Hey Rosh, big thanks for this! It's just what I needed this morning to wrap my head around DynaCabs. You covered all the basics and threw in some essential tweaks without sending me down the Fractal rabbit hole any deeper than I already am. The edit is spot-on-straight to the point, no unnecessary babble. On the presentation side, it would've been cool to see your face at the start and end, but hey, content-wise, you nailed it! #1 in my book.
As to your comment at 15:55... That is, because they actually recorded all the positions using a little robot and the actual microphone with that particular cab (I think I heard it on g66's channel in one video). Okay, maybe not all the positions but thousand of them. So dyna-cabs is essentially a convinient IR picker out of those thousands. And I agree, they did a really good job with this.
Rosh my brother always coming with the highest quality and thorough tutorials. Super appreciate you and hope I may reach some level of greatness like yourself one day. To afford to live in California would be quite the feat-and to do it in the music industry?! Whew.. The dream..
Thanks Rosh. The effort that goes into these videos is immeasurable and they are a true gem. One question that pops up to mind concerning tone adjustment: Should we start adjusting the amp parameters and then tweaking the sound with mic placement, vice versa, or going back and forth between the two?
You can do it in either order, but my thoughts are this: The final stage in tone shaping has the most impact. In this case, it's the cabinet with the mic placement. Imagine putting an EQ block after the cabinet and you'll see why the last thing in a signal chain has the most impact. So, in general I always go from right to left / reverse when tone shaping. Also, depending on the amp type, the Bass/Mid/Treble knobs can affect the feel of the amp without shaping the EQ very much. Try a marshall plexi with the bass cranked up vs around three and you'll see it doesn't add much bass, but definitely becomes more saggy/loose vs tight and controlled. Mesa Boogie Mark amps are like this as well. A lot of players put the bass knobs at zero or 1 and then add the "bass" back in, in the graphic EQ
Thanks Rosh great Video, I've been using the helix since 2015. i was thinking about getting on the waiting list. for the fm3 or fm9. I'm older and still gigging 2 to 3 times a week here in south Texas I've never used the modeling on the helix just effect to amp. since i Mainly play at restaurants Bars it may be time to run straight to PA and Monitor.
Hi Ross Hi and Low cut - Cab page vs Preamp page? On manual it says: Cab page: Low-Cut/Low Slope, Hi-Cut/High Slope - These adjusts the high-pass and low-pass filters on the individual IRs. Preamp page: Low Cut, Low Cut Slope, High Cut, High Cut Slope - These “Master” filters for the cab block I still don't exactly understand the differences between the two. I found that people usually prefer to cut on the preamp page and I don't understand why. I feel there is a difference beetwen the two methods, but I can´t explain or really understand it. Why should I use one or the other? Thank you
The slopes are just how "steep" each cutoff point is and you can adjust between each cabinet in the cab block. This gives extra tweakability and functionality as opposed to the preamp which just does the slopes/cuts to both block simultaneously.
In the old way you could set the mic to None. Is it possible in this dyna cab system? (I suppose at cap it would be like a neutral, super bright & boomy version of the cab, but still let you use the mic frequency principle to adjust from there - I would often use no mic on my presets at first, and then add a mic later if needed.)
I'm not sure what this would accomplish, because even the human ear doesn't hear the entire frequency spectrum of a cabinet. Nobody puts their ear up to a cabinet. We're usually listening to a cabinet off axis pointing at our knees. If you want a more "full-range" sound I suppose you can ignore the low and hi-cuts and use the condenser mic and place it somewhere. As always, experimenting can lead to the results you're looking for.
I don't understand why the reverb is parallel to the signal as you can achieve the same result putting it in series and adjusting the mix level of the reverb block.
Because you can have reverb run independently of other time based effects. I don't want my delay trails to have reverb and vice versa. User choice, and if you like running effects in series, that's totally fine.
I normally have a flashlight looking at the front of the speaker to see where to place it. Having the side view makes no sense to me? Should have options to place on the cone, in-between the cone and on the edge. Why would they have the side view out of all the options?
This allows you to also adjust the Mic distance from the speaker, (X-axis) rather than just the distance between the cap and cone (Y axis). If you had a front facing view, how would you be able to visually gauge the distance between the mic and speaker? The distance between the microphone to add or subtract the proximity effect is a big part of guitar tone, not just what the microphone is pointing at in reference to the cone, in between or the edge.
Thanks for all your videos Rosh. I have implemented your preset building strategies with great success. Question: I run my FM3 into the front end of a Quilter Tone Block 202 set to FRFR mode with a Celestion Copperback 1 x 12 cab. I use amp and cab modelling "ON." At gigs I usually mic the cab. Believe it or not this works. What thoughts do you have about using / dialing in the Dyna Cabs with this set up? Thank you.
I think if micing the cab, even in FRFR mode gets you the sound you want, that's totally ok. I think you'd save yourself a little bit of setup time by just going direct and from another output (with dyna cabs) and having the quilter just for your stage volume.
@@RoshRoslin Thanks for the reply. I've tried Output 1 to FOH with Output 2 to the amp/cab and it works well -- however, I then lose easy control over my FOH volume. Unfortunately, I can't always rely on the sound person to babysit the levels ...
I've watched your entire FM3 series and it's great!
Thank you for the time and effort put into this.
Thanks for watching!
Hey Rosh, big thanks for this! It's just what I needed this morning to wrap my head around DynaCabs. You covered all the basics and threw in some essential tweaks without sending me down the Fractal rabbit hole any deeper than I already am. The edit is spot-on-straight to the point, no unnecessary babble. On the presentation side, it would've been cool to see your face at the start and end, but hey, content-wise, you nailed it! #1 in my book.
Thanks!
Excellent Josh…excellent. Great great info 💯
As to your comment at 15:55... That is, because they actually recorded all the positions using a little robot and the actual microphone with that particular cab (I think I heard it on g66's channel in one video). Okay, maybe not all the positions but thousand of them. So dyna-cabs is essentially a convinient IR picker out of those thousands. And I agree, they did a really good job with this.
Rosh my brother always coming with the highest quality and thorough tutorials. Super appreciate you and hope I may reach some level of greatness like yourself one day. To afford to live in California would be quite the feat-and to do it in the music industry?! Whew.. The dream..
Thank you so much, much appreciated
Thanks Rosh. The effort that goes into these videos is immeasurable and they are a true gem. One question that pops up to mind concerning tone adjustment:
Should we start adjusting the amp parameters and then tweaking the sound with mic placement, vice versa, or going back and forth between the two?
You can do it in either order, but my thoughts are this: The final stage in tone shaping has the most impact. In this case, it's the cabinet with the mic placement. Imagine putting an EQ block after the cabinet and you'll see why the last thing in a signal chain has the most impact. So, in general I always go from right to left / reverse when tone shaping.
Also, depending on the amp type, the Bass/Mid/Treble knobs can affect the feel of the amp without shaping the EQ very much. Try a marshall plexi with the bass cranked up vs around three and you'll see it doesn't add much bass, but definitely becomes more saggy/loose vs tight and controlled. Mesa Boogie Mark amps are like this as well. A lot of players put the bass knobs at zero or 1 and then add the "bass" back in, in the graphic EQ
@@RoshRoslin thanks a lot 🙏
Thank you Rosh 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
You're welcome!
A looper, with a played in loop, in front of the amp is very helpful to find the sweet spot of the sound by changing the position of the Microfon .
Yes, great idea.
Great overview, thank you!
Glad it was helpful!
Thanks Rosh great Video, I've been using the helix since 2015. i was thinking about getting on the waiting list. for the fm3 or fm9. I'm older and still gigging 2 to 3 times a week here in south Texas I've never used the modeling on the helix just effect to amp. since i Mainly play at restaurants Bars it may be time to run straight to PA and Monitor.
Either will be a great choice just depends on how many buttons you'll need
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Any time!
Nice job (again!) 👍🏼
Thanks again!
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Hi Ross
Hi and Low cut - Cab page vs Preamp page?
On manual it says:
Cab page: Low-Cut/Low Slope, Hi-Cut/High Slope - These adjusts the high-pass and low-pass filters on the individual IRs.
Preamp page: Low Cut, Low Cut Slope, High Cut, High Cut Slope - These “Master” filters for the cab block
I still don't exactly understand the differences between the two. I found that people usually prefer to cut on the preamp page and I don't understand why. I feel there is a difference beetwen the two methods, but I can´t explain or really understand it. Why should I use one or the other? Thank you
The slopes are just how "steep" each cutoff point is and you can adjust between each cabinet in the cab block. This gives extra tweakability and functionality as opposed to the preamp which just does the slopes/cuts to both block simultaneously.
Excellent…Thanks!!
You're welcome
Great video!!!!👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
Thanks!
In the old way you could set the mic to None. Is it possible in this dyna cab system? (I suppose at cap it would be like a neutral, super bright & boomy version of the cab, but still let you use the mic frequency principle to adjust from there - I would often use no mic on my presets at first, and then add a mic later if needed.)
I'm not sure what this would accomplish, because even the human ear doesn't hear the entire frequency spectrum of a cabinet. Nobody puts their ear up to a cabinet. We're usually listening to a cabinet off axis pointing at our knees. If you want a more "full-range" sound I suppose you can ignore the low and hi-cuts and use the condenser mic and place it somewhere.
As always, experimenting can lead to the results you're looking for.
I don't understand why the reverb is parallel to the signal as you can achieve the same result putting it in series and adjusting the mix level of the reverb block.
Because you can have reverb run independently of other time based effects. I don't want my delay trails to have reverb and vice versa.
User choice, and if you like running effects in series, that's totally fine.
Hiya Rosh, wondering why I don't see Type under Channel ABCD, is that weird, I think so? Any assistance would be awesome please ; }
You need to correctly install the firmware, dyna cab data and then hit refresh after fw in the settings menu in fm3 edit
I normally have a flashlight looking at the front of the speaker to see where to place it. Having the side view makes no sense to me? Should have options to place on the cone, in-between the cone and on the edge. Why would they have the side view out of all the options?
This allows you to also adjust the Mic distance from the speaker, (X-axis) rather than just the distance between the cap and cone (Y axis).
If you had a front facing view, how would you be able to visually gauge the distance between the mic and speaker? The distance between the microphone to add or subtract the proximity effect is a big part of guitar tone, not just what the microphone is pointing at in reference to the cone, in between or the edge.
@@RoshRoslin Have a second view from the side for distance. One front facing for placement, one side view for distance.
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You're welcome!
Thanks for all your videos Rosh. I have implemented your preset building strategies with great success. Question: I run my FM3 into the front end of a Quilter Tone Block 202 set to FRFR mode with a Celestion Copperback 1 x 12 cab. I use amp and cab modelling "ON." At gigs I usually mic the cab. Believe it or not this works. What thoughts do you have about using / dialing in the Dyna Cabs with this set up? Thank you.
I think if micing the cab, even in FRFR mode gets you the sound you want, that's totally ok. I think you'd save yourself a little bit of setup time by just going direct and from another output (with dyna cabs) and having the quilter just for your stage volume.
@@RoshRoslin Thanks for the reply. I've tried Output 1 to FOH with Output 2 to the amp/cab and it works well -- however, I then lose easy control over my FOH volume. Unfortunately, I can't always rely on the sound person to babysit the levels ...
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