The Beelink SER5 Mini PC with Zen 3 Ryzen 5 5560U is really good
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 29 ก.ย. 2022
- The Beelink SER5 Mini PC comes with a Zen 3 Ryzen 5 5560 APU with 6 Cores and Radeon Graphics. There are 16GB of DDR4 RAM in dual channel configuration and a fast 500GB M.2 NVME SSD.
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That's a very odd decision to make the USB C connection USB 2!? That makes little sense to me.
gotta love how Phil's probably the only guy there who showcases Strange Brigade (excellent game!!!) on his reviews!! Props to ya, master Phil!!!
Amazing amount of performance for the form factor and only 34 watts at the wall! Thanks for the review Phil. Appreciated as always!
I just helped my mother snag a SER4 4700U to replace her very old system and it is plenty fast for her office work. If I was going to play with one, I might hold out for the 6000 series processors just for the huge bump in GPU capability.
Cute little PC, I like the clear CMOS button on the front.
I think the real charm of SFF is emulation. For $400, XSS and Game Pass will cover newer games better.
Yea, if you can get windows10 or 11 to actually run anything useful, OpenEMU on MacOS is the best emulator of the lot.
@@Synthematix the golden standard for emulation is windows because of the userbase percentage. I'm not averse to other OSes, but I have never had a Mac and Linux is too complicated for me. I just like emulation on PC, especially on Windows. Save state is a godsend because I like rpg. Play for 30 minutes and save whenever I can to resume later.
This is $319 on Cyber Monday from Amazon. Great review BTW.
Awesome!
It's so amazing to see how much better these mini PC's have become over the last few years 😮. Expandable RAM and storage. What else would we wish for 🤔? I guess a fast USB-C, but other than that, it's a perfect tiny device.
Thanks for the review, Phil 😉👍!
Thanks for the feedback 🙂What I wish for is more GPU power, that's the weak spot. CPU performance is insane IMO but GPU lagging behind.
@@philscomputerlab Is there such thing a great integrated graphics?
Thanks for your review, i need this mini pc 👍
I have an old MSI Intel Cubi that I turned into a server, and compared to it, those little mini PCS have gotten pretty powerful over the years.
I can't wait for something like this running Phoenix Point, I will likely enter the market then.
wish all reviewers actually mentioned the usb port speed specs, the hdmi port specs etc. very thorough. excellent work @PhilsComputerLab !
Thank you! At least you noticed 😉
It's MiniPhilday today!
It's incredible how they can cram so much horsepower in such a tiny little box with those NUC's. I know those are all older games, but a lot of people still play the better older games. NUC's are just the beginning. Pretty soon they'll be able to have something that can play games at 1080p+ which fits into the palm of your hand 😯😜
Just picked one up, as it's on a very short term sale on amazon for just over $300 USD. Gonna use it probably to replace our aging home theater PC with something that's significantly more efficient and should be well suited for its uses.
this is exactly what i found (for just over 300 usd) and also picked one up to replace my old media pc, great deal!
Modular Compute reviews are always nice. They leave me torn between are these Phone competitor reviews, or useful PC replacement reviews. I tend to buy NUC type PCs for my Mom.. but it would be nice to have an option where a full size Optical or with a card slot were available. the ASrock DeskMeet is looking like what I might upgrade Mom too.. but am I just hankering for the olden days? Or Hording physical tangible servers.. instead of going the way of the compute stick, square you can hide behind a Vesa mount.
If by "Optical" you are referring to internal CDs / DVDs / Blu-ray drives... You should check a drive enclosure. The difference between an external drive and a combo of internal + enclosure (that connects by USB to the mini PC) is that should be cheaper, the enclosure may be useful for various devices depending what type you want to connect (IDE, SATA...), and if the drive gets broken you can change it. Even the drive with the enclosure becomes "portable" and would work with USB on almost any modern Windows and Linux device (and not so modern too). I have one and love it. It saved me many times, and I can swap the drive with different internal ones I have.
Thinking better, nowadays it may not be cheaper the combo anymore. But I think it may be worth to invest in an enclosure depending the use case. Vantec is a brand that make this type of things with a good quality and price balance.
I'd recommend Asus VivoMini series for optical and SD card slot options. I have had one since 2019 and I am very content with it ;)
Can't wait for a machine this size with iGPU performance of a GTX 1660-RTX 2060 so I can get one, probably won't happen for a while but might be possible in a few years ;)
Just picked this up from Amazon for $330. Couldn't be happier, as I specifically wanted to play 4K HDR vids and TH-cam via browser and noy via its horrible app.
I was pretty interested in the last one you showed, and I looked into buying one, but I vaguely remember it was difficult to buy in Australia. At least this one can be bought off the rainforest website. I'm not a fan of that website though.
From memory there were some other limitations with the previous one which made it not quite right for what I wanted, so I ended up going with an Asus mini PC with a Ryzen APU. It was more expensive, but I've had no issues. I'm just using it as a server, so it's not like it has a particularly hard life.
I really like this mini pc's.
they wired the USB C port to USB 2.0 controller? anyway great review.
mini pcs are infact getting dangerously closer to desktop equivalents in terms of gaming. i think i still have my ryzen 5 asus pn50 minibox somewhere.
Cool review, but what on earth possessed them to use USB 2.0 for the Type-C connector?
Bought the Ryzen 7 version about a month ago. I have not run any formal tests, but it is obvious it will handle anything I need to do. Case gets slightly warm and fan sound is not a problem. Price was $369.94.
Nice!
Just got my SER5 a few days ago. Mine has the 5600H as at the time it was on sale for $397 on amazon. Now it's back up to full price $479.
Nice! How are you finding it?
@@philscomputerlab It's a beast for how small it is. I replaced the SSD with a WD Black SN750 2tb I had and have a 32gb kingston fury impact kit coming today.
For a mini personal computer, it looks decent. But those types are only good for older/mid-age games. And of course that 'mini size' tax of large proportions. But such technology can be greatly utilized for 'consoles', like a low-powered console for homes (1080p still?).
For ~$400, I don't mind the media Tech Wi-Fi.
This CPU also supports LPDDR4X-4266 (2X1R)
we need a comparison vs default DDR4-3200
Thanks for pointing this out, I don't haver such memory for testing I'm afraid...
@@philscomputerlab I don't think you can buy LPDDR4X memory DIMMs, as far as I know that only exists in non-modular design ;)
Quite impressive for such a tiny PC indeed, but still not really interesting if you have space for a larger system, which would be either cheaper at the same gaming performance or faster for a similar price. And of course it would be upgradable.
Only got a 5500U version here, but its mint. Kubuntu 22.04 is so fast and clean.
Thank you Phil Great Video, I just grabbed one, they are a lightening deal on Amazon in the US right now.
I know that you talked about this in some videos, but would you make a new one about connecting internal drives (optical ones and hdds) using adapters and enclosures?
I was commenting this to some that were wondering about connecting optical drives or big HDDs to this type of mini PCs.
I have different enclosures that give me the possibility to use internal drives as external with USB support (SATA and even IDE).
This is very handy in different scenarios and may work in some old computers and new ones with USB support.
Vantec and Sabrent are brands that make this type of devices, and there are others too of course with different quality and prices.
Not many people take in consideration this option, that may be better that directly buying an external drive for many reasons.
Yea there are heaps of docks. For optical drive, I haven't seen a nice enclosure, but you can use a USB adapter and PSU but it looks a bit rough.
Never knew about this. I just bought a laptop but I never use the screen ,battery or keyboard.
It's always closed and hooked to my TV and with a wireless keyboard and mouse.
This would have been perfect .
Are they ever going to release something with RDNA 2? I am not interested in the old tech, please do it beelink and you will have a customer if its quality. I also want USB 4 so I hook a video card to it via a dock.
4:08 Of course we can't see noise. We can only hear noise. And the only noise I hear is Phil's awesome voice. And I like that.
The usb c port only being 2.0 is a strange design choice that I do not understand
Recommend this instead of Raspberry Pi 4 if you think to use for bug hunting
It's too bad it's not Ryzen 6000. That extra gaming oomph with RDNA2 would've been helpful.
This. This CPU is NOT the latest generation per Phil's comment in the video. It's two generations behind on the CPU (zen3+ and zen4 have replaced it), and one generation behind (really 4 years behind) on the graphics architecture. A 6600u would be a huge upgrade on the graphics side, to get performance closer to the Steam Deck.
I'd say the Steam Deck is still the much better deal, at a slightly higher price (the SER5 model tested here is now 345USD). RDNA2. Ordering is only a couple months behind for delivery. This thing's upgradability and connectivity looks nice though.
I'm curious what the 5600h version for 450USD runs its TDP at - surely not 45W.
@@masejoerhere in my country this ser5 cost 300usd while the cheapest steam deck is 500usd. so its a no brainer when it comes to price, thats a significant difference. either way, im here for the lowest price that can run for the purpose i want. my games are not heavy anyways on steam. whenever i do want to play, i rather have it on switch and ps5.
Nice PC
I assume things like TH-cam and video streaming services run flawlessly on it at 1080p and possibly 4k? If so, then this would make for a great media center PC.
TH-cam absolutely at 4k. And local media files. With streaming services they often restrict resolutions, for example 720p in Chrome but in App you get 1080...
In the UK I am going to buy a Mini PC as energy prices are going to be ridiculous from tomorrow. Will not buy this one as in the UK too expensive. USB C slower than standard USB that is poor though!
qual a diferença entre o
Beelink Ryzen 5 5600H
Beelink Ryzen 5 5600U ?
Could you point me to the mini PCs with the lowest power consumption for a plex,sonarr,radarr server 😊
Is it better to buy the 5560U variant instead of the 5600H? performance difference is very less, more importantly Beelink is running the 5600H at lower TDP of 35W instead of rated TDP of 45W so any small performance advantage will be negated.
2 questions:
1. What is the performance vs an i7 7700?
2. Is the powercable long enough for it to be plugged in on the floor, and the PC to be on a standing desk?
I bought one of these to use with SteamVR / Oculus Link. The olculus site and beelink say it should work, but SteamVR check says no dice. What am i doing wrong?
I’m going to get one
could this pc play 4k hdr video?
Needs a display port and a second M.2 slot.
hi Phil , Ssd drive dropping price so much nowsday..
240gb ssd can get as low as $AUD 30.
its a good time to build win Xp retro Pc before the price going up again..
We haven't done a XP project in a while.
Do you know if they're planning a bare bones version with no RAM and storage?
I can ask, but I don't think so.
1. Can the Type C be used for video out?
2. Can you upgrade the CPU?
3. Apart from the RAM and SSD, is there anything else you can upgrade to upgrade it yourself?
CPU can't be upgraded. It's a laptop CPU
I have the lowly Intel Celeron Mini S, which I really like for general purpose computing!
There's a design flaw, in that the SATA ribbon cable gets trapped between the SSD and the hard drive caddy! This could break the cable over time. It's really difficult to put the bottom cover back on WITHOUT trapping the springy SATA cable! ... There was no spare SATA cable with my Mini S, should the original be damaged.
EDIT: I can't find any updated drivers or firmware for my Mini S on the manufacturer's Website. Does anybody know where I can get them?
the only thing i heard nad about beelink is their aftersales
Why would they put the USB-C port on a USB2 bus? Severely limiting its functionality.
G'day Phil,
the Problem with these as a HTPC for me is I can't fit my 2x 6TB HDD that have all my Music & Cartoons on them,
but while not as powerful my Athlon 200GE in M-ATX case is Awesome for that while using so little power my energy supplier has no idea it is on 24hrs a day 🥰
Ps at least with Beelink their name & marketing doesn't remind me of MisinfrmU mini PCs
Every thought of getting a NAS? It's really changed how I do things, everything is readily accessible.
You may want to consider too investing in an external enclosure that gives you USB support for the drives. Sabrent and Vantec make this type of devices and the combo works great if you take proper care of the HDDs.
@@philscomputerlab yes, please, give us some advice in NAS systems.
usbc being 2.0 is such a weird desicion.
Could make a good home theater pc
USB-C at only USB 2.0 is going to cause some confusion with users. I'd expect of all the available ports, that USB-C would be the fastest.
Not really if its meant for charging. like 99% of usb c charging cables are 2.0
Did you use a USB C cable that was wired up for USB 3 data transfer? A majority of USB C cables out there aren't, particularly the ones that have USB C on both ends and will only give USB 2.0 speeds.
It would seem to be a very odd decision if they genuinely only wired the port for USB 2 speeds 🤔
Yea because I tested it on another Mini PC and gave me full speed there. And also have an Adapter from type A to type C.
@Mr Guru I tested the adaptor on another machine and gave me full speed.
@Mr Guru "Type C to Type A adapter is only usb2.0" Sorry that is a false blanket statement. Maybe you have one that is USB 2.0, but not mine.
@Mr Guru "That means nothing" I tested my M.2 NVME to USB-C device in SER4 and SER5 Mini PC, SER4 gives me just under 1 GBps, whereas SER5 around 40 MBps. That's the test, it is what it is. The specifications mention the bottom rear port being USB 2.0, but the front port is just named USB-C without any further details. So it's good that I test all the ports and not make assumptions and just read off the specifications.
@Mr Guru You're the one assuming a USB-C adapter is always 2,0 and you're the one assuming that testing another machine means nothing. I don't assume anything, I test things thoroughly and share my findings, always have, always will.
Hi there, on Amazon there is the Beelink Ser5 but with either a 5560u or 5600u processor. The only difference is the L3 cache and additional graphics core. Do you know if this really equates to any real world difference?
Yes, both the CPU and graphics are faster. So if you have the budget, get the 5600U.
@@philscomputerlab hey Phil how much faster are we talking? Is it
@@mcc7370 I'm not sure about the exact difference and would depend on what game and what application.
@@philscomputerlab don't suppose you have both variants to run a test? But yes hear your point. I'm such a huge fan of mini PC's. I live in South Africa and the FX rates and import taxes are fairly high when ordering on Amazon. I'll stick to the 5560u and the next upgrade will be in a few years. I currently have the Minix with a Intel N4200 CPU so this is about 130% upgrade if I looked at benchmarks
Why do these mini-PCs all seem to have so much screen tearing? It that just an issue with the screen capture or somthing or is it the anemic GPU showing through? This gaming performance of these older titles looks great other than the tearing but that's a borderline dealbreker.
Enable v-sync. But you don't for benchmarking.
I'm in Europe and it was quite disheartening to find this system was notably more expensive than the 400 dollars mentioned in the video when looking up at Amazon and some other stores. However, buying directly from Beelink it's just a 29 buck difference. As of Oct, 12 they tell me they have stock in their EU warehouse. Actually, it's the model with a 5600H in it but should be quite a similar experience. Quite good value I'd say.
5600h better than 5560u tho
@@rkustanto Yeah, it's somewhat superior in fact, so it's not like I would complain 🤩
Maybe models shown in their webpage vary depending on one's location?
AFAIK the 5600H has double the Cache and also the graphics is stronger with more units. Yes prices can vary betweet regions quite a bit.
I just purchased this one. Do you know how to update the ryzen vega software driver? I can't find the driver on AMD site. I always get notif about the driver and software version not matching..
Go directly to the AMD site. There are 2 drivers you want. Graphics drivers and chipset drivers. On the AMD site is a tool that will probe the system and find the correct driver or you choose it manually.
@@philscomputerlab i did try the amd automatic driver finder from their website. And still, the app cant detect the driver always show error 206..
Wtf! USB C 2.0! What is this!!!! Pentium 4 era……..
Needs USB 4.
Where's the 7gen?
0:17 - "SER" translates to "Cheese", from Polish to English.
😅
Cuanto dólares o euros cuesta este mini pc
This can run Doom Eternal on 720p good and on 1080p with 50 fps with minimum settings.
So that small tissue box can run Windows 11, but my HP from 2018 can't.
I wish you had taken out the motherboard and CPU, just to have a look. In any case, I guess they are using laptop components. It is so small.
AMD made the right choice many years ago when they fused with ATI.
Yea I'm a bit reluctant to take it apart like that, but yes, the CPU is a notebook APU and uses notebook RAM as well.
Sent us .... to the basement of my parents house. LOL
These computers just aren't worth it here where I live, €650,- buys me a parts to build something slightly better with a R5 5600G and either more storage or RAM. And the option to upgrade with a gpu somewhere in the future.
can I run windows 10 to this PC without any problems?
Hmm I haven't tried this as it comes with 11.
@@philscomputerlab can you tried it please 🙏 because I am planning to buy this model but honestly I really hate Windows 11 more power to your YT channel Thanks
@@I70v3_3XI4 I don't have it anymore.
@@philscomputerlab that's unfortunate thanks for your time more power to your YT channel
The USB C port is over a 2.0 bus? Bruh.
It is 303.00 today
Another download of those guys? I'm so sick these dirty shoes...
I cannot think of any situation when I would use this mini PC. As a desktop it is loud and not upgradeable, and it is not portable like a laptop. It combines the worst characteristics of the two.
It needs a VGA port. 1280x1024 goodness 😀
Mini PC, All I care about most = Does it run "pure dos 7.1 & 9x" (or 3rd party flavors) & when not doing retro-duty.... how much Monico Crypto coin can it mine per day?
Its what no cloud game service can do > stuff other than retro/current game streaming (from word processing to crypto mining)
I'd rather EARN pennies a day, than PAY pennies a day .... any day? (I obviously an a former, and disheartened, "popular streaming" service customer.. FORMER!)
this thing runs games worse then my old computer that had a core 2 quad and an HD5770 lol
I'm thinking of one of these... just need to figure out which is best--- because I DO NOT do "gaming"-- that's a big waste of time and resourcs.. (for ME- not knocking it for those that like it)...