Probably my favorite scene of the movie was near the beginning where the mc and another girl pull a robot from a destroyed car, only to activate screaming for his human family which are corpses in the car, leading to the mc to kill the robot while the other worker has a panic attack because of what she just saw. It seemed like that scene was going to be buildup for themes explored later in the movie but it just wasn't.
how were those themes not explored later on in the movie? we find out that the AI really just want freedom and we see the mc slowly warm up to ai's. someone later on in the movie even says the same quote he said to the girl he was working with back to him about how theyre only programming.
Everything you said about it not going beyond the trailer was exactly what I expected. I think we need someone like Carl Sagan (Contact) or Michael Crichton that has a background in science but also creative to create compelling original stories in science fiction.
I know what you mean, Alicia. My wife and I saw the movie yesterday and the look of the movie was breathtaking, all actors did a great job, and the action was on point. However, the story was rather simple and by the numbers. With a more captivating script, this movie would have been an A+.
@@gallowglass3764 Because everybody nowadays can't actually know what they want in film. People say they want original films, and then when one like this comes out - it gets told it's too familiar. Or how about all those complaining that superhero films are ruining cinema - yet, they make the most money. Like, it's one thing if you don't like this movie, that's fine. But to complain about how there is lack of originality in this kind of film. Or (like the top comment says) there is no artistic vision in the writing is just a redundant argument all around.
Sorry for the late comment but I just saw the film today. The AI stuff was very familiar as you said. Strong influences from Blade Runner, Ghost in the Shell, etc. On the other hand, in spite of what the marketing would lead you to believe, I don't think the movie was really about AI. It was about how humanity finds/creates meaning through our bonds/attachments, and what happens when we lose them. A few scenes stood out to me: the vengefulness of the colonel who lost her sons; the temporarily "revived" soldier's panicked plea to get a message to his wife; the old friend's grief at the loss of his "girlfriend". I think the film had a lot of layers, and you might get more out of it if you can forgive the shallow exploration of the AI theme.
Valid points. That focus on social connectivity was the only glimmer in this movie. Everything else was flat. I get the impression, that John Washington was supposed to somehow carry the dialogue with his growing relationship with Alfie ( stranger to father figure). But it just didn't catch. I'm not sure if the failure was in the story writing or Washington's inability to pull it off. Either way, I'm still rooting for this guy, but I can't give him a pass either.
I loved the film, the visuals, cinematography, sound design, world building, it’s all excellent. The writing could have been better, but I think there’s more to the film than you’re giving credit for.
It’s very derivative of a lot of films, but as a blockbuster sci-fi entertainment vehicle it was terrific. Great performances, great action, amazing visuals. Plenty of plot holes, but I was all-in. Loved it.
Saw it this afternoon. I agree 100% with you on this one. Disappointing. I loved the art direction; the fx are gorgeous. That being said: I’ve seen every single story beat before and found it not the least bit engaging on any level, other than aesthetically. Also, the idea of Asia becoming a united, peace-loving collective - but America is a standalone imperial oppressor - is a tad insulting and colossally stupid.
omg you are the only one on youtube who understood the movie, all the other reviewers never talk about the imperialism theme of this movie they all think its about ai. this is kinda scary
Another “protect the child, she is the key to everything” plot? In my mind after watching the trailers I thought this would be about the kid being a negotiator a machine resembling humans to bring about transcendance. You know where humans and AI would live in some digital heaven. So the humans would see that as the end of humans and the machines would see that as a weapon. But the film didn’t match that of course hahaa!
I totally agree with your disappointment given how much potential the AI topic has to inspire film. Truly, 2001 did it better than most more than 50 years ago, that's ridiculous. I haven't watched the Creator, but I was not excited from the trailers, it kinda looked like an even more action packed "I, Robot". If action is your priority, there's no space to tell a good sci-fi story imo.
Definitely gonna check out "The Foundation" and "Humans" thanks to your glowing recommendation! Yeahhhhh, Gareth Edwards' movies always leave much to be desired in the story department (lol). BUT I always love how the fantastical elements feel very natural to their surroundings, which helps me to just enjoy the ride and care about the characters as they navigate these worlds. I think what made "Monsters" so great was his improvisational approach, which I doubt any studio producer would allow in a big budget production. 😂
i don't know what this reviewer had to say about "HUMANS" per se, but i recommend watching the ORIGINAL swedish series FIRST then the british remake; they are fascinating bookends as it were of the exact same material with the latter being a more expanded & deeper dive into the narrative. as for "FOUNDATION", don't confuse it with asimov's rather amazing magnum opus; it is what it is, excellent for all that, but NOT the written trilogy by any means, which frankly, would take an extensive series & budget to construct. as for this 'review', sister alachia seems to have watched something other than what i viewed yet touches on the essential elements in a rather offhanded, dismissive way. it's not really about 'AI' per se, that's only a device to convey the story of american military imperialism & american FEAR of "the other" & that which it cannot control & dominate-in the movie, asian HUMANS & 'AI' bots are actually living side by side harmoniously (think, the vietnam war, the book "the forever war", the iraq invasion as a reaction to 9/11, the occupation of afghanistan...). it's about how axiomatically "empires die from within", how america keeps tripping over it's own dick; in fact, ken watanabe's 'AI' character flatly states as much; "we never attacked you, it was your own coding error" (think, "dr. strangelove", sidney lumet's "FAIL SAFE"). in fact, john david washington's special ops military field agent represents the broken bodies & psyches america's stupid wars leave behind; the wreckage & collateral damage, the deluded, hoodwinked & duped people led into absurd waste of time, energy & material by these "wag the dog" campaigns. in fact the fundamental reasons america is doomed to inevitable failure as a democratic socio-political experiment. it's unsustainable in the long run. this seems like a pretty damn good cinematic story to me. in any case, "the creator" is fuqqin BREATHTAKING to look at; something between a 70's independent & present day big budget production. curiously enough, my reaction to the acting was that it was mediocre given the level of talent on board, EXCEPT for little ms. voyles who played "alphie"; she just about ripped my heart out of my chest in every scene she appeared in. & i'm crazy about gemma chan who did such a spectacular turn in "HUMANS". lastly, if i remember correctly, the OST was solid though. given the visuals i'm thinking of seeing it AGAIN on the big screen if possible (it's THAT jaw dropping). at the risk of sounding patronizing, perhaps american industrial cinema has simply spoiled the average american moviegoer from picking up subtleties when they're hiding in plain sight. you have to BRING some insight & do a little work to connect the dots.
I agree with your view on this film. I was visually impressed with the film. The acting was spot on - I mean even the robots were convincing. But I don't feel AI was represented at all in this film with any of the real issues we need to address. I feel the use of time in the film was SO frustrating - like when Allison Janney jumps out of the helicopter and says if she's not back in 3 minutes leave without her (It would take her 3 minutes just to get where she's going from that field). Joshuas crawling on the US superweapon only to appear somewhere else what seems like seconds later - made me feel like a late episode of Game of Thrones. I was entertained and the only thing I got from the movie was the question if humans and AI will be able to emotionally connect - which is a good question. But other than that not really that impressed.
@@ian-fm2xc yes, its a shame, a lot of good movies end up flopping due to bad advertising and lack of support. For me worst example of the last 10 years was Dredd, now a cult classic action movie and at the time totally ignored and effed over by lack of studio & media support.
studio interference mate? written and directed by the man himself. Rogue One was mediocre but hey hard to blame given disney and all. And you're telling me this is his idea? self indulgent till the end where he believes he's done something magnificently emotional. As for visuals, we already have Denis Villenueve (and he does it better oops).. barf and a waste of my time. Funny seeing elderly women start crying as soon as the credits started rolling though.
He has a great talent for visuals. His writing leaves a lot to be desired. Every film of his has left me with the same feeling: cool ideas, tepid script.
It looks like they wanted to do new things by limiting the risks as much as possible. I really like Edwards' cinematography as well as the photo direction of his films (Greig Fraser). However, to see the same film a tenth time in a different setting cools me down a little. I'll still give him a chance this weekend. Thank you Alachia for your video. On t’aime! 😆❤️
@@grassygnoll3345 I just saw this movie maybe like 25 mins ago... didnt read or watch any reviews beforehand... at half the runtime I paused it and told stuff to my friends that matched Alachia's review... except that what initially bothered me and made me pause it was the plot holes... well, lets say inconsistencies instead of plot holes, but yeah... later on I was like damn, did they fall short with the script... everything looks and sounds nice but that was it. I hope they win awards for the SFX left and right though...
It was very, very close in plot to Terminator 2...they just swapped the roles of the humans and robots. This movie lost me with the weak stupidity of the AI devices. They were Keystone Kops. They were no faster, stronger, or smarter than humans. They didn't have any better senses, such as hearing. They didn't even have the ability to detect imposters in their midst, which any human squad would be able to do instantly. "Hmm? There are only five people in our squad and we all know each other...who are _you_ guys?" Yes, this was also the Vietnam War. The LA nuke was the Tonkin Gulf Incident. The huge American Military Machine stomping on AI villagers just trying to lead their own lives, being Buddhist fishermen, watching porn, gambling, drinking, and vaping. How could AI be that incompetent facing an existential American threat...still using AK-47 rifles?
I just saw it and it was fun to watch. People in the theater seemed to have fun too, judging by their reactions through out the film. I do enjoy movie like Interstellar, Tenet, Contact but this is fun too. There were a lot more in the film's message and much more than a trailer.
Great takes from your review! I loved watching humans on BBC and I wish they’d continued it. The creator I felt like was a very inspirational movie for the way they shot it on a Sony FX3 and just the vfx alone were done in a massive way. For me I really enjoyed it for a blockbuster movie and it’s probably my favorite as of recent. 🙌
When the dude is on the run with the AI kid, did it show any of the intelligent or predicting power that it has? I'm reminded of Minority Report when Tom Cruise is trying to break out the Precog. Along the way she could aid Tom in their escape by telling him, "Take the umbrella. It's gonna be useful later", "Turn left here", or "Wait, wait." for the balloon to block the chaser's view. Agatha couldn't stop predicting the future. I thought that's pretty cool. Made me want to watch Minority Report again rather than this one.
I felt something was wrong with the movie but I couldn't put my finger on it, but everything you've said confirms it. You articulated it so well. - This had nothing to do with AI. AI robots won't be farming in villages and shooting AK47s. AI machines would have like 20 NOMADs compared to the US's 1 NOMAD super weapon. - The US getting rid of the it's AI while Asia keeps it is like a guy trying to do research without the internet thinking he'll be better than the guy that kept the internet. Illogical - The villain lady was right, these things ARE Machines, all the reactions a Programmed. It's Code. Maths and Algorithms. They were quite literally 'Turning it OFF'. - How on earth did the Villain lady manage to survive on her own in the country of 'AI' robots trying to hunt her down. - The US was RIGHT! Without NOMAD, the US would be screwed. Ais are stronger, smarter and faster and there's really nothing stopping them from wiping out any country if they woke up one day and decided it was the 'logical' thing to do. I mean - climate change is caused by human, wipe out human no climate change - pretty logical. Too much of the movie just didn't make sense within the context of the world they had created and yes didn't really go much beyond the trailer. BUT I like the main actors/actresses, visuals was stunning, it wasn't a sequel so I don't regret going to see it in the cinema - had to leave for a bit out of boredom, but we need to support these efforts. And it was a good effort. Story just sucked.
His movies usually start off kinda boring/dull then get pretty good near the end and end on a high note. This one however started off pretty good and then progressively got worse as it went
Here's the the whole story. The kid is a weapon, because supposedly, Maya, the human and love of the black guy, created it with the power to control all machines, hence, it would prevent humans weapons to destroy AI. The only problem is that it never happens and only used its powers partially throughout the whole movie.
This movie is a missed opportunity. As AI begins to be embedded into our lives in more ways and with the public's curiosities and concerns about AI right now there is an appetite for a new movie to explore the moral, emotional and practical implications of humans coexisting with advanced AI. This movie doesn't fulfil that appetite at all. You leave this movie no more enlightened or even informed than when you walked in. I can live with a playful or action orientated AI movie but the trailer convinced us it would give us more and it didn't deliver on this front. The plot is weak, the conflict is trite but to end on a positive the FX, sound design, cinematography and music are all wonderful.
Thank you. I kept expecting New Asia's government to say something, do something to combat the US Army, but nope. A beautiful but empty watch. Great review.
Movie sounds lame ... People like to throw around the term 'AI', in my opinion, we won't have something like that anytime in the foreseeable future. However, technological evolution is accelerating at a rapid rate, thus it's possible it could be here sooner. In my opinion, what we call 'AI' is just sophisticated computer programs. People believe that human consciousness is related to neural complexity, however it may go beyond that. Our conscious experience appears to be nothing more than a simulation, freewill being an illusion. We have a lot more in common with computers than most would like to admit. As I've said before, you want good modern Sci-Fi, head to the bookstore ...
the movie storyline could have been fixed if they'd emphasized that these were first generation AI technologies based on human intelligence and behavior not AI created from scratch with their own AI intelligence. confusion would have been avoided.
After watching Ashoka and never feeling like the characters are ever really in danger, this movie was so fun to watch not knowing what was gonna happen to each character
The VFX are where Edwards shines. The script feels unfinished as there are questions that I have as an audience member that leave me yearning for answers that Ill never get.
Wow Jeremy Jahns there is a name I have not heard in a long long time, who get brought up next Chris Stuckman ? I have given neither of those any thought for a long time, as when the content produced is of such a low bar, it's only occasionally worth seeing what someone thinks about it, as you can usually pre-supposes the answer will be a negative with your own eyes. But there is so little info out there on this Movie was was (unusually curious) enough to watch this video as Alachia comes under the 'trusted reviwer' banner for me.
Fair enough. I just found it interesting that Jeremy says the story is more exciting than its premise, when Alachia literally says the opposite. I had a sneaking suspicion that this was going to be a visually stunning generic movie. Seems I was right, unfortunately. Still planning on seeing it.
Hit the nail on the head - the film is not about AI - doesn’t interrogate what it means to have humanity - just forces sympathy from the viewer by showing robots coexisting with people without delving any deeper. The film shows that these AI are capable of things like love, but it’s also acknowledged that the mother character can’t be killed by AI because of their programming, ie they’re not entirely free agents. The film just tells you that the AI are good and have humanity, which makes it not a film about AI but rather just an ordinary story about a dehumanised group fighting against an oppressive force. Blade Runner handles the actual concept of artificial intelligence with infinitely more grace. With that said the movie was fun and I enjoyed it, but it’s not going to change the world.
I feel like this is always the case with gareth edwards films. Really impressive visual director but does not know how to write a compelling story to complement it.
world building was interesting (I was laughing seeing these robots eat, sleep, drink...especially the ones that don't look like humans...)...but the plot was predictable as hell. Once they open with him and his family you knew exactly what the twists would be.
A bummer to hear this 😔. I liked the series Humans too. One may wonder, did Chan get the part because of her experience playing a robot already (Humans, Eternals) 🤔? I'm gonna watch The Creator in cinema anyway just for some escapism. But in all honesty, I'm craving a movie like Ex Machina. Alex Garland should make another one of that kind, just better than Annihilation (which was mediocre). But he can deliver.
@@darrellhobbstattoos4505 This is sci-fi that I consider exceptional (that I have personally seen). Compared to these The Creator is something like 6. Akira The Matrix The Animatrix Arrival Blade Runner Blade Runner 2049 Ghost in the Shell Ghost in the Shell Stand Alone Complex 2001 - A Space Odyssey District 9 Alien Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse Gravity Everything Everywhere All at Once Love Death and Robots The Creator has great visuals, but the worldbuilding is extremely weak, the story generically bland and the atmosphere is OK at best. Original is a word that definitely should not be used to describe it. And while The Creator's visuals are great, they are simply at the level of good concept art (and I say this as someone who absolutely loves Asian vibes). The Creator reminded me of Rogue One a lot. Exceptional movies don't remind you of other movies in a "bad" way. Exceptional movies forge their own path.
My first thought when the movie ended was “wow, that was just an extended version of the trailer” This story has been done to death and there was very little in how it executed it that makes it stand out above similar movies it’s ripping off: Avatar, Elysium, Chappie, Star Wars, Blade Runner, Terminator, Oblivion, Last of Us/Logan/65 it’s just like come ON do something already, there were tons of explosions throughout and cool robot designs yet the pacing was just awful, it was so hard to stay engaged because NONE of the characters had anything interesting about them
I've been struggling to get through this film. A lot of scenes, especially in the beginning just move way too slow. I think they could've shortened the runtime to like 90 minutes. And It really just feels like a typical AI apocalypse story just with the adoptive father and daughter trope thrown in there. I usually like this trope, but it's just getting tired at this point, especially if you don't do nothing with it. It's pretty much just a watered down Detroit Become Human, I recommend checking that out instead if you want to get a better humans vs. robots story.
OMG! Its an amazing movie with wonderful story: 1) interacial relationship between 2 cultures. 2) New Asia culture vs old world. 3) Ai vs humanity. 4) Ai being more peaceful & compassionate and than NOMAD US Army 5) Sacrifice of Joshua to protect his Ai "daughter" Alfie. 6) Reconnecting with loss family & loved ones via Ai tech. 7) Human mortality evolution to Ai immortality. 8) Asian Eastern philosophy vs Western weapons. 9) The fear of human error that leads to nuclear World War. Etc. The Creator is outstanding masterpiece on its own even without relying on past Scifi references ,imho.
I'm really disappointed to hear it's another sci fi movie with a potentially interesting premise, but fails to explore that idea. There is so much that can be done with Artificial Intelligence. It would be amazing to look at how they experience the world differently than we do, but in so many movies, they just act like people but with less lived experience. That reminds me of the movie "Another Earth" where a duplicate Earth appears. I couldn't wait to see what happened, but 95% of the story could have been told exactly the same without there ever having been a duplicate Earth. Maybe the writer thought a sci fi premise would draw attention to the story, but they were really uninterested in exploring it.
From a looks standpoint this movie is 10/10. The most realistic fake world that I've ever seen on film. From a story standpoint it's a 5/10, so much potential but it just doesn't explore that. Reminded me of way 2 many other films, Aliens, Avatar, District 9, Blade Runner, Akira, Apocalypse Now, Elysium, The Golden Child, A.I. The world building is phenomenal, but the character work is non existent. Such a shame, but definitely still worth watching, especially on an IMAX screen.
@@Alachia I pasted in a link but I think youtube blocked it. Try searching for ai soundtrack the creator in google. The article is on MIT Techology Review.
Lost me at the beginning when the top brass said this mission was for the species and they sent in maybe 10 people and mission objectives were totally forgotten the second the soldier driving the decorated Bobcat was pinned down. Also, why would a robot lay in a hammock or smoke? Why would a robot head have plastic pieces move when it's communicating through its speaker? Whole thing was blowing up a Death Star while babysitting the chosen one. That dead horse has been beaten so much there's only hair left.
Alachia Queen has the most accurate review! : "Visually stunning." & "Unfortunately takes a lot of amazing science fiction concepts and goes nowhere with them."
Well, that sucks. AI, androids and sentience are my second favorite sci-fi, behind cyberpunk. On a flip note, a really good show that examined AI and its impact on society (in my view) was Too Human, with Karl Urban. Man, I wish they didn't kill that show too soon.
I went into this movie with a hope. I hoped I was getting the next evolution in scifi storytelling, the next Blade Runner, etc and I can't believe this movie goes nowhere and only reaches a sum total of zero after more than 2 hours wasted. While some of the visuals are mindblowing for the cost. This movie isn't worth a $5 rental fee let alone a matinee price. ( I am shocked it was only $80 million to make. Which is still good news because now someone else, someday can use this template to tell an interesting story with these great special effects. This means we can tell many more Scifi stories and not break the bank.) Yet, I would skip this movie and look forward to the same VFX from a better movie. 3 out of 10. **************************Kinda Spoilish from here*********************************** I had a problem with the Robots sleeping, eating and drinking. Why is this a thing? To play on our idea of what's a living thing? To question the idea that the things we own, start owning us? I treat my car better than I treat myself. Does that make me a better person or a slave to an object I need to drive 18hours a week, to work a job I hate, to pay my bills I don't want and not live like a piece of shit? Am I more human because I treat non living things as if they have value? What does my car need before I need to start treating it like a person and not an object? In this story when sleeping, the robots are recharging. Sleeping? They are plugged in and taking in energy and they are as dead as corpses when they do this. When I have my table top in sleep mode and I walk into the same room, it wakes up without touching it. At night when I have my PC in sleep mode, if I roll over in bed, the screen turns on lighting up the room. Yet in this movie someone can walk up to a killer robot and just hit an off switch to stop a possible threat? I also have a problem with robots charging up and eating food if they don't need to do both. Why would you plug in and eat food that could feed a real child? Isn't that wrong? Yeah, I'd be on the side of stopping this. Why would I need to eat real food when as a robot I could just run a simulation to enjoy the taste of a great wine with dinner? I could use an augmented reality when sitting at a table with friends, even long dead friends and family and do something so basic as have a meal and a talk. Just think of the 'No Cleaning up needed.' People could do this from anywhere in the world. So I could climb a mountain in the morning and still get to watch my kid's school play in the same day. It woun't matter which way I was projecting my thoughts, it would be real in my mind. This movie takes it's time going Nowhere. I would have been okay with pushing the same old idea of questioning what is human? Like in Blade Runner. Or what is life? Yet this movie boils down to a thoughtless chase for a movie MacGuffin that doesn't feel dangerous. There was no point in this movie I felt this child was a danger to humanity. Shouldn't the kid have shown some type of danger beyond someone saying that' with time her power will grow'? I feel as if this movie was going to ask a question and forgot. This movie is a pass, and should only be watched on a lazy weekend afternoon when all of your chores are done and you have Zero to do.... For Free on a service you already pay for. 3 out of 10.
For me its amazing that no one is mentioning huge idiotic ways to get into top military bases, which are painted blue or yellow and visible from space. Or finally they got her, do some test, she didn't allowed them, so we will call the guy who is proven traitor to shut her down. They take apart Vision from Avengers to study how's he build etc... I saw top dumb movies, this is in top 3.
Could have been much, much better. But the amazing world building CGI, practical effects... were wasted on the story and montage/music. Still an interesting movie, had its moments.
i LOVE that you have a TH-cam channel because that means you will never enjoyed another movie ever again. Watching something just to critique it, nice life.
My issue with the film is it tries to get you to root for the bad guys and get emotional for robots. AI blew up LA, so ya i didnt care to save the AI. Also the emotional parts about robots, I didnt feel anything about them getting destroyed.
After finally watching it . I wish they made it more cheesy. It took itself so serious without not a lot of payoff. they made the machine with no nuance just like the story.
I agree the story and plot has issues but something to consider in the world-building is that this is first generation of AI put together based on human intelligence, with a factory line and advocacy for human allies for simulant identities. It is not based on AI building themselves, even the next gen or model alpha child is created by a human based on a human child's identity and this film does not go beyond that due to the larger geo-political issues that result from the fall-out of the nuclear bomb in the US.
I think original because it is not associated with a major franchise, but not in concept. While it does have great elements. I think the disconnect was the inconsistency in how the technology worked, and the stakes kept changing because we didn't know what dying really meant for the robots. They were Ai in name, but the technology was inconsequential to the plot. They were just a vessel for the real world parallel. Also elements were dropped in like "human error starting everything" but it was never expounded on. saying it's Ai, just so it could look cool didn't get me emotionally invested. They established that the death of a human and robot were different(you can extract the conscience from a human, and upload it to a robot). And which robot are the results of the consciences of people uploaded, and which ones are coded in manually by people. Great performances though. Too many unanswered questions.
I feel about the same way. I guess we can't criticize what does not exist, but it's like everything goes very fast and i was questioning how all the action could happened realistically and lead to subsequent events. So much is just up to interpretation and extrapolation by the audience, i feel. And there is no background story that explains the world and context or the main characters especially. We don't know how Alphie came to life and how Joshua got to work as an agent for the government. Also, the relationship between humans and robots, especially in the «west» is not explored enough. There is no real meaningful or deep dialogues. it's just kind of a thrill ride with good visuals and sounds, but honestly i expect to forget pretty much completely about this movie in the coming days.
Spot on review. A very derivative story, along with weak dialog. Also thought the 2 lead actors were unconvincing. Visually stunning yes, and probably worth watching just for that. A missed opportunity, with a better screenplay this could have been a gem of a movie.
The pain is visible, but u r right, even though it is a great achievement to finally have an original movie, the fact itself can not pull the whole movie...very sorry too
Totally agree. The concept of this was so interesting, the philosophical and ethical themes it could explore with the weapon being an A.I child were endless, but it did absolutely nothing with it and ended up being just another dumb, nigh budget action movie.
Also, the tone was just outright nasty sometimes, like it had no regard for human (or robotic) life? There's a scene where the protagonist forces a family including small children to smuggle him through a checkpoint and almost gets them shot, and there's another where an innocent bystander gets blown up by a police officer disguised as a mysterious hooded ice cream delivery guy. Both of these were played for laughs. Like they had a little funny quip thrown in. Felt so weird.
I will see it despite some middling reviews on RT, but I'm a sucker for visuals. Ahsoka leaps out of the (small) screen and I hope the second season of Halo lives up to the first. I get that many will turn up their noses at the thought of watching something based on a video game but I prefer that first season to endless reboots of MCU and DC.
Yeah, spot on analysis. Still, i'd rather see this released than another sequel. Hopefully its success might allow Edwards or others to do something more original. Altho re. Edwards, I think he could be another Blomkamp. Can't quite get his writing up to the standard of his visuals.
Is there any sci-fi tv,movies that actually potrays a.i.s possibilities. Like I have been recently going over sci fi from 80 to early 2000's. Chatgpt is already beyond most a,i, concepts in these shows. I know that some books are much better. Just wondering if there is any tv or movies. Doesnt have to be english based (can come from europe/ asia)
Interestingly, this movie felt a bit out of a Neil Bloomklaamp ambience. Hm, who knows, maybe they should tag team it in the future for a very good sci-fi story.
AI as a stand-in for communism is an interesting and apt comparison. I saw the west as mindless violent conservative xenophobia (flat. No depth or variance) And AI as the next progress the always innocent and kind progressives (flat. No depth or variance) have embraced. Our character was in the middle with very little opinion.
I’ve been annoying everyone around me with complaints about this movie. Similar to your criticisms - the simplistic and uncreative story, the overcooked morality, the lack of real sci-fi concepts. I can enjoy a mindless action flick but the plot holes were crater-sized and the emotionality was totally forced. But what bugs me the most is the wasted potential. The first half hour of this movie is some of the best visual sci-fi I’ve seen in years, and the fact that it’s “original” IP had my hopes very high… before they came crashing down. And the worst part is that it sends a terrible message to Hollywood, who will now feel confirmed in the belief that non-franchise genre movies cannot succeed. But we all know that they CAN - when they have good writing.
Everyone hear is talking about the lack of story but I’m just sitting here wondering what is up with the physicality of the robots appearances. Like what’s up with the discrimination between robot designs. This was never explained why some of the machines had human faces but others were the equivalent of a walking printer. Personally I prefer the walking printer because other than familiarity, robots should not look exactly like humans.
It doesn't surprise me. Since when is Gareth Edwards a reference of cinema? The most he reaches to be is a puppet for the studio executives. In this matter I have more faith for Neill Blomkamp.
Oddly wanted to walk out halfway through. There were some cheap plot moves. And i feel they used the child to manipulate me in a way that wasnt earned. The character with super powers to fix the dangerous problem is a plot device i cant stand. Dropped the ball. Oh and all the white people were bad. Im over it.
They used a lot of cheap emotional tactics... the crying child... but the worst offense was even the military guy stuck a gun to a dog's head .. what the f
The whole entire time I was on the humans side lol I was like uhhhh no dude do not give power to the machines!! What are you all stupid???? Also how can anyone fall for the sticky bomb trick twice??😂
So I went to see this after getting a recommendation from a friend of mine and I will say that the movie is aggressively OK. Not bad not amazing just OK. I don't feel like I wasted time seeing it but I'm not clamoring to see it again or tell others that they need to see it now or avoid it all together. For what it is it's fine and those who may find themselves interested should go check it out.
The entire first half of this movie focused on the main character treating AI robots as "Things", then he bonds with the AI child and realises they aren't just "Things", especially when the child turns the tables and refers to the soldier who has just died as being "Turned off", a term the main character uses to describe killing AIs.. This was probably the best movie I've seen this year.
I think that’s the point of the criticism, if AI is just a placeholder name for “others” which are treated as inferior, then they could have been aliens, indigenous people or whatever and it would be the same movie and one we’ve seen a million times. There’s nothing refreshing about the story and AI is such a rich theme that it’s a letdown that it’s not explored in any meaningful way.
How dare they waste Gemma Chan is a mediocre movie! She’s a treasure that deserves more attention and better roles. I’m tired of science fiction movies that replace ideas and character development with nonstop action sequences. There’s a reason why audiences are not interested in going to see movies anymore.
I saw it with no expectation and i was impressed you guys put to much thought process in movies half the movies i saw this year dont really come close and they had 300 million dollar budget this one only had 80 millon to work with and in my opinion got the job done visuals omg too good
Probably my favorite scene of the movie was near the beginning where the mc and another girl pull a robot from a destroyed car, only to activate screaming for his human family which are corpses in the car, leading to the mc to kill the robot while the other worker has a panic attack because of what she just saw. It seemed like that scene was going to be buildup for themes explored later in the movie but it just wasn't.
Absolutely. This was almost what I said word for word to my friends when we left the cinema. This movie was a missed opportunity
how were those themes not explored later on in the movie? we find out that the AI really just want freedom and we see the mc slowly warm up to ai's. someone later on in the movie even says the same quote he said to the girl he was working with back to him about how theyre only programming.
That scene is literally the foundation of the entire story, what do you mean the theme wasn't explored? That's THE theme of the film
Everything you said about it not going beyond the trailer was exactly what I expected. I think we need someone like Carl Sagan (Contact) or Michael Crichton that has a background in science but also creative to create compelling original stories in science fiction.
Good point and idea.
I never read the book Contact, however the film was a tad schmaltzy. However, I did read Sagan's other books, he's a hero of mine.
The writer behind The Expanse, anyone?
@@randomguy6679I would pay good money to see a movie from the guys James S.A. Corey.
@@ApricusInaros Even an Expanse movie spin-off would be sweet
I know what you mean, Alicia. My wife and I saw the movie yesterday and the look of the movie was breathtaking, all actors did a great job, and the action was on point. However, the story was rather simple and by the numbers. With a more captivating script, this movie would have been an A+.
It had so much potential!
Did anyone else notice the heroic arc of Joshua was that he stalked and murdered his ex?
Story writing is somehow a lost art
100% 😂. It was soooooo bad.
Or (and please brace with this)......... Audiences are too brainwashed. Wow, neat concept right!?
Or is it that Hollywood don't won't to deliver smart content that would promote smart viewers...
@@Itsallanillusion30brainwashed how?
@@gallowglass3764 Because everybody nowadays can't actually know what they want in film. People say they want original films, and then when one like this comes out - it gets told it's too familiar.
Or how about all those complaining that superhero films are ruining cinema - yet, they make the most money.
Like, it's one thing if you don't like this movie, that's fine. But to complain about how there is lack of originality in this kind of film. Or (like the top comment says) there is no artistic vision in the writing is just a redundant argument all around.
This is usually how it turns out with sci-fi that tries to re-examine Asimov's questions.
Sorry for the late comment but I just saw the film today. The AI stuff was very familiar as you said. Strong influences from Blade Runner, Ghost in the Shell, etc. On the other hand, in spite of what the marketing would lead you to believe, I don't think the movie was really about AI. It was about how humanity finds/creates meaning through our bonds/attachments, and what happens when we lose them. A few scenes stood out to me: the vengefulness of the colonel who lost her sons; the temporarily "revived" soldier's panicked plea to get a message to his wife; the old friend's grief at the loss of his "girlfriend". I think the film had a lot of layers, and you might get more out of it if you can forgive the shallow exploration of the AI theme.
The casting and horrible dialogues bring this movie to the dirt. There's no salvaging this mess.
@@baraka99I didn’t think the casting was bad, but I agree with you that the dialogue and story was trash. 😅
Valid points. That focus on social connectivity was the only glimmer in this movie. Everything else was flat. I get the impression, that John Washington was supposed to somehow carry the dialogue with his growing relationship with Alfie ( stranger to father figure). But it just didn't catch. I'm not sure if the failure was in the story writing or Washington's inability to pull it off. Either way, I'm still rooting for this guy, but I can't give him a pass either.
I loved the film, the visuals, cinematography, sound design, world building, it’s all excellent. The writing could have been better, but I think there’s more to the film than you’re giving credit for.
What’s the last good sci-fi film? Seems like it’s been a while.
Arrival, Moon, Children of Men, Snow Piercer, Sunshine, Minority Report, Ex Machina, Inception. They are very far and few between sadly.
Dune. The remake is great.
@@Alachia seen them all except Snowpiercer so I’ll check it out, thanks. Have you seen Devs? That was also by the Ex Machina guy.
I tried Devs. I got annoyed at their version of transcendence
It’s very derivative of a lot of films, but as a blockbuster sci-fi entertainment vehicle it was terrific. Great performances, great action, amazing visuals. Plenty of plot holes, but I was all-in. Loved it.
me too, I liked this better than Oppenheimer actually... very emotional. the ending was crazy.
@@deadislander Oh, boy. This movie is way more entertaining than Oppenheimer. I found Oppenheimer sleep inducing.
No it's not great ,it started off pretty cool,but it went down hill. This was a NETFLIX movie.the special effects were good. Nice review !
Saw it this afternoon.
I agree 100% with you on this one.
Disappointing.
I loved the art direction; the fx are gorgeous.
That being said: I’ve seen every single story beat before and found it not the least bit engaging on any level, other than aesthetically.
Also, the idea of Asia becoming a united, peace-loving collective - but America is a standalone imperial oppressor - is a tad insulting and colossally stupid.
omg you are the only one on youtube who understood the movie, all the other reviewers never talk about the imperialism theme of this movie they all think its about ai. this is kinda scary
Another “protect the child, she is the key to everything” plot?
In my mind after watching the trailers I thought this would be about the kid being a negotiator a machine resembling humans to bring about transcendance. You know where humans and AI would live in some digital heaven. So the humans would see that as the end of humans and the machines would see that as a weapon. But the film didn’t match that of course hahaa!
I got Children of Men vibes but action from the trailer
CoM vibes are there because of the chaos of the backdrop. CoM is miles better with world building and character development.
Children of Men is awesome.
I totally agree with your disappointment given how much potential the AI topic has to inspire film. Truly, 2001 did it better than most more than 50 years ago, that's ridiculous. I haven't watched the Creator, but I was not excited from the trailers, it kinda looked like an even more action packed "I, Robot". If action is your priority, there's no space to tell a good sci-fi story imo.
I’m working on my own robot movie so I was interested in this film
Definitely gonna check out "The Foundation" and "Humans" thanks to your glowing recommendation!
Yeahhhhh, Gareth Edwards' movies always leave much to be desired in the story department (lol). BUT I always love how the fantastical elements feel very natural to their surroundings, which helps me to just enjoy the ride and care about the characters as they navigate these worlds.
I think what made "Monsters" so great was his improvisational approach, which I doubt any studio producer would allow in a big budget production. 😂
Gareth's movies have the potential to be great... Just like Denis Vellinuve but he needs to let other people help with the writing.
Foundation is a bad, preachy adaptation IMO. Read the books instead.
i don't know what this reviewer had to say about "HUMANS" per se, but i recommend watching the ORIGINAL swedish series FIRST then the british remake; they are fascinating bookends as it were of the exact same material with the latter being a more expanded & deeper dive into the narrative. as for "FOUNDATION", don't confuse it with asimov's rather amazing magnum opus; it is what it is, excellent for all that, but NOT the written trilogy by any means, which frankly, would take an extensive series & budget to construct.
as for this 'review', sister alachia seems to have watched something other than what i viewed yet touches on the essential elements in a rather offhanded, dismissive way. it's not really about 'AI' per se, that's only a device to convey the story of american military imperialism & american FEAR of "the other" & that which it cannot control & dominate-in the movie, asian HUMANS & 'AI' bots are actually living side by side harmoniously (think, the vietnam war, the book "the forever war", the iraq invasion as a reaction to 9/11, the occupation of afghanistan...). it's about how axiomatically "empires die from within", how america keeps tripping over it's own dick; in fact, ken watanabe's 'AI' character flatly states as much; "we never attacked you, it was your own coding error" (think, "dr. strangelove", sidney lumet's "FAIL SAFE"). in fact, john david washington's special ops military field agent represents the broken bodies & psyches america's stupid wars leave behind; the wreckage & collateral damage, the deluded, hoodwinked & duped people led into absurd waste of time, energy & material by these "wag the dog" campaigns. in fact the fundamental reasons america is doomed to inevitable failure as a democratic socio-political experiment. it's unsustainable in the long run. this seems like a pretty damn good cinematic story to me. in any case, "the creator" is fuqqin BREATHTAKING to look at; something between a 70's independent & present day big budget production. curiously enough, my reaction to the acting was that it was mediocre given the level of talent on board, EXCEPT for little ms. voyles who played "alphie"; she just about ripped my heart out of my chest in every scene she appeared in. & i'm crazy about gemma chan who did such a spectacular turn in "HUMANS". lastly, if i remember correctly, the OST was solid though. given the visuals i'm thinking of seeing it AGAIN on the big screen if possible (it's THAT jaw dropping). at the risk of sounding patronizing, perhaps american industrial cinema has simply spoiled the average american moviegoer from picking up subtleties when they're hiding in plain sight. you have to BRING some insight & do a little work to connect the dots.
I agree with your view on this film. I was visually impressed with the film. The acting was spot on - I mean even the robots were convincing.
But I don't feel AI was represented at all in this film with any of the real issues we need to address. I feel the use of time in the film was SO frustrating - like when Allison Janney jumps out of the helicopter and says if she's not back in 3 minutes leave without her (It would take her 3 minutes just to get where she's going from that field). Joshuas crawling on the US superweapon only to appear somewhere else what seems like seconds later - made me feel like a late episode of Game of Thrones.
I was entertained and the only thing I got from the movie was the question if humans and AI will be able to emotionally connect - which is a good question. But other than that not really that impressed.
Genuinely value your assessments. Thank you for the input
I firmly believe that Gareth Edwards has a masterpiece in him, I just hope he gets to make it eventually without too much studio interference.
A box office flop
@@ian-fm2xc yes, its a shame, a lot of good movies end up flopping due to bad advertising and lack of support. For me worst example of the last 10 years was Dredd, now a cult classic action movie and at the time totally ignored and effed over by lack of studio & media support.
@@ian-fm2xc his films have only made 1.6B at the box office...
studio interference mate? written and directed by the man himself. Rogue One was mediocre but hey hard to blame given disney and all. And you're telling me this is his idea? self indulgent till the end where he believes he's done something magnificently emotional. As for visuals, we already have Denis Villenueve (and he does it better oops).. barf and a waste of my time. Funny seeing elderly women start crying as soon as the credits started rolling though.
He has a great talent for visuals. His writing leaves a lot to be desired. Every film of his has left me with the same feeling: cool ideas, tepid script.
It looks like they wanted to do new things by limiting the risks as much as possible. I really like Edwards' cinematography as well as the photo direction of his films (Greig Fraser). However, to see the same film a tenth time in a different setting cools me down a little. I'll still give him a chance this weekend. Thank you Alachia for your video. On t’aime! 😆❤️
Alachia got it wrong, there's a lot more to this film than the trailer. Not all of it is direct. Go see it with no expectation.
@@grassygnoll3345 I just saw this movie maybe like 25 mins ago... didnt read or watch any reviews beforehand... at half the runtime I paused it and told stuff to my friends that matched Alachia's review... except that what initially bothered me and made me pause it was the plot holes... well, lets say inconsistencies instead of plot holes, but yeah... later on I was like damn, did they fall short with the script... everything looks and sounds nice but that was it. I hope they win awards for the SFX left and right though...
It was very, very close in plot to Terminator 2...they just swapped the roles of the humans and robots. This movie lost me with the weak stupidity of the AI devices. They were Keystone Kops. They were no faster, stronger, or smarter than humans. They didn't have any better senses, such as hearing. They didn't even have the ability to detect imposters in their midst, which any human squad would be able to do instantly. "Hmm? There are only five people in our squad and we all know each other...who are _you_ guys?"
Yes, this was also the Vietnam War. The LA nuke was the Tonkin Gulf Incident. The huge American Military Machine stomping on AI villagers just trying to lead their own lives, being Buddhist fishermen, watching porn, gambling, drinking, and vaping. How could AI be that incompetent facing an existential American threat...still using AK-47 rifles?
I just saw it and it was fun to watch. People in the theater seemed to have fun too, judging by their reactions through out the film. I do enjoy movie like Interstellar, Tenet, Contact but this is fun too. There were a lot more in the film's message and much more than a trailer.
Great takes from your review! I loved watching humans on BBC and I wish they’d continued it. The creator I felt like was a very inspirational movie for the way they shot it on a Sony FX3 and just the vfx alone were done in a massive way. For me I really enjoyed it for a blockbuster movie and it’s probably my favorite as of recent. 🙌
humans was channel 4
I felt like I was watching THE GOLDEN CHILD.
lol! What a callback. 😂
When the dude is on the run with the AI kid, did it show any of the intelligent or predicting power that it has?
I'm reminded of Minority Report when Tom Cruise is trying to break out the Precog. Along the way she could aid Tom in their escape by telling him, "Take the umbrella. It's gonna be useful later", "Turn left here", or "Wait, wait." for the balloon to block the chaser's view. Agatha couldn't stop predicting the future.
I thought that's pretty cool. Made me want to watch Minority Report again rather than this one.
the kid gets activated a bunch as an EMP but it never goes beyond that.
Yeah. Film making hasn’t really moved on from ‘Mercury Rising’ or films like that hahaa!
I felt something was wrong with the movie but I couldn't put my finger on it, but everything you've said confirms it. You articulated it so well.
- This had nothing to do with AI. AI robots won't be farming in villages and shooting AK47s. AI machines would have like 20 NOMADs compared to the US's 1 NOMAD super weapon.
- The US getting rid of the it's AI while Asia keeps it is like a guy trying to do research without the internet thinking he'll be better than the guy that kept the internet. Illogical
- The villain lady was right, these things ARE Machines, all the reactions a Programmed. It's Code. Maths and Algorithms. They were quite literally 'Turning it OFF'.
- How on earth did the Villain lady manage to survive on her own in the country of 'AI' robots trying to hunt her down.
- The US was RIGHT! Without NOMAD, the US would be screwed. Ais are stronger, smarter and faster and there's really nothing stopping them from wiping out any country if they woke up one day and decided it was the 'logical' thing to do. I mean - climate change is caused by human, wipe out human no climate change - pretty logical.
Too much of the movie just didn't make sense within the context of the world they had created and yes didn't really go much beyond the trailer. BUT I like the main actors/actresses, visuals was stunning, it wasn't a sequel so I don't regret going to see it in the cinema - had to leave for a bit out of boredom, but we need to support these efforts. And it was a good effort. Story just sucked.
Yup... everything you said. It was one of those films that could have been so good if the writer had just done some research.
Gareth Edwards has done some very good directing in the past, so I might have tried this one just because him alone. Kind of a pity.
His movies usually start off kinda boring/dull then get pretty good near the end and end on a high note.
This one however started off pretty good and then progressively got worse as it went
Here's the the whole story. The kid is a weapon, because supposedly, Maya, the human and love of the black guy, created it with the power to control all machines, hence, it would prevent humans weapons to destroy AI. The only problem is that it never happens and only used its powers partially throughout the whole movie.
This movie is a missed opportunity.
As AI begins to be embedded into our lives in more ways and with the public's curiosities and concerns about AI right now there is an appetite for a new movie to explore the moral, emotional and practical implications of humans coexisting with advanced AI. This movie doesn't fulfil that appetite at all. You leave this movie no more enlightened or even informed than when you walked in. I can live with a playful or action orientated AI movie but the trailer convinced us it would give us more and it didn't deliver on this front. The plot is weak, the conflict is trite but to end on a positive the FX, sound design, cinematography and music are all wonderful.
Thank you. I kept expecting New Asia's government to say something, do something to combat the US Army, but nope. A beautiful but empty watch. Great review.
Considering Godzilla, and Rough One both sucked ass. I'm not surprised
Futuristic allegory on the Vietnam War
Movie sounds lame ... People like to throw around the term 'AI', in my opinion, we won't have something like that anytime in the foreseeable future. However, technological evolution is accelerating at a rapid rate, thus it's possible it could be here sooner. In my opinion, what we call 'AI' is just sophisticated computer programs. People believe that human consciousness is related to neural complexity, however it may go beyond that. Our conscious experience appears to be nothing more than a simulation, freewill being an illusion. We have a lot more in common with computers than most would like to admit. As I've said before, you want good modern Sci-Fi, head to the bookstore ...
Yes. We are just super advanced programming. DNA is our code.
the movie storyline could have been fixed if they'd emphasized that these were first generation AI technologies based on human intelligence and behavior not AI created from scratch with their own AI intelligence. confusion would have been avoided.
After watching Ashoka and never feeling like the characters are ever really in danger, this movie was so fun to watch not knowing what was gonna happen to each character
The VFX are where Edwards shines. The script feels unfinished as there are questions that I have as an audience member that leave me yearning for answers that Ill never get.
Jeremy Jahns said the opposite
Wow Jeremy Jahns there is a name I have not heard in a long long time, who get brought up next Chris Stuckman ?
I have given neither of those any thought for a long time, as when the content produced is of such a low bar, it's only occasionally worth seeing what someone thinks about it, as you can usually pre-supposes the answer will be a negative with your own eyes.
But there is so little info out there on this Movie was was (unusually curious) enough to watch this video as Alachia comes under the 'trusted reviwer' banner for me.
Fair enough. I just found it interesting that Jeremy says the story is more exciting than its premise, when Alachia literally says the opposite.
I had a sneaking suspicion that this was going to be a visually stunning generic movie.
Seems I was right, unfortunately.
Still planning on seeing it.
I regret going this weekend. It felt like good streaming content, not theater content
Hit the nail on the head - the film is not about AI - doesn’t interrogate what it means to have humanity - just forces sympathy from the viewer by showing robots coexisting with people without delving any deeper. The film shows that these AI are capable of things like love, but it’s also acknowledged that the mother character can’t be killed by AI because of their programming, ie they’re not entirely free agents. The film just tells you that the AI are good and have humanity, which makes it not a film about AI but rather just an ordinary story about a dehumanised group fighting against an oppressive force. Blade Runner handles the actual concept of artificial intelligence with infinitely more grace. With that said the movie was fun and I enjoyed it, but it’s not going to change the world.
I feel like this is always the case with gareth edwards films. Really impressive visual director but does not know how to write a compelling story to complement it.
world building was interesting (I was laughing seeing these robots eat, sleep, drink...especially the ones that don't look like humans...)...but the plot was predictable as hell. Once they open with him and his family you knew exactly what the twists would be.
Yeah. Midway through, I was like.. oh no. Is this really just going to be about him finding his wife?? Yup .... that's all there was to his story
@Alachia lol yeah. And of course the weapon is who we suspect it is, and nimrata would be the most obvious one
A bummer to hear this 😔. I liked the series Humans too. One may wonder, did Chan get the part because of her experience playing a robot already (Humans, Eternals) 🤔? I'm gonna watch The Creator in cinema anyway just for some escapism. But in all honesty, I'm craving a movie like Ex Machina. Alex Garland should make another one of that kind, just better than Annihilation (which was mediocre). But he can deliver.
Annihilation was such a disappointing follow up to ex machina
It was an incredible film, one of the best films i've seen for a while. Exceptional
I would love to have such low standards as you. I would be able to enjoy so much more entertainment 😀
@@PeterKoperdan what are your top 5 films this year?
@@darrellhobbstattoos4505 This is sci-fi that I consider exceptional (that I have personally seen). Compared to these The Creator is something like 6.
Akira
The Matrix
The Animatrix
Arrival
Blade Runner
Blade Runner 2049
Ghost in the Shell
Ghost in the Shell Stand Alone Complex
2001 - A Space Odyssey
District 9
Alien
Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse
Gravity
Everything Everywhere All at Once
Love Death and Robots
The Creator has great visuals, but the worldbuilding is extremely weak, the story generically bland and the atmosphere is OK at best. Original is a word that definitely should not be used to describe it. And while The Creator's visuals are great, they are simply at the level of good concept art (and I say this as someone who absolutely loves Asian vibes).
The Creator reminded me of Rogue One a lot. Exceptional movies don't remind you of other movies in a "bad" way. Exceptional movies forge their own path.
My first thought when the movie ended was “wow, that was just an extended version of the trailer”
This story has been done to death and there was very little in how it executed it that makes it stand out above similar movies it’s ripping off: Avatar, Elysium, Chappie, Star Wars, Blade Runner, Terminator, Oblivion, Last of Us/Logan/65 it’s just like come ON do something already, there were tons of explosions throughout and cool robot designs yet the pacing was just awful, it was so hard to stay engaged because NONE of the characters had anything interesting about them
Alachia Queen, you should watch Pantheon, awesome animated sci-fi series. I'm quite sure you'll love it
I've been struggling to get through this film. A lot of scenes, especially in the beginning just move way too slow. I think they could've shortened the runtime to like 90 minutes. And It really just feels like a typical AI apocalypse story just with the adoptive father and daughter trope thrown in there. I usually like this trope, but it's just getting tired at this point, especially if you don't do nothing with it. It's pretty much just a watered down Detroit Become Human, I recommend checking that out instead if you want to get a better humans vs. robots story.
OMG! Its an amazing movie with wonderful story: 1) interacial relationship between 2 cultures. 2) New Asia culture vs old world. 3) Ai vs humanity. 4) Ai being more peaceful & compassionate and than NOMAD US Army 5) Sacrifice of Joshua to protect his Ai "daughter" Alfie. 6) Reconnecting with loss family & loved ones via Ai tech. 7) Human mortality evolution to Ai immortality. 8) Asian Eastern philosophy vs Western weapons. 9) The fear of human error that leads to nuclear World War. Etc. The Creator is outstanding masterpiece on its own even without relying on past Scifi references ,imho.
Thank you for this!
No one cares about the interracial relationship: bringing that up shows how annoying you are
I'm really disappointed to hear it's another sci fi movie with a potentially interesting premise, but fails to explore that idea. There is so much that can be done with Artificial Intelligence. It would be amazing to look at how they experience the world differently than we do, but in so many movies, they just act like people but with less lived experience. That reminds me of the movie "Another Earth" where a duplicate Earth appears. I couldn't wait to see what happened, but 95% of the story could have been told exactly the same without there ever having been a duplicate Earth. Maybe the writer thought a sci fi premise would draw attention to the story, but they were really uninterested in exploring it.
From a looks standpoint this movie is 10/10. The most realistic fake world that I've ever seen on film. From a story standpoint it's a 5/10, so much potential but it just doesn't explore that. Reminded me of way 2 many other films, Aliens, Avatar, District 9, Blade Runner, Akira, Apocalypse Now, Elysium, The Golden Child, A.I.
The world building is phenomenal, but the character work is non existent. Such a shame, but definitely still worth watching, especially on an IMAX screen.
I'd add Children of Men. I was hoping for more than special effects.
Script, design, costumes, storyboards, even music were all initally done by AI. Some of this has been admitted to now.
Where did you read that?
@@Alachia I pasted in a link but I think youtube blocked it. Try searching for ai soundtrack the creator in google. The article is on MIT Techology Review.
False. Unless you'd care to share evidence?
_Humans_ was an adaptation of a Swedish show, IIRC.
I’ve seen the UK version. I want to see the Swedish version when time permits.
Lost me at the beginning when the top brass said this mission was for the species and they sent in maybe 10 people and mission objectives were totally forgotten the second the soldier driving the decorated Bobcat was pinned down. Also, why would a robot lay in a hammock or smoke? Why would a robot head have plastic pieces move when it's communicating through its speaker? Whole thing was blowing up a Death Star while babysitting the chosen one. That dead horse has been beaten so much there's only hair left.
loved this movie, one of my top 10s
I trust your opinion I'll wait till it is on cable
Alachia Queen has the most accurate review! :
"Visually stunning." & "Unfortunately takes a lot of amazing science fiction concepts and goes nowhere with them."
Well, that sucks. AI, androids and sentience are my second favorite sci-fi, behind cyberpunk. On a flip note, a really good show that examined AI and its impact on society (in my view) was Too Human, with Karl Urban. Man, I wish they didn't kill that show too soon.
do you mean Almost Human?
@@Alachia Yeah, that too. I think Too Human was a bad video game.
I liked Almost Human too. Sad they cancelled after one season.
I went into this movie with a hope. I hoped I was getting the next evolution in scifi storytelling, the next Blade Runner, etc and I can't believe this movie goes nowhere and only reaches a sum total of zero after more than 2 hours wasted. While some of the visuals are mindblowing for the cost. This movie isn't worth a $5 rental fee let alone a matinee price. ( I am shocked it was only $80 million to make. Which is still good news because now someone else, someday can use this template to tell an interesting story with these great special effects. This means we can tell many more Scifi stories and not break the bank.) Yet, I would skip this movie and look forward to the same VFX from a better movie. 3 out of 10.
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I had a problem with the Robots sleeping, eating and drinking. Why is this a thing? To play on our idea of what's a living thing? To question the idea that the things we own, start owning us?
I treat my car better than I treat myself. Does that make me a better person or a slave to an object I need to drive 18hours a week, to work a job I hate, to pay my bills I don't want and not live like a piece of shit?
Am I more human because I treat non living things as if they have value?
What does my car need before I need to start treating it like a person and not an object?
In this story when sleeping, the robots are recharging. Sleeping? They are plugged in and taking in energy and they are as dead as corpses when they do this. When I have my table top in sleep mode and I walk into the same room, it wakes up without touching it. At night when I have my PC in sleep mode, if I roll over in bed, the screen turns on lighting up the room. Yet in this movie someone can walk up to a killer robot and just hit an off switch to stop a possible threat?
I also have a problem with robots charging up and eating food if they don't need to do both. Why would you plug in and eat food that could feed a real child? Isn't that wrong? Yeah, I'd be on the side of stopping this.
Why would I need to eat real food when as a robot I could just run a simulation to enjoy the taste of a great wine with dinner? I could use an augmented reality when sitting at a table with friends, even long dead friends and family and do something so basic as have a meal and a talk. Just think of the 'No Cleaning up needed.' People could do this from anywhere in the world. So I could climb a mountain in the morning and still get to watch my kid's school play in the same day. It woun't matter which way I was projecting my thoughts, it would be real in my mind.
This movie takes it's time going Nowhere. I would have been okay with pushing the same old idea of questioning what is human? Like in Blade Runner. Or what is life? Yet this movie boils down to a thoughtless chase for a movie MacGuffin that doesn't feel dangerous. There was no point in this movie I felt this child was a danger to humanity. Shouldn't the kid have shown some type of danger beyond someone saying that' with time her power will grow'?
I feel as if this movie was going to ask a question and forgot.
This movie is a pass, and should only be watched on a lazy weekend afternoon when all of your chores are done and you have Zero to do.... For Free on a service you already pay for.
3 out of 10.
For me its amazing that no one is mentioning huge idiotic ways to get into top military bases, which are painted blue or yellow and visible from space. Or finally they got her, do some test, she didn't allowed them, so we will call the guy who is proven traitor to shut her down. They take apart Vision from Avengers to study how's he build etc... I saw top dumb movies, this is in top 3.
Could have been much, much better.
But the amazing world building CGI, practical effects... were wasted on the story and montage/music.
Still an interesting movie, had its moments.
i LOVE that you have a TH-cam channel because that means you will never enjoyed another movie ever again. Watching something just to critique it, nice life.
My issue with the film is it tries to get you to root for the bad guys and get emotional for robots. AI blew up LA, so ya i didnt care to save the AI. Also the emotional parts about robots, I didnt feel anything about them getting destroyed.
But they didn't. That's the whole thing. AI didn't blow up LA. It was an accident. Still the whole movie sucks 😕
@@paposwing2925 yes accident, but AI still did it. I agree the movie sucked.
After finally watching it . I wish they made it more cheesy. It took itself so serious without not a lot of payoff. they made the machine with no nuance just like the story.
I agree the story and plot has issues but something to consider in the world-building is that this is first generation of AI put together based on human intelligence, with a factory line and advocacy for human allies for simulant identities. It is not based on AI building themselves, even the next gen or model alpha child is created by a human based on a human child's identity and this film does not go beyond that due to the larger geo-political issues that result from the fall-out of the nuclear bomb in the US.
I think original because it is not associated with a major franchise, but not in concept. While it does have great elements. I think the disconnect was the inconsistency in how the technology worked, and the stakes kept changing because we didn't know what dying really meant for the robots. They were Ai in name, but the technology was inconsequential to the plot. They were just a vessel for the real world parallel. Also elements were dropped in like "human error starting everything" but it was never expounded on. saying it's Ai, just so it could look cool didn't get me emotionally invested. They established that the death of a human and robot were different(you can extract the conscience from a human, and upload it to a robot). And which robot are the results of the consciences of people uploaded, and which ones are coded in manually by people. Great performances though. Too many unanswered questions.
I feel about the same way. I guess we can't criticize what does not exist, but it's like everything goes very fast and i was questioning how all the action could happened realistically and lead to subsequent events. So much is just up to interpretation and extrapolation by the audience, i feel. And there is no background story that explains the world and context or the main characters especially. We don't know how Alphie came to life and how Joshua got to work as an agent for the government. Also, the relationship between humans and robots, especially in the «west» is not explored enough. There is no real meaningful or deep dialogues. it's just kind of a thrill ride with good visuals and sounds, but honestly i expect to forget pretty much completely about this movie in the coming days.
Spot on review. A very derivative story, along with weak dialog. Also thought the 2 lead actors were unconvincing. Visually stunning yes, and probably worth watching just for that. A missed opportunity, with a better screenplay this could have been a gem of a movie.
It's pretty damn good. Good actors and good storyline. Which been a while a film did something like this.
The pain is visible, but u r right, even though it is a great achievement to finally have an original movie, the fact itself can not pull the whole movie...very sorry too
I thought it was great and always refreshing to see an original sci fi flick
Totally agree. The concept of this was so interesting, the philosophical and ethical themes it could explore with the weapon being an A.I child were endless, but it did absolutely nothing with it and ended up being just another dumb, nigh budget action movie.
Also, the tone was just outright nasty sometimes, like it had no regard for human (or robotic) life? There's a scene where the protagonist forces a family including small children to smuggle him through a checkpoint and almost gets them shot, and there's another where an innocent bystander gets blown up by a police officer disguised as a mysterious hooded ice cream delivery guy.
Both of these were played for laughs. Like they had a little funny quip thrown in. Felt so weird.
I just watched it.
All the technical aspects of this film are very good. BUT THE SCRIP, FOR CHRIST SAKE... IS TERRIBLE!!
Monsters 2010 was also not well received by audiences.
Visual and concept: 10/10, story and writing: 1/10
Totally
M3gan is the he only AI child movie I will ever need
Someone tell me how this is NOT a knock off the Eddie Murphy film the Golden Child?
It definitely takes stories from a lot of films!
Definitely brought back golden child memories. With sleeping 🛌 beauty vibes.
Asian sleeping beauty character, the kid with cap, and Denzel’s son starring Eddie Murphy 🤪 lol
In a nutshell.
The high standard of visual representation is in inverse proportion to the quality of the writing.
I also wondered about the robots eating, drinking and smoking. They should have explained that with a short comment, at least.
I will see it despite some middling reviews on RT, but I'm a sucker for visuals. Ahsoka leaps out of the (small) screen and I hope the second season of Halo lives up to the first. I get that many will turn up their noses at the thought of watching something based on a video game but I prefer that first season to endless reboots of MCU and DC.
Good review! Subbed.
Yeah, spot on analysis. Still, i'd rather see this released than another sequel. Hopefully its success might allow Edwards or others to do something more original. Altho re. Edwards, I think he could be another Blomkamp. Can't quite get his writing up to the standard of his visuals.
The Golden Child. It reminded me of The Golden Child.
I also wish theyd shown more of the cities, nore cinematography like in GitS or Bladerunner
Is there any sci-fi tv,movies that actually potrays a.i.s possibilities. Like I have been recently going over sci fi from 80 to early 2000's. Chatgpt is already beyond most a,i, concepts in these shows. I know that some books are much better. Just wondering if there is any tv or movies. Doesnt have to be english based (can come from europe/ asia)
After AIs stupidly sacrificed an AI girl in the raid I only wanted humans just destroy all AIs.
Did Gareth Edwards also make the theme song and had a starting role? Hahaa!
I rewatched “Hudson Hawk” the other day and it’s better than anything modern I’ve seen since “This is 40.”
This Is 40 sucked ass.
Good review, thank you for speaking the truth! Good acting and beautiful cinematography won't save a bad story.
Interestingly, this movie felt a bit out of a Neil Bloomklaamp ambience. Hm, who knows, maybe they should tag team it in the future for a very good sci-fi story.
AI as a stand-in for communism is an interesting and apt comparison.
I saw the west as mindless violent conservative xenophobia (flat. No depth or variance)
And AI as the next progress the always innocent and kind progressives (flat. No depth or variance) have embraced.
Our character was in the middle with very little opinion.
I’ve been annoying everyone around me with complaints about this movie. Similar to your criticisms - the simplistic and uncreative story, the overcooked morality, the lack of real sci-fi concepts. I can enjoy a mindless action flick but the plot holes were crater-sized and the emotionality was totally forced. But what bugs me the most is the wasted potential.
The first half hour of this movie is some of the best visual sci-fi I’ve seen in years, and the fact that it’s “original” IP had my hopes very high… before they came crashing down. And the worst part is that it sends a terrible message to Hollywood, who will now feel confirmed in the belief that non-franchise genre movies cannot succeed. But we all know that they CAN - when they have good writing.
Coz you prefer something with lightsabers
Everyone hear is talking about the lack of story but I’m just sitting here wondering what is up with the physicality of the robots appearances. Like what’s up with the discrimination between robot designs. This was never explained why some of the machines had human faces but others were the equivalent of a walking printer. Personally I prefer the walking printer because other than familiarity, robots should not look exactly like humans.
It doesn't surprise me. Since when is Gareth Edwards a reference of cinema? The most he reaches to be is a puppet for the studio executives.
In this matter I have more faith for Neill Blomkamp.
Oddly wanted to walk out halfway through. There were some cheap plot moves. And i feel they used the child to manipulate me in a way that wasnt earned. The character with super powers to fix the dangerous problem is a plot device i cant stand.
Dropped the ball.
Oh and all the white people were bad. Im over it.
They used a lot of cheap emotional tactics... the crying child... but the worst offense was even the military guy stuck a gun to a dog's head .. what the f
The whole entire time I was on the humans side lol I was like uhhhh no dude do not give power to the machines!! What are you all stupid???? Also how can anyone fall for the sticky bomb trick twice??😂
The films you mentioned are inspired by Lone Wolf & Cub.
So I went to see this after getting a recommendation from a friend of mine and I will say that the movie is aggressively OK. Not bad not amazing just OK. I don't feel like I wasted time seeing it but I'm not clamoring to see it again or tell others that they need to see it now or avoid it all together. For what it is it's fine and those who may find themselves interested should go check it out.
The entire first half of this movie focused on the main character treating AI robots as "Things", then he bonds with the AI child and realises they aren't just "Things", especially when the child turns the tables and refers to the soldier who has just died as being "Turned off", a term the main character uses to describe killing AIs.. This was probably the best movie I've seen this year.
Agreed. I thought it was frikin awesome.
I think that’s the point of the criticism, if AI is just a placeholder name for “others” which are treated as inferior, then they could have been aliens, indigenous people or whatever and it would be the same movie and one we’ve seen a million times. There’s nothing refreshing about the story and AI is such a rich theme that it’s a letdown that it’s not explored in any meaningful way.
😂😂😂 wow poor of u😂😂😂
How dare they waste Gemma Chan is a mediocre movie! She’s a treasure that deserves more attention and better roles. I’m tired of science fiction movies that replace ideas and character development with nonstop action sequences. There’s a reason why audiences are not interested in going to see movies anymore.
I saw it with no expectation and i was impressed you guys put to much thought process in movies half the movies i saw this year dont really come close and they had 300 million dollar budget this one only had 80 millon to work with and in my opinion got the job done visuals omg too good