The Creator: the film that could have been great
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 5 ก.พ. 2025
- A film review. Possibly I should do more of these. The Creator is a feature sci-fi action film directed by Gareth Edwards, shot in an unusual way, and which had the potential to be ground-breakingly good.
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You might think posting this late at night that nobody would notice... but we're watching Lindy. We're always watching.
'Spooky noises'
Mexican fan here so this is a 4:30 post for me
Lol indeed
Thanks to the magic of an imaginary line known as IDL I'm watching this from the future.
Sneaky. Very sneaky.
A guy once told me about seeing Star Wars for the first time when it was in theaters back in 1977. The thing that stuck with him the most was the moment on Tatooine where C-3P0 is waiving at the Jawas while standing in front of a giant dinosaur skeleton. Obviously Lucas didn't create Tolkien level depth to his lore, but little things like that conveyed that there was a vast universe here and we're only seeing one story in it.
That dinosaur had a name. Betty. Betty the dinosaur. She lived a peaceful life just eating naked Jawas like any good dinosaur would do. Then the Jawas developed hooded technology (AKA, clothing). Betty, like all her dinosaur friends, could no longer identify the Jawas because their hooded clothing made them disappear into the background like John Cena. So she starved to death. Poor Betty.
That's why the old Star Wars connect with so many people, because they appeal to the inner child. A child who plays with ALL his toys at the same time. He's got his ninja turtles, legos, race cars, cowboys, space ships and dinosaurs ! Which reminds me ...poor Betty.
It's a shame star wars is dog shit
They had a good premise but it boiled down to "the empire bad cause reasons"
I had two main issues with the story:
1. The bad humans were laughably bad and were allowed to do things internationally that made zero sense.
2. The robots were perfectly good. The one interesting thing we were led to believe they did, they didn't.
This is the James Cameron "Avatar" school of storytelling.
1 is perfectly consistent with how america behaves toward the east though
avatar is not a good example to use for bad story telling, yeah its not a complex movie in terms of story or morals, but it is very competently written in terms of actually being able to understand character motivation and why things happen the way they do
Ah yes, but you see: "human bad".
And who is really bad and who is really good? its up to us, the viewers to decide, right... Star Wars didnt have that. WW2 didnt have that.
Avatar was at its core a very simplistic anti-technology, anti-military hate fest.
The military was presented in exactly the same way the American Left thinks of our military, a bunch of mindless conscienceless monsters who follow the most horrific orders with glee. However, they are at the same time completely incompetent at using the most destructive of their technology against the Noble Savages. Oh, and don’t forget the protagonist Jake out-nativing the natives in the worst tradition of Tarzan.
And of course technology was the death of Earth and was therefore the actual ultimate evil. If the Corporation was as ruthless as stated there would have been no avatars, since they could detect unobtanium from orbit they would simply have bombed the “home tree” from orbit and gone in to mine without distraction. But it wasn’t really that ruthless, or that incompetent. It made no sense.
Mind you Avatar was extremely pretty to look at (thanks to a whole lot of very advanced technology) but unless you have the emotional and intellectual development of a four year old, it’s unwatchable unless you turn your brain off.
"The characters visit a monastery and all the monks are robots."
[Douglas Adams has entered the chat.]
"Only one thumb!" Throwback to the video were Lindy passionately advocates for a second thumb.
I wanted a second thumb, but my thumb was opposed to it.
I almost got my little finger down to the opposing position... now for the "Fingerfertigkeit" (is it dexterity?)
I’d settle for extra long fingers with thin skin between like a bat so I can fly 🦇
Technically we have a second thumb.
A major drawback of robotic limbs is constantly looking for recharging points, & when you find one realising you've picked up the wrong charging lead, again. 😂
You know a man is genuinely charismatic when you enjoy watching him rant about Sci-Fi for twenty minutes straight without letting you get a word in edgewise.
NOT A WORD! I'd be offended, but it was so interesting.
I actually forgot that I have already watched this film and a few days ago I saw the cover and title again and thought "Oh, that film might be interesting, maybe I will watch it" but in the end decided to watch something else. Now I am watching your video and the memorys come back that I already watched it. So yeah, not really memorable...
I totally feel the "Oh, what was it called again?"
I had that happen with a Schwarzenegger film but it took me over half the film to be sure I had seen it before. It was not bad just VERY forgettable.
That's totally what my fiancée did a week after watching this!
@@EthelredHardrede-nz8yvSounds like The 6th Day or Eraser.
@@The_ZeroLine
Eraser is it. I just checked IMDB.
"The Maker" Or something.
the visual inconsistencies of Nomads size/orbit triggered me so hard
Ah yes, the Godzilla school of filmmaking, American campus.
I was genuinely confused when they flew up to space to attack it at the end because it never seemed more than a few thousand feet up at any time.
@@RorikHwell the international space station is only 200km up
So true, one time you see it seemingly at thousands of kms above earth and in the next scene you can see it floating between clouds...
@@RorikHI thought that or it was the size of the Death Star, a moon sized mega station, but when they flew up it only looked about as big as the British parliament building
I didn't know Gareth Edwards did the cinematography himself, but it very well explains why it looks beautiful while the acting falls completely flat. I bet the actors jobs were a lot easier not having to take notes and direction as much as typical, but man does it show in their performances.
I, as a human in the real world, do, in fact, announce when the power comes back on, even if it is already apparent to everyone present
"it's raining."
It can be polite depending on the company. Someone might be spending the time reading.
Ah good to see Lindy criticize movies again!
Still waiting for "Reflections on Helen of Troy part 2".
Very patiently.
I recall he finished his series about that movie. It was the Black Plague one that a company who owned it (I think Sony) took notice so he didn’t make the followup he was planning. That seems to have caused the hiatus in movie reviews.
Sorry for being a know-it-all but as a VFX artist I want to point put that special effects are the practical props and effects like fire and explosions on set
The post-processing/CGI is part of the Visual effects department
So:
Real boom made by explosives = special effects
Fake explosion made with computer-generated graphics(CG) = visual effects
Salty VFX artist shall return with more movie facts next review! :D
As a non-VFX artist, I want to point out that we will always call both cases special effects.
Is there a term that unifies both concepts? 'Cause there might be a need for it since non-experts are are using a term for it.
Anyway, I've been starting to think of "practical props and effects" etc. not as VFX, or SFX, but practical effects. PFX as it were. I'm willing to change.
@@frankharr9466 "The effects" works but if you want to specify as Lindybeige did in this video VFX and special effects are 2 very different departments :)
@@SwompyGaming
Sadly, the public isn't aware yet.
Showing the NOMAD before the end of the film was a big mistake. It should have been nothing but ominous targeting lights until a big reveal at the end.
"It is/looks cool" can be a valid reason for any single aspect of a movie but that can't be all you hang your hat on - at least not in aggregate
The film does briefly explain why the main character lost his limbs. It was a throwaway line about the nuclear "attack," in LA. He lost his family and was crippled by the blast.
not pointing it out for your sake, i trust your inteligence, but how ridiculous!
Where a nuclear blast would scorch you, you would suffer whole body burns and radiation. That just seems so silly.
Yeah but it was pretty forgettable
🤯
@@armorhide406 If you're missing half your brain then sure, but it's a pretty big part of the film and easily remembered, lmao. It definitely was not a throwaway line.
@@oBCHANo
He isn't missing half a brain. Maybe you do. It's pointless. It doesn't affect the story. He doesn't need to look at prosthetics to remember his missing family.
The quality is such that I completely forgot I saw it a month ago, until I just looked up the trailer.
Lindy is flapping his mouthparts in a way that creates interesting vibrations of the air that my movable head-bone parts enjoy swinging in tune with.
Yeah. That's why I'm giving him a thumbs up... sadly with the only thumb I have on my predominant hand.
I never thought I'd see someone who has seen Monsters. It's a little gem.
I love that film.
Likewise! Such an amazing film, I was blown away in the cinema, still stands up too. 😊🏴
Don't watch the sequel.
I’ve seen it. Was very good for the genre.
Well, you can't see me per se but i watched monsters.^^
Yes I saw this film and had many of the same issues. I was disappointed to not get anything truly sci Fi at all. It became clear that the world building was not very thought through. Really enjoyed dune part 2
I cannot fathom how you missed who the villains of the story are. Here's a hint: one side of the war threatens to *kill a child's dog right in front of them*, guns down peaceful monks, threatens and blackmails and tortures to get what they want. They disguise themselves to infiltrate the enemy, they drag dead people back to life and force them into a different dead person's body to get mission intel, and they use *sentient feeling bombs*.
Spoilers:
This movie isn't about AI, it's about how easy dehumanizing one side of a war justifies any atrocity against them. But the film constantly presents evidence against the idea that robots are not true people with legit feelings and such. We see the robots are capable of all human emotions, most obvious with Alphie, but also clear with many supporting characters and even some extras.
We're directly told that a robot killed herself in grief after her children were killed. We are given every indication that robots are people in every way that matters, and absolutely no indication against that idea beyond the blind beliefs of the human soldiers who have clearly been psychologically conditioned because there's no evidence their belief is accurate.
By falling for the humans' narrative you're actually proving the film's message that it's easy to dehumanize a group of people even with so much evidence against you. You're literally repeating the same rhetoric the villains of the film use, if this war were real you'd be on the wrong side, you'd be advocating mass murder of thinking feeling robots, and you claim this is *ineffective storytelling*?
That's not even mentioning the obvious "underdog band of ragtag rebels with no resources fight a massive army with superior weapons, vehicles, and a giant superweapon." aspect which pretty clearly indicates you should be rooting for them unless compelling evidence is presented. And the fact that both main characters are trying to destroy this superweapon to prevent catastrophic death tolls. Nomad is the Death Star, the robots are the Rebels, the only reason it doesn't seem like it initially is because we're seeing the war through Joshua's eyes, and over time he realizes he was wrong ala Finn from TFA. By the time we're in the 3rd act there should be no doubt who the heroes are, the film gives us all the information we need.
There are huge problems with this script but moral ambiguity is not one of them, this film is about as subtle as Avatar when it comes to who the bad guys are. I think you were searching for areas of grey where, by the end of the film, there just aren't any.
Sorry if I've come across as harsh here, it's just frustrating to see someone make these claims about the quality of the story while also proving the entire point of the story.
The giant laser light thingy did look great, but thought it was rather a dead giveaway for the sneaky sneaky soldiers making their way up the beach. Very impolite of high command to do that
Never heard of it...ignorance is bliss. Thank you for your hard work sir.
Don't bother watching it
yeah I agree, dont bother. Its not worth the time spent watching it. it really is one of the most "you will not remember this once its over" kind of movies. unless you really have nothing at all to watch, which is not likely.
18:17 the moment when Lindey was asked to resign from his club and return his Blue Peter badge.
Have you watched The Expanse? Almost all of my many questions had brilliant in-universe answers, either in the TV show itself, on the books, or occasionally provided by the writers. It really is the pinnacle of hard Sci-Fi...
...in my opinion!
Absolutely outstanding series of books and the TV shows are top notch too.
Thanks!
A movie about AI that feels like it was written by ChatGPT.
Like seriously, it's like Gareth Edwards opened up ChatGPT and gave the software pretty much every tired Sci-Fi movie trope as a prompt.
Oh and Denzel's son can't act to save his life.
That would be better because it means the story was written before the film was shot
I think my favorite thing about Lindybeigh is the incredible range of topics he can cover. From historical lectures (my favorite) to production commentary. This channel is one of my favorite content creators in the history of TH-cam.
I was 9 minutes in where you started talking about the east and west divide on AI before I realised I have watched this movie.
Goes above forgetting the name the day after.
I'm glad to see someone else who appreciates Rogue One! I think it's the best of the recent Star Wars, arguably the best of them all.
Eh, mandalorian was way better. I couldn't get past Donnie yen's stupid monk in rogue one. And the generally lack of tension.
Have you seen Andor? It surpasses. It's beyond mind boggling that Disney made it. It's sheer force of quality storytelling is possibly enough to rival or surpass even the mythic, unmatched, historical significance of A New Hope or Empire Strikes Back.
All great points Mr Beige, wondered why this film didn’t really click for me beyond the visuals and here we have it
I thought first, the light coming from the station were a scanner searching for robots. And I was annoyed that the designers let it flicker, so that even if they flew directly over a target, there would be a big chance to miss it because the laser was currently off, and because they would nit use the whole available width of the ship to scan.
Other things about the station that had me question things:
Why does a military base have reaserch centers and plantations?
Why do they have crosshairs directly underneath when the munitions flies hundreds of miles away?
Why is a military base publically reachable? (I might misremember that one)
Why does the eastern military not oppose a big effing ship violating theyr airspace?
(I did not really pick up the discrepancies on orbit hight by myself, but what the hell???)
Also on the story: so many almost hinted at but co.pletely missed opportunities for an actually good plot with depth.
Overall feeling: good visual team, scripted by chatgpt
Your last statement was my feeling about "John Connor from mars" (though chat gpt didn't exist then) . Pretty, but story makes little impact
Some guesses at answers
-It has research centers because it's the main base of the anti-robot forces, and all militaries do their research in their most critically important command centers (Source: XCOM). The plantations are needed to produce the food needed to sustain the hundreds of guards our heroes totally had to fight their way through, because why would a giant military base only have 12 guards?
- The contractor the military hired to build it said they could get an orbital laser cannon working under budget and in the time frame, but as none of the prototypes worked they just slapped some laser pointers on it and claimed that was never the plan.
-I think thats not a plot hole and they had to fake/create an emergency to justify landing there.
-As Napoleon said, "Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake". If your enemies wish to spend a trillion dollars + massive operating costs on a wildly impractical method of delivering missiles that could’ve been strapped to a plane or two, then let them.
i think the plantation could be also used for a way to get oxygen
"... like she knows that [...] because she's read the script"... somehow I heard this in a combination of Lindy's and Critical Drinker's voice...
Wow wow wow wow….wow
@@donkeysaurusrex7881 whoops!
The main problem with this film is that the studio wanted him to make Rogue One again, but different. There are many similarities in the plot, but many of the new elements simply fell flat and the world building was not convincing.
I checked out when the friend poked the child with a screw driver for 30 seconds and by doing so, discovered her unlimited potential.
Great review. I went to see The Creator at the cinema. I thought the trailer looked impressive in terms of special effects, but it did looked a bit shallow. The film never really went past the plot of the trailer in my view. The carnage of the giant tanks was just so over the top that it got exceedingly boring. The 'AI' was obviously the good guys!
Many of the things Lloyd brings up I feel are answered in the film. And the film is displaying a "protracted war," which means the conflict has gone on for a long time, the two sides have dissimilar forces and tactics, and the society has compensated from the carnage.
I am curious if Lloyd has watched any of the "Ghost in the Shell" shows and movies.
Nothing better than Lindybeige ramblings but it is 1:35 am in Turkey and I am way too drunk to catch up with him. Someone reply to this in 12 hours so I will be reminded to come back to this video pls thx.
Lol, sleep well but I'm well jealous about the Turkish breakfast you'll be having tomorrow!
Rememember to remind me to not forget 😋👍
exactly one hour ago :D
hope you're not too hung over 👍
Okay, c'mon back
"Once Upon a Time in Mexico" is a decent-ish 2003 American action western-type film written, directed, produced, photographed, scored, and edited by Robert Rodriguez. Is the same in concept and uses the early 4K cameras that enabled an 'ordinary person' to make flims - as Rodriguez explains in the extra bits on the DVD. But twenty years on we find that content is still king, and Lindybeige is really just saying that no matter how much tech you have, story writing is the real driver.
But isn’t Michael Bay the most respected filmmaker of our time and possibly all time?
El mariachi is very low budget ( its the first film in the trilogy), and i think it is still the best of all 3.
@@SuperKratosgamer thanks, good tip
Battlestar Galactica had the cyborgs, the Cylons, resurrected if destroyed by transferring their "soul", their consciousness and personality, into a body double (there was a limited number of Cylon "models") as long as a "Resurrection Ship" was close enough for the data transfer. apart from similar base character traits for each model, no two Cylons were actually alike due to different personalities resulting from different experiences. this was a great concept and a great show.
Lloyd is a better media reviewer than almost anyone else on youtube today. Not fussy, not full of himself, not trying to decipher the symbolism of every fuckin tree branch
“We’ve got power back” or “we’re back up [online]” are said often and annoyingly in films, but ironically people actually say that IRL despite it being obvious.
I just spoke to a friend who had seen the movie. When I asked him what he thought of it, he gave me a four letter review, which was, and I quote: "Toss."
In Search of Hannibal: the comic that could have been great
*The Comic That Could Have Existed
Yeah if what ppl say is true, thats rather shameless he hasn’t given any update on it. People spent money on it, its his responsibility to deliver or at least publicly back out and give back the funds,
What is the latest, cancelled?
Script is done. Artist is working through the art art about a page a week. Something like 50 or 100 pages remained at the time of the last update.
It should surprise no one that the project was massively overambitious and will be crammed with the amount of care and historical research characteristic of the bloke in the video.
It's coming up to 10 years, so people will have died, but it was always going to be a long wait, and for most of us if will be worth it.
I still have fait in this project for some reason. Still, I'd appreciate an update.
"Flapping the mouth parts" is such a fun way to say "talk". I will use it myself
He swore ! He done a cuss!
Never thought I'd see the day.
What? Sherlock?
shit is only considered a swear word in america
@@VoodaGod it's virtually common parlance in the UK
@@VoodaGodDang Yankee Prudes
Wait till you see the video with Modern History TV trying to teach Lindy to ride a horse.
There is not just one, but two scenes in which an animal blows up something using explosives. And it's a different animal each time.
Basically the cinematic equivalent of an Isaac Asimov novel. All of the characters are either robots that resemble humans or humans that resemble robots...
Thats actually a fantastic comparison lol, except that Asimov usually compensates for his awful flat characters by having a very compelling complex political plot or mystery. The Creator relies largely on just visuals, its plot its kinda muddled and confused. But yeah kinda shocking how after so many years you could pretty much depend on the fact that Asimov’s characters would be shallow and the story super intriguing, just moved from Foundation books to a Galactic Empire book and its all the same characters honestly.
When I saw the trailer for this film, I had an intuition that it might just be propaganda to increase support for AI. Looks like I might have been right…
Thank you for the review!
Naw I wouldn't buy that. I doubt half the concept artists who worked on it would have been ok with that. Especially coming from Gareth Edwards, a concept art guy. He's an artists' artist working with a tonne of other artists' artists. He just likes sci fi stuff.
This film is frustratingly lazy in its storytelling, with the added bonus that its oldschool orientalistic depiction of "the east" as a uniform, primitive Other makes it also a bit tonedeaf. Sidenote, I don't subscribe to the "Rogue One is the best non-original SW movie". I like it, but I think it has a lot of the same flaws that The Creator has, only it's less off-putting because it's Star Wars. It's a bunch of nice ideas and cool scenes reverse-engineered into a storyline, but it lacks depth and character as well.
It wasn't a bad film, it wasn't a good film either if I'm being honest.
One thing that did interest me was the idea that the "bad guys" used robots too, but their lack of trust in robots meant that they used them as walking bombs. We were clearly meant to regard these little bombs as quirky, whilst their deployment was deliberately ruthless, gave me a certain 40k vibe, a child-friendly, with colouring pens, 40k vibe, but still a vibe.
Agree with everything. World building is maybe the most important component in fiction. Tolkien world building combined with modern story telling and visuals are needed. Game of Thrones was close, up to season 5 and they decided to just ignore the world building.
Nice review. I had a lot of similar thoughts. Came out of the cinema thinking it was a setting written by a teenager for a younger sibling.
Visually appealing with tired tropes and unrealistic depictions of AI and lacking character depth, I love the general message of empathy and acceptance but so much of it was just unbelievable to me.
One of the aspects that really caught my attention that no one else seems to be mentioning much is the depiction of "New Asia" with a lot of American stereotypes intact. It really felt like it was trying to be a Vietnam war film, in my mind.
Also, the robotic limbs! Yes, I'm glad you mentioned those! I really expected there to be some discussion about people with cybernetic augmentations (something that would make them sort of halfway between human and AI). One more wasted opportunity.
And remote, wireless communication is one of the biggest fears people have of AI, I think. Being able to coordinate virtually instantaneously has huge advantages and is tech that is ubiquitous even nowadays. Obviously, it would be possible for future AIs too.
That clunky story scene really caught my attention because of their use of the word "species." The AI says that the two "species" (meaning human and AI) could live in peace. It's obvious that whoever wrote that intended to send a message of empathy but I don't think it's scientifically accurate to call AI (even self-aware AI) a species. Though, that does open up an avenue of discussion that is worth exploring, in my opinion: the question of how we define life and what subsequent rights come with that. It's one that so many good sci-fi works have explored and for good reason!
01:22 his hit and run style for Monsters wasn’t surprising. I met him a couple of years before he made that film at the Sci-fi London 48 hour film challenge, a competition where teams of filmmakers are given 48 hours to produce a short film based around some key words you are randomly given as the title. My team’s effort was called G.L.I.B.
Edwards’ team won with an amazing short called Factory Farmed! Which made most in the competition look amateur by comparison! 😂
“In Search of Hannibal.” The book that could have been great.
Any updates on that?
I'd not only forgotten the name of film but also that I'd seen it. Your description reminded me that I had, still can't remember what happened in the film. Which is probably for the best...
everyone does concur with your rouge one option, was house Motague or house Capulet the good guys? I still dont know whos side im on but is a good story.
I used to have difficulty remembering film names just after watching them, after sharing a friends "stash" at collage 40 years ago, now I think it's because I'm getting old, it happens to us all mate, I wouldn't worry about it.
The fact that Lindy knows about disneys absolute steam rolling of the starwars franchise makes me so happy
"World Building" = The 13 episodes of "Firefly" followed by "Serenity". Then you get to mourn forever that no more exists.
The 80’s Dune movie wasn't the most expensive movie ever made at the time. For instance, The Blues Brothers cost over 80 million and it was estimated that about a third of that went to cocaine. Dune had a much lower cocaine budget.
"Any robot can say 'WE COME IN PEACE' just before it throttles your babies!" - Lindybeige, 2024
Brilliant! Nicholas, old thing, could you do a video like this on Equilibrium? I would really REALLY love to know what you think of it.
I always saw his missing limbs as a middle ground between those who hate AI and those who don't. Here we have a guy who is fighting robots but is half robot himself, kinda shows he is not totally on one side or the other. Makes the whole flip flopping allegiance more plausible.
Awww. I had great hopes for this. Been a while since a trailer had excited to see a movie.
The Creator... The movie could have been great. But I got completely LOST in all the grandiose scenes. Also it didnt quite come together as a movie. It was more like a bunch of incredibly detailed, high-production scenes. But there was no red thread through the movie to follow.
A but like equally high production quality, but weak-sauce Tenent
Oh boy, was Tenet horrible
@@Pikilloification
High budget and amazing production. But yeah. It was a complete mess. But if you said it was hard to follow, then you were just stupid for not understanding it. But no... It was just a mess.
Yeah, I love some of Nolan’s work…..The Prestige is a masterpiece! Batman Begins is the superior Batman film out of his trilogy despite the acclaim the Dark Knight gets! But Tenet is terrible, as is Inception IMHO. Both seem too obsessed with how they making a film than actually having an interesting well written story to tell. Interstellar suffers from this too although it still manages to be a decent enough middle of the road sci fi, nowhere near as grandiose as it claims to be. It suffers from the M.Night Shyamalan kind of obsession with “the big twist” which isn’t really that big a twist at all! 😂
And The Dark Knight Rises makes Batman Forever look like a cinematic masterpiece in terms of writing! Sure there are some great scenes, but overall the film makes zero sense and was clearly done just because he was contractually obliged to do it!
Lindy you forgot that the base always needed to move above its target to shine its sights and then blow it up. But at the end the light could shine everywhere the it could blow up everything everywhere 😂😂😂
A recurring theme in many modern films: special effects, action scenes and rump pumpy take precedence over such old fashioned aspects such as acting, characterisation, or a plot.
Once upon a time I recall some one ranked the British newspapers by the average reading age required; it would be jolly fun to see what sort of intelligence watching a given film requires.
And yes - I switched onto your channel Lloyd because of your reviews of such films as Troy (crap archery in) and Iron Clad. I would happily watch more of this.
Lindybeige detected, veins injected.
Wonderful critique. I am so impressed with your knowledge of filmmaking. That's what I've done with the last mini years of my life so my compliments to you. I always love your channel.
I feel you. If you start looking for logical rationality in a movie, you are not the intended audience.
The trailer gave the impression that the set designer was inspired by Blade Runner and Simon Stålenhag's art. (Huge sci-fi technology in the distance viewed by children in the foreground set in a desolate 80's Sweden.)
But one dimensional characters are a tad boring.
I really didn't like the main actor. Might just be me but it was pretty boring watching him. Not a whole lot of emotional range going on there.
The big hole through the heads of the robots annoyed me no end. Why have a huge opening for dust and dirt where you can see sensitive mechanical parts inside?
Hearing "no shit Sherlock" from Lindy was so satisfying.
I can only hope to live long enough to see the Lindybeige movie. I'll be patiently waiting....
I had to check the name half way through . I wanted to check where it was shot as some of the locations looked familiar to me.
A story about AI religion would actually be cool. More than just futurama doing just normal religion but with robot
When this popped up, I wondered if you would have the same issues I had and I am glad you did. I found it so weird the AI side was shown to be living in shacks etc with no explanation.
Feels like a slightly better Neil Blomkamp movie. Kept me mildly entertained whilst watching but I can't really remember what happened in it.
The part where the absurdly giant tank painted targets was just odd. Why would you telegraph your attacks?
To make the visuals look cooler
"I can make a movie too. It looks easy enough" Is how we also end up with The Room
'any robot can say they come in peace before it throttles your babies' - Lindybeige 2024 🤣😂
“Any robot can say it comes in peace right before it throttles your babies” 🤣🤣🤣
I feel like you'd do a brilliant job creating a "pitch meeting" video for some of these, uh, favorite films.
I was very excited to see this film.. I watched it quite recently....and I really couldn't tell you ANYTHING about it.... which tells you everything you need to know and about how invested I was in the story....
The old robot thing I thought could be referred as in the film they briefly mention that you can give your likeness up to the robots but also have your memories loaded upto a robot. So old people would be some of the first robots and be a majority of them?
I did feel the film had an amazing concept but I wanted it to dig deeper into it all
Good insight re Tolkien and the sense of depth and dynasty you got from LotR. The appendices gave me a sense of divine revelation in the mythos.
Holy hell. A new Lindybeige AND a new Tourette's Guy on the same day!??
What did I do to deserve such a glorious Monday!?
Hi Lloyd! Off topic, but I figured I'd have a better chance of getting a response on a new vid. Can I ask who made the arming doublet you wear? Every time I order one, even when I select the "thin" option, it comes to me thick as a body builders duvet. Yours looks nice & accurate. I have a mighty need.
I suppose if you did have a robot arm and robot leg you would want them to be similar strength to your human ones or you'd be really unbalanced. You might have small advantages like a stronger grip and perhaps some armour on them and lack of pain if they get damaged.
The Dalek behind Lindybeige is listening intently to the review of the story about AI before it strikes.
I saw the thumbnail for your video and though "I should probably watch the movie before watching Lloyd's video". I started the film and realised that I'd actually watched it already, about a week ago. Also not a great sign.
Thanks for the info. Its so weird that suddenly there are many films that have this kind of glaring absent minded writing. Did it start with Pacific Rim, or does the disease go back further?
Good to see you're still a strong advocate of the two thumbs per hand idea 👍
Never mind the content, subject, message. We.. Watch.,... Lindy 😅😂🎉
Until half way through this video, I was umming and awing about should I watch the great lindybeige’s opinion on a film he saw or watch the film first get my own opinions and see how they compare, until I realised this ‘the creator’ film was one I had already seen 2 weeks earlier 🤦♂️ so yeah very memorable indeed
Monsters, and its soundtrack, is one of my personal all-time greats!
A huge comeback to old (stellar) form.
Appreciated.
Thanks for the warning Mr B. Sounds like he cdn't be arsed to make it believable.IMHO,those extra few weeks/months spent on creating the world and fleshing out the characters in your own head (for free) before filming wd make such a difference to the final film.
I remember watching the Battlestar Galactica series remake and laughing at the low cost props.The mechanics on the interstellar spaceships of the future had exactly the same toolbox as me but just sprayed it gold i.e. "Feck it.Yeahj,that'll do!" Someone was definitely putting the "me" into "lame"!
I suspect that the reason almost all modern space scifi is seemingly shot by candlelight is so they don't have to put any thought,effort or money into the sets in our world of huge HD screens and pause buttons.
Maybe you should crowdfund a sci-fi/mythology film eh? I'd kick in a few quid.
Iron Sky was 100% crowdfunded and that film rocked!
Use the farce.
I think that the whole deal with the AI being so human is supposed to be a play on how “the enemy factions are also people,” to break down the barriers of “Us and Them” or something like that, if you understand what I’m saying.
... That's an odd choice, then. not necessarily a _bad_ choice, but it feels dated. Maybe it'd go over better in the days before cell phones and bluetooth and the borg, but to expect a modern audience to see a robot character and not assume that it's _at least_ always communicating with someone over wifi feels misguided.
I think there's a transhumanism narrative in all this. Just where are the humans, just what is it we value that isn't in mass production, but then might we find it in replicants? What IS 'authentic' and why is it preferable? Jean Bauldrillard's "Hyper Reality".
Exactly! This movie isn't about AI, it's about how dehumanizing one side of a war, one group of people, lets you justify any atrocity. Lindy siding with the humans means he wasn't paying attention at all, we're literally told that a robot mom killed herself in grief when her children died. They are very obviously human-like intelligence and killing them is just as bad as killing humans.
But even if we didn't know that, the humans literally threaten other humans and even dogs, the robots never threaten their own kind or nature. It's extremely obvious who has the moral high ground.
Lindy’s right though, the characters were pretty flat