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- Hi guys,
In today's video i will be testing some fanduct designs for the tevo tornado 3d printer.
All the tests were done with the fans/blowers at 80% power and the same slicer profile was used for all the fanducts.
All of the fanducts tested had a temperature drop (when the cooling fan kicked in) of 5 degrees except for the single blower fang design
which had a drop of 7 degrees.
The system being 24v rapidly recovered and kept the temperature stable through all the print.
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I just installed the Petsfang on my Ender 3, using the stock fans.
The fang itself attaches now with M3 and nuts slide into it.
Seems to work okay.
If I didn't install this, I wouldn't have known Ender forgot to remove the two bolts used to align the hot end.
A common QC issue apparently.
Thanks for sharing, subscribed.
you should test lower layer heights as it has more issues with overhangs curling
Nice video! Exactly what I was looking for to evaluate which mod I want to do on my cr-10!
I printed the fang one for the U30, one of the fangs heated up a deformed down, a different dual blower one ATM but will take into account what you said about the fan could cool the nozzle.
By the way, AWESOME video! I really like how you laid it all out
one little advice if you modyfy a mirror to be your print bed it really helps with the visabilety under the fan duct
Hi, good idea :)
I was curious if you had to adjust the fan speed any with the stronger airflow. Years ago I upgraded my Ultimaker Original from a single 40 mm fan to dual 50mm on each side. I noticed prints had great overhangs only on the side the fan was on. Well the CFM of the new fans were so powerful that it was requiring more effort to keep the bed and nozzle to temp. As a result, I had to lower (in slicer) fan to 50% to equal what the old fan could do.
Hi,
Yes, depending on the fanduct and blower used, you might need to reduce the flow %. It's important to choose the best fanduct and blower so that you have the best performance from the blower and the right air orientations from the fanduct.
It's better to have more power and don't need it than need power and don't have.
In any case, you should always adjust the flow % according to the model you want to print. Some models require less flow % and others require more.
In your slicer, you can set the flow % by layers and this way you can have areas with less flow % and areas with more flow %.
good to know cuz I purchased blowers and wasnt sure which duct to do. thank you sir!
Thanks for the feedback David :)
Thanks for the review
Thanks for sharing😀👍
Nice to see the ideamaker slicer just for once 👍😀
Thank you for sharing your results and methodology. Great job!
Thank you so much for your feedback :)
As always an excellent explanation video, keep the good work !
Thanks :)
Amazing video quality! Keep up the great work!
Thanks Aaron ;)
Thanks for the great video!! Would love to see an installation video on this if possible. I know you show how to disconnect the old, but adding in the new is where the trickiness comes in (especially for those of us not blessed with an understanding of circuitry)
Hi David,
Thank you for your comment.
When you say "how to install" are you referring on how to place the fanducts or how to connect them electrically?
If you mean connect them electrically, then i can share that you just need to connect the new fan to the same port on the board as the stock one...or...just do like i did and cut the wire from the stock fan and connect the new one to the existing wires (red to red and black to black).
im going to be trying that once I finish the print sets that im currently working on. 3d settlers of catan. id love to be able to fully dial in my machine as I see some pretty spectacular results coming out of the facebook group.
would a local hardware store carry the kinds of machine screws you used for this? as for the electronics, I can probably muddle my way through the connections after spending a month trying to get the ones for the BLTouch done right.
Thanks again for the AWESOME videos. love watching them!
Hi David,
FOr the winner model, you just need a couple of screws to secure the blower (or just use some zip ties while you dont find them). Those screws are easy to find. The others that secure the fanduct you can use the same ones from the stock assembly. For the pestfang it's more tricky...you need some small M2s and stuff. In his thingiverse page he mentiones the screws needed.
@@ruiraptor have you had any issues with your board from the extra electrical draw, by adding an additional fan. The voltage drops when you add an extra load, has that affected anything for you?
Awesome video as always! Nice work!
Thanks :)
Need to post what mods were needed to attach the blower (clips , connectors , etc) to the stock wiring , and where to get those as well. Other than that nice tutorial.
Hi,
You are right about that. I haven't mentioned what's needed because each designed explains on their thingiverse page. Nevertheless, the one i have chosen is the easiest as you can use the same screws to secure the fang. You only need 2 aditional screws and nuts to secure the blower. About the connectors, you can solder the wires directly if you dont plan to switch fanducts or get molex or JTX connectors. Any will work.
For the fans did you splice the stock fan fire for it?
I'm new to this myself , but if you watch the video and at the 3:55 portion , is when he is removing the side fan , and I believe he cuts those 2 wires (pos and neg) and puts a molex connector on it , and the blower has a molex as well and is connected to that connector . If I am wrong , someone please correct me. You can put any 2 wire connector here , since I have a lot of JST connectors , I will be using those .
Great video. I need to revisit your Tarantula test, now that mine is working a little better now.
Thanks Chris
Hello great video
I was under the impression that pla would warp as it would be right next to the hot end. Have you experienced That? Anyone. been told to go abs but do not have the proper environment. thanks
Hi Alexander,
You should use PETG or ABS for the fanduct, however, in certain designs (the ones that are not too close to the nozzle and heatblock), you can get away with PLA. All the models that you see in the video were made with PLA.
I got the tevo tornado. ( new version 2018) thinking of doing the same cooling fan update but I dont know. If I need 12v or 24v fans ( ideally to wire it on. Stock wiring from stock fan)
Hi,
Go with 24v fans. This way you can connect the new fan wire to the existing one directly.
Thx for the advice
where did you buy your tevo? im looking to get the tornado but want to make sure i get the newer 2018 version.
@@millyvanillli2617 I got my from Amazon ( last time I checked was not available on the 2018 version)
Very useful to find the good way. Thanks for the job!
Thanks
Thanks Rui. Great job as usual. Much appreciated.
Thank you for the feedback :)
To install the petsfang, you have to slide the piece on a little, rotate it to the right, then rotate it to the left to clip it on, it's not supposed to slide straight down from the top. You didn't have to modify it. =P
Great video, though! Nice to see these different fanducts compared. =)
Hi, you are correct, but the way i did it, you don't have to worry about the wires that are on the right side.
The installation is far more easy and less problematic...especially when removing the piece.
Awesome video as always dude, damn you looks like I'll be printing a new fang now lol
I see the Fang Fan print file has a mount for the BLTouch.
Yes, it's compatible with BLtouch too
Dude I've seen this video so many times and it's been really helpful, but today when I was listening at 4:47 at a lower volume I heard "this one allows much better view of the pffftttt" and I was like Wth!? o.O, thanks for these reviews, super helpful
Hi Adrian, I mean that it allows a much better view of the print.
@ruiraptor do you have a video showing the install of the fang(single fan), like how to remove the side fan and replace it with the top 5015 blower? Having trouble figuring out how to remove the side one, and where to plug in the new one.
Hi Justin, we don't have a detailed video about that, sorry.
So here's a dumb question ; What's the connector used to swap the fans? I like the flexibility.
Hi Cory,
I used the same connector type as the one you connect to the board (JST-XH (2.5mm pitch)). The difference is that i used 3pin connectors instead of 2 pin connectors.
Great Video. What blower did you use for the "Fang with Blower"? Did you use the 12v blower he describes with a stepdown transformer or did you use a 24v blower? Thanks
Hi William,
I use a 24v blower and is connected in the same connector where the stock one was
@@ruiraptor how did you connect the blower fan up to the existing connector, is there a connector somewhere inside the tube?
Hi Huskie,
No, there is no connector between the fan and the board connector. I just cut the wire and crimped a new connector so i could test all the different fans. You can do the same or just solder the wires.
Thanks you :)
Could you provide a make/model or a link to the blower fan that you used? Affiliate link would be ok with me, BTW. Thanks!
Surprizing results!
Hi Dave
How can a BLTouch be installed when using the Fang Fan.
Thanks for the great videos.
Hi Dale,
The fang is compatible with autolevel sensor. Just check the thingiverse details.
Does anyone know if this would fit on ender 3 v2? Thank you, great video
I printed the winner a while back but haven't installed it yet. I guess I should.
I Kent,
Both are very good and too close to each other in terms of results.
Can I add this to the 2018 model?
Hi,
Yes you can. It's 100% compatible.
What should be my main upgrades just to get me started
I have made a video about the top upgrades you should have. You can check here: th-cam.com/video/cAsap1lBAN4/w-d-xo.html
what size is the blower and where should i getone from?
Hi,
The blower is a 5015 model.
You can find them here:
www.banggood.com/pt/DC24V-Cooling-Fan-Ultra-Quiet-Turbine-Small-DC-Blower-5015-For-3D-Printer-Circuit-Board-p-1108987.html?p=84280421195697201804&
How did you converted all the fans to 12V fans using a step-down regulator to power them?
Hi Zaily,
I havent. The tevo tornado is 24v and all the fans i used are also 24v.
Did you use a 24vDC or 12vDC blower for the Fang with the blower ? I am wanting to do the same to my Tornado but I am finding it difficult to find a 24vDC 5015 blower. Excellent video, really helpful as print visibility is my biggest issue with the standard cooling.
Nevermind, I see this was answered in a previous reply 🤪
I just bought 24V 5015 blowers on eBay, 2 for $8, shipped
www.ebay.com/itm/2-Pcs-24V-Gdstime-DC-5015-mm-Blower-Radial-Cooling-Fan-Hotend-Extruder-RepRap/162858610940?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649
Hi Dave,
I used 24v fans/blowers. You can find them easily on ebay.
Thanks for all the replies, I managed to source some on Amazon that were deliverable to South Africa 👍🏼
Hi rui,
Thanks for this overview!
How do you install the blower of your favorite Duct to the board?
Hi,
The fans/blowers were all conected to the existing connection (to the stock blower wires).
ruiraptor oh wow, I thought they run on a different voltage, but that's nice.
So just cutting the wires and soldering them back together is all it takes?
Awesome. I have decided on same course and have blowers standing by. Do you need extensions to be wiring the whole way into the controller or did you slice in? I haven't looked at stock wiring and was curious what is required
Hi Jason,
I didnt use extensions. I just cut the wire next to the stock blower and soldered a connector. For the new blower, i cut the wires and soldered the matching connector.
Great work!
Thanks Gerson.
Bonjour et un très grand merci de France pour ce super test cependant j'ai une question esque le model (Fang With Blower) peut ce faire pour une Créality CR-10 ? merci d'avance et bonne continuation.
Hi Serge,
I'm not sure if the fang with blower will fit the CR-10 as i never tested that, but i know that the second model (the petsfang) has a version compatible with the CR-10.
ruiraptor
Un très grand merci Ruiraptor bonne continuation
So if i get the 24v blower fan i can just cut and solder the new one to the stock cables?
Yes, that is correct.
Thanks
Excellent video as always! Thank you a lot! BTW: compared to the stock config: did you notice a difference in the regards of noise? I'm trying to make mine quieter for the whole print (except the start where the "engines start" at the beginning, I don't care then as it only last for one minute or two) as I work in the same room... Cheers!
Hi,
Compared with the stock blower, the fans are louder but the blower (the one used in the 2 winning fanducts) are not loud. The stepper motors are louder than the blower.
Boa tarde Rui, parabéns pelos videos.
queria que me ajudasse, estou a pensar comprar uma 3d printer, estou indeciso entre a teve tarantula e a tornado, qual é que me aconselha? ou ha alguma outra que seja melhor (preço qualidade). que softwares é que me aconselha?
cumprimentos fico aguardar uma resposta
Olá Francisco,
Entre os dois modelos, eu certamente escolheria a tevo tornado por vários motivos (maior area de impressão, mesa AC, 24V, etc)
ruiraptor já encomendei a tornado falei consigo na quinta feira no Facebook, obrigado
Abraço
the added weight on the print head is not an issue?
The X axis is very light. The extra weight does not make any difference.
Este equipamento serve em uma TEVO Tarantula também?
Para a tevo tarantula, fiz um estudo semelhante mas com peças compatíveis para ela aqui:
th-cam.com/video/c0llj3pBltA/w-d-xo.html
what was the fan speed you used for the test?
I used 80% for all the tests. I have that and more info in the video description.
I subbed and liked. Thankyou SO MUCH for this video!
Thanks Tyler :)
HEY THERE BRO WILL THIS DEVICE ZONESTAR Z8X/Z9 - TEVO TORNADO TAKE A STEPPING MOTOR DRIVER LV8727 ???
Hi,
I believe that yes but i don't have one of those printers to test with so I don't guarantee.
what blower have you used ? A 24V one? Is it silent? I tried several 24V ones without finding a silent one.
It's not completly silent but it's not that bad. It's not easy to find a quiet blower.
@@ruiraptor no that bad is much better to the ones I tried. Where di you geet yours? ;-)
I bought mine on ebay.
What's the best cooler to use with stock vents?
Hi Romex,
By vents you mean the heatsink?
All the models tested are for the stock hotend which includes the stock heatsink
Thank you for your quick answer :) That's what i wanted to hear, but i'm still not 100% sure... Fan @8.49 doesent look stock to me, that's why i asked.. I wanna use the original fans wich came with the tornado.
Hi,
We are talking about different things.
I was refering to the heatsink and you are referring to the blower.
In that case no. I did not used the stock blower except for the stock hardware (first test).
You have designs that use the stock blower (not tested) here:
www.thingiverse.com/thing:2842505
and
www.thingiverse.com/thing:2843375
There are more on thingiverse
Does that cooler work for the tevo tarantula printer ?
Hi,
For the tarantula you have the fang. I made a video like this one for the tarantula. Please check that one instead
but i want to know if works the lastt upgread for the tevo tarantula
and sorry for may bad english
yes... all these (th-cam.com/video/c0llj3pBltA/w-d-xo.html) will work for the recent batches of the tarantula.
Thanks for the video!
Thank you for the feedback :)
I wish someone would make a vid like this for the Anet A6
Thanks for the comment :)
Will the single fan blower version work on a cr-10?
Not sure if the position of the mounting screws are the same.
keep in mind that the cr-10 uses 12v unlike the tornado, which uses 24v
love the video, thanks for doing all this work! I just printed the fang/blower and installed it. Now I'm on my first test print I got "Temperature Runaway" error telling me to reset. Any idea what is going on? Thanks :)
Hi,
You probably have your blower running at 100%. Are you using the blower always on from start? Try to reduce the flow % especially in the initial layers and keep it off for the first 3 layers at least.
haha, I got 12v blowers. I'm running them at 35% and it's working beautifully :) Thanks for the video!
That explains it :)
Hello friend, can you give me the printing parameters that you use in your Tevo Tornado to obtain the good results of speeds, retraction speed, layer ventilation, etc. I would really appreciate it.
Hi, please check my patreon page. I have all my profiles there.
How can I connect 2 24V fans to an ender 3 pro?
you can connect them in parallel and use the same layer fan connector for both.
ruiraptor Are sure? Because I don't know if the Mainboard can Handel that for a longer time. But thanks I will try it👍
The fans draw small current. The board will handle a couple of fans connected in parallel. Just make sure you don't short anything.
Wich blower do you use for the fang with blower?
If you mean the blower that won the tests, it's a 24v 5015 blower.
What fan speed did you use during your test ? (100% 50%....)
Hi,
I used 80% on all tests. That and more details in the video description.
Thanks for your quick reply , sorry for not checking the description earlier :)
Merci pour cette vidéo 👍👋 dommage que ce soit pas sous titrée en français .👍
Hi Ruiraptor, what is your method for quick connecting the blower (with female connector) into the cable casing? Did you install a male plug on the stock harness? Also, do you use caps on your blower to reduce whine and also maintain PWM control? Please share!
Hi Paul,
For quick connecting the blower I simply cut the stock wire next to the blower (a few milimiters from the blower) and soldered a new connector.
This way I don’t have to remove/install the entire cable all the way in the cable casing.
Regarding the caps, I didn’t have to. The blower is silent from startup to full speed. And I used cheap ones from ebay.
The loudest ones are the fans. The blowers are very soft when it comes to noise…at least mine are. :)
Thank you for this video!!
Thanks Ginny
Is there an install video for the blower upgrade you chose in the end? I have the 24v fan and the correct blower and the parts all printed. But I'm unsure of the correct installation instructions and don't want to mess up my hot end. This is the last upgrade I think I need. Thank you!!!
can you use the stock fans
The stock layer cooling fan is too small and i would recommend a blower instead a fan because it has a much better performance.
wOOx TM there all over amazon 50 mm blower
What slicing software are you using? And can your share your profile please?
I used ideamaker
Tenho uma loja de filamento perto de casa e nem sabia... LOOOOOL
E uma excelente loja! Recomendo!
Hey.Which is better number 3 or number 5?
Hi,
As i mentioned in the last minutes of the video, both have great performance. I have chosen the fang model (#3) due to the fact that it's much easier to install compared with #5. For the #3 you only need 2 screws to install the fanduct and you can use the same screws from the metal cover. As for #5, you need to buy one additional long screw to secure the center piece and some M2 screws for the sides.
Thanks.
thank you ! verry usefull video :)
Thanks :)
What about stock one with different end duct point www.thingiverse.com/thing:2437407 or. similar. I like the design of the original one because it is more secure and protects heatblock if. it falls out. I know it is possible to use secure options in Marlin but still.
Hi Troy,
I did print that one too but i noticed a few issues...
One is that it is too close to the hotend so you need to print this one with ABS and not PLA.
Second, it is too small and it takes out the visibility.
And third, the air output is too small. With the fang models you have more output and therefore more performance.
Do you ever plan on making one of these videos for the Black Widow? Im sure that it would help a lot of people, including me.
Hi,
That is a good question....and the answer is yes. I have already a list of fanducts to make and test for the black widow...i just need the time to do it ;) Hope i can do it soon.
AlwYs enjoy looking at your videos. tomorrow I will pRint and install a fang duct for mh creality ejej
Thank you Belen :)
It looks like your adding an additional fan.. Where do you plug the third one into?
For the cases where you have a dual fan for layer cooling, you connect the second fan in parallel with the first one.
@@ruiraptor That doesn't cause too much electric draw and reduction of voltage?
You mean current draw? No, the fans draw a fairly small amout current.
@@ruiraptor Correct, would it cause any harm to my main board in the 3D printer?
Thank you for responding so fast buddy!
Not if you connect correctly both fans in parallel. ;)
Awesome! Sub'd my dude!
Thanks Brent :)
Please stop the background music.
You missed my fanduct desigh; I call it Z-19
www.thingiverse.com/thing:2911981
It's an easy swap, using the CR-10's stock fans, no soldering needed; but my "fangs" are designed mindful of basic aerodynamics, which none of the fanducts I've seen so far seem to. Read about this in my notes on the Z-19 page. You should give it a try; I bet you'd get results almost as good with it as with those other designs featuring big blowers; but I will be designing an upgrade very soon, that will use a 5115 at the top and a 40-40-20 below.
I designed the Z-19 for Creality printers, but with a bit of modification I could make it serve the Tevo Tornado as well.
Hi Dan,
Thank you so much for sharing your design. I might test it soon. Also, if you get the new version working let me know.
Thank you for replying. The Z-19 is finished; it will stay as it is, at rev 1.5, unless some defect is reported. The new version will be called "Z-X"; it will be a separate thing; and will feature a 40x40x20 fan for the hot end; one, or maybe two, 5115 blowers for model cooling; and a few extra surprises... ;-) I have a page for it already; --but not much to see yet...
www.thingiverse.com/thing:2991795
But so, the Z-19 was, and is, meant to be an entry level modding fang thing, easy to swap out the box and in the print, no cutting or soldering; no new parts to order; even using the original screws.
I am truly honored to have my Petsfang included as a finalist in the cooling reviews. I've been getting messages about the confusing installation that is different from my instructions. It is not necessary to cut grooves in the base to install it. Here is a shortcut to an install tutorial. Rui, Thanks again for the chance to prove my duct. th-cam.com/video/CV5mg83jLc4/w-d-xo.html Part 2 is on my channel as well.
Hi Dalvid,
Thanks for your explanation and for sharing the instructions. Congrats for your design and it's great results.
3rd.... lol
:D
very terrible intro -.- pls change it
you are the first guy who says this wtf
What printing surface are you using here?
Hi,
I was using a filaprint