One thing I miss in the original that's missing in the definitive edition is that in san andreas each city and countryside had their own weather effect that makes them different from one another but in the definitive edition they all have the same weather but as for gta 3 I remember the city was dark and gritty but in the definitive edition it's just dark and doesn't have that gloomy look anymore, but as for vice city I like how the sky looks especially at sunset
the grit in the original gta 3 i feel was from its lack of vibrant color especially compared to vice city and sa. the remaster enhances the color among many other things… had gsg left the “grittiness” in people would be complaining
That's because the GSG developers didn't had a clue how to properly implement the timecycle.dat file from PS2 to the new unreal engine. If they did it correctly they would've preserved the original feel. Add draw distance fog and improving the character models is all the game needs. But it ain't gonna happen.
The best thing about it is that you can experience the old games on a new console. I just ordered it and I don't have to look for second hand games and a PS2.
Eventough the Definitive Edition has many downsights I personally enjoy it on its own way. Graphically is definetly a major improvement especially compared to the PS2 versions. It is great that these had 10th Anniversary (IOS & Android) version after 10 years of release. And 20 years after GTA 3. Damn, I can't believe how time flies!
Number 10 is the definitive edition is making people appreciate the originals a lot more. Even with the issues the originals had they were just better in almost every single way.
I still don’t understand why Rockstar palmed off their main cash cow game to an outside studio, worst decision ever. Also why didn’t they release each game individually on their 20th anniversary and then release GTA 6 in 2025 one year after San Andreas remastered dropped. This keeps people playing GTA from 2021 to 2025 and stops all the memes about being dead by the time they release another game while also allowing Rockstar more time between games to make sure any bugs/glitches/issues are fully fixed. They had an amazing opportunity with these definitive editions, and they blew it so badly.
I agree with your point about checkpoints: I find satisfaction in completing a mission in one go (especially if it’s hard) without any hand holding, but I understand those that dislike redoing the boring sections such as driving back. I think GTA 4’s fail mechanic did this the best by allowing you to instantly restart the mission, but from the very beginning. Also, #10 could be that there are more accessible options in the settings menu?
But if they had a mission replayability feature it would've been a cherry on top of the cake. I can always replay my favourite missions like Demolition man and Rub out in Vice City.
@@allstargaming2500 That feature would be awesome! Especially since GTA 5 and TBOGT have it. Even repeating side missions like Rampages would be cool too (VCS has this feature). I like doing the fun, chaotic, and engaging missions like Messing with the Man, A Drop in the Ocean, and Black Project.
@@Badinfos it's really annoying that they kept the first person aim in the m60 when they could have easily removed it and how clunky and hard to control tommy is especially, but i still see it as a positive because at least you can now see tommy and Claude's faces something which bothered me a lot as a kid Overall it's like many other things in the remaster; they can't do a good thing without messing it up in a way or another
@@Badinfos You are 50% right and 50% wrong. Yes the camera movement is very slow and sometimes clunky. Also they got rid of the unique features from the games like Jumping Back and Walking Sideways and Walking back. That was hella fun back in the day just to see Tommy Dance like that. But atleast you can take a look around you whenever you need and it is not entirely necessary to use it everywhere.
To be honest I love the originals and forbid myself on getting the trilogy but recently got it cause I missed playing gta 3 and vice city and to be honest the games do look way much more smoother and it’s nice playing it in better graphics. I actually got addicted to the game again. But my heart will still be with the og’s but I will say to people to just give it the game a shot. Game play is nice and it’s good to know about the story’s. Vice city’s sunsets and night time vibes really do look way much eye catching
For me the only great thing about the Definitive Edition is the GTA 5 style control scheme. But then on the originals on PC there's the GInput mod that lets me put a GTA 4 style control scheme. But the DE has the weapon wheel from GTA 5 which is very useful as you said.
Also in 3 and VC. You can replay the mission from the start after confirming a replay screen. LCS mobile doesn't have that and felt like the originals in that aspect. I think LCS mobile is by far the best mobile port Rockstar did. It has butter smooth gameplay and much better camera controls.
hey badi, i have a question, do you maybe have a website link where i could download GTA San Andreas, recently restarted my system, and i tried multiple sites but noone of them had audio files.
well i don't hear horning sounds, sounds when im driving a car and in the mission when lets say im driving i don't hear what they are saying, its making my game really "empty" if i can say so.
For me, definitely the winner feature of the definitive edition is the weapon wheel. Even though I remember the layout of weapons after I scroll through them, I just don’t want to scroll, and a weapon wheel is a perfect replacement.
In my personal opinion, the definitive with mods on pc just make it soo good, graphics mod, a reshade and fog fix just make it look amazing, and ue4 lets graphics mods look so much better than in the OGs
For number 10 for me at least i can point that gta 3 has a full map now in game without mods that was a big thing for me because i played gta 3 on ps4 with the ps2 port and it did not have full map and i did not use mods
Honestly looking at the DE just makes me sad.... i keep thinking about what would've been the best remaster of the century only to be messed up by a mobile game studio
We know there are flaws but im thankful they fixed framerate because running a 2011 port on my phone at 140 frames will literally kill me when i walk outside the portland savehouse
In the definitive trilogy. Only Vice City looks and plays the best. It got the right improvements. The graphics upgrade didn't look very off rather it made it more beautiful. But the only thing that holds it back is that it's a port from the mobile version. Which has some changes from the originals. And the bugs it has.
I can’t lie I do like how vice city looks with it’s nice colours and how the countryside looks in the definitive editions, but I can’t lie I do not like the camera on these definitive games. I don’t like how the camera auto adjusts itself to be central, especially in vehicles.
nah u totally right man all points are valid, all these cool features yet the game aint the same alot of new issues, alot of potentials and lots of opportunities missed , og issues unfixed its a mess im glad they fixed alot since the release and thats much appreciated for their hard work given the circumstances but lets hope sincerely they finish the job and take this to the next level, actually deserve the title “definitive edition”. I only wish they work with the community; fans players and modders instead of suing them
I hope there will be a big update like the XIII remake, but I doubt it because the mobile release date is TBA. To be honest, Grove Street Games and Rockstar Dundee had to be remastered(Platform: Switch, Mobile), and Rockstar Leeds and Rockstar North had to be made 20th anniversary remakes.
The ONLY way I could play this (as soon as I get the proper hardware), is if there are mods to completely rework the ENTIRE trilogy (not just textures and items/vehicles, but also props, terrain, effects, physics, scripts, and more). This has the advantage of being on UE4, so there are LOTS of games under this engine with HELLA INSANE graphics and physics! Otherwise, I'd stay with the originals.
How i see it is that it's completely based on preference. If you like better graphics but dont care about bugs, you would prefer definitive. But if you like Less bugs and older games, you would pick the OG version.
You forgot about aiming, the original gta 3 and vice city have an awful aiming, in definitive edition is a lot of better (Sorry if my English is not perfect)
And if they can’t add it, Rockstar can so why saints row does when players are in water press the button to go back on surface. Or even Spider-Man 2 and Ultimate Spider-Man, you fall in water and just spot back on foot.
Yeah a lot of things are better... But it had so much potential and fan made mods were even better if only actual rockstar remade it like gta v and red dead redemption 2 style
@@Adaki14 yeah your right I think the main reason why GTA SA de has more bugs it's because (the same thing goes for GTA 3 & GTA Vice city) it uses the shitty mobile port of the game rather than the PS2/PC/Xbox Original one
I haven't even got to play it then I heard as well as seen all these stuff on this compilation. I ended up insulting it while comparing the game to other, better game compilations. Like Konami has a similar reputation that Rockstar has. Yet they did allow other companies to make some decent compilations including Castlevania Advance Collection and TMNT: The Cowabunga Collection. Even Sega Genesis Classics on Steam is way better too. This is unacceptable!!!
Not for me I give it a 3 it’s bad. Because it’s missing skip ⏭ ⏭ a sedition during missions and also when you fail a mission during a mission or free play and I concur on what you said about gta the trilogy the definitive edition and to me I really want skip ⏭ a section when you fail a mission or section when your character get wasted during the mission like the train mission in gta the trilogy the definitive edition. And I definitely want to keep radio and weapon wheel that’s something I would definitely like to keep in gta 3,vice city,San Andreas,liberty city,vice city stories,gta 4,lost and the damned,battle of gay Tony 8 gta video games 🎮 to get a remake. And every song 🎵 is gonna be there too. And tommy vercetti and Claude speed is gonna swim for the very first time too.
On some real shit, just the fact that the M16 & Kruger have ANY form of auto-aim so I don’t have to deal with the AWFUL recoil (unless you were on PC) makes me enjoy TDE more. POWERFUL guns, shit to attempt to properly use in the originals. I think I only prefer the OGs for the soundtracks & SOME of the models (80% of San Andreas models looked like ass & SOMEHOW inferior to GTA 3 & VC anyway)
I had no problems with this trilogy. Never ran into any glitches I’ve seen on TH-cam. Now we aren’t getting red dead 1 and gta 4 remastered because of whiner’s
![GTA Vice City Speedrun - Any% SSU - 8:38 [PB]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/EoEGEdBucvU/mqdefault.jpg)
One thing I miss in the original that's missing in the definitive edition is that in san andreas each city and countryside had their own weather effect that makes them different from one another but in the definitive edition they all have the same weather but as for gta 3 I remember the city was dark and gritty but in the definitive edition it's just dark and doesn't have that gloomy look anymore, but as for vice city I like how the sky looks especially at sunset
In desert, it has ballas weather, which is even present on iOS/Android version but i ain't sure if it exists on DE too
the grit in the original gta 3 i feel was from its lack of vibrant color especially compared to vice city and sa. the remaster enhances the color among many other things… had gsg left the “grittiness” in people would be complaining
That's because the GSG developers didn't had a clue how to properly implement the timecycle.dat file from PS2 to the new unreal engine. If they did it correctly they would've preserved the original feel. Add draw distance fog and improving the character models is all the game needs. But it ain't gonna happen.
@@Michael-lu2tz there was a need of an option to bring back the dark Liberty City from the colourful kids driving simulator
Everyone just talks about San andreas, and complains about its definite edition. Just shut up and enjoy
The best thing about it is that you can experience the old games on a new console. I just ordered it and I don't have to look for second hand games and a PS2.
6:47 I feel number 10 should be that you could increase the dialogue volume.
Eventough the Definitive Edition has many downsights I personally enjoy it on its own way. Graphically is definetly a major improvement especially compared to the PS2 versions. It is great that these had 10th Anniversary (IOS & Android) version after 10 years of release. And 20 years after GTA 3.
Damn, I can't believe how time flies!
How do you guys play the classic version of these games?
@@MichaelInsightfulbuy it on an old console, or get into emulating.
Number 10 is the definitive edition is making people appreciate the originals a lot more.
Even with the issues the originals had they were just better in almost every single way.
How do you guys play the classic version of these games?
@@MichaelInsightful Yiu have to buy a key off G2A.
@@MichaelInsightfulJust pirate it. It's not that hard
@@zynepq I'm trying atm to find mods for GTA SA for the Steam version, the OG version
@@zynepq Cus the vanilla version of OG SA is kinda sucky too on PC
I still don’t understand why Rockstar palmed off their main cash cow game to an outside studio, worst decision ever. Also why didn’t they release each game individually on their 20th anniversary and then release GTA 6 in 2025 one year after San Andreas remastered dropped. This keeps people playing GTA from 2021 to 2025 and stops all the memes about being dead by the time they release another game while also allowing Rockstar more time between games to make sure any bugs/glitches/issues are fully fixed. They had an amazing opportunity with these definitive editions, and they blew it so badly.
How do you guys play the classic version of these games?
It isn't outside studio . Its a studio under Rockstar .
@@MichaelInsightful Piracy always works
I agree with your point about checkpoints: I find satisfaction in completing a mission in one go (especially if it’s hard) without any hand holding, but I understand those that dislike redoing the boring sections such as driving back. I think GTA 4’s fail mechanic did this the best by allowing you to instantly restart the mission, but from the very beginning.
Also, #10 could be that there are more accessible options in the settings menu?
But if they had a mission replayability feature it would've been a cherry on top of the cake. I can always replay my favourite missions like Demolition man and Rub out in Vice City.
@@allstargaming2500 That feature would be awesome! Especially since GTA 5 and TBOGT have it. Even repeating side missions like Rampages would be cool too (VCS has this feature). I like doing the fun, chaotic, and engaging missions like Messing with the Man, A Drop in the Ocean, and Black Project.
How do you guys play the classic version of these games?
You missed one thing
Free camera movement on foot and the aiming button. Claude and Tommy no longer move with the mouse
I actually see that as a negative, it's why I didn't mention it :)
@@Badinfos it's really annoying that they kept the first person aim in the m60 when they could have easily removed it and how clunky and hard to control tommy is especially, but i still see it as a positive because at least you can now see tommy and Claude's faces something which bothered me a lot as a kid
Overall it's like many other things in the remaster; they can't do a good thing without messing it up in a way or another
@@Badinfos You are 50% right and 50% wrong. Yes the camera movement is very slow and sometimes clunky. Also they got rid of the unique features from the games like Jumping Back and Walking Sideways and Walking back. That was hella fun back in the day just to see Tommy Dance like that. But atleast you can take a look around you whenever you need and it is not entirely necessary to use it everywhere.
How do you guys play the classic version of these games?
I love that camera movement I wish console had that as an option
Number 10 is just the fact I can play it on the go on Switch. Wish the originals were able to be ported over.
How do you guys play the classic version of these games?
Getting a PS2 and copies of the games is one option
@@barktrap They probably meant that, them playing on the switch means they can play it on the go!
I'd imagine it was hard to find at least 10 good things from the trilogy 😂
Hard to find just one
Not for me.
Unless it's SA DE
@@darkel1269 only gta sa de is bad
@@VailingD agreed
@@Adaki14 it's all CRAP
2021 Definitive Edition: Lame Trash.
2023 Definitive Edition: *STILL* Lame Trash.
You can't say the whole thing trash
But they fucked up gta san andreas
To be honest I love the originals and forbid myself on getting the trilogy but recently got it cause I missed playing gta 3 and vice city and to be honest the games do look way much more smoother and it’s nice playing it in better graphics. I actually got addicted to the game again. But my heart will still be with the og’s but I will say to people to just give it the game a shot. Game play is nice and it’s good to know about the story’s. Vice city’s sunsets and night time vibes really do look way much eye catching
How do you guys play the classic version of these games?
Great video as always Badinfos keep it up
How do you guys play the classic version of these games?
For me the only great thing about the Definitive Edition is the GTA 5 style control scheme. But then on the originals on PC there's the GInput mod that lets me put a GTA 4 style control scheme. But the DE has the weapon wheel from GTA 5 which is very useful as you said.
2:40 R* added checkpoints in Mobile version but only SA
Also in 3 and VC. You can replay the mission from the start after confirming a replay screen. LCS mobile doesn't have that and felt like the originals in that aspect. I think LCS mobile is by far the best mobile port Rockstar did. It has butter smooth gameplay and much better camera controls.
hey badi, i have a question, do you maybe have a website link where i could download GTA San Andreas, recently restarted my system, and i tried multiple sites but noone of them had audio files.
well i don't hear horning sounds, sounds when im driving a car and in the mission when lets say im driving i don't hear what they are saying, its making my game really "empty" if i can say so.
How do you guys play the classic version of these games?
For me, definitely the winner feature of the definitive edition is the weapon wheel.
Even though I remember the layout of weapons after I scroll through them, I just don’t want to scroll, and a weapon wheel is a perfect replacement.
Where’s skip ⏭ a section aka skip ⏭ mission like 👍 gta 5 does have skip mission when you get stuck during a mission?
How do you guys play the classic version of these games?
Anyone else reminded of that old SpongeBob episode?
Badinfos: *"WHAT I LIKE ABOUT DEFINITIVE EDITION IS-! WHAT I LIKE ABOUT DEFINITIVE EDITION IS-!"*
well at least the Defective Edition has better controller constrols
Yeah
@Float Samples yeah the game was aimed more for console market imo
In my personal opinion, the definitive with mods on pc just make it soo good, graphics mod, a reshade and fog fix just make it look amazing, and ue4 lets graphics mods look so much better than in the OGs
I personally love the Definitive Trilogy. I know I'm in the minority and I'm fine with that.
Same
Weirdos
@@danielulrich1243 to each, their own.
People who prefer the def.ed over the originals probably also enjoy staring into the toilet bowl for several hours before flushing...
Without checkpoints isnt problem for me though i mainly play at mobile, but i also used to play on PC without checkpoints
Nice vid! 🙂
For number 10 for me at least i can point that gta 3 has a full map now in game without mods that was a big thing for me because i played gta 3 on ps4 with the ps2 port and it did not have full map and i did not use mods
They also added facial animation for most background characters in some cutscene (Vice City)
Honestly looking at the DE just makes me sad.... i keep thinking about what would've been the best remaster of the century only to be messed up by a mobile game studio
We know there are flaws but im thankful they fixed framerate because running a 2011 port on my phone at 140 frames will literally kill me when i walk outside the portland savehouse
Imagine if we mod and add these 10 features to the original
In the definitive trilogy. Only Vice City looks and plays the best. It got the right improvements. The graphics upgrade didn't look very off rather it made it more beautiful. But the only thing that holds it back is that it's a port from the mobile version. Which has some changes from the originals. And the bugs it has.
Gta 3 is good too
Only gta sa is fuckes up
Very good video nice work.
I can’t lie I do like how vice city looks with it’s nice colours and how the countryside looks in the definitive editions, but I can’t lie I do not like the camera on these definitive games. I don’t like how the camera auto adjusts itself to be central, especially in vehicles.
nah u totally right man all points are valid, all these cool features yet the game aint the same alot of new issues, alot of potentials and lots of opportunities missed , og issues unfixed its a mess im glad they fixed alot since the release and thats much appreciated for their hard work given the circumstances but lets hope sincerely they finish the job and take this to the next level, actually deserve the title “definitive edition”.
I only wish they work with the community; fans players and modders instead of suing them
Badinfos is right you like what you like
Small correction to the description: you wrote "hte" instead of "the".
Fixed, thanks!
I hope there will be a big update like the XIII remake, but I doubt it because the mobile release date is TBA.
To be honest, Grove Street Games and Rockstar Dundee had to be remastered(Platform: Switch, Mobile), and Rockstar Leeds and Rockstar North had to be made 20th anniversary remakes.
So.....we all gonna forget about parallex interiors?
At least (apart for the 3d models of npcs and characters) the graphic is good
They have added way more detail to the engines of vehicles too.
Source?
How do you guys play the classic version of these games?
The ONLY way I could play this (as soon as I get the proper hardware), is if there are mods to completely rework the ENTIRE trilogy (not just textures and items/vehicles, but also props, terrain, effects, physics, scripts, and more).
This has the advantage of being on UE4, so there are LOTS of games under this engine with HELLA INSANE graphics and physics! Otherwise, I'd stay with the originals.
How i see it is that it's completely based on preference. If you like better graphics but dont care about bugs, you would prefer definitive. But if you like Less bugs and older games, you would pick the OG version.
I think one day, im going to beat all missions in gta sa mobile without using any checkpoints
@Float Samples yeah controls, but no no no, controls are easier to me, so i dont think it matters
All you have to do is just when you fail a mission don't use the checkpoints. If you own the 360 and PS3 version it's just the mobile version.
@@garrysmith1029 i dont have any consoles.
@@FAM3Kane I said if. Well you want to do it without a controller on mobile using touch screen go for it.
You forgot about aiming, the original gta 3 and vice city have an awful aiming, in definitive edition is a lot of better
(Sorry if my English is not perfect)
i want tommy vercetti and Claude speed to swim 🏊♂.
And if they can’t add it, Rockstar can so why saints row does when players are in water press the button to go back on surface. Or even Spider-Man 2 and Ultimate Spider-Man, you fall in water and just spot back on foot.
@@solidmage1720 true.
Mostly agreed, but I can't judge because I haven't tried the definitive edition.
number 10 is the best(the wheal is usefull).
changed the engine changed the characters in GTA Trilogy Definitive Edition from the last Patch but still Remastered
i wish we had more settings options and wish they had the stats as they were ❌❌❌❌
the 10th thing uhhh
i mean i bought the game for steam achievements so that's neat
AH, AUTO SAVES AND CLOUD SAVES
Im your biggest fan since 2017
What about skip sedition skip ⏭ mission just like gta 5 does have?
The defective edition just ruins our childhood lol
But it's M-Rated.
1 HOUR LATE SQUAD WHERE YOU AT?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
Yeah a lot of things are better...
But it had so much potential and fan made mods were even better if only actual rockstar remade it like gta v and red dead redemption 2 style
Nice video the Def editon is just eh and no one will blame you for not getting 10 things becasue this version SUCKS
Don't get me wrong but i love DE cos of funny bugs lmao🤣🤣🤣
But at the same time it's pretty annoying to see
@@random-user3682 not for me bro
@@random-user3682 well the 90% problem comes from gta sa de
Other 3 and vc don't even have many bugs
You need to actually spend time finding some
@@Adaki14 yeah your right I think the main reason why GTA SA de has more bugs it's because (the same thing goes for GTA 3 & GTA Vice city) it uses the shitty mobile port of the game rather than the PS2/PC/Xbox Original one
@@random-user3682 and it makes sense
Gta sa mobile port was trash compare to vice city and 3 mobile ports
this man didnt make anyone angry
the armor is bad but the fuel is ok 👌🏻.
Bugs and glitches we hate bugs and glitches in gta the trilogy the definitive edition we want a refund.
Number 10 is vegetation
I haven't even got to play it then I heard as well as seen all these stuff on this compilation. I ended up insulting it while comparing the game to other, better game compilations. Like Konami has a similar reputation that Rockstar has. Yet they did allow other companies to make some decent compilations including Castlevania Advance Collection and TMNT: The Cowabunga Collection. Even Sega Genesis Classics on Steam is way better too. This is unacceptable!!!
While gta 3 and gta vc definitive edition are not that bad
Gta sa definitive edition is definitely worse among the 3
Not for me I give it a 3 it’s bad. Because it’s missing skip ⏭ ⏭ a sedition during missions and also when you fail a mission during a mission or free play and I concur on what you said about gta the trilogy the definitive edition and to me I really want skip ⏭ a section when you fail a mission or section when your character get wasted during the mission like the train mission in gta the trilogy the definitive edition. And I definitely want to keep radio and weapon wheel that’s something I would definitely like to keep in gta 3,vice city,San Andreas,liberty city,vice city stories,gta 4,lost and the damned,battle of gay Tony 8 gta video games 🎮 to get a remake. And every song 🎵 is gonna be there too. And tommy vercetti and Claude speed is gonna swim for the very first time too.
Defective edition has great graphics, just many bugs and glitches.
Just the fact that the game was remastered by mobile game companies make me neutral towards the game
Well stability compared to the original ones.
On some real shit, just the fact that the M16 & Kruger have ANY form of auto-aim so I don’t have to deal with the AWFUL recoil (unless you were on PC) makes me enjoy TDE more. POWERFUL guns, shit to attempt to properly use in the originals. I think I only prefer the OGs for the soundtracks & SOME of the models (80% of San Andreas models looked like ass & SOMEHOW inferior to GTA 3 & VC anyway)
The 2 things I like in gta trilogy remaster gta vc and gta 3
Vegetation is the best part of this game
I had no problems with this trilogy. Never ran into any glitches I’ve seen on TH-cam. Now we aren’t getting red dead 1 and gta 4 remastered because of whiner’s
It's because of nostalgic people
Good for u. Ig u have good pc
graphics are great yes but the game lost it vibe it had iconic colors and atmosphere specially on ps2, now its a whiff of that
GTA the trilogy the definitive edition very cool 😎
I need gta 3 remake.
ya'll can say whatever you want but for me, this game is totally lost and just doesn't hold up to the original
10. Foliage
Sunshine!
1:03p.m. 2/24/2023
I mean edition.
Bruh even 10th anniversary of these games look better than this
Definitive edition sucks so hard, bro ran out of ideas for number 10
I actually like the definitive edition. I don't get the hate.
Have you even played the originals?
@@garrysmith1029 yeah and I love them too
@@mrclaude5382 me: *has an opinion*
You: *insults me for some reason*
The graphics are ass in DE, games lose its atmosphere and it still has alot of bugs
The hate is bcus it NEEDS many much needed patching/fixing still after 1yr. R* doesnt care anymore
Try gta vice city vhs edition it's greaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat!!!!!!!
The original have 10000000 things better
The swimming in the definition of gta sa is soooo painfully slow -_-
Limit it to 30 fps
100 problems- 10 good things, what a trash trilogy
These games are so dated
What (
What about skip ⏭?