Super strong race by Parker. She kept pushing the pace. She freakin beat the course record by 16 seconds with high winds and very rainy conditions. Truly impressive race. Congrats to Parker on the win!
I been a Touhy fan for years. I think she has over worked herself. She run cross country, 1500, 3000, 5000, DMR and even ran a 10,000. Maybe she should cut down the number of races she runs.
@@tracyyoung224 Hard disagree with this analysis. Tuohy's time was extremely good today. Valby ran the course record. Tuohy was still over 23 seconds ahead of third place and 15 seconds ahead of her time from last year's meet. I can't see any way to analyze this race where I think that Tuohy ran a bad race and is burned out from track season that ended over 4 months ago.
Huge fan of both of these girls! They can push each other to bigger and more amazing performances and goals! Keep putting in the work and showing the world how great long distance running is!
Parker running tangents and tight corners, finally. She is running efficiently now and will be a tougher competitor at the top level. Congrats, Parker! 🏃♀🐊
Parker Valby appears to have jumped to another level (although no injuries helped), however; I think it was good for Tuohy to finish 2nd which will motivate her to catch up.
Valby was incredible, crushing Tuohy. I was impressed how she dominated in adverse conditions representing Florida. Her form is perfect. At last year’s NCAA she could not break Tuohy and may have won if she had not pushed the pace. Obviously running from the front is her style ala Pre. If she develops a kick, she will be devastating.
Awesome. Congrats Parker. This season is going to be metal. Katelyn came flying around that last turn like a flippin eagle. I'm so hyped up for this. And they're off! Woah!
Parker dominated at the end of track season despite working through injury. She probably deserved a number 1 ranking but I guess she had to show it on the XC course.
Finally I get to see a well delineated and "developed" cross country course! This was a great course!! For the last 10 years (at all levels-open, senior, masters, world class etc.) cross country courses have become "road races" not the way cross country courses "supposed" to be (rolling hills, flats, rough terrain, weather etc.) look at the 1980's world cross country championships and European cross country. In regards to Valpy, she was awesome, very strong and north western U always a top performer. This team is a reflection of great coaching by Jill Miller.
Outstanding athleticism on display. Never ceases to amaze me seeing these girls all running 19 and 20 minutes 6Ks. I can do a 22 on my best day, and they put me to serious shame.
So, Valby doesn't have great final sprint speed. However, she has great endurance and has definitely trained to run fast at a consistent speed - that was the best way to run her race and she nailed it. So my question about KT is that did she under-estimate PV's speed and wasn't able to kick enough to catch up, did the rain impact her confidence in kicking at the end, or have we seen PV take up another level?
Valby broke the course record. Tuohy ran 15 seconds faster than she did last year (when she won the NCAA title) and was over 23 seconds ahead of third place. This was all done in less than ideal conditions. I can't draw any conclusion that says Tuohy should've done anything more than she did, especially if you view this as a team race. I mean, Tuohy pretty much left Chmiel in the dust in order to try to keep contact. Even though Chmiel still managed third, from a team perspective I wonder if it wouldn't have been better to just let Valby go from the start. I'd love to hear what Tuohy's coach thinks.
Awesome race...awesome course....awesome ladies 👍 Big congrats to Parker Valby 👏...nice to see Katelyn running again...looking forward to more from these two
NAU women & Parker Valley made a very LOUD statement today. Not sure what is going on with Sam Bush but she didn't race like she usually does at Piane and was on the Nuttycomb Roster/Start list but DNS'd. Interestingly, if you insert Tyynisma in somewhere between 5th - 10th which is not unreasonable given her championship racing history then it is almost a dead heat between NAU and NC State (no clue as to the Fitness or health of Amaris though she has been photograped training in workouts with the team) Gonna be interesting to see how this plays out. Also noticed no Mazza-Downie for Florida (only ran 6).
Right. The question about Bush is worrying. She was the very reliable third guy in, last season. If State can get KT, Kelsey, 'Maris and Sam performing up to potential, then there's got to be SOMEBODY out there who can score in the 30-40 range for number 5. At Joe Piane Leah was 4th and Grace was 9th. I like it. Bush, by the way, was 30th.
@@Philobiblion As strong as NAU looked Friday and plug in Amaris for NC State and Mazza-Downie for Florida, it's gonna be an interesting battle at Championships. And don''t sleep on BYU.
Nuttycombe results build excitement for national championship. Touhy looked awfully calm during the race. Parker looked stronger than last year. Lets enjoy the ride :-)
Kind of sad as many if not most runners are proud to just be in these competitions but observers concentrate on the top runners and treat them as if they are falling short but in reality are accomplishing great performances whether they run first or 2nd or 7th or wherever. I think observers pick at Tuohy if she doesnt win a race. The level of work and talent to be the worlds best is unappreciated. I sure hope Tuohy can at least enjoy her efforts and ignore the pessimistic noise.
It is fun to watch Perry King's Starshine Reflections series where he has videoed all of KTs NY State races from seventh grade on. I think she started to beat Kelsey in 8th grade, then, about a year later, young Brooke Rauber comes along. Tuohy is a s tough as nails and I'm not worried about her. I just wish she'd forget about the Olympics. With the packed pro field right now she is not going to make the team this year.
When I ran cross country there was no human way a golf cart could have made it over the course. Sandy flats; stony river bottoms; semi-vertical, tree-root-riddled mounainsides; and weather-dependent water-filled drainage ditches. This more akin to a pasture walk after the hay was cut.
Transfer portal has them moving them up, but also their organic improvement has been key. Reiss moved up big time over last year with her Flagstaff training. Also, true freshman Aussie Keira Moore is going to be a force the next few years - I think she finished 18th. NAU has crazy depth as the B squad finished 1-2-3! Men's NAU team won without Colin Sahlman so who would likely be a competitor to score at the 5th spot so they can do even better later in the season. Bosley seemed bothered by the weather...never really kicked it into high gear, but he has lots of time to peak.
Competition is good! Congrats to Valby...I'm guessing she is running more besides her cross-training. Best 4 out of 7? Congrats to all who gave their best efforts. Funn and healthy~
I'm surprised no one has mentioned it, the rain 'softened' the course and that favors taller runners, particularly those like Valby with injury problems that make hard surfaces problematic. If Valby was a racehorse, she would be termed a 'mudder'. Touhy has improved since last year, as evidenced by her improved time, continuing to ascend and descend the hills better than the other runners, but the final reel-in was too little too late. This was Valby's course and Valby's day.
Has anyone seen an interview with Katelyn yet? Curious what her thoughts were on the race. Did she feel strong or feel injured? Or was Parker just at a whole new level?
So adding another comment as I've been thinking about this. How PV ran is how she's going to run every race - she has good endurance and good speed. There's no secret to how she's going to run. She's going to run strong and fast every time. She is taller and has a bit of a longer stride - not much KT can do about that. OK so KT's best time in the 5k is 15:03 which means she runs about 1k in 3 minutes. So if she had kept up that pace she would have run 18:03 (let's add a few seconds due to fatigue so 18:30 and the course). PV ran this in 19:17 (Tuohy in 19:30). Now weather was bad and KT does back off a bit in bad weather (don't blame her at all). So what's next? Not sure but all of their races should be great. Have a great season KT and PV - hope you push each other to great times. Every Bird needs a Magic and vis-a-versa.
My heart is with Katy. Losing hurts. Coming in second for someone who has consistently been the leader hurts. There will be a time for mourning, then the comeback. We shall see how much time it takes for the NC State girls to say, "No, this will not be the norm!' Parker won and will receive the rewards for this year.
Somebody got to NC State's #5, Hannah Gapes, at the 4K mark. She was back about 95th place (and your race-wide place NUMBER counts as points in CC, lower is better), and the NC State team was about 35 points behind NAU at that point. She gobbled up 33 places. A coach with access to the live feed probably was yelling "you need to catch those 40 gals and we win!"... And she charged off to do it! She did what she could, but NAU was not going to be beat that day.
Katelyn now has some new targets. Although she ran 15 seconds faster at Nuttycombe than last year, Valby ran 30 seconds faster thn Tuogy's time last year. Tuohy will have to think about running at least 10-20 seonds faster than last year in each event which has Valby running;. That means less races and faster times.
That was certainly a good run by Parker. Has she got a new coach? Her previous coach seemed to be clueless. Parker has had the advantage of a target in front of her for over a year (Katelyn), thus something to aim for. As for KT, she is the superlative champion and has been for 7 years. This performance will only bring out the best in her in the future since she's had virtually no competition for her entire running career. I wonder whether they'll both be at the ACC in two weeks. In any case this duo will likely bring some amazing performances in the coming year. I was glad to see the two of them hug at the end, very gracious on the part of both of them.
Congratulations to Parker, she deserved this win... Not sure what’s going on with Katelyn Tuohy, she hasn’t been running lately, and definitely does not seem as dominant as she was a year or two ago.
At the end of last year, continuing into this year Miss Tuohy seems to be a bit off, her speed reduced. It could be she is in a cycle of training, overtraining, where second place is acceptable but not Katelyn's goal. My guess and I certainly could be wrong, is that Katelyn is training for nationals. We have to wait and see if this is the case. I thought she should have transferred after last year's fiasco in the 1500. I don't mean to be controversial AvocatDude
My girl, KT didn't look like she really wanted to be there. It was a miserable day, and she was just jogging at one point. Taking nothing away from Valby, she blistered it, congrats to her!
Just jogging. To what would have been a course record if Valby hadn't broken it first. Also a big Tuohy fan but she was pushed hard today, got to give Valby credit.
Yeah, they both were way under last year's time. I was referring to a point I think around maybe 3k when Touhy seemed to be really bogged down. Someone else commented that Touhy came around the last turn " like a friggin eagle ", which was accurate. The only thing else I have noticed is between Jacksonville and Austin something happened and she hasn't seemed to be herself, she did run well at the US tournament where she finished 7th beating some olympians.
This was KT's first race of the season. To me, she didn't look comfortable; she didn't have her normal poise and command presence. My impression was that she was running a time more than an all-out full-gas attempt to win. In the last k, once she saw that Parker was not going to fade and that the race was out of reach, she backed off. My prediction is that at ACCs she will ratchet it up a notch, and then another notch at regionals. In five weeks Parker is not going to run away from her like she did on Friday. If she does, it means something is up with Katelyn, because when she is in fighting trim, she should be able to beat Parker any day of the week. Tuohy is a 15:03 runner (five months ago). Parker's PB is 15:20, 16 months ago. That said, Parker did look great. I think they're both thinking deeply about Doris and Hilda. On Friday Hilda beat Doris by a fraction of a second at Alabama's Crimson Classic home meet.
Parker literally just beat her handily head to head. You can’t just assume Katelyn will be better at NCAAs and Parker won’t be. You compared 5k times but conveniently ignored their 6k xc times. Valby has run 18:25 compared to 19:08 from Tuohy. Valby also just ran a course record 19:17 here at Nuttcombe in bad conditions. That’s 12 seconds better than Tuohy and 27 seconds better than Tuohy’s time here from a year ago. It’s clear from this race that Valby is healthier and in better form than last year. This was the best performance of her career, and she is the clear favorite to win in November.
"Clear favorites" aren't decided on one race. Parker had a great race, but it was obvious early from Katelyn's facial demeanor, the edge and effortlessness was not there today for her. I suspect Virginia will be different. Hope both stay injury free to push one another. These 2 are the faces of American Distance running going forward. @@LaxStixTactics
@@LaxStixTactics You make good points. But looking at the trajectory of their careers, Tuohy is a generational runner; she has proved that already: owning the NCAA indoor 1500, mile and 3000 and the outdoor 5000, breaking a 14 year old record. Parker is a great runner who I predict will peak in mid-collegiate career and then never reach that apex again. But we shall see. I believe Katelyn, in her incremental improvement from season to season, starting in 7th grade, is not merely the outstanding athlete of the season, but, if she chooses to pursue pro running, a very rare runner on a scale with Emily Sisson, Elise Cranny, Jenny Simpson, Shalane Flannagan, Whittni Morgan, Alicia Monson and a few others I could name if my memory were not failing because of age. Obviously. on Friday, Parker was the more fit runner; she won, and good for her. I hope, and would pray, if I were religious, that Parker stays healthy. ( I do surround her with warm, healing light).) Looking ahead, I think a few things in this order: 1) Henes' full time obsession is in running auditions for a fifth guy in who can break 35. If Tyynismaa is healthy and at potential, and Sam Bush (a worry) can make her last two year's result, then the Wolfpack is looking, as usual for a fifth guy in at whatever it needs to be to win. Last year Brookie was 90th, scoring 78 to cop the title. Scoring 78 she was actually the first 5th guy in out of the other 30 teams after the Lobos.. But this year, NAU is the monster, and even with, let's say 3-4-9, and 15 to 20, the Pack will need a fifth guy who scores below 35 to beat NAU. Stephens? Loveys? Quarzo? Napoleon? Who knows? Brooke's 90th place isn't going to cut it this year, no matter if Katelyn is first, second or third..
@@Philobiblion I’m not arguing that Parker has had a better career or that she’ll go on to have more success in the future. Obviously Katelyn has accomplished more up until this and I agree that she’ll probably go on to have a better professional career as well. My argument was specifically about this cross country season. My main point was simply that based on how good Parker looked in this race and based on her prior cross country credentials and the fact that she finally looks fully healthy, I believe that she’s the favorite to win the national meet in November. Obviously things can change, and I’m sure it will be a great race regardless of who ultimately wins. As far as the team race goes, it should be a great battle between NAU and NC State, and the health/form of Bush and Tyynismaa will definitely be a major factor. I also wouldn’t count out BYU, as they looked absolutely phenomenal this past weekend at pre-nationals.
@@LaxStixTactics Repeating is hard. I think since they went to 6k in 2000 only three people have done it: Shalane, Sally Kipyego (who three-peated) and Sheila Reid most recently in 2010-11. I want to see what KT does at ACCs and regionals. If she wins both then I will look for her to win at NCAAs. If she loses one or both, then I would have to go with either Parker, Hilda or Doris.
Omg so excited to watch this! I'm a fan of both Tuohy and Valby. I was hoping for Valby to win once against Tuohy so I was so hyped to watch this. Anyway, did anyone see that at 10:39 or so as they ran down the hill, Valby kept swatting her arms towards Tuohy. Is that cheating or is it some way of communicating or something else?
I don't think so. It was a downhill section and when a runner gets rolling fast downhill, they have to exaggerrate some arm swing to keep the torso from pitching over. Pretty sure they don't have a nasty rivalry where they'd be smacking each other, it'd be out of character for both runners.
Love valby, I'm a valby girl always rooting for her. Finally she's winning for real. People stop making excuses tuohy peaked. And valby is peaking right dang now!!!!
Tuohy needs to watch some film and get her arms working evenly... Her right arm hangs lower and doesn't flow with her motion. Parker looks perfect in comparison.
Brilliant the winner Valby, also good run Toohey as well, surprised how fast the pack finished not very far back, alot of good runners out there. Course record by 16sec meant most of those girls were flying, should be a great CC year ahead.
Parker has improved since last year. Last year she bounced too much. This year she is using her stride to push forward. Good for Parker! It looked to me Touey broke the record as well .
Looks like a little arm swatting on that hill around 10:38. Amy Bunnage slipped back to a 13th place finish after a brave push up front with the big girls.
The two winners almost " walked " across the finish line ? This is giving it all you have ????? Then walk around as if they never ran ???? Rather sad !
Why does Valby swing out at Tuohy (10:38) and again after? I know we were always told "let them know you are there" but I never thought of swinging a hand at another runner - it was more like get close with an elbow or a subtle nudge - not swinging fists. Probably I'm over reacting.
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Super strong race by Parker. She kept pushing the pace. She freakin beat the course record by 16 seconds with high winds and very rainy conditions. Truly impressive race. Congrats to Parker on the win!
This might be Parker’s year
hope so !!@@lunarsabbatical7906
Absolute TOTAL BULLSHIT. Parker faced Driving Rain and Wind and she ran through Boggy Grass and MUD. She still has the Record at Nuttycombe!!!
Big Tuohy fan here. Congrats to Parker - she killed it!! She was on a mission,. and the better runner won today, and in convincing fashion.
Also a tuohy fan and I agree
Amazing Valby like her own pacer.
I been a Touhy fan for years.
I think she has over worked herself.
She run cross country, 1500, 3000, 5000, DMR and even ran a 10,000.
Maybe she should cut down the number of races she runs.
@@tracyyoung224 but she has cut down this season I think she’s tapering for the trials.
@@tracyyoung224 Hard disagree with this analysis. Tuohy's time was extremely good today. Valby ran the course record. Tuohy was still over 23 seconds ahead of third place and 15 seconds ahead of her time from last year's meet. I can't see any way to analyze this race where I think that Tuohy ran a bad race and is burned out from track season that ended over 4 months ago.
Huge fan of both of these girls! They can push each other to bigger and more amazing performances and goals! Keep putting in the work and showing the world how great long distance running is!
Parker running tangents and tight corners, finally. She is running efficiently now and will be a tougher competitor at the top level. Congrats, Parker! 🏃♀🐊
Unfortunately they seem be taking turns running inefficiently. KT refused to draft off her nearly the whole race
Parker Valby appears to have jumped to another level (although no injuries helped), however; I think it was good for Tuohy to finish 2nd which will motivate her to catch up.
she actually sat out the whole indoor season. she changed up her training a little bit and obviously it make a big difference. this was parkers season
She didn’t
Great race! Hope Valby can stay healthy for a full season.
Valby was incredible, crushing Tuohy. I was impressed how she dominated in adverse conditions representing Florida. Her form is perfect. At last year’s NCAA she could not break Tuohy and may have won if she had not pushed the pace. Obviously running from the front is her style ala Pre. If she develops a kick, she will be devastating.
Awesome. Congrats Parker. This season is going to be metal. Katelyn came flying around that last turn like a flippin eagle. I'm so hyped up for this. And they're off! Woah!
Wow, great race. Congrats to Parker Valby, the new coaches are making her even better.
So happy for Parker Valby! She finally figured out a strategy, and she pulled it off and beat her nemesis. Way to go Parker!!!!
Katelyn cut 15 seconds off last years winning time and still got buried. Oh well.
Thank you for posting. Very nice coverage. Great run by Parker Valby. 💪🏼
Parker dominated at the end of track season despite working through injury. She probably deserved a number 1 ranking but I guess she had to show it on the XC course.
It's what you do in November that makes them remember.
Finally I get to see a well delineated and "developed" cross country course! This was a great course!! For the last 10 years (at all levels-open, senior, masters, world class etc.) cross country courses have become "road races" not the way cross country courses "supposed" to be (rolling hills, flats, rough terrain, weather etc.) look at the 1980's world cross country championships and European cross country. In regards to Valpy, she was awesome, very strong and north western U always a top performer. This team is a reflection of great coaching by Jill Miller.
This reads like ChatGPT. Very confidently stating utter nonsense.
Real cross country would cross water and not be on nice grassy fields, we don't have real cross country courses.
Good to see Parker no longer injured.
Outstanding athleticism on display. Never ceases to amaze me seeing these girls all running 19 and 20 minutes 6Ks. I can do a 22 on my best day, and they put me to serious shame.
To be the best, you gotta beat the best. Well done, Parker. Great race, both.
Amazing race! Congrats to Valby. What a way to win..
So, Valby doesn't have great final sprint speed. However, she has great endurance and has definitely trained to run fast at a consistent speed - that was the best way to run her race and she nailed it. So my question about KT is that did she under-estimate PV's speed and wasn't able to kick enough to catch up, did the rain impact her confidence in kicking at the end, or have we seen PV take up another level?
I think Touhy waited too long to sprint, and underestimated Valby a little
Parker Valby is now on another level AND injury free so far
Valby broke the course record. Tuohy ran 15 seconds faster than she did last year (when she won the NCAA title) and was over 23 seconds ahead of third place. This was all done in less than ideal conditions. I can't draw any conclusion that says Tuohy should've done anything more than she did, especially if you view this as a team race. I mean, Tuohy pretty much left Chmiel in the dust in order to try to keep contact. Even though Chmiel still managed third, from a team perspective I wonder if it wouldn't have been better to just let Valby go from the start. I'd love to hear what Tuohy's coach thinks.
Hard to say. Valby might just be in better shape right now.
@@ljn5232She probably is. This is her year to finally get an individual title in xc, if she can hold off Tuohy!
Awesome race...awesome course....awesome ladies 👍
Big congrats to Parker Valby 👏...nice to see Katelyn running again...looking forward to more from these two
Fabulous, thank you so much. My wife and I love watching you. Keep it up.
dang, based on their history if Parker won I thought Tuohy would be a lot closer, I didn't think she would blow her away like this.
NAU women & Parker Valley made a very LOUD statement today. Not sure what is going on with Sam Bush but she didn't race like she usually does at Piane and was on the Nuttycomb Roster/Start list but DNS'd. Interestingly, if you insert Tyynisma in somewhere between 5th - 10th which is not unreasonable given her championship racing history then it is almost a dead heat between NAU and NC State (no clue as to the Fitness or health of Amaris though she has been photograped training in workouts with the team) Gonna be interesting to see how this plays out. Also noticed no Mazza-Downie for Florida (only ran 6).
hlooked like Katelyn was kicking and had faster turnover but she didn't close. Parker put the hammer down.
Right. The question about Bush is worrying. She was the very reliable third guy in, last season. If State can get KT, Kelsey, 'Maris and Sam performing up to potential, then there's got to be SOMEBODY out there who can score in the 30-40 range for number 5. At Joe Piane Leah was 4th and Grace was 9th. I like it. Bush, by the way, was 30th.
@@Philobiblion As strong as NAU looked Friday and plug in Amaris for NC State and Mazza-Downie for Florida, it's gonna be an interesting battle at Championships. And don''t sleep on BYU.
Parker being Parker, just sets her pace doesn't look back, doesn't really even seem to care about the rest of the field, found her zone.
Nuttycombe results build excitement for national championship. Touhy looked awfully calm during the race. Parker looked stronger than last year. Lets enjoy the ride :-)
Kind of sad as many if not most runners are proud to just be in these competitions but observers concentrate on the top runners and treat them as if they are falling short but in reality are accomplishing great performances whether they run first or 2nd or 7th or wherever. I think observers pick at Tuohy if she doesnt win a race. The level of work and talent to be the worlds best is unappreciated. I sure hope Tuohy can at least enjoy her efforts and ignore the pessimistic noise.
It is fun to watch Perry King's Starshine Reflections series where he has videoed all of KTs NY State races from seventh grade on. I think she started to beat Kelsey in 8th grade, then, about a year later, young Brooke Rauber comes along. Tuohy is a s tough as nails and I'm not worried about her. I just wish she'd forget about the Olympics. With the packed pro field right now she is not going to make the team this year.
Love to see her healthy, the comp between her and Tuohy firing on all cylinders should be epic this year, will likely bring out each other's best.
When I ran cross country there was no human way a golf cart could have made it over the course. Sandy flats; stony river bottoms; semi-vertical, tree-root-riddled mounainsides; and weather-dependent water-filled drainage ditches.
This more akin to a pasture walk after the hay was cut.
Valby said no way am I coming second today , great job and the level of fitness showed
Tuohy-Valby is turning into the Federer-Nadal of this sport.
Wow nau made huge jump this years crazy!
Transfer portal has them moving them up, but also their organic improvement has been key. Reiss moved up big time over last year with her Flagstaff training. Also, true freshman Aussie Keira Moore is going to be a force the next few years - I think she finished 18th. NAU has crazy depth as the B squad finished 1-2-3! Men's NAU team won without Colin Sahlman so who would likely be a competitor to score at the 5th spot so they can do even better later in the season. Bosley seemed bothered by the weather...never really kicked it into high gear, but he has lots of time to peak.
VB absolutely dominant. Looks like she's 100% healthy once again.
Competition is good! Congrats to Valby...I'm guessing she is running more besides her cross-training. Best 4 out of 7? Congrats to all who gave their best efforts. Funn and healthy~
I'm surprised no one has mentioned it, the rain 'softened' the course and that favors taller runners, particularly those like Valby with injury problems that make hard surfaces problematic. If Valby was a racehorse, she would be termed a 'mudder'. Touhy has improved since last year, as evidenced by her improved time, continuing to ascend and descend the hills better than the other runners, but the final reel-in was too little too late. This was Valby's course and Valby's day.
Has anyone seen an interview with Katelyn yet? Curious what her thoughts were on the race. Did she feel strong or feel injured? Or was Parker just at a whole new level?
KT was sick, wish two girls has a close finish on next match
NAU women also went 1-2-3 in the B race. Have to be the deepest team in the NCAA right now by a lot.
Wow NAU women have improved so much! Congratulations to them!
So adding another comment as I've been thinking about this. How PV ran is how she's going to run every race - she has good endurance and good speed. There's no secret to how she's going to run. She's going to run strong and fast every time. She is taller and has a bit of a longer stride - not much KT can do about that. OK so KT's best time in the 5k is 15:03 which means she runs about 1k in 3 minutes. So if she had kept up that pace she would have run 18:03 (let's add a few seconds due to fatigue so 18:30 and the course). PV ran this in 19:17 (Tuohy in 19:30). Now weather was bad and KT does back off a bit in bad weather (don't blame her at all). So what's next? Not sure but all of their races should be great. Have a great season KT and PV - hope you push each other to great times. Every Bird needs a Magic and vis-a-versa.
WIN or LOSE ...
Still is Katelyn Touhy for me.
My heart is with Katy. Losing hurts. Coming in second for someone who has consistently been the leader hurts. There will be a time for mourning, then the comeback. We shall see how much time it takes for the NC State girls to say, "No, this will not be the norm!' Parker won and will receive the rewards for this year.
Somebody got to NC State's #5, Hannah Gapes, at the 4K mark.
She was back about 95th place (and your race-wide place NUMBER counts as points in CC, lower is better), and the NC State team was about 35 points behind NAU at that point.
She gobbled up 33 places. A coach with access to the live feed probably was yelling "you need to catch those 40 gals and we win!"... And she charged off to do it! She did what she could, but NAU was not going to be beat that day.
valby has great form on hills and turns
Parker Valby the most beautiful athlete in college racing...
Congratulation Parker, awesome to see you injury free.
These Announcers are great!
Kara Goucher is really good. Also, Carrie Tollefson, who should be doing NCAAs.
Congratulations Parker Valby! Great race!
I'ma touhy fan but seeing valby run so well is just fine😊❤
Wire to wire with determination and focus! Way to go Parker.
Valby may have broken through vs Touhy with this one.
Parker is both a beauty AND a beast!
Very, very convincing performance from Valby in subpar conditions. She looked very dominant here.
We will see in five weeks.
Parker Valby really does a phenomenal job of running during this race I was very impressed by her run even though I am a Katlin Tohey fan
@@NOTREALLYHANKAARON hey I can’t spell but I am still entitled to my own opinion your a big 🌂
And now an Olympian!
Katelyn now has some new targets. Although she ran 15 seconds faster at Nuttycombe than last year, Valby ran 30 seconds faster thn Tuogy's time last year. Tuohy will have to think about running at least 10-20 seonds faster than last year in each event which has Valby running;. That means less races and faster times.
Last year, it seemed that Valby was much weaker on the hills than Tuohy. Not this time. It's going to be a great competition again this season.
Wow! Parker is healthy and motoring.
Great stuff Parker Valby!!
Nice to see her healthy again!
They are all beautiful and athletic.
Dang NAU was a beast
Great job girls! Respect
That was certainly a good run by Parker. Has she got a new coach? Her previous coach seemed to be clueless. Parker has had the advantage of a target in front of her for over a year (Katelyn), thus something to aim for. As for KT, she is the superlative champion and has been for 7 years. This performance will only bring out the best in her in the future since she's had virtually no competition for her entire running career. I wonder whether they'll both be at the ACC in two weeks. In any case this duo will likely bring some amazing performances in the coming year. I was glad to see the two of them hug at the end, very gracious on the part of both of them.
Florida is in the SEC so no Parker won't be at ACCs
Congratulations to Parker, she deserved this win... Not sure what’s going on with Katelyn Tuohy, she hasn’t been running lately, and definitely does not seem as dominant as she was a year or two ago.
At the end of last year, continuing into this year Miss Tuohy seems to be a bit off, her speed reduced. It could be she is in a cycle of training, overtraining, where second place is acceptable but not Katelyn's goal. My guess and I certainly could be wrong, is that Katelyn is training for nationals. We have to wait and see if this is the case. I thought she should have transferred after last year's fiasco in the 1500. I don't mean to be controversial AvocatDude
My girl, KT didn't look like she really wanted to be there. It was a miserable day, and she was just jogging at one point. Taking nothing away from Valby, she blistered it, congrats to her!
Just jogging. To what would have been a course record if Valby hadn't broken it first. Also a big Tuohy fan but she was pushed hard today, got to give Valby credit.
Yeah, they both were way under last year's time. I was referring to a point I think around maybe 3k when Touhy seemed to be really bogged down. Someone else commented that Touhy came around the last turn " like a friggin eagle ", which was accurate. The only thing else I have noticed is between Jacksonville and Austin something happened and she hasn't seemed to be herself, she did run well at the US tournament where she finished 7th beating some olympians.
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This was KT's first race of the season. To me, she didn't look comfortable; she didn't have her normal poise and command presence. My impression was that she was running a time more than an all-out full-gas attempt to win. In the last k, once she saw that Parker was not going to fade and that the race was out of reach, she backed off. My prediction is that at ACCs she will ratchet it up a notch, and then another notch at regionals. In five weeks Parker is not going to run away from her like she did on Friday. If she does, it means something is up with Katelyn, because when she is in fighting trim, she should be able to beat Parker any day of the week. Tuohy is a 15:03 runner (five months ago). Parker's PB is 15:20, 16 months ago. That said, Parker did look great. I think they're both thinking deeply about Doris and Hilda. On Friday Hilda beat Doris by a fraction of a second at Alabama's Crimson Classic home meet.
Parker literally just beat her handily head to head. You can’t just assume Katelyn will be better at NCAAs and Parker won’t be. You compared 5k times but conveniently ignored their 6k xc times. Valby has run 18:25 compared to 19:08 from Tuohy. Valby also just ran a course record 19:17 here at Nuttcombe in bad conditions. That’s 12 seconds better than Tuohy and 27 seconds better than Tuohy’s time here from a year ago. It’s clear from this race that Valby is healthier and in better form than last year. This was the best performance of her career, and she is the clear favorite to win in November.
"Clear favorites" aren't decided on one race. Parker had a great race, but it was obvious early from Katelyn's facial demeanor, the edge and effortlessness was not there today for her. I suspect Virginia will be different. Hope both stay injury free to push one another. These 2 are the faces of American Distance running going forward. @@LaxStixTactics
@@LaxStixTactics You make good points. But looking at the trajectory of their careers, Tuohy is a generational runner; she has proved that already: owning the NCAA indoor 1500, mile and 3000 and the outdoor 5000, breaking a 14 year old record. Parker is a great runner who I predict will peak in mid-collegiate career and then never reach that apex again. But we shall see. I believe Katelyn, in her incremental improvement from season to season, starting in 7th grade, is not merely the outstanding athlete of the season, but, if she chooses to pursue pro running, a very rare runner on a scale with Emily Sisson, Elise Cranny, Jenny Simpson, Shalane Flannagan, Whittni Morgan, Alicia Monson and a few others I could name if my memory were not failing because of age. Obviously. on Friday, Parker was the more fit runner; she won, and good for her. I hope, and would pray, if I were religious, that Parker stays healthy. ( I do surround her with warm, healing light).)
Looking ahead, I think a few things in this order: 1) Henes' full time obsession is in running auditions for a fifth guy in who can break 35. If Tyynismaa is healthy and at potential, and Sam Bush (a worry) can make her last two year's result, then the Wolfpack is looking, as usual for a fifth guy in at whatever it needs to be to win. Last year Brookie was 90th, scoring 78 to cop the title. Scoring 78 she was actually the first 5th guy in out of the other 30 teams after the Lobos.. But this year, NAU is the monster, and even with, let's say 3-4-9, and 15 to 20, the Pack will need a fifth guy who scores below 35 to beat NAU. Stephens? Loveys? Quarzo? Napoleon? Who knows? Brooke's 90th place isn't going to cut it this year, no matter if Katelyn is first, second or third..
@@Philobiblion I’m not arguing that Parker has had a better career or that she’ll go on to have more success in the future. Obviously Katelyn has accomplished more up until this and I agree that she’ll probably go on to have a better professional career as well. My argument was specifically about this cross country season. My main point was simply that based on how good Parker looked in this race and based on her prior cross country credentials and the fact that she finally looks fully healthy, I believe that she’s the favorite to win the national meet in November. Obviously things can change, and I’m sure it will be a great race regardless of who ultimately wins.
As far as the team race goes, it should be a great battle between NAU and NC State, and the health/form of Bush and Tyynismaa will definitely be a major factor. I also wouldn’t count out BYU, as they looked absolutely phenomenal this past weekend at pre-nationals.
@@LaxStixTactics Repeating is hard. I think since they went to 6k in 2000 only three people have done it: Shalane, Sally Kipyego (who three-peated) and Sheila Reid most recently in 2010-11. I want to see what KT does at ACCs and regionals. If she wins both then I will look for her to win at NCAAs. If she loses one or both, then I would have to go with either Parker, Hilda or Doris.
Omg so excited to watch this! I'm a fan of both Tuohy and Valby. I was hoping for Valby to win once against Tuohy so I was so hyped to watch this. Anyway, did anyone see that at 10:39 or so as they ran down the hill, Valby kept swatting her arms towards Tuohy. Is that cheating or is it some way of communicating or something else?
I don't think so. It was a downhill section and when a runner gets rolling fast downhill, they have to exaggerrate some arm swing to keep the torso from pitching over. Pretty sure they don't have a nasty rivalry where they'd be smacking each other, it'd be out of character for both runners.
Valby never turned around to see where Tuohy was, even after she crossed the finish line.
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Love valby, I'm a valby girl always rooting for her. Finally she's winning for real. People stop making excuses tuohy peaked. And valby is peaking right dang now!!!!
Me too, but don’t count Tuohy out.
Being a cyling fan my question was will the peloton reel in the breakaway?
Nope
So happy for Parker.
She could improve more if she had her posture fixed.Her body tilts to her right all the time.Her shoulders aren't level.
HOW DARE YOU cut the valdy interview end of race!!!!😢😮😅😊
🥶 the full interview is here th-cam.com/video/lzKDcFrSsiA/w-d-xo.html
Wow love the massive field and start. Looks like English countryside.
Parker 6:25, 6:35, 6:17 2k splits. Wow!
Strong running!
This was Parker’s due,she has earned it and shows what fortitude is all about.
Great race...
Great job Parker!! 🐊🐊
There were alot of VB hater KT fans some giving praise to PV they should apologize 1st
Tuohy needs to watch some film and get her arms working evenly... Her right arm hangs lower and doesn't flow with her motion. Parker looks perfect in comparison.
Brilliant the winner Valby, also good run Toohey as well, surprised how fast the pack finished not very far back, alot of good runners out there. Course record by 16sec meant most of those girls were flying, should be a great CC year ahead.
katelyn's time last year was 19:45.
Get your stuff together KT
Parker has improved since last year. Last year she bounced too much. This year she is using her stride to push forward. Good for Parker!
It looked to me Touey broke the record as well .
Interesting distance 6k???
This is the rivalry for this season. You know KT will get her on the next....which is nationals?
Looks like a little arm swatting on that hill around 10:38. Amy Bunnage slipped back to a 13th place finish after a brave push up front with the big girls.
The downhill looked very slippery. Looks like their arms extended outward for balance??
the only thing better than running in the rain is running in the snow
You're a sicko, but I agree. I guess that makes me a sicko too.
The two winners almost " walked " across the finish line ? This is giving it all you have ????? Then walk around as if they never ran ???? Rather sad !
Tuohy may have lost, but neither of them looked that tired.
Who’s building with greater wisdom? Parker was troubled last year with a nagging leg injury. Time will tell.
Why does Valby swing out at Tuohy (10:38) and again after? I know we were always told "let them know you are there" but I never thought of swinging a hand at another runner - it was more like get close with an elbow or a subtle nudge - not swinging fists. Probably I'm over reacting.
Nice one.@@Tigerex966
I never understood why the women didnt run the same distance as the men.
VALBYMANIA IS RUNNING WILD!
As a nuttycombe i am suprised americans can pronounce it semi correctly! though it more like nutty coom, the be being a viking derivative for farm!
Haha gentle rise. More like excruciating incline
Parker and Katelyn both finish like it was just a speedwork. Neither gassed. hmmm
First race of the season for Tuohy. She was not about to red-line.