No excuses for what happened on Saturday. But for context, that 11-2 team last year had 11 players with eligibility left declare for the NFL draft and 12 transfer out. This might be a little bit more of a rebuild than anybody anticipated. Today's society expects results immediately but in reality he's going to need 2-3 years before we see what changes actually come to fruition.
Lincoln riley would lose almost as many players and still go 11-1 and make the playoffs and yall still said he was a bad coach. yall also said yall didnt need caleb and venable would make the defense better.
I love that Brent Venables knows what you said "Talent doesn't win games, teams win games" He said it himself in his post game press conference. I think that coaching staff and team takes their lumps this year and comes back next year with a vengeance. That being said, man it's been a rough couple weeks as a Sooners fan.
The amazing thing is this is Sonny Dykes first season at TCU. They are in the same position as Oklahoma learning new offense and defense. That buy-in at TCU from the beginning was huge. Then all the hype went to Texas Tech and Oklahoma. Meanwhile, TCU is just working preparing for the season. Just taking in everything Dykes staff is wanting them to do. TCU was looking to get respect in the fall while the others were talking. TCU fans responding too great atmosphere, sold out crowd. Looking at TCU today I like where they are heading.
This comment hit home and hopefully people take this to heart. I believe in BV and know he can do this but he has a lot to learn about being the man. T is a process and I am going to trust he can get it done.
As an OU fan that reluctantly drank the Kool-Aid over the course of the summer, I was shocked by Saturday...even after last week's loss to KSU. That said, I think you are dropping truth bombs all over the place about our program and just football in general. I still have lot's of hope for the future, especially if we can hold on to our recruiting class, but this was a reality check for most of us.
As a USC alumnus I really enjoyed that public humiliation of Brent Veneble's "venerable" defense. After 10+ months of HATE and vitriol from OU fans....it was quite enjoyable. What's even more funny is that TCU's offensive coordinator is Lincoln Riley's little brother. LOL.
As an OU fan, I really continue to enjoy the memes coming from the Utah beat-downs and the continued track record from Stinkin’ Lincoln & his chump DC. What’s even more funny is the realization for USC fans that we OU fans appreciate you taking those snakes off our hands. We’ll be looking for USC in the playoffs & that wonderful defense they’ll undoubtedly have 😂
I love the comments. This is reality . We lost 2 quarterbacks and 2 dozen players in the portal. We will have to regroup and stay focused. I don't know why Venables allowed his starting Safety (Bowman) to return kick offs (injured) and Mims, our #1 playmaker to return punts (dinged up). Bowman's backup immediately got burned for 70 yard TD pass. Our defense must stop BUSTED PLAYS
IF YOU WANT REALITY…… the Sooners gave up big plays NOT ON BUSTED PLAYS but basic football fundamentals. SOONERS even with the transfer portal should NEVER LOOSE by this kind of margin. Of anything All you Sooners fan ARE MYOPIC. For months every one and their grandma said losing Riley is not a big deal snd their incoming recruits will easily replace those players thst left. NOW WHAT?????! OKC needs to admit they absolutely have blundered all the process when RILEY left. Its actually sad to see a team that perrenially gets this bad without dealing with a sanction. Just like an alcoholic the first order of business is ADMIT FAULT.
I think it's funny that LR inherited a 4-8 team and takes them to 5-0. Oklahoma fans are still acting like BV who inherited an 11 win team is somehow the one who is at a disadvantage. 11 win teams don't have culture problems. Teams that lose by double digit points twice in a row do.
This is probably one of the more stupid comments here lol first off, Oklahoma hasn’t lost back to back double digit games. Second, if you think two games defines a culture, you’re an idiot. Venables has had 9-10 months with a bunch of scarred up Riley and Grinch recruits. Brent’s first real recruiting class is borderline top 5 rn, something Lincoln couldn’t do in 5 years at OU, I think that speak to the culture more than anything. Lincoln’s having success rn bc he’s taken elite talent from teams all over the country and put them together on a team in a weak ass conference, I don’t think USC has even played a ranked team yet.
I need to verify this, but I read somewhere that when Venables took over the defensive coordinator job at Clemson, West Virginia hung 70+ points on them that first season. This rebuild is going to take some time.
As a KSU fan my kids are fed a steady diet of OU loses. Literally during non-football times in the summer we have the last few OU games we won on repeat. We will probably add in this TCU one too.
I never did thought that we were more TALENTED than TCU. I ain't never trusted em players that been on this team for 3 years. I know TALENT when I see it and we don't have it especially on DEFENSE
Riley's teams regressed over his career at OU. His best teams were his first couple... and as Stoops' recruits left, we weren't as tough. Having 3-deep in 5* at QB and WR was meaningless with 2-3* OL. Which we still have those OL... with multiple false starts at home I cannot explain the last two weeks of OU. I wasn't expecting an undefeated CFP run after the Nebraska game, but to that point I did expect solid tackling and good football IQ on the defensive sides of things...
@@mark1778 You damn right its a decline. From '17 to '21 we went from #3, #4, #7, #6, to #10... And CFPs to December bowls. That's regression. And I dunno who you're talkin' to, but I live outside Atlanta. I grew up in Alabama. I know plenty about how this ain't gonna work in the SEC. I was at the playoff games watchin' our fanbase get pantsed in the noise department by an LSU crowd that was maybe 40% of the stadium.
@@richardkoch5941 ummm yeah. I thought I made it abundantly clear…. Your head coach is not a real head coach… but you’re going to have to learn the hard way now
You are right. There is too much hype and distractions in College Football because of the “big bucks.” Bottom line is this is still a sport and the score on the scoreboard at the end of 60 mins is what matters. The team must learn how to play and make adjustments in a game for the entire 60 mins to compete and win. Too much off the field distractions exist since players and teams need to comply with NCAA rules on how many times they can put on pads and train. It is no longer just about a game. There is NIL, transfer options, culture, etc.
Players not knowing their assignments leading to busted play after busted play, is fixable. People saying this is a talent issue, when OU has more talent than anyone on their schedule not named Texas, is high comedy. We might drool over Georgia's talent, but TCU is drooling over ours. Talent is not an issue at OU in 2022.
@@Lakeshow0024 Sure, I guess. But the real world is a little more complicated, if you peel the onion. These kids are going from running one of the simplest schemes ever, to one of the most complicated. If they were running the old scheme, they wouldn't be busting, but the inherent flaws of that scheme eventually show up as well. Sometimes it takes a step back for every two forward.
Kentucky is a perfect example of what can happen if you give a good coach time to build. When stoops took over he went 1-11 lost 40-0 to Vanderbilt and now look where we are
No one should be surprised. It was a farce for people to just assume "just because" that Venables would automatically succeed at Lincoln Rileys level. He could be the next Scott Frost, Jimbo Fisher or Lincoln Riley. But, he is a first time ever HC. So many guys are great coordinators and average or bad Head Coaches. Few end up also being a great Head Coach. So good luck to OU, because early on, it looks bad.
I think the Sooners suffered from arrogance and reality. They thought all they had to do was show up. They better show up Saturday against Texas or all hell's going to break loose... But everybody has to be patient with Brent Venables there's no way he was going to have that program where we all expected it and believed the hype to be... So it's a reality check for all of us Sooner fans...this could be a really long season
OU has to stop the No Huddle non-sense. How many teams have won a national title running that crap? BV was run out of Norman because he allegedly could not get the job done. Went to Clemson and got his mojo back. Back in Norman and his defenses are getting torched again. The one variable in all of this, the no huddle.
Yep been saying the same thing. Defense is struggling and they give the other team at least 10 more possessions every game with it especially when they don’t score on drives.
Good point. It doesn’t catch anyone off guard anymore. They just sub slow when offense does. Causes a ton of false starts too. It’s a disadvantage these days.
@@thrillsmills3319 Use it situationally. Hit a big play, run up and go into no huddle but running it full time with a defense that lacks talent and skill, as in Oklahoma's case, is a recipe for disaster as we are seeing.
oklahoma talked that talk all off season, It was we're going to the cfp we gonna win the big12 everyone look out we got our guy. Now it's we gotta wait and blame Lincoln for taking all our players? I'm confused they said keep that energy and now it's make excuses time lol.
Fortunately my 11yr old daughter dismissed herself from witnessing the slaughter. Seriously. She left the house with mom. I forced myself to finish it. Felt like a punishment for directing my family to be OU fans. Lol
yeah but yalls historic high powered offense put up only 17 on oregon state. yeah you won but because oregon states offense is just that bad. its gonna be ok for both ou and usc. both have to get a few more recruting classes under there belt before we can really judge them. year 3 is when i think we will see who the better staff/coach is.
Interesting, my brother's wife and kid generally leave the house and head to LV or anywhere for a couple of days just in case. That was whenever the Sooners were on TV. Nowadays it's probably every weekend!
Good god after what I saw Saturday I am hoping for a 8-4 season. Unfortunately I don't see it this is gonna be a season we take our lumps so hopefully we have a better team next season.
What I seen was a team that was constantly out of position on defense. And couldn't tackle anyone. It was pathetic, Duggan isn't a Heisman finalists and TCU isn't a top 10 team. I see alot more L's in Oklahomas future.
I got a little feedback here when I said OU would win 8 or 9 games this season. Everyone overlooked the fact that OUI has a HC in his first ever HC job, they finished 3rd in the Big 12 last year, was gutted in free agency, and depending on a G5 QB transfer. There was no way OU was going to win the Big 12 this season. I posted that this summer and posting it again now. They will be what people expect OU to be soon, but not this season.
Pate cmon, Before the season from you it was “OU will need time this year so don’t expect too much outta BV year 1” After games 1-3 “Sooners are a serious title contender” Now its this 🤣
I don’t really care what your talent pool looks like, the chances of a bran new coach taking over a program, and not having some really bad games is really low. The idea that a coach is going to win the big 12 in his first year is almost laughable. And that is assuming the only big change is the coaching staff. Now add 11 starters declaring for the draft, and a dozen others transferring. Some of y’all are expecting way to much out of BV’s inaugural season.
I'm fine with going 6-6 or 8-4 or something like that. If in 3 years we're competing for titles which I believe we will. This program behind the scenes is not in good shape. Look at the players their mentally beat up, and brent has said that himself in press confrences some guys are beat up. Some of have no idea what Riley and espically Grinch did to players. I knew several players on the defense and they stated Grinch was a straight A-hole. If you weren't on scholarship he told you to leave the meeting room because you weren't important enough. If you messed up once on a call you were benched for the week, unless you were one of his favorites, DJ Graham, Woodi, Justin Broiles, Pat Fields etc all which are 2nd string minus woodi, once transferred out idk if he's starting but he's playing. Grinch destroyed the players mentally, AFTER he recruited them to come there. When Brent is on year 4 mark my words this won't ever happen again.
I will be the first to admit Josh, I came on here every video for 10 months asking you to talk about Oklahoma and you just weren't ready to commit. I get it now. We fans did us a disservice. The program was so gutted any positive growth we just ran with. We now see what we honestly expected back in December. 40 percent of the players are new. Every single bit of defensive talent went to the NFL, 7 guys and they weren't that deep then either. Lost both 5 star QBs and a 5 star WR and multiple other 5 star future commits. On top of that you have kids going from a Grinch system of 3 total plays to an incredibly complex system under Venable....but with Grinch's guys tho. BV is trying to break so many years of bad habits from the last administration idk if he'll have a good defense until he fully has his own guys in place. We might just have to accept we have a year or 2 of a rebuild.
This all comes down to tackling 101 but allowing big play after big play from teams it shouldn’t be happening. But again BV is learning on the job he hasn’t been a head coach being a head coach is different then a def only have to worry about def not the whole team it will take time but I never imagine Al this against inferior teams
Been sooner fan my whole life I myself did not expect winning season this year and maybe not next year but I fell like once BV gets his recruits in and get couple years under his belt OU will be alright BOOMER
Josh sounds like a Oklahoma homer... look at what Lincoln Riley is doing w a 4-8 team, all the excuses Josh is making for Brent V are exactly the things Lincoln is doing at USC.!
At this point there isn’t another win on ou’s schedule. Bv needs to get his shit together or get gone. With all that talent this is unacceptable. They are so god awful defensively and he is a defensive head coach. On top of that lebby needs to be fired. He is predictable. Way to many 3 and outs because of it. Bv and this staff are in over their heads.
I really don't know better so I would say Kstate & TCU are top 10 teams. OU cannot be as bad as they looked on D. I listened to the radio broadcast from the start, first time long time & thought I listening to a WWE event, which I cannot stand that BS nonsense. Times change, I don't.
It’s going to take time to get the soft, mediocre Lincoln Riley way of football out of the locker room. BV has a proven track record to coaching good defense so it will change when we get rid of the bad culture we had. This might sound dumb but the defense wasn’t all bad, most of those big plays were 1 player out of position and that costs u. Just have to trust the process and get better
See its crap like this that amplifies the lunacy that's going on here... "sure Oklahoma has the more talented players" he said that 3 times, this is called propaganda..... this is kissing up to the cottage industry of recruiting, you have all these Oklahoma people thinking they have the horses its just a matter of breaking them in.... wrong, tcu, which isn't that great, I've seen them all year, has better "more talented" offensive lines(not by much) running backs, quarterbacks, wide receivers, and linebackers......... defensive backs are on par..... no Oklahoma isn't the most talented, Oklahoma isn't physical, at all. Oklahoma needs to take steps to being good,, not just jump straight into greatness, shows like this are why ou fans struggle with undaunting expectations, ou has good talent, middle of the road big 12 talent, recruiting services for the past decades have added a extra star to their recruits"after committing " you hear ou fans talk about Billy bowman like he's Charles Woodson,,or bo Jackson.... he's just a good player, who wouldn't start for Texas, osu or Baylor.... none of ou line would start for osu, or Baylor.... that's how far ou is behind the 8 ball,
Oklahoma has had an unbelievable run. When coaching changes happened, it was handled the right way by grooming the next guy and careful planning. And an unbelievable streak of super talented qbs. But guess what....that's not how it happened this time. Welcome to the OU version of Charlie Strong. Average QB play and huge turnovers within the program = mediocre results. And It's a long, hard road back. I almost feel bad for you, but no sympathy or understanding was afforded Texas so y'all can expect the same in return. I'll be traveling to Dallas this weekend hoping to see a half empty stadium from an OU fanbase bail on their team at half-time.
No excuses for what happened on Saturday. But for context, that 11-2 team last year had 11 players with eligibility left declare for the NFL draft and 12 transfer out. This might be a little bit more of a rebuild than anybody anticipated. Today's society expects results immediately but in reality he's going to need 2-3 years before we see what changes actually come to fruition.
Hmmmm, yeah, you need to check out the truck load of players that TCU lost last year.
Lincoln riley would lose almost as many players and still go 11-1 and make the playoffs and yall still said he was a bad coach. yall also said yall didnt need caleb and venable would make the defense better.
Oregon, TCU, Washington, LSU can win immediately with new coaches. OU still has the most talent in the conference, they may also have the worst coach.
Your giving nothing but excuses - all teams lose players and / or have injured players
But didn’t Bob win in his first year with players that weren’t his?
I love that Brent Venables knows what you said "Talent doesn't win games, teams win games" He said it himself in his post game press conference. I think that coaching staff and team takes their lumps this year and comes back next year with a vengeance. That being said, man it's been a rough couple weeks as a Sooners fan.
BV is a trash Coach
BV was hired at Clemson because of the 70 put on them in a bowl game. So he arrived after the bowl game.
The 90s OU is back!!!!!!
O State will throttle us. It’s not going away anytime soon.
@@JoeCab oh Lord please no
The amazing thing is this is Sonny Dykes first season at TCU. They are in the same position as Oklahoma learning new offense and defense. That buy-in at TCU from the beginning was huge. Then all the hype went to Texas Tech and Oklahoma. Meanwhile, TCU is just working preparing for the season. Just taking in everything Dykes staff is wanting them to do. TCU was looking to get respect in the fall while the others were talking. TCU fans responding too great atmosphere, sold out crowd. Looking at TCU today I like where they are heading.
49k... 2nd highest attended game at The Carter.
@@29Texan TCU isn’t a big public school and capacity is 46k at AGC
@@John-fk5et I realize this is such a small thing to correct but TCU is actually a private school. Sorry for being nit picky there lol
This comment hit home and hopefully people take this to heart. I believe in BV and know he can do this but he has a lot to learn about being the man. T is a process and I am going to trust he can get it done.
As an OU fan that reluctantly drank the Kool-Aid over the course of the summer, I was shocked by Saturday...even after last week's loss to KSU. That said, I think you are dropping truth bombs all over the place about our program and just football in general. I still have lot's of hope for the future, especially if we can hold on to our recruiting class, but this was a reality check for most of us.
As a USC alumnus I really enjoyed that public humiliation of Brent Veneble's "venerable" defense. After 10+ months of HATE and vitriol from OU fans....it was quite enjoyable. What's even more funny is that TCU's offensive coordinator is Lincoln Riley's little brother. LOL.
As an OU fan, I really continue to enjoy the memes coming from the Utah beat-downs and the continued track record from Stinkin’ Lincoln & his chump DC. What’s even more funny is the realization for USC fans that we OU fans appreciate you taking those snakes off our hands. We’ll be looking for USC in the playoffs & that wonderful defense they’ll undoubtedly have 😂
Thanks Josh, I appreciate your honesty! As an OU fan I totally agree with all you said. Oklahoma was the more talented team, but the better team won!
I love the comments. This is reality . We lost 2 quarterbacks and 2 dozen players in the portal. We will have to regroup and stay focused. I don't know why Venables allowed his starting Safety (Bowman) to return kick offs (injured) and Mims, our #1 playmaker to return punts (dinged up). Bowman's backup immediately got burned for 70 yard TD pass. Our defense must stop BUSTED PLAYS
IF YOU WANT REALITY…… the Sooners gave up big plays NOT ON BUSTED PLAYS but basic football fundamentals. SOONERS even with the transfer portal should NEVER LOOSE by this kind of margin. Of anything All you Sooners fan ARE MYOPIC. For months every one and their grandma said losing Riley is not a big deal snd their incoming recruits will easily replace those players thst left. NOW WHAT?????! OKC needs to admit they absolutely have blundered all the process when RILEY left. Its actually sad to see a team that perrenially gets this bad without dealing with a sanction. Just like an alcoholic the first order of business is ADMIT FAULT.
Oh I watched... every minute... and enjoyed every damn second.
Score alert: TCU just scored again!
The Oklahoma of the 90s is back!!!!!!!!!!
Oklahoma won't win the Big 12 this year. The best case scenario is a mid-level bowl game if we're lucky and we're really pushing that.
I'm betting on one of the Kansas schools or OSU to take it all -- maybe Baylor if they can hold it together
@@storm7586 As it won't be OU this year, I'll go for the Cowboys. They are due for a shot at the Big 12 title.
Dukes Mayo bowl. Only half joking since it really exists.
Lesson being learned by my beloved Irish and Coach Freeman. Takes time and some mistakes
I think it's funny that LR inherited a 4-8 team and takes them to 5-0. Oklahoma fans are still acting like BV who inherited an 11 win team is somehow the one who is at a disadvantage. 11 win teams don't have culture problems. Teams that lose by double digit points twice in a row do.
🤣,,,,, but Lincoln Riley,,,, Lincoln Riley. Everything is his fault. 🤣
This is probably one of the more stupid comments here lol first off, Oklahoma hasn’t lost back to back double digit games. Second, if you think two games defines a culture, you’re an idiot. Venables has had 9-10 months with a bunch of scarred up Riley and Grinch recruits. Brent’s first real recruiting class is borderline top 5 rn, something Lincoln couldn’t do in 5 years at OU, I think that speak to the culture more than anything. Lincoln’s having success rn bc he’s taken elite talent from teams all over the country and put them together on a team in a weak ass conference, I don’t think USC has even played a ranked team yet.
@@hyattsweezy9152 oklahoma haven't play a rank team yet lol...ya lost back to back unranked team and made them rank team after ys lost lol 😆 😂 🤣
Lol, another clueless Okie who has never played the game. Fine, you deal with the results… 😂
Lol, another clueless Okie who has never played the game. Fine, you deal with the results… 😂
I always thought Brent Venables was a defensive coordinator. On another matter, the over/under for this weeks TCU/Kansas game is 110. Thank you.
I need to verify this, but I read somewhere that when Venables took over the defensive coordinator job at Clemson, West Virginia hung 70+ points on them that first season. This rebuild is going to take some time.
Kevin Steele was the DC in 2012.
That was in the 2012 Orange Bowl (2011 CFB season).
I believe the 70 point game was under Steele and Venables was hired after that. But no doubt things often take time with a new head coach.
As a KSU fan my kids are fed a steady diet of OU loses. Literally during non-football times in the summer we have the last few OU games we won on repeat. We will probably add in this TCU one too.
That's pretty pathetic.
@@Rob-hv5zq Its a joke Rob. Sorry it wasn't funny.
I thought we talked about winners first on this show?
It's not having a big heart to put in your back ups when you are blowing someone out. That's just being smart about injuries.
Fear the 🐸
It stings Josh but it’s true, it’s all true. We Sooners have that dust bowl feeling right now but with time things will get better.
Sooner fan; until death.... but he is so right😞
Still shocking for Oklahoma to give up 628 yards to any team ever. Washington state has a new head coach their team looks good.
I never did thought that we were more TALENTED than TCU. I ain't never trusted em players that been on this team for 3 years. I know TALENT when I see it and we don't have it especially on DEFENSE
Riley's teams regressed over his career at OU. His best teams were his first couple... and as Stoops' recruits left, we weren't as tough. Having 3-deep in 5* at QB and WR was meaningless with 2-3* OL. Which we still have those OL... with multiple false starts at home
I cannot explain the last two weeks of OU. I wasn't expecting an undefeated CFP run after the Nebraska game, but to that point I did expect solid tackling and good football IQ on the defensive sides of things...
LR finished his last year as a top 10 team and you call that declining? Your going to have a blast with BV and the SEC...
LOL!! Whatever makes you sleep better at night. 😂
@@mark1778 You damn right its a decline. From '17 to '21 we went from #3, #4, #7, #6, to #10... And CFPs to December bowls. That's regression.
And I dunno who you're talkin' to, but I live outside Atlanta. I grew up in Alabama. I know plenty about how this ain't gonna work in the SEC. I was at the playoff games watchin' our fanbase get pantsed in the noise department by an LSU crowd that was maybe 40% of the stadium.
@@cwhite1249 You think 3* OL are the solution?
@@richardkoch5941 ummm yeah. I thought I made it abundantly clear…. Your head coach is not a real head coach… but you’re going to have to learn the hard way now
Did I miss something? Riley left unceremoniously but what cultural problems were there winning 11 games per year?
All for the take that it takes patience to be great but if Oklahoma only wins 9 games next year that patience is up
So when Oklahoma wins is because of bv coaching but when they lose it’s because of LR make up your mind which one is it keep that same energy
You are right. There is too much hype and distractions in College Football because of the “big bucks.” Bottom line is this is still a sport and the score on the scoreboard at the end of 60 mins is what matters. The team must learn how to play and make adjustments in a game for the entire 60 mins to compete and win. Too much off the field distractions exist since players and teams need to comply with NCAA rules on how many times they can put on pads and train. It is no longer just about a game. There is NIL, transfer options, culture, etc.
Stop. Brent isnt the guy. U will see that soon enough
Players not knowing their assignments leading to busted play after busted play, is fixable. People saying this is a talent issue, when OU has more talent than anyone on their schedule not named Texas, is high comedy. We might drool over Georgia's talent, but TCU is drooling over ours. Talent is not an issue at OU in 2022.
Blame your coach
@@Lakeshow0024 Sure, I guess. But the real world is a little more complicated, if you peel the onion. These kids are going from running one of the simplest schemes ever, to one of the most complicated. If they were running the old scheme, they wouldn't be busting, but the inherent flaws of that scheme eventually show up as well. Sometimes it takes a step back for every two forward.
TCU isn't drooling over anything right now, my guy . . .
@@29Texan Congrats on missing the point while trying to act smart.
The reason why Lincoln Riley left. He knew what he had on defense.
Alabama needs to sign Garret Riley
Kentucky is a perfect example of what can happen if you give a good coach time to build. When stoops took over he went 1-11 lost 40-0 to Vanderbilt and now look where we are
Agree at a place like Kentucky. Stoops had to start from scratch. Sooners aren’t exactly a hard program to take over.
OU probably misses Lincoln Riley. Looks like he turned USC around already.
Had a feeling OU would lose a few games this year.
No one should be surprised. It was a farce for people to just assume "just because" that Venables would automatically succeed at Lincoln Rileys level.
He could be the next Scott Frost, Jimbo Fisher or Lincoln Riley. But, he is a first time ever HC. So many guys are great coordinators and average or bad Head Coaches. Few end up also being a great Head Coach.
So good luck to OU, because early on, it looks bad.
22-23 has lost its mind at this point. It’s now at the point where the Big 12 has no easy win. Not even Kansas.
"Was that us?" Nah Mississippi state made a deal with the other side 😈 for a win like that!!! 🔥 🔥 🔥
LINCOLN REILEY IS SAYING HOW DO YOU LIKE ME NOW!!!
It’s crazy how many Oklahoma fans thought they got better after losing Lincoln Riley
Also BV has never been a head coach so he’s learning on the job he will get better but this all comes down to coaching and tackling 101
…nothing on the stimulus check comment?!? That was hilarious
Go Frogs!
Dem boys ran rough shot over Oklahoma, it looked like tcu was running track 😂😂😂😂
I think the Sooners suffered from arrogance and reality. They thought all they had to do was show up. They better show up Saturday against Texas or all hell's going to break loose... But everybody has to be patient with Brent Venables there's no way he was going to have that program where we all expected it and believed the hype to be... So it's a reality check for all of us Sooner fans...this could be a really long season
OU has to stop the No Huddle non-sense. How many teams have won a national title running that crap? BV was run out of Norman because he allegedly could not get the job done. Went to Clemson and got his mojo back. Back in Norman and his defenses are getting torched again. The one variable in all of this, the no huddle.
Yep been saying the same thing. Defense is struggling and they give the other team at least 10 more possessions every game with it especially when they don’t score on drives.
Dude what are you talking about? Nobody has huddled up in two decades....
Good point. It doesn’t catch anyone off guard anymore. They just sub slow when offense does. Causes a ton of false starts too. It’s a disadvantage these days.
@@thrillsmills3319 Use it situationally. Hit a big play, run up and go into no huddle but running it full time with a defense that lacks talent and skill, as in Oklahoma's case, is a recipe for disaster as we are seeing.
Oh No! We suck again!
oklahoma talked that talk all off season, It was we're going to the cfp we gonna win the big12 everyone look out we got our guy. Now it's we gotta wait and blame Lincoln for taking all our players? I'm confused they said keep that energy and now it's make excuses time lol.
Now that was an old faction spanking and more spanking are coming up.
Nebraska 2.0
Nebraska actually won on Saturday and did that off of a bye week witch frost never did in 4 years
I think it’s fair for the kids to watch one of the biggest brands to lose
so -- OU isn't that good -- knew it
Coach V definitely put the Boo in Boomer. Just run the wishbone and get back to basics. Come on Man
Fortunately my 11yr old daughter dismissed herself from witnessing the slaughter. Seriously. She left the house with mom. I forced myself to finish it. Felt like a punishment for directing my family to be OU fans. Lol
You got smitted by the wrath of the football gods 🤣 .
yeah but yalls historic high powered offense put up only 17 on oregon state. yeah you won but because oregon states offense is just that bad. its gonna be ok for both ou and usc. both have to get a few more recruting classes under there belt before we can really judge them. year 3 is when i think we will see who the better staff/coach is.
@@greenearth975 lol
Interesting, my brother's wife and kid generally leave the house and head to LV or anywhere for a couple of days just in case. That was whenever the Sooners were on TV. Nowadays it's probably every weekend!
Oklahoma was beaten like a red-headed step child.
Career coordinators are never good head coaching hires.
See: Larry Coker
Oklahoma will finish 8-4 this season
No....maybe 5-7. Unfortunately
Good god after what I saw Saturday I am hoping for a 8-4 season. Unfortunately I don't see it this is gonna be a season we take our lumps so hopefully we have a better team next season.
No they won't. OU is gonna get beat up alot...OU is small
Not with Beville in
4-8
What I seen was a team that was constantly out of position on defense. And couldn't tackle anyone. It was pathetic, Duggan isn't a Heisman finalists and TCU isn't a top 10 team. I see alot more L's in Oklahomas future.
I got a little feedback here when I said OU would win 8 or 9 games this season. Everyone overlooked the fact that OUI has a HC in his first ever HC job, they finished 3rd in the Big 12 last year, was gutted in free agency, and depending on a G5 QB transfer. There was no way OU was going to win the Big 12 this season. I posted that this summer and posting it again now. They will be what people expect OU to be soon, but not this season.
2025 OU joins the SEC. That’s all the time he has to get everything primed and ready. 🤷🏾
Pate cmon, Before the season from you it was “OU will need time this year so don’t expect too much outta BV year 1”
After games 1-3 “Sooners are a serious title contender”
Now its this 🤣
Could you find me the time stamp in ANY video or podcast I’ve done where I called Oklahoma a serious title contender? Thanks. - JP
I don’t really care what your talent pool looks like, the chances of a bran new coach taking over a program, and not having some really bad games is really low. The idea that a coach is going to win the big 12 in his first year is almost laughable. And that is assuming the only big change is the coaching staff. Now add 11 starters declaring for the draft, and a dozen others transferring. Some of y’all are expecting way to much out of BV’s inaugural season.
Steve Martin is not a very good defensive coordinator.
I'm fine with going 6-6 or 8-4 or something like that.
If in 3 years we're competing for titles which I believe we will.
This program behind the scenes is not in good shape. Look at the players their mentally beat up, and brent has said that himself in press confrences some guys are beat up.
Some of have no idea what Riley and espically Grinch did to players. I knew several players on the defense and they stated Grinch was a straight A-hole.
If you weren't on scholarship he told you to leave the meeting room because you weren't important enough. If you messed up once on a call you were benched for the week, unless you were one of his favorites, DJ Graham, Woodi, Justin Broiles, Pat Fields etc all which are 2nd string minus woodi, once transferred out idk if he's starting but he's playing.
Grinch destroyed the players mentally, AFTER he recruited them to come there.
When Brent is on year 4 mark my words this won't ever happen again.
I will be the first to admit Josh, I came on here every video for 10 months asking you to talk about Oklahoma and you just weren't ready to commit. I get it now. We fans did us a disservice. The program was so gutted any positive growth we just ran with. We now see what we honestly expected back in December. 40 percent of the players are new. Every single bit of defensive talent went to the NFL, 7 guys and they weren't that deep then either. Lost both 5 star QBs and a 5 star WR and multiple other 5 star future commits. On top of that you have kids going from a Grinch system of 3 total plays to an incredibly complex system under Venable....but with Grinch's guys tho. BV is trying to break so many years of bad habits from the last administration idk if he'll have a good defense until he fully has his own guys in place. We might just have to accept we have a year or 2 of a rebuild.
This all comes down to tackling 101 but allowing big play after big play from teams it shouldn’t be happening. But again BV is learning on the job he hasn’t been a head coach being a head coach is different then a def only have to worry about def not the whole team it will take time but I never imagine Al this against inferior teams
Been sooner fan my whole life I myself did not expect winning season this year and maybe not next year but I fell like once BV gets his recruits in and get couple years under his belt OU will be alright BOOMER
Josh sounds like a Oklahoma homer... look at what Lincoln Riley is doing w a 4-8 team, all the excuses Josh is making for Brent V are exactly the things Lincoln is doing at USC.!
I’m not so sure Ou has more talent than Kstate or TCU. Just watch the tape. Clearly the players are not very good.
OU is not more talented than TCU. Come on man.
Say it again RECRUITING RANKINGS MEAN NOTHING
Why? They do mean something. They just don’t mean everything. - JP
TIME TO CONVERT OKLAHOMA FOOTBALL TEAM TO COMPETITION CHEERLEADERS. NCCA CONSIDERS CHEERLEADING A CONTACT SPORT!!!
At this point there isn’t another win on ou’s schedule. Bv needs to get his shit together or get gone. With all that talent this is unacceptable. They are so god awful defensively and he is a defensive head coach. On top of that lebby needs to be fired. He is predictable. Way to many 3 and outs because of it. Bv and this staff are in over their heads.
I really don't know better so I would say Kstate & TCU are top 10 teams. OU cannot be as bad as they looked on D. I listened to the radio broadcast from the start, first time long time & thought I listening to a WWE event, which I cannot stand that BS nonsense. Times change, I don't.
OU Radio broadcasts are some of the worst things on air.
Well problem is Tulane beat KSU and SMU hung with TCU. They have talent on offense but this isn’t 2005 USC or 2019 LSU.
It’s going to take time to get the soft, mediocre Lincoln Riley way of football out of the locker room. BV has a proven track record to coaching good defense so it will change when we get rid of the bad culture we had. This might sound dumb but the defense wasn’t all bad, most of those big plays were 1 player out of position and that costs u. Just have to trust the process and get better
I can't wait for them to be in the SEC. I hope the Sooners have a good memory, because the good ole days will be exactly that...a distant memory.
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I WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE OKIES FOR HELPING MOVE THEIR EX-COACH BECOME OUR NEW LEADER 🤣😂🤣😂.... FIGHT ON!!!!✌✌✌✌
See its crap like this that amplifies the lunacy that's going on here... "sure Oklahoma has the more talented players" he said that 3 times, this is called propaganda..... this is kissing up to the cottage industry of recruiting, you have all these Oklahoma people thinking they have the horses its just a matter of breaking them in.... wrong, tcu, which isn't that great, I've seen them all year, has better "more talented" offensive lines(not by much) running backs, quarterbacks, wide receivers, and linebackers......... defensive backs are on par..... no Oklahoma isn't the most talented, Oklahoma isn't physical, at all. Oklahoma needs to take steps to being good,, not just jump straight into greatness, shows like this are why ou fans struggle with undaunting expectations, ou has good talent, middle of the road big 12 talent, recruiting services for the past decades have added a extra star to their recruits"after committing " you hear ou fans talk about Billy bowman like he's Charles Woodson,,or bo Jackson.... he's just a good player, who wouldn't start for Texas, osu or Baylor.... none of ou line would start for osu, or Baylor.... that's how far ou is behind the 8 ball,
Oklahoma has had an unbelievable run. When coaching changes happened, it was handled the right way by grooming the next guy and careful planning. And an unbelievable streak of super talented qbs.
But guess what....that's not how it happened this time. Welcome to the OU version of Charlie Strong. Average QB play and huge turnovers within the program = mediocre results. And It's a long, hard road back. I almost feel bad for you, but no sympathy or understanding was afforded Texas so y'all can expect the same in return.
I'll be traveling to Dallas this weekend hoping to see a half empty stadium from an OU fanbase bail on their team at half-time.
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