Satoru Gojo vs. The Sternritter Part 1

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  • @justinpachi3707
    @justinpachi3707 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    With how Gojo died because of Sukuna cutting the space where Gojo was, its pretty clear Lille could actually kill him for sure. Lille's X-Axis is a form of time-space manipulation with how he uniformly creates a hole between hims gun and his target. His limitless would actually be a problem for a lot of the other Sternritters, but for those with more conceptual abilities like the Balance which controls fortune, they have the best shot at defeating him.

    • @2centswanted113
      @2centswanted113  ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Ya, pretty much. There are a couple "low tier" Sternritter who have a shot, but that's for part 2

    • @HOLDENPOPE
      @HOLDENPOPE 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Lille is pretty much the perfect counter to Gojo. It doesn't matter how much distance there is because the X-Axis doesn't involve a projectile, the moment the trigger is pulled, there is now a hole in him, instantly. And that's ignoring Lille's Vollstandig transformations.

    • @God_Koku
      @God_Koku 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@HOLDENPOPE Gerard is also another good counter to Gojo

    • @HOLDENPOPE
      @HOLDENPOPE 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Only with Hoffnung, really. The Miracle's a mostly defensive power, so while Gerard could probably get through Limitless just by shouting that it'd be a miracle if he did, and passively survive Unlimited Void (Don't know whether or not he could survive Purple since destroying his Cross does kill him), Gojo breaking Hoffnung and accidentially getting his entire body destroyed from the damage reflection is the significantly more likely option. And let's be real, it's also the easiest one for someone to accept since Gerard's a very NLF-ey character.@@God_Koku

  • @AtenSol12
    @AtenSol12 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Sir, that is precisely why i remember Shaz Domino 😂😂😂
    It was a real “a new challenger has appeared!” Moment for Shaz. Then he got folded in the blink of an eye. I love when Ichigo makes an entrance

  • @NEONlights-lb8um
    @NEONlights-lb8um 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    The problem is, characters like Pernida actually can adapt and evolve to opponents abilities. And if mahorarga could, Pernida who scales above mahorarga can as well. Plus a domain would be pretty much useless against Pernida considering that he might not even have a brain for the infinity info dump to affect.

    • @2centswanted113
      @2centswanted113  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      The adaptation ability of Mahoraga and Pernida are not the same. Pernida can only adapt through assimilation while Magora adaptation through experience. Pernida can only adapt through physical contact with Flesh while Magora can adapt whether it lands an attack or is hit by an attack.

    • @NEONlights-lb8um
      @NEONlights-lb8um 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@2centswanted113 interesting 🤔 that's true. I don't think that's all of pernida's abilities though.

    • @2centswanted113
      @2centswanted113  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@NEONlights-lb8um Pernida has the growth ability we just discussed and all abilities granted to it by being a Quincy. Those are the only abilities it has, Kubo could add stuff in the anime but that's it for now

    • @AntiZubat
      @AntiZubat 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@2centswanted113if Candice can bypass it somehow I’d say Pernida will find a way and how will he even kill it. Only way is a hollow purple and I doubt he’d be able to erase all of Pernida and make sure Pernida didn’t leave any nerves or such around. It’s a bit of stretch to say his nerves could manipulate infinity but they could manipulate the battlefield, which is important because it was stated to be made of strange reishi or something like that

    • @2centswanted113
      @2centswanted113  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@AntiZubat Infinity is not a shield. The nerves occupy space they'd never reach Satoru as they would slow down. Candice lightning also would get stopped by limitless. Gojo can hit people H2H and still maintain his limitless defense

  • @RandomGuy-ci9nt
    @RandomGuy-ci9nt ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Also wasn't Sklavarei breaking apart Orihime and Chad?
    I mean if Pernida touches?

  • @pacmiller7564
    @pacmiller7564 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Using verse equalization only shows how screwed a character really is

    • @2centswanted113
      @2centswanted113  ปีที่แล้ว +9

      It's mainly to get around "Neg" arguments as Bleach has soul hax abilities that MOST series don't. It wouldn't be entertaining otherwise.
      As far as stats go, the only real issue for Gojo is the speed difference. Gojo usually nullifies speed advantages with his Limitless, but his domain weakness of touching creates a Kenny vs Tosen scenario that any character could take advantage of. But ya your right Gojo would be screwed.

  • @FanisBartzis
    @FanisBartzis 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Quilge can seal gojo and give him the shibuya treatment if he pulls from behind

    • @2centswanted113
      @2centswanted113  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Gojo can teleport

    • @FanisBartzis
      @FanisBartzis 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@2centswanted113 i know that but what if he gets jumped from behind,in a scenario when he is in distress

  • @carlithium7827
    @carlithium7827 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    To me only the high tiers sterns have them big nasty hax that are just absurd. Gojo with equalize stats could do sumthin probably to most of them except the shitstaffel

  • @Bastolan
    @Bastolan ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What happened to part 2

    • @2centswanted113
      @2centswanted113  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I've run into quite a bit of personal and technical issues. Currently on delay. My apologies

  • @Bastolan
    @Bastolan ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Would the balance count infinity as fortune and negate it?

    • @2centswanted113
      @2centswanted113  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Based on the description and application of the ability, yes. The Infinity defense allowing Gojo to remain safe or dodgenwould be fortuitous. And with the Freundshild, Jugram can increase it.

  • @KeepRockingTheDragon
    @KeepRockingTheDragon 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    this is a very interesting video, also i believe gojo's hax would get him through most of bleach, now in terms of raw power i believe someone like say candice would smoke gojo no problem but his abilities alone would make up for that.

    • @2centswanted113
      @2centswanted113  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      When you equalize stats and the curse Reiatsu systems, yes Gojo presents a lot of issues for the verse.
      But that's the fun of it, abilities versus abilities. However there are characters who have fun counters like Rose, Ichibei, Quincy in general, Lille, Yhwach, on and on

    • @AntiZubat
      @AntiZubat 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I’d say As Nodt fear could solo. Infinity can’t block fear

    • @2centswanted113
      @2centswanted113  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@AntiZubat you can block the fear. Also Gojos defense isn't a conventional shield. Even in Volstandig Gojo has multiple counters to The Fear. Gojo can destroy and rejuvenate his brain, he's running RCT on his brain constantly already, and he does physically need to see As Nodt because of six eyes.

  • @PuddleOfCats
    @PuddleOfCats ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I know you said Giselle had nearly no chance to win and I agree but I think if Giselle can force gojo to get into h2h combat and gojo doesn't know of her ability he would just, ignore her blood getting onto him as we've seen multiple times and get zombified accidentally especially if she knows of his abilities and tries to stay in vollstandig summoning the boney boys, he could think "oh, thats her only ability lemme get closer and punch her" and get zombified, sure, it'd take a while but I don't think giselle is going down to anything under a hollow purple just, due to her ability, I mean hell she survived yhwach
    She's good at manipulating people in general so if she knows and he doesn't? its not impossible to bring her wins closer to like, 2/10 or 3/10

    • @2centswanted113
      @2centswanted113  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I would agree but 3:17 kind of shoots this down. Even Satoru Gojo whe engaged in h2h combat when beating down on Jogo, his inviolablility is still active. It stops Jogos blood spray. How would Giselle get his inviolablility down?

    • @PuddleOfCats
      @PuddleOfCats ปีที่แล้ว

      @@2centswanted113 Honestly I forgot about that completely but if I want to make the argument I'll make the in character argument of "Jogo's literally a lava dude, wouldn't be too hard to presume the cursed energy in his blood and body is literally just, lava" so to make the assumption he normally ignores blood but just turned it on for jogo
      Though, leading into that he'd likely see that while yes, her blood has reshi that its strange and to avoid it, maybe if she kept coming back from death and using her vollstandig he could be lead to presume its just an immortality kinda deal like "oh her power is, like, necromancy so she can revive herself" but thats a stretch
      potentially she could avoid his hollow purples enough to make him HAVE to use his domain as a win con

    • @2centswanted113
      @2centswanted113  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @PuddleOfCats even if we grant that, she'd have to dodge Purple and max blue (or multiple max blues) in order to survive which isnt likely. And Gojos Six eyes would definitely inform him of her powers as Gojo has intimately seen through deceptive techniques before.
      I admit Giselles zombie body could definitely withstand a hit from Gojo inside a domain and let her use Volstandig to pull a win off. But it takes too many assumptions to get there. And even still Giselle in base, her physical stats are really bad

    • @Bastolan
      @Bastolan ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​​​@@2centswanted113idk what speed scale u use for blea😮ch. But there are many feats that put the sternritter at light speed like lilttoto dodging the auswalen. And even espada #9 dodging sunlight.

    • @2centswanted113
      @2centswanted113  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Bastolan Bleach is MFTL like I stated in the video. Dodging Bala which move 20x faster than a Cero which is described as spiritual light. This is arrancar. And Aushwalen moves faster than light, even Death battle, who downplays Bleach got that right. So ya multiple ways to scale Bleach speed

  • @manuelacosta9463
    @manuelacosta9463 ปีที่แล้ว

    Gojo would definitely pull a win here, and the Sternritters would likely kill each other out of petty ego more than anything before that.

    • @2centswanted113
      @2centswanted113  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Interesting. You don't think any of the Sternritter have a chance?

    • @manuelacosta9463
      @manuelacosta9463 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@2centswanted113 Some do but again as we saw, more Quincies died at the hands of other Quincies.

    • @pacmiller7564
      @pacmiller7564 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      The Elite don't squabble amongst themselves during battle.

    • @Wiseking-Thefirst
      @Wiseking-Thefirst หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@manuelacosta9463what? What? The Quincy’s are NOT the espadas 🤦🏾‍♂️. The quinces will fight as a time just like they did in the manga.

  • @hobbyhorse5848
    @hobbyhorse5848 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    X Axis kills him, Deathdealing possibly can, As Nodt The Fear very possibly can but that’s very debatable as I think Infinite Void beats As Nodt, Kirge could trap him, Uryu is definitely gonna beat Gojo’s ass since he’s definitely gonna save the elite guard from Senjumaru’s bankai in Cour 3. Gremmy…theoretically the Visionary can win, but Gremmy is an idiot.

    • @2centswanted113
      @2centswanted113  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Quilge doesn't present real problem for Satoru as Satoru can teleport. And we could argue the jail even prevents that but Gojo still has Purple and Remote purple that would destroy the cage and everything around it. That's why I included Quilge in this video and not the next one.

    • @RandomGuy-ci9nt
      @RandomGuy-ci9nt ปีที่แล้ว

      Gremmy lost because he wanted to Beat(crush as he says) Kenpachi

  • @thorshammer7883
    @thorshammer7883 ปีที่แล้ว

    Gojo likely doesn't even have the attack potency to effectively damage the Bleach cast.

    • @2centswanted113
      @2centswanted113  ปีที่แล้ว

      He can damage lower characters based on guessetimates. If Gojo is Planetary truly in his CE, then that would put him in TYBW range in Cursed energy to Spiritual Energy conversion. As most of the Espada were in that Mulitcontinental range. Plus Purple is durability negation like Lille's x-axis. Gojo would just lose in every other stat

    • @thorshammer7883
      @thorshammer7883 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@2centswanted113
      He doesn't show anything that even supports him being planetary tier though. And what does CE stand for? I do not know that term.

    • @2centswanted113
      @2centswanted113  ปีที่แล้ว

      @thorshammer7883 CE is cursed energy. That's why i said "guesstimate" and "if" and i explained in the video. It's solely based on statements. Gojo is stated to be able to wipe out humanity. Special grades are given to those who can destroy nations and Gojo can take on more at least 3 without exerting much effort. Then there's his existence shifting the strength of the world's cursed energy upon his birth. But they are vague statement but nothing concrete

    • @thorshammer7883
      @thorshammer7883 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@2centswanted113
      That doesn't equal planetary tier. I seen real actual small country busters be called world enders before in fiction like main antagonist from Hero's Return Korean manwa.

    • @KeepRockingTheDragon
      @KeepRockingTheDragon 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      i agree but honestly that does depend on the character, i think gojo's abilities alone carry him.

  • @cjcj4861
    @cjcj4861 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Damn this is a good video two cents nice one I'm on both sides I'm not showing any bias

    • @2centswanted113
      @2centswanted113  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I appreciate the loyalty 🙏🏽

    • @cjcj4861
      @cjcj4861 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@2centswanted113 no problem man I was watching your other videos a couple months ago and keep up the good content with the Bleach videos and the verses matches I'm on both sides I think Gojo would take out some Quincy but I can't wait for part 2 I think it's going to be tougher cuz I just finished bleached a thousand year blood War part 2 I hope they going to make more episodes in part 3 and part 4 so the series won't end quickly

  • @thorshammer7883
    @thorshammer7883 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Personally Gojo's speed isn't really that impressive when compared to other verses. He's at best has large hypersonic perception and reaction timers. And his Infinity isn't a absolute defense it has weakenesses and limitations of it's own. Sukuna and others have made counter measures to Infinity before. And Infinity affects the atomic level. Meaning if someone can effect space on a even smaller level can probably get pass Infinity. And if you are massively faster then light you might be capable of negating what Infinity's parameters reach their limits to block.
    And the Bleach world may have many faster then light characters who can probably get pass that defense.

    • @2centswanted113
      @2centswanted113  ปีที่แล้ว

      The only impressive speed Gojo has is his teleportation, within the context of animanga.
      However, moving at the speed of light will not bypass Gojos infinity. Just because a character can move at light speed doesn't mean they carry no mass like a photon. Therefore, an opponent composed of atoms is still subject to infinity and even MFTL is still subject to infinite space it must travel through. The only speed that can do it is characters who can surpass infinite speed.

    • @thorshammer7883
      @thorshammer7883 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@2centswanted113
      What about the momentum of the force a character moving at faster then light speeds would be producing? Wouldn't that alone be affecting space on a level smaller then the atomic level thus be able to bypass Infinity? Especially if said attack's type of energy does indeed affect things smaller then only atoms.

    • @2centswanted113
      @2centswanted113  ปีที่แล้ว

      @thorshammer7883 Nah. Plenty of characters in fiction have MFTL movement without distorting space at all. Just look at Bleach characters. It's just a byproduct of being a fantasy. Violating physics without destroying them. What's scarier is Gojos Limitless defense even redirects energy and motion itself. When Gojo fought Jogo, the transfer of energy that slammed into Gojo from the bugs went around him

    • @thorshammer7883
      @thorshammer7883 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@2centswanted113
      I doubt Gojo's limitless extends that far. It's been met with counter defenses within it's own verse and the fact that it can be negated and adapted shows that Limitless's defenses are not absolute but hold a capacity of what it can truly handle.
      Within it's own verse it's a very good defense. However put in most situations against higher tier verses either they are based on massive power or haxs Limitless losses it's special treatment.
      And the atomic level is where it's weaknesses physically are most exposed.

    • @2centswanted113
      @2centswanted113  ปีที่แล้ว

      @thorshammer7883 The counters your referring are specific to the verse like Domain expansion, Domain amplification. Cutting space yes is a counter but I stated it's not perfect. Just mftl speed alone isn't a counter

  • @ecomog4735
    @ecomog4735 ปีที่แล้ว

    i dont even think this is a hot take but pernida does not lose to gojo esp with the insanly busted regeneration and the compulsory

    • @2centswanted113
      @2centswanted113  ปีที่แล้ว

      Idk about hot take, but Pernida has no win cond. Pernida can die and his nerves would never touch Gojo, so he can't evolve. A Max blue or Hollow Purple can kill him.

    • @RandomGuy-ci9nt
      @RandomGuy-ci9nt ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@2centswanted113
      What if Gojo Touches Pernida in a situation?

    • @2centswanted113
      @2centswanted113  ปีที่แล้ว

      @RandomGuy-ci9nt 3 responses.
      1)Satoru is not an initiator in character. He would wait for Pernida to make a move first, and Pernida has been seen willing to initiate. The only way Pernida would wait is if he knew he couldn't touch Gojo, which he wouldn't. The moment Pernida does use it, six eyes would read it and Gojo would never touch Pernida.
      2) if Pernida does absorb a hit landed by Gojos arm or leg that's fine. He'll only get Gojos physicals and energy. Satorus innate technique is located in Gojos Brain, in order to get it he'd have to eat Gojos brain and if Pernida wanted to get six eyes he'd have to eat Gojos eyes. We see Pernida only gets what he absorbs, when he didn't absorb the regulating part of Nemus's brain, his regen ran rampant and killed him.
      3)Pernidas base state is pretty weak. It relies on devouring to get strong, which Satoru could avoid and easily destroy in kind. Even if we give Pernida abilities he gained from his fight with Mayuri and Nemu, he won't be able to touch Satoru and a remote Hollow Purple or a Max purple, would 1 shot Pernida and any extras he made.

    • @RandomGuy-ci9nt
      @RandomGuy-ci9nt ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@2centswanted113
      Would initiation matter If the fight or general contact still has to happen?
      If Pernida is the initiator wouldn't Pernida notice infinity Faster especially if he uses bows first.
      Heck what if a jogo situation played out?
      It's possible in a scenario.
      Pernida also seems to have this non contact version of compulsatory like he did against the giants Soul king guard and the body double of senjumaru even against hikifune.
      Is compulsatory quick and powerful enough to affect enough to kill Gojo.
      Like if If he does get if off in on of the scenarios he would he understand Gojo's abilities at least?
      Strength won't play much of a factor here if he does.
      Also wouldn't He be faster than Gojo?
      And how does Pernidas evolution play into this?
      And his separation ability with them being miniature Pernida
      Wouldn't Gojo have to completely destroy or enough that he can't regenerate from Pernida to kill him due to Pernidas Regeneration?
      Cause Pernida is kidna big for Hollow purple isn't he?
      Wasn't Max Hollow purple due to outside factors?
      Does Remote Hollow purple hurt Gojo to?
      Or am I crazy.
      If it does wouldn't Pernida Equal stats and evolution make him tank that?
      How would Unlimited void work since Pernida is more like a Cursed Spirit or at least is wired or structured like a human especially being part of the Soul king?
      isn't the compulsatory something that Pernida pre Ywach and could possibly be connected to him being part of the Soul King.
      And if that was the case would Gojo be able to comprehend that?
      And would you say Pernida or his separate parts can use Sklavarei?

    • @2centswanted113
      @2centswanted113  ปีที่แล้ว

      @RandomGuy-ci9nt my 3 responses covered these questions. Pernida doesn't have the abikity to bypass his infinity with his nerves, no regen ability, and eating Gojo doesn't help Pernida unless it's all of Gojo