10. Eh, she's more interesting than Kitana for me. 9. never played it 8. Count Bastard, yeah, i hete him too 7, so sheis the reason 06 gets a lot of hate? besides Silver i mean 6. old one 5. at least he's not a sore loser, like mario. 4. doesn't surprise me 3. Him again? if Travis didn't kill his father to begin with he wouldn't have to face him 2. That bastard! 1. You don't mess with Phoenix Wright
Thank goodness you don't hate Apollo because I know a lot of the fandom hates him for some reason but I really like his character and sympathize for him. And yeah I agree with a lot of these, especially Bill Hawks and Kristoph Gavin.
@@medusathedecepticon I guess it was because they felt like he was replacing Phoenix. Frankly, I think it's dumb reason to hate on Apollo since he's a great character who stands on his own merit, and Phoenix isn't going anywhere. He returned in the next game and by the time of the last case in the 6th game, they stood together not as mentor and apprentice, but equals.
OH MY GOD WILL BILL HAWKS JUST DIE ALREADY!!! All through the game I kept yelling at him (at appearances) and at the ending I lost it! Clive never got his full 'justice' because Bill never paid for it!!! -Sorry for rant-
Mr. Green Scorpion, thank you. Thanks to you and this video a few years back, I started getting into both the Professor Layton and Ace Attorney series. I hadn't gotten into them before because I thought I might not get into them. After this, I thought that I should try to give them a chance. And so I did. What I got was the BEST VIDEO GAME EXPERIENCE IN MY LIFE! I now know what a fool I was and with PLvsAA around the corner I can say that I look forward to them with gusto. Thank you for opening my eyes to what I was missing.
You see, this is why I love your videos Oscar. Your reasoning, writing, choices, and best of all, your acting make me feel sympathy, love, or in this case, hatred for characters and games. You are a amazing TH-camr.
I'd switch Kristoph and Bill around, but only because I think that Kristoph is a good antagonist. I think that Bill is so much worse than Kristoph, I can actually feel the anger in my stomach at him
I couldn't contain my laughter when Exdeath showed up on screen. For all of the reasons you mentioned, I floppin' love him. He's so cool. I feel the same way for Albert Wesker. They're both so generic and hilarious, but badass at the same time. I love 'em.
You are correct about Birdo. Birdo was originally introduced in the early Mario games as a boy that dresses as a girl... and he used the name Katherine in the Japanese version. He was changed to the female Birdo in the US version. Later the Japanese version became female. She is still Katherine in the Japanese and Birdo in the US/English version.
Personally, I hate Elise for her relationship with Sonic, as, I apologise beforehand, is bizarre to me, she gets kidnapped SIX times in one game and she comes across as heartless as she never cried for anyone else except for Sonic, a person she knew for less than a day and how she said "I don't care what happens to the world" because she's saying she wouldn't care what would happen to her subjects, who may die, because she wouldn't remember Sonic who, again, she barely knew, how is she better?
I can’t wait to see this video get remade. This was the first Greenscorpion video I ever watched and I can’t wait to see where your thoughts have changed over the years.
Filip Melzacki That's fine, but I think she's an abysmal character in both character and writing, just by concept alone, and her execution was laughably flawed.
There was also the fact that her relationship with Sonic was weird, which makes the kiss worse and at times she could come across as heartless, like how she never cried up until Sonic died, and never cried at her father's death, but at someone she barely knew or how she said she doesn't care what would happen, because she wouldn't meet Sonic, again, someone she barely knew.
I think the laugh that #1 let loose was his last bits of sanity slipping away from him, he was just defeated by the very person he trained and the worlds greatest lawyer...
Consider this: After the events of Unwound Future, Dimitri, even though he would close the book on the time machine forever, decided to still make another machine to save Claire. He bails Clive out of jail, and together the two successfully make a new time machine. They go back in time before the incident, and try to stop Bill from meeting with the funder. They realize that the funder is actually a person who subsequently had a grudge against Layton, who wants to take revenge on Layton for defeating him by killing Claire. The combined efforts of Clive and Dimitri defeat him. Afterwards, the original time machine is fixed, it becomes a success, and Clive begins to work with Layton, who gets married to Claire. Also, Hawks becomes Prime Minister, but he plays it fairly.
This video deserves a revamp. Would be nice to see Oscar tackle 'Top 10 characters meant to be hated' (things that hit on the spot by the devs. Trope: Hate Sink.), 'Top 10 hated characters that wasn't meant to be hated.' (Trope: The Scrappy, Jerks Are Worse Than Villains, Unintentionally Unsympathetic), what with the maturity and improvement of acting Oscar has accumulated so far.
I only checked this out because I recognized the Layton screenshot in the thumbnail. I couldn't tell what it was. Just that it looked like it was from a Layton game. And I couldn't think of anyone who was worthy of hate in these games. Then you got to the Layton entry, and I was like, "Oh, yeah, THAT asshole." In retrospect, the only reason he didn't come to mind is that I haven't played Unwound Future recently. I also agree not only with #6, but with how you presented it. Really doesn't need any words, does it? As for your #1, Kristoph's a love-to-hate-him character to me. I always love those manipulative villains. (And to be fair, Zak Gramarye is kind of a jerk that brought some of it on himself.)
13:08 what did you call elise? i must've went back and tried to listen to what you say at least 10 times and i have no clue what you said :( it sounded like you said ''grating xufiliac'' but i have no clue who that is or what that is, and when i tried googling i got nothing :(
If only this list would've been remade. Kristoph Gavin would be replaced by Blaise Debeste from AAI2, that sick fuck was responsible for every single bad thing in the first three games
I'm glad that a Phoenix Wright character was on the list because there are so many people to hate in that franchise! In fact, I could make a whole top 10 list of characters I hate just from PW games!
I don't know if you've played Dual Destinies since making this list, but if you have.... SPOILERS - - - - You probably have even MORE of a reason for hating Kristoph Gavin, since his actions were partly responsible for the rise of the "dark age of the law", where the trust between the public and the law crumbled and attorneys and prosecutors focused more on winning, with forged evidence left, right and centre. Granted he wasn't the only person responsible, but even so, he had a part in doing so.
I saw this video and I recognized a scene from the Professor Layton series, I was thinking "You get a problem with Layton bruh?!". I thought you hated Professor Layton and had a mini heart attack when it was coming up at no. 2, but then nope - Bill Hawks. YES. Although I still haven't played The Lost Future/Unwound Future, I hate Bill Hawks already. Dat eejit..
You know, once Kristoph Gavin's plan to get back at Zak was exposed, Klavier Gavin should have been disbarred for being an accomplice in that plan. Also, Phoenix should have sued Kristoph and Klavier for his false disbarment and forced them to pay any and all fees related to retaking the bar exam.
You are missing something here. You see, Klavier never knew about all of this. So he isn't guilty of anything. He was just an innocent prosecutor who was tricked by his brother. Also, Klavier is my second favorite prosecutor ever, with Edgeworth being first and Godot my third favorite.
Giuseppe Termini True, but he should have known. Klavier should know his own brother better than anyone, except for their parents, so he should have been able to tell that Kristoph was up to something.
Ace Attorney is probably my second favourite game series (if not first) of all time. And I've never really been interested in tje Professor Layton games. I have yet to play the crossover (which I will play) but I want to know if it is worth getting the standalone Prof. Layton games.
Oh trust me, it's sooo worth it! But if you're still unsure due to the puzzles in the games, I'd suggest checking out a walkthrough here on TH-cam. I'd also recommend starting with "Professor Layton and the Curious Village", the first game in the series. While it has a couple of flaws, the series only gets better from there. :)
ThePhrozenShadow I feel really sorry for Simone Keys. Blaise, the double and the jail warden ruined his life, and all he did was to get revenge on them, by revealing their true nature, and making them kill what they thought was the past comig back to haunt them. In a way, simone really didn't deserve life in prison, but what can I say.
Porky Minch is indeed a sinister and horrible person, but I find him really overhated. He is supposed to symbolize the horrible parts of humanity and what is considered entertainment. The chimeras he created was made because he thinks that the animals are boring and so fuses animals to seem more entertaining. He finds the absolutely safe capsule and instead of listening to Dr. Andonuts that he will never move again and goes inside the capsule for safety. I personally like Porky as a form of what people sacrifice and do for safety and entertainment
I would have put Xemnas (Kingdom Hearts series) on this, mainly because of not only his despicable actions and the way he devastates lives, but because he just gets to be more of a D-Bag with each game featuring him.
Hey Green, you outta do a remake of this list. I mean you've played more games and such so why not eh? I'm sure the fans and I would love to see you rage at more characters that piss you off.
Kristoph Gavin isn't that hateable. Yes, he's a bastard, but he's a glorious one at that. It just seems that by your logic of Kristoph Gavin, characters like Manfred von Karma, Dahlia Hawthorne, Damon Gant, and worse villains in the series you should hate more. Seriously, Dahlia Hawthorne did way worse. She tried to killed Phoenix, she killed her former boyfriend Doug Swallow, her half-sister Valerie, and Terry Fawles pretty much, and she ruined many lives. The previously mentioned Terry Fawles, Mia Fey, Phoenix Wright again, and Diego Armando. Even after her death, she still managed to do some pretty terrible deeds. She came up with a plan to kill Maya Fey and almost succeeded at it. And what did Kristoph Gavin do? He killed two people, almost killed another and disbarred Phoenix. That's it. So... who's the real worse villain?
randezzel27 He did warn that this was his opinion...and that though he despised Daliha, it was more or so the fact that she was a hateable character and his explanation in my perspective is sound. We may or may not agree with his choice but they're still his none the less. And that should be respected.
Pride...some people may agree with you Filip, however look around you, how many people do you see committing crimes and murders for things like jealousy, hatred, revenge...the mind is a dangerous thing when dark thoughts appear. It's not at all surprising that Kristoph had such a reason, and the scariest part is, is the fact that he almost got away with everything. He got away for framing Wright for having false evidence for seven years...and he almost got away with 2 murders and 1 attempt at murder
The real worse villain? Duh. Blaise Debeste. He knew about the missing body of the IS-7 Incident but he never told Manfred basically forcing Manfred to forge an autopsy report and Blaise penalized Manfred starting te entire thing
Hey, if someone identifies as a girl, you call and address them as you would a girl. Don't call them it (although in birdo's case I don't even know I don't know what the fuck) because that is downright disrespectful.
Qbed Music It's more Birdo just kinda being a confusing animal. Also, this was made in 2012. times were different. I still think he should've used "They" (since Birdo is gender neutral) but i'm pretty sure he isn't transphobic (At least now, in 2018)
#7: She moves more smoothly (or at least it seems) than everybody else and the resolution as shown to the plot was SO cliched! #5: She/he/it, say that really fast if you truly hate Birdo.
As much as I also hate #1 on this list, there's a certain other character in the franchise who takes the cake...a certain redhead with a stupid frilly umbrella
the only mario character i hate is bowser... BOOOOOOOHHHHHHH!!!!!, hold it, hold it, i'm not done, bowser is awesome in every awesome mario game, what i mean is that i hate bowser.... in mario party
hey with #1 did ya hear a new game is coming its a dual role in america the girl from the most recent title (duel destinies i think) teams up with Apollo to do cases. while Phoenix is in a foreign country with SURPRISE MAYA is back in action! capcom you just delivered nostalgia bomb
There is a character I hate from a game that you, and most people, probably haven't heard of: The Last Story (I find it a Wii gem). That character is Jirall. Spoiler Alert FYI. He is a prick, he's self-absorbed, he thinks of no one but himself, he wants to marry Calista only to gain power and he gets Zael and the others thrown into jail not once, but twice. The only redeeming factor this guy has, and the only thing keeping from the top of my list is the epic fight with him.
Jirall is along Mirania my favourite character of The Last Story. I just love his envy and madness. Also even if he was a bitch in the first half of the game. He didn't deserve to die like that. It was a great battle though with an awesome theme. _Invitation to MADNESS FTW!!_
I solely approve #2 AND #1 because when I finished both those games I wanted to jump in the game and strangle them In fact this video made me hate them even more for more details were added to my hate list
I know! She's definitely one of those characters who gets a lot of undeserved hate. From a series that spawned Seymour and Bartantelous (can't rememebr how to spell it right now), people have a problem with Vanille?! I really like her not just for her cuteness, but her personality and usefulness in battle. Hmm, I'm doing countdown lists in my deviantArt journals, I wonder if I oughta do a Top 10 Underrated Characters list...
Eamonn Deane Good question: I changed the title to Top 10 Underappreciated Characters mainly cuz "underrated" is a hard thing to measure. Though if I did add a KH character to the list, I'd have to go with Kairi. Why? Well frankly, she's another character that I feel gets undeserved hate for things that she really can't help. 1. She's the token love interest for the main character Sora, so she's already a big target for any SoraXRiku shippers. (Can't stand that shipping, to be honest; I consider Sora and Riku to be a bromance and nothing more) 2. Some people consider her a bitch because she occasionally teases the boys. Um, excuse me? Her closest friends are two boys who tease each other all the time and no one makes a big deal about that, so you gotta expect that she'd act in a similar manner around them. She's also caring and kind towards others, but can be determined and courageous when someone she cares about is in danger, as she always puts herself in harm's way to help Sora when he's in trouble despite the dangers. Gotta give her credit for that, at least! Bitch, my ass... 3. She's a damsel in distress in earlier games, in particular the first game. Okay fine, she didn't do a very good job at getting away from Axel in KH2, but it's kinda hard to try escaping the bad guys when your heart is removed like hers was in the first game. 4. While she can wield a Keyblade as shown in the second game, her fighting ability is not nearly as good as Sora and Riku. Well really, what did people expect? Unlike the boys, Kairi wasn't trained in combat, so of course she wouldn't be able to fight very well! At least she was able to take down a few enemies in the game, and she's currently undergoing training with Yen Sid, so we should see her combat ability get better later. 5. She's one of the Seven Princesses of Heart, aka a being with a completely pure heart, and she can wield a Keyblade, so some see her as a Mary Sue character. I respectfully disagree; if that were the case, then she would be the main character and would've mastered the Keyblade in a short amount of time, not to mention we still don't know exactly what a Princess of Heart's power is capable of. Yes she ended up on a world other than her own at a young age, but still nothing majorly tragic that we know of has happened to her yet. Does she have one or two qualities of a Mary Sue character? Sure, but in my mind, she'd need 4 or more of those qualities to actually be considered a Mary Sue. Man, I rambled on about that one... ^^;
vanille is one of the only characters I liked from 13 her as well as snow and chaz she was my go to healer and she was really kind and she was way more likeable then lightning imo
I'm getting annoyed by how many top 10s I see that have the duck hunt dog and Jasper bat jr on them. I mean I understand that they are annoying and should be hated but come on! Have a little diversity! I watch different top 10s so I can see different oppinions!
The way I see it, there are some characters out there that a lot of people seem to hate. If GS or any other countdown artist feels that way, then by all means they should have a right to put them on a list of their most hated characters! Leaving them off the list simply for variety's sake just seems dishonest to me. (And besides, I hate Jasper Bat Jr., Bill Hawkes AND Kristoph Gavin, too. Oh yeah, and Count Vulgar.)
Well they can't help it. If they hate them so much then it's their right (and obligation) to talk about them, no matter how many people have said it before. I mean, what, are they supposed to lie about their opinion?
I agree, As much as I hate Jasper, he is actually a great final boss compared to Lucien from Fable 2. And I honestly don't hate Duck Hunt Dog or Birdo. I would have put Mumkhar from Xenoblade Chronicles or Izuka from Fire Emblem Radiant Dawn on the list.
This video may be over a decade old, but your number 1 pick aged like fine wine. I recently got into Ace Attorney, which I find very addictive and surprisingly deep, but there are 3 characters there that I absolutely despise. Manfred Von Karma, Morgan Fey, and Kristoph Gavin. Dahlia Hawthorne came close, but she’s more of a love-to-hate kind of character, much like Redd White, Damon Gant, Matt Engarde, and Shelly De Killer.
Actually it depends on the individual, but I've never met a trans person who liked to be called 'it', some of them like to go by 'she', some by 'he', some by 'they' and there are more pronouns. 'It' is what you call a thing, to refer to a person as 'it' is really quite ignorant and belittling.
Yeah, this is something that annoys me to no end too. It also pisses me off too when people continue referring to a trans person (please pardon me if I got that term wrong) as their physical gender. Rather then what they identify as. And I sadly see this... A lot. And it irks me every single time.
In England we had a show called 'My Transexual Summer' that was a documentary about a group of trans teens that got lots of views and was said to be really changing the public's opinion... then every other show decided to make every transphobic joke they could that in one fell swoop undid everything the show had done. I'd just like once in my life to hear the word 'Thailand' and not have to roll my eyes knowing exactly what someone is about to say.
For number 1, it is said when you start laughing like that, you have gone completely insane. So Kristoph didn't have to cry or get angry. His mind snapped, from being revealed and brought down, and he just lost his mind. So ya, he got his. Still love this list X3
Okay, so I admit I've never played Professor Layton and the Unwound Future, but I just thought of a problem with Clive (please tell me if I'm missing somethingg): Clive's parents were killed in the time machine accident within Unwound Future, but isn't Luke's father alive during Last Specter? If Clive is a future Luke and I haven't missed something, there's a problem here.
If you think about it, Phoenix and co. never truly "beat" Kristoph. They were unable to best his intellect so they relied on the jury system. Such a good villian.
I think this is your best countdown green, very well written. It actually makes me want to get Unwound Future and Apollo Justice (that would make them the first games of the their series I play if I get them)
I LIKE BIG THE CAT! IN FACT, BIG IS IN MY TOP TEN CHARACTERS! Also what he means by unimportant is that you could just replace her with a stick or something.
Here are some of my most hated characters #6 Amy, clingy fangirl to Sonic and won't leave him alone. #5 Mengsk, StarCraft, leaving one of own subordinates to die only for her to be working with the Zerg. #4 Link, inconsistent backstory, no dialogue and no motivation for going on his adventures #3 Kefka, Joker rip-off and unoriginal motivation. #2 the Sea Salt Trio, ugh, just, why? Why do they have to be brought back? Roxas, cookie cutter angsty Shadow the Hedgehog character Axel, lied to Roxas about Xion and wasted potential on being a cool double agent Xion, the worst of them. Unneeded, no individuality, and solely relying on death #1 Zelos, womanizing, lazy, and backstabber
To be honest, I hate Bill Hawks more than Kristophe, what's annoying is how Kristophe ends up getting arrested while Hawks get's no punishment, he gets away freely without any problems, I hate him so much.
"If theres one type of person i can't stand, its the type of people who won't admit to his/her own mistakes."
Me: So, basically half of my school.
or hald the internet
Or my sister. :P
Me: Some of the people at my school (Kaimes if your wondering.) are dicks!
I know a lot of people who are like that
10. Eh, she's more interesting than Kitana for me.
9. never played it
8. Count Bastard, yeah, i hete him too
7, so sheis the reason 06 gets a lot of hate? besides Silver i mean
6. old one
5. at least he's not a sore loser, like mario.
4. doesn't surprise me
3. Him again? if Travis didn't kill his father to begin with he wouldn't have to face him
2. That bastard!
1. You don't mess with Phoenix Wright
To think that the entire plot of No More Heroes 2 happened because of a damn sidequest. And Travis also murdered his 2 brothers. Not just the father.
8. VEGER, IT'S VEGER YOU IDIOT!!!
Thank goodness you don't hate Apollo because I know a lot of the fandom hates him for some reason but I really like his character and sympathize for him. And yeah I agree with a lot of these, especially Bill Hawks and Kristoph Gavin.
People hate Apollo? Why he's such a cool dude and his interactions with people are hilarious
@@medusathedecepticon I guess it was because they felt like he was replacing Phoenix. Frankly, I think it's dumb reason to hate on Apollo since he's a great character who stands on his own merit, and Phoenix isn't going anywhere. He returned in the next game and by the time of the last case in the 6th game, they stood together not as mentor and apprentice, but equals.
Bill is a jerk 10:10
OH MY GOD WILL BILL HAWKS JUST DIE ALREADY!!! All through the game I kept yelling at him (at appearances) and at the ending I lost it! Clive never got his full 'justice' because Bill never paid for it!!!
-Sorry for rant-
Mr. Green Scorpion, thank you. Thanks to you and this video a few years back, I started getting into both the Professor Layton and Ace Attorney series. I hadn't gotten into them before because I thought I might not get into them. After this, I thought that I should try to give them a chance. And so I did. What I got was the BEST VIDEO GAME EXPERIENCE IN MY LIFE! I now know what a fool I was and with PLvsAA around the corner I can say that I look forward to them with gusto. Thank you for opening my eyes to what I was missing.
That was... elaborate.
Honestly, Bill Hawks is probably one of the few people who wouldn't make a better president than Trump.
You mean joe biden
@@eletriky6715Nah definitely Trump
Found a libtard
You see, this is why I love your videos Oscar. Your reasoning, writing, choices, and best of all, your acting make me feel sympathy, love, or in this case, hatred for characters and games. You are a amazing TH-camr.
Seems like you're a big fan of the Ace Attorney series. Can you do a list of the top 10 Ace Attorney Breakdowns please?
I'd switch Kristoph and Bill around, but only because I think that Kristoph is a good antagonist. I think that Bill is so much worse than Kristoph, I can actually feel the anger in my stomach at him
I couldn't contain my laughter when Exdeath showed up on screen. For all of the reasons you mentioned, I floppin' love him. He's so cool. I feel the same way for Albert Wesker. They're both so generic and hilarious, but badass at the same time. I love 'em.
You are correct about Birdo. Birdo was originally introduced in the early Mario games as a boy that dresses as a girl... and he used the name Katherine in the Japanese version. He was changed to the female Birdo in the US version. Later the Japanese version became female. She is still Katherine in the Japanese and Birdo in the US/English version.
It’s just a transgender character
UGH THANK YOU FOR INCLUDING BILL HAWKS I HAAAAAATED HIM SO MUCH!!!
Personally, I hate Elise for her relationship with Sonic, as, I apologise beforehand, is bizarre to me, she gets kidnapped SIX times in one game and she comes across as heartless as she never cried for anyone else except for Sonic, a person she knew for less than a day and how she said "I don't care what happens to the world" because she's saying she wouldn't care what would happen to her subjects, who may die, because she wouldn't remember Sonic who, again, she barely knew, how is she better?
Kristoph's laughing was insane laughing over how he got exposed & outsmarted.
I can’t wait to see this video get remade. This was the first Greenscorpion video I ever watched and I can’t wait to see where your thoughts have changed over the years.
That Birdo section aged well.
Patrokolos (Soul Calibur V)
Pokey Munch (Earthbound)
Ikutsuki (Persona 3)
Ghetsis (Pokémon: Black & White)
Severa (Fire Emblem: Awakening)
Aura Blackquill (Phoenix Wright: Dual Destinies)
Rain (Mortal Kombat)
Snow (Final Fantasy VIII)
Adam Malkovich (Metroid: Other M)
Flame Hyenard (Megaman X 7)
Not in any order.
+yusifudo46 Snow's from Final Fantasy XIII, not VIII
David Timmer My bad. I meant to type in X and not V.
I actually like Aura.
Filip Melzacki That's fine, but I think she's an abysmal character in both character and writing, just by concept alone, and her execution was laughably flawed.
I like how you called porky munch instead of porky minch
There was also the fact that her relationship with Sonic was weird, which makes the kiss worse and at times she could come across as heartless, like how she never cried up until Sonic died, and never cried at her father's death, but at someone she barely knew or how she said she doesn't care what would happen, because she wouldn't meet Sonic, again, someone she barely knew.
6:30 “Eh, I’m not 100% on this but I think that thing may have been a dude a one point.”
I honestly believe Sonic 06's retgone was just a preventative measure in case the game sucked so hard.
about "Apollo Justice: Ace Attorney" being underrated, I'm with you there
The Birdo segment doesn't age well
I think the laugh that #1 let loose was his last bits of sanity slipping away from him, he was just defeated by the very person he trained and the worlds greatest lawyer...
Consider this: After the events of Unwound Future, Dimitri, even though he would close the book on the time machine forever, decided to still make another machine to save Claire. He bails Clive out of jail, and together the two successfully make a new time machine. They go back in time before the incident, and try to stop Bill from meeting with the funder. They realize that the funder is actually a person who subsequently had a grudge against Layton, who wants to take revenge on Layton for defeating him by killing Claire. The combined efforts of Clive and Dimitri defeat him. Afterwards, the original time machine is fixed, it becomes a success, and Clive begins to work with Layton, who gets married to Claire. Also, Hawks becomes Prime Minister, but he plays it fairly.
***** don't know
This video deserves a revamp. Would be nice to see Oscar tackle 'Top 10 characters meant to be hated' (things that hit on the spot by the devs. Trope: Hate Sink.), 'Top 10 hated characters that wasn't meant to be hated.' (Trope: The Scrappy, Jerks Are Worse Than Villains, Unintentionally Unsympathetic), what with the maturity and improvement of acting Oscar has accumulated so far.
6:35 Well that aged like fine yogurt.
I only checked this out because I recognized the Layton screenshot in the thumbnail. I couldn't tell what it was. Just that it looked like it was from a Layton game. And I couldn't think of anyone who was worthy of hate in these games.
Then you got to the Layton entry, and I was like, "Oh, yeah, THAT asshole." In retrospect, the only reason he didn't come to mind is that I haven't played Unwound Future recently.
I also agree not only with #6, but with how you presented it. Really doesn't need any words, does it?
As for your #1, Kristoph's a love-to-hate-him character to me. I always love those manipulative villains.
(And to be fair, Zak Gramarye is kind of a jerk that brought some of it on himself.)
Wow. That birdo bit aged horribly
Maaan, these oldschool top tens have a charm to them that I really miss
13:08 what did you call elise? i must've went back and tried to listen to what you say at least 10 times and i have no clue what you said :( it sounded like you said ''grating xufiliac'' but i have no clue who that is or what that is, and when i tried googling i got nothing :(
+Leanne Of Legends I said Grating Zoophiliac. Zoophilia is physical attractiveness to animals.
The Green Scorpion ohh!! that makes sense, ty! :D
I think zoophilic means someone who is into beastiality... not sure if I spelled that correctly
If only this list would've been remade. Kristoph Gavin would be replaced by Blaise Debeste from AAI2, that sick fuck was responsible for every single bad thing in the first three games
I'm glad that a Phoenix Wright character was on the list because there are so many people to hate in that franchise! In fact, I could make a whole top 10 list of characters I hate just from PW games!
I don't know if you've played Dual Destinies since making this list, but if you have....
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You probably have even MORE of a reason for hating Kristoph Gavin, since his actions were partly responsible for the rise of the "dark age of the law", where the trust between the public and the law crumbled and attorneys and prosecutors focused more on winning, with forged evidence left, right and centre. Granted he wasn't the only person responsible, but even so, he had a part in doing so.
I saw this video and I recognized a scene from the Professor Layton series, I was thinking "You get a problem with Layton bruh?!". I thought you hated Professor Layton and had a mini heart attack when it was coming up at no. 2, but then nope - Bill Hawks. YES. Although I still haven't played The Lost Future/Unwound Future, I hate Bill Hawks already. Dat eejit..
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Hawks
OH MY GOD, THERE IS A AN ACTUAL POLITICIAN NAMED BILL HAWKS!
I love how everyone is so freaked out by the beastiality in Sonic 06, that they don't even notice the necrophilia O_o
That's right. Sonic was dead.
I mean, he’s clearly a consenting hedgehog, but that girl was way out of his league
sega tries to add final fantasy like character to sonic. failed.
You know, once Kristoph Gavin's plan to get back at Zak was exposed, Klavier Gavin should have been disbarred for being an accomplice in that plan. Also, Phoenix should have sued Kristoph and Klavier for his false disbarment and forced them to pay any and all fees related to retaking the bar exam.
You are missing something here. You see, Klavier never knew about all of this. So he isn't guilty of anything. He was just an innocent prosecutor who was tricked by his brother. Also, Klavier is my second favorite prosecutor ever, with Edgeworth being first and Godot my third favorite.
Giuseppe Termini True, but he should have known. Klavier should know his own brother better than anyone, except for their parents, so he should have been able to tell that Kristoph was up to something.
HellFire Agni Kristoph Gavin.
@@freezycastform99 exactly. Klavier got played too.
I love people who bring up Jak and Daxter. that game was my childhood and still holds up when I replay it today.
Seeing a part of Grim Fandango in there absolutely made my day. :)
Ace Attorney is probably my second favourite game series (if not first) of all time. And I've never really been interested in tje Professor Layton games. I have yet to play the crossover (which I will play) but I want to know if it is worth getting the standalone Prof. Layton games.
Oh trust me, it's sooo worth it! But if you're still unsure due to the puzzles in the games, I'd suggest checking out a walkthrough here on TH-cam. I'd also recommend starting with "Professor Layton and the Curious Village", the first game in the series. While it has a couple of flaws, the series only gets better from there. :)
Elise Arainai Cheers. I'll check that out.
im surprised Relius Clover isn't on this list.
I believe quarter guy put it best HE TURNED HIS WIFE AND DAUGHTER INTO MACHINES
Haha, why am I expecting Ashley Graham from RE4 to make a cameo here? XD
BRUHcolli me too XD
i find it funny that you had no words at all for the dog in Duck Hunt
Man, Toad is a freaking monster. He is THE bane of my existence, along with Amy Rose.
Good list, surprising amount of dislikes that I don't understand
Zvarri Velociraptor Current attitudes about transgendered people + his comments about Birdo I think.
@@darthlazurus4382 How petty.
Just finished AAI2, now I see a villain far more vile than Kristoph: Blaise Debeste.
I do know 1 villain that's on the Love To Hate category. Gary Smith from Bully.
ThePhrozenShadow I feel really sorry for Simone Keys. Blaise, the double and the jail warden ruined his life, and all he did was to get revenge on them, by revealing their true nature, and making them kill what they thought was the past comig back to haunt them. In a way, simone really didn't deserve life in prison, but what can I say.
YES MORE BLAISE HATERS
He was a great villain(he started the entire series) but DAMN IS HE EVIL
why because hes a murder
Big the cat is a dumb oaf but he's not a hate-worthy character. His LEVELS are.
yeah he may be dumb but big is fucking cute and fluffy
I suppose
TakTheFox im a cat lover so yeah
As am I. My favorite are Snow Leopards. Yours?
mine is the white tiger
3:48 He says that the joke is overplayed, but he puts himself in the bandwagon as well.
Don't mind me Just watching the first video that got me in to watching countdowns
Porky Minch is indeed a sinister and horrible person, but I find him really overhated. He is supposed to symbolize the horrible parts of humanity and what is considered entertainment. The chimeras he created was made because he thinks that the animals are boring and so fuses animals to seem more entertaining. He finds the absolutely safe capsule and instead of listening to Dr. Andonuts that he will never move again and goes inside the capsule for safety. I personally like Porky as a form of what people sacrifice and do for safety and entertainment
Watching him getting beaten by the Draco was also really satisfying
I love the accordion music in #2 :)
I think Bill Hawks is hated more than Kristoph. Maybe only I think so.
I would have put Xemnas (Kingdom Hearts series) on this, mainly because of not only his despicable actions and the way he devastates lives, but because he just gets to be more of a D-Bag with each game featuring him.
Hey Green, you outta do a remake of this list. I mean you've played more games and such so why not eh? I'm sure the fans and I would love to see you rage at more characters that piss you off.
Kristoph Gavin isn't that hateable. Yes, he's a bastard, but he's a glorious one at that. It just seems that by your logic of Kristoph Gavin, characters like Manfred von Karma, Dahlia Hawthorne, Damon Gant, and worse villains in the series you should hate more. Seriously, Dahlia Hawthorne did way worse. She tried to killed Phoenix, she killed her former boyfriend Doug Swallow, her half-sister Valerie, and Terry Fawles pretty much, and she ruined many lives. The previously mentioned Terry Fawles, Mia Fey, Phoenix Wright again, and Diego Armando. Even after her death, she still managed to do some pretty terrible deeds. She came up with a plan to kill Maya Fey and almost succeeded at it. And what did Kristoph Gavin do? He killed two people, almost killed another and disbarred Phoenix. That's it. So... who's the real worse villain?
randezzel27 He did warn that this was his opinion...and that though he despised Daliha, it was more or so the fact that she was a hateable character and his explanation in my perspective is sound.
We may or may not agree with his choice but they're still his none the less. And that should be respected.
Well, Kristoph had a really dumb reason.
Pride...some people may agree with you Filip, however look around you, how many people do you see committing crimes and murders for things like jealousy, hatred, revenge...the mind is a dangerous thing when dark thoughts appear.
It's not at all surprising that Kristoph had such a reason, and the scariest part is, is the fact that he almost got away with everything. He got away for framing Wright for having false evidence for seven years...and he almost got away with 2 murders and 1 attempt at murder
Well, there's clear he was a psychopath, so actually it's not that surprising.
I still hate Alicia from Live A Live more.
The real worse villain? Duh. Blaise Debeste. He knew about the missing body of the IS-7 Incident but he never told Manfred basically forcing Manfred to forge an autopsy report and Blaise penalized Manfred starting te entire thing
I honestly skipped the entire professor Layton part because I thought I'd either get offended (because I LOVE the series) or get spoilers 😂
dont worry, the one on the list is a truly unlikable character
Bubble1690 _ Emmys voice in the uk version pisses me off
Hey, if someone identifies as a girl, you call and address them as you would a girl. Don't call them it (although in birdo's case I don't even know I don't know what the fuck) because that is downright disrespectful.
Qbed Music It's more Birdo just kinda being a confusing animal. Also, this was made in 2012. times were different. I still think he should've used "They" (since Birdo is gender neutral) but i'm pretty sure he isn't transphobic (At least now, in 2018)
#7: She moves more smoothly (or at least it seems) than everybody else and the resolution as shown to the plot was SO cliched!
#5: She/he/it, say that really fast if you truly hate Birdo.
the ending to unwound/lost future was so sad :(
As much as I also hate #1 on this list, there's a certain other character in the franchise who takes the cake...a certain redhead with a stupid frilly umbrella
Fuck that bitch
#2, this is why I try to vote 3rd party.
Same for Quarter Guy.
the only mario character i hate is bowser... BOOOOOOOHHHHHHH!!!!!, hold it, hold it, i'm not done, bowser is awesome in every awesome mario game, what i mean is that i hate bowser.... in mario party
hey with #1 did ya hear a new game is coming its a dual role in america the girl from the most recent title (duel destinies i think) teams up with Apollo to do cases. while Phoenix is in a foreign country with SURPRISE MAYA is back in action! capcom you just delivered nostalgia bomb
She's called Athena Cykes
thank you Miles.
Looking back on this video, are you proud of it?
Donnimation You're talking about Birdo, aren't you? Fucking snowflake
There is a character I hate from a game that you, and most people, probably haven't heard of: The Last Story (I find it a Wii gem). That character is Jirall. Spoiler Alert FYI. He is a prick, he's self-absorbed, he thinks of no one but himself, he wants to marry Calista only to gain power and he gets Zael and the others thrown into jail not once, but twice. The only redeeming factor this guy has, and the only thing keeping from the top of my list is the epic fight with him.
Ugh, I hated him too! Although I'm glad to see I'm not the only one who likes that game :)
I like your profile pic.
ABSOLUTELY, JIRALL WAS ONE OF THE WORST!!!
Duncan Rose Thanx, I made it myself to establish an identity for myself as a countdown artist. Check me out.
Jirall is along Mirania my favourite character of The Last Story. I just love his envy and madness. Also even if he was a bitch in the first half of the game. He didn't deserve to die like that. It was a great battle though with an awesome theme. _Invitation to MADNESS FTW!!_
I solely approve #2 AND #1 because when I finished both those games I wanted to jump in the game and strangle them
In fact this video made me hate them even more for more details were added to my hate list
You know, I really don't see why people hate Vanille. She's adorable, and her skills are formidable.
I know! She's definitely one of those characters who gets a lot of undeserved hate. From a series that spawned Seymour and Bartantelous (can't rememebr how to spell it right now), people have a problem with Vanille?! I really like her not just for her cuteness, but her personality and usefulness in battle.
Hmm, I'm doing countdown lists in my deviantArt journals, I wonder if I oughta do a Top 10 Underrated Characters list...
Eamonn Deane Good question: I changed the title to Top 10 Underappreciated Characters mainly cuz "underrated" is a hard thing to measure. Though if I did add a KH character to the list, I'd have to go with Kairi. Why? Well frankly, she's another character that I feel gets undeserved hate for things that she really can't help.
1. She's the token love interest for the main character Sora, so she's already a big target for any SoraXRiku shippers. (Can't stand that shipping, to be honest; I consider Sora and Riku to be a bromance and nothing more)
2. Some people consider her a bitch because she occasionally teases the boys. Um, excuse me? Her closest friends are two boys who tease each other all the time and no one makes a big deal about that, so you gotta expect that she'd act in a similar manner around them. She's also caring and kind towards others, but can be determined and courageous when someone she cares about is in danger, as she always puts herself in harm's way to help Sora when he's in trouble despite the dangers. Gotta give her credit for that, at least! Bitch, my ass...
3. She's a damsel in distress in earlier games, in particular the first game. Okay fine, she didn't do a very good job at getting away from Axel in KH2, but it's kinda hard to try escaping the bad guys when your heart is removed like hers was in the first game.
4. While she can wield a Keyblade as shown in the second game, her fighting ability is not nearly as good as Sora and Riku. Well really, what did people expect? Unlike the boys, Kairi wasn't trained in combat, so of course she wouldn't be able to fight very well! At least she was able to take down a few enemies in the game, and she's currently undergoing training with Yen Sid, so we should see her combat ability get better later.
5. She's one of the Seven Princesses of Heart, aka a being with a completely pure heart, and she can wield a Keyblade, so some see her as a Mary Sue character. I respectfully disagree; if that were the case, then she would be the main character and would've mastered the Keyblade in a short amount of time, not to mention we still don't know exactly what a Princess of Heart's power is capable of. Yes she ended up on a world other than her own at a young age, but still nothing majorly tragic that we know of has happened to her yet. Does she have one or two qualities of a Mary Sue character? Sure, but in my mind, she'd need 4 or more of those qualities to actually be considered a Mary Sue.
Man, I rambled on about that one... ^^;
vanille is one of the only characters I liked from 13 her as well as snow and chaz she was my go to healer and she was really kind and she was way more likeable then lightning imo
Not liking someone is normal. It may annoy you but it's never to a serious degree.
To hate someone, it needs to be personal.
Nice opening in the video, man! I love the Black Knight's theme!
I'm getting annoyed by how many top 10s I see that have the duck hunt dog and Jasper bat jr on them. I mean I understand that they are annoying and should be hated but come on! Have a little diversity! I watch different top 10s so I can see different oppinions!
William Young You're just proving my point you know. . .
The way I see it, there are some characters out there that a lot of people seem to hate. If GS or any other countdown artist feels that way, then by all means they should have a right to put them on a list of their most hated characters! Leaving them off the list simply for variety's sake just seems dishonest to me. (And besides, I hate Jasper Bat Jr., Bill Hawkes AND Kristoph Gavin, too. Oh yeah, and Count Vulgar.)
Well they can't help it. If they hate them so much then it's their right (and obligation) to talk about them, no matter how many people have said it before. I mean, what, are they supposed to lie about their opinion?
I agree, As much as I hate Jasper, he is actually a great final boss compared to Lucien from Fable 2. And I honestly don't hate Duck Hunt Dog or Birdo. I would have put Mumkhar from Xenoblade Chronicles or Izuka from Fire Emblem Radiant Dawn on the list.
Elise saved Sonic life. That says important to me.
I'm gonna be honest here
*FLAME SHIELD*
I hate Senator Steven Armstrong
Nikki Korbens Can I ask why? If it isn't too much trouble.
Sorry this may seem stupid but I don't wanna talk about him. Memories are too painful
Nikki Korbens Let me guess, died a lot int he boss battle(specifically when he throws the metal blocks)
To think, this video introduced me to the Green Scorpion. Good times, good times....
This video may be over a decade old, but your number 1 pick aged like fine wine.
I recently got into Ace Attorney, which I find very addictive and surprisingly deep, but there are 3 characters there that I absolutely despise. Manfred Von Karma, Morgan Fey, and Kristoph Gavin.
Dahlia Hawthorne came close, but she’s more of a love-to-hate kind of character, much like Redd White, Damon Gant, Matt Engarde, and Shelly De Killer.
You hate Birdo?!?!?!?!?!?! WELCOME TO MY WORLD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And Big the Cat has no reason to exist whatsoever!! You could actually play as him a few times and he is a million times more annoying than Elise!!
+Jake Voronkov Well, I am glad that you hate Big the Cat as much as I hated him.
Is it really still funny to call trans characters 'it'? You made this in 2012, grow up.
well they are not a he nor a she, they are a it. its not really a joke but the best way for people to understand what you mean. (my opinion)
Actually it depends on the individual, but I've never met a trans person who liked to be called 'it', some of them like to go by 'she', some by 'he', some by 'they' and there are more pronouns. 'It' is what you call a thing, to refer to a person as 'it' is really quite ignorant and belittling.
Yeah, this is something that annoys me to no end too.
It also pisses me off too when people continue referring to a trans person (please pardon me if I got that term wrong) as their physical gender. Rather then what they identify as.
And I sadly see this... A lot. And it irks me every single time.
In England we had a show called 'My Transexual Summer' that was a documentary about a group of trans teens that got lots of views and was said to be really changing the public's opinion... then every other show decided to make every transphobic joke they could that in one fell swoop undid everything the show had done.
I'd just like once in my life to hear the word 'Thailand' and not have to roll my eyes knowing exactly what someone is about to say.
misstrussteLgbTq Birdo isn't even a person or real ahahaha calm down
2:26 That's what I like about Mileena she's deceiving.
For number 1, it is said when you start laughing like that, you have gone completely insane. So Kristoph didn't have to cry or get angry. His mind snapped, from being revealed and brought down, and he just lost his mind. So ya, he got his.
Still love this list X3
Weird...Everyone I know love Mileena. You have bad taste dude....Really
Same here. I don't understand how she can be on any worst of list.
Did you play Earthbound? Because if you did, you could've talked about his actions in Earthbound since almost everyone ignores it.
Okay, so I admit I've never played Professor Layton and the Unwound Future, but I just thought of a problem with Clive (please tell me if I'm missing somethingg):
Clive's parents were killed in the time machine accident within Unwound Future, but isn't Luke's father alive during Last Specter? If Clive is a future Luke and I haven't missed something, there's a problem here.
+Omniplayer They aren't the same character. Clive is in impersonator.
+VladNorris Oh, OK.
If you think about it, Phoenix and co. never truly "beat" Kristoph. They were unable to best his intellect so they relied on the jury system. Such a good villian.
I think this is your best countdown green, very well written. It actually makes me want to get Unwound Future and Apollo Justice (that would make them the first games of the their series I play if I get them)
what music did you use in the #1 segment?
I honestly think this list should be remade. Also, you should make a list on your favorite characters.
I LIKE BIG THE CAT! IN FACT, BIG IS IN MY TOP TEN CHARACTERS!
Also what he means by unimportant is that you could just replace her with a stick or something.
It's been 7 years since you did this video. Any chance that any of your opinions have changed, or have found any new characters you hate?
Yeah. I just stumbled on this countdown. I wonder if he'll do an updated version of it or if he still hate these characters to this day.
OMG I'm your biggest fan I love your walktroughs yo
What if some one gave you 1 million dollars to play as Birdo?
For those of you who say aquatic base is hard, if you can get 12,000 rings before going into it, you can buy the moon jump gem to make the level easy
for the duck hunt section, I thought you were going to call revolver ocelot to take him out.
Here are some of my most hated characters
#6 Amy, clingy fangirl to Sonic and won't leave him alone.
#5 Mengsk, StarCraft, leaving one of own subordinates to die only for her to be working with the Zerg.
#4 Link, inconsistent backstory, no dialogue and no motivation for going on his adventures
#3 Kefka, Joker rip-off and unoriginal motivation.
#2 the Sea Salt Trio, ugh, just, why? Why do they have to be brought back? Roxas, cookie cutter angsty Shadow the Hedgehog character
Axel, lied to Roxas about Xion and wasted potential on being a cool double agent
Xion, the worst of them. Unneeded, no individuality, and solely relying on death
#1 Zelos, womanizing, lazy, and backstabber
Yeah, the twist is that she dies but her spirit comes back to haunt him.
To be honest, I hate Bill Hawks more than Kristophe, what's annoying is how Kristophe ends up getting arrested while Hawks get's no punishment, he gets away freely without any problems, I hate him so much.
I actually read on TV-Tropes that it's implied that inspector Chelmey arrests Bill Hawks later on; Chelmey says: "I still have work to do".
thank God that in phoenix wright duel attoneys he gets his badge back
You and the Keyblade Soul Lord have some serious animosity towards Kristoph. Not that he doesn’t deserve it.
The black Psyche-Locks on Kristoph makes him even more disturbing.