Dan Reconciles with His Little Brother - The Conners
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- Dan (John Goodman) goes back to see his estranged younger brother, Ed Jr. (guest star Noel Fisher), to show him that he never wanted to lose touch in the first place. Watch 'The Conners' TUESDAY 8|7c on ABC.
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You gotta love John Goodman. He’s a fine actor...
No argument there
Hes a amazing actor. Great in every Movie hes in.
Yea, i liked him ever since the revenge of the nerds one movie.
Scott Hornby He’s a disloyal asshole who threw the woman who gave him his career under the bus.
One of the best.
I adore John Goodman. He doesn't "act". He just lives the moment. 💖
OVER THE LINE!
I TOLD THAT KRAUT I DONT ROLL ON SHABOS DAY!
Wonderfully said.
hey!, that’s Mickey Miklovich from Shameless!
Darla Garner The one who plays Darlene’s daughter Haris is also from shameless
Jacob Kemezys yes I’m aware, makes me wonder what the connection is as far as producers
Yeah. I thought that was Mickey. And the actor playing Harris just does not fit if you Watched shameless. In shameless she is a young adult with a baby running a household now she playing a teenager with curfew? With Roseanne gone they needed to just end it. People need to know when to let something go
It's like after Charlie Sheen left Two and a half men. How are the ratings for this show, anybody know?
@@raephaelemasirnille5794 ABC's top sitcom
Yes
A lot of deadbeat dads do this. They don’t want their new family to see them as anything less than a great guy
Agreed
True. My dad raised three step kids while completely abandoned my two brothers and I.
My dad did this. I have at least one half sibling out there...probably more
My aunt did this when she got re-married. The family as a whole missed out on time with relatives we can never get back. Some people are shitty parents.
Is that why so many terrible parents treat their new kids so great? Do they ever consider how shitty that is to their original fucking kids?
For all these years Dan Conner has been everyone's father. Wanted the best for his children, loved them fiercely, punished them accordingly, laughed with them to make it bearable, protected those he loved. John Goodman is Dan Conner with such humility and grace. We're all so lucky to watch such a talented man.
@@opnmiys8 what show did you watch?
I understand why Dan and Little Ed wouldn't have connected through their father, but Dan and Crystal always had a good relationship. I wonder how Crystal and Little Ed's relationship is?
I doubt it, but maybe that question will be answered in the next episode.
I thought crystal was in the first season of the reboot ...
@@deesee3622 She was. I think she was in a couple of episodes.
One of the biggest implications I got was that Crystal and Big Ed got divorced sometime in the interim between the old show and the new show.
@@ACETYGRA I just thought since Crystal is Little Ed's mother and Dan and Crystal had a good relationship then Dan would have used Crystal to get to Little Ed. Unless Big Ed had custody and they didn't see her that often. I don't know.
God I love Noel Fisher so much
Fr
This one really hit hard because my dad left as soon as I was born and had 4 kids with another woman he married who recently divorced him but get this...He named his oldest son after me...I only hope he was a good dad to them because I’ll never truly know what that type of love is.
Trust me I 100% relate ..my dad's second wife and his kids with her he was dad of the year but deadbeat to his first three...my half siblings don't get it.....at least he was a good dad second time around
...that's ok..he showed me what not to do...I'd never treat my kids the way he treated us..far from actually
Now that Dan’s forgotten brother shown up, will Jackie and Roseanne’s lost sons come back from Cousin Oliverland?
Gabe Logan, I hope so.
Let's not forget Jackie's son Andy. You can drive a truck through the show's plot holes.
According to the new producers, Andy does not exist. It doesn’t make sense, but that’s what they say.
mountaingal homemaker Yes, I remembered someone saying that. I’m not sure its even in the show or that’s someone said it in an interview, but it’s the vaguest of mentions so they can ret-con if necessary.
Travis James could jackies Andy of been like a " dream" like when Roseanne wrote about them winning the lottery and Dan dying etc....in the finally of the original show? Just curious
Dan and his brother remind me of me and my older sisters. My mom was in her late teens when she had them and she was in her mid thirties when she had me. They both harbor alot of resentment towards me because I got the mom they wanted. My oldest sister has let alot of it go but my other sister hasn't. Because I don't resent our mom like she does
Do you talk to them?
Yeah, when something like that happens, it seems as though she went off and had another family and lives a different life with them. Sometimes, it’s deliberate, other times it’s not. Sometimes when they have kids early(teen years), they’ll struggle and raise the kids. Those kids grow up and leave the nest.
Then, the mom is a bit older, but still relatively young and ends up wanting to have more children. So she’ll have one or two more kids, and she’s more relaxed and settled with these younger kids than she was with the older ones. It shouldn’t breed resentment, cause the older kids are grown, out of the house with relationships, homes and families of their own. They’ve moved on. That’s life. They expected everyone else to accept it when they moved on. Everyone gets to grow up and move on. Just love each other...that’s all anyone can do.
+Destiny White In theory that should be how things go, the other side of it is that those older kids did still miss out on having the parent they needed at the time. That leaves lasting pain long after they’re adults themselves, and sadly no one suddenly has it together when they become adults and certain childhood issues tend to stick years after the fact. The best to do in those situations (from what I’ve seen anyway) is to talk it out and if necessary seek professional help to sort those remaining problems out.
Were you her "do over child"? It would explain their resentment. Has your mother ever talked to them about it
Crystal (aside from Jackie) was Roseanne’s best friend..I find it hard to believe she would keep her kids with Ed away from Dan.
Maybe Ed and Dan had one final blow-up that resulted in Crystal being afraid of him.
You also forget that Crystal was notorious for being a pushover and doing whatever her husband wanted.
Crystal was in season 10
Crystal was a push over.
Natalie's Channel 1) It’s FICTION. 2) They fired the star, creator, and namesake of the show, and just changed the name to one she also invented, and you’re not dubious about that?
The writers on this show are also the executive producers. Aka- the bosses. They did this stuff and more in real life, and they make up these stories out of whole cloth. What’s not to believe? They’re bad people. Period.
I find it hard to believe you find anything hard to believe when the people doing this crap have demonstrated they have no character or integrity.
John Goodman is such a legend!! So great to see him still working 👏👏❤️🙏🏽
Glad to see Mickey is still in Chicago!
I thought he moved to west side!
You’re gonna fit right in Mickey
Oh cool, looking forward to seeing this one! A lot storylines that the original run left; it'd be pretty cool to see them handled in a meaningful way
Ive always loved John Goodman Always felt he got the shaft all the time hes a Grear Actor keep it Coming John 🤗😘😎😇🥰❤💜🧡💛💚💙
Crystal and Dan had scenes together not too long ago, too.
little Ed will be on the next Hoarders episode.
As much as I miss Roseanne, I have to admit that was a great scene!😌
You can still hear Toto anytime you’d like!
Who did you say you miss?
@@LampwicksCigar Roseanne fool! :-)
@Mary Acosta: Do you at least get my joke now? Lol
@@LampwicksCigar Do you get my joke now? Not, Do you at least get my joke now? 😋 😆 Your so insecure! LOL :)
I should've known they were gonna use him, since they casted Emma as Harris 😂
I love this cast, its sooo... Odd.❤
Omg shameless crossovers now too, that’s so awesome, I gotta start watching again
I still don't like they made David a deadbeat dad
They could've done a better job of explaining why he couldn't be on every week. And they still gave David as such wimp character. Which was fine when he was still in high school. But now that he's an adult should grow more of a backbone.
@@joemckim1183 yes they could have said David was working out of state
@@karenmartin4927 They could've said David was working in Pasadena, wink wink
@@joemckim1183 😂😂😂😂😆😆😆
Joe McKim This is a wild guess but it seems to me that Johnny Galecki’s management made some promises they couldn’t keep. The Roseanne reboot happened at the same time as the last season of the Big Bang Theory, and CBS wasn’t as open to his working for ABC as they thought. So the Roseanne/Conners writers had to explain David’s absence in a way they hadn’t planned. Just a guess.
I feel like all characters from Shameless are gonna play guest roles on ABC shows now lol
They played the characters on the original show that’s why they are back lol
I like the show and love Laurie Metcalf.
Gotta love John Goodman
More than a little weird that you now have two "Shameless" actors on the show. What's that about?
Yeah, it's almost like actors get paid to appear on television shows to act right?
Pretty cool actually
Noel is just amazing
Noelllllll!!😍😍
brother? Wow, Dan is like 70 and this kid is like well...a kid.
Dan's father decided to take the blame for being a bad father to keep his son from finding out how messed up his father was, but then he took it too far by keeping himself and Dan's brother and sister separate from Dan to maintain the good image he had built up. While he may not have been totally to blame for what happened with his first wife, he was to blame for not even trying to reconcile with his oldest son.
There was an episode where Dan and Ed cleared the air after Dan found out the truth about his mother...Then you never saw Ed or Crystal again...
That looks like the Married With Children set
Shameless: Debbie and Mickey
Roseanne/The Conners: Harris and Ed Jr. 😅
So the Roseanne universe is in the same universe as Shameless? Actually that makes a lotta sense. Lol
Lol I watched this back when it first aired,
I kept laughing and asking Dan Me: Dan was you born in a barn shut the door. " lol I don't think I have ever seen a movie/tv show that I didn't like with him in it. His GREAT.
Brothers Shouldnt fight, Family is VERY SACRED
They were crystals kids too and she was in the first season of Roseanne when it was brought back so that means she was around Dan so that would mean they would have been around Dan
Interesting that everyone is commenting on this particular episode. A couple of questions that need a theory or explanation.
Why did Big Ed really keep Dan away from his little brother? I think that Ed wanted to keep Dan away so that he won't "poison" his brother and sister with his childhood experience.
Didn't they reconcile after Ed told the truth about Dan's mother? I remember that episode where Ed confronted the truth about Dan's mother and was done with Dan's anger toward him.
What ever happened to Loni, Dan's step-brother? I bet he ended up a criminal since he was so angry about her marrying Ed.
Why didnt't Roseanne enforce some of communication with Dan and his siblings?
strykertool You do understand these are fictional characters, and that they don’t really exist, right? Right?
@@NoThankYouToo we often try to understand the plot holes that writers give us. Calm down.
Ten bucks says John Goodman bought that hat from Meyer The Hatter. His love of New Orleans shines through. At the start of the current season he was wearing a WWOZ hat from the local indie radio station.
Can they bring Jerry and Andy on the show too? It's annoying me how they keep ignoring them as if they never existed.
@Nope Nope They addressed that on the 1st episode of the Roseanne reboot 2 YEARS AGO... So he's been in the fishing trip that long? He didn't even come home when Roseanne died.
What ever happened to Lonnie and angela
So Mickey goes from being Debbie's brother-in-law to her uncle. Okay...
Crystal was in a few episodes she got Darlene the job at that restaurant or the casino something like that???
For the longest time I tried to give Dan's dad the benefit of a doubt. But just now finding out that Ed ACTUALLY wanted to keep Dan and Ed Jr. apart? Wow, what a bastard. 😡😡
Jesus, it's just a tv show, calm down.
Little Ed is back. Now where are Andy and Jerry?
When the Roseanne reboot began it was mentioned Jerry was working in Alaska on a fishing boat.
As for Andy, I'm thinking there's possibly something darker coming up, as early in the reboot I recall Jackie stating 'Call me 'Aunt Jackie', it's the only title I've got."
WhiteArrow76 I remember the fishing boat thing, but I still think he should be on the show or mentioned more. I hope nothing bad happens with Andy
According to the new producers Andy doesn’t exist. Bizarre, but true.
Travis James well that's bullshit. Just erasing everything Jackie went through with her child's dad an everything. They shouldn't be allowed to do that if they're gonna keep Rosanne an Dan's last child around. Even though he hasn't appeared yet but still. They remove something from the original show and just add useless bull crap to this one that'll never live up to what once was unfortunately
Taurus Girl Thank you!
I always knew Terry wasn't Mickey's real dad
I Love John Goodman Yes He Is A Good Actor
Maybe Ed Jr will be a regular or on a few guest episodes..
HOLY SHIT ITA MICKY!!
Love John Goodman
I count at least three actors from Shameless who are now appearing on The Conners. Is it because of the Chicago connection?
frisco21 it's because shameless is ending connection lol
why is show still on?
I somehow knew that they were gonna kill off Ned Beatty’s role of Ed Conner Sr cause he’s retired from acting and it would be moot to replace him.
I thought he died on real life.
@@loriannkeele4328 he may have by now
I always think it's funny when you look at it the symbols of Great American dads there are a few TV stand outside really shine.
Andy Griffith, Ward Cleaver, Mr C, James Evans senior, and Dan Conner.
In my lifetime the Great American Dad has always been portrayed as someone who have to struggle just to keep food on the table. In retrospect one has to wonder is this just good dramatic television, or is it something more acute to the hardships and struggles the average American is facing
The dad from Family Matters should be added to this list.
@@robertbusek30 Carl Winslow was humorous, but realistically he was never portrayed as struggling. They had a massive house, the kids always had the most stylish of clothes, all on the salaries of two people that couldn't afford any of it. And let's not forget they had that one daughter that just vanished and no one ever mentioned her again. I'm sorry but to be a great dad you at least have to give a damn when one of your children disappears. And if anyone tries to bring up the whole Chuck disappeared on Happy Days, well Chuck was an adult man at the time, and as my uncle always pointed out there's only one reason you would completely cut ties with your college age son in the 1950s and that was if you found out your son was gay. I'm not saying that that's the right thing to do, I am saying that it is very different than your elementary School age daughter just suddenly vanishing
@@bluebeard6189 - Good points! Were the Cunninghams ever portrayed as “struggling” on “Happy Days?” I don’t recall the show all that well.
@@robertbusek30 they almost lost their family business twice.
R.I.P Ned Beatty
It just goes to show that not everyone is loved and cared for. Even among their own families.
I hate how he doesn’t seem to be Crystal’s son.
My dad did this. He went and got remarried. Adopted her little boy she had at 14. She was barely 18 and he was 36. He wanted us when they first got together to show what a good dad he was and then when she didn't like us discarded us. Our 3 younger brothers hate my sister and I. Won't have any thing to do with us.
The plot of this episode has several holes. I can see Big Ed keeping LIttle Ed and Angie away from Dan as Big Ed was kinda a jerk. But Crystal, with her being one of Dan and Roseanne's best friends, I would think that she would finally put her foot down and demand that Ed allowed Dan to have a relationship with his younger brother and sister.
Not exactly, if you remember the old show Crystal was to quote Rosanne and Jackie, She's a doormat, she would never stand up for herself. As Crystal herself put it she never had any self esteem, so the odds of her putting her foot down is very unlikely and even more unlikely is the fact that she would actually hold her ground if she did and would most likely back down if challenged.
This dude is in everything...
not in everything. also shamelesss is coming to an end soon
You make it sound like a problem 😂
@@BwaKay3 it’s not but I see him everywhere haha it’s funny, he’s like a chameleon!
@@joeyweston9001 he is though haha
Drama, comedy, John Goodman is an underrated genius.
I must admit John Goodman looked better and healthier when he had the weight on him ..... I mean yes he’s pushing close to 70 I get that but plenty of men age better than that or maybe he’s just aged gracefully without having work done.
Some people do look better big.
This show is still on the air?
i luv this show
This is the final year of The Conners.
@@joemckim1183 Now where did you hear that? There hasn't been any news stating information of that sort.
@@milesmorris9333 I could've sworn that I heard it at the beginning of the year(september) but that might've just been a rumor.
Arthur Morgan it is and is doing well.
Is this where everyone in Shameless is ending up? 😆
Dan brother from Shamless and Debbie on here 2.
Crazy seeing some of the cast of shameless on the show.
I’m right in thinking that this is the kid he (Dan’s father) had with Crystal correct?
Ed jr kinda looks like Ned Betty
Was that Crystals boy all grown up? I know Dans dad married her (against Dans wishes), and she had a son. Lonny, I think was his name.
William Meyer Lonny was Crystal's son from a previous relationship
i think this was little Ed
According to this scene little Ed had a sister. So did Ed and Crystal have another kid after Ed or did Lonnie have a sex change?
@@babygirl9397 in the original show, there was lonnie, then lil ed, then crystal got pregnant again and had a little girl.
@@kimidanger1150 thank you. I forgot she had the little girl
Letting all the heat out Dan close the damn door
ouch the structure of this show has dive bombed since roseanne departure
I love Noel
Omg it's mickey from shameless!!!!! Oh yessssss! He is the best actor ever!!
Stuckey from SVU!
1:06 Great directing...just a touch was all that was necessary
Two people from Shameless now
Guess no mention of Lonnie!!!
Alan Williams why does there need to be?
Lonnie's got a family of his own, so he probably left Lanford.
Straight from the cast of shameless pt 2
That was crystals son with the father.. I gotta start watching.
Are they retconning Crystal being Little Ed's mother?
I thought Crystal was always been Lil' Ed's mother? I could be wrong though. On Roseanne, if I remember, Ed and Dan had a huge falling out over Dan's mother being put in an mental institute and also the fact he ended up Marrying Crystal (who ended up having Little Ed). But, I thought Ed and Dan ended up reconciling and wanted to be part of each others lives again...
@@sergie2822: Yes, but the mental health issue of Dan's mom wasnt wrote in until the end of Roseanne. Before the metal illness episode, Dan's mom was only in Roseanne once, in the 2nd season, for Thanksgiving. She was totally normal and owned her own travel agency, so the whole mental illness thing was kinda weird in the original series.
PB & J oh yeah! I remember the mom being a travel agent. Totally agree that it was kind of odd. Seemed so out of place...
The kids are great 👍 but the old👴man and characters still got it
I'm glad in this saga, they kept that Dan's dad was a bad dad and that he took this crap because of how a psycho Dan's mom was and wanted to protect him. He just did that job too well that it went out of control. Unfortunately, all of his kids and step-son suffered. No one deserves that.
Wow I didn't know that Noel was on the Connor
No one wins when a parent abandons one family to find fulfillment with another. It wasn't enough that Dan's father had to put him down his whole childhood because he was miserable being married to Dan's mother, he abandoned him with an unstable woman and offered no support for all of his adult life. Then suddenly he comes back, shacks up with Dan and Roseanne's widowed friend Crystal, has a couple more kids and actually goes out of his way to distance his old family from his new one!
Dan looks like Richard Lewis now that he's older rofl
It must’ve hurt Dan someone else got called Ed jr.
What a touching scene, and all they had to do to get this to work is to ignore the continuity of the original run of the show and ignore the continuity of the first season of the Conners. I wanted the show to be good but I had my doubts at the Roseanne was kicked out, but they have no talented writers apparently or they have people that will piss on continuity just for a bit of drama.
I never knew Dan had a little brother!
Yes a little half/brother and half/sister. I think Ed Jr. mentioned his sister in this episode.
Angela or Ruby?
He also has a stepbrother.
Yes he had a little half sister, his half brother little ed, and he has a step brother lonny.
Isnt crystal his mom? Wasn’t she on this show awhile ago as a guest star?
Yes she is and she was in the return of the show when Roseanne was on it
She left when Roseanne got fired. And I still refuse to believe what Roseanne said was racist. Given how she touched base on racism in so many older episodes. From & In the 90's at that.
Its no secret Sarah wanted the spotlight, and Emma jumped on the bandwagon with her mouth.
They kicked Roseanne to the curb and made a whole new show. But none of them would be who they are, if not for Roseanne.
Let me mention the many child stars who appeared on Roseanne, and thats how they got their start to fame.
From toby mcquire , to leo DiCaprio, to MR CLOONEY..
And many more. Down to Molly, the neighbor..
Clooney wasnt a child star, but him being on the show really got him Where he is today. And that's a FACT.
Clooney played Booker.
Jackie's love interest and boss, at the factory.
@@BwaKay3 With all due respect, ER made Clooney, not Roseanne (or Facts Of Life, on which he also had a bit part). Had it not been for his breakout on ER, he would arguably still be doing bit parts on television.
@@BwaKay3 molly the neighbor did the, The Last Boy Scout, b4 she did Roseanne.
So Chris Noth gets connected to John Goodman. The actor who plays Little Ed is also Dale Stucky on SVU, but before that he was the son of Joan Jett's character from the Criminal Intent ep where she's murdered by the stepmother who was attempting to turn the singer Jett's character had her son with in for a newer model in Jett's character's son. The Joan Jett ep was a Logan and Wheeler ep.
TennantJunkie1993 he also plays Mickey Milkovich on Shameless.
@@winchesterangel2726 Someone already said that, but I thought L&O franchise first since I don't watch Shameless nor do I have Showtime. If I wanted to bring up connecting deepdive wise Tobey Maguire to John Goodman, I'd have said that.
What does any of this shit have to do with the cinners who the fuck cares who else this actor plays. Yes, rescan actor, utscwjat he does circa living.so you'll probably seem him on presentations from time. Ppl just shut up seriously!
He was also the son in The Riches," if anyone remembers that show. It starred Eddie Izzard and Minnie Driver as modern day gypsies or "travelers".
@@archiesimpson5172 And Dale Stuckey.
it's the kid from Shameless
Is that fuckin Micky?! And Deb in one series lol
I see all these comments about where is jackie son i know he gave all his toys away to a little girl and went off to college.
Omg I just realized that both her characters' sons were named Andy!
Another Shameless star. Imagine that. Dan and Ed were over their rough patch I thought. Wonder if Crystal and Ed were still married when he died. they must have gotten divorced. Ed became a hoarder. What about Ed's stepson Lonnie? There are a lot of holes and gaps to the history that shouldn't be hard to explain if they wanted to. Where is Jerry and Andy? Maybe they both are on that boat still with Chuck Cunningham. There is a wealth of material to write about. i Miss Roseanne. Hate me for saying it if you want. I don't care. I still love Jackie and Dan. They are the two reasons I still watch.
Howard Fuller so do I the show is not the same without Roseanne
@@puddiesimms2818 i wish she had stood her ground. Now the conners aren't just poor. They're like the bundys. Complete with peg. I watch in hopes it gets better. It's hard to give up on this family. They still make me laugh. I just dont think Ed would turn his back on his son dan. Its out of character.😕
This show is still on
No Andy or jerry ????
Mickey you're in the wrong show!
The Shameless connection
Wonder whatever happened to Lonnie, that poor kid was always depressed
Is it just me or are they slowly bringing in all the actors from shameless lol
The original sitcom was pretty good, initially. The reboot is unrealistically dark. I keep expecting to find one of them cooking meth out in the garage.
I agree!! But sadly it also parallels the times
Old man 👴 still got it
3 actors from shameless were on The Connors