is one of the most common factor on some aviation accidents. Yes, I know somatogravic illusion a year ago from your Armavia Flight 967 video. I think this video is also one of my favorite now and i love it.
Thank you! I’m so happy that you found it helpful, that’s the whole purpose of the show. 💕
Hi Petter. Another nightmare and well presented; thank you for your insight; this made me feel as if I were in that doomed cockpit... cold sweat, fear and anguish. Pilots should be very aware of their limitations and vulnerabilities... we are all human. Maybe? Years ago I was a 1st Officer in a multi engine aircraft on an ILS approach into a Norwegian airfield with a higher than normal approach angle between mountainous terrain. Due to a manning issue I was standing in as 1st Officer on an Outfit I had not flown with and therefore, my albeit experienced Captain, was an unknown to me, as I was to him. At that time I usually operated on a small flight with a few fellow aviators and we all knew each other well. The Captain initiated the approach after a professional briefing and we captured the localiser and shortly after that, the glideslope. And then it started to go horribly wrong.... an unstabilised approach is probably an understatement. I had to forcibly order the Captain to hand over the controls to me despite being his First Officer. I am happy to say he did so and we landed safely. In the hotel that night he came to me in private and said one of the most honest things any pilot could ever say to another pilot... "dik, I was maxed out, I was behind the aircraft and I was over controlling, thank you for your timely intervention and airmanship." So we had a few beers and swung the lampshade into the early hours.... as we had a 36 hour stopover we were well within our crew duty requirements which was a bonus. All First Officers out there... when the sh*t hits the fan be prepared to SPEAK OUT and, irrespective of your perceived CRM, TAKE CONTROL... FLY the aircraft and get home safe The ground has a PKILL of 1 in the wrong approach configuration.
Thank you for sharing this extraordinary experience with us. And really, it's an important advice to all 1st officers out there!
I'm glad to hear the captain relinquished control at your command, It is my feeling that any FO who firmly insists on taking control should snap a captain out of his stupor and cause him to go hands off and comply. I was shaking my head over this poor FO, it is too bad when he attempted to do so the captain was countering his attempt to right the aircraft. I think an FO or captain should be able to lock out the other when one of them is disoriented and behind the airplane. This one is quite sad.
All blessings to those lost souls. To all pilots out there... try to have a positive thoughts and follow it with positive actions.. if your not having those positive thoughts and you have a fellow pilot with you... give him control. @@VHL240
Interesting thought... we used to have command ejection would could punch out your backseater. Not sure if I would have liked it the other way round? This idea should be explored though and would most certainly be valuable if your other pilot slumped over the controls due to incapacitation. Worth looking in to. This is a sad example of the worst outcome of disorientation whilst flying... there, for any grace, we never go. @@GusMac-kv7zi
Such a good channel, being a non aviator I've learnt so much and gathered a real appreciation for the complexity involved with commercial pilots work load.
My father was a fighter pilot who also owned a share in a single prop aeroplane, which I had the opportunity to watch my father fly. While sat in the co-pilots seat. This channel reminds me of the education my father started and now this channel is continuing. Unfortunately my health would never permit me a licence of my own but I congratulate this channel for how it communicates and explains .
Great video as always! Just one suggestion: I would really appreciate it if the final report and the recommendations would be discussed more thoroughly. That would help in understanding the issues that led to the accident and would also give a better feeling knowing what improvements were made.
Yeah, I sometimes feel the conclusion is over way too fast compared to previous productions!
Are they not published?
Agree
Very strong work here; please keep 'em coming. I admire what it takes to put this together. I was involved in the post-accident investigation (HUD team), and it was interesting to see this portrayal/explanation pop up. One thing for viewers to know is that the HUD symbology shown here is mostly pretty reasonably accurate for the situations being shown, but it is also occasionally completely inaccurate, particularly as regards energy state (via the acceleration cue or flight path marker positioning). So if you know roughly what that symbology should be doing, and you're trying to correlate it to the scenario, that'll be impossible to do sometimes. All of the various HUD simulations out there get it wrong often, which isn't surprising. They don't have the actual source code or detailed display logic.
so... the "acceleration cue" & flight path marker shown here are displayed in a different manner than in actuality?
@@Kveldred Yes, in various scenarios (not really interested in rewatching them all to identify them), and particularly for the acceleration cue. That acceleration cue is a pretty dynamic symbol, moving up or down in response to dynamic forces, and it serves as a predictor of what's about to happen to the aircraft. The modeling/simulation of those physics is almost never done correctly in simulations as depicted here.
Your delivery, explanation and graphics are impeccable. I’m sure as a pilot you have many feelings and empathy for the lost crew. As long as humans fly planes they’ll always be the possibility of an accident happening. I think pilots work is very under appreciated.
Possibly your best video yet. Very professional, amazing graphics. Well done. So alarming that only a few seconds of disorientation can be so catastrophic.
This episode just moved to no 1 in my list. I got goosebumps. Congratulations for an amazing production!
Iv been following since the beginning, and recently started flight school. What went from neat videos to feed my aviation interests, turned into something that Teaches me, and kind of goes along with my flight training. I have been recommending your videos to CFIs and fellow students. I feel like your videos have helped me substantially during my commercial pilot training, in understanding systems, as well as making me think more about little thing that can have a huge affect on a safe flight. Your videos Have definitely made me a safer Pilot, and give me a lot more confidence when i finally make it to the airlines, knowing that most of these incidents are Pilot error. In your last video i heard you say when you get a “Line up and wait” to stay just off center line, and it makes so much sense, i will start doing that. Thanks for all of the videos i definitely need to buy some Mentour Pilot Gear.
There is a lot of flying accidents analyzed on the internet/TH-cam but your analysis is the best of all, by a very wide margin to the rest.
A note: The trim system is designed to prevent a stall on the control surfaces of the elevator, causing the elevator to react unpredictably. Therefore, you must do exactly what you notice: Track the trim to the elevator.
Awesome video, what a crazy story!
Great how @WonderDocs gives a thumbs up to @MentourPilot !! ❤❤
for real!
Wow whaaat! Wonder maybe collab with Mentour Pilot?
Extraordinary co-pilot isn't capable of saving his own life
@@jamesharris184 the culture of too much respect towards a superior!
It is truly awful to hear the escalation of things going wrong in the final seconds. When you said their vertical speed was 18,000 feet per minute, I couldn't believe that was right. Thank you for all your coverage helping so many people understand the factors that lead to terrible accidents like these.
Another fantastic explanation about an accident we all should be curious to understand what happened… Congrats Captain Petter!
Video after video, what an endless chain of masterworks. I imagine almost every pilot in the world trying to get the most from these lessons. And still...the next unexpected scenario is waiting for all of them. What a hell of a job, you guys deserve every penny you earn.
A highly professional approach to narration and research methodology.
After watching his videos, we can safely say that we are his students of aviation studies.
Well done Sir.
As a race driver, the closest thing that happens to us is instantly losing all grip in a 130mph bend learning too late your engine was puking oil onto your tires, but we’re not @ 35k feet…
Fun fact: Depending on the race governing body and class, your car very probably can go faster than the free fall velocity of a human that has their arms and legs spread.
@@littlegrabbiZZ9PZA A human’s terminal velocity is only 120mph + obviously far less when you’re spread out. So, yeah, basically any race series is beating free fall velocity.
I feel the same way riding, high-performance motorcycles. Generally if something goes wrong, it’s not gonna end well.
@@postersm7141For you, yes. Unless you’re on a track + have the new gen of suit w/airbags which make severe injury unlikely, crashing is pretty unforgiving. For race cars, we’re nigh on invulnerable with modern safety gear. Other than open wheel circle track racing, I laugh at all the people who think modern drivers are like gladiators taking major risks. No, those days were mostly over by the 1990s and are completely gone now.
@@The_ZeroLineThere have been 7 motorsports deaths this year, of which only one was open-wheel, and it was not on a circle track.
Wow, you have to feel sorry for the first officer - did pretty much everything right. Shows just how quickly things can go from routine to unrecoverable.
Spatial disorientation can happen to anyone but it's surprising that it happened in such a modern airliner with so much extra instrumentation and a HUD, which you would have thought would have provided some visual references. I have to say I agree that being 4am had alot to do with this especially after being essentially bored for 2 hours and then suddenly being asked to perform (again) a high stress rarely practised manouvere.
RIP to all involved.
I dunno...I feel like it was confusion on the part if the FO that started everything in motion. It seems like everything was ok until he called out flaps at the beginning of the second go-around which confused the pilot. The pilot specifically said if they needed to abort the second landing attempt they'd do the exact same thing they did last time which was a wind sheer maneuver, not a standard go around. The whole thing is absolutely terrifying though. Such a simple mistake can end in such horrific tragedy.
I think the HUD actually harmed both pilots' situational awareness since the UI of the normal controls and the HUD are substantially different, and on top of that the first officer probably felt it best to rely on the captain's HUD since there's an assumption that it would allow him to fly better in a tough situation than the first officer could.
In any case, more tech does not equal better results. My guess is that the UAE had excess cash that it threw in flyDubai's direction to buy new toys and that they weren't really thinking of what practical benefit/impact it could have. When half of your takeoffs and landings will be at airports which seldom see a single drop of rain, there's no point to an HUD that would supposedly help in bad weather.
@@OGA103 I don't really agree with this, there was no windshear alert which makes one wonder why there wasn't considering the sudden gust of wind during the approach, on top of that the captain previously did say "windshear, go around" and had discussed that specifically on a windshear they'd commit to the same procedures, yet when the situation occurred, there was no windshear alert and he plainly just mentioned 'ok go around' which in most cases implies to a standard go around procedure, I wouldn't say the FO started this in motion but the captain did. The captain should have immediately known there was a miscommunication when the FO asked him about turning the flaps to 15, which you don't do during a windshear maneuvre, let alone retracting the landing gear.
First Officer. you are the pride of airline , RIP to all people in the plane ... hope in the future we can prevent anything bad ever happen again ...
Makes you wish there was an emergency button that maintained pitch at horizon and constant speed. That poor FO knew what needed to be done, and your explanation really shows how easy it is to make mistakes. I still remember my MSFS trim settings being opposite of what I thought they should be and freaked out when my trim settings put me in a dive and I continued adding more trim to compensate, but as it was the opposite of what I thought the trim settings should be I just nose dived straight into the ground. Disorientation sure does suck.
sounds like the experience of the co-pilot of AF-447
TH-cam just recommended me your channel since I love documenaries about different incidents and I'm really impressed by the quality of your video! Clear narration, great info presentation, very comprehensible. Thank you, I definitely going to watch all other your videos now
Good stuff