This format is PERFECT- thank you! Please always do them this way! Would love to screenshot a chart that shows an S tier “only if melee or non-vats, etc”
The armor mod version of this video is the one i really want, not using most of my 4 star armor mods until i know all the little details of how they all truly work, till then they staying in my stash box.
So real, I am literally, just trading and waiting before I even bother buying or using any 4 star mod boxes, and I am very glad I did wait, since I was going to try conductors to make a VATS build, and thankfully Angry Turtle made this video, likely saving me a glowing mask or more. Real shame Bethesda can't make a proper description, but better safe than sorry
Reflective is S tier - Do not sleep on this one - When equipped (Full set 5 pcs) and paired with a Vampires weapon you will be invincible (except for ultracite mole miner 🤣)
Been wondering which ones to look out for. A friend of mine has two pyromaniacs, one in his cremator and one on his holy fire and they both absolutely decimate everything.
AT, I’ve been using Vulcan Power Armor’s Ultracite Bracer mod. Although the description says that only melee applies poison and rad damage, it seemed that any time of damage (guns, explosive, ricochet damage) also applies the poison and rad damage. I think it will pair really well with Viper if using Vulcan Ultracite Bracer
I agree 99%. The only one I disagree with is Combo Breakers. Here me out before saying I'm nuts. On regular melee weapons. Trash. F tier. Throw it in the garbage. On Auto Axe, its actually not bad. Console players like myself can't spam canned coffee as easily to keep our AP up during Auto Axe DPS phases, so this helps offset that. Combined with Optimized Bracers on PA, you never run out of AP during a DPS phase. So for that use case, and that use case only, I'd but it in B tier. That all being said, the second I get Pounders, I'm replacing Combo Breakers lol. Also I personally would put Polished in S because of weapons deterioration being so low when used with Durability, so its fairly easy to get it to 60% and just sit there for a long time, but I do get why its A because its competing with Pin Pointers. Also I need to know if Aegis stacks like I think it does like ASAP. Im either using full Aegis or 1 Aegis and 4 Relective. But im not using my boxes until I get the definitive answer it stacks.
Pin-Pointers on a V63 Laser Carbine with Bloodied/Rapid/VATS Optimized shreads. Also, Electrician's is damn near S tier on a Flame Arrow modded Bow with whatever other Legendary effects you like, if you also put on the Grenadier Perk Card. Each time you nock an arrow, it goes off. Stunning everything within a pretty huge area around you.
Electricians could be fun with Blackpowder weapons. Not BiS, but for people that just like to solo roam, who aren't looking to min/max, it definitely has a use.
Thanks for all of your testing! I'm even more unclear as to what the armor pieces do based on the descriptions, so I'm really looking forward to that video
Very much like this format, was waiting for this video and also armor/power armor 4* (I wanna know how good Aegis is on a full set compared to Tanky's). Can confirm stabilizer's adds some accuracy, I threw it on my Fixer to try and mitigate the kickback it has compared to the handmade. It felt like more shots were hitting that would've missed before.
Excellent explanation of each legendary effect. Thank you very much however one way that you can improve this list is get rid of the picture of the box mod the lower half just chop it off we don't need to see that let us see the name and make it bigger in your tier list so that possibly we could take a screenshot and keep it on hand. I hope this is possible it would make it a lot easier to go buy your tier list when organizing mods thanks again
Nice informative tier list Turtle 👍. Can you do a video on the new ap costs of heavy weapons? Especially the LMG, the ap cost is higher than what the patch notes claim and I don't know if it's the same for other heavy weapons. I really want attention brought to this and I hope I'm not the only one.
Wait, so Polished; is the entire 60% buff effectively 0% at 101%-200%? It was my understanding through use that it was like… 60% bonus 100%-200% with it staring to dip under 99%. I’ve been using Improved repair kits and 200% repairs and I just never noticed damage decrease or change until I’m in the actual sub100 territory. Taking it to 150% during raids and I see no notable drop-offs until about 80-90%. This is on both a Gauss Minigun and Plasma Gat. I’ve been doing a lot of Robot fights and Polished were among the first couple 4* mods I got lol. But I guess it’s possible I just never noticed correctly?
@@booch138 Polished is an odd duck, though, I will say its second only to Pin Pointers, and when it's at 60% it's technically better. Though I don't know the exact bands for damage buff, since my Bloodied Explosive Gat Plas has never been below 150% since the durability change, at 199% it will have 60% and currently right now at around 150% I'm getting 48%. I wish it worked at 60% for the duration the weapon was at any % above 100. That would make it the best 4 star hands down. The buff doesn't show on the weapon which is an odd choice. Instead the Polished buff is visible when you inspect your currently active effects. So if you ever are wondering what type of buff you're getting, that's where to look. It took me awhile to figure that one out.
yeah its a somewhat easy condition works on flamers, cremator, hellstorm and lots of melee and energy weapon options that can have some fire damage like auto axe and gatling laser
I put Electrician's on my Quad, damage while aiming, +3 INT tesla. Everyone hates the Tesla reload at Rad Rumble. Now I love that my reload will still tag enemies.
Thanks 🐢. I got all the mods for Vulcan. I got help from your community. I got a OE/luck/thru-hiker/3 limited breakers and 2 Rejuvenated . Awesome stuff
Another problem with polished is you can't repair a weapon above 100%. So there is a frustrating time when it's like 120% and you can't do anything about it during the raid.
@@expertmercenary645 from what I'm seeing being at 150 only gives 30% damage boost. So yeah you can boost it that far on the fly. But to me it's so much of a hassle for a short lives 10% bonus over pin pointers which is just a set and forget. You're always gonna target weak points. Except of course it doesn't work vs the robot if that matters to you. And honestly pin pointers seems to do more than 50% damage.
I am SOO glad u didn't grade me in school.... U gave my FAVORITE, Fracturer's, an F cause it bothers ur eyes or something, but me and my Vampire mini-Shredder( GodShmack ) LOVE THE HELL outta this one, and I could care less about "seeing" whatever's standing in front of it. I have a pretty good Idea about it's Current State....
Added to my Quad Explosive Durabilty Blackpowder and Dragon. Decimates everything and definitely doesn't do only 50 damage. Makes the build crowd control. I dare him to add Battleloaders, which this build requires, to F Tier.
I put a bully's on my explosive anti armor gauss gatlin. Works well enough. I got boiling point, pyromaniac is awesome. Can't wait to get one for my holy fire. Waiting to see the armor their list. I threw miasma on a one star set of regenerating thorn armor for the stage two defense. If I can hold aggro it works pretty good. Running a heavy gunner's explosive swapping in the boiling point. Bleed and burn dps. The explosion from the miasma aggros and has a knock back to it.
About the format question... a nice mix of both the tier list like this AND some in-game video showcasing the best highlights would be ideal, instead of the either/or option imho.
Hmm wouldn’t comb-breaker work well on high ap weapons like the enclave epr? Cuts the ap cost in half. Also the enclave flamer has to be good with pryo and long as you have the betta wave cap. Lastly someone needs to try pounders with a drill. If you hit 1000x in vats with a drill. Even more broken.
I like the format, I agree that Electrician is a B tier but, I really like it on tesla thematicaly and it's a really powerful CC effect on anything other than bosses. Great for Drill defense, and defense Events. I wish Bully would work as advertised similary with Pin-pointer, just applying damage modifier on the enemies weak spot.
Since "Polished" also applies to Grenades thrown with the weapon equipped, would that allow Nuka Grenades to once again 1 shot level 100 Super Mutants in West Tek with an Instigating Submachine Gun with an Armor Piercing Reciever?
I run Pinpointers on both my Q/25/25 Fixer and Railway and it’s absolutely huge. I tried Polished as well but didn’t like it as much and felt a consistent 50% damage is always better. And yes it works on Head in VATS! S tier for me.
Is pyromaniac worth putting on a UGL or a gat plasma? My plasma is named frank horrigans gat its super strong alrrady, i dont use flamers often although i have a very good one
I put it on the UGL its like the AK for energy weapon in this game it can do anything, not and punch pretty hard, can notice a significant difference in dps , although the gat plasma is my fav dps wep, but the UGL is my vamp main with Pyro 4 star
So do make stabilised make 2-shot usable out of VATS? And do it make shotgun spread significantly tighter? Only in Fallout are eyes apendiges, I would worry that gets changed sooner or later Do icemans slow group of enemies if you use those legendary perks those cause explosions by melee? I like concept of team support effects, I with there was more of those
I need to correct you. "Electrician's" DOES work on enemies in the Raid just not the bosses or Ultragenetic enemies, my friend runs this in Part 2 and 3 and it stuns the moles attacking the drill AND the repair bots, they can single handedly defend the drill alone.
so pyromanic and viper do have effect only on the type dammage or all kind of damage?for example flamed cutter have energy,fire and balistic(or ongly ballistic and fire don t remember), pyro boost only fire damage or also the other?I ask cause I got the snake sword and it have viper effect but the damage(the number) is always the same. I will wait for the armor 4 star effect tier list, I ve seen some really good
Good morning Angry turtle. You need to try electricians on bows. It works. Also. Try it on the legendary bloodied lever action. (The gun that does that thing.)
Was waiting for this Thanks turtle! They should change electricians to act like crusaders and deal damage. Why would you want to stun a creature if you could just kill them.
Here's something to test. Since the Minigun Shredder falls outside the category of Auto Melee, it SHOULD benefit from the full 50% effect from Combo-breaker. Also, Electricians is an interesting effect combined with single ammo weapons like the thirst zapper, as well as the assaultron head which can trigger the effect for every charge-reload. Edit: If combo breaker can only be applied to melee weapons, then the first point is invalid.
I was scrolling hoping to see someone else praise conductors. I don't know about you but I threw mine on a choo choo. I swapped out pin-pointer's for it and have never looked back. It's basically a quad "vampire" RR now. And let's be honest. If you're rocking a rail or vats heavies, ya don't need more damage 😅
Tips: put the electrician mod on *The Fixer* shot and put the fuels , run on the tunnels and reload if u see the miners! 1 min for finish the stage 2. ( use the mods for realod quickly ur Fixer if u have)
So i actually was using polished and when i was using it and when i repaired it to 200% i damage went up by 48 or 50 i was using gauss and when i first repaired it with using an improved repair kit it before i only got 8 more damage kinda had a bit of a goofy interaction with that perk
Can you do a video or recommend which 4 star mod is best for bloodied commando build? I always enjoy your videos. Have a good day and keep up the good work!!
The 'up to' 50 damage on Fracturer's is insulting, in a game where enemies have thousands of points of HP, and most monsters will have like, maybe six points you can cripple. Supposedly, it can be affected by damage modifiers, but even then, the numbers are just way too low for me to even consider it outside of a tagging effect.
Well played Mr.Turtle!!! 👍 Looking to put Pyromaniac's on my Flaming Compound Bow. It's already a beast and hoping to get that extra DOT for the "WIN" what are your thoughts?
Hi mate, will you do same video for armor and pa pls? I assume that sawbones can be good with solar armor.. Than what to put on ss for example and what to put on pa… Rejuvenators, Scanners, Reflective..? I forgot to mentioned that Iam using currently 2 limit breakers on armor and pa.. So i have just 3 spare slots.. It can be without limit breakers with Vulcan as i can use 5x 2* luck there as powered is not necessary with thi pa.. Unfortunattelly i don’t have any luck for calibrated shocks plan after hundreds of raids..😢
Has anybody experimented on how Viper's or Pyro work with bows and the Poison or flaming arrows? Does it do the extra damage? If it does for the flaming, is it to all enemies affected (since it does splash damage) or just the main target if using vats? Thanks.
Would the Pyromaniac mod be good if using a bow with flaming arrows?? At first glance it appears awesome, but someone might see something that I do not.
isn't polished just better than the other damage increasing effects? even not locking durability would end up giving 60% bonus damage, if it only applies after other weak point multipliers have been applied to damage dealt, it would most certainly be better than 50 percent added to these multipliers, right? or does it just add 60 percent to multipliers like the 50 percent form pin pointers does? wouldn't it still be better then? i just don't get why it would be a tier instead of s, preferably adding 50% more damage over 60%.
Multiplicative buffs are much stronger than additive buffs because you can stack additive buffs from other sources. Also, Polish is really hard to maintain. When the CND drops below 180, the damage buff falls down to 50%. This means that Polish is only stronger than Pyro and Viper IF the CND is 190 or 200. It is hard to justify the efforts, spending 3* legendary on durability and using a lot of perks just for 10% difference.
Do you want to blind yourself even more lol. I want the armour video. I tested limit breakers with a lucky weapon and crit savy and crit every second shot. It lets me use amazing to star effects like powered or what I currently use which is five two star strength for extra meltiness with the auto axe on the turret and epsilon. It guarantees one phase on the turret and 38 seconds on epsilon. I have three runners pieces that I want to throw on a spare set of armour for the drill and really want to know if it bypasses the speed cap if you already have speed demons. Also have three bruises pieces that I'm holding off on using until it's tested. For the most part the four star armour pieces are so hard to get I'm just using a mix of what I have which is one reflective two ranges 2 scanners. I feel like scanners doesn't do much by the way.
This format is PERFECT- thank you! Please always do them this way! Would love to screenshot a chart that shows an S tier “only if melee or non-vats, etc”
Yes, please share a high-resolution screenshot
I love electricians on a tesla. It 100% works on the non 1 shot mole miners in the raid.
You can freeze every npc around the drill almost forever.
The armor mod version of this video is the one i really want, not using most of my 4 star armor mods until i know all the little details of how they all truly work, till then they staying in my stash box.
sad we have to resort on waiting to have fun because Beth doesn't playtest anything
@jphininzy9058 yeah it sucks but I'd rather wait than waste a ton of 4 star mods.
So real, I am literally, just trading and waiting before I even bother buying or using any 4 star mod boxes, and I am very glad I did wait, since I was going to try conductors to make a VATS build, and thankfully Angry Turtle made this video, likely saving me a glowing mask or more. Real shame Bethesda can't make a proper description, but better safe than sorry
@JuicyPiickle that's my point tho, if they just play tested the game and fixed their descriptions we could just use them when we get them
Reflective is S tier - Do not sleep on this one - When equipped (Full set 5 pcs) and paired with a Vampires weapon you will be invincible (except for ultracite mole miner 🤣)
Fracturer on the peppershaker with crippling perks is some amazing fun
it really is, it just needs some tweaking. Damage should be increased and also apply to the target.
I have been using pepper shaker with fractured for a couple days. Not very useful but quite fun. The explosion damage is very low to be noticeable.
I love your sense of humor please don’t change turtle lol
Been wondering which ones to look out for. A friend of mine has two pyromaniacs, one in his cremator and one on his holy fire and they both absolutely decimate everything.
Encircler's is good for the drill stage of the raid event for whoever is protecting the drill against the mole miners.
I'm glad you agree with Pin Pointers vs Bullys.
Just disappointed Conductors is so messed up could be S Tier easy.
Great Tierlist
AT, I’ve been using Vulcan Power Armor’s Ultracite Bracer mod. Although the description says that only melee applies poison and rad damage, it seemed that any time of damage (guns, explosive, ricochet damage) also applies the poison and rad damage. I think it will pair really well with Viper if using Vulcan Ultracite Bracer
I agree 99%. The only one I disagree with is Combo Breakers. Here me out before saying I'm nuts.
On regular melee weapons. Trash. F tier. Throw it in the garbage.
On Auto Axe, its actually not bad. Console players like myself can't spam canned coffee as easily to keep our AP up during Auto Axe DPS phases, so this helps offset that. Combined with Optimized Bracers on PA, you never run out of AP during a DPS phase. So for that use case, and that use case only, I'd but it in B tier.
That all being said, the second I get Pounders, I'm replacing Combo Breakers lol.
Also I personally would put Polished in S because of weapons deterioration being so low when used with Durability, so its fairly easy to get it to 60% and just sit there for a long time, but I do get why its A because its competing with Pin Pointers.
Also I need to know if Aegis stacks like I think it does like ASAP. Im either using full Aegis or 1 Aegis and 4 Relective. But im not using my boxes until I get the definitive answer it stacks.
Pin-Pointers on a V63 Laser Carbine with Bloodied/Rapid/VATS Optimized shreads. Also, Electrician's is damn near S tier on a Flame Arrow modded Bow with whatever other Legendary effects you like, if you also put on the Grenadier Perk Card. Each time you nock an arrow, it goes off. Stunning everything within a pretty huge area around you.
stabilizers with railway is just a good ol fun time to use. Non-vats railway still hits like a tank.
It slaps incredibly well on the LMG and tesla rifle also. Its just overall been a blast :)
Electricians could be fun with Blackpowder weapons. Not BiS, but for people that just like to solo roam, who aren't looking to min/max, it definitely has a use.
Maybe for shotguns too
What is bis?
Its hilarious on a bow and arrow, every arrow counts as a reload
Thanks for all of your testing! I'm even more unclear as to what the armor pieces do based on the descriptions, so I'm really looking forward to that video
Very much like this format, was waiting for this video and also armor/power armor 4* (I wanna know how good Aegis is on a full set compared to Tanky's). Can confirm stabilizer's adds some accuracy, I threw it on my Fixer to try and mitigate the kickback it has compared to the handmade. It felt like more shots were hitting that would've missed before.
Excellent explanation of each legendary effect. Thank you very much however one way that you can improve this list is get rid of the picture of the box mod the lower half just chop it off we don't need to see that let us see the name and make it bigger in your tier list so that possibly we could take a screenshot and keep it on hand. I hope this is possible it would make it a lot easier to go buy your tier list when organizing mods thanks again
Nice informative tier list Turtle 👍. Can you do a video on the new ap costs of heavy weapons? Especially the LMG, the ap cost is higher than what the patch notes claim and I don't know if it's the same for other heavy weapons. I really want attention brought to this and I hope I'm not the only one.
Amazing video Turtle! Was just what i was looking for since i couldn't test most of these myself.
Now this is content! Thank you Mr. Turtle!
Wait, so Polished; is the entire 60% buff effectively 0% at 101%-200%? It was my understanding through use that it was like… 60% bonus 100%-200% with it staring to dip under 99%. I’ve been using Improved repair kits and 200% repairs and I just never noticed damage decrease or change until I’m in the actual sub100 territory. Taking it to 150% during raids and I see no notable drop-offs until about 80-90%. This is on both a Gauss Minigun and Plasma Gat. I’ve been doing a lot of Robot fights and Polished were among the first couple 4* mods I got lol. But I guess it’s possible I just never noticed correctly?
@@booch138
Polished is an odd duck, though, I will say its second only to Pin Pointers, and when it's at 60% it's technically better. Though I don't know the exact bands for damage buff, since my Bloodied Explosive Gat Plas has never been below 150% since the durability change, at 199% it will have 60% and currently right now at around 150% I'm getting 48%. I wish it worked at 60% for the duration the weapon was at any % above 100. That would make it the best 4 star hands down.
The buff doesn't show on the weapon which is an odd choice. Instead the Polished buff is visible when you inspect your currently active effects. So if you ever are wondering what type of buff you're getting, that's where to look. It took me awhile to figure that one out.
Pyromaniac's sounds like a dream
Its on par with polished but way easier to use with flaming weapons
Love it on my flamer and auto axe with fire.
yeah its a somewhat easy condition works on flamers, cremator, hellstorm and lots of melee and energy weapon options that can have some fire damage like auto axe and gatling laser
Have it on my AA holy fire, and it feels like the pre nerf holy fire.
It's beautiful on the cremator dude.
I put Electrician's on my Quad, damage while aiming, +3 INT tesla. Everyone hates the Tesla reload at Rad Rumble. Now I love that my reload will still tag enemies.
Great video! This was very much needed!
Thanks for the video, turtle. So there is no interference with pinpointer’s when a non-appendage is struck by an explosive weapon?
no all good
Pyromaniac affecting the cremator DoT is huge.
They gotta revert conductors back to the PTS version. It was VERY fair and balanced! 💀
The fractures mod is fun for tagging. Especially on a qe pepper shaker 😂
Polished mod works fine for me with 200% condition.... I even see the damage on the tool tip. Polished should be S tier.
I enjoy the format. 🙏 make a similar with weapons, armour and power armor too after all the changes.
Thanks 🐢. I got all the mods for Vulcan. I got help from your community. I got a OE/luck/thru-hiker/3 limited breakers and 2 Rejuvenated . Awesome stuff
Are you aware of the Jetpack on your helmet glitch people are using now on Vulcan Armor
@@silentpsycho372how do you do that
Another problem with polished is you can't repair a weapon above 100%. So there is a frustrating time when it's like 120% and you can't do anything about it during the raid.
Can you not hit it with an improved repair kit?
@@expertmercenary645 yes
@@expertmercenary645it would be better if polished included the over health from the improved repair kit because you could then deal more than 60%
@@expertmercenary645 from what I'm seeing being at 150 only gives 30% damage boost. So yeah you can boost it that far on the fly. But to me it's so much of a hassle for a short lives 10% bonus over pin pointers which is just a set and forget. You're always gonna target weak points. Except of course it doesn't work vs the robot if that matters to you. And honestly pin pointers seems to do more than 50% damage.
I think the layout worked great and makes a good screenshot reference for later :)
I am SOO glad u didn't grade me in school....
U gave my FAVORITE, Fracturer's, an F cause it bothers ur eyes or something, but me and my Vampire mini-Shredder( GodShmack ) LOVE THE HELL outta this one, and I could care less about "seeing" whatever's standing in front of it. I have a pretty good Idea about it's Current State....
S tier for me🙂
Added to my Quad Explosive Durabilty Blackpowder and Dragon. Decimates everything and definitely doesn't do only 50 damage. Makes the build crowd control.
I dare him to add Battleloaders, which this build requires, to F Tier.
Good testing and explanation. I'm waiting for armor mods comparation
Combo breaker might be a very good pick if you intent to use the V63 in Vats when fighting bosses.
Love this video! Thank you for all your testing. What do you think is better for the holy fire, pyro or pin pointers?
I put a bully's on my explosive anti armor gauss gatlin. Works well enough. I got boiling point, pyromaniac is awesome. Can't wait to get one for my holy fire.
Waiting to see the armor their list. I threw miasma on a one star set of regenerating thorn armor for the stage two defense. If I can hold aggro it works pretty good. Running a heavy gunner's explosive swapping in the boiling point. Bleed and burn dps. The explosion from the miasma aggros and has a knock back to it.
About the format question... a nice mix of both the tier list like this AND some in-game video showcasing the best highlights would be ideal, instead of the either/or option imho.
Hmm wouldn’t comb-breaker work well on high ap weapons like the enclave epr? Cuts the ap cost in half. Also the enclave flamer has to be good with pryo and long as you have the betta wave cap. Lastly someone needs to try pounders with a drill. If you hit 1000x in vats with a drill. Even more broken.
I like the format, I agree that Electrician is a B tier but, I really like it on tesla thematicaly and it's a really powerful CC effect on anything other than bosses. Great for Drill defense, and defense Events. I wish Bully would work as advertised similary with Pin-pointer, just applying damage modifier on the enemies weak spot.
Great format! Looking forward for armor and PA videos, if you plan to do them!
Question about Electrician's. How big is the radius? What is the cooldown of the effect? Can it proc from a "Quick Hands" perk card proc?
Thanks for the video mate, and i love this format. looking foward to the second part about armors.
what do you guys and gals think is going to be the next crossover weapon like the tesla canon or the cremator?
Since "Polished" also applies to Grenades thrown with the weapon equipped, would that allow Nuka Grenades to once again 1 shot level 100 Super Mutants in West Tek with an Instigating Submachine Gun with an Armor Piercing Reciever?
I run Pinpointers on both my Q/25/25 Fixer and Railway and it’s absolutely huge. I tried Polished as well but didn’t like it as much and felt a consistent 50% damage is always better. And yes it works on Head in VATS! S tier for me.
Is pyromaniac worth putting on a UGL or a gat plasma? My plasma is named frank horrigans gat its super strong alrrady, i dont use flamers often although i have a very good one
I put it on the UGL its like the AK for energy weapon in this game it can do anything, not and punch pretty hard, can notice a significant difference in dps , although the gat plasma is my fav dps wep, but the UGL is my vamp main with Pyro 4 star
I didn't check comments for electricians on bow and arrow, but it's the most fun I've had in a while
I enjoy Lickety-Split which has fracturers. Not powerful but when it sets off a chain reaction it tags everything.
So do make stabilised make 2-shot usable out of VATS? And do it make shotgun spread significantly tighter?
Only in Fallout are eyes apendiges, I would worry that gets changed sooner or later
Do icemans slow group of enemies if you use those legendary perks those cause explosions by melee?
I like concept of team support effects, I with there was more of those
Got B2550durab cremator, should I go for pyromaniac's or rather polished?
Thank you so much for all the wonderful information. Very helpful
which one is recommended for the tesla rifle?
pin pointers
Polished doesn't seem to be working right. At 150% condition is only gives me 12-18% damage increase.
200% gives max, 100% condition gives 0
@@Rad_Kad ooooooh. misleading description then
@@sbaltys as usual lol
Would Electrician's be a good mod for a single-shot weapon, perhaps? Like the Bow or Nuka Blaster?
Looking forward to the 4 star armor ranking next :)
I need to correct you. "Electrician's" DOES work on enemies in the Raid just not the bosses or Ultragenetic enemies, my friend runs this in Part 2 and 3 and it stuns the moles attacking the drill AND the repair bots, they can single handedly defend the drill alone.
Honestly the best mods are the ones that dont need a build or other legendary mods to just work all the time
MR.Turle. I I waited for last time to change to deflect 4 star. 1 poison cloud. And the poison stuns.. it's pretty cool that poison does that now😊
so pyromanic and viper do have effect only on the type dammage or all kind of damage?for example flamed cutter have energy,fire and balistic(or ongly ballistic and fire don t remember), pyro boost only fire damage or also the other?I ask cause I got the snake sword and it have viper effect but the damage(the number) is always the same.
I will wait for the armor 4 star effect tier list, I ve seen some really good
all damage as long as target is burning
@@AngryTurtle thanks
Any idea if sentinel is working now & what 4th star legendary is on your AA50c25 Gatling plasma?
I think conductor is the 4 star effect not sure
My gatling plasma was already 200% with durability on it, loops guess I need to lower it for polished lol
Good morning Angry turtle. You need to try electricians on bows. It works. Also. Try it on the legendary bloodied lever action. (The gun that does that thing.)
Thank you for the information. Does the Pin-Pointers work with explosive launchers?
Was waiting for this Thanks turtle! They should change electricians to act like crusaders and deal damage. Why would you want to stun a creature if you could just kill them.
Here's something to test. Since the Minigun Shredder falls outside the category of Auto Melee, it SHOULD benefit from the full 50% effect from Combo-breaker. Also, Electricians is an interesting effect combined with single ammo weapons like the thirst zapper, as well as the assaultron head which can trigger the effect for every charge-reload.
Edit: If combo breaker can only be applied to melee weapons, then the first point is invalid.
I'm curious about electricians on a bow. I have an archer character and this could be fun.
@@georgielee1619 I tested this on the PTS, doesn't seem to count as a reload. I didn't test the crossbow, however...
I think Conductor's is S tier for bloodied commando or VATS heavy gunner.
Fr it's either this or pinpointer's for extra damage
I was scrolling hoping to see someone else praise conductors. I don't know about you but I threw mine on a choo choo. I swapped out pin-pointer's for it and have never looked back. It's basically a quad "vampire" RR now. And let's be honest. If you're rocking a rail or vats heavies, ya don't need more damage 😅
@ 100% it’s amazing on the Railway.
@sbaltys right? So all that being said. On certain guns I'd personally say either A or S.
Sometimes it does nothing at all. Sometimes it's game breaking good.
Holy fire with Aa/Crit/reload speed plus pyro and a huge tank is melting everything.
So should I put Pin-Pointer's on my gatling plasma for the raid?
you really did a great job of testing ❤
the Viper's and Pyro's debuffs apply to the target and not the player so everyone shooting at the burned/poisoned target can benefit
does stabilizer stack with the Gimbal Bracers on the vulcan power armor?
Damn! I was excited about Conductor's!
Tips: put the electrician mod on *The Fixer* shot and put the fuels , run on the tunnels and reload if u see the miners! 1 min for finish the stage 2. ( use the mods for realod quickly ur Fixer if u have)
Is there anything special about The Fixer that makes it uniquely good with the electrician mod?
@@ChiRhoFTW no, just use weapon with highest possible reload speed..for me, it's cremator with perk lock and load
I'm running pyromaniac on an anti armor gamma wave plasma Gatling. Honestly, I dunno if it's all that great but I like it
Electrician mob will be good with pistols or shotguns
So i actually was using polished and when i was using it and when i repaired it to 200% i damage went up by 48 or 50 i was using gauss and when i first repaired it with using an improved repair kit it before i only got 8 more damage kinda had a bit of a goofy interaction with that perk
Can you do a video or recommend which 4 star mod is best for bloodied commando build? I always enjoy your videos. Have a good day and keep up the good work!!
The 'up to' 50 damage on Fracturer's is insulting, in a game where enemies have thousands of points of HP, and most monsters will have like, maybe six points you can cripple. Supposedly, it can be affected by damage modifiers, but even then, the numbers are just way too low for me to even consider it outside of a tagging effect.
I almost spit out my tea :D 7:20
Well played Mr.Turtle!!! 👍 Looking to put Pyromaniac's on my Flaming Compound Bow. It's already a beast and hoping to get that extra DOT for the "WIN" what are your thoughts?
This is great, I’d love one for armor
Finally a tierlist! Been waiting for weeks, thanks turtleman can Always rely on ya 😊
Hi mate, will you do same video for armor and pa pls? I assume that sawbones can be good with solar armor.. Than what to put on ss for example and what to put on pa… Rejuvenators, Scanners, Reflective..? I forgot to mentioned that Iam using currently 2 limit breakers on armor and pa.. So i have just 3 spare slots.. It can be without limit breakers with Vulcan as i can use 5x 2* luck there as powered is not necessary with thi pa.. Unfortunattelly i don’t have any luck for calibrated shocks plan after hundreds of raids..😢
Nice summary Turtle. But the real question is: Are any of these affecting the Shredder? :D
Has anybody experimented on how Viper's or Pyro work with bows and the Poison or flaming arrows? Does it do the extra damage? If it does for the flaming, is it to all enemies affected (since it does splash damage) or just the main target if using vats? Thanks.
Battle-loader ,bruiser ,runners, saw bones, and stalwart ,how good are these 4 stars???
Does Pyromaniacs work on the DOT for a bow with flaming arrows?
yes
what is the BiS for Galtling Plasma, for DPS ?
When Turtle says multiplayer he means multiplier.
Would the Pyromaniac mod be good if using a bow with flaming arrows?? At first glance it appears awesome, but someone might see something that I do not.
Is weak points on enemies a thing outside of VATS?
yes you can manually aim for head for example
I think Combo-breaker is better than C tier, especially with a weapon that eats through AP like enclave plasma flamer.
isn't polished just better than the other damage increasing effects? even not locking durability would end up giving 60% bonus damage, if it only applies after other weak point multipliers have been applied to damage dealt, it would most certainly be better than 50 percent added to these multipliers, right? or does it just add 60 percent to multipliers like the 50 percent form pin pointers does? wouldn't it still be better then? i just don't get why it would be a tier instead of s, preferably adding 50% more damage over 60%.
Use it in game rather than looking at numbers.
Multiplicative buffs are much stronger than additive buffs because you can stack additive buffs from other sources.
Also, Polish is really hard to maintain. When the CND drops below 180, the damage buff falls down to 50%. This means that Polish is only stronger than Pyro and Viper IF the CND is 190 or 200. It is hard to justify the efforts, spending 3* legendary on durability and using a lot of perks just for 10% difference.
Thanks for all the testing you do! There's a lot of misinformation out there, and I feel like you do a lot to inform people.
Thanks Turtle, VERY insightful and helpful analysis!
Combo-breakers description reads like 50% AP reduction flat and doesn’t mention vats, does this only work on melee weapons?
Doesn't Combo breaker basically reduce the AP cost of weapons by 50%?
Do you want to blind yourself even more lol.
I want the armour video. I tested limit breakers with a lucky weapon and crit savy and crit every second shot. It lets me use amazing to star effects like powered or what I currently use which is five two star strength for extra meltiness with the auto axe on the turret and epsilon. It guarantees one phase on the turret and 38 seconds on epsilon.
I have three runners pieces that I want to throw on a spare set of armour for the drill and really want to know if it bypasses the speed cap if you already have speed demons.
Also have three bruises pieces that I'm holding off on using until it's tested.
For the most part the four star armour pieces are so hard to get I'm just using a mix of what I have which is one reflective two ranges 2 scanners. I feel like scanners doesn't do much by the way.
Would bully’s be good on Gatling Plasma with no explosive 2 star?
yes